Best video yet of the Canadian plane crash this morning. From the cockpit of another plane, which is somewhat unusual but there was a howling wind and freezing conditions.
Looks like they hit an air pocket at the worst possible time, and it smacked into the ground and rolled over.
The more videos watched of this one, the more utterly astonishing it is that everyone of 80 PoB got out. That could very, very, easily have been 80 fatalities.
Oh, thanks. Very impressive result.
BTW what's an 'air pocket' in modern terms? Sounds very Biggles era ...
The “air pocket” is an area of relatively less dense air, caused by air masses hitting each other and causing the air to move in different directions. Planes don’t fly as well in this less dense air, as they do in more dense air, hence they fall down in the air.
If your plane is in turbulence, you’re actually experiencing air of different densities or wind directions, which causes the plane appear to bounce around.
Close to the ground, this is somewhat more of a problem, as you see here on a very windy day.
A pilot usually adds a few knots of airspeed to their approach on a windy day, so if my usual approach speed is 80kts and the wind is 20kts, I’d add half the wind and approach at 90kts on that day. This makes the landing distance longer, which I might need to take into account with a big plane and a short runway when it’s snowing…
Looking at the weather reported, this landing would have been awfully close* to the certified operating limits of the aircraft, and they just got damn unlucky. (* let’s see just how close the investigators think it was, might easily have been the wrong side of the line).
Is it just me, or does the plane not flare to kill its vertical speed before touchdown? Just descends into the ground….
All the corner shops with a Post Office inside, in West London, only open the Post Office counter for some slight variant of 8am-6pm.
Is there a contractual thing? The shop themselves are very often open till midnight, every day….
Possibly contractual, but also possibly staffing issues. The people who operate the post office counter have to be trained and certified by the PO, the normal staff can't do it. So opening long hours would mean needing more trained staff. And that may not be financially viable, from what I understand these shops make very little money from the PO and Royal Mail - maybe different now, but a few years ago I was told if you send a package with a label bought online from RM the shop makes precisely nothing when you bring it in to send.
I make a point of buying a bag of sweets from the shop when I send packages so they're at least getting a little money out of the deal.
My local PO which sits in a WH Smith closes for 1 hour at 1:00 pm. Just in time for the lunchtime rush.
Fraser Nelson is Scottish and the former editor of the Spectator. For all those who watch Triggernometry (I try not to but sometimes I have to), the two interviewers are Konstantin Kisin and Francis Foster. Basically Konstantin Kisin does all the talking and Francis Foster just sits there, says nothing, and cashes the cheque. The clip dialogue is:
Fraser Nelson. I would say that Rishi Sunak is as English as Tizer and Y-fronts. He is absolutely English, he was born and bred here, and I wouldn't say the colour of his skin makes him any less...
Konstantin Kisin (interrupting): He's a brown Hindu, how is he English?
Fraser Nelson (shocked): Because he was born and bred here.
Konstantin Kisin (incredulous): So by being born here you become English in your opinion?
Anyone who views themselves as English is English. Ditto Russian, Jewish, Irish, etc. It is pathetically small-minded for any group to stand around saying they are the only true Englishmen, and that some others (look at their ancestry, their skin colour, down their trousers, what they like to eat, their religion, whether they refer much to the siege of Mafeking or only nod their agreement when "true" Englishmen are present, etc.) may think they're English but really they only live here.
You have to wonder about people who like to define what Englishness is and are keen to bring ethnicity into it.
We caved because the Government agreed to ransom Zaghari-Ratcliffe.
Should never have been done. No shock they've now got 2 more people to ransom.
Well I dare say - but I think you're replied to the wrong post.
We can have a chat sometime, though, if you like. Been a while.
I did indeed reply to the wrong post, it was meant to be @carnforth post at 2:38pm - no idea how that happened.
EDIT: Ah its the post directly above yours, must have just misclicked the wrong one.
Best video yet of the Canadian plane crash this morning. From the cockpit of another plane, which is somewhat unusual but there was a howling wind and freezing conditions.
Looks like they hit an air pocket at the worst possible time, and it smacked into the ground and rolled over.
The more videos watched of this one, the more utterly astonishing it is that everyone of 80 PoB got out. That could very, very, easily have been 80 fatalities.
Oh, thanks. Very impressive result.
BTW what's an 'air pocket' in modern terms? Sounds very Biggles era ...
The “air pocket” is an area of relatively less dense air, caused by air masses hitting each other and causing the air to move in different directions. Planes don’t fly as well in this less dense air, as they do in more dense air, hence they fall down in the air.
If your plane is in turbulence, you’re actually experiencing air of different densities or wind directions, which causes the plane appear to bounce around.
Close to the ground, this is somewhat more of a problem, as you see here on a very windy day.
A pilot usually adds a few knots of airspeed to their approach on a windy day, so if my usual approach speed is 80kts and the wind is 20kts, I’d add half the wind and approach at 90kts on that day. This makes the landing distance longer, which I might need to take into account with a big plane and a short runway when it’s snowing…
Looking at the weather reported, this landing would have been awfully close* to the certified operating limits of the aircraft, and they just got damn unlucky. (* let’s see just how close the investigators think it was, might easily have been the wrong side of the line).
Is it just me, or does the plane not flare to kill its vertical speed before touchdown? Just descends into the ground….
Yes that’s how it looks. Either they came in too slow for the wind or hit a gust at just the wrong time.
Horribly marginal conditions, will be a very interesting interim report to read.
Again it’s going to be mostly human factors though, that plane was likely 100% serviceable when it smacked into the ground.
There’s a phenomenon that pilots call “get-there-itis”, often a factor in private and military flights, which is a focus on completing the mission when all the signs say the mission should be aborted.
Best video yet of the Canadian plane crash this morning. From the cockpit of another plane, which is somewhat unusual but there was a howling wind and freezing conditions.
Looks like they hit an air pocket at the worst possible time, and it smacked into the ground and rolled over.
The more videos watched of this one, the more utterly astonishing it is that everyone of 80 PoB got out. That could very, very, easily have been 80 fatalities.
Oh, thanks. Very impressive result.
BTW what's an 'air pocket' in modern terms? Sounds very Biggles era ...
The “air pocket” is an area of relatively less dense air, caused by air masses hitting each other and causing the air to move in different directions. Planes don’t fly as well in this less dense air, as they do in more dense air, hence they fall down in the air.
If your plane is in turbulence, you’re actually experiencing air of different densities or wind directions, which causes the plane appear to bounce around.
Close to the ground, this is somewhat more of a problem, as you see here on a very windy day.
A pilot usually adds a few knots of airspeed to their approach on a windy day, so if my usual approach speed is 80kts and the wind is 20kts, I’d add half the wind and approach at 90kts on that day. This makes the landing distance longer, which I might need to take into account with a big plane and a short runway when it’s snowing…
Looking at the weather reported, this landing would have been awfully close* to the certified operating limits of the aircraft, and they just got damn unlucky. (* let’s see just how close the investigators think it was, might easily have been the wrong side of the line).
Is it just me, or does the plane not flare to kill its vertical speed before touchdown? Just descends into the ground….
Best video yet of the Canadian plane crash this morning. From the cockpit of another plane, which is somewhat unusual but there was a howling wind and freezing conditions.
Looks like they hit an air pocket at the worst possible time, and it smacked into the ground and rolled over.
The more videos watched of this one, the more utterly astonishing it is that everyone of 80 PoB got out. That could very, very, easily have been 80 fatalities.
I'm wondering if it's feasible for an aircraft crash to eject its wings in a crash? When you are in the crash phase the wings are just big tanks of flammable fuel waiting to cremate your passengers.
White House says Elon Musk is not part of DOGE https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5150599-white-house-elon-musk-doge/ The White House said Monday that Elon Musk is technically not part of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), even though the tech billionaire is said to be leading its sweeping cost-cutting efforts. Musk is an employee of the “White House Office” and serves as senior advisor to the president, said Joshua Fisher, director of the White House Office of Administration, in a court filing. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO is not an employee of the U.S. DOGE Service or the U.S. DOGE Service Temporary Organization, both of which are separate from the White House Office, according to Fisher. He is also not U.S. DOGE Service administrator, the head of DOGE as laid out in President Trump’s executive order last month establishing the service. “In his role as a Senior Advisor to the President, Mr. Musk has no greater authority than other senior White House advisors,” Fisher said in his declaration to the court...
Best video yet of the Canadian plane crash this morning. From the cockpit of another plane, which is somewhat unusual but there was a howling wind and freezing conditions.
Looks like they hit an air pocket at the worst possible time, and it smacked into the ground and rolled over.
The more videos watched of this one, the more utterly astonishing it is that everyone of 80 PoB got out. That could very, very, easily have been 80 fatalities.
I'm wondering if it's feasible for an aircraft crash to eject its wings in a crash? When you are in the crash phase the wings are just big tanks of flammable fuel waiting to cremate your passengers.
I assume that would make the structure less robust, and more prone to catastrophic failure during flight.
White House says Elon Musk is not part of DOGE https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5150599-white-house-elon-musk-doge/ The White House said Monday that Elon Musk is technically not part of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), even though the tech billionaire is said to be leading its sweeping cost-cutting efforts. Musk is an employee of the “White House Office” and serves as senior advisor to the president, said Joshua Fisher, director of the White House Office of Administration, in a court filing. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO is not an employee of the U.S. DOGE Service or the U.S. DOGE Service Temporary Organization, both of which are separate from the White House Office, according to Fisher. He is also not U.S. DOGE Service administrator, the head of DOGE as laid out in President Trump’s executive order last month establishing the service. “In his role as a Senior Advisor to the President, Mr. Musk has no greater authority than other senior White House advisors,” Fisher said in his declaration to the court...
England's most senior judge says she is "deeply troubled" by Sir Keir Starmer and Kemi Badenoch's exchange about a Gazan family coming to the UK under the Ukraine scheme.
Baroness Carr said on Tuesday: "Both question and the answer were unacceptable.
"It is for the government visibly to respect and protect the independence of the judiciary.
"Where parties, including the government, disagree with their findings, they should do so through the appellate process."
Politicians should absolutely have the right to debate and disagree with judicial rulings.
Where the Government disagrees with their findings, they can do so via changing the law, not just the appellate process.
And changing the law should be freely debated.
Last week after PMQs, some of the very clever people on here were denouncing Badenoch and blaming the Conservatives for creating the 'loophole', despite Starmer saying the judgement was wrong, the government saying it was wrong and fighting it twice, confirming it was specifically set out for Ukrainians, and not being able to explain what the actual 'loophole' was.
A week has gone and we still haven't heard anything from anyone on how this 'loophole' is being closed. No surprises.
A judgement can be wrong. Interpretations can happen. People should be free to disagree with a judgement, especially one like this, which is clearly not what was intended. I would be deeply troubled that Baroness Carr thinks otherwise.
White House says Elon Musk is not part of DOGE https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5150599-white-house-elon-musk-doge/ The White House said Monday that Elon Musk is technically not part of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), even though the tech billionaire is said to be leading its sweeping cost-cutting efforts. Musk is an employee of the “White House Office” and serves as senior advisor to the president, said Joshua Fisher, director of the White House Office of Administration, in a court filing. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO is not an employee of the U.S. DOGE Service or the U.S. DOGE Service Temporary Organization, both of which are separate from the White House Office, according to Fisher. He is also not U.S. DOGE Service administrator, the head of DOGE as laid out in President Trump’s executive order last month establishing the service. “In his role as a Senior Advisor to the President, Mr. Musk has no greater authority than other senior White House advisors,” Fisher said in his declaration to the court...
In terms of the likely corruption of future US economic data by the WH there are still independent reports that come out compiled by companies like S and P and ADF .
If that data shows a stark conflict with the politburos then that could cause issues .
Best video yet of the Canadian plane crash this morning. From the cockpit of another plane, which is somewhat unusual but there was a howling wind and freezing conditions.
Looks like they hit an air pocket at the worst possible time, and it smacked into the ground and rolled over.
The more videos watched of this one, the more utterly astonishing it is that everyone of 80 PoB got out. That could very, very, easily have been 80 fatalities.
I'm wondering if it's feasible for an aircraft crash to eject its wings in a crash? When you are in the crash phase the wings are just big tanks of flammable fuel waiting to cremate your passengers.
You propose cremating someone else, depending on where the wings land?
White House says Elon Musk is not part of DOGE https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5150599-white-house-elon-musk-doge/ The White House said Monday that Elon Musk is technically not part of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), even though the tech billionaire is said to be leading its sweeping cost-cutting efforts. Musk is an employee of the “White House Office” and serves as senior advisor to the president, said Joshua Fisher, director of the White House Office of Administration, in a court filing. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO is not an employee of the U.S. DOGE Service or the U.S. DOGE Service Temporary Organization, both of which are separate from the White House Office, according to Fisher. He is also not U.S. DOGE Service administrator, the head of DOGE as laid out in President Trump’s executive order last month establishing the service. “In his role as a Senior Advisor to the President, Mr. Musk has no greater authority than other senior White House advisors,” Fisher said in his declaration to the court...
Power without responsibility or accountability.
So Musk is in power but not in office ...
kinda sorta like a King...
No, the King is the polar opposite. In office, but not in power.
Best video yet of the Canadian plane crash this morning. From the cockpit of another plane, which is somewhat unusual but there was a howling wind and freezing conditions.
Looks like they hit an air pocket at the worst possible time, and it smacked into the ground and rolled over.
The more videos watched of this one, the more utterly astonishing it is that everyone of 80 PoB got out. That could very, very, easily have been 80 fatalities.
I'm wondering if it's feasible for an aircraft crash to eject its wings in a crash? When you are in the crash phase the wings are just big tanks of flammable fuel waiting to cremate your passengers.
If you make it easy for the wings to be ejected, you make it more likely than the wings fall off when you don't want them too!
White House says Elon Musk is not part of DOGE https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5150599-white-house-elon-musk-doge/ The White House said Monday that Elon Musk is technically not part of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), even though the tech billionaire is said to be leading its sweeping cost-cutting efforts. Musk is an employee of the “White House Office” and serves as senior advisor to the president, said Joshua Fisher, director of the White House Office of Administration, in a court filing. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO is not an employee of the U.S. DOGE Service or the U.S. DOGE Service Temporary Organization, both of which are separate from the White House Office, according to Fisher. He is also not U.S. DOGE Service administrator, the head of DOGE as laid out in President Trump’s executive order last month establishing the service. “In his role as a Senior Advisor to the President, Mr. Musk has no greater authority than other senior White House advisors,” Fisher said in his declaration to the court...
Power without responsibility or accountability.
So Musk is in power but not in office ...
kinda sorta like a King...
A constitutional monarch is constrained by law. Musk is effectively invisible to the law as far as his DOGE operations are concerned.
White House says Elon Musk is not part of DOGE https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5150599-white-house-elon-musk-doge/ The White House said Monday that Elon Musk is technically not part of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), even though the tech billionaire is said to be leading its sweeping cost-cutting efforts. Musk is an employee of the “White House Office” and serves as senior advisor to the president, said Joshua Fisher, director of the White House Office of Administration, in a court filing. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO is not an employee of the U.S. DOGE Service or the U.S. DOGE Service Temporary Organization, both of which are separate from the White House Office, according to Fisher. He is also not U.S. DOGE Service administrator, the head of DOGE as laid out in President Trump’s executive order last month establishing the service. “In his role as a Senior Advisor to the President, Mr. Musk has no greater authority than other senior White House advisors,” Fisher said in his declaration to the court...
Power without responsibility or accountability.
So Musk is in power but not in office ...
kinda sorta like a King...
A constitutional monarch is constrained by law. Musk is effectively invisible to the law as far as his DOGE operations are concerned.
Best video yet of the Canadian plane crash this morning. From the cockpit of another plane, which is somewhat unusual but there was a howling wind and freezing conditions.
Looks like they hit an air pocket at the worst possible time, and it smacked into the ground and rolled over.
The more videos watched of this one, the more utterly astonishing it is that everyone of 80 PoB got out. That could very, very, easily have been 80 fatalities.
I'm wondering if it's feasible for an aircraft crash to eject its wings in a crash? When you are in the crash phase the wings are just big tanks of flammable fuel waiting to cremate your passengers.
I assume that would make the structure less robust, and more prone to catastrophic failure during flight.
The Grumman F8F Bearcat was originally designed with wingtips that would break off (at the hinge line) if the design G was exceeded.
This proved to be a dangerous failure in practice.
Best video yet of the Canadian plane crash this morning. From the cockpit of another plane, which is somewhat unusual but there was a howling wind and freezing conditions.
Looks like they hit an air pocket at the worst possible time, and it smacked into the ground and rolled over.
The more videos watched of this one, the more utterly astonishing it is that everyone of 80 PoB got out. That could very, very, easily have been 80 fatalities.
I'm wondering if it's feasible for an aircraft crash to eject its wings in a crash? When you are in the crash phase the wings are just big tanks of flammable fuel waiting to cremate your passengers.
That'll be like the "seatbelts on trains" thing. (*) There will be crashes where not having the wings is useful; others where you would actually want them to remain on (the ditching in the Hudson being one...)
A big problem with losing the wings is where any debris goes. Unless you somehow eject them, they could pivot around and enter the cabin further back.
Besides, I think I'd much prefer any plane I'm on not to have an emergency wing ejection capability...
Best video yet of the Canadian plane crash this morning. From the cockpit of another plane, which is somewhat unusual but there was a howling wind and freezing conditions.
Looks like they hit an air pocket at the worst possible time, and it smacked into the ground and rolled over.
The more videos watched of this one, the more utterly astonishing it is that everyone of 80 PoB got out. That could very, very, easily have been 80 fatalities.
I'm wondering if it's feasible for an aircraft crash to eject its wings in a crash? When you are in the crash phase the wings are just big tanks of flammable fuel waiting to cremate your passengers.
Err, nope. The wings have to take massive loads in flight. They test one to destruction in a lab as part of the certification, and you wouldn’t believe the angle at which it actually breaks.
Any system designed to make a serviceable aircraft instantly very much unserviceable, is way more likely to suffer from false positives than successful deployments.
I do wonder if the lack of fire in this accident is possibly indicative of a lack of fuel on board…
All the corner shops with a Post Office inside, in West London, only open the Post Office counter for some slight variant of 8am-6pm.
Is there a contractual thing? The shop themselves are very often open till midnight, every day….
Possibly contractual, but also possibly staffing issues. The people who operate the post office counter have to be trained and certified by the PO, the normal staff can't do it. So opening long hours would mean needing more trained staff. And that may not be financially viable, from what I understand these shops make very little money from the PO and Royal Mail - maybe different now, but a few years ago I was told if you send a package with a label bought online from RM the shop makes precisely nothing when you bring it in to send.
I make a point of buying a bag of sweets from the shop when I send packages so they're at least getting a little money out of the deal.
My local PO which sits in a WH Smith closes for 1 hour at 1:00 pm. Just in time for the lunchtime rush.
Almost as if it were run primarily for the benefit of the staff, rather than the benefit of the customers…
The difference between private sector and public sector organisations.
Fraser Nelson is Scottish and the former editor of the Spectator. For all those who watch Triggernometry (I try not to but sometimes I have to), the two interviewers are Konstantin Kisin and Francis Foster. Basically Konstantin Kisin does all the talking and Francis Foster just sits there, says nothing, and cashes the cheque. The clip dialogue is:
Fraser Nelson. I would say that Rishi Sunak is as English as Tizer and Y-fronts. He is absolutely English, he was born and bred here, and I wouldn't say the colour of his skin makes him any less...
Konstantin Kisin (interrupting): He's a brown Hindu, how is he English?
Fraser Nelson (shocked): Because he was born and bred here.
Konstantin Kisin (incredulous): So by being born here you become English in your opinion?
Fraser Nelson is Scottish and the former editor of the Spectator. For all those who watch Triggernometry (I try not to but sometimes I have to), the two interviewers are Konstantin Kisin and Francis Foster. Basically Konstantin Kisin does all the talking and Francis Foster just sits there, says nothing, and cashes the cheque. The clip dialogue is:
Fraser Nelson. I would say that Rishi Sunak is as English as Tizer and Y-fronts. He is absolutely English, he was born and bred here, and I wouldn't say the colour of his skin makes him any less...
Konstantin Kisin (interrupting): He's a brown Hindu, how is he English?
Fraser Nelson (shocked): Because he was born and bred here.
Konstantin Kisin (incredulous): So by being born here you become English in your opinion?
Nitpicking a bit but why should anyone care whether Konstantin Kison, not born here, thinks Rishi Sunak who is a native to this country, is British?
Wellington's views on being born in a stable appeal to some.
If someone is born in a stable in England, they are English.
If someone is born in a stable in Bethlehem, they are...?
Judean?
Ius soli! However, one of the firm realities about the actual historical Jesus is that he was regarded as a Galilean; which in Roman empire terms was not in the same jurisdiction as Judea.
The probability that Jesus was in fact born somewhere in Galilee and not in Bethlehem - an account which shows strong signs of post hoc legitimation myth - is one of those things most people really don't want to know.
I was aware of some of that (and certainly that he was viewed as a Galilean) which would make Sunak Indian and not English after all.
But really I was trying to avoid Israel/Palestine and setting up for someone to run a Monty Python splitter gag, which to @MarqueeMark's credit he did against @Sunil_Prasannan's reply instead,
In answer to an earlier question: Almost 10,000 Americans, almost all of them female, are named Liberty:
The "London Overground" network of railways (I guess a kind of "commuter rail" if they were Stateside) were recently rebranded with unique Line names. The name chosen for the really rather short line between Romford and Upminster in the outer eastern suburbs was "Liberty Line". I can only imagine it's a reference to the "Liberty Mall" in Romford.
In answer to an earlier question: Almost 10,000 Americans, almost all of them female, are named Liberty:
The "London Overground" network of railways (I guess a kind of "commuter rail" if they were Stateside) were recently rebranded with unique Line names. The name chosen for the really rather short line between Romford and Upminster in the outer eastern suburbs was "Liberty Line". I can only imagine it's a reference to the "Liberty Mall" in Romford.
Surely the Liberty Line name refers to the sense the passengers get as they leave Womfud
In answer to an earlier question: Almost 10,000 Americans, almost all of them female, are named Liberty:
The "London Overground" network of railways (I guess a kind of "commuter rail" if they were Stateside) were recently rebranded with unique Line names. The name chosen for the really rather short line between Romford and Upminster in the outer eastern suburbs was "Liberty Line". I can only imagine it's a reference to the "Liberty Mall" in Romford.
Best video yet of the Canadian plane crash this morning. From the cockpit of another plane, which is somewhat unusual but there was a howling wind and freezing conditions.
Looks like they hit an air pocket at the worst possible time, and it smacked into the ground and rolled over.
The more videos watched of this one, the more utterly astonishing it is that everyone of 80 PoB got out. That could very, very, easily have been 80 fatalities.
Hmm. That seems to me they were fairly wings-level at impact, and they just came down too hard?
The nose of the aircraft drops and the rate of descent steepens notably just as it passes the large building in the background, the right wing drops a bit and the pilot isn't able to get it back before impact.
Possible the pilot just fluffed it, or the aircraft got hit by an unexpectedly strong tailwind and lost some lift just as it was too late to recover.
White House says Elon Musk is not part of DOGE https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5150599-white-house-elon-musk-doge/ The White House said Monday that Elon Musk is technically not part of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), even though the tech billionaire is said to be leading its sweeping cost-cutting efforts. Musk is an employee of the “White House Office” and serves as senior advisor to the president, said Joshua Fisher, director of the White House Office of Administration, in a court filing. The Tesla and SpaceX CEO is not an employee of the U.S. DOGE Service or the U.S. DOGE Service Temporary Organization, both of which are separate from the White House Office, according to Fisher. He is also not U.S. DOGE Service administrator, the head of DOGE as laid out in President Trump’s executive order last month establishing the service. “In his role as a Senior Advisor to the President, Mr. Musk has no greater authority than other senior White House advisors,” Fisher said in his declaration to the court...
Power without responsibility or accountability.
So Musk is in power but not in office ...
kinda sorta like a King...
A constitutional monarch is constrained by law. Musk is effectively invisible to the law as far as his DOGE operations are concerned.
When the large language models start running the show, gov't employees will be wishing for the halycon days of the Musk interregnum.
In answer to an earlier question: Almost 10,000 Americans, almost all of them female, are named Liberty:
The "London Overground" network of railways (I guess a kind of "commuter rail" if they were Stateside) were recently rebranded with unique Line names. The name chosen for the really rather short line between Romford and Upminster in the outer eastern suburbs was "Liberty Line". I can only imagine it's a reference to the "Liberty Mall" in Romford.
In answer to an earlier question: Almost 10,000 Americans, almost all of them female, are named Liberty:
The "London Overground" network of railways (I guess a kind of "commuter rail" if they were Stateside) were recently rebranded with unique Line names. The name chosen for the really rather short line between Romford and Upminster in the outer eastern suburbs was "Liberty Line". I can only imagine it's a reference to the "Liberty Mall" in Romford.
Out of amused interest, Trump appears to have stopped dying his remaining hair orange and has changed toupee to match. Was there a definitive date he did this, other did he wake up one morning and think "this looks stupid" as I did with my lockdown beard?
Know what we desperately need in order to explain the current state of world politics? An Adam Curtis documentary or three.
I've just finished watching his TraumaZone (iplayer), an immersive impressionistic no-voiceover film collage of Russia as communism collapsed, and what replaced it, covering the years 1985 to 2000.
Seven hours and worth it. It put you right there (as much as is possible when you weren't). What a vast and diverse country. And what a tragedy for its people to be liberated from the yolk of the USSR only to be robbed blind by a bunch of gangsters under the aegis of "capitalism" and "democracy".
Does anyone know if I can get away with 32mm tyres on the Canal du Midi towpath. Anyone done it? I have always found the skill level required and difficulty tends to be exaggerated on the internet. I don't want to be caught out, but I really don't want big tyres either if it is civilised.
Know what we desperately need in order to explain the current state of world politics? An Adam Curtis documentary or three.
I've just finished watching his TraumaZone (iplayer), an immersive impressionistic no-voiceover film collage of Russia as communism collapsed, and what replaced it, covering the years 1985 to 2000.
Seven hours and worth it. It put you right there (as much as is possible when you weren't). What a vast and diverse country. And what a tragedy for its people to be liberated from the yolk of the USSR only to be robbed blind by a bunch of gangsters under the aegis of "capitalism" and "democracy".
Such a missed opportunity.
Its been robbed far more by a bunch of gangsters under the aegis of "security" and "stability".
In answer to an earlier question: Almost 10,000 Americans, almost all of them female, are named Liberty:
My dog sitter has a daughter named Liberty. She is from a traveller family.
"Virtue" names have been back in fashion for a while. I know a little Constance, and a couple of Felicitys.
Any Probitys ?
I'm waiting for "Faith", "Hope" and "Charity"
I do know a Hope, but she is in her Twenties. A social worker appropriately.
Some of our African nurses have great Virtue names. We have a Mercy, a Blessing, a Patience and best of all a Sympathy.
Many years ago, in my working days, I had a Zimb,abwean student (male) called Blessing.
I once received an e-mail at work saying "Justice is working for --------". I thought that was nice, the legal system was working for him, then I realised Justice was a name.
Know what we desperately need in order to explain the current state of world politics? An Adam Curtis documentary or three.
Adum Curtis, much as I love him, has effectively been superseded by YouTubers. Which is a pity as I really enjoyed his work.
To understand this, we must return to the 1970s, to the moment when a small, but peculiar phenomenon began to shape the world in ways we didn't comprehend at the time. It wasn’t a politician, nor a movement, but something more subtle: the idea of the ‘mediated celebrity’.
Judith Chalmers. A name that perhaps, to many, has been lost to the sands of time. A television presenter, a symbol of an era when Britain became obsessed with idyllic travel and escapism. She wasn’t just a presenter – no, the permatanned Judith Chalmers embodied a type of aspiration. The kind that was marketed as attainable, simple, and above all, real.
It is in this moment, in the cozy homes of millions, that the groundwork for something darker began to take shape. Chalmers brought us the world – an exotic, packaged, “wish you were here” version of reality.
Fast forward to the late 2010s. Another permatanned figure, born out of a different world, emerges onto the stage. Donald Trump, a billionaire businessman with a mind for spectacle. He becomes an embodiment of Chalmers’s era—an era where people desired the easy life, the life they saw on television, and people wished they were there.
Know what we desperately need in order to explain the current state of world politics? An Adam Curtis documentary or three.
I've just finished watching his TraumaZone (iplayer), an immersive impressionistic no-voiceover film collage of Russia as communism collapsed, and what replaced it, covering the years 1985 to 2000.
Seven hours and worth it. It put you right there (as much as is possible when you weren't). What a vast and diverse country. And what a tragedy for its people to be liberated from the yolk of the USSR only to be robbed blind by a bunch of gangsters under the aegis of "capitalism" and "democracy".
Such a missed opportunity.
Its been robbed far more by a bunch of gangsters under the aegis of "security" and "stability".
It's gone from bad to bad via bad, but there was a chance for something good. If only we could go back to when Yeltsin first came in and have another go.
Know what we desperately need in order to explain the current state of world politics? An Adam Curtis documentary or three.
Adum Curtis, much as I love him, has effectively been superseded by YouTubers. Which is a pity as I really enjoyed his work.
Yes, so many old media folks have totally missed the new media wave.
Yes, it's annoying. Of all the people positioned for new media he was the best, but what was the last thing he did? "Can't Get You Out of My Head" in 2021? Still, I imagine he's not the kind of talent that does hot takes, which is for the best
Fraser Nelson is Scottish and the former editor of the Spectator. For all those who watch Triggernometry (I try not to but sometimes I have to), the two interviewers are Konstantin Kisin and Francis Foster. Basically Konstantin Kisin does all the talking and Francis Foster just sits there, says nothing, and cashes the cheque. The clip dialogue is:
Fraser Nelson. I would say that Rishi Sunak is as English as Tizer and Y-fronts. He is absolutely English, he was born and bred here, and I wouldn't say the colour of his skin makes him any less...
Konstantin Kisin (interrupting): He's a brown Hindu, how is he English?
Fraser Nelson (shocked): Because he was born and bred here.
Konstantin Kisin (incredulous): So by being born here you become English in your opinion?
Nitpicking a bit but why should anyone care whether Konstantin Kison, not born here, thinks Rishi Sunak who is a native to this country, is British?
That’s nativism.
Maybe unlike others, I welcome immigrants who have something to offer and are committed to our country. Sometimes mistakes are made however. It looks like Konstantin Kison is one of them.
He seems to have something to offer and I would assume he is a net contributor fiscally. Should we exclude people on the basis of their views?
Absolutely exclude people on the basis of their views. What else would you exclude immigrants on?
And I don't count as "something to offer" going round saying someone who is brown skin and the "wrong" religion doesn't deserve their born nationality
So would you support banning devout fundamentalist christians on the grounds they have mysogynist views
I would exile all smokers, cyclists and dog-owners to Rwanda Gaza!
Gaza is too good for cyclists
You inspired me to look at the Strava heat map for Gaza/West Bank, and it's pretty depressing. It's a good indicator of population in developed countries.
Lots of brave people still whizzing about in Ukraine though.
Know what we desperately need in order to explain the current state of world politics? An Adam Curtis documentary or three.
I've just finished watching his TraumaZone (iplayer), an immersive impressionistic no-voiceover film collage of Russia as communism collapsed, and what replaced it, covering the years 1985 to 2000.
Seven hours and worth it. It put you right there (as much as is possible when you weren't). What a vast and diverse country. And what a tragedy for its people to be liberated from the yolk of the USSR only to be robbed blind by a bunch of gangsters under the aegis of "capitalism" and "democracy".
Such a missed opportunity.
Its been robbed far more by a bunch of gangsters under the aegis of "security" and "stability".
It's gone from bad to bad via bad, but there was a chance for something good. If only we could go back to when Yeltsin first came in and have another go.
Its gone from awful, to bad, and back to awful again.
The 90s were the least-worst they've had it, sadly.
In answer to an earlier question: Almost 10,000 Americans, almost all of them female, are named Liberty:
My dog sitter has a daughter named Liberty. She is from a traveller family.
"Virtue" names have been back in fashion for a while. I know a little Constance, and a couple of Felicitys.
Any Probitys ?
I'm waiting for "Faith", "Hope" and "Charity"
I do know a Hope, but she is in her Twenties. A social worker appropriately.
Some of our African nurses have great Virtue names. We have a Mercy, a Blessing, a Patience and best of all a Sympathy.
The female pilots in captain scarlet were called symphony melody Rhapsody harmony.
A also used to have a very pukka former RAF fighter pilot, waxed moustache and all, who used to fly Lightenings. He was Valentine, born on 14th Feb.
A winged cherub indeed...
Anyone who flew Lightnings I think would be fun to have a conversation with. Must be the most scary ride out there.
A neighbour of a friend is working on one at the Gatwick Aviation Museum and they have got the engine running. I doubt it will ever be allowed to fly, but it would be fantastic to see it do so.
England's most senior judge says she is "deeply troubled" by Sir Keir Starmer and Kemi Badenoch's exchange about a Gazan family coming to the UK under the Ukraine scheme.
Baroness Carr said on Tuesday: "Both question and the answer were unacceptable.
"It is for the government visibly to respect and protect the independence of the judiciary.
"Where parties, including the government, disagree with their findings, they should do so through the appellate process."
Politicians should absolutely have the right to debate and disagree with judicial rulings.
Where the Government disagrees with their findings, they can do so via changing the law, not just the appellate process.
And changing the law should be freely debated.
Last week after PMQs, some of the very clever people on here were denouncing Badenoch and blaming the Conservatives for creating the 'loophole', despite Starmer saying the judgement was wrong, the government saying it was wrong and fighting it twice, confirming it was specifically set out for Ukrainians, and not being able to explain what the actual 'loophole' was.
A week has gone and we still haven't heard anything from anyone on how this 'loophole' is being closed. No surprises.
A judgement can be wrong. Interpretations can happen. People should be free to disagree with a judgement, especially one like this, which is clearly not what was intended. I would be deeply troubled that Baroness Carr thinks otherwise.
The "loophole" seems to be that Starmer thinks a provision of the ECHR was interpreted too broadly.
I can't see that that can simply be addressed by changing UK law. Or if it can, we seem to be very close to Rwandan territory again.
England's most senior judge says she is "deeply troubled" by Sir Keir Starmer and Kemi Badenoch's exchange about a Gazan family coming to the UK under the Ukraine scheme.
Baroness Carr said on Tuesday: "Both question and the answer were unacceptable.
"It is for the government visibly to respect and protect the independence of the judiciary.
"Where parties, including the government, disagree with their findings, they should do so through the appellate process."
Politicians should absolutely have the right to debate and disagree with judicial rulings.
Where the Government disagrees with their findings, they can do so via changing the law, not just the appellate process.
And changing the law should be freely debated.
Last week after PMQs, some of the very clever people on here were denouncing Badenoch and blaming the Conservatives for creating the 'loophole', despite Starmer saying the judgement was wrong, the government saying it was wrong and fighting it twice, confirming it was specifically set out for Ukrainians, and not being able to explain what the actual 'loophole' was.
A week has gone and we still haven't heard anything from anyone on how this 'loophole' is being closed. No surprises.
A judgement can be wrong. Interpretations can happen. People should be free to disagree with a judgement, especially one like this, which is clearly not what was intended. I would be deeply troubled that Baroness Carr thinks otherwise.
The "loophole" seems to be that Starmer thinks a provision of the ECHR was interpreted too broadly.
I can't see that that can simply be addressed by changing UK law. Or if it can, we seem to be very close to Rwandan territory again.
You're overlooking the fact that we now have a Labour government, so overriding international law in a limited and specific way would be a sensible, pragmatic step to protect the integrity of the system and not a dangerous threat to international norms and Britain's place in the world which would be the case if a Tory government did it.
I understand that 'Toniblair' is a 'not uncommon' first name in parts of former Yugoslavia. And at one time in the gym I used to attend (when I could, sob) there was an instructor called Stalin. Very pleasant and helpful, though!
In answer to an earlier question: Almost 10,000 Americans, almost all of them female, are named Liberty:
My dog sitter has a daughter named Liberty. She is from a traveller family.
"Virtue" names have been back in fashion for a while. I know a little Constance, and a couple of Felicitys.
Any Probitys ?
I'm waiting for "Faith", "Hope" and "Charity"
I do know a Hope, but she is in her Twenties. A social worker appropriately.
Some of our African nurses have great Virtue names. We have a Mercy, a Blessing, a Patience and best of all a Sympathy.
The female pilots in captain scarlet were called symphony melody Rhapsody harmony.
A also used to have a very pukka former RAF fighter pilot, waxed moustache and all, who used to fly Lightenings. He was Valentine, born on 14th Feb.
A winged cherub indeed...
Anyone who flew Lightnings I think would be fun to have a conversation with. Must be the most scary ride out there.
A neighbour of a friend is working on one at the Gatwick Aviation Museum and they have got the engine running. I doubt it will ever be allowed to fly, but it would be fantastic to see it do so.
An amazing plane.
He did once hit a swarm of locusts flying in Aden, and they killed his engine, but that was in a Hawker Hunter as I recall. Not sure how he got down intact.
Know what we desperately need in order to explain the current state of world politics? An Adam Curtis documentary or three.
Adum Curtis, much as I love him, has effectively been superseded by YouTubers. Which is a pity as I really enjoyed his work.
To understand this, we must return to the 1970s, to the moment when a small, but peculiar phenomenon began to shape the world in ways we didn't comprehend at the time. It wasn’t a politician, nor a movement, but something more subtle: the idea of the ‘mediated celebrity’.
Judith Chalmers. A name that perhaps, to many, has been lost to the sands of time. A television presenter, a symbol of an era when Britain became obsessed with idyllic travel and escapism. She wasn’t just a presenter – no, the permatanned Judith Chalmers embodied a type of aspiration. The kind that was marketed as attainable, simple, and above all, real.
It is in this moment, in the cozy homes of millions, that the groundwork for something darker began to take shape. Chalmers brought us the world – an exotic, packaged, “wish you were here” version of reality.
Fast forward to the late 2010s. Another permatanned figure, born out of a different world, emerges onto the stage. Donald Trump, a billionaire businessman with a mind for spectacle. He becomes an embodiment of Chalmers’s era—an era where people desired the easy life, the life they saw on television, and people wished they were there.
So, we have to build a time machine, go back and kill...Judith Chalmers?
Out of amused interest, Trump appears to have stopped dying his remaining hair orange and has changed toupee to match. Was there a definitive date he did this, other did he wake up one morning and think "this looks stupid" as I did with my lockdown beard?
Kamala should have opened the debate with "nice, toupee Donald, I hope it was American made"
Know what we desperately need in order to explain the current state of world politics? An Adam Curtis documentary or three.
I've just finished watching his TraumaZone (iplayer), an immersive impressionistic no-voiceover film collage of Russia as communism collapsed, and what replaced it, covering the years 1985 to 2000.
Seven hours and worth it. It put you right there (as much as is possible when you weren't). What a vast and diverse country. And what a tragedy for its people to be liberated from the yolk of the USSR only to be robbed blind by a bunch of gangsters under the aegis of "capitalism" and "democracy".
Such a missed opportunity.
Its been robbed far more by a bunch of gangsters under the aegis of "security" and "stability".
It's gone from bad to bad via bad, but there was a chance for something good. If only we could go back to when Yeltsin first came in and have another go.
Its gone from awful, to bad, and back to awful again.
The 90s were the least-worst they've had it, sadly.
The missed opportunity of that least bad period is what is poignant. There was a chance to build something that worked for people but instead they got corruption, grand theft by the Oligarchs, then Putin and dictatorship.
I understand that 'Toniblair' is a 'not uncommon' first name in parts of former Yugoslavia. And at one time in the gym I used to attend (when I could, sob) there was an instructor called Stalin. Very pleasant and helpful, though!
Wonder if there was a spike of "Boris" in Ukraine?
Or maybe it is hard to tell?
Just outside Nottingham in the early 1900s there was a set of three children (possibly triplets) who were named Fudge, Fart and Throstle.
Oh for the good old days when we had proper names, like Praise God Barebones. Or his son, If-Christ-had-not-died-for-thee-thou-hadst-been-damned Barebones. (Apparently the latter preferred to be called Nicholas, for some reason.)
I understand that 'Toniblair' is a 'not uncommon' first name in parts of former Yugoslavia. And at one time in the gym I used to attend (when I could, sob) there was an instructor called Stalin. Very pleasant and helpful, though!
Wonder if there was a spike of "Boris" in Ukraine?
Or maybe it is hard to tell?
Just outside Nottingham in the early 1900s there was a set of three children (possibly triplets) who were named Fudge, Fart and Throstle.
Ironically his instagram handle is a Ukrainianised verson of his name: Boris Johnsonuk.
Best video yet of the Canadian plane crash this morning. From the cockpit of another plane, which is somewhat unusual but there was a howling wind and freezing conditions.
Looks like they hit an air pocket at the worst possible time, and it smacked into the ground and rolled over.
The more videos watched of this one, the more utterly astonishing it is that everyone of 80 PoB got out. That could very, very, easily have been 80 fatalities.
I'm wondering if it's feasible for an aircraft crash to eject its wings in a crash? When you are in the crash phase the wings are just big tanks of flammable fuel waiting to cremate your passengers.
That'll be like the "seatbelts on trains" thing. (*) There will be crashes where not having the wings is useful; others where you would actually want them to remain on (the ditching in the Hudson being one...)
A big problem with losing the wings is where any debris goes. Unless you somehow eject them, they could pivot around and enter the cabin further back.
Besides, I think I'd much prefer any plane I'm on not to have an emergency wing ejection capability...
In answer to an earlier question: Almost 10,000 Americans, almost all of them female, are named Liberty:
My dog sitter has a daughter named Liberty. She is from a traveller family.
"Virtue" names have been back in fashion for a while. I know a little Constance, and a couple of Felicitys.
Any Probitys ?
I'm waiting for "Faith", "Hope" and "Charity"
I do know a Hope, but she is in her Twenties. A social worker appropriately.
Some of our African nurses have great Virtue names. We have a Mercy, a Blessing, a Patience and best of all a Sympathy.
You do wonder if you get the opposites some part of the world..?
A Bastard, a Curse, a Whirlwind, a Merciless and an Arsehole.
Yes, you do.
In the Casamance region of Senegal the locals are animists, very proudly so, and believe in fetishes, magic and the idea that disease and death are caused by evil spirits.
When a woman loses more than one child in infancy, or has multiple miscarriages, it is thought to be because the evil spirits are taking them. So she deliberately calls future children ugly or stupid names in order to put off the spirits from being interested.
Examples I was told included “poubelle”, “idiot”, and my favourite - told to me by this mother in the photo about her son, and which incidentally tells you a lot about Senegalese attitudes to one of their neighbouring countries, is “Guinea Conakry”.
[removed photo as unfair to post without permission - which is somewhat hard to get in this context]
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Horribly marginal conditions, will be a very interesting interim report to read.
Again it’s going to be mostly human factors though, that plane was likely 100% serviceable when it smacked into the ground.
There’s a phenomenon that pilots call “get-there-itis”, often a factor in private and military flights, which is a focus on completing the mission when all the signs say the mission should be aborted.
A week has gone and we still haven't heard anything from anyone on how this 'loophole' is being closed. No surprises.
A judgement can be wrong. Interpretations can happen. People should be free to disagree with a judgement, especially one like this, which is clearly not what was intended. I would be deeply troubled that Baroness Carr thinks otherwise.
If that data shows a stark conflict with the politburos then that could cause issues .
Musk is effectively invisible to the law as far as his DOGE operations are concerned.
This proved to be a dangerous failure in practice.
A big problem with losing the wings is where any debris goes. Unless you somehow eject them, they could pivot around and enter the cabin further back.
Besides, I think I'd much prefer any plane I'm on not to have an emergency wing ejection capability...
(*): https://www.railwaygazette.com/news/study-says-no-to-seat-belts-on-trains/32221.article
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai2HmvAXcU0
Any system designed to make a serviceable aircraft instantly very much unserviceable, is way more likely to suffer from false positives than successful deployments.
I do wonder if the lack of fire in this accident is possibly indicative of a lack of fuel on board…
"BRENT LBC; Alperton (LD resigned)
Candidates:
CLINTON, Charlie (Liberal Democrat)
NEGI, Mahendra (Reform UK)
THAKKAR, Prerna (Labour)
VYAS, Harmit (Conservative)
2022: LD 2108, 1703, 1631; Lab 1871, 1688, 1566; Con 553, 532, 450"
https://vote-2012.proboards.com/thread/19301/local-council-elections-18th-february
Here he is in parliament, claiming to have worked as a solicitor in Manchester city centre.
https://x.com/ArchRose90/status/1891849573833797731
Maybe he just mis-spoke, but it is odd how many other times it gets mentioned and not corrected. A cabinet of fantasists?
The difference between private sector and public sector organisations.
But really I was trying to avoid Israel/Palestine and setting up for someone to run a Monty Python splitter gag, which to @MarqueeMark's credit he did against @Sunil_Prasannan's reply instead,
Possible the pilot just fluffed it, or the aircraft got hit by an unexpectedly strong tailwind and lost some lift just as it was too late to recover.
Some of our African nurses have great Virtue names. We have a Mercy, a Blessing, a Patience and best of all a Sympathy.
They were born in an air raid during the Blitz.
A Bastard, a Curse, a Whirlwind, a Merciless and an Arsehole.
https://www.youtube.com/@ZeihanonGeopolitics
https://www.youtube.com/@CaspianReport
https://www.youtube.com/@GoodTimesBadTimes
https://www.youtube.com/@KingsandGenerals
I don't know of a specifically British successor to Adam Curtis. Possibly this guy is the closest, but I think not close enough
https://www.youtube.com/@Tom_Nicholas
Can anybody suggest a modern YouTuber equivalent to Adam Curtis? CoPilot just gave me a 5-yr old reddit post, which is not really helpful
Seven hours and worth it. It put you right there (as much as is possible when you weren't). What a vast and diverse country. And what a tragedy for its people to be liberated from the yolk of the USSR only to be robbed blind by a bunch of gangsters under the aegis of "capitalism" and "democracy".
Such a missed opportunity.
A winged cherub indeed...
I thought that was nice, the legal system was working for him, then I realised Justice was a name.
Judith Chalmers. A name that perhaps, to many, has been lost to the sands of time. A television presenter, a symbol of an era when Britain became obsessed with idyllic travel and escapism. She wasn’t just a presenter – no, the permatanned Judith Chalmers embodied a type of aspiration. The kind that was marketed as attainable, simple, and above all, real.
It is in this moment, in the cozy homes of millions, that the groundwork for something darker began to take shape. Chalmers brought us the world – an exotic, packaged, “wish you were here” version of reality.
Fast forward to the late 2010s. Another permatanned figure, born out of a different world, emerges onto the stage. Donald Trump, a billionaire businessman with a mind for spectacle. He becomes an embodiment of Chalmers’s era—an era where people desired the easy life, the life they saw on television, and people wished they were there.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB1019080883709332640
Lots of brave people still whizzing about in Ukraine though.
The 90s were the least-worst they've had it, sadly.
A neighbour of a friend is working on one at the Gatwick Aviation Museum and they have got the engine running. I doubt it will ever be allowed to fly, but it would be fantastic to see it do so.
An amazing plane.
Biggles.
Quite a pause.
Turned out he was a third child and his parents had let his siblings name him. And they wanted to call him Biggles. So he was.
I can't see that that can simply be addressed by changing UK law. Or if it can, we seem to be very close to Rwandan territory again.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/webarchive/https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/group/p0977f8d
https://www.reddit.com/r/AdamCurtis/
https://www.ft.com/content/80138c82-2fca-41cd-a3e2-18296b1fb1bf
It's a great film. Very moving.
Or maybe it is hard to tell?
Just outside Nottingham in the early 1900s there was a set of three children (possibly triplets) who were named Fudge, Fart and Throstle.
Blessing Muzarabani is a rather talented young pacer and they had a Blessing Mawhire who was rather less talented but also a pacer.
[Also probably a name in the Philippines]
(Actually I feel a little bit bad linking to that.)
In the Casamance region of Senegal the locals are animists, very proudly so, and believe in fetishes, magic and the idea that disease and death are caused by evil spirits.
When a woman loses more than one child in infancy, or has multiple miscarriages, it is thought to be because the evil spirits are taking them. So she deliberately calls future children ugly or stupid names in order to put off the spirits from being interested.
Examples I was told included “poubelle”, “idiot”, and my favourite - told to me by this mother in the photo about her son, and which incidentally tells you a lot about Senegalese attitudes to one of their neighbouring countries, is “Guinea Conakry”.
[removed photo as unfair to post without permission - which is somewhat hard to get in this context]