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politicalbetting.com » Blog Archive » The Shapps Tweet ad could be as damaging as Liam Byrne’s “there’s no money left” handover note
We all remember the famous Liam Byrne hand-over note in May 2010 telling his successor at the Treasury that there’s no money left. That struck home because it touched a widespread view of the LAB approach to public spending.
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Surely the truth is somewhere in the middle ?
You read it here first folks.
Computer, now with Windows 7, had some updates when I logged off and some reconfiguration when I turned back on. Fine, except that now popups (ads and sidebar 'related searches' now appear on politicalbetting, as well as the Diplomacy site and Youtube (and, I would guess, many others). Any suggestions for stopping this damned annoyance?
Edited extra bit: I also turned off redirecting automatically to another page, which apparently Firefox blocked for this site when I refreshed just now.
you are having a laugh surely or a troll....
barrel scraping.
As a final point, wouldn't "we" have been seen as more inauthentic than "they" is seen as patronising?
I suspect that most people do not remember that note. I wish that they did.
It's weird, after using Firefox for so long, but no popups.
I prefer Firefox... would uninstalling and reinstalling it be the way to go? Never tried Chrome.
Edited extra bit: and thanks very much for your help, incidentally.
Good news though to hear he has Cameron's full support as this means he will stay in place damaging Conservative election prospects .
On what planet..?
Hmmm..... I'll wait until a new thread comes along. Preferably with some polling on the budget. And bingo.
Whilst he's not exactly my cup of tea, the idea that he is some kind of campaigning buffoon really doesn't stand up when you look at his electoral record, does it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welwyn_Hatfield_(UK_Parliament_constituency)
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Not just because of the impression that the Tories are above you and I, but they've seriously let Labour off the hook. Team Ed were floundering yesterday and getting criticism from all sides for their obvious floundering on the economy. But thanks to Grant the narrative has changed and Labour have an angle. Could well be career-ending for him.
I'm afraid there is no beer.
kind regards -
and good luck!
Grant
Mr. D, ah, I hope you're right. I could really do without losing my computer so soon after having regained it.
Edited extra bit: that said, the Privacy Report appearing every time I click on a new link is frustrating. I'll have to find out how to axe that.
Just saying ....
A patronising tweet ... copied by the Sun, so that proves it?
A bit of fluff that will irritate some left wing voters but affect nothing.
They could have used "you", perhaps, but that doesn't sit well with the card-playing spirits drinkers who wouldn't be seen in a bingo hall.
It's a bit absurd from Labour too. On the one hand they complain when Osborne cuts taxes just for his mates (the 50p rate), but now that they are cutting taxes that affect more people they are complaining that the Tories are being patronising when they boast about tax cuts that don't particularly benefit ex-members of the Bullingdon Club.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/pollingobservatory/100264582/despite-the-budget-a-small-labour-victory-or-a-hung-parliament-are-still-on-the-cards/
As usual, a lot of careful observation mixed with some hazy thinking that betrays the writers' own allegiances. The airy dismissal of a substantial closing of the gap between the parties in the last month is telling (and the fact that most of the closing is owing to Labour's falling support rather than Conservative rising support is also important).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-26669965
This story is patronising well off people can't understand why the patronised take offence at being patronised. As we raised repeatedly yesterday the budget does literally nothing for the ppeople who can't save where the day to day budget is their concern not retirement. It's a far bigger pool of people than PB Tories with their heads stuck into the paper economy with its paper recovery want to recognise. What the budget did for them was give cash that would make a massive difference to them now to people who aren't struggling to make a difference in the future. Then the poster says cheer up here's a penny off your pint.
Someone patronisingly said "few people will have seen this" - it's a damn sight more than saw the Byrne letter - it's the media commentators and politicians who made it bigger. This poster has the same commentators talking and went viral.
Thanks, Mr. D. I am not a tech-savvy sort of person and thought a bad download effort (I wanted to regain Paint.net which I use for map-making) had infected the computer, though a full virus scan found nothing.
Its frustratingly easy to download a free piece of software which has some non-virus but still annoying addons that mess up your browser. They don't do any harm and will not be detected by your virus checker but they can be irritating,
If I were Ozzy I would be effing furious with Schapps for going off on one and ruining my big day.
That says it all - Ed's pieces of paper remain blank.
That is completely wrong. The pensions measures are fiscally neutral, they are only helping pensions savers in the private sector to control their own money. Indeed, the treasury calculates it will make tax payers money.
The money that was thrown around went to prospective parents (childcare tax breaks) and the low paid (threshold increases).
I think you'll find that posh Labour people patronise their voters all the too. Ed ... the "I understand your pain" type of speech is fairly common.
'Good news though to hear he has Cameron's full support as this means he will stay in place damaging Conservative election prospects '
Surely he can't compete with Rennard?
Apparently labour is going to support the tories' total benefits bill cap. Hope you;re going to be keeping us posted on the labour civil war that one's going to cause.
I don't know whether to be impressed or disturbed that, despite having downloaded it just now, Chrome 'remembers' the sites I visited on Firefox.
"Abney Park Cemetery in the mist..."
On a dark and blustery day one January I visited Abney Park Cemetery in search of my great-great-great grandfather's grave, one Isaac Rockingham.
I vaguely knew that most of his nine children had predeceased him in their teens, twenties or early thirties. His daughter, my gg-grandmother had died in 1877 aged 29 of Diabetes.
Armed with a map of the cemetery, I went in search of the grave. Unsuccessfully to begin with.... An hour or so later I realised that the stone must be there somewhere but was surrounded by trees and decades of undergrowth.
Returning with a pair of garden-shears, I hacked away for 10 minutes until I hit something solid. Scraping away masses of vine-like material hanging from a nearby tree and stuck to the stone, the monument gradually began to reveal itself.
It was getting dark now, starting to rain and I was worried that I was about to be locked in the cemetery for the night! I was certain I was the only living person left in the place. A whistle blew. Busily I struggled to complete my task.
The names started to become legible. All the children were in the grave with the parents. Moving downwards towards the sodden earth, there was another inscription which I could not make out. The stone had sunk somewhat into the ground over the 130 odd years... Using the shears I dug a small channel into the earth to get to the submerged words.
Slowly, letter by letter, I deciphered a piece of mid-Victorian poetry.
"We knew not 'twas consumption, so gently did it steal.
'Till suddenly the crimson tide our darling's doom revealed...."
Needless to say I did not dawdle while heading for the gate.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/465877/Express-readers-react-to-Grant-Shapps-Bingo-and-Beer-Twitter-ad-posted-after-the-Budget
Yes, I know that last year but Labour won't be talking about this year's budget.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/john-niven-whacking-grant-shapps-2277557
"It compounds the narrative that the Conservatives have little knowledge about how people live in modern Britain."
Have Labour got anything to say about the budget,or just thrown in the towel and reverted to blank piece of paper mode?
The Tories have a habbit of letting the loons out when least required - e.g. Grant Schapps yesterday, Aidan Burley at the Olympics. PS - What's happened to the bigot Burley? - haven't heard much from him recently...
Despite what the PB Tories say on here (and we know how wrong they can be when it comes to predictions) and all things being equal (Scotland referendum), Ed Milliband is likely to be our next PM (secured through a small Labour majority).
In the annals of political trivia, I'm struggling to think of a sillier story.
twitter.com/grantshapps/status/446363611972534272/photo/1
Is this what people are getting excited about?
"Cutting the bingo tax and beer duty
helping hardworking people do more of the things they enjoy. "
I mean, it's not exactly Shakespeare but really. What is the problem exactly?
How is this patronising of anyone? It's a bit silly when you are talking about 1p off a £4.00 pint, I'll give you that but patronising? Just don't see it.
Ed Miliband's speech yesterday was not a reply to the budget - I'm not sure a single announcement was reacted to. It was a simple and dreary meme: "The Tories are horrible and nasty." This 'reaction' is just an extension of that.
And sadly, so many people on here fall for it. It says nothing about the Tories, but a lot about the shallowness of the people who buy into it.
It's doubly laughable because, as shown on here passim, Labour is the real nasty party. From McBride to McAlpine through Mitchell.
Labour are nasty at their core. If the rest of the apple is rotten, it's because of that core.
Something else to complain about, good. What will us serial curmudgeons think of to moan about next?
One more for good measure:
Express John :"Using the word 'They' instead of 'We' is clearly setting a line between 'us' and 'them' and shows clearly that the Tories believe themselves to be above the common man and that the class system is still very much in order.
"It's condescending, patronising and downright disrespectful"
http://www.thepaperboy.com/uk/front-pages.cfm
'I mean, it's not exactly Shakespeare but really. What is the problem exactly?'
The problem is that Labour has nothing to say about the budget,plus Ed's crap speech yesterday,hence an attempt at a diversion.
Had no idea you wrote the poster....
Basically they have polls and class war keeping them warm at night. Gawd help them when the polls swing back.
I see more self-appointed martyrs ready to take offence on some-one else's behalf.
It shows the dearth of talent/gumption/brains in the media and, more worryingly, our political class that this is what now counts as sharp analysis of a budget.
Given a much higher priority on mumsnet are the childcare tax break proposals being offered by the government. There's a long article about what people can get.