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Why two plus two may not add up to four – politicalbetting.com

SystemSystem Posts: 12,320
edited February 18 in General
Why two plus two may not add up to four – politicalbetting.com

It's the Reform split that really needs to be thought about. These aren't Tories on holiday. The majority want to destroy the Conservative party.

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  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,911
    First not like NVidia
  • I decided to not use that Farage photo. You can all thank me now.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,612
    The clue is in the names. Conserving something and Reforming it at the same time is a difficult (although not impossible) trick to pull off.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,001
    edited January 28
    From 108/3 to 127/7, this England team need a good shooing.

    Edit 127/8.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 29,999

    I decided to not use that Farage photo. You can all thank me now.

    Leon has been banging on about lab leaks all day so there is no doubt that as a collective we deserved the Farage picture punishment.
  • I decided to not use that Farage photo. You can all thank me now.

    Leon has been banging on about lab leaks all day so there is no doubt that as a collective we deserved the Farage picture punishment.
    I've done much better, I've forward his comments to Jeremy Farrar and his lawyers.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,021
    Rule #1 of limited overs cricket. Make sure you use all of your overs.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,091
    Sandpit said:

    Rule #1 of limited overs cricket. Make sure you use all of your overs.

    Why though? 200 all out in 15 overs is better than 170 for 8 in 20.

    I'd understand it in league cricket where there a certain number of overs for the match (e.g. 100) and you have up to 50 batting first. There your opponents get extra if you are bowled out. But not in T20 etc
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,911
    Sandpit said:

    Rule #1 of limited overs cricket. Make sure you use all of your overs.

    Yawwwwwnnnnn :lol:
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,021

    Sandpit said:

    Rule #1 of limited overs cricket. Make sure you use all of your overs.

    Why though? 200 all out in 15 overs is better than 170 for 8 in 20.

    I'd understand it in league cricket where there a certain number of overs for the match (e.g. 100) and you have up to 50 batting first. There your opponents get extra if you are bowled out. But not in T20 etc
    Not always it’s not, depends on the competition - and if you end up with a rain-affected game you can be screwed if you’ve lost wickets early.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 74,153
    If you were Taiwan/TSMC, how would you react to this "incentive" ?

    Donald Trump announced that he plans to impose massive tariffs on Taiwan-made chips:

    “We do not want to give them billions of dollars like this ridiculous program that Biden has given everybody billions of dollars.”

    https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1884102779737890922
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,091
    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    Rule #1 of limited overs cricket. Make sure you use all of your overs.

    Why though? 200 all out in 15 overs is better than 170 for 8 in 20.

    I'd understand it in league cricket where there a certain number of overs for the match (e.g. 100) and you have up to 50 batting first. There your opponents get extra if you are bowled out. But not in T20 etc
    Not always it’s not, depends on the competition - and if you end up with a rain-affected game you can be screwed if you’ve lost wickets early.
    Rain affected matches losing wickets in the chase is significant for sure, but I stand by my initial contention. I believe that the 'use all your overs' is an outdated bit of cricket lore, similar to always batting first in tests, enforcing the follow on etc.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,021
    2+2=5, for large enough values of 2.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 29,999

    I decided to not use that Farage photo. You can all thank me now.

    Leon has been banging on about lab leaks all day so there is no doubt that as a collective we deserved the Farage picture punishment.
    I've done much better, I've forward his comments to Jeremy Farrar and his lawyers.
    I hope Anthony Fauci doesn't read PB, although I am sure he does, and his lawyers might be busy with a couple of poster too.
  • Talking of yougov:

    YouGov@YouGov
    ·
    24m
    Disapproval in the government reaches its highest level since the election

    Approve: 16% (-4 from 18-20 Jan)
    Disapprove: 64% (+4)
    Net: -48 (-8)
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 125,632
    edited January 28
    I doubt there will be a merger. The 2 parties disagree on some issues like staying in the ECHR and some Tories would go LD if they merged with Reform while some Reform voters would go off to Tommy Robinson backed UKIP if they merged with the Tories.
    Indeed in neither the Conservatives nor Reform do a majority of their voters back such a merger.

    If we had PR of course there would be no need to even consider it, both parties would get MPs directly equating to their voteshare and could come together post election to try and form a government if combined they had a majority. Even AV or second ballot would allow those who wanted to vote Tory or Reform first and the other second. Only FPTP makes it a consideration but even then a pact would probably be better, let Reform concentrate on seats they won or were second in 2024 and let the Tories focus on seats they won or were second in 2024
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 61,872
    "I've got the brains, you've got the brawn.. I've got lots of money (from Ladbrokes) "
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,942
    Nigelb said:

    If you were Taiwan/TSMC, how would you react to this "incentive" ?

    Donald Trump announced that he plans to impose massive tariffs on Taiwan-made chips:

    “We do not want to give them billions of dollars like this ridiculous program that Biden has given everybody billions of dollars.”

    https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1884102779737890922

    The smart Trump move would be to wait until the US was able to make enough of its own chips. There are signs that, thanks to "Biden's ridiculous programme", this could happen at some point - but not yet. Still, if the US does not want Taiwan's chips I am pretty sure others will take them.

  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,942

    Talking of yougov:

    YouGov@YouGov
    ·
    24m
    Disapproval in the government reaches its highest level since the election

    Approve: 16% (-4 from 18-20 Jan)
    Disapprove: 64% (+4)
    Net: -48 (-8)

    And yet ...

    Latest YouGov Westminster voting intention (26-27 Jan)

    Lab: 27% (+1 from 20-21 Jan)
    Ref: 23% (-1)
    Con: 22% (=)
    Lib Dem: 14% (=)
    Green: 9% (=)
    SNP: 3% (=)

  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 43,914

    I decided to not use that Farage photo. You can all thank me now.

    I clicked with enormous trepidation and the relief was so overwhelming it was hard to distinguish it from joy.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 29,999
    Nigelb said:

    If you were Taiwan/TSMC, how would you react to this "incentive" ?

    Donald Trump announced that he plans to impose massive tariffs on Taiwan-made chips:

    “We do not want to give them billions of dollars like this ridiculous program that Biden has given everybody billions of dollars.”

    https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1884102779737890922

    It's like he might be really, really thick or he's an agent of Ch-yna.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 29,999

    Talking of yougov:

    YouGov@YouGov
    ·
    24m
    Disapproval in the government reaches its highest level since the election

    Approve: 16% (-4 from 18-20 Jan)
    Disapprove: 64% (+4)
    Net: -48 (-8)

    Thank you for clarifying that minus four plus minus four is minus eight.

    In a nominally better (within MoE) poll for Labour you found your silver lining. Well done!
  • mwadamsmwadams Posts: 3,741

    Talking of yougov:

    YouGov@YouGov
    ·
    24m
    Disapproval in the government reaches its highest level since the election

    Approve: 16% (-4 from 18-20 Jan)
    Disapprove: 64% (+4)
    Net: -48 (-8)

    And yet ...

    Latest YouGov Westminster voting intention (26-27 Jan)

    Lab: 27% (+1 from 20-21 Jan)
    Ref: 23% (-1)
    Con: 22% (=)
    Lib Dem: 14% (=)
    Green: 9% (=)
    SNP: 3% (=)

    I would be in the "disapprove" of the government category, and yet (if I was still in my old constituency) would still be voting Labour. On the other hand, I am now in a different constituency, and would be holding my nose and voting for the Yellow Peril. So I'd look like a Lab->LibDem switcher in a voting intention poll, whereas I am in fact a tactical anti-Tory/Reform voter.
  • glwglw Posts: 10,169
    Nigelb said:

    If you were Taiwan/TSMC, how would you react to this "incentive" ?

    Donald Trump announced that he plans to impose massive tariffs on Taiwan-made chips:

    “We do not want to give them billions of dollars like this ridiculous program that Biden has given everybody billions of dollars.”

    https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1884102779737890922

    I sure as hell wouldn't have my leading edge process up and running in the US that's for sure. Way too easy for a dumbass like Trump to then say "we don't care about Taiwan anymore". No, TSMC need to keep their crown jewels in Taiwan. If anything they should scale down their plans for the US to make the US a bit more dependent on manufacturing in Taiwan, not even n-1 running in the US, keep them two generations behind.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,850
    My sweet balls are running all over the shop today.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,021
    edited January 28
    To be fair to England 171 in 20ovs isn’t a bad score, but you really shouldn’t be relying on your bowlers to score the runs at the death. Well done to Adil Rashid and Mark Wood.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 74,153

    Nigelb said:

    If you were Taiwan/TSMC, how would you react to this "incentive" ?

    Donald Trump announced that he plans to impose massive tariffs on Taiwan-made chips:

    “We do not want to give them billions of dollars like this ridiculous program that Biden has given everybody billions of dollars.”

    https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1884102779737890922

    The smart Trump move would be to wait until the US was able to make enough of its own chips. There are signs that, thanks to "Biden's ridiculous programme", this could happen at some point - but not yet. Still, if the US does not want Taiwan's chips I am pretty sure others will take them.

    That would be quite a long wait.
    His third term, perhaps ?
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,021

    Nigelb said:

    If you were Taiwan/TSMC, how would you react to this "incentive" ?

    Donald Trump announced that he plans to impose massive tariffs on Taiwan-made chips:

    “We do not want to give them billions of dollars like this ridiculous program that Biden has given everybody billions of dollars.”

    https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1884102779737890922

    The smart Trump move would be to wait until the US was able to make enough of its own chips. There are signs that, thanks to "Biden's ridiculous programme", this could happen at some point - but not yet. Still, if the US does not want Taiwan's chips I am pretty sure others will take them.
    Yeah Trump got that one wrong, he doesn’t understand the timescales of chip plant construction.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 74,153

    My sweet balls are running all over the shop today.

    That could be either a minor, or very serious accident indeed.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 125,632
    HYUFD said:

    I doubt there will be a merger. The 2 parties disagree on some issues like staying in the ECHR and some Tories would go LD if they merged with Reform while some Reform voters would go off to Tommy Robinson backed UKIP if they merged with the Tories.
    Indeed in neither the Conservatives nor Reform do a majority of their voters back such a merger.

    If we had PR of course there would be no need to even consider it, both parties would get MPs directly equating to their voteshare and could come together post election to try and form a government if combined they had a majority. Even AV or second ballot would allow those who wanted to vote Tory or Reform first and the other second. Only FPTP makes it a consideration but even then a pact would probably be better, let Reform concentrate on seats they won or were second in 2024 and let the Tories focus on seats they won or were second in 2024

    There are also a few constituencies like my own of Brentwood and Ongar where the Conservatives and Reform made up the top 2 at the last GE, so rather than talk of a merger they are in direct competition anyway with each other with Labour and the LDs also rans
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 125,632

    Talking of yougov:

    YouGov@YouGov
    ·
    24m
    Disapproval in the government reaches its highest level since the election

    Approve: 16% (-4 from 18-20 Jan)
    Disapprove: 64% (+4)
    Net: -48 (-8)

    And yet ...

    Latest YouGov Westminster voting intention (26-27 Jan)

    Lab: 27% (+1 from 20-21 Jan)
    Ref: 23% (-1)
    Con: 22% (=)
    Lib Dem: 14% (=)
    Green: 9% (=)
    SNP: 3% (=)

    27% is the same voteshare Michael Foot's Labour Party got in 1983 when they lost by a landslide, it might scrape Labour back into power now with a divided right due to FPTP but isn't much to shout about
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 125,632
    DougSeal said:

    Talking of yougov:

    YouGov@YouGov
    ·
    24m
    Disapproval in the government reaches its highest level since the election

    Approve: 16% (-4 from 18-20 Jan)
    Disapprove: 64% (+4)
    Net: -48 (-8)

    And yet ...

    Latest YouGov Westminster voting intention (26-27 Jan)

    Lab: 27% (+1 from 20-21 Jan)
    Ref: 23% (-1)
    Con: 22% (=)
    Lib Dem: 14% (=)
    Green: 9% (=)
    SNP: 3% (=)

    I increasingly get the impression that all parties listed here are now attracting little more than their core vote.
    Except Reform and to a lesser extent the Greens
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 29,999
    carnforth said:
    Makes our 0.1% expansion seem all the more impressive.

    (Tin hat in place)
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 43,914

    Nigelb said:

    If you were Taiwan/TSMC, how would you react to this "incentive" ?

    Donald Trump announced that he plans to impose massive tariffs on Taiwan-made chips:

    “We do not want to give them billions of dollars like this ridiculous program that Biden has given everybody billions of dollars.”

    https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1884102779737890922

    It's like he might be really, really thick or he's an agent of Ch-yna.
    He's out of his depth, is the bottom line. Thinks Real Estate experience scales up to governing the USA and big ticket geopolitics.

    It's a case of Donald from Foxtons.
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,942
    HYUFD said:

    Talking of yougov:

    YouGov@YouGov
    ·
    24m
    Disapproval in the government reaches its highest level since the election

    Approve: 16% (-4 from 18-20 Jan)
    Disapprove: 64% (+4)
    Net: -48 (-8)

    And yet ...

    Latest YouGov Westminster voting intention (26-27 Jan)

    Lab: 27% (+1 from 20-21 Jan)
    Ref: 23% (-1)
    Con: 22% (=)
    Lib Dem: 14% (=)
    Green: 9% (=)
    SNP: 3% (=)

    27% is the same voteshare Michael Foot's Labour Party got in 1983 when they lost by a landslide, it might scrape Labour back into power now with a divided right due to FPTP but isn't much to shout about

    Nothing to shout about? It's terrible. But Labour are ahead despite being immensely unpopular. That's the point.

  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 53,593
    edited January 28
    carnforth said:
    The cordon sanitaire between the AfD and the mainstream parties is breaking down with Friedrich Merz working with them to pass legislation to restrict migration, so for the first time it looks like a CDU/CSU/AfD coalition in some form is not impossible after the election.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,612
    carnforth said:
    It is a phenomenon universal across the narcissistic west that people ostentatiously proclaim their intention to leave when things don't go their way politically. Consider Leftie threats to leave post-Brexit, Rightists pretending to bolt for the door post-Starmer, Dems saying they'd clear out in 2000,2004,2016 and 2024 etc etc etc.

    The only people I know who have put their money where their mouth is in that respect is an Anglo-German couple of my acquaintance from Munich who have bought a bolt-hole in...Herne Bay. That shows both commitment and how bad things are perceived to be in Germany.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,086
    DougSeal said:

    Talking of yougov:

    YouGov@YouGov
    ·
    24m
    Disapproval in the government reaches its highest level since the election

    Approve: 16% (-4 from 18-20 Jan)
    Disapprove: 64% (+4)
    Net: -48 (-8)

    And yet ...

    Latest YouGov Westminster voting intention (26-27 Jan)

    Lab: 27% (+1 from 20-21 Jan)
    Ref: 23% (-1)
    Con: 22% (=)
    Lib Dem: 14% (=)
    Green: 9% (=)
    SNP: 3% (=)

    I increasingly get the impression that all parties listed here are now attracting little more than their core vote.
    I would say 14% is way in excess of the Lib Dem core vote, which is closer to 5-6% as we saw in the late coalition and early Corbyn years. MUch as it pains me to admit.

    The Green core vote may be even smaller. 3% perhaps? I would take the 8% LD excess over core vote and distribute about 4% to tactical voting, 4% to NOTA and centrist Tories. And take the 6% excess for the Greens and allocate it 4% to disgruntled BJO lefties, and 2% to vaguely NOTA voters who are in mid-term mode.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 29,999

    HYUFD said:

    Talking of yougov:

    YouGov@YouGov
    ·
    24m
    Disapproval in the government reaches its highest level since the election

    Approve: 16% (-4 from 18-20 Jan)
    Disapprove: 64% (+4)
    Net: -48 (-8)

    And yet ...

    Latest YouGov Westminster voting intention (26-27 Jan)

    Lab: 27% (+1 from 20-21 Jan)
    Ref: 23% (-1)
    Con: 22% (=)
    Lib Dem: 14% (=)
    Green: 9% (=)
    SNP: 3% (=)

    27% is the same voteshare Michael Foot's Labour Party got in 1983 when they lost by a landslide, it might scrape Labour back into power now with a divided right due to FPTP but isn't much to shout about

    Nothing to shout about? It's terrible. But Labour are ahead despite being immensely unpopular. That's the point.

    ...and as we were reminded by the PB faithful for many years, there is always swingback.
  • mwadamsmwadams Posts: 3,741
    TimS said:

    DougSeal said:

    Talking of yougov:

    YouGov@YouGov
    ·
    24m
    Disapproval in the government reaches its highest level since the election

    Approve: 16% (-4 from 18-20 Jan)
    Disapprove: 64% (+4)
    Net: -48 (-8)

    And yet ...

    Latest YouGov Westminster voting intention (26-27 Jan)

    Lab: 27% (+1 from 20-21 Jan)
    Ref: 23% (-1)
    Con: 22% (=)
    Lib Dem: 14% (=)
    Green: 9% (=)
    SNP: 3% (=)

    I increasingly get the impression that all parties listed here are now attracting little more than their core vote.
    I would say 14% is way in excess of the Lib Dem core vote, which is closer to 5-6% as we saw in the late coalition and early Corbyn years. MUch as it pains me to admit.

    The Green core vote may be even smaller. 3% perhaps? I would take the 8% LD excess over core vote and distribute about 4% to tactical voting, 4% to NOTA and centrist Tories. And take the 6% excess for the Greens and allocate it 4% to disgruntled BJO lefties, and 2% to vaguely NOTA voters who are in mid-term mode.
    For the Greens, there's a good share of not-high-propensity-to-vote young people, I would imagine.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 53,593

    carnforth said:
    Makes our 0.1% expansion seem all the more impressive.

    (Tin hat in place)
    We were probably lucky that Brexit helped us decouple a bit.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,086

    carnforth said:
    The cordon sanitaire between the AfD and the mainstream parties is breaking down with Friedrich Merz working with them to pass legislation to restrict migration, so for the first time it looks like a CDU/CSU/AfD coalition in some form is not impossible after the election.
    This is how it always works. The cordon sanitaire between extremists and "normal" parties breaks down easily when there is electoral or political advantage to be had. And Germany has 20th century precedent for that, as we know.
  • The ConForm party? ReVertatives? Refukories? Nah. Can't see it.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,911
    TimS said:

    DougSeal said:

    Talking of yougov:

    YouGov@YouGov
    ·
    24m
    Disapproval in the government reaches its highest level since the election

    Approve: 16% (-4 from 18-20 Jan)
    Disapprove: 64% (+4)
    Net: -48 (-8)

    And yet ...

    Latest YouGov Westminster voting intention (26-27 Jan)

    Lab: 27% (+1 from 20-21 Jan)
    Ref: 23% (-1)
    Con: 22% (=)
    Lib Dem: 14% (=)
    Green: 9% (=)
    SNP: 3% (=)

    I increasingly get the impression that all parties listed here are now attracting little more than their core vote.
    I would say 14% is way in excess of the Lib Dem core vote, which is closer to 5-6% as we saw in the late coalition and early Corbyn years. MUch as it pains me to admit.

    The Green core vote may be even smaller. 3% perhaps? I would take the 8% LD excess over core vote and distribute about 4% to tactical voting, 4% to NOTA and centrist Tories. And take the 6% excess for the Greens and allocate it 4% to disgruntled BJO lefties, and 2% to vaguely NOTA voters who are in mid-term mode.
    LibDems - Spinning Here!
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 9,106

    Nigelb said:

    If you were Taiwan/TSMC, how would you react to this "incentive" ?

    Donald Trump announced that he plans to impose massive tariffs on Taiwan-made chips:

    “We do not want to give them billions of dollars like this ridiculous program that Biden has given everybody billions of dollars.”

    https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1884102779737890922

    It's like he might be really, really thick or he's an agent of Ch-yna.
    Agent Orange?
  • Talking of yougov:

    YouGov@YouGov
    ·
    24m
    Disapproval in the government reaches its highest level since the election

    Approve: 16% (-4 from 18-20 Jan)
    Disapprove: 64% (+4)
    Net: -48 (-8)

    And yet ...

    Latest YouGov Westminster voting intention (26-27 Jan)

    Lab: 27% (+1 from 20-21 Jan)
    Ref: 23% (-1)
    Con: 22% (=)
    Lib Dem: 14% (=)
    Green: 9% (=)
    SNP: 3% (=)

    Yes, that was meant to be my next point, but I got distracted. Not inspiring for anyone really. Nor surprising.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 29,999

    carnforth said:
    Makes our 0.1% expansion seem all the more impressive.

    (Tin hat in place)
    We were probably lucky that Brexit helped us decouple a bit.
    I'll give you that as a win, you, you old Eurofederalist, you...
  • Just wanted to check, you can all see that BlueSky embed okay?

    As Elon has made it next to impossible to embed tweets in headers I am having to use BlueSky.

    BlueSky is underwhelming me. Because virtually no bike/running/extreme sports athletes or companies or vanners are really on there, I don't get a lot of content I'm interested in. Mostly just nerds telling me what book to read.
    It's all bit worthy and right on. That's something coming from an old green voting, vegan hippy like me!
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 53,593
    TimS said:

    carnforth said:
    The cordon sanitaire between the AfD and the mainstream parties is breaking down with Friedrich Merz working with them to pass legislation to restrict migration, so for the first time it looks like a CDU/CSU/AfD coalition in some form is not impossible after the election.
    This is how it always works. The cordon sanitaire between extremists and "normal" parties breaks down easily when there is electoral or political advantage to be had. And Germany has 20th century precedent for that, as we know.
    Yes, when the SPD went into coalition with people like Joschka Fischer it set a dangerous precedent.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,086
    edited January 28
    Just putting the latest YouGov through the old pre-election LLG vs RefCon filter and it’s:

    LLG 50
    RefCon 45

    That’s the best result for LLG in recent polls. I suspect the actual situation is closer to 50:50
  • Talking of yougov:

    YouGov@YouGov
    ·
    24m
    Disapproval in the government reaches its highest level since the election

    Approve: 16% (-4 from 18-20 Jan)
    Disapprove: 64% (+4)
    Net: -48 (-8)

    Thank you for clarifying that minus four plus minus four is minus eight.

    In a nominally better (within MoE) poll for Labour you found your silver lining. Well done!
    I think you are confusing me with yougov. If that is your main take, well done!
  • Cardiff University sets out proposals for 400 redundancies
  • eekeek Posts: 29,139
    edited January 28

    Cardiff University sets out proposals for 400 redundancies

    Courses being closed are Ancient history, modern languages and translation, music, nursing, and religion and theology subjects

    I can actually understand languages and especially translation - as Nick Palmer pointed out AI has already decimated that sector

    Yes I know that is going to trigger SeanT sorry
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,086
    edited January 28

    TimS said:

    carnforth said:
    The cordon sanitaire between the AfD and the mainstream parties is breaking down with Friedrich Merz working with them to pass legislation to restrict migration, so for the first time it looks like a CDU/CSU/AfD coalition in some form is not impossible after the election.
    This is how it always works. The cordon sanitaire between extremists and "normal" parties breaks down easily when there is electoral or political advantage to be had. And Germany has 20th century precedent for that, as we know.
    Yes, when the SPD went into coalition with people like Joschka Fischer it set a dangerous precedent.
    Is this ratchet number 8 on the William Glen “journey”?
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 23,708
    TimS said:

    Just putting the latest YouGov through the old pre-election LLG vs RefCon filter and it’s:

    LLG 50
    RefCon 45

    That’s the best result for LLG in recent polls. I suspect the actual situation is closer to 50:50

    I wonder if it is time for an article explaining why it is not a good idea to do this?
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 29,999
    kinabalu said:

    Nigelb said:

    If you were Taiwan/TSMC, how would you react to this "incentive" ?

    Donald Trump announced that he plans to impose massive tariffs on Taiwan-made chips:

    “We do not want to give them billions of dollars like this ridiculous program that Biden has given everybody billions of dollars.”

    https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1884102779737890922

    It's like he might be really, really thick or he's an agent of Ch-yna.
    He's out of his depth, is the bottom line. Thinks Real Estate experience scales up to governing the USA and big ticket geopolitics.

    It's a case of Donald from Foxtons.
    I am genuinely offended on behalf of women by the Rachel from accounts quip, although I found great heart from the Trump diapers narrative. A joke that directly insulted us old men, particularly any of those with incontinence issues. Still, it was Trump, onwards and upwards.
  • Just wanted to check, you can all see that BlueSky embed okay?

    As Elon has made it next to impossible to embed tweets in headers I am having to use BlueSky.

    BlueSky is underwhelming me. Because virtually no bike/running/extreme sports athletes or companies or vanners are really on there, I don't get a lot of content I'm interested in. Mostly just nerds telling me what book to read.
    It's all bit worthy and right on. That's something coming from an old green voting, vegan hippy like me!
    I am still using Twitter, but BlueSky is a lot easier to use from a technical perspective when it comes to headers.

    Elon has humped the pooch here.
  • eek said:

    Cardiff University sets out proposals for 400 redundancies

    Courses being closed are Ancient history, modern languages and translation, music, nursing, and religion and theology subjects

    I can actually understand languages and especially translation - as Nick Palmer pointed out AI has already decimated that sector

    Yes I know that is going to trigger SeanT sorry
    Is this budget related re NI ?
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 33,641
    Leon said:

    Goodbye Burma

    It’s been personal




    I have three jade bracelets from the Shan State. A 1930s Mandalay box. And a jar of sea salt from the Irrawaddy Delta

    I didn't expect you to stay there for such a long time. Maybe you're writing a book and it was a convenient place.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 43,914

    Talking of yougov:

    YouGov@YouGov
    ·
    24m
    Disapproval in the government reaches its highest level since the election

    Approve: 16% (-4 from 18-20 Jan)
    Disapprove: 64% (+4)
    Net: -48 (-8)

    And yet ...

    Latest YouGov Westminster voting intention (26-27 Jan)

    Lab: 27% (+1 from 20-21 Jan)
    Ref: 23% (-1)
    Con: 22% (=)
    Lib Dem: 14% (=)
    Green: 9% (=)
    SNP: 3% (=)

    Yes, that was meant to be my next point, but I got distracted. Not inspiring for anyone really. Nor surprising.
    It's just that we have a changed climate now. Reform have arrived and are polling 20ish so for Lab and Con high 20s to low 30s is solid. That range is the new high 30s to low 40s.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 125,632
    eek said:

    Cardiff University sets out proposals for 400 redundancies

    Courses being closed are Ancient history, modern languages and translation, music, nursing, and religion and theology subjects

    I can actually understand languages and especially translation - as Nick Palmer pointed out AI has already decimated that sector

    Yes I know that is going to trigger SeanT sorry
    Outrageous and cultural vandalism, all the above courses can be taught cheaply with fees of much less than £9k and would also then attract more students.

    Closing the nursing course will also be a disaster given the shortage we have of home produced nurses
  • Alphabet_SoupAlphabet_Soup Posts: 3,491

    Just wanted to check, you can all see that BlueSky embed okay?

    As Elon has made it next to impossible to embed tweets in headers I am having to use BlueSky.

    BlueSky is underwhelming me. Because virtually no bike/running/extreme sports athletes or companies or vanners are really on there, I don't get a lot of content I'm interested in. Mostly just nerds telling me what book to read.
    It's all bit worthy and right on. That's something coming from an old green voting, vegan hippy like me!
    Last month TwiX was entertaining me with a cavalcade of improbable football goals, which I rather enjoyed. This month they've given way to desperately poor people beating the crap out of each other. Am I on some sort of learning curve? What comes next?
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 9,106
    edited January 28
    TimS said:

    Just putting the latest YouGov through the old pre-election LLG vs RefCon filter and it’s:

    LLG 50
    RefCon 45

    That’s the best result for LLG in recent polls. I suspect the actual situation is closer to 50:50

    Bound to be 52-48 or the other way round :lol:
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,086

    TimS said:

    Just putting the latest YouGov through the old pre-election LLG vs RefCon filter and it’s:

    LLG 50
    RefCon 45

    That’s the best result for LLG in recent polls. I suspect the actual situation is closer to 50:50

    I wonder if it is time for an article explaining why it is not a good idea to do this?
    It’s certainly on topic.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 58,440
    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    Goodbye Burma

    It’s been personal




    I have three jade bracelets from the Shan State. A 1930s Mandalay box. And a jar of sea salt from the Irrawaddy Delta

    I didn't expect you to stay there for such a long time. Maybe you're writing a book and it was a convenient place.
    5 star hotels with brilliant food, pool and gym, sunshine and nice gin and tonics, for £45 a night?

    Yeah, I lingered. Great place to work as you guessed

    Quite pleased to be going tho. The crows freak me out
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 125,632

    carnforth said:
    The cordon sanitaire between the AfD and the mainstream parties is breaking down with Friedrich Merz working with them to pass legislation to restrict migration, so for the first time it looks like a CDU/CSU/AfD coalition in some form is not impossible after the election.
    They will work together on immigration but the CDU as a whole has ruled out forming a government with the AfD so it will almost certainly be another CDU and SPD grand coalition if the CDU/CSU top the poll
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 29,999
    eek said:

    Cardiff University sets out proposals for 400 redundancies

    Courses being closed are Ancient history, modern languages and translation, music, nursing, and religion and theology subjects

    I can actually understand languages and especially translation - as Nick Palmer pointed out AI has already decimated that sector

    Yes I know that is going to trigger SeanT sorry
    Nursing? How about that for joined up thinking?

    400 in a staff of thousands is less than anticipated.

    The courses are not the subjects that are chock a block with Johnny Foreigner students either. Surprisingly. Maybe that comes later.
  • eekeek Posts: 29,139

    eek said:

    Cardiff University sets out proposals for 400 redundancies

    Courses being closed are Ancient history, modern languages and translation, music, nursing, and religion and theology subjects

    I can actually understand languages and especially translation - as Nick Palmer pointed out AI has already decimated that sector

    Yes I know that is going to trigger SeanT sorry
    Is this budget related re NI ?
    £30m budget deficit - that’s more than the NI increase
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 74,153

    Just wanted to check, you can all see that BlueSky embed okay?

    As Elon has made it next to impossible to embed tweets in headers I am having to use BlueSky.

    So long as Farage doesn't have a bluesky account where he posts his 'casual trousers' pictures, I'm fine with that.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 29,999

    eek said:

    Cardiff University sets out proposals for 400 redundancies

    Courses being closed are Ancient history, modern languages and translation, music, nursing, and religion and theology subjects

    I can actually understand languages and especially translation - as Nick Palmer pointed out AI has already decimated that sector

    Yes I know that is going to trigger SeanT sorry
    Is this budget related re NI ?
    No. Related at least in part to your Government curtailing direct dependents of students receiving visas in order to counter the small boats problem. But stick to NI if you like.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 5,237
    edited January 28

    TimS said:

    carnforth said:
    The cordon sanitaire between the AfD and the mainstream parties is breaking down with Friedrich Merz working with them to pass legislation to restrict migration, so for the first time it looks like a CDU/CSU/AfD coalition in some form is not impossible after the election.
    This is how it always works. The cordon sanitaire between extremists and "normal" parties breaks down easily when there is electoral or political advantage to be had. And Germany has 20th century precedent for that, as we know.
    Yes, when the SPD went into coalition with people like Joschka Fischer it set a dangerous precedent.
    Wikipedia for him links me to this, one of his side gigs:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liechtenstein_Institute_on_Self-Determination

    It tickles me.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 58,440
    Leon said:

    Goodbye Burma

    It’s been personal




    I have three jade bracelets from the Shan State. A 1930s Mandalay box. And a jar of sea salt from the Irrawaddy Delta

    I don’t like to boast - it’s not my style - but that’s a pretty amazing photo I took at Shwedagon. Only just noticed
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 74,153

    Just wanted to check, you can all see that BlueSky embed okay?

    As Elon has made it next to impossible to embed tweets in headers I am having to use BlueSky.

    BlueSky is underwhelming me. Because virtually no bike/running/extreme sports athletes or companies or vanners are really on there, I don't get a lot of content I'm interested in. Mostly just nerds telling me what book to read.
    It's all bit worthy and right on. That's something coming from an old green voting, vegan hippy like me!
    Work in progress, I think ?
    I'm keeping an eye on it, as if enough interesting stuff migrates, it might save a lot of time.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 29,999
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Goodbye Burma

    It’s been personal




    I have three jade bracelets from the Shan State. A 1930s Mandalay box. And a jar of sea salt from the Irrawaddy Delta

    I don’t like to boast - it’s not my style - but that’s a pretty amazing photo I took at Shwedagon. Only just noticed
    Are their spires all like the one in Chesterfield, or had you had a beer or two when you took the photo?
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 19,103
    edited January 28
    The implication of the figures in the header is that it's easier to merge Reform/Tories by turning Tory voters into Reform voters, than vice versa. If that happens it puts the residual Tory vote in a bit of a tight spot. Do they vote tactically for Reform to turf out Labour?

    In weather news, I've now recorded more rain this January in West Cork (212mm) than seen in the record January month of 2014 in the England & Wales Precipitation series (184.6mm). But it's not seemed that wet here - I've mostly been walking around in shorts and sandals. I guess that means I've acclimatised.
  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 14,645

    Nigelb said:

    If you were Taiwan/TSMC, how would you react to this "incentive" ?

    Donald Trump announced that he plans to impose massive tariffs on Taiwan-made chips:

    “We do not want to give them billions of dollars like this ridiculous program that Biden has given everybody billions of dollars.”

    https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1884102779737890922

    It's like he might be really, really thick or he's an agent of Ch-yna.
    It is interesting how he seems to have changed a full 180 degrees on China. Maybe he is the US Presidential equivalent of @williamglenn, or ridiculously thick or some other reason. Maybe China has bought some videos from Moscow. Who knows.
  • HYUFD said:

    eek said:

    Cardiff University sets out proposals for 400 redundancies

    Courses being closed are Ancient history, modern languages and translation, music, nursing, and religion and theology subjects

    I can actually understand languages and especially translation - as Nick Palmer pointed out AI has already decimated that sector

    Yes I know that is going to trigger SeanT sorry
    Outrageous and cultural vandalism, all the above courses can be taught cheaply with fees of much less than £9k and would also then attract more students.

    Closing the nursing course will also be a disaster given the shortage we have of home produced nurses
    I remember the time when nurses didn't need a university degree, same with policemen
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,850
    edited January 28
    DougSeal said:

    Talking of yougov:

    YouGov@YouGov
    ·
    24m
    Disapproval in the government reaches its highest level since the election

    Approve: 16% (-4 from 18-20 Jan)
    Disapprove: 64% (+4)
    Net: -48 (-8)

    And yet ...

    Latest YouGov Westminster voting intention (26-27 Jan)

    Lab: 27% (+1 from 20-21 Jan)
    Ref: 23% (-1)
    Con: 22% (=)
    Lib Dem: 14% (=)
    Green: 9% (=)
    SNP: 3% (=)

    I increasingly get the impression that all parties listed here are now attracting little more than their core vote.
    We need to consider - as it caused every sitting government (ROI coalition still only exception?) to lose election, even helped Trump over the line despite the mountain of unelectability he is - the impact of an historical erosion of incomes, still acting on the psyche of UK voters right now in all post election polling. In terms of cheesed off psyche from income erosion, it’s not something to become reset on General Election results or change of government. Cheesed off voters will blame any with or had power, and less established parties the beneficiaries in polling, is exactly what we would expect isn’t it?

    If polling companies getting increasing numbers saying D/K won’t vote, and don’t share this information, does it actually mislead us geeky Psephologists and political bettors?

    Say the answer back to the poll was Labour 13%, Con 10% Ref 9% don’t know wont say 57%, how would reading something like that actually change what you are thinking about it? The size of the number who recall voting Labour last July, or who answered as Labour in last general election polling, who don’t give another party name but answer don’t know, could be a crucial difference, how the table in your post would look very different, second guessing how lost to Labour their 2024 voters are.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,086

    The implication of the figures in the header is that it's easier to merge Reform/Tories by turning Tory voters into Reform voters, than vice versa. If that happens it puts the residual Tory vote in a bit of a tight spot. Do they vote tactically for Reform to turf out Labour?

    In weather news, I've now recorded more rain this January in West Cork (212mm) than seen in the record January month of 2014 in the England & Wales Precipitation series (184.6mm). But it's not seemed that wet here - I've mostly been walking around in shorts and sandals. I guess that means I've acclimatised.

    Similar story at the vineyard weather station. 142mm so far this month, despite there being a good week and a half of dry settled weather in the middle of the month.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 25,233
    Nigelb said:

    Just wanted to check, you can all see that BlueSky embed okay?

    As Elon has made it next to impossible to embed tweets in headers I am having to use BlueSky.

    BlueSky is underwhelming me. Because virtually no bike/running/extreme sports athletes or companies or vanners are really on there, I don't get a lot of content I'm interested in. Mostly just nerds telling me what book to read.
    It's all bit worthy and right on. That's something coming from an old green voting, vegan hippy like me!
    Work in progress, I think ?
    I'm keeping an eye on it, as if enough interesting stuff migrates, it might save a lot of time.
    Give it 6 months, I think - it was only opened up post-initial-trial last September.

    A lot of people have placeholders.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 29,367

    First not like NVidia

    Panic over. My savings have recovered the £9k they dropped yesterday. Sometimes I think these City types are not quite as clever as they'd have us believe.
  • FossFoss Posts: 1,237

    DougSeal said:

    Talking of yougov:

    YouGov@YouGov
    ·
    24m
    Disapproval in the government reaches its highest level since the election

    Approve: 16% (-4 from 18-20 Jan)
    Disapprove: 64% (+4)
    Net: -48 (-8)

    And yet ...

    Latest YouGov Westminster voting intention (26-27 Jan)

    Lab: 27% (+1 from 20-21 Jan)
    Ref: 23% (-1)
    Con: 22% (=)
    Lib Dem: 14% (=)
    Green: 9% (=)
    SNP: 3% (=)

    I increasingly get the impression that all parties listed here are now attracting little more than their core vote.
    We need to consider - as it caused every sitting government (ROI coalition still only exception?) to lose election, even helped Trump over the line despite the mountain of unelectability he is - the impact of an historical erosion of incomes, still acting on the psyche of UK voters right now in all post election polling. In terms of cheesed of psyche from income erosion, it’s not something to become reset on General Election results or change of government. Cheesed off voters will blame any with or had power, and less established parties the beneficiaries in polling, is exactly what we would expect isn’t it?

    If polling companies getting increasing numbers saying D/K won’t vote, and don’t share this information, does it actually mislead us geeky Psephologists and political bettors?

    Say the answer back to the poll was Labour 13%, Con 10% Ref 9% don’t know wont say 57%, how would reading something like that actually change what you are thinking about it? The size of the number who recall voting Labour last July, or who answered as Labour in last general election polling, who don’t give another party name but answer don’t know, could be a crucial difference, how the table in your post would look very different, second guessing how lost to Labour their 2024 voters are.
    If you dig into the tables there's usually a full set of results (inc D/K) and then the headline results that are usually shared here. Proper turnout estimates would be nice tho'.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 125,632

    HYUFD said:

    eek said:

    Cardiff University sets out proposals for 400 redundancies

    Courses being closed are Ancient history, modern languages and translation, music, nursing, and religion and theology subjects

    I can actually understand languages and especially translation - as Nick Palmer pointed out AI has already decimated that sector

    Yes I know that is going to trigger SeanT sorry
    Outrageous and cultural vandalism, all the above courses can be taught cheaply with fees of much less than £9k and would also then attract more students.

    Closing the nursing course will also be a disaster given the shortage we have of home produced nurses
    I remember the time when nurses didn't need a university degree, same with policemen
    Indeed but you need one to be a nurse now certainly, it is not required to be a police officer but common certainly in senior ranks
  • eek said:

    Cardiff University sets out proposals for 400 redundancies

    Courses being closed are Ancient history, modern languages and translation, music, nursing, and religion and theology subjects

    I can actually understand languages and especially translation - as Nick Palmer pointed out AI has already decimated that sector

    Yes I know that is going to trigger SeanT sorry
    Is this budget related re NI ?
    No. Related at least in part to your Government curtailing direct dependents of students receiving visas in order to counter the small boats problem. But stick to NI if you like.
    In case you forgot it is Labour in charge now and in Wales has been for 25 years

    I asked if it was NI related and @Eek provided the answer
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 125,632

    The implication of the figures in the header is that it's easier to merge Reform/Tories by turning Tory voters into Reform voters, than vice versa. If that happens it puts the residual Tory vote in a bit of a tight spot. Do they vote tactically for Reform to turf out Labour?

    In weather news, I've now recorded more rain this January in West Cork (212mm) than seen in the record January month of 2014 in the England & Wales Precipitation series (184.6mm). But it's not seemed that wet here - I've mostly been walking around in shorts and sandals. I guess that means I've acclimatised.

    In seats where Reform were second to Labour at the last GE maybe not otherwise. Indeed in Tory v LD marginals Reform are usually well behind in 3rd or 4th
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,021
    Boom Supersonic test flight about to happen.

    Potentially the first supersonic private aircraft since Concorde retired two decades ago.

    https://x.com/boomaero/status/1884261519455838235
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,612
    edited January 28

    HYUFD said:

    eek said:

    Cardiff University sets out proposals for 400 redundancies

    Courses being closed are Ancient history, modern languages and translation, music, nursing, and religion and theology subjects

    I can actually understand languages and especially translation - as Nick Palmer pointed out AI has already decimated that sector

    Yes I know that is going to trigger SeanT sorry
    Outrageous and cultural vandalism, all the above courses can be taught cheaply with fees of much less than £9k and would also then attract more students.

    Closing the nursing course will also be a disaster given the shortage we have of home produced nurses
    I remember the time when nurses didn't need a university degree, same with policemen
    Many professions, including nursing and the solicitor side of law, are emphasising non-degree routes these days. They've always been possible in both those professions, just de-emphasised over the last 50-60 years or so. Similarly the police have two entry routes, one for graduates, one that doesn't need a degree.

    EDIT just to say that nurses have had to study for a degree LEVEL qualification since 2013. Many courses are more akin to apprentices though. Sorry for the confusion.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 25,233
    edited January 28

    Cardiff University sets out proposals for 400 redundancies

    Workforce is just over 7k, with a 50/50 academic/administrative split.

    Is there a breakdown of the numbers?

    TBH it sounds like a pinprick - although I'm sure various pols will be claiming to have parented kittens.

    A few years before I started University in the 1980s, Mrs Thatcher cut the University's central funding by 30% (also Aston, Salford as industrial enthusiast Maggie cut the industrial universities hardest), and they lost some core courses.

    https://www.bradford.ac.uk/library/special-collections/our-collections/university-of-bradford-archive/

  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 74,153
    Sandpit said:

    Boom Supersonic test flight about to happen.

    Potentially the first supersonic private aircraft since Concorde retired two decades ago.

    https://x.com/boomaero/status/1884261519455838235

    Concorde was civil, rather than private, being an Anglo/French government project.
    There was an interesting thread on the lessons they'd learned from the prototype.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 29,999
    edited January 28

    eek said:

    Cardiff University sets out proposals for 400 redundancies

    Courses being closed are Ancient history, modern languages and translation, music, nursing, and religion and theology subjects

    I can actually understand languages and especially translation - as Nick Palmer pointed out AI has already decimated that sector

    Yes I know that is going to trigger SeanT sorry
    Is this budget related re NI ?
    No. Related at least in part to your Government curtailing direct dependents of students receiving visas in order to counter the small boats problem. But stick to NI if you like.
    In case you forgot it is Labour in charge now and in Wales has been for 25 years

    I asked if it was NI related and @Eek provided the answer
    You didn't understand my point. The crisis in the university sector in the UK has been exacerbated by the Government removing visas from the dependents of students. They are thus going elsewhere in the World, where they can take their families. For right or for wrong that was a deliberate policy and the inevitable chickens are coming home to roost. Labour could of course reverse this if they weren't frightened of Farage.

    The Government should investigate how to resolve the university crisis as the sector is/was a massive money spinner and employer.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,091

    eek said:

    Cardiff University sets out proposals for 400 redundancies

    Courses being closed are Ancient history, modern languages and translation, music, nursing, and religion and theology subjects

    I can actually understand languages and especially translation - as Nick Palmer pointed out AI has already decimated that sector

    Yes I know that is going to trigger SeanT sorry
    Is this budget related re NI ?
    The NI increase costs Unis lots (and I have seen that it basically cancelled out the tiny rise in tuition fees). Reading their statements Cardiff is looking increase student/staff ratios. We've done that a lot at Bath already. I suspect a lot of the courses that are going are not bringing in the students. Mergers of departments as proposed can help with teaching - often similar courses are teaching the same material to two sets of students (basic principle, first year courses usually. For instance I teach nuclear magnetic resonance to pharmacy students, while someone else does to chemistry students and someone else does to biochemists. It could be done differently).
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,829

    First not like NVidia

    Panic over. My savings have recovered the £9k they dropped yesterday. Sometimes I think these City types are not quite as clever as they'd have us believe.
    Pension pot down a couple of thousand, the various index trackers all take a while to "catch up" though. It was at an ATH though and performing well.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,353

    Just wanted to check, you can all see that BlueSky embed okay?

    As Elon has made it next to impossible to embed tweets in headers I am having to use BlueSky.

    BlueSky is underwhelming me. Because virtually no bike/running/extreme sports athletes or companies or vanners are really on there, I don't get a lot of content I'm interested in. Mostly just nerds telling me what book to read.
    It's all bit worthy and right on. That's something coming from an old green voting, vegan hippy like me!
    Last month TwiX was entertaining me with a cavalcade of improbable football goals, which I rather enjoyed. This month they've given way to desperately poor people beating the crap out of each other. Am I on some sort of learning curve? What comes next?
    If you're going to be waylaid by people beating each other up you really need Steve Inman commentating.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 29,367
    MattW said:

    Cardiff University sets out proposals for 400 redundancies

    Workforce is just over 7k, with a 50/50 academic/administrative split.

    Is there a breakdown of the numbers?

    TBH it sounds like a pinprick - although I'm sure various pols will be claiming to have parented kittens.

    A few years before I started University in the 1980s, Mrs Thatcher cut the University's central funding by 30% (also Aston, Salford as industrial enthusiast Maggie cut the industrial universities hardest), and they lost some core courses.

    https://www.bradford.ac.uk/library/special-collections/our-collections/university-of-bradford-archive/

    The Thatcher government closed all of the small colleges in London University.
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