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  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 125,652
    edited January 27

    This will be the death knell for the Six Nations.

    Report claims TNT Sports set to take Six Nations behind paywall

    https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broadcasting/report-claims-tnt-sports-set-to-take-six-nations-behind-paywall/5201180.article

    Though the Six Nations has to show highlights on Freeview even if not a listed event by OFCOM like the football World Cup, FA Cup Final, Grand National, Rugby World Cup Final, Grand National and the Olympic Games and Wimbledon which must be shown live on Freeview
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,353
    HYUFD said:

    This will be the death knell for the Six Nations.

    Report claims TNT Sports set to take Six Nations behind paywall

    https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broadcasting/report-claims-tnt-sports-set-to-take-six-nations-behind-paywall/5201180.article

    Though the Six Nations has to show highlights on Freeview even if not a listed event by OFCOM like the football World Cup, FA Cup Final, Grand National, Rugby World Cup Final, Grand National and the Olympic Games and Wimbledon which must be shown live on Freeview
    And the Grand National.
  • Dura_Ace said:

    eek said:

    This will be the death knell for the Six Nations.

    Report claims TNT Sports set to take Six Nations behind paywall

    https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broadcasting/report-claims-tnt-sports-set-to-take-six-nations-behind-paywall/5201180.article

    It will be the death knell for Rugby Union...
    Whatever happened to that Premier League thing that Sky took off free to air? You never hear about it.
    There was still other competitions for the BBC/ITV to show back in 1992, with this deal fans of the men's home nations will only get to see their teams on free-to-air TV every four years at the world cup.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 29,999
    Taz said:

    eek said:

    This will be the death knell for the Six Nations.

    Report claims TNT Sports set to take Six Nations behind paywall

    https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broadcasting/report-claims-tnt-sports-set-to-take-six-nations-behind-paywall/5201180.article

    It will be the death knell for Rugby Union...
    Especially now the Autumn Internationals are all no longer free to air.
    It should be one of the Crown Jewel events. I suppose we'll still have the Women's Six Nations, Ladies Test Cricket and FA Cup for a while.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,092
    eek said:

    This will be the death knell for the Six Nations.

    Report claims TNT Sports set to take Six Nations behind paywall

    https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broadcasting/report-claims-tnt-sports-set-to-take-six-nations-behind-paywall/5201180.article

    It will be the death knell for Rugby Union...
    Ticket prices for 6N games and availability of tickets suggests not.
  • Taz said:

    eek said:

    This will be the death knell for the Six Nations.

    Report claims TNT Sports set to take Six Nations behind paywall

    https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broadcasting/report-claims-tnt-sports-set-to-take-six-nations-behind-paywall/5201180.article

    It will be the death knell for Rugby Union...
    Especially now the Autumn Internationals are all no longer free to air.
    It should be one of the Crown Jewel events. I suppose we'll still have the Women's Six Nations, Ladies Test Cricket and FA Cup for a while.
    Not the FA Cup.

    TNT have bagged the rights to the FA Cup from next season, although the BBC will still show 2 matches a round up to the semis, which is a big drop from the current contract.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,404

    Andy_JS said:

    SandraMc said:

    I've been watching 91-year-old Lord Heseltine on Politics Live. You may not agree with his views but he's still sharp.

    Even though I don't agree with a lot of what he says, I just automatically find him a lot more authoritative and charismatic than pretty much all current politicians.
    If the Tories adopted Hezza's narrative, including reviewing our relationship with the EU, they would win a landslide.
    Would they? How do you know?

    Andy_JS said:

    SandraMc said:

    I've been watching 91-year-old Lord Heseltine on Politics Live. You may not agree with his views but he's still sharp.

    Even though I don't agree with a lot of what he says, I just automatically find him a lot more authoritative and charismatic than pretty much all current politicians.
    If the Tories adopted Hezza's narrative, including reviewing our relationship with the EU, they would win a landslide.
    Would they? How do you know?
    They would win a landslide among people @Mexicanpete knows.
    Instinct. It is the only way they would get my vote and I am sure the centrist dad vote is more attainable than the Trump-lite vote.
    Ooh, memories of Tarzan swinging on his liana through the political jungle ... mm, you could well be right. As well as Right.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 29,999

    eek said:

    This will be the death knell for the Six Nations.

    Report claims TNT Sports set to take Six Nations behind paywall

    https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broadcasting/report-claims-tnt-sports-set-to-take-six-nations-behind-paywall/5201180.article

    It will be the death knell for Rugby Union...
    Ticket prices for 6N games and availability of tickets suggests not.
    I suspect the two operate hand in hand. Once the televised games are gone the live events will lose their magic over time.
  • TazTaz Posts: 16,612

    Taz said:

    eek said:

    This will be the death knell for the Six Nations.

    Report claims TNT Sports set to take Six Nations behind paywall

    https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broadcasting/report-claims-tnt-sports-set-to-take-six-nations-behind-paywall/5201180.article

    It will be the death knell for Rugby Union...
    Especially now the Autumn Internationals are all no longer free to air.
    It should be one of the Crown Jewel events. I suppose we'll still have the Women's Six Nations, Ladies Test Cricket and FA Cup for a while.
    Womens Six Nations is a work in progress. Too many one sided games at the moment. Although the lesser nations will catch up. I watch some Ladies rugby which promise to be close games but cricket score games I can do without
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,404

    Taz said:

    eek said:

    This will be the death knell for the Six Nations.

    Report claims TNT Sports set to take Six Nations behind paywall

    https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broadcasting/report-claims-tnt-sports-set-to-take-six-nations-behind-paywall/5201180.article

    It will be the death knell for Rugby Union...
    Especially now the Autumn Internationals are all no longer free to air.
    It should be one of the Crown Jewel events. I suppose we'll still have the Women's Six Nations, Ladies Test Cricket and FA Cup for a while.
    I thought for a moment you meant testicles, and then you said ...
  • MightyAlexMightyAlex Posts: 1,742
    Dura_Ace said:

    viewcode said:

    Nigelb said:

    viewcode said:

    Here's a nasty thought: F35s can be disabled remotely by the Americans. Including ours.

    https://nitter.poast.org/ValkStrategy/status/1882991687519355344#m

    (Tyler Rogoway is a journalist for TheWarZone, Bill Sweetman is the author of "Trillion Dollar Trainwreck" about the F35)

    That's not what he said.
    The actual quote was "they won't fly without support", which isn't the same thing at all.
    You need a computer file from me to get into your house. I decide not to give you a copy. Where are you sleeping tonight?

    (They enshittified the RAF. David Ricardo is an idiot)
    The US forced the UK to put their F-35 data management office inside Elgin AFB in Florida. Presumably so they can keep very close tabs on what's going on and stamp out any incipient autonomy.

    I suppose it's worked out well for the people who work there. Logically, they should be with the aircraft at RAF Marham in Norfolk - "The Wales of the East".

    No. 17 Squadron are also forbidden from moving their test aircraft outside the US. So they have to rough it at Edwards AFB in California.

    Fucking hell we bought a PAAS.

    Does this mean if someone destroyed Elgin the planes wouldn't fly?
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 29,999

    Taz said:

    eek said:

    This will be the death knell for the Six Nations.

    Report claims TNT Sports set to take Six Nations behind paywall

    https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broadcasting/report-claims-tnt-sports-set-to-take-six-nations-behind-paywall/5201180.article

    It will be the death knell for Rugby Union...
    Especially now the Autumn Internationals are all no longer free to air.
    It should be one of the Crown Jewel events. I suppose we'll still have the Women's Six Nations, Ladies Test Cricket and FA Cup for a while.
    Not the FA Cup.

    TNT have bagged the rights to the FA Cup from next season, although the BBC will still show 2 matches a round up to the semis, which is a big drop from the current contract.
    Sorry I should have been more precise., Ladies's FA cup.
  • TazTaz Posts: 16,612

    eek said:

    This will be the death knell for the Six Nations.

    Report claims TNT Sports set to take Six Nations behind paywall

    https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broadcasting/report-claims-tnt-sports-set-to-take-six-nations-behind-paywall/5201180.article

    It will be the death knell for Rugby Union...
    Ticket prices for 6N games and availability of tickets suggests not.
    I suspect the two operate hand in hand. Once the televised games are gone the live events will lose their magic over time.
    Similar to what has happened to the European competitions.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 43,920

    kinabalu said:

    Anyhoo if I was Kemi Badenoch I would be flooding the airwaves, social media, and GB News about Farage wanting the UK to take back Shamima Begum because Don told him.

    And I see Nigel is also fawning over his tormentor, Elon, because 'he kind of makes us look cool'. Are Nigel's political instincts not as sharp as they used to be or has Donald's resurrection shattered his world?
    The last Musk/Farage news I heard was Farage calling for Musk to take down terrorist material that Axel Rudakubana viewed. That doesn't strike me as fawning.
    Hardly sounds like Nigel launched a crusade to have it removed. It's more that he blurted his plea out in panic as a response to an LBC gotcha attempt.

    Asked on LBC whether X should take down the video, Farage said: “All terrorist material, of course, should be taken down.”

    He added: “If you tell me it’s still there, it should come down. Of course it should.”


    https://www.gbnews.com/politics/axel-rudakabuna-nigel-farage-elon-musk-x
    That's the Jezza 'do you condemn Hamas terrorism?' formulation.
    Elon is, of course, a self-proclaimed 'free-speech absolutist', so it was probably an attempt to drive a wedge between the two men, painting Nigel as a boring old centrist-dad character who doesn't mind a bit of censorship. The public will probably side with Nigel on this, but it'll be interesting to see how Elon responds to such a flagrant repudiation of his credo.
    The big softy is also against the death penalty. He's going to lose his base if he's not careful.

    "I haven't left the far right. The far right have left me."
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 29,999
    Carnyx said:

    Taz said:

    eek said:

    This will be the death knell for the Six Nations.

    Report claims TNT Sports set to take Six Nations behind paywall

    https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broadcasting/report-claims-tnt-sports-set-to-take-six-nations-behind-paywall/5201180.article

    It will be the death knell for Rugby Union...
    Especially now the Autumn Internationals are all no longer free to air.
    It should be one of the Crown Jewel events. I suppose we'll still have the Women's Six Nations, Ladies Test Cricket and FA Cup for a while.
    I thought for a moment you meant testicles, and then you said ...
    No "crown jewels" in women's rugby, certainly now Trump is President.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,092

    eek said:

    This will be the death knell for the Six Nations.

    Report claims TNT Sports set to take Six Nations behind paywall

    https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broadcasting/report-claims-tnt-sports-set-to-take-six-nations-behind-paywall/5201180.article

    It will be the death knell for Rugby Union...
    Ticket prices for 6N games and availability of tickets suggests not.
    I suspect the two operate hand in hand. Once the televised games are gone the live events will lose their magic over time.
    I doubt it. International rugby and the 6N is not dependent on free to air TV, its part of the rugby culture.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 43,920

    Taz said:

    eek said:

    This will be the death knell for the Six Nations.

    Report claims TNT Sports set to take Six Nations behind paywall

    https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broadcasting/report-claims-tnt-sports-set-to-take-six-nations-behind-paywall/5201180.article

    It will be the death knell for Rugby Union...
    Especially now the Autumn Internationals are all no longer free to air.
    It should be one of the Crown Jewel events. I suppose we'll still have the Women's Six Nations, Ladies Test Cricket and FA Cup for a while.
    They showed the world indoor bowls at the weekend. Not just recorded highlights either. Live.
  • TazTaz Posts: 16,612
    kinabalu said:

    Taz said:

    eek said:

    This will be the death knell for the Six Nations.

    Report claims TNT Sports set to take Six Nations behind paywall

    https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broadcasting/report-claims-tnt-sports-set-to-take-six-nations-behind-paywall/5201180.article

    It will be the death knell for Rugby Union...
    Especially now the Autumn Internationals are all no longer free to air.
    It should be one of the Crown Jewel events. I suppose we'll still have the Women's Six Nations, Ladies Test Cricket and FA Cup for a while.
    They showed the world indoor bowls at the weekend. Not just recorded highlights either. Live.
    Was Barry from Eastenders there singing ?
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  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 9,868
    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    Anyhoo if I was Kemi Badenoch I would be flooding the airwaves, social media, and GB News about Farage wanting the UK to take back Shamima Begum because Don told him.

    And I see Nigel is also fawning over his tormentor, Elon, because 'he kind of makes us look cool'. Are Nigel's political instincts not as sharp as they used to be or has Donald's resurrection shattered his world?
    The last Musk/Farage news I heard was Farage calling for Musk to take down terrorist material that Axel Rudakubana viewed. That doesn't strike me as fawning.
    Hardly sounds like Nigel launched a crusade to have it removed. It's more that he blurted his plea out in panic as a response to an LBC gotcha attempt.

    Asked on LBC whether X should take down the video, Farage said: “All terrorist material, of course, should be taken down.”

    He added: “If you tell me it’s still there, it should come down. Of course it should.”


    https://www.gbnews.com/politics/axel-rudakabuna-nigel-farage-elon-musk-x
    That's the Jezza 'do you condemn Hamas terrorism?' formulation.
    Elon is, of course, a self-proclaimed 'free-speech absolutist', so it was probably an attempt to drive a wedge between the two men, painting Nigel as a boring old centrist-dad character who doesn't mind a bit of censorship. The public will probably side with Nigel on this, but it'll be interesting to see how Elon responds to such a flagrant repudiation of his credo.
    The big softy is also against the death penalty. He's going to lose his base if he's not careful.

    "I haven't left the far right. The far right have left me."
    Nigel's nightmare must be that Donald calls on the UK to join a US trading block and impose tariffs on the EU. Of course, Donald would see no issues, but that would be an incredibly difficult sell for Nigel. How would he do it without looking like a treasonous convert to Europhilia in his supporters' eyes?
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,127
    Dura_Ace said:

    viewcode said:

    Nigelb said:

    viewcode said:

    Here's a nasty thought: F35s can be disabled remotely by the Americans. Including ours.

    https://nitter.poast.org/ValkStrategy/status/1882991687519355344#m

    (Tyler Rogoway is a journalist for TheWarZone, Bill Sweetman is the author of "Trillion Dollar Trainwreck" about the F35)

    That's not what he said.
    The actual quote was "they won't fly without support", which isn't the same thing at all.
    You need a computer file from me to get into your house. I decide not to give you a copy. Where are you sleeping tonight?

    (They enshittified the RAF. David Ricardo is an idiot)
    The US forced the UK to put their F-35 data management office inside Elgin AFB in Florida. Presumably so they can keep very close tabs on what's going on and stamp out any incipient autonomy.

    I suppose it's worked out well for the people who work there. Logically, they should be with the aircraft at RAF Marham in Norfolk - "The Wales of the East".

    No. 17 Squadron are also forbidden from moving their test aircraft outside the US. So they have to rough it at Edwards AFB in California.

    Sounds like a massive advert for buying European planes instead.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 74,156
    Dura_Ace said:

    eek said:

    This will be the death knell for the Six Nations.

    Report claims TNT Sports set to take Six Nations behind paywall

    https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broadcasting/report-claims-tnt-sports-set-to-take-six-nations-behind-paywall/5201180.article

    It will be the death knell for Rugby Union...
    Whatever happened to that Premier League thing that Sky took off free to air? You never hear about it.
    Almost true as far as I'm concerned.
  • boulayboulay Posts: 5,923
    CatMan said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    viewcode said:

    Nigelb said:

    viewcode said:

    Here's a nasty thought: F35s can be disabled remotely by the Americans. Including ours.

    https://nitter.poast.org/ValkStrategy/status/1882991687519355344#m

    (Tyler Rogoway is a journalist for TheWarZone, Bill Sweetman is the author of "Trillion Dollar Trainwreck" about the F35)

    That's not what he said.
    The actual quote was "they won't fly without support", which isn't the same thing at all.
    You need a computer file from me to get into your house. I decide not to give you a copy. Where are you sleeping tonight?

    (They enshittified the RAF. David Ricardo is an idiot)
    The US forced the UK to put their F-35 data management office inside Elgin AFB in Florida. Presumably so they can keep very close tabs on what's going on and stamp out any incipient autonomy.

    I suppose it's worked out well for the people who work there. Logically, they should be with the aircraft at RAF Marham in Norfolk - "The Wales of the East".

    No. 17 Squadron are also forbidden from moving their test aircraft outside the US. So they have to rough it at Edwards AFB in California.

    Sounds like a massive advert for buying European planes instead.
    The good thing about Covid and Ukraine is that we saw that countries like France and Germany would never put their interests in the way of us accessing kit or using kit as we choose if they decided otherwise.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 44,615
    Surprised the paedo-finder generals on here haven't been all over this story.

    "The seven members of one of Scotland's biggest child sex abuse rings have been given life-long sentences and warned that they may never be released."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2dxj570n21o
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,106
    kinabalu said:

    kinabalu said:

    Anyhoo if I was Kemi Badenoch I would be flooding the airwaves, social media, and GB News about Farage wanting the UK to take back Shamima Begum because Don told him.

    And I see Nigel is also fawning over his tormentor, Elon, because 'he kind of makes us look cool'. Are Nigel's political instincts not as sharp as they used to be or has Donald's resurrection shattered his world?
    The last Musk/Farage news I heard was Farage calling for Musk to take down terrorist material that Axel Rudakubana viewed. That doesn't strike me as fawning.
    Hardly sounds like Nigel launched a crusade to have it removed. It's more that he blurted his plea out in panic as a response to an LBC gotcha attempt.

    Asked on LBC whether X should take down the video, Farage said: “All terrorist material, of course, should be taken down.”

    He added: “If you tell me it’s still there, it should come down. Of course it should.”


    https://www.gbnews.com/politics/axel-rudakabuna-nigel-farage-elon-musk-x
    That's the Jezza 'do you condemn Hamas terrorism?' formulation.
    Elon is, of course, a self-proclaimed 'free-speech absolutist', so it was probably an attempt to drive a wedge between the two men, painting Nigel as a boring old centrist-dad character who doesn't mind a bit of censorship. The public will probably side with Nigel on this, but it'll be interesting to see how Elon responds to such a flagrant repudiation of his credo.
    The big softy is also against the death penalty. He's going to lose his base if he's not careful.

    "I haven't left the far right. The far right have left me."
    If he were being purely tactical, rather than ideological, then the arrival of Trump/Musk combined with the ongoing detoxification efforts of Le Pen and Meloni give him a once in a lifetime opportunity to reinvent himself as the cuddly moderate version of right wing populism and eat up the Tories simply by staying still while the Overton window drifts rightwards.
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