The pub that has just opened near me is cashless. Endgame for the pointless tokens and shards.
I have had £50 in cash in my wallet for 6 months... can't get rid of it.
I'll have it! Cashless establishments are still in the minority. And if you're prepared to pay by card you can always jump the queue in Sainsburys and Tesco because the number of cars only tills always outweighs the number of customers in the queue willing to use them.
Er does it? Not here it doesn't.
(And, in any case, isn't that an argument against cash?)
Cash is, after all, pointless.
Well it does in the middle-class-ish halfway-out suburbs of South Manchester. Though I'm sure everyone in that London is paying with their watch before slapping on their wrap-around shades and whizzing home on their hoverscooters with their socks fashionably showing. :-;
Off topic: The Washington Post is celebrating columnist George Will's 50 years of columns. His education includes an institution some of you may be familiar with: "After high school, Will went to Trinity College in Hartford, Connecticut, graduating in 1962 with a Bachelor of Arts degree in religion. He then went to England and attended Magdalen College, Oxford, where he studied philosophy, politics and economics and received a bachelor's degree (promoted to a master's per tradition). Will then did doctoral study in political science at Princeton University, receiving a PhD in 1968 . . . Will originally had left wing political views but his views shifted toward conservatism during his studies at Oxford, especially after visiting Communist-controlled East Berlin in the mid-1960s." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Will
(Will, like the late Nat Hentoff, is consistently pro--life, opposing both capital punishment and aborting "defective" babies.)
The pub that has just opened near me is cashless. Endgame for the pointless tokens and shards.
I have had £50 in cash in my wallet for 6 months... can't get rid of it.
My grandchildren's Saturday morning 'Grandma's helpers' would resolve that problem
Can't even give it to my friends kids, they all have apple pay on their phone / watched attached to accounts. They want to be cool and tap it like the adults.
I have to trudge to the bank if any relatives insist on posting (yes posting!) cash to my son for a gift. He cannot use it to buy the things he buys (online games for his PS5, electronics from online retailers), so it is just an entirely pointless chore that could have been avoided had they just transferred the money – which takes 60 seconds.
Inability to dispose of cash - say any sum under a couple of hundred pounds - within a reasonably short time displays an extraordinary lack of imagination. It can be done in minutes or even seconds by an expert. Can this really only be true in the small town rural north of England?
Really? Without receiving even more pointless "change" – or being that guy who asks whether he can pay some in cash and the rest with card?
For comparison, during the Korean War, we were spending about 11% of our GDP on defence, falling to 7%, about Russia's level today, in 1959, and the 1950s were a time of growing prosperity here and in the US, which spent similar amounts. These levels are eminently affordable in the short and medium term, even if the usual caveats about Russian statistics apply. To get up to 40-50% you need to go back to the Second World War.
He may find it difficult to maintain the standard of living for the Russian masses, i.e. to have both guns and butter, but even there, the evidence is ambiguous, since working class Russians are benefiting hugely from high salaries in the military - if they survive - and booming wages due to a shortage of labour.
It won't be economic pressure, or sanctions, that break Putin's will - it will be Ukrainian men smashing his armies with Western weapons on the fields of Donetsk, Luhansk and Zaporizhe. Which is why we need to supply as many powerful weapons as possible as soon as possible, or reconcile ourselves to a Russian victory, with all the consequent disasters for the free world.
750,000 dead or wounded Russians, when you consider how few there are of conscriptable age, is quite a lot though.
To put in context, there are only about 4.5 million Russian men aged between 18 and 24.
The pub that has just opened near me is cashless. Endgame for the pointless tokens and shards.
I have had £50 in cash in my wallet for 6 months... can't get rid of it.
My grandchildren's Saturday morning 'Grandma's helpers' would resolve that problem
Can't even give it to my friends kids, they all have apple pay on their phone / watched attached to accounts. They want to be cool and tap it like the adults.
Maybe not 12 and 10 then !!!!
Lots of children have Apple Pay – it's easy to set up on a phone from an adult bank account. Effectively gives them a way to manage proper (i.e. digital) money from an early age and not carry pointless cash with them. It also shows them live balance. Most teenagers I know seem to think the whole idea of cash is as stupid as landline phones.
Not at their ages, but then discussing the subject with your closed mind is pointless
Most people have a more nuanced attitude to cash
There is no point being nuanced about something that is pointless and facing obsolesce. It's like being nuanced on the appeal of leaded petrol, Ceefax, or the Phone Book.
Off topic: The Washington Post is celebrating columnist George Will's 50 years of columns. His education includes an institution some of you may be familiar with: "After high school, Will went to Trinity College in Hartford, Connecticut, graduating in 1962 with a Bachelor of Arts degree in religion. He then went to England and attended Magdalen College, Oxford, where he studied philosophy, politics and economics and received a bachelor's degree (promoted to a master's per tradition). Will then did doctoral study in political science at Princeton University, receiving a PhD in 1968 . . . Will originally had left wing political views but his views shifted toward conservatism during his studies at Oxford, especially after visiting Communist-controlled East Berlin in the mid-1960s." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Will
(Will, like the late Nat Hentoff, is consistently pro--life, opposing both capital punishment and aborting "defective" babies.)
OGH used to be Fellow of Magdalen College, Oxford. Albeit after George Will's time. He has consistently opposed post natal abortion.
NEWS: Two unnamed Nissan executives said the company has "12 to 14 months to survive."
Nissan cut more than 9,000 jobs earlier this month, while simultaneously slashing production by nearly 20%. Nissan's operating profit dropped 85% in Q3.
Old news, they’ve hired that brilliant chap from Jaguar to turn their fortunes around. I’ve just received the new Nissan ad.
The pub that has just opened near me is cashless. Endgame for the pointless tokens and shards.
I have had £50 in cash in my wallet for 6 months... can't get rid of it.
I'll have it! Cashless establishments are still in the minority. And if you're prepared to pay by card you can always jump the queue in Sainsburys and Tesco because the number of cars only tills always outweighs the number of customers in the queue willing to use them.
Er does it? Not here it doesn't.
(And, in any case, isn't that an argument against cash?)
Cash is, after all, pointless.
Well it does in the middle-class-ish halfway-out suburbs of South Manchester. Though I'm sure everyone in that London is paying with their watch before slapping on their wrap-around shades and whizzing home on their hoverscooters with their socks fashionably showing. :-;
I was up north recently and bought a pint with my watch. One of the old-timers leant over and said: "watch out!". Comedy geniuses up there!
The pub that has just opened near me is cashless. Endgame for the pointless tokens and shards.
I have had £50 in cash in my wallet for 6 months... can't get rid of it.
I'll have it! Cashless establishments are still in the minority. And if you're prepared to pay by card you can always jump the queue in Sainsburys and Tesco because the number of cars only tills always outweighs the number of customers in the queue willing to use them.
Er does it? Not here it doesn't.
(And, in any case, isn't that an argument against cash?)
Cash is, after all, pointless.
Well it does in the middle-class-ish halfway-out suburbs of South Manchester. Though I'm sure everyone in that London is paying with their watch before slapping on their wrap-around shades and whizzing home on their hoverscooters with their socks fashionably showing. :-;
I was up north recently and bought a pint with my watch. One of the old-timers leant over and said: "watch out!". Comedy geniuses up there!
Must have been either a very expensive pint or a very cheap watch.
The pub that has just opened near me is cashless. Endgame for the pointless tokens and shards.
I have had £50 in cash in my wallet for 6 months... can't get rid of it.
My grandchildren's Saturday morning 'Grandma's helpers' would resolve that problem
Can't even give it to my friends kids, they all have apple pay on their phone / watched attached to accounts. They want to be cool and tap it like the adults.
Maybe not 12 and 10 then !!!!
Lots of children have Apple Pay – it's easy to set up on a phone from an adult bank account. Effectively gives them a way to manage proper (i.e. digital) money from an early age and not carry pointless cash with them. It also shows them live balance. Most teenagers I know seem to think the whole idea of cash is as stupid as landline phones.
Not at their ages, but then discussing the subject with your closed mind is pointless
Most people have a more nuanced attitude to cash
There is no point being nuanced about something that is pointless and facing obsolesce. It's like being nuanced on the appeal of leaded petrol, Ceefax, or the Phone Book.
You have your opinion, others have other opinions - such is life
The pub that has just opened near me is cashless. Endgame for the pointless tokens and shards.
I have had £50 in cash in my wallet for 6 months... can't get rid of it.
My grandchildren's Saturday morning 'Grandma's helpers' would resolve that problem
Can't even give it to my friends kids, they all have apple pay on their phone / watched attached to accounts. They want to be cool and tap it like the adults.
I have to trudge to the bank if any relatives insist on posting (yes posting!) cash to my son for a gift. He cannot use it to buy the things he buys (online games for his PS5, electronics from online retailers), so it is just an entirely pointless chore that could have been avoided had they just transferred the money – which takes 60 seconds.
Inability to dispose of cash - say any sum under a couple of hundred pounds - within a reasonably short time displays an extraordinary lack of imagination. It can be done in minutes or even seconds by an expert. Can this really only be true in the small town rural north of England?
Really? Without receiving even more pointless "change" – or being that guy who asks whether he can pay some in cash and the rest with card?
Yes, Really. And small change can be got rid of in a multitude of ways including charity boxes/tins and in a slot near the door in any church, or at community coffee mornings etc. As to getting rid of £200 cash in minutes, stock up at Lidl on a quiet day (my preferred version of Fortnum and Mason) pop to the butcher, go to the petrol station, buy some fish and chips. 83p change to their charity box for the local hospice. Done and fun. And conversation with old friends as you do it will put you back in you are pressed for time.
Personally I find the smell and smoke from Vapes far more unhealthy and worrying than from a cigarette or a cigar or old fashioned pipe.
The habit of exhaling a huge amount of smoke in the direction of any passerby is obnoxious.
The sight of a car in front filling up with smoke at traffic lights deeply disturbing.
I hope any ban on "smoking" includes vapes.
Apologies as this is a bugbear of mine but you can't 'find' something unhealthy. It's either bad for other people like passive smoking or it isn't. If it isn't (and there's no evidence for any negative health effects from passive vaping) then it's just something you don't like. I hate it when people eat smelly fast food on trains or wear overly strong perfume but it'd be pretty unreasonable to expect the government to ban it.
"Numerous bomb threats" made against Donald Trump's cabinet nominees and picks for his incoming administration, FBI says
Remind me, which presidential contender wanted to defund the FBI? Not Californian woke BLM leftie Kamala, the other one. You know, the one with the hair.
The pub that has just opened near me is cashless. Endgame for the pointless tokens and shards.
I have had £50 in cash in my wallet for 6 months... can't get rid of it.
My grandchildren's Saturday morning 'Grandma's helpers' would resolve that problem
Can't even give it to my friends kids, they all have apple pay on their phone / watched attached to accounts. They want to be cool and tap it like the adults.
Maybe not 12 and 10 then !!!!
Lots of children have Apple Pay – it's easy to set up on a phone from an adult bank account. Effectively gives them a way to manage proper (i.e. digital) money from an early age and not carry pointless cash with them. It also shows them live balance. Most teenagers I know seem to think the whole idea of cash is as stupid as landline phones.
Not at their ages, but then discussing the subject with your closed mind is pointless
Most people have a more nuanced attitude to cash
There is no point being nuanced about something that is pointless and facing obsolesce. It's like being nuanced on the appeal of leaded petrol, Ceefax, or the Phone Book.
Ceefax was a better product than that red button shit that replaced it. You coukd get the test scorecard (341?) quicker than you now can on the internet. 302 football, 370 rugby, 324 was something significant too. I miss it.
So, will Reform be out-leafleting the LDs for next May?
I think they have at least one problem in that they do not have decades of canvas returns to know who their voters of, or to have many individual interest profiles.
The pub that has just opened near me is cashless. Endgame for the pointless tokens and shards.
I have had £50 in cash in my wallet for 6 months... can't get rid of it.
My grandchildren's Saturday morning 'Grandma's helpers' would resolve that problem
Can't even give it to my friends kids, they all have apple pay on their phone / watched attached to accounts. They want to be cool and tap it like the adults.
Maybe not 12 and 10 then !!!!
Lots of children have Apple Pay – it's easy to set up on a phone from an adult bank account. Effectively gives them a way to manage proper (i.e. digital) money from an early age and not carry pointless cash with them. It also shows them live balance. Most teenagers I know seem to think the whole idea of cash is as stupid as landline phones.
Not at their ages, but then discussing the subject with your closed mind is pointless
Most people have a more nuanced attitude to cash
There is no point being nuanced about something that is pointless and facing obsolesce. It's like being nuanced on the appeal of leaded petrol, Ceefax, or the Phone Book.
Ceefax was a better product than that red button shit that replaced it. You coukd get the test scorecard (341?) quicker than you now can on the internet. 302 football, 370 rugby, 324 was something significant too. I miss it.
I really miss Bamboozled on Ceefax too. I used to love doing that quiz with my Gran.
Former deputy prime minister Sir Oliver Dowden has picked up a £500 per hour job as a 'strategy adviser' to a Mayfair-based hedge fund managed by a major Tory donor.
The ex-Cabinet minister is working for Caxton Associates for up to two days a month for a six-month period, according to the Hertsmere MP's register of interests.
Quite effective, I think. Guarding the Reform-inclined flank, as well.
That is pretty good. Well done Kemi. Simple and straightforward yet - as you imply - that is what is needed. Sounds honest. Direct. Straight to camera. She's certainly more likeable and less shifty than Sir Sheer Wanker
And yet, by all accounts, she is dire at PMQs (not watched it)
The pub that has just opened near me is cashless. Endgame for the pointless tokens and shards.
I have had £50 in cash in my wallet for 6 months... can't get rid of it.
My grandchildren's Saturday morning 'Grandma's helpers' would resolve that problem
Can't even give it to my friends kids, they all have apple pay on their phone / watched attached to accounts. They want to be cool and tap it like the adults.
I have to trudge to the bank if any relatives insist on posting (yes posting!) cash to my son for a gift. He cannot use it to buy the things he buys (online games for his PS5, electronics from online retailers), so it is just an entirely pointless chore that could have been avoided had they just transferred the money – which takes 60 seconds.
Inability to dispose of cash - say any sum under a couple of hundred pounds - within a reasonably short time displays an extraordinary lack of imagination. It can be done in minutes or even seconds by an expert. Can this really only be true in the small town rural north of England?
Really? Without receiving even more pointless "change" – or being that guy who asks whether he can pay some in cash and the rest with card?
Yes, Really. And small change can be got rid of in a multitude of ways including charity boxes/tins and in a slot near the door in any church, or at community coffee mornings etc. As to getting rid of £200 cash in minutes, stock up at Lidl on a quiet day (my preferred version of Fortnum and Mason) pop to the butcher, go to the petrol station, buy some fish and chips. 83p change to their charity box for the local hospice. Done and fun. And conversation with old friends as you do it will put you back in you are pressed for time.
Which planet are you from by the way?
Yes but what is the point of doing all of these things, given that all of them can be done more quickly and easily, and at less risk to both buyer and vendor, than using cash? There is literally no point to any of it – it's just a complete waste of time and materials to do exactly the same thing you could do with BACs/contactless/ApplePay.
I mean a couple of mates are doing Movember – I suppose I could have posted them some notes and change and had them spend it in Lidl before putting the digital money in their charity fund on my behalf, then somehow claiming the GiftAid via telegraph to the Taxman.
So, will Reform be out-leafleting the LDs for next May?
I think they have at least one problem in that they do not have decades of canvas returns to know who their voters of, or to have many individual interest profiles.
This is my slightly bizarre photo quota for the day. Installed by Network Rail (or a predecessor) to replace a level crossing for pedestrians, which may have been a multiuser path. Probably not a bridleway, as a horse would not like that.
There's probably another one on the other side. It's driven by clearance height for electric mainline rail.
What do you think? I reckon Network Rail are massively far from what is possible, as ever. That's too energy sapping to be done by manual wheelchairs, and difficult for nonstandard cycles. They are driven like by minimum cost to meet legal requirements rather than a practical solution, or thinking about the public.
That could be much better with landscaping, or done useable for everyone as an underpass *. There are plenty of ways of doing such without serious interruption to the trains.
* People can't jump in front of trains from underpasses !
Quite effective, I think. Guarding the Reform-inclined flank, as well.
That is pretty good. Well done Kemi. Simple and straightforward yet - as you imply - that is what is needed. Sounds honest. Direct. Straight to camera. She's certainly more likeable and less shifty than Sir Sheer Wanker
And yet, by all accounts, she is dire at PMQs (not watched it)
Hmmm........
Not all accounts
Just a couple of Starmer’s fan base who seem to be getting very wound up by her, whilst their leaders government languishes at 19% approval
The pub that has just opened near me is cashless. Endgame for the pointless tokens and shards.
I have had £50 in cash in my wallet for 6 months... can't get rid of it.
My grandchildren's Saturday morning 'Grandma's helpers' would resolve that problem
Can't even give it to my friends kids, they all have apple pay on their phone / watched attached to accounts. They want to be cool and tap it like the adults.
I have to trudge to the bank if any relatives insist on posting (yes posting!) cash to my son for a gift. He cannot use it to buy the things he buys (online games for his PS5, electronics from online retailers), so it is just an entirely pointless chore that could have been avoided had they just transferred the money – which takes 60 seconds.
Inability to dispose of cash - say any sum under a couple of hundred pounds - within a reasonably short time displays an extraordinary lack of imagination. It can be done in minutes or even seconds by an expert. Can this really only be true in the small town rural north of England?
Really? Without receiving even more pointless "change" – or being that guy who asks whether he can pay some in cash and the rest with card?
Yes, Really. And small change can be got rid of in a multitude of ways including charity boxes/tins and in a slot near the door in any church, or at community coffee mornings etc. As to getting rid of £200 cash in minutes, stock up at Lidl on a quiet day (my preferred version of Fortnum and Mason) pop to the butcher, go to the petrol station, buy some fish and chips. 83p change to their charity box for the local hospice. Done and fun. And conversation with old friends as you do it will put you back in you are pressed for time.
Which planet are you from by the way?
Yes but what is the point of doing all of these things, given that all of them can be done more quickly and easily, and at less risk to both buyer and vendor, than using cash? There is literally no point to any of it – it's just a complete waste of time and materials to do exactly the same thing you could do with BACs/contactless/ApplePay.
I mean a couple of mates are doing Movember – I suppose I could have posted them some notes and change and had them spend it in Lidl before putting the digital money in their charity fund on my behalf, then somehow claiming the GiftAid via telegraph to the Taxman.
NEWS: Two unnamed Nissan executives said the company has "12 to 14 months to survive."
Nissan cut more than 9,000 jobs earlier this month, while simultaneously slashing production by nearly 20%. Nissan's operating profit dropped 85% in Q3.
Announce they are turning into an AI company and that will buy them enough random investor cash to last at least an extra year.
Only sell their cars for bitcoin and ride the wave.
“Our car business has collapsed. However, one of our executives bought a bunch of bitcoin from a guy in a bar in 1998, to pay a cocktail bill. So we own Satoshi Nakamoto’s stash.”
The pub that has just opened near me is cashless. Endgame for the pointless tokens and shards.
I have had £50 in cash in my wallet for 6 months... can't get rid of it.
My grandchildren's Saturday morning 'Grandma's helpers' would resolve that problem
Can't even give it to my friends kids, they all have apple pay on their phone / watched attached to accounts. They want to be cool and tap it like the adults.
I have to trudge to the bank if any relatives insist on posting (yes posting!) cash to my son for a gift. He cannot use it to buy the things he buys (online games for his PS5, electronics from online retailers), so it is just an entirely pointless chore that could have been avoided had they just transferred the money – which takes 60 seconds.
Inability to dispose of cash - say any sum under a couple of hundred pounds - within a reasonably short time displays an extraordinary lack of imagination. It can be done in minutes or even seconds by an expert. Can this really only be true in the small town rural north of England?
Really? Without receiving even more pointless "change" – or being that guy who asks whether he can pay some in cash and the rest with card?
Yes, Really. And small change can be got rid of in a multitude of ways including charity boxes/tins and in a slot near the door in any church, or at community coffee mornings etc. As to getting rid of £200 cash in minutes, stock up at Lidl on a quiet day (my preferred version of Fortnum and Mason) pop to the butcher, go to the petrol station, buy some fish and chips. 83p change to their charity box for the local hospice. Done and fun. And conversation with old friends as you do it will put you back in you are pressed for time.
Which planet are you from by the way?
Yes but what is the point of doing all of these things, given that all of them can be done more quickly and easily, and at less risk to both buyer and vendor, than using cash? There is literally no point to any of it – it's just a complete waste of time and materials to do exactly the same thing you could do with BACs/contactless/ApplePay.
I mean a couple of mates are doing Movember – I suppose I could have posted them some notes and change and had them spend it in Lidl before putting the digital money in their charity fund on my behalf, then somehow claiming the GiftAid via telegraph to the Taxman.
But what would be the point?
The point of doing as I described (not far off my reality sometimes) is that it answered fully the issue of how to deal with cash in a non cumbersome way. It's easy. There are many transactions where I can, and sometimes do, work in exactly this way.
Of course I don't for most, including your example.
However there is a group of people still, I am told, who live simpler lives than the rest of us and mainly use cash. The BBC says it's 1.5 million and growing. Fair play to them.
The pub that has just opened near me is cashless. Endgame for the pointless tokens and shards.
I have had £50 in cash in my wallet for 6 months... can't get rid of it.
My grandchildren's Saturday morning 'Grandma's helpers' would resolve that problem
Can't even give it to my friends kids, they all have apple pay on their phone / watched attached to accounts. They want to be cool and tap it like the adults.
I have to trudge to the bank if any relatives insist on posting (yes posting!) cash to my son for a gift. He cannot use it to buy the things he buys (online games for his PS5, electronics from online retailers), so it is just an entirely pointless chore that could have been avoided had they just transferred the money – which takes 60 seconds.
Inability to dispose of cash - say any sum under a couple of hundred pounds - within a reasonably short time displays an extraordinary lack of imagination. It can be done in minutes or even seconds by an expert. Can this really only be true in the small town rural north of England?
Really? Without receiving even more pointless "change" – or being that guy who asks whether he can pay some in cash and the rest with card?
Yes, Really. And small change can be got rid of in a multitude of ways including charity boxes/tins and in a slot near the door in any church, or at community coffee mornings etc. As to getting rid of £200 cash in minutes, stock up at Lidl on a quiet day (my preferred version of Fortnum and Mason) pop to the butcher, go to the petrol station, buy some fish and chips. 83p change to their charity box for the local hospice. Done and fun. And conversation with old friends as you do it will put you back in you are pressed for time.
Which planet are you from by the way?
Yes but what is the point of doing all of these things, given that all of them can be done more quickly and easily, and at less risk to both buyer and vendor, than using cash? There is literally no point to any of it – it's just a complete waste of time and materials to do exactly the same thing you could do with BACs/contactless/ApplePay.
I mean a couple of mates are doing Movember – I suppose I could have posted them some notes and change and had them spend it in Lidl before putting the digital money in their charity fund on my behalf, then somehow claiming the GiftAid via telegraph to the Taxman.
But what would be the point?
The point is freedom of choice
I would like to see you try to exercise such freedom of choice when a mate sends you a payment link for his Movember charity drive...
Well done to Starmer for parrying the demand for (effectively) blasphemy laws from a Labour MP at PMQs today.
Many people self-enforce a non blasphemy code out of ordinary respect for others. Quite a lot don't. Nearly all self-enforce bits of non blasphemy code out of terror of being killed.
Of these three only the first is any good.
I would be tempted to put up a Blasphemy Bill that effectively bans all the “Abrahamic Religions” as blasphemy against the religions they supplanted.
Careful what you wish Careful what you say Careful what you wish You may regret it Careful what you wish You just might get it
The pub that has just opened near me is cashless. Endgame for the pointless tokens and shards.
I have had £50 in cash in my wallet for 6 months... can't get rid of it.
My grandchildren's Saturday morning 'Grandma's helpers' would resolve that problem
Can't even give it to my friends kids, they all have apple pay on their phone / watched attached to accounts. They want to be cool and tap it like the adults.
I have to trudge to the bank if any relatives insist on posting (yes posting!) cash to my son for a gift. He cannot use it to buy the things he buys (online games for his PS5, electronics from online retailers), so it is just an entirely pointless chore that could have been avoided had they just transferred the money – which takes 60 seconds.
Inability to dispose of cash - say any sum under a couple of hundred pounds - within a reasonably short time displays an extraordinary lack of imagination. It can be done in minutes or even seconds by an expert. Can this really only be true in the small town rural north of England?
Really? Without receiving even more pointless "change" – or being that guy who asks whether he can pay some in cash and the rest with card?
Yes, Really. And small change can be got rid of in a multitude of ways including charity boxes/tins and in a slot near the door in any church, or at community coffee mornings etc. As to getting rid of £200 cash in minutes, stock up at Lidl on a quiet day (my preferred version of Fortnum and Mason) pop to the butcher, go to the petrol station, buy some fish and chips. 83p change to their charity box for the local hospice. Done and fun. And conversation with old friends as you do it will put you back in you are pressed for time.
Which planet are you from by the way?
Yes but what is the point of doing all of these things, given that all of them can be done more quickly and easily, and at less risk to both buyer and vendor, than using cash? There is literally no point to any of it – it's just a complete waste of time and materials to do exactly the same thing you could do with BACs/contactless/ApplePay.
I mean a couple of mates are doing Movember – I suppose I could have posted them some notes and change and had them spend it in Lidl before putting the digital money in their charity fund on my behalf, then somehow claiming the GiftAid via telegraph to the Taxman.
But what would be the point?
The point of doing as I described (not far off my reality sometimes) is that it answered fully the issue of how to deal with cash in a non cumbersome way. It's easy. There are many transactions where I can, and sometimes do, work in exactly this way.
Of course I don't for most, including your example.
However there is a group of people still, I am told, who live simpler lives than the rest of us and mainly use cash. The BBC says it's 1.5 million and growing. Fair play to them.
In 2023 there were 93 billion pounds of notes and cash in circulation
The idea we are going cashless anytime soon is simply nonsense
The pub that has just opened near me is cashless. Endgame for the pointless tokens and shards.
I have had £50 in cash in my wallet for 6 months... can't get rid of it.
My grandchildren's Saturday morning 'Grandma's helpers' would resolve that problem
Can't even give it to my friends kids, they all have apple pay on their phone / watched attached to accounts. They want to be cool and tap it like the adults.
I have to trudge to the bank if any relatives insist on posting (yes posting!) cash to my son for a gift. He cannot use it to buy the things he buys (online games for his PS5, electronics from online retailers), so it is just an entirely pointless chore that could have been avoided had they just transferred the money – which takes 60 seconds.
Inability to dispose of cash - say any sum under a couple of hundred pounds - within a reasonably short time displays an extraordinary lack of imagination. It can be done in minutes or even seconds by an expert. Can this really only be true in the small town rural north of England?
Really? Without receiving even more pointless "change" – or being that guy who asks whether he can pay some in cash and the rest with card?
Yes, Really. And small change can be got rid of in a multitude of ways including charity boxes/tins and in a slot near the door in any church, or at community coffee mornings etc. As to getting rid of £200 cash in minutes, stock up at Lidl on a quiet day (my preferred version of Fortnum and Mason) pop to the butcher, go to the petrol station, buy some fish and chips. 83p change to their charity box for the local hospice. Done and fun. And conversation with old friends as you do it will put you back in you are pressed for time.
Which planet are you from by the way?
Yes but what is the point of doing all of these things, given that all of them can be done more quickly and easily, and at less risk to both buyer and vendor, than using cash? There is literally no point to any of it – it's just a complete waste of time and materials to do exactly the same thing you could do with BACs/contactless/ApplePay.
I mean a couple of mates are doing Movember – I suppose I could have posted them some notes and change and had them spend it in Lidl before putting the digital money in their charity fund on my behalf, then somehow claiming the GiftAid via telegraph to the Taxman.
But what would be the point?
The point of doing as I described (not far off my reality sometimes) is that it answered fully the issue of how to deal with cash in a non cumbersome way. It's easy. There are many transactions where I can, and sometimes do, work in exactly this way.
Of course I don't for most, including your example.
However there is a group of people still, I am told, who live simpler lives than the rest of us and mainly use cash. The BBC says it's 1.5 million and growing. Fair play to them.
Up to them. I wouldn't ban it.
But, it is a pointless waste of time and materials.
The pub that has just opened near me is cashless. Endgame for the pointless tokens and shards.
I have had £50 in cash in my wallet for 6 months... can't get rid of it.
My grandchildren's Saturday morning 'Grandma's helpers' would resolve that problem
Can't even give it to my friends kids, they all have apple pay on their phone / watched attached to accounts. They want to be cool and tap it like the adults.
I have to trudge to the bank if any relatives insist on posting (yes posting!) cash to my son for a gift. He cannot use it to buy the things he buys (online games for his PS5, electronics from online retailers), so it is just an entirely pointless chore that could have been avoided had they just transferred the money – which takes 60 seconds.
Inability to dispose of cash - say any sum under a couple of hundred pounds - within a reasonably short time displays an extraordinary lack of imagination. It can be done in minutes or even seconds by an expert. Can this really only be true in the small town rural north of England?
Really? Without receiving even more pointless "change" – or being that guy who asks whether he can pay some in cash and the rest with card?
Yes, Really. And small change can be got rid of in a multitude of ways including charity boxes/tins and in a slot near the door in any church, or at community coffee mornings etc. As to getting rid of £200 cash in minutes, stock up at Lidl on a quiet day (my preferred version of Fortnum and Mason) pop to the butcher, go to the petrol station, buy some fish and chips. 83p change to their charity box for the local hospice. Done and fun. And conversation with old friends as you do it will put you back in you are pressed for time.
Which planet are you from by the way?
Yes but what is the point of doing all of these things, given that all of them can be done more quickly and easily, and at less risk to both buyer and vendor, than using cash? There is literally no point to any of it – it's just a complete waste of time and materials to do exactly the same thing you could do with BACs/contactless/ApplePay.
I mean a couple of mates are doing Movember – I suppose I could have posted them some notes and change and had them spend it in Lidl before putting the digital money in their charity fund on my behalf, then somehow claiming the GiftAid via telegraph to the Taxman.
But what would be the point?
The point is freedom of choice
I would like to see you try to exercise such freedom of choice when a mate sends you a payment link for his Movember charity drive...
Your capacity to misunderstand must be deliberate. It can't be actual dimness. It is not suggested that cash is appropriate to all transactions, just that it should be an option for many day to day transactions.
The pub that has just opened near me is cashless. Endgame for the pointless tokens and shards.
I have had £50 in cash in my wallet for 6 months... can't get rid of it.
My grandchildren's Saturday morning 'Grandma's helpers' would resolve that problem
Can't even give it to my friends kids, they all have apple pay on their phone / watched attached to accounts. They want to be cool and tap it like the adults.
I have to trudge to the bank if any relatives insist on posting (yes posting!) cash to my son for a gift. He cannot use it to buy the things he buys (online games for his PS5, electronics from online retailers), so it is just an entirely pointless chore that could have been avoided had they just transferred the money – which takes 60 seconds.
Inability to dispose of cash - say any sum under a couple of hundred pounds - within a reasonably short time displays an extraordinary lack of imagination. It can be done in minutes or even seconds by an expert. Can this really only be true in the small town rural north of England?
Really? Without receiving even more pointless "change" – or being that guy who asks whether he can pay some in cash and the rest with card?
Yes, Really. And small change can be got rid of in a multitude of ways including charity boxes/tins and in a slot near the door in any church, or at community coffee mornings etc. As to getting rid of £200 cash in minutes, stock up at Lidl on a quiet day (my preferred version of Fortnum and Mason) pop to the butcher, go to the petrol station, buy some fish and chips. 83p change to their charity box for the local hospice. Done and fun. And conversation with old friends as you do it will put you back in you are pressed for time.
Which planet are you from by the way?
Down the off license to get the booze in for the family parties…
The pub that has just opened near me is cashless. Endgame for the pointless tokens and shards.
I have had £50 in cash in my wallet for 6 months... can't get rid of it.
My grandchildren's Saturday morning 'Grandma's helpers' would resolve that problem
Can't even give it to my friends kids, they all have apple pay on their phone / watched attached to accounts. They want to be cool and tap it like the adults.
I have to trudge to the bank if any relatives insist on posting (yes posting!) cash to my son for a gift. He cannot use it to buy the things he buys (online games for his PS5, electronics from online retailers), so it is just an entirely pointless chore that could have been avoided had they just transferred the money – which takes 60 seconds.
Inability to dispose of cash - say any sum under a couple of hundred pounds - within a reasonably short time displays an extraordinary lack of imagination. It can be done in minutes or even seconds by an expert. Can this really only be true in the small town rural north of England?
Really? Without receiving even more pointless "change" – or being that guy who asks whether he can pay some in cash and the rest with card?
Yes, Really. And small change can be got rid of in a multitude of ways including charity boxes/tins and in a slot near the door in any church, or at community coffee mornings etc. As to getting rid of £200 cash in minutes, stock up at Lidl on a quiet day (my preferred version of Fortnum and Mason) pop to the butcher, go to the petrol station, buy some fish and chips. 83p change to their charity box for the local hospice. Done and fun. And conversation with old friends as you do it will put you back in you are pressed for time.
Which planet are you from by the way?
Yes but what is the point of doing all of these things, given that all of them can be done more quickly and easily, and at less risk to both buyer and vendor, than using cash? There is literally no point to any of it – it's just a complete waste of time and materials to do exactly the same thing you could do with BACs/contactless/ApplePay.
I mean a couple of mates are doing Movember – I suppose I could have posted them some notes and change and had them spend it in Lidl before putting the digital money in their charity fund on my behalf, then somehow claiming the GiftAid via telegraph to the Taxman.
But what would be the point?
The point is freedom of choice
I would like to see you try to exercise such freedom of choice when a mate sends you a payment link for his Movember charity drive...
I would tell him I was putting the cash in the RNLI collection at Asda
NEWS: Two unnamed Nissan executives said the company has "12 to 14 months to survive."
Nissan cut more than 9,000 jobs earlier this month, while simultaneously slashing production by nearly 20%. Nissan's operating profit dropped 85% in Q3.
The new industrial revolution is very tough on legacy manufacturers like Vauxhall and Nissan.
Quite effective, I think. Guarding the Reform-inclined flank, as well.
That is pretty good. Well done Kemi. Simple and straightforward yet - as you imply - that is what is needed. Sounds honest. Direct. Straight to camera. She's certainly more likeable and less shifty than Sir Sheer Wanker
And yet, by all accounts, she is dire at PMQs (not watched it)
Hmmm........
Not all accounts
Just a couple of Starmer’s fan base who seem to be getting very wound up by her, whilst their leaders government languishes at 19% approval
I don't think anyone could claim she's a brilliant PMQs performer. She's pretty dire - but then the last really good one was probably Cameron?
And in the same way approval ratings and polling aren't particularly good indicators for an election 4.5 years away, she's got plenty of time to improve.
The pub that has just opened near me is cashless. Endgame for the pointless tokens and shards.
I have had £50 in cash in my wallet for 6 months... can't get rid of it.
My grandchildren's Saturday morning 'Grandma's helpers' would resolve that problem
Can't even give it to my friends kids, they all have apple pay on their phone / watched attached to accounts. They want to be cool and tap it like the adults.
I have to trudge to the bank if any relatives insist on posting (yes posting!) cash to my son for a gift. He cannot use it to buy the things he buys (online games for his PS5, electronics from online retailers), so it is just an entirely pointless chore that could have been avoided had they just transferred the money – which takes 60 seconds.
Inability to dispose of cash - say any sum under a couple of hundred pounds - within a reasonably short time displays an extraordinary lack of imagination. It can be done in minutes or even seconds by an expert. Can this really only be true in the small town rural north of England?
Really? Without receiving even more pointless "change" – or being that guy who asks whether he can pay some in cash and the rest with card?
Yes, Really. And small change can be got rid of in a multitude of ways including charity boxes/tins and in a slot near the door in any church, or at community coffee mornings etc. As to getting rid of £200 cash in minutes, stock up at Lidl on a quiet day (my preferred version of Fortnum and Mason) pop to the butcher, go to the petrol station, buy some fish and chips. 83p change to their charity box for the local hospice. Done and fun. And conversation with old friends as you do it will put you back in you are pressed for time.
Which planet are you from by the way?
Yes but what is the point of doing all of these things, given that all of them can be done more quickly and easily, and at less risk to both buyer and vendor, than using cash? There is literally no point to any of it – it's just a complete waste of time and materials to do exactly the same thing you could do with BACs/contactless/ApplePay.
I mean a couple of mates are doing Movember – I suppose I could have posted them some notes and change and had them spend it in Lidl before putting the digital money in their charity fund on my behalf, then somehow claiming the GiftAid via telegraph to the Taxman.
But what would be the point?
The point is freedom of choice
I would like to see you try to exercise such freedom of choice when a mate sends you a payment link for his Movember charity drive...
Your capacity to misunderstand must be deliberate. It can't be actual dimness. It is not suggested that cash is appropriate to all transactions, just that it should be an option for many day to day transactions.
The pub that has just opened near me is cashless. Endgame for the pointless tokens and shards.
I have had £50 in cash in my wallet for 6 months... can't get rid of it.
My grandchildren's Saturday morning 'Grandma's helpers' would resolve that problem
Can't even give it to my friends kids, they all have apple pay on their phone / watched attached to accounts. They want to be cool and tap it like the adults.
I have to trudge to the bank if any relatives insist on posting (yes posting!) cash to my son for a gift. He cannot use it to buy the things he buys (online games for his PS5, electronics from online retailers), so it is just an entirely pointless chore that could have been avoided had they just transferred the money – which takes 60 seconds.
Inability to dispose of cash - say any sum under a couple of hundred pounds - within a reasonably short time displays an extraordinary lack of imagination. It can be done in minutes or even seconds by an expert. Can this really only be true in the small town rural north of England?
Really? Without receiving even more pointless "change" – or being that guy who asks whether he can pay some in cash and the rest with card?
Yes, Really. And small change can be got rid of in a multitude of ways including charity boxes/tins and in a slot near the door in any church, or at community coffee mornings etc. As to getting rid of £200 cash in minutes, stock up at Lidl on a quiet day (my preferred version of Fortnum and Mason) pop to the butcher, go to the petrol station, buy some fish and chips. 83p change to their charity box for the local hospice. Done and fun. And conversation with old friends as you do it will put you back in you are pressed for time.
Which planet are you from by the way?
Yes but what is the point of doing all of these things, given that all of them can be done more quickly and easily, and at less risk to both buyer and vendor, than using cash? There is literally no point to any of it – it's just a complete waste of time and materials to do exactly the same thing you could do with BACs/contactless/ApplePay.
I mean a couple of mates are doing Movember – I suppose I could have posted them some notes and change and had them spend it in Lidl before putting the digital money in their charity fund on my behalf, then somehow claiming the GiftAid via telegraph to the Taxman.
But what would be the point?
The point is freedom of choice
I would like to see you try to exercise such freedom of choice when a mate sends you a payment link for his Movember charity drive...
Your capacity to misunderstand must be deliberate. It can't be actual dimness. It is not suggested that cash is appropriate to all transactions, just that it should be an option for many day to day transactions.
The pub that has just opened near me is cashless. Endgame for the pointless tokens and shards.
I have had £50 in cash in my wallet for 6 months... can't get rid of it.
My grandchildren's Saturday morning 'Grandma's helpers' would resolve that problem
Can't even give it to my friends kids, they all have apple pay on their phone / watched attached to accounts. They want to be cool and tap it like the adults.
I have to trudge to the bank if any relatives insist on posting (yes posting!) cash to my son for a gift. He cannot use it to buy the things he buys (online games for his PS5, electronics from online retailers), so it is just an entirely pointless chore that could have been avoided had they just transferred the money – which takes 60 seconds.
Inability to dispose of cash - say any sum under a couple of hundred pounds - within a reasonably short time displays an extraordinary lack of imagination. It can be done in minutes or even seconds by an expert. Can this really only be true in the small town rural north of England?
Really? Without receiving even more pointless "change" – or being that guy who asks whether he can pay some in cash and the rest with card?
Yes, Really. And small change can be got rid of in a multitude of ways including charity boxes/tins and in a slot near the door in any church, or at community coffee mornings etc. As to getting rid of £200 cash in minutes, stock up at Lidl on a quiet day (my preferred version of Fortnum and Mason) pop to the butcher, go to the petrol station, buy some fish and chips. 83p change to their charity box for the local hospice. Done and fun. And conversation with old friends as you do it will put you back in you are pressed for time.
Which planet are you from by the way?
Down the off license to get the booze in for the family parties…
Sorry, the £200 cash I started with has all gone in minutes. Hold on while I get some out of the hole in the wall. Meanwhile here's a picture of a Norman conquest period BACS transfer
As usual I continue posting on dead threads. Idiot that I am. Replies to @kinabalu and @Cookie on the last thread. Sorry.
Thanks. Conversely, my 20s and very early 30s in retrospect felt like I was treading water without any obvious route forward. Plenty of present, which was not unpleasant, but no obvious route to a future. Life didn't really get going for me until I met my now wife when I was 31. I'd have loved to find some way to marry (and breed) earlier, but as I didn't actually find the woman of my dreams until I was 31 I havr no regrets about waiting. We got on with it as quickly as we could...
One just spins a theme around life. You see that at some point. Then you're all at sea. So it all becomes spinning something around this almost undecomposable bigger understanding. (I've no idea where it goes from there, because I'm still young!)
I'm surprised that older people tend to become more conservative - not my experience so far (at 74). What I do feel is a certain acceptance that people will find their own way, which may or may not be my broadly left-wing attitude. I feel strongly about helping people on low incomes, especially in poor countries, but otherwise I'm pretty relaxed about how things go (and I'm still a CLP constituency chair).
Quite effective, I think. Guarding the Reform-inclined flank, as well.
That is pretty good. Well done Kemi. Simple and straightforward yet - as you imply - that is what is needed. Sounds honest. Direct. Straight to camera. She's certainly more likeable and less shifty than Sir Sheer Wanker
And yet, by all accounts, she is dire at PMQs (not watched it)
Hmmm........
Not all accounts
Just a couple of Starmer’s fan base who seem to be getting very wound up by her, whilst their leaders government languishes at 19% approval
I don't think anyone could claim she's a brilliant PMQs performer. She's pretty dire - but then the last really good one was probably Cameron?
And in the same way approval ratings and polling aren't particularly good indicators for an election 4.5 years away, she's got plenty of time to improve.
Kemi is young and inexperienced but very different and as you say the election is 4 plus years away and lots of events in between
I am happy with her and would caution her opponents not to underestimate her
The pub that has just opened near me is cashless. Endgame for the pointless tokens and shards.
I have had £50 in cash in my wallet for 6 months... can't get rid of it.
My grandchildren's Saturday morning 'Grandma's helpers' would resolve that problem
Can't even give it to my friends kids, they all have apple pay on their phone / watched attached to accounts. They want to be cool and tap it like the adults.
I have to trudge to the bank if any relatives insist on posting (yes posting!) cash to my son for a gift. He cannot use it to buy the things he buys (online games for his PS5, electronics from online retailers), so it is just an entirely pointless chore that could have been avoided had they just transferred the money – which takes 60 seconds.
Inability to dispose of cash - say any sum under a couple of hundred pounds - within a reasonably short time displays an extraordinary lack of imagination. It can be done in minutes or even seconds by an expert. Can this really only be true in the small town rural north of England?
Really? Without receiving even more pointless "change" – or being that guy who asks whether he can pay some in cash and the rest with card?
Yes, Really. And small change can be got rid of in a multitude of ways including charity boxes/tins and in a slot near the door in any church, or at community coffee mornings etc. As to getting rid of £200 cash in minutes, stock up at Lidl on a quiet day (my preferred version of Fortnum and Mason) pop to the butcher, go to the petrol station, buy some fish and chips. 83p change to their charity box for the local hospice. Done and fun. And conversation with old friends as you do it will put you back in you are pressed for time.
Which planet are you from by the way?
Yes but what is the point of doing all of these things, given that all of them can be done more quickly and easily, and at less risk to both buyer and vendor, than using cash? There is literally no point to any of it – it's just a complete waste of time and materials to do exactly the same thing you could do with BACs/contactless/ApplePay.
I mean a couple of mates are doing Movember – I suppose I could have posted them some notes and change and had them spend it in Lidl before putting the digital money in their charity fund on my behalf, then somehow claiming the GiftAid via telegraph to the Taxman.
But what would be the point?
The point is freedom of choice
I would like to see you try to exercise such freedom of choice when a mate sends you a payment link for his Movember charity drive...
Your capacity to misunderstand must be deliberate. It can't be actual dimness. It is not suggested that cash is appropriate to all transactions, just that it should be an option for many day to day transactions.
The heads of government of Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Latvia, Norway, Poland, and Sweden agreed to strengthen their support to Ukraine in the coming months to counter Russia's full-scale war during a summit in Harpsund on Nov. 27.
"In the coming months, we will step up our support, including to the Ukrainian defense industry, and we will invest in making more ammunition available to Ukraine."
What side will Britain be on? Will Starmer increase support for Ukraine? Has anyone asked him?
As usual I continue posting on dead threads. Idiot that I am. Replies to @kinabalu and @Cookie on the last thread. Sorry.
Thanks. Conversely, my 20s and very early 30s in retrospect felt like I was treading water without any obvious route forward. Plenty of present, which was not unpleasant, but no obvious route to a future. Life didn't really get going for me until I met my now wife when I was 31. I'd have loved to find some way to marry (and breed) earlier, but as I didn't actually find the woman of my dreams until I was 31 I havr no regrets about waiting. We got on with it as quickly as we could...
One just spins a theme around life. You see that at some point. Then you're all at sea. So it all becomes spinning something around this almost undecomposable bigger understanding. (I've no idea where it goes from there, because I'm still young!)
I'm surprised that older people tend to become more conservative - not my experience so far (at 74). What I do feel is a certain acceptance that people will find their own way, which may or may not be my broadly left-wing attitude. I feel strongly about helping people on low incomes, especially in poor countries, but otherwise I'm pretty relaxed about how things go (and I'm still a CLP constituency chair).
Ah, each to their own. Having talked to you a little in the prior years I was very surprised you swung heavily behind Corbyn. I suspect that you may have even surprised yourself. Who knows how ones personal tides may flow.
For what it's worth I'm straying very slightly leftward I think, although that may just because the forces of the right are demonstrating an astonishing level of stupidity.
For comparison, during the Korean War, we were spending about 11% of our GDP on defence, falling to 7%, about Russia's level today, in 1959, and the 1950s were a time of growing prosperity here and in the US, which spent similar amounts. These levels are eminently affordable in the short and medium term, even if the usual caveats about Russian statistics apply. To get up to 40-50% you need to go back to the Second World War.
He may find it difficult to maintain the standard of living for the Russian masses, i.e. to have both guns and butter, but even there, the evidence is ambiguous, since working class Russians are benefiting hugely from high salaries in the military - if they survive - and booming wages due to a shortage of labour.
It won't be economic pressure, or sanctions, that break Putin's will - it will be Ukrainian men smashing his armies with Western weapons on the fields of Donetsk, Luhansk and Zaporizhe. Which is why we need to supply as many powerful weapons as possible as soon as possible, or reconcile ourselves to a Russian victory, with all the consequent disasters for the free world.
750,000 dead or wounded Russians, when you consider how few there are of conscriptable age, is quite a lot though.
To put in context, there are only about 4.5 million Russian men aged between 18 and 24.
You're thinking about it as a civilised, humane Westerner, to whom every life is precious. Here a deliberate decision to crash a couple of jumbo jets every day would indeed be unacceptable.
But Putin doesn't give the slightest flying fuck about prisoners, foreigners, mercenaries or alcoholics from Russia's Asian or Muslim provinces. He no doubt thinks Russia is better off without most of those, especially now that its old professional army was destroyed in the first year of the invasion, or more likely he doesn't think about them at all. He thinks he is winning because his forces are gaining a few square miles in eastern Ukraine. The only thing he worries about is whether he can replace those losses. So far he can, and unlike in Ukraine, there's not much sign manpower is running out.
And don't expect the Russian people to revolt either - they put up with much worse economically in the 90s, and, as someone once observed, the greater the danger they're in, the more apathetic Russians become. They might of course revolt, but they have no real tradition of successful popular revolutions in Russia, and there are no signs of it yet.
Any focus on Russian weaknesses, and hope for Russian "implosion" (predicted dozens of times already) takes away from the vital task of providing the advanced weapons in the huge numbers the Ukrainians need to beat the Russians back. There is no other way to win the war, or even to tie it acceptably.
The pub that has just opened near me is cashless. Endgame for the pointless tokens and shards.
I have had £50 in cash in my wallet for 6 months... can't get rid of it.
My grandchildren's Saturday morning 'Grandma's helpers' would resolve that problem
Can't even give it to my friends kids, they all have apple pay on their phone / watched attached to accounts. They want to be cool and tap it like the adults.
I have to trudge to the bank if any relatives insist on posting (yes posting!) cash to my son for a gift. He cannot use it to buy the things he buys (online games for his PS5, electronics from online retailers), so it is just an entirely pointless chore that could have been avoided had they just transferred the money – which takes 60 seconds.
Inability to dispose of cash - say any sum under a couple of hundred pounds - within a reasonably short time displays an extraordinary lack of imagination. It can be done in minutes or even seconds by an expert. Can this really only be true in the small town rural north of England?
Really? Without receiving even more pointless "change" – or being that guy who asks whether he can pay some in cash and the rest with card?
Yes, Really. And small change can be got rid of in a multitude of ways including charity boxes/tins and in a slot near the door in any church, or at community coffee mornings etc. As to getting rid of £200 cash in minutes, stock up at Lidl on a quiet day (my preferred version of Fortnum and Mason) pop to the butcher, go to the petrol station, buy some fish and chips. 83p change to their charity box for the local hospice. Done and fun. And conversation with old friends as you do it will put you back in you are pressed for time.
Which planet are you from by the way?
Yes but what is the point of doing all of these things, given that all of them can be done more quickly and easily, and at less risk to both buyer and vendor, than using cash? There is literally no point to any of it – it's just a complete waste of time and materials to do exactly the same thing you could do with BACs/contactless/ApplePay.
I mean a couple of mates are doing Movember – I suppose I could have posted them some notes and change and had them spend it in Lidl before putting the digital money in their charity fund on my behalf, then somehow claiming the GiftAid via telegraph to the Taxman.
But what would be the point?
The point of doing as I described (not far off my reality sometimes) is that it answered fully the issue of how to deal with cash in a non cumbersome way. It's easy. There are many transactions where I can, and sometimes do, work in exactly this way.
Of course I don't for most, including your example.
However there is a group of people still, I am told, who live simpler lives than the rest of us and mainly use cash. The BBC says it's 1.5 million and growing. Fair play to them.
Up to them. I wouldn't ban it.
But, it is a pointless waste of time and materials.
As usual I continue posting on dead threads. Idiot that I am. Replies to @kinabalu and @Cookie on the last thread. Sorry.
Thanks. Conversely, my 20s and very early 30s in retrospect felt like I was treading water without any obvious route forward. Plenty of present, which was not unpleasant, but no obvious route to a future. Life didn't really get going for me until I met my now wife when I was 31. I'd have loved to find some way to marry (and breed) earlier, but as I didn't actually find the woman of my dreams until I was 31 I havr no regrets about waiting. We got on with it as quickly as we could...
One just spins a theme around life. You see that at some point. Then you're all at sea. So it all becomes spinning something around this almost undecomposable bigger understanding. (I've no idea where it goes from there, because I'm still young!)
I'm surprised that older people tend to become more conservative - not my experience so far (at 74). What I do feel is a certain acceptance that people will find their own way, which may or may not be my broadly left-wing attitude. I feel strongly about helping people on low incomes, especially in poor countries, but otherwise I'm pretty relaxed about how things go (and I'm still a CLP constituency chair).
Didn't you start out on the far-left somewhere, and move more towards the centre?
That's more conservative, if so .
That was the trajectory of quite a number from Generation Blair & Friends, if I recall.
NEWS: Two unnamed Nissan executives said the company has "12 to 14 months to survive."
Nissan cut more than 9,000 jobs earlier this month, while simultaneously slashing production by nearly 20%. Nissan's operating profit dropped 85% in Q3.
The new industrial revolution is very tough on legacy manufacturers like Vauxhall and Nissan.
VW are discussing cutting 10s of thousands of jobs in Germany - albeit from just under 300k to start with. On top of a desire to impose pay cuts of 10%.
They are stating that their factory costs are 25-50% too high.
I've just viewed Kemi Badenoch's PPB on YouTube (I know it isn't a PPB as such but it looked and sounded like one).
I thought the mea culpa was interesting though I noted she was quick to show Blair, Brown, Cameron and Clegg but didn't show the Prime Ministers around whose Cabinet table she sat. This was unconvincing - she was there, indeed front and centre, and needs to admit her part more than a just a general "we got it wrong and so did everyone else since Blair".
To be fair, it was 99% platitude and nothing we haven't heard before - the proof will be in whatever proposals are eventually put forward by the Conservatives before the next election and I suspect whatever those are won't be enough for Reform.
Will there be a "new Rwanda" policy? Perhaps but I will credit her with the fact she alludes to "trade offs" so IF her plan to reduce immigration means we will all have to pay higher taxes for, perhaps, enhanced border security, I look forward to her arguing that point on the hustings. At least it'll be an honest approach rather then the guff we've heard in the past.
IF we are going to have an honest debate on immigration, which I would welcome, let's look at the consequences of reducing immigration to the numbers some on the Conservative/Reform side seem to advocate in terms of inflation, taxation and the provision of public services.
For comparison, during the Korean War, we were spending about 11% of our GDP on defence, falling to 7%, about Russia's level today, in 1959, and the 1950s were a time of growing prosperity here and in the US, which spent similar amounts. These levels are eminently affordable in the short and medium term, even if the usual caveats about Russian statistics apply. To get up to 40-50% you need to go back to the Second World War.
He may find it difficult to maintain the standard of living for the Russian masses, i.e. to have both guns and butter, but even there, the evidence is ambiguous, since working class Russians are benefiting hugely from high salaries in the military - if they survive - and booming wages due to a shortage of labour.
It won't be economic pressure, or sanctions, that break Putin's will - it will be Ukrainian men smashing his armies with Western weapons on the fields of Donetsk, Luhansk and Zaporizhe. Which is why we need to supply as many powerful weapons as possible as soon as possible, or reconcile ourselves to a Russian victory, with all the consequent disasters for the free world.
750,000 dead or wounded Russians, when you consider how few there are of conscriptable age, is quite a lot though.
To put in context, there are only about 4.5 million Russian men aged between 18 and 24.
You're thinking about it as a civilised, humane Westerner, to whom every life is precious. Here a deliberate decision to crash a couple of jumbo jets every day would indeed be unacceptable.
But Putin doesn't give the slightest flying fuck about prisoners, foreigners, mercenaries or alcoholics from Russia's Asian or Muslim provinces. He no doubt thinks Russia is better off without most of those, especially now that its old professional army was destroyed in the first year of the invasion, or more likely he doesn't think about them at all. He thinks he is winning because his forces are gaining a few square miles in eastern Ukraine. The only thing he worries about is whether he can replace those losses. So far he can, and unlike in Ukraine, there's not much sign manpower is running out.
And don't expect the Russian people to revolt either - they put up with much worse economically in the 90s, and, as someone once observed, the greater the danger they're in, the more apathetic Russians become. They might of course revolt, but they have no real tradition of successful popular revolutions in Russia, and there are no signs of it yet.
Any focus on Russian weaknesses, and hope for Russian "implosion" (predicted dozens of times already) takes away from the vital task of providing the advanced weapons in the huge numbers the Ukrainians need to beat the Russians back. There is no other way to win the war, or even to tie it acceptably.
To people like Putin having a Big Army is part of having Big Weapons.
The demographic collapse of Russia is a big deal to him. Hence wanting to… absorb all those Slavic Ukrainians.
NEWS: Two unnamed Nissan executives said the company has "12 to 14 months to survive."
Nissan cut more than 9,000 jobs earlier this month, while simultaneously slashing production by nearly 20%. Nissan's operating profit dropped 85% in Q3.
The new industrial revolution is very tough on legacy manufacturers like Vauxhall and Nissan.
VW are discussing cutting 10s of thousands of jobs in Germany - albeit from just under 300k to start with. On top of a desire to impose pay cuts of 10%.
They are stating that their factory costs are 25-50% too high.
The pub that has just opened near me is cashless. Endgame for the pointless tokens and shards.
I have had £50 in cash in my wallet for 6 months... can't get rid of it.
My grandchildren's Saturday morning 'Grandma's helpers' would resolve that problem
Can't even give it to my friends kids, they all have apple pay on their phone / watched attached to accounts. They want to be cool and tap it like the adults.
I have to trudge to the bank if any relatives insist on posting (yes posting!) cash to my son for a gift. He cannot use it to buy the things he buys (online games for his PS5, electronics from online retailers), so it is just an entirely pointless chore that could have been avoided had they just transferred the money – which takes 60 seconds.
Inability to dispose of cash - say any sum under a couple of hundred pounds - within a reasonably short time displays an extraordinary lack of imagination. It can be done in minutes or even seconds by an expert. Can this really only be true in the small town rural north of England?
Really? Without receiving even more pointless "change" – or being that guy who asks whether he can pay some in cash and the rest with card?
Yes, Really. And small change can be got rid of in a multitude of ways including charity boxes/tins and in a slot near the door in any church, or at community coffee mornings etc. As to getting rid of £200 cash in minutes, stock up at Lidl on a quiet day (my preferred version of Fortnum and Mason) pop to the butcher, go to the petrol station, buy some fish and chips. 83p change to their charity box for the local hospice. Done and fun. And conversation with old friends as you do it will put you back in you are pressed for time.
Which planet are you from by the way?
Yes but what is the point of doing all of these things, given that all of them can be done more quickly and easily, and at less risk to both buyer and vendor, than using cash? There is literally no point to any of it – it's just a complete waste of time and materials to do exactly the same thing you could do with BACs/contactless/ApplePay.
I mean a couple of mates are doing Movember – I suppose I could have posted them some notes and change and had them spend it in Lidl before putting the digital money in their charity fund on my behalf, then somehow claiming the GiftAid via telegraph to the Taxman.
But what would be the point?
The point of doing as I described (not far off my reality sometimes) is that it answered fully the issue of how to deal with cash in a non cumbersome way. It's easy. There are many transactions where I can, and sometimes do, work in exactly this way.
Of course I don't for most, including your example.
However there is a group of people still, I am told, who live simpler lives than the rest of us and mainly use cash. The BBC says it's 1.5 million and growing. Fair play to them.
In contrast to the mentality which buys an expensive phone and watch every 2-3 years because that's all they last for battery and security wise. Bastards (I mean the makers).
*having to buy a new phone because the security on my perfectly good old one is not being updated now*
Telegraph David Lammy has said he would seek an arrest warrant for Benjamin Netanyahu if he visited the UK.
The Foreign Secretary said he would be obliged by law to go to the courts seeking permission for the arrest, saying he had no “discretion” over the issue.
The position is a stark contrast to France, which became the latest Western country to say it would not arrest the Israeli prime minister, leaving Britain isolated among its G7 allies.
NEWS: Two unnamed Nissan executives said the company has "12 to 14 months to survive."
Nissan cut more than 9,000 jobs earlier this month, while simultaneously slashing production by nearly 20%. Nissan's operating profit dropped 85% in Q3.
The new industrial revolution is very tough on legacy manufacturers like Vauxhall and Nissan.
VW are discussing cutting 10s of thousands of jobs in Germany - albeit from just under 300k to start with. On top of a desire to impose pay cuts of 10%.
They are stating that their factory costs are 25-50% too high.
NEWS: Two unnamed Nissan executives said the company has "12 to 14 months to survive."
Nissan cut more than 9,000 jobs earlier this month, while simultaneously slashing production by nearly 20%. Nissan's operating profit dropped 85% in Q3.
Starmer loses Sunderland if his incompetence puts Nissan through the hoop!
N.B. presumably that means Renault and Mitsubishi are in trouble too. Bloody Starmer!
Telegraph David Lammy has said he would seek an arrest warrant for Benjamin Netanyahu if he visited the UK.
The Foreign Secretary said he would be obliged by law to go to the courts seeking permission for the arrest, saying he had no “discretion” over the issue.
The position is a stark contrast to France, which became the latest Western country to say it would not arrest the Israeli prime minister, leaving Britain isolated among its G7 allies.
Do Heads of Government and foreign ministers not travel with diplomatic immunity?
The pub that has just opened near me is cashless. Endgame for the pointless tokens and shards.
I have had £50 in cash in my wallet for 6 months... can't get rid of it.
My grandchildren's Saturday morning 'Grandma's helpers' would resolve that problem
Can't even give it to my friends kids, they all have apple pay on their phone / watched attached to accounts. They want to be cool and tap it like the adults.
I have to trudge to the bank if any relatives insist on posting (yes posting!) cash to my son for a gift. He cannot use it to buy the things he buys (online games for his PS5, electronics from online retailers), so it is just an entirely pointless chore that could have been avoided had they just transferred the money – which takes 60 seconds.
Inability to dispose of cash - say any sum under a couple of hundred pounds - within a reasonably short time displays an extraordinary lack of imagination. It can be done in minutes or even seconds by an expert. Can this really only be true in the small town rural north of England?
Really? Without receiving even more pointless "change" – or being that guy who asks whether he can pay some in cash and the rest with card?
Yes, Really. And small change can be got rid of in a multitude of ways including charity boxes/tins and in a slot near the door in any church, or at community coffee mornings etc. As to getting rid of £200 cash in minutes, stock up at Lidl on a quiet day (my preferred version of Fortnum and Mason) pop to the butcher, go to the petrol station, buy some fish and chips. 83p change to their charity box for the local hospice. Done and fun. And conversation with old friends as you do it will put you back in you are pressed for time.
Which planet are you from by the way?
Yes but what is the point of doing all of these things, given that all of them can be done more quickly and easily, and at less risk to both buyer and vendor, than using cash? There is literally no point to any of it – it's just a complete waste of time and materials to do exactly the same thing you could do with BACs/contactless/ApplePay.
I mean a couple of mates are doing Movember – I suppose I could have posted them some notes and change and had them spend it in Lidl before putting the digital money in their charity fund on my behalf, then somehow claiming the GiftAid via telegraph to the Taxman.
But what would be the point?
The point of doing as I described (not far off my reality sometimes) is that it answered fully the issue of how to deal with cash in a non cumbersome way. It's easy. There are many transactions where I can, and sometimes do, work in exactly this way.
Of course I don't for most, including your example.
However there is a group of people still, I am told, who live simpler lives than the rest of us and mainly use cash. The BBC says it's 1.5 million and growing. Fair play to them.
Up to them. I wouldn't ban it.
But, it is a pointless waste of time and materials.
T R U S S
One of the illicit pleasures of my distant youth was playing three-card brag for threepenny bits and tanners. It's a pity future generations should be deprived of this, but I suppose it's gone the same way as hopscotch in a bomb site or bowling a hoop along an empty dusty high street. Three-card brag is a test of character in a way online video games can never be. You are face-to-face with your friends and their cash is jingling in your pocket. One of the survival tricks was to furtively remove your winnings from the table rather than let it build up. Being cautious by nature I had this problem more often than not.
The pub that has just opened near me is cashless. Endgame for the pointless tokens and shards.
I have had £50 in cash in my wallet for 6 months... can't get rid of it.
My grandchildren's Saturday morning 'Grandma's helpers' would resolve that problem
Can't even give it to my friends kids, they all have apple pay on their phone / watched attached to accounts. They want to be cool and tap it like the adults.
I have to trudge to the bank if any relatives insist on posting (yes posting!) cash to my son for a gift. He cannot use it to buy the things he buys (online games for his PS5, electronics from online retailers), so it is just an entirely pointless chore that could have been avoided had they just transferred the money – which takes 60 seconds.
Inability to dispose of cash - say any sum under a couple of hundred pounds - within a reasonably short time displays an extraordinary lack of imagination. It can be done in minutes or even seconds by an expert. Can this really only be true in the small town rural north of England?
Really? Without receiving even more pointless "change" – or being that guy who asks whether he can pay some in cash and the rest with card?
Yes, Really. And small change can be got rid of in a multitude of ways including charity boxes/tins and in a slot near the door in any church, or at community coffee mornings etc. As to getting rid of £200 cash in minutes, stock up at Lidl on a quiet day (my preferred version of Fortnum and Mason) pop to the butcher, go to the petrol station, buy some fish and chips. 83p change to their charity box for the local hospice. Done and fun. And conversation with old friends as you do it will put you back in you are pressed for time.
Which planet are you from by the way?
Yes but what is the point of doing all of these things, given that all of them can be done more quickly and easily, and at less risk to both buyer and vendor, than using cash? There is literally no point to any of it – it's just a complete waste of time and materials to do exactly the same thing you could do with BACs/contactless/ApplePay.
I mean a couple of mates are doing Movember – I suppose I could have posted them some notes and change and had them spend it in Lidl before putting the digital money in their charity fund on my behalf, then somehow claiming the GiftAid via telegraph to the Taxman.
But what would be the point?
The point is freedom of choice
I would like to see you try to exercise such freedom of choice when a mate sends you a payment link for his Movember charity drive...
Your capacity to misunderstand must be deliberate. It can't be actual dimness. It is not suggested that cash is appropriate to all transactions, just that it should be an option for many day to day transactions.
The pub that has just opened near me is cashless. Endgame for the pointless tokens and shards.
I have had £50 in cash in my wallet for 6 months... can't get rid of it.
My grandchildren's Saturday morning 'Grandma's helpers' would resolve that problem
Can't even give it to my friends kids, they all have apple pay on their phone / watched attached to accounts. They want to be cool and tap it like the adults.
I have to trudge to the bank if any relatives insist on posting (yes posting!) cash to my son for a gift. He cannot use it to buy the things he buys (online games for his PS5, electronics from online retailers), so it is just an entirely pointless chore that could have been avoided had they just transferred the money – which takes 60 seconds.
I think they might be trying to tell you something
Well given he called a high risk EU referendum just a year after finally winning a general election majority, not a big surprise
Cameron lost a child so I do not think that is appropriate comment not least because he must have given it serious thought and his decision should be respected
Telegraph David Lammy has said he would seek an arrest warrant for Benjamin Netanyahu if he visited the UK.
The Foreign Secretary said he would be obliged by law to go to the courts seeking permission for the arrest, saying he had no “discretion” over the issue.
The position is a stark contrast to France, which became the latest Western country to say it would not arrest the Israeli prime minister, leaving Britain isolated among its G7 allies.
Telegraph David Lammy has said he would seek an arrest warrant for Benjamin Netanyahu if he visited the UK.
The Foreign Secretary said he would be obliged by law to go to the courts seeking permission for the arrest, saying he had no “discretion” over the issue.
The position is a stark contrast to France, which became the latest Western country to say it would not arrest the Israeli prime minister, leaving Britain isolated among its G7 allies.
Do Heads of Government and foreign ministers not travel with diplomatic immunity?
Can you even imagine the scenario where UK arrested Netanyahu on a visit to the UK ?
The pub that has just opened near me is cashless. Endgame for the pointless tokens and shards.
I have had £50 in cash in my wallet for 6 months... can't get rid of it.
My grandchildren's Saturday morning 'Grandma's helpers' would resolve that problem
Can't even give it to my friends kids, they all have apple pay on their phone / watched attached to accounts. They want to be cool and tap it like the adults.
I have to trudge to the bank if any relatives insist on posting (yes posting!) cash to my son for a gift. He cannot use it to buy the things he buys (online games for his PS5, electronics from online retailers), so it is just an entirely pointless chore that could have been avoided had they just transferred the money – which takes 60 seconds.
Inability to dispose of cash - say any sum under a couple of hundred pounds - within a reasonably short time displays an extraordinary lack of imagination. It can be done in minutes or even seconds by an expert. Can this really only be true in the small town rural north of England?
Really? Without receiving even more pointless "change" – or being that guy who asks whether he can pay some in cash and the rest with card?
Yes, Really. And small change can be got rid of in a multitude of ways including charity boxes/tins and in a slot near the door in any church, or at community coffee mornings etc. As to getting rid of £200 cash in minutes, stock up at Lidl on a quiet day (my preferred version of Fortnum and Mason) pop to the butcher, go to the petrol station, buy some fish and chips. 83p change to their charity box for the local hospice. Done and fun. And conversation with old friends as you do it will put you back in you are pressed for time.
Which planet are you from by the way?
Yes but what is the point of doing all of these things, given that all of them can be done more quickly and easily, and at less risk to both buyer and vendor, than using cash? There is literally no point to any of it – it's just a complete waste of time and materials to do exactly the same thing you could do with BACs/contactless/ApplePay.
I mean a couple of mates are doing Movember – I suppose I could have posted them some notes and change and had them spend it in Lidl before putting the digital money in their charity fund on my behalf, then somehow claiming the GiftAid via telegraph to the Taxman.
But what would be the point?
The point is freedom of choice
I would like to see you try to exercise such freedom of choice when a mate sends you a payment link for his Movember charity drive...
Your capacity to misunderstand must be deliberate. It can't be actual dimness. It is not suggested that cash is appropriate to all transactions, just that it should be an option for many day to day transactions.
Why?
It can be actual dimness.
What's the point of cash?
Got me a small discount on my takeout this evening
The pub that has just opened near me is cashless. Endgame for the pointless tokens and shards.
I have had £50 in cash in my wallet for 6 months... can't get rid of it.
My grandchildren's Saturday morning 'Grandma's helpers' would resolve that problem
Can't even give it to my friends kids, they all have apple pay on their phone / watched attached to accounts. They want to be cool and tap it like the adults.
I have to trudge to the bank if any relatives insist on posting (yes posting!) cash to my son for a gift. He cannot use it to buy the things he buys (online games for his PS5, electronics from online retailers), so it is just an entirely pointless chore that could have been avoided had they just transferred the money – which takes 60 seconds.
Inability to dispose of cash - say any sum under a couple of hundred pounds - within a reasonably short time displays an extraordinary lack of imagination. It can be done in minutes or even seconds by an expert. Can this really only be true in the small town rural north of England?
Really? Without receiving even more pointless "change" – or being that guy who asks whether he can pay some in cash and the rest with card?
Yes, Really. And small change can be got rid of in a multitude of ways including charity boxes/tins and in a slot near the door in any church, or at community coffee mornings etc. As to getting rid of £200 cash in minutes, stock up at Lidl on a quiet day (my preferred version of Fortnum and Mason) pop to the butcher, go to the petrol station, buy some fish and chips. 83p change to their charity box for the local hospice. Done and fun. And conversation with old friends as you do it will put you back in you are pressed for time.
Which planet are you from by the way?
Yes but what is the point of doing all of these things, given that all of them can be done more quickly and easily, and at less risk to both buyer and vendor, than using cash? There is literally no point to any of it – it's just a complete waste of time and materials to do exactly the same thing you could do with BACs/contactless/ApplePay.
I mean a couple of mates are doing Movember – I suppose I could have posted them some notes and change and had them spend it in Lidl before putting the digital money in their charity fund on my behalf, then somehow claiming the GiftAid via telegraph to the Taxman.
But what would be the point?
The point is freedom of choice
I would like to see you try to exercise such freedom of choice when a mate sends you a payment link for his Movember charity drive...
Your capacity to misunderstand must be deliberate. It can't be actual dimness. It is not suggested that cash is appropriate to all transactions, just that it should be an option for many day to day transactions.
Why?
It can be actual dimness.
What's the point of cash?
Got me a small discount on my takeout this evening
Mr. Anabob “How much for 2 fish suppers?” Chip shop staff “£25 or £20 for cash.”.Mr Anabob “Here’s my card. It’s worth £5 for the convenience of not using cash”.
NEWS: Two unnamed Nissan executives said the company has "12 to 14 months to survive."
Nissan cut more than 9,000 jobs earlier this month, while simultaneously slashing production by nearly 20%. Nissan's operating profit dropped 85% in Q3.
The new industrial revolution is very tough on legacy manufacturers like Vauxhall and Nissan.
VW are discussing cutting 10s of thousands of jobs in Germany - albeit from just under 300k to start with. On top of a desire to impose pay cuts of 10%.
They are stating that their factory costs are 25-50% too high.
The pub that has just opened near me is cashless. Endgame for the pointless tokens and shards.
I have had £50 in cash in my wallet for 6 months... can't get rid of it.
My grandchildren's Saturday morning 'Grandma's helpers' would resolve that problem
Can't even give it to my friends kids, they all have apple pay on their phone / watched attached to accounts. They want to be cool and tap it like the adults.
I have to trudge to the bank if any relatives insist on posting (yes posting!) cash to my son for a gift. He cannot use it to buy the things he buys (online games for his PS5, electronics from online retailers), so it is just an entirely pointless chore that could have been avoided had they just transferred the money – which takes 60 seconds.
Inability to dispose of cash - say any sum under a couple of hundred pounds - within a reasonably short time displays an extraordinary lack of imagination. It can be done in minutes or even seconds by an expert. Can this really only be true in the small town rural north of England?
Really? Without receiving even more pointless "change" – or being that guy who asks whether he can pay some in cash and the rest with card?
Yes, Really. And small change can be got rid of in a multitude of ways including charity boxes/tins and in a slot near the door in any church, or at community coffee mornings etc. As to getting rid of £200 cash in minutes, stock up at Lidl on a quiet day (my preferred version of Fortnum and Mason) pop to the butcher, go to the petrol station, buy some fish and chips. 83p change to their charity box for the local hospice. Done and fun. And conversation with old friends as you do it will put you back in you are pressed for time.
Which planet are you from by the way?
Yes but what is the point of doing all of these things, given that all of them can be done more quickly and easily, and at less risk to both buyer and vendor, than using cash? There is literally no point to any of it – it's just a complete waste of time and materials to do exactly the same thing you could do with BACs/contactless/ApplePay.
I mean a couple of mates are doing Movember – I suppose I could have posted them some notes and change and had them spend it in Lidl before putting the digital money in their charity fund on my behalf, then somehow claiming the GiftAid via telegraph to the Taxman.
But what would be the point?
The point is freedom of choice
I would like to see you try to exercise such freedom of choice when a mate sends you a payment link for his Movember charity drive...
Your capacity to misunderstand must be deliberate. It can't be actual dimness. It is not suggested that cash is appropriate to all transactions, just that it should be an option for many day to day transactions.
Why?
It can be actual dimness.
What's the point of cash?
Got me a small discount on my takeout this evening
Mr. Anabob “How much for 2 fish suppers?” Chip shop staff “£25 or £20 for cash.”.Mr Anabob “Here’s my card. It’s worth £5 for the convenience of not using cash”.
And I’ll be calling the revenue in the morning as you are clearly offering to not pay VAT…
As usual I continue posting on dead threads. Idiot that I am. Replies to @kinabalu and @Cookie on the last thread. Sorry.
Thanks. Conversely, my 20s and very early 30s in retrospect felt like I was treading water without any obvious route forward. Plenty of present, which was not unpleasant, but no obvious route to a future. Life didn't really get going for me until I met my now wife when I was 31. I'd have loved to find some way to marry (and breed) earlier, but as I didn't actually find the woman of my dreams until I was 31 I havr no regrets about waiting. We got on with it as quickly as we could...
One just spins a theme around life. You see that at some point. Then you're all at sea. So it all becomes spinning something around this almost undecomposable bigger understanding. (I've no idea where it goes from there, because I'm still young!)
I'm surprised that older people tend to become more conservative - not my experience so far (at 74). What I do feel is a certain acceptance that people will find their own way, which may or may not be my broadly left-wing attitude. I feel strongly about helping people on low incomes, especially in poor countries, but otherwise I'm pretty relaxed about how things go (and I'm still a CLP constituency chair).
I've certainly become more liberal as I have got older, which I also think is against the norm of becoming more conservative (with a small c) with age.
So, will Reform be out-leafleting the LDs for next May?
I think they have at least one problem in that they do not have decades of canvas returns to know who their voters of, or to have many individual interest profiles.
There's a kind of vibe about Reform which has more in common with a football team than a conventional political party. The MAGA Republican Party, and the SNP are similar in that respect. Pejoratively you might call it a cult. Definitely a thing, though. And not at all welcome.
Well done to Starmer for parrying the demand for (effectively) blasphemy laws from a Labour MP at PMQs today.
Many people self-enforce a non blasphemy code out of ordinary respect for others. Quite a lot don't. Nearly all self-enforce bits of non blasphemy code out of terror of being killed.
Of these three only the first is any good.
Yeah, we already have a blasphemy law (which only protects Islam) perforce
The only solution to this is the utter expulsion of radical Islam. It ain't gonna be pretty. But that's where are
The pub that has just opened near me is cashless. Endgame for the pointless tokens and shards.
I have had £50 in cash in my wallet for 6 months... can't get rid of it.
My grandchildren's Saturday morning 'Grandma's helpers' would resolve that problem
Can't even give it to my friends kids, they all have apple pay on their phone / watched attached to accounts. They want to be cool and tap it like the adults.
I have to trudge to the bank if any relatives insist on posting (yes posting!) cash to my son for a gift. He cannot use it to buy the things he buys (online games for his PS5, electronics from online retailers), so it is just an entirely pointless chore that could have been avoided had they just transferred the money – which takes 60 seconds.
Inability to dispose of cash - say any sum under a couple of hundred pounds - within a reasonably short time displays an extraordinary lack of imagination. It can be done in minutes or even seconds by an expert. Can this really only be true in the small town rural north of England?
Really? Without receiving even more pointless "change" – or being that guy who asks whether he can pay some in cash and the rest with card?
Yes, Really. And small change can be got rid of in a multitude of ways including charity boxes/tins and in a slot near the door in any church, or at community coffee mornings etc. As to getting rid of £200 cash in minutes, stock up at Lidl on a quiet day (my preferred version of Fortnum and Mason) pop to the butcher, go to the petrol station, buy some fish and chips. 83p change to their charity box for the local hospice. Done and fun. And conversation with old friends as you do it will put you back in you are pressed for time.
Which planet are you from by the way?
Yes but what is the point of doing all of these things, given that all of them can be done more quickly and easily, and at less risk to both buyer and vendor, than using cash? There is literally no point to any of it – it's just a complete waste of time and materials to do exactly the same thing you could do with BACs/contactless/ApplePay.
I mean a couple of mates are doing Movember – I suppose I could have posted them some notes and change and had them spend it in Lidl before putting the digital money in their charity fund on my behalf, then somehow claiming the GiftAid via telegraph to the Taxman.
But what would be the point?
The point is freedom of choice
I would like to see you try to exercise such freedom of choice when a mate sends you a payment link for his Movember charity drive...
Your capacity to misunderstand must be deliberate. It can't be actual dimness. It is not suggested that cash is appropriate to all transactions, just that it should be an option for many day to day transactions.
Badenoch raised the petition? What on earth was she thinking
KB has always been a very online politician. That's not an altogether bad thing, but it does rather warp one's perspective. In online world, this petition has legs.
One of her predecessors as Conservative leader had something to say about being excessively online. And whilst Badenoch may mature and improve, she hasn't shown much sign of learning so far.
As usual I continue posting on dead threads. Idiot that I am. Replies to @kinabalu and @Cookie on the last thread. Sorry.
Thanks. Conversely, my 20s and very early 30s in retrospect felt like I was treading water without any obvious route forward. Plenty of present, which was not unpleasant, but no obvious route to a future. Life didn't really get going for me until I met my now wife when I was 31. I'd have loved to find some way to marry (and breed) earlier, but as I didn't actually find the woman of my dreams until I was 31 I havr no regrets about waiting. We got on with it as quickly as we could...
One just spins a theme around life. You see that at some point. Then you're all at sea. So it all becomes spinning something around this almost undecomposable bigger understanding. (I've no idea where it goes from there, because I'm still young!)
I'm surprised that older people tend to become more conservative - not my experience so far (at 74). What I do feel is a certain acceptance that people will find their own way, which may or may not be my broadly left-wing attitude. I feel strongly about helping people on low incomes, especially in poor countries, but otherwise I'm pretty relaxed about how things go (and I'm still a CLP constituency chair).
People have only become more conservative as they have aged, because they have become richer as they have aged.
The pub that has just opened near me is cashless. Endgame for the pointless tokens and shards.
I have had £50 in cash in my wallet for 6 months... can't get rid of it.
My grandchildren's Saturday morning 'Grandma's helpers' would resolve that problem
Can't even give it to my friends kids, they all have apple pay on their phone / watched attached to accounts. They want to be cool and tap it like the adults.
I have to trudge to the bank if any relatives insist on posting (yes posting!) cash to my son for a gift. He cannot use it to buy the things he buys (online games for his PS5, electronics from online retailers), so it is just an entirely pointless chore that could have been avoided had they just transferred the money – which takes 60 seconds.
Inability to dispose of cash - say any sum under a couple of hundred pounds - within a reasonably short time displays an extraordinary lack of imagination. It can be done in minutes or even seconds by an expert. Can this really only be true in the small town rural north of England?
Really? Without receiving even more pointless "change" – or being that guy who asks whether he can pay some in cash and the rest with card?
Yes, Really. And small change can be got rid of in a multitude of ways including charity boxes/tins and in a slot near the door in any church, or at community coffee mornings etc. As to getting rid of £200 cash in minutes, stock up at Lidl on a quiet day (my preferred version of Fortnum and Mason) pop to the butcher, go to the petrol station, buy some fish and chips. 83p change to their charity box for the local hospice. Done and fun. And conversation with old friends as you do it will put you back in you are pressed for time.
Which planet are you from by the way?
Yes but what is the point of doing all of these things, given that all of them can be done more quickly and easily, and at less risk to both buyer and vendor, than using cash? There is literally no point to any of it – it's just a complete waste of time and materials to do exactly the same thing you could do with BACs/contactless/ApplePay.
I mean a couple of mates are doing Movember – I suppose I could have posted them some notes and change and had them spend it in Lidl before putting the digital money in their charity fund on my behalf, then somehow claiming the GiftAid via telegraph to the Taxman.
But what would be the point?
The point is freedom of choice
I would like to see you try to exercise such freedom of choice when a mate sends you a payment link for his Movember charity drive...
Your capacity to misunderstand must be deliberate. It can't be actual dimness. It is not suggested that cash is appropriate to all transactions, just that it should be an option for many day to day transactions.
Why?
It can be actual dimness.
What's the point of cash?
Got me a small discount on my takeout this evening
Mr. Anabob “How much for 2 fish suppers?” Chip shop staff “£25 or £20 for cash.”.Mr Anabob “Here’s my card. It’s worth £5 for the convenience of not using cash”.
And I’ll be calling the revenue in the morning as you are clearly offering to not pay VAT…
My sister-in-law used to work for Customs and Excise back when it was responsible for VAT. Office staff were often asked to go out on expenses to fast food outlets, offer to pay cash... and the restaurant's books would subsequently be checked to see if the meal appeared.
NEWS: Two unnamed Nissan executives said the company has "12 to 14 months to survive."
Nissan cut more than 9,000 jobs earlier this month, while simultaneously slashing production by nearly 20%. Nissan's operating profit dropped 85% in Q3.
The new industrial revolution is very tough on legacy manufacturers like Vauxhall and Nissan.
VW are discussing cutting 10s of thousands of jobs in Germany - albeit from just under 300k to start with. On top of a desire to impose pay cuts of 10%.
They are stating that their factory costs are 25-50% too high.
Quite effective, I think. Guarding the Reform-inclined flank, as well.
That is pretty good. Well done Kemi. Simple and straightforward yet - as you imply - that is what is needed. Sounds honest. Direct. Straight to camera. She's certainly more likeable and less shifty than Sir Sheer Wanker
And yet, by all accounts, she is dire at PMQs (not watched it)
Hmmm........
Not all accounts
Just a couple of Starmer’s fan base who seem to be getting very wound up by her, whilst their leaders government languishes at 19% approval
I don't think anyone could claim she's a brilliant PMQs performer. She's pretty dire - but then the last really good one was probably Cameron?
And in the same way approval ratings and polling aren't particularly good indicators for an election 4.5 years away, she's got plenty of time to improve.
Kemi's problem, in addition to so far just not being all that good, is that everything she says either points up the uselessness of the governing outfit she was part of by agreeing with it, or by shifting away from it, or by drawing attention to how hard it is for Labour to deal with the Tory legacy.
Unless and until - there is time - she deals with core philosophy, core principle and coherent policy, and what it is to be a mainstream Tory right now (I voted Tory for 50 years and have no idea what they think on any of these things) she is wasting her time and ours.
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Will originally had left wing political views but his views shifted toward conservatism during his studies at Oxford, especially after visiting Communist-controlled East Berlin in the mid-1960s."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Will
(Will, like the late Nat Hentoff, is consistently pro--life, opposing both capital punishment and aborting "defective" babies.)
To put in context, there are only about 4.5 million Russian men aged between 18 and 24.
Pretty sure the former would have remained true regardless of the latter.
Which planet are you from by the way?
Thinly-veiled FBI job preservation scheme imo.
The ex-Cabinet minister is working for Caxton Associates for up to two days a month for a six-month period, according to the Hertsmere MP's register of interests.
He is being paid £60,000 in his role at the fund
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14132975/Former-deputy-PM-Oliver-Dowden-picks-500-hour-strategy-adviser-job-Mayfair-based-hedge-fund-pushed-Rishi-Sunak-calling-early-general-election.html
Tory donor, you say?
"We need to talk about immigration".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpgV-hT6puc
Quite effective, I think. Guarding the Reform-inclined flank, as well.
All over the world the last year I've had drivers enthusing about the cheapness and reliability of Chinese cars
Never change, PB.
And yet, by all accounts, she is dire at PMQs (not watched it)
Hmmm........
I mean a couple of mates are doing Movember – I suppose I could have posted them some notes and change and had them spend it in Lidl before putting the digital money in their charity fund on my behalf, then somehow claiming the GiftAid via telegraph to the Taxman.
But what would be the point?
Political 🤡 show moves into the private sector..🥴
There's probably another one on the other side. It's driven by clearance height for electric mainline rail.
What do you think? I reckon Network Rail are massively far from what is possible, as ever. That's too energy sapping to be done by manual wheelchairs, and difficult for nonstandard cycles. They are driven like by minimum cost to meet legal requirements rather than a practical solution, or thinking about the public.
That could be much better with landscaping, or done useable for everyone as an underpass *. There are plenty of ways of doing such without serious interruption to the trains.
* People can't jump in front of trains from underpasses !
Just a couple of Starmer’s fan base who seem to be getting very wound up by her, whilst their leaders government languishes at 19% approval
The ladies like it too, iirc. I also recall somewhat significant bills.
But it's a stonker of a walk to the nearest Night Bus for Chiswick, iirc. One to attend on a Brompton these days, perhaps.
Of course I don't for most, including your example.
However there is a group of people still, I am told, who live simpler lives than the rest of us and mainly use cash. The BBC says it's 1.5 million and growing. Fair play to them.
Careful what you wish
Careful what you say
Careful what you wish
You may regret it
Careful what you wish
You just might get it
The idea we are going cashless anytime soon is simply nonsense
But, it is a pointless waste of time and materials.
And in the same way approval ratings and polling aren't particularly good indicators for an election 4.5 years away, she's got plenty of time to improve.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0en8wn100jo
I am happy with her and would caution her opponents not to underestimate her
Should be entertaining at least. I wouldn't expect many nil nils.
The heads of government of Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Latvia, Norway, Poland, and Sweden agreed to strengthen their support to Ukraine in the coming months to counter Russia's full-scale war during a summit in Harpsund on Nov. 27.
"In the coming months, we will step up our support, including to the Ukrainian defense industry, and we will invest in making more ammunition available to Ukraine."
What side will Britain be on? Will Starmer increase support for Ukraine? Has anyone asked him?
For what it's worth I'm straying very slightly leftward I think, although that may just because the forces of the right are demonstrating an astonishing level of stupidity.
But Putin doesn't give the slightest flying fuck about prisoners, foreigners, mercenaries or alcoholics from Russia's Asian or Muslim provinces. He no doubt thinks Russia is better off without most of those, especially now that its old professional army was destroyed in the first year of the invasion, or more likely he doesn't think about them at all. He thinks he is winning because his forces are gaining a few square miles in eastern Ukraine. The only thing he worries about is whether he can replace those losses. So far he can, and unlike in Ukraine, there's not much sign manpower is running out.
And don't expect the Russian people to revolt either - they put up with much worse economically in the 90s, and, as someone once observed, the greater the danger they're in, the more apathetic Russians become. They might of course revolt, but they have no real tradition of successful popular revolutions in Russia, and there are no signs of it yet.
Any focus on Russian weaknesses, and hope for Russian "implosion" (predicted dozens of times already) takes away from the vital task of providing the advanced weapons in the huge numbers the Ukrainians need to beat the Russians back. There is no other way to win the war, or even to tie it acceptably.
That's more conservative, if so
That was the trajectory of quite a number from Generation Blair & Friends, if I recall.
They are stating that their factory costs are 25-50% too high.
https://www.euronews.com/business/2024/10/28/volkswagen-set-to-close-three-german-plants-and-cut-thousands-of-jobs
I thought the mea culpa was interesting though I noted she was quick to show Blair, Brown, Cameron and Clegg but didn't show the Prime Ministers around whose Cabinet table she sat. This was unconvincing - she was there, indeed front and centre, and needs to admit her part more than a just a general "we got it wrong and so did everyone else since Blair".
To be fair, it was 99% platitude and nothing we haven't heard before - the proof will be in whatever proposals are eventually put forward by the Conservatives before the next election and I suspect whatever those are won't be enough for Reform.
Will there be a "new Rwanda" policy? Perhaps but I will credit her with the fact she alludes to "trade offs" so IF her plan to reduce immigration means we will all have to pay higher taxes for, perhaps, enhanced border security, I look forward to her arguing that point on the hustings. At least it'll be an honest approach rather then the guff we've heard in the past.
IF we are going to have an honest debate on immigration, which I would welcome, let's look at the consequences of reducing immigration to the numbers some on the Conservative/Reform side seem to advocate in terms of inflation, taxation and the provision of public services.
The demographic collapse of Russia is a big deal to him. Hence wanting to… absorb all those Slavic Ukrainians.
*having to buy a new phone because the security on my perfectly good old one is not being updated now*
David Lammy has said he would seek an arrest warrant for Benjamin Netanyahu if he visited the UK.
The Foreign Secretary said he would be obliged by law to go to the courts seeking permission for the arrest, saying he had no “discretion” over the issue.
The position is a stark contrast to France, which became the latest Western country to say it would not arrest the Israeli prime minister, leaving Britain isolated among its G7 allies.
https://x.com/steven_swinford/status/1861876405203608000
N.B. presumably that means Renault and Mitsubishi are in trouble too. Bloody Starmer!
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/canada-to-go-uk-way-on-netanyahu-arrest-trudeau-says-will-abide-by-icc-warrant-7086684
Plus 'ICC warrants also sparked tension within Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni’s coalition.
Italian Defense Minister Guido Crosetto said Rome would have to abide by its obligations and arrest Netanyahu if he came to Italy, while Matteo Salvini — the leader of the coalition League party — said the Israeli leader would be welcome in the country.'
https://www.timesofisrael.com/italy-says-clarity-needed-on-icc-arrest-warrants-for-netanyahu-gallant/
What odds on that in the same match ?
Mr. Anabob “How much for 2 fish suppers?” Chip shop staff “£25 or £20 for cash.”.Mr Anabob “Here’s my card. It’s worth £5 for the convenience of not using cash”.
And I’ll be calling the revenue in the morning as you are clearly offering to not pay VAT…
The only solution to this is the utter expulsion of radical Islam. It ain't gonna be pretty. But that's where are
One of her predecessors as Conservative leader had something to say about being excessively online. And whilst Badenoch may mature and improve, she hasn't shown much sign of learning so far.
She needs to.
My sister-in-law used to work for Customs and Excise back when it was responsible for VAT. Office staff were often asked to go out on expenses to fast food outlets, offer to pay cash... and the restaurant's books would subsequently be checked to see if the meal appeared.
Unless and until - there is time - she deals with core philosophy, core principle and coherent policy, and what it is to be a mainstream Tory right now (I voted Tory for 50 years and have no idea what they think on any of these things) she is wasting her time and ours.