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  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,274
    Sean_F said:

    Powerful stuff in the header. The deniers bemuse me - naaah, he won't do that, or even naah, he didn't say that. Despite the evil enemies of Murica like Jake Tapper having the evidence.

    The deniers keep saying "he is winning". Which is of course what the Twitter algorithm is rigged to suggest. Maybe he is. The question isn't "could he win" - its "should he be allowed to win"

    We’ve reached a geopolitical outlook as disturbing as the 1930’s.

    In two weeks’ time the USA might have ceased to be an ally to the UK and Europe. We’ve had ample warning that we have to step up, but we preferred to free ride.

    Poland and the Baltic States have ramped up military spending, but most European leaders (including UK Conservatives), think that “International Law” is enough of a defence.
    True . Europe needs to look after itself and has been in denial for years .

    Even if Harris wins it’s time as you said to “ step up”.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,031
    Sean_F said:

    Powerful stuff in the header. The deniers bemuse me - naaah, he won't do that, or even naah, he didn't say that. Despite the evil enemies of Murica like Jake Tapper having the evidence.

    The deniers keep saying "he is winning". Which is of course what the Twitter algorithm is rigged to suggest. Maybe he is. The question isn't "could he win" - its "should he be allowed to win"

    We’ve reached a geopolitical outlook as disturbing as the 1930’s.

    In two weeks’ time the USA might have ceased to be an ally to the UK and Europe. We’ve had ample warning that we have to step up, but we preferred to free ride.

    Poland and the Baltic States have ramped up military spending, but most European leaders (including UK Conservatives), think that “International Law” is enough of a defence.
    Or are still pretending it’s never going to happen.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,060
    edited October 27
    Foxy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Yougov CBS

    National Harris 50% Trump 49%

    Battlegrounds Harris 50% Trump 50%
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-harris-poll-gender-gap/

    I have to say that I am finding these polls very unhelpful.
    Well, yes.

    (stuffs fist into mouth to prevent the screams)
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,031
    Nigelb said:

    JFC, the ‘comic’ at Madison Square…
    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1850613109402013792

    No one who booked that guy should be running anything.

    There’s another Kamala positive.
    She’ll have Beyoncé or Springsteen instead.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,541

    TimS said:

    Nothing says Sunday evening as much as the Antiques roadshow theme, except perhaps Songs of Praise or Poirot, with the trains.

    Nothing tops this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwoeSQMz7VU
    I'd say this. Beautiful mix of jazz, art deco and trains:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmx6dQJf_rk&pp=ygUMcG9pcm90IHRoZW1l

    It just oozes the sophisticated 1930s. Apt.
    The only problem is I *despise* Poirot, both in TV and book form.

    But if you want art deco:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMkqA016VyQ
    How can you despise Poirot? He's fantastic. Nothing more relaxing that watching a Poirot.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,031
    william prefers this sort of positive discourse.

    "She is some sick bastard, that Hillary Clinton. What a sick son of a bitch. The whole fucking party. A bunch of degenerates. Lowlives, Jew-haters, and lowlives. Every one of 'em. Every one of 'em."
    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1850618361400463682
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,583
    Sean_F said:

    Powerful stuff in the header. The deniers bemuse me - naaah, he won't do that, or even naah, he didn't say that. Despite the evil enemies of Murica like Jake Tapper having the evidence.

    The deniers keep saying "he is winning". Which is of course what the Twitter algorithm is rigged to suggest. Maybe he is. The question isn't "could he win" - its "should he be allowed to win"

    We’ve reached a geopolitical outlook as disturbing as the 1930’s.

    In two weeks’ time the USA might have ceased to be an ally to the UK and Europe. We’ve had ample warning that we have to step up, but we preferred to free ride.

    Poland and the Baltic States have ramped up military spending, but most European leaders (including UK Conservatives), think that “International Law” is enough of a defence.
    How would you rate Trump as an ally versus De Gaulle in the 1960s?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,031
    Nigelb said:

    JFC, the ‘comic’ at Madison Square…
    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1850613109402013792

    No one who booked that guy should be running anything.

    Not an aberration.

    “There’s a lot going on. I don’t know if you know this but there’s literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now. I think it’s called Puerto Rico”
    https://x.com/Acyn/status/1850613597304455412
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,274
    When does the Nazi flag waving start at the Bund Rally ?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,098
    Andy_JS said:

    TimS said:

    Nothing says Sunday evening as much as the Antiques roadshow theme, except perhaps Songs of Praise or Poirot, with the trains.

    Nothing tops this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwoeSQMz7VU
    I'd say this. Beautiful mix of jazz, art deco and trains:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmx6dQJf_rk&pp=ygUMcG9pcm90IHRoZW1l

    It just oozes the sophisticated 1930s. Apt.
    The only problem is I *despise* Poirot, both in TV and book form.

    But if you want art deco:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMkqA016VyQ
    How can you despise Poirot? He's fantastic. Nothing more relaxing that watching a Poirot.
    Indeed.

    You do get some jolting opinions on here sometimes.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,546
    Andy_JS said:

    TimS said:

    Nothing says Sunday evening as much as the Antiques roadshow theme, except perhaps Songs of Praise or Poirot, with the trains.

    Nothing tops this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwoeSQMz7VU
    I'd say this. Beautiful mix of jazz, art deco and trains:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmx6dQJf_rk&pp=ygUMcG9pcm90IHRoZW1l

    It just oozes the sophisticated 1930s. Apt.
    The only problem is I *despise* Poirot, both in TV and book form.

    But if you want art deco:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMkqA016VyQ
    How can you despise Poirot? He's fantastic. Nothing more relaxing that watching a Poirot.
    There's something about him in both written and TV form I just find... creepy. That's not quite the right word, but he just sets my nerves jangling.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,546
    kinabalu said:

    Andy_JS said:

    TimS said:

    Nothing says Sunday evening as much as the Antiques roadshow theme, except perhaps Songs of Praise or Poirot, with the trains.

    Nothing tops this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwoeSQMz7VU
    I'd say this. Beautiful mix of jazz, art deco and trains:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmx6dQJf_rk&pp=ygUMcG9pcm90IHRoZW1l

    It just oozes the sophisticated 1930s. Apt.
    The only problem is I *despise* Poirot, both in TV and book form.

    But if you want art deco:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMkqA016VyQ
    How can you despise Poirot? He's fantastic. Nothing more relaxing that watching a Poirot.
    Indeed.

    You do get some jolting opinions on here sometimes.
    Curryagte!
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,274
    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    JFC, the ‘comic’ at Madison Square…
    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1850613109402013792

    No one who booked that guy should be running anything.

    Not an aberration.

    “There’s a lot going on. I don’t know if you know this but there’s literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now. I think it’s called Puerto Rico”
    https://x.com/Acyn/status/1850613597304455412
    Good grief . What an absolute hate fest .
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,198
    Nigelb said:

    Sean_F said:

    Powerful stuff in the header. The deniers bemuse me - naaah, he won't do that, or even naah, he didn't say that. Despite the evil enemies of Murica like Jake Tapper having the evidence.

    The deniers keep saying "he is winning". Which is of course what the Twitter algorithm is rigged to suggest. Maybe he is. The question isn't "could he win" - its "should he be allowed to win"

    We’ve reached a geopolitical outlook as disturbing as the 1930’s.

    In two weeks’ time the USA might have ceased to be an ally to the UK and Europe. We’ve had ample warning that we have to step up, but we preferred to free ride.

    Poland and the Baltic States have ramped up military spending, but most European leaders (including UK Conservatives), think that “International Law” is enough of a defence.
    Or are still pretending it’s never going to happen.
    Herman Kahn note the phenomenon, where if a problem is big enough, the decision makers don’t just ignore it. They active persecute anyone who tries to bring it to their attention, “For being problematic”.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 3,078
    Andy_JS said:

    TimS said:

    Nothing says Sunday evening as much as the Antiques roadshow theme, except perhaps Songs of Praise or Poirot, with the trains.

    Nothing tops this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwoeSQMz7VU
    I'd say this. Beautiful mix of jazz, art deco and trains:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmx6dQJf_rk&pp=ygUMcG9pcm90IHRoZW1l

    It just oozes the sophisticated 1930s. Apt.
    The only problem is I *despise* Poirot, both in TV and book form.

    But if you want art deco:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMkqA016VyQ
    How can you despise Poirot? He's fantastic. Nothing more relaxing that watching a Poirot.
    The Poirot series with David Suchet was hardly well-lit enough to see what was happening. At the time, I read somewhere that the producers wanted to be reasonably accurate about the lighting levels in those days. But it made watching very hard work.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,848
    edited October 27
    kinabalu said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Omnium said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Omnium said:

    malcolmg said:

    Omnium said:

    My Mum has had a very busy weekend and decided not to bother cooking tonight; her and Dad are having a takeaway curry

    So she's given me the rack of local lamb (from the best local farmshop) that she was going to cook

    There's a whole.pound of it, so I've decided to just make a red wine, garlic and herb (rosemary, thyme and chives) sauce to go with

    Even minus fat and bones, a pound of French trimmed lamb rack has to be enough for one?

    I'll know in about an hour

    Oh you brute! Rack of lamb!.. FFS.

    I'm having a chilli, although there is a vaguely enticing aspect that I've been stewing some dried chillis for several hours - one has become huge! It'll be just chilli though and the best bit will probably be the hefty cheese contrast.
    Fillet steaks with peppercorn sauce in chez Malc
    Are you any good as a cook? I'm not although once or twice in my life I've stumbled into getting it right. I've never got a steak right though, but in part that's due to smoke alarms.
    if smoke alarms are going off you are over cooking it
    Possibly, but steak cooked rare in very hot butter can definitely set off a smoke alarm if it's too close to the hob
    Exactly that
    My smoke alarms have all been disabled admittedly so maybe butter fried would set them off however I never cook steaks more that 5 seconds a side either
    Another small victory for 'Pagan against the system', eh?
    I'm with Pagan on this. I dislike all alarms. More trouble than they're worth. Ditto almost all insurance. Don't do any of that stuff.
    Compulsory door closers is another one. A fire precaution. Imagine escaping a fire. Try opening your front door against one... while holding on to your Zimmer frame.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,031
    He seems nice, too.

    Grant Cardone calls Mark Cuban a "simp" and says Kamala Harris has "pimp handlers." He then says of Democrats "we need to slaughter these other people"
    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1850625175068332131

    I hope @GarethoftheVale2 is getting his dose of positive.
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,274

    Sean_F said:

    Powerful stuff in the header. The deniers bemuse me - naaah, he won't do that, or even naah, he didn't say that. Despite the evil enemies of Murica like Jake Tapper having the evidence.

    The deniers keep saying "he is winning". Which is of course what the Twitter algorithm is rigged to suggest. Maybe he is. The question isn't "could he win" - its "should he be allowed to win"

    We’ve reached a geopolitical outlook as disturbing as the 1930’s.

    In two weeks’ time the USA might have ceased to be an ally to the UK and Europe. We’ve had ample warning that we have to step up, but we preferred to free ride.

    Poland and the Baltic States have ramped up military spending, but most European leaders (including UK Conservatives), think that “International Law” is enough of a defence.
    How would you rate Trump as an ally versus De Gaulle in the 1960s?
    Shouldn’t you be changing your profile pic ? You might otherwise give the wrong impression that you support Ukraine .
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,031
    Almost every speaker at this rally has claimed that "they" tried to kill Trump
    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1850634324963385682
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 6,722

    On the topic of Sunday music, I've been listening to gospel all day today

    My favourite gospel song is Just A Closer Walk With Me. This might be because it's in the opening scene of of one my favourite movies, White Men Can't Jump

    Woody is looking for a game at Venice Beach and asks the old dudes. The ask for a donation, so he gives them a dollar. They give him a dollar's worth

    Best dollar he ever spent

    https://youtu.be/mliSs_CWxnQ?si=JcPxdIJS77VgeFkK

    My favourite video of the song, even though the audio quality is ropey, is this one of Mahalia Jackson at the Newport jazz festival. Louis Armstrong comes on stage to sing with her near the end

    https://youtu.be/8C2cSMZ3Ftg?si=ILOcRB8ET9xUkJCt

    We have just had Evensong.

    We have Gospel to Proclaim (tune Fulda)
    Lord thy Word abideth (tune Ravenshaw)

    Thou whose almighty word (tune Moscow)
    The Church is one foundation (tune aurelia)
    4 rousing hyms ...perfect for Evensong.

    4 great hymns assoc with Bible Sunday

  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,392
    Andy_JS said:

    TimS said:

    Nothing says Sunday evening as much as the Antiques roadshow theme, except perhaps Songs of Praise or Poirot, with the trains.

    Nothing tops this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwoeSQMz7VU
    I'd say this. Beautiful mix of jazz, art deco and trains:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmx6dQJf_rk&pp=ygUMcG9pcm90IHRoZW1l

    It just oozes the sophisticated 1930s. Apt.
    The only problem is I *despise* Poirot, both in TV and book form.

    But if you want art deco:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMkqA016VyQ
    How can you despise Poirot? He's fantastic. Nothing more relaxing that watching a Poirot.
    Despite recent attempts to re-imagine both Poirot and Miss Marple, both have, I think, such iconic portrayals that there is little that should be done with them beyond showing them again. As period set drama they don’t age that much either.

    Sadly I know the stories far too well, so have recently started reading the Lord Peter Wimsey series. Enjoying it so far.
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,707
    nico679 said:

    When does the Nazi flag waving start at the Bund Rally ?

    Ferguson: "The fact that Harris has resorted to playing the Hitler card is a sign of desperation, so I'll go ahead and say it. She's losing this election. "
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,060

    Nigelb said:

    Sean_F said:

    Powerful stuff in the header. The deniers bemuse me - naaah, he won't do that, or even naah, he didn't say that. Despite the evil enemies of Murica like Jake Tapper having the evidence.

    The deniers keep saying "he is winning". Which is of course what the Twitter algorithm is rigged to suggest. Maybe he is. The question isn't "could he win" - its "should he be allowed to win"

    We’ve reached a geopolitical outlook as disturbing as the 1930’s.

    In two weeks’ time the USA might have ceased to be an ally to the UK and Europe. We’ve had ample warning that we have to step up, but we preferred to free ride.

    Poland and the Baltic States have ramped up military spending, but most European leaders (including UK Conservatives), think that “International Law” is enough of a defence.
    Or are still pretending it’s never going to happen.
    Herman Kahn note the phenomenon, where if a problem is big enough, the decision makers don’t just ignore it. They active persecute anyone who tries to bring it to their attention, “For being problematic”.
    "Don't Look Up"
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,366
    edited October 27
    Depressingly, all these clips from the Trump rally suggest that overt racism is no longer considered a barrier to electoral success. The USA is going backwards.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,977
    @madrid_mike

    Trump knows he’s going to lose. He’s rallying his base for violence.
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,274
    geoffw said:

    nico679 said:

    When does the Nazi flag waving start at the Bund Rally ?

    Ferguson: "The fact that Harris has resorted to playing the Hitler card is a sign of desperation, so I'll go ahead and say it. She's losing this election. "
    Ferguson should stfu ! It was Trump who was arselicking Hitiers generals , everyone with a functioning brain cell knows it’s the sort of thing he’d say .
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,775
    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    JFC, the ‘comic’ at Madison Square…
    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1850613109402013792

    No one who booked that guy should be running anything.

    Not an aberration.

    “There’s a lot going on. I don’t know if you know this but there’s literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now. I think it’s called Puerto Rico”
    https://x.com/Acyn/status/1850613597304455412
    Holy cow. They've really taken the 'fascist' thing to heart. I could almost see this as a Mel Brooks segment in earlier times.

    image

    "And then I said to the Führer, 'Have you heard this one about the Latino's? No - well! They...."
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,031

    Andy_JS said:

    TimS said:

    Nothing says Sunday evening as much as the Antiques roadshow theme, except perhaps Songs of Praise or Poirot, with the trains.

    Nothing tops this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwoeSQMz7VU
    I'd say this. Beautiful mix of jazz, art deco and trains:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmx6dQJf_rk&pp=ygUMcG9pcm90IHRoZW1l

    It just oozes the sophisticated 1930s. Apt.
    The only problem is I *despise* Poirot, both in TV and book form.

    But if you want art deco:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMkqA016VyQ
    How can you despise Poirot? He's fantastic. Nothing more relaxing that watching a Poirot.
    There's something about him in both written and TV form I just find... creepy. That's not quite the right word, but he just sets my nerves jangling.
    Suchet is a fanatastic actor (saw him many years ago as Bolingbroke in Richard II), but his performance isn’t for everyone.
    Apparently he perfected Poirot’s gait by holding a sixpence between his arse cheeks. Miss Marple would not have approved.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,198

    Andy_JS said:

    TimS said:

    Nothing says Sunday evening as much as the Antiques roadshow theme, except perhaps Songs of Praise or Poirot, with the trains.

    Nothing tops this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwoeSQMz7VU
    I'd say this. Beautiful mix of jazz, art deco and trains:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmx6dQJf_rk&pp=ygUMcG9pcm90IHRoZW1l

    It just oozes the sophisticated 1930s. Apt.
    The only problem is I *despise* Poirot, both in TV and book form.

    But if you want art deco:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMkqA016VyQ
    How can you despise Poirot? He's fantastic. Nothing more relaxing that watching a Poirot.
    Despite recent attempts to re-imagine both Poirot and Miss Marple, both have, I think, such iconic portrayals that there is little that should be done with them beyond showing them again. As period set drama they don’t age that much either.

    Sadly I know the stories far too well, so have recently started reading the Lord Peter Wimsey series. Enjoying it so far.

    May I offer you, in addition, a little advice. Bear in mind that the amateur professional is peculiarly rapacious. This applies both to
    women and to people who play cards. If you must back horses, back them at a reasonable price and both ways. And, if you insist on
    blowing out your brains, do it in some place where you will not cause mess and inconvenience.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,848
    edited October 27
    Keir Starmer appoints former Blair and Brown aide as his political director
    ...
    [Claire] Reynolds, who is also the wife of the business secretary, Jonathan Reynolds, will have to handle the sensitive task of liaising with Labour’s 403 MPs

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/oct/27/keir-starmer-appoints-former-blair-and-brown-aide-as-his-political-director

    Lloyd George knew my father; Father knew Lloyd George.
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 9,870
    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Foxy said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Foxy said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Foxy said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Foxy said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Here is an example of nhs waste for you. Two days now since I lost my ventolin inhaler and cant get a prescription.....fighting with national health 111 all I am asking for is give me an emergency prescription in case I have an attack....they keep insisting despite having been prescribed it for 40 odd years I have to goto a walk in centre I can't actually get to rather than just issuing the prescription to get me through...if I have an asthma attack tonight the nhs will have to raise an ambulance.....get me in ed....give me oxygen etc...its not like its a dangerous or addictive drug

    So an asthma attack will cost the a couple of thousand rather than just issuing the fucking prescription

    Writing as an asthmatic of 80 years standing, and a pharmacist, albeit now retired, why not go to a pharmacy, explain the circumstances and buy one.
    Of course, you could do what I do and ALWAYS have a spare!
    I tried that they said they cant sell me one....told me to ring nhs 111 to send them an emergency prescription spent two days now going in circles where they tell me they can't do it unless I goto the walk in centre which I cant get to as I have no car
    You aren't registered with a GP, so where have your previous prescriptions come from?

    Pharmacists will dispense in anticipation of a repeat prescription if you regularly fill prescriptions with them. If not then they cannot provide Prescription Only Medicines.
    Err because I was registered with a gp before I moved to devon two years ago which last filled the prescription and yes the inhaler I lost was probably out of date
    In that case you should still be registered with your previous GP, who should be able to access their records and issue a repeat.
    I doubt that I a told them I wasn't on their books anymore as they were useless
    Should also add I don't want to register at my local gp's as they are even worse
    Well that ought to teach 'em.
    Why should they be paid for not giving any service? Please explain...if I am ill they won't see me till I am either better or dead....I have been asthmatic for a long time 30 odd years so the work diagnosing that is nil
    The service is repeat prescriptions, but for that there need to be records.

    The per-capita element of GP pay is a bit "win some, lose some" some registered patients never need an appointment, others are in every week.

    Why do I need a gp for that when I know what I need is an inhaler prescription. GP's are largely worthless for the majority of people
    well, it is a prescription only medicine, and GPs can write these. They may be a bit more useful than you think.
    So there use is they can write a prescription for something you have already been diagnosed with?

    They in my case get £137 pounds per year for writing me a repeat perscription once a year for an inhaler....then you wonder why we think the nhs is wasting money
    as I said "win some, lose some"

    For the average patient it is 5-6 consultations per year, so excellent value at £137.

    It would be nearly twice that for a single private consultation at Spire.
    The average patient on a gp list? Is that one of those twisted statistics in which 65% of people in the list don’t see their doctor from decade to the next, and 5% twice a week?
    I am not a GP, but apparently about 40% of appointments are taken up by heavy users who have 15-20 appointments per year, so it is heavily skewed.

    I havent seen my GP for over 5 years, but do have an annual BP review and bloods with the practice nurse. Its a requirement for getting repeat prescriptions, but seems very reasonable to me.
    I think my last gp I saw 3 times in 20 years. The number of times tried to see them was probably 4 to 5 times that but no point having the appointment after you are better
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,031
    geoffw said:

    nico679 said:

    When does the Nazi flag waving start at the Bund Rally ?

    Ferguson: "The fact that Harris has resorted to playing the Hitler card is a sign of desperation, so I'll go ahead and say it. She's losing this election. "
    The fact that Trump is clearly a wannabe autocrat invalidates that observation.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,583
    Scott_xP said:

    @madrid_mike

    Trump knows he’s going to lose. He’s rallying his base for violence.

    Isn't it the opposite that we are supposed to fear? That he will rally his base for violence after he wins.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,546

    Andy_JS said:

    TimS said:

    Nothing says Sunday evening as much as the Antiques roadshow theme, except perhaps Songs of Praise or Poirot, with the trains.

    Nothing tops this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwoeSQMz7VU
    I'd say this. Beautiful mix of jazz, art deco and trains:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmx6dQJf_rk&pp=ygUMcG9pcm90IHRoZW1l

    It just oozes the sophisticated 1930s. Apt.
    The only problem is I *despise* Poirot, both in TV and book form.

    But if you want art deco:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMkqA016VyQ
    How can you despise Poirot? He's fantastic. Nothing more relaxing that watching a Poirot.
    Despite recent attempts to re-imagine both Poirot and Miss Marple, both have, I think, such iconic portrayals that there is little that should be done with them beyond showing them again. As period set drama they don’t age that much either.

    Sadly I know the stories far too well, so have recently started reading the Lord Peter Wimsey series. Enjoying it so far.
    Wimsey is a thousand times better than Poirot. In both written and TV form (as portrayed by Ian Carmichael). Though he only really takes off when Harriet Vane joins the stories. I love their interactions (and with Bunter as well). Perhaps it's the PTSD that features in many of the stories (shell shock from WW1) that grants the character a little humour and humility.

    This is a hill I will die on. ;)
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,775

    Andy_JS said:

    TimS said:

    Nothing says Sunday evening as much as the Antiques roadshow theme, except perhaps Songs of Praise or Poirot, with the trains.

    Nothing tops this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwoeSQMz7VU
    I'd say this. Beautiful mix of jazz, art deco and trains:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmx6dQJf_rk&pp=ygUMcG9pcm90IHRoZW1l

    It just oozes the sophisticated 1930s. Apt.
    The only problem is I *despise* Poirot, both in TV and book form.

    But if you want art deco:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMkqA016VyQ
    How can you despise Poirot? He's fantastic. Nothing more relaxing that watching a Poirot.
    Despite recent attempts to re-imagine both Poirot and Miss Marple, both have, I think, such iconic portrayals that there is little that should be done with them beyond showing them again. As period set drama they don’t age that much either.

    Sadly I know the stories far too well, so have recently started reading the Lord Peter Wimsey series. Enjoying it so far.
    I have quite a lot of Poirot/Marple stories saved on my phone. Very good to dip into as 'bed-time stories' as they are so familiar to me. And I don't feel that guilty if I drift off and have to guesstimate where to start again the next night.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 8,638

    Depressingly, all these clips from the Trump rally suggest that overt racism is no longer considered a barrier to electoral success. The USA is going backwards.

    All the swearing - "cursing" - is a surprise. I don't remember that being a thing in US politics previously, and Trump never did.

    That's a big, and possibly emblematic, change in this election.
  • darkagedarkage Posts: 5,398
    Regarding this election, whoever wins wins. I am not voting in it, so I cannot do anything about it. Both scenarios are bad; the risks with Trump being slightly greater and more existential in nature.

    The one thing I find quite unbelievable is the idea that Harris is going to sort out the war in Ukraine. I guess she would probably just continue the existing policy of drip feeding support to prolong an existing stalemate in the hope of a Russian collapse that seems unlikely to happen, whilst domestic opposition to the war in the US increases, other geopolitical challenges mount up, and Europe uses the US/NATO as protection so as to avoid spending on defence. This is surely just a continuation of an outdated arrangement leading to more decline and eventual failure? I would see the election of Trump as an opportunity which is not necessarily a bad thing - it could lead to some kind of intermediate resolution of the existing conflict and Europe taking greater responsibility for dealing with Russia. It might alternatively go very badly, but so could prolonging the existing situation.

  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,031
    nico679 said:

    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    JFC, the ‘comic’ at Madison Square…
    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1850613109402013792

    No one who booked that guy should be running anything.

    Not an aberration.

    “There’s a lot going on. I don’t know if you know this but there’s literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now. I think it’s called Puerto Rico”
    https://x.com/Acyn/status/1850613597304455412
    Good grief . What an absolute hate fest .
    I have to admit to being slightly surprised how much they’re openly celebrating hate. As one of the campaign’s final pitches to the electorate.

    At some point even JD will have to give up pretending not to see it, which he’s made his specialty this election.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,546
    Nigelb said:

    Andy_JS said:

    TimS said:

    Nothing says Sunday evening as much as the Antiques roadshow theme, except perhaps Songs of Praise or Poirot, with the trains.

    Nothing tops this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwoeSQMz7VU
    I'd say this. Beautiful mix of jazz, art deco and trains:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmx6dQJf_rk&pp=ygUMcG9pcm90IHRoZW1l

    It just oozes the sophisticated 1930s. Apt.
    The only problem is I *despise* Poirot, both in TV and book form.

    But if you want art deco:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMkqA016VyQ
    How can you despise Poirot? He's fantastic. Nothing more relaxing that watching a Poirot.
    There's something about him in both written and TV form I just find... creepy. That's not quite the right word, but he just sets my nerves jangling.
    Suchet is a fanatastic actor (saw him many years ago as Bolingbroke in Richard II), but his performance isn’t for everyone.
    Apparently he perfected Poirot’s gait by holding a sixpence between his arse cheeks. Miss Marple would not have approved.
    I agree Suchet portrays him well. The fact I don't like Poirot in written form either indicates it is his character that annoys me, rather than the portrayal.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,414
    Pagan2 said:

    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Foxy said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Foxy said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Foxy said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Foxy said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Here is an example of nhs waste for you. Two days now since I lost my ventolin inhaler and cant get a prescription.....fighting with national health 111 all I am asking for is give me an emergency prescription in case I have an attack....they keep insisting despite having been prescribed it for 40 odd years I have to goto a walk in centre I can't actually get to rather than just issuing the prescription to get me through...if I have an asthma attack tonight the nhs will have to raise an ambulance.....get me in ed....give me oxygen etc...its not like its a dangerous or addictive drug

    So an asthma attack will cost the a couple of thousand rather than just issuing the fucking prescription

    Writing as an asthmatic of 80 years standing, and a pharmacist, albeit now retired, why not go to a pharmacy, explain the circumstances and buy one.
    Of course, you could do what I do and ALWAYS have a spare!
    I tried that they said they cant sell me one....told me to ring nhs 111 to send them an emergency prescription spent two days now going in circles where they tell me they can't do it unless I goto the walk in centre which I cant get to as I have no car
    You aren't registered with a GP, so where have your previous prescriptions come from?

    Pharmacists will dispense in anticipation of a repeat prescription if you regularly fill prescriptions with them. If not then they cannot provide Prescription Only Medicines.
    Err because I was registered with a gp before I moved to devon two years ago which last filled the prescription and yes the inhaler I lost was probably out of date
    In that case you should still be registered with your previous GP, who should be able to access their records and issue a repeat.
    I doubt that I a told them I wasn't on their books anymore as they were useless
    Should also add I don't want to register at my local gp's as they are even worse
    Well that ought to teach 'em.
    Why should they be paid for not giving any service? Please explain...if I am ill they won't see me till I am either better or dead....I have been asthmatic for a long time 30 odd years so the work diagnosing that is nil
    The service is repeat prescriptions, but for that there need to be records.

    The per-capita element of GP pay is a bit "win some, lose some" some registered patients never need an appointment, others are in every week.

    Why do I need a gp for that when I know what I need is an inhaler prescription. GP's are largely worthless for the majority of people
    well, it is a prescription only medicine, and GPs can write these. They may be a bit more useful than you think.
    So there use is they can write a prescription for something you have already been diagnosed with?

    They in my case get £137 pounds per year for writing me a repeat perscription once a year for an inhaler....then you wonder why we think the nhs is wasting money
    as I said "win some, lose some"

    For the average patient it is 5-6 consultations per year, so excellent value at £137.

    It would be nearly twice that for a single private consultation at Spire.
    The average patient on a gp list? Is that one of those twisted statistics in which 65% of people in the list don’t see their doctor from decade to the next, and 5% twice a week?
    I am not a GP, but apparently about 40% of appointments are taken up by heavy users who have 15-20 appointments per year, so it is heavily skewed.

    I havent seen my GP for over 5 years, but do have an annual BP review and bloods with the practice nurse. Its a requirement for getting repeat prescriptions, but seems very reasonable to me.
    I think my last gp I saw 3 times in 20 years. The number of times tried to see them was probably 4 to 5 times that but no point having the appointment after you are better
    With something like asthma a review of why the attack happened can be helpful.

    Just saying. As one long-term asthmatic to another.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 3,078
    ohnotnow said:

    Andy_JS said:

    TimS said:

    Nothing says Sunday evening as much as the Antiques roadshow theme, except perhaps Songs of Praise or Poirot, with the trains.

    Nothing tops this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwoeSQMz7VU
    I'd say this. Beautiful mix of jazz, art deco and trains:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmx6dQJf_rk&pp=ygUMcG9pcm90IHRoZW1l

    It just oozes the sophisticated 1930s. Apt.
    The only problem is I *despise* Poirot, both in TV and book form.

    But if you want art deco:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMkqA016VyQ
    How can you despise Poirot? He's fantastic. Nothing more relaxing that watching a Poirot.
    Despite recent attempts to re-imagine both Poirot and Miss Marple, both have, I think, such iconic portrayals that there is little that should be done with them beyond showing them again. As period set drama they don’t age that much either.

    Sadly I know the stories far too well, so have recently started reading the Lord Peter Wimsey series. Enjoying it so far.
    I have quite a lot of Poirot/Marple stories saved on my phone. Very good to dip into as 'bed-time stories' as they are so familiar to me. And I don't feel that guilty if I drift off and have to guesstimate where to start again the next night.
    Hugh Fraser (Captain Hastings) is a wonderful narrator of books.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,031

    Keir Starmer appoints former Blair and Brown aide as his political director
    ...
    [Claire] Reynolds, who is also the wife of the business secretary, Jonathan Reynolds, will have to handle the sensitive task of liaising with Labour’s 403 MPs

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/oct/27/keir-starmer-appoints-former-blair-and-brown-aide-as-his-political-director

    Lloyd George knew my father; Father knew Lloyd George.

    Politics. on both sides of the fence, tends to be an incestuos business.
    It’s usually a lot fewer than six degrees of separation.

    Random oddball election-related fact for the day:

    Jill Stein was a college classmate of Chuck Schumer.

    (And of Bonnie Raitt. And Frank Rich. And Katha Pollitt. And my wife.)

    Nearly all of them have turned out very well…

    https://x.com/JamesFallows/status/1850275876446883899
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,983
    I’m watching the Zelenskyy story on iplayer. Hadn’t got round to it until now. Excellent, especially episode 2.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,651

    Scott_xP said:

    @madrid_mike

    Trump knows he’s going to lose. He’s rallying his base for violence.

    Isn't it the opposite that we are supposed to fear? That he will rally his base for violence after he wins.
    How is 'rallying his base for violence' the opposite of 'rallying his base for violence'?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,960
    edited October 27
    Nigelb said:

    He seems nice, too.

    Grant Cardone calls Mark Cuban a "simp" and says Kamala Harris has "pimp handlers." He then says of Democrats "we need to slaughter these other people"
    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1850625175068332131

    I hope @GarethoftheVale2 is getting his dose of positive.

    I won't say what I think about Grant Cardone as he loves to sue people, but I personally wouldn't want him anywhere near my brand. You don't have to look very hard online to see that many people have highlighted issues with his business dealings.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,866
    darkage said:

    Regarding this election, whoever wins wins. I am not voting in it, so I cannot do anything about it. Both scenarios are bad; the risks with Trump being slightly greater and more existential in nature.

    The one thing I find quite unbelievable is the idea that Harris is going to sort out the war in Ukraine. I guess she would probably just continue the existing policy of drip feeding support to prolong an existing stalemate in the hope of a Russian collapse that seems unlikely to happen, whilst domestic opposition to the war in the US increases, other geopolitical challenges mount up, and Europe uses the US/NATO as protection so as to avoid spending on defence. This is surely just a continuation of an outdated arrangement leading to more decline and eventual failure? I would see the election of Trump as an opportunity which is not necessarily a bad thing - it could lead to some kind of intermediate resolution of the existing conflict and Europe taking greater responsibility for dealing with Russia. It might alternatively go very badly, but so could prolonging the existing situation.

    As I've said on here before, the current position in the Ukraine works well for almost everybody - obviously not those doing the fighting and dying and obviously not those civilians whose homes have been destroyed and lives shattered but for the rest of the world, it's not too bad.

    The military-industrial complex is more than happy - armaments are being manufactured, sold and used while any thought of cutting defence spending to help reduce national indebtedness is on the back burner. It also suits Putin and even Zelenskyy as it keeps both leaders pretty much entrenched in Government.

    The rest of us have got used to it - we've even got past the issues with the shortages of sunflower oil (?). Resolving the war one way or the other will cause change and have consequences and that's inherently more risky than the current status quo.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,350

    Andy_JS said:

    TimS said:

    Nothing says Sunday evening as much as the Antiques roadshow theme, except perhaps Songs of Praise or Poirot, with the trains.

    Nothing tops this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwoeSQMz7VU
    I'd say this. Beautiful mix of jazz, art deco and trains:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmx6dQJf_rk&pp=ygUMcG9pcm90IHRoZW1l

    It just oozes the sophisticated 1930s. Apt.
    The only problem is I *despise* Poirot, both in TV and book form.

    But if you want art deco:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMkqA016VyQ
    How can you despise Poirot? He's fantastic. Nothing more relaxing that watching a Poirot.
    Despite recent attempts to re-imagine both Poirot and Miss Marple, both have, I think, such iconic portrayals that there is little that should be done with them beyond showing them again. As period set drama they don’t age that much either.

    Sadly I know the stories far too well, so have recently started reading the Lord Peter Wimsey series. Enjoying it so far.
    Wimsey is a thousand times better than Poirot. In both written and TV form (as portrayed by Ian Carmichael). Though he only really takes off when Harriet Vane joins the stories. I love their interactions (and with Bunter as well). Perhaps it's the PTSD that features in many of the stories (shell shock from WW1) that grants the character a little humour and humility.

    This is a hill I will die on. ;)
    Sayers commented that when she wanted to marry Wimsey off and created Harriet Vane for him (a reaction to her own disastrous affairs with John Cournos and then Bill White) she realised she had to make him a much more serious and deeper character than he had been hitherto. Which is why he 'takes off' in later books in a way he doesn't in say, Whose Body? or Unnatural Death.

    It's actually easy to see in the TV series as well, with Carmichael playing the lighthearted, Whimsical Wimsey to perfection and Petherbridge portraying him with much more depth and feeling in the three adaptations with Harriet Walter.
  • tysontyson Posts: 6,117
    POTUS 2024 has all the characteristics of UK 2015 when all the polls herded to a dead heat...

    It's likely to be a decisive win for one or the other- my head says Trump, but in 2015 I never saw Cameron's big win coming...I spent most of that day with our very own Nick Palmer in Broxtowe....
  • Anyone watching F1? Last weekend's stewarding absurdity has prompted a festival of terrible driving and massive penalties.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 41,950
    geoffw said:

    nico679 said:

    When does the Nazi flag waving start at the Bund Rally ?

    Ferguson: "The fact that Harris has resorted to playing the Hitler card is a sign of desperation, so I'll go ahead and say it. She's losing this election. "
    You know who else has called Trump Hitler?




  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,960
    edited October 27

    Keir Starmer appoints former Blair and Brown aide as his political director
    ...
    [Claire] Reynolds, who is also the wife of the business secretary, Jonathan Reynolds, will have to handle the sensitive task of liaising with Labour’s 403 MPs

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/oct/27/keir-starmer-appoints-former-blair-and-brown-aide-as-his-political-director

    Lloyd George knew my father; Father knew Lloyd George.

    Labour's pretence about being very different to the other lot, the first 100 or so days, has shown business as usual, no matter how many times Rachael Reeves will bang on about being the first female chancellor on Wednesday breaking that glass ceiling, if you were a donor or a family member, interview not required for a prime job.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,344
    stodge said:

    darkage said:

    Regarding this election, whoever wins wins. I am not voting in it, so I cannot do anything about it. Both scenarios are bad; the risks with Trump being slightly greater and more existential in nature.

    The one thing I find quite unbelievable is the idea that Harris is going to sort out the war in Ukraine. I guess she would probably just continue the existing policy of drip feeding support to prolong an existing stalemate in the hope of a Russian collapse that seems unlikely to happen, whilst domestic opposition to the war in the US increases, other geopolitical challenges mount up, and Europe uses the US/NATO as protection so as to avoid spending on defence. This is surely just a continuation of an outdated arrangement leading to more decline and eventual failure? I would see the election of Trump as an opportunity which is not necessarily a bad thing - it could lead to some kind of intermediate resolution of the existing conflict and Europe taking greater responsibility for dealing with Russia. It might alternatively go very badly, but so could prolonging the existing situation.

    As I've said on here before, the current position in the Ukraine works well for almost everybody - obviously not those doing the fighting and dying and obviously not those civilians whose homes have been destroyed and lives shattered but for the rest of the world, it's not too bad.

    The military-industrial complex is more than happy - armaments are being manufactured, sold and used while any thought of cutting defence spending to help reduce national indebtedness is on the back burner. It also suits Putin and even Zelenskyy as it keeps both leaders pretty much entrenched in Government.

    The rest of us have got used to it - we've even got past the issues with the shortages of sunflower oil (?). Resolving the war one way or the other will cause change and have consequences and that's inherently more risky than the current status quo.
    Silly, flippant, comment.
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,274
    TimS said:

    I’m watching the Zelenskyy story on iplayer. Hadn’t got round to it until now. Excellent, especially episode 2.

    He’s a remarkable man . It was a great watch and makes me even more supportive of Ukraine . Trump and his bone spurs the supposed tough guy v Zelensky!
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,060
    geoffw said:

    nico679 said:

    When does the Nazi flag waving start at the Bund Rally ?

    Ferguson: "The fact that Harris has resorted to playing the Hitler card is a sign of desperation, so I'll go ahead and say it. She's losing this election. "
    He is probably right. Niall Ferguson is still a t**t though
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,615

    geoffw said:

    nico679 said:

    When does the Nazi flag waving start at the Bund Rally ?

    Ferguson: "The fact that Harris has resorted to playing the Hitler card is a sign of desperation, so I'll go ahead and say it. She's losing this election. "
    You know who else has called Trump Hitler?




    Yeah, but Vance means it as a compliment.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,031
    "Who do you trust more to look out for the middle class?"

    Harris: 45%
    Trump: 39%

    Ipsos / Oct 22, 2024 / n=2808

    https://x.com/USA_Polling/status/1850630243154792618
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,031

    Nigelb said:

    He seems nice, too.

    Grant Cardone calls Mark Cuban a "simp" and says Kamala Harris has "pimp handlers." He then says of Democrats "we need to slaughter these other people"
    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1850625175068332131

    I hope @GarethoftheVale2 is getting his dose of positive.

    I won't say what I think about Grant Cardone as he loves to sue people, but I personally wouldn't want him anywhere near my brand. You don't have to look very hard online to see that many people have highlighted issues with his business dealings.
    He’s an unpleasant piece of work, certainly.
  • Foxy said:

    geoffw said:

    nico679 said:

    When does the Nazi flag waving start at the Bund Rally ?

    Ferguson: "The fact that Harris has resorted to playing the Hitler card is a sign of desperation, so I'll go ahead and say it. She's losing this election. "
    You know who else has called Trump Hitler?




    Yeah, but Vance means it as a compliment.
    All of the Trumpites do. Its *good* that we're electing a fascist because Harris is a fascist.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,583

    Scott_xP said:

    @madrid_mike

    Trump knows he’s going to lose. He’s rallying his base for violence.

    Isn't it the opposite that we are supposed to fear? That he will rally his base for violence after he wins.
    How is 'rallying his base for violence' the opposite of 'rallying his base for violence'?
    The author of the tweet thinks that rallying them for violence implies losing the election, which suggests that he doesn't really believe that a victorious Trump would instigate a fascist state.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,810
    tyson said:

    POTUS 2024 has all the characteristics of UK 2015 when all the polls herded to a dead heat...

    It's likely to be a decisive win for one or the other- my head says Trump, but in 2015 I never saw Cameron's big win coming...I spent most of that day with our very own Nick Palmer in Broxtowe....

    EICIPM :lol:
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,960
    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    He seems nice, too.

    Grant Cardone calls Mark Cuban a "simp" and says Kamala Harris has "pimp handlers." He then says of Democrats "we need to slaughter these other people"
    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1850625175068332131

    I hope @GarethoftheVale2 is getting his dose of positive.

    I won't say what I think about Grant Cardone as he loves to sue people, but I personally wouldn't want him anywhere near my brand. You don't have to look very hard online to see that many people have highlighted issues with his business dealings.
    He’s an unpleasant piece of work, certainly.
    How nice a man he is or isn't, I don't think that is the overriding criticism.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,615
    stodge said:

    darkage said:

    Regarding this election, whoever wins wins. I am not voting in it, so I cannot do anything about it. Both scenarios are bad; the risks with Trump being slightly greater and more existential in nature.

    The one thing I find quite unbelievable is the idea that Harris is going to sort out the war in Ukraine. I guess she would probably just continue the existing policy of drip feeding support to prolong an existing stalemate in the hope of a Russian collapse that seems unlikely to happen, whilst domestic opposition to the war in the US increases, other geopolitical challenges mount up, and Europe uses the US/NATO as protection so as to avoid spending on defence. This is surely just a continuation of an outdated arrangement leading to more decline and eventual failure? I would see the election of Trump as an opportunity which is not necessarily a bad thing - it could lead to some kind of intermediate resolution of the existing conflict and Europe taking greater responsibility for dealing with Russia. It might alternatively go very badly, but so could prolonging the existing situation.

    As I've said on here before, the current position in the Ukraine works well for almost everybody - obviously not those doing the fighting and dying and obviously not those civilians whose homes have been destroyed and lives shattered but for the rest of the world, it's not too bad.

    The military-industrial complex is more than happy - armaments are being manufactured, sold and used while any thought of cutting defence spending to help reduce national indebtedness is on the back burner. It also suits Putin and even Zelenskyy as it keeps both leaders pretty much entrenched in Government.

    The rest of us have got used to it - we've even got past the issues with the shortages of sunflower oil (?). Resolving the war one way or the other will cause change and have consequences and that's inherently more risky than the current status quo.
    I don't think anyone is deliberately prolonging it, least of all Putin and Zelensky, and in 2023 the much vaunted Ukranian counter offensive was an attempt to break the deadlock. I think though that a stalemate does suit many, not least for NATO by preventing Russia from taking serious interest elsewhere though NATO hasn't used that interval very well to prepare for the aftermath, perhaps the Poles excepted.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,031
    tyson said:

    POTUS 2024 has all the characteristics of UK 2015 when all the polls herded to a dead heat...

    It's likely to be a decisive win for one or the other- my head says Trump, but in 2015 I never saw Cameron's big win coming...I spent most of that day with our very own Nick Palmer in Broxtowe....

    Yes, there was a Twitter poll about his.
    The vast majority voted for herding as the most likely explanation of current numbers.
  • tysontyson Posts: 6,117
    stodge said:

    darkage said:

    Regarding this election, whoever wins wins. I am not voting in it, so I cannot do anything about it. Both scenarios are bad; the risks with Trump being slightly greater and more existential in nature.

    The one thing I find quite unbelievable is the idea that Harris is going to sort out the war in Ukraine. I guess she would probably just continue the existing policy of drip feeding support to prolong an existing stalemate in the hope of a Russian collapse that seems unlikely to happen, whilst domestic opposition to the war in the US increases, other geopolitical challenges mount up, and Europe uses the US/NATO as protection so as to avoid spending on defence. This is surely just a continuation of an outdated arrangement leading to more decline and eventual failure? I would see the election of Trump as an opportunity which is not necessarily a bad thing - it could lead to some kind of intermediate resolution of the existing conflict and Europe taking greater responsibility for dealing with Russia. It might alternatively go very badly, but so could prolonging the existing situation.

    As I've said on here before, the current position in the Ukraine works well for almost everybody - obviously not those doing the fighting and dying and obviously not those civilians whose homes have been destroyed and lives shattered but for the rest of the world, it's not too bad.

    The military-industrial complex is more than happy - armaments are being manufactured, sold and used while any thought of cutting defence spending to help reduce national indebtedness is on the back burner. It also suits Putin and even Zelenskyy as it keeps both leaders pretty much entrenched in Government.

    The rest of us have got used to it - we've even got past the issues with the shortages of sunflower oil (?). Resolving the war one way or the other will cause change and have consequences and that's inherently more risky than the current status quo.
    I don't think I can ever get use to the senseless slaughter of hundreds of thousands of sentient human beings, and destruction of cities and natural ecosystems for Putin's vanity
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,401

    Ski Sunday, best Sunday TV intro ever:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hDDiKglUNw

    The thing about a good intro is its music: and the fact it takes you back. Ski Sunday does that.

    So does the clothes show:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAAelPf62Xs
    That's The Pet Shop Boys - In The Night
  • darkagedarkage Posts: 5,398
    edited October 27
    stodge said:

    darkage said:

    Regarding this election, whoever wins wins. I am not voting in it, so I cannot do anything about it. Both scenarios are bad; the risks with Trump being slightly greater and more existential in nature.

    The one thing I find quite unbelievable is the idea that Harris is going to sort out the war in Ukraine. I guess she would probably just continue the existing policy of drip feeding support to prolong an existing stalemate in the hope of a Russian collapse that seems unlikely to happen, whilst domestic opposition to the war in the US increases, other geopolitical challenges mount up, and Europe uses the US/NATO as protection so as to avoid spending on defence. This is surely just a continuation of an outdated arrangement leading to more decline and eventual failure? I would see the election of Trump as an opportunity which is not necessarily a bad thing - it could lead to some kind of intermediate resolution of the existing conflict and Europe taking greater responsibility for dealing with Russia. It might alternatively go very badly, but so could prolonging the existing situation.

    As I've said on here before, the current position in the Ukraine works well for almost everybody - obviously not those doing the fighting and dying and obviously not those civilians whose homes have been destroyed and lives shattered but for the rest of the world, it's not too bad.

    The military-industrial complex is more than happy - armaments are being manufactured, sold and used while any thought of cutting defence spending to help reduce national indebtedness is on the back burner. It also suits Putin and even Zelenskyy as it keeps both leaders pretty much entrenched in Government.

    The rest of us have got used to it - we've even got past the issues with the shortages of sunflower oil (?). Resolving the war one way or the other will cause change and have consequences and that's inherently more risky than the current status quo.
    Certainly it has reformed the Russian army, it was hopeless at the start, now it is has built up supply lines, international alliances, and other capabilities; so it is prepared for the next invasion after a bit of a break.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,546

    Foxy said:

    geoffw said:

    nico679 said:

    When does the Nazi flag waving start at the Bund Rally ?

    Ferguson: "The fact that Harris has resorted to playing the Hitler card is a sign of desperation, so I'll go ahead and say it. She's losing this election. "
    You know who else has called Trump Hitler?




    Yeah, but Vance means it as a compliment.
    All of the Trumpites do. Its *good* that we're electing a fascist because Harris is a fascist.
    The usual claim is that Harris is a 'communist'.

    I'd argue there are much stronger signals that Trump (and many of his supporters...) are fascists.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,775
    edited October 27
    ydoethur said:

    Andy_JS said:

    TimS said:

    Nothing says Sunday evening as much as the Antiques roadshow theme, except perhaps Songs of Praise or Poirot, with the trains.

    Nothing tops this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwoeSQMz7VU
    I'd say this. Beautiful mix of jazz, art deco and trains:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmx6dQJf_rk&pp=ygUMcG9pcm90IHRoZW1l

    It just oozes the sophisticated 1930s. Apt.
    The only problem is I *despise* Poirot, both in TV and book form.

    But if you want art deco:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMkqA016VyQ
    How can you despise Poirot? He's fantastic. Nothing more relaxing that watching a Poirot.
    Despite recent attempts to re-imagine both Poirot and Miss Marple, both have, I think, such iconic portrayals that there is little that should be done with them beyond showing them again. As period set drama they don’t age that much either.

    Sadly I know the stories far too well, so have recently started reading the Lord Peter Wimsey series. Enjoying it so far.
    Wimsey is a thousand times better than Poirot. In both written and TV form (as portrayed by Ian Carmichael). Though he only really takes off when Harriet Vane joins the stories. I love their interactions (and with Bunter as well). Perhaps it's the PTSD that features in many of the stories (shell shock from WW1) that grants the character a little humour and humility.

    This is a hill I will die on. ;)
    Sayers commented that when she wanted to marry Wimsey off and created Harriet Vane for him (a reaction to her own disastrous affairs with John Cournos and then Bill White) she realised she had to make him a much more serious and deeper character than he had been hitherto. Which is why he 'takes off' in later books in a way he doesn't in say, Whose Body? or Unnatural Death.

    It's actually easy to see in the TV series as well, with Carmichael playing the lighthearted, Whimsical Wimsey to perfection and Petherbridge portraying him with much more depth and feeling in the three adaptations with Harriet Walter.
    Somewhat related - I've been trying to track down an old thriller from that period (I think!). Certainly had a 1930s feel). I had a radio dramatisation of it. It was a couple - the husband was a gentleman/amateur detective of the 'serious sort'. There is some sort of threat to the nation - head of the secret service who is (as I remember) one of the couples uncle or somesuch.

    Wife has to go away, tours the country incognito, meets various people including being rescued by an Eurythmy school group. Eventually ending up at some sort of country house (natch) where some villainous rich industrial types were planning a fascist coup. I think the game was given away by a clock-face in the ornamental garden - but I might be hallucinating that part.

    If anyone has any idea - it would put me out of my misery!

    I listened to it while I was down with the flu one year - so I could be confusing a dozen other stories. But I've never been able to track it down and I'm convinced it was real.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,350

    Scott_xP said:

    @madrid_mike

    Trump knows he’s going to lose. He’s rallying his base for violence.

    Isn't it the opposite that we are supposed to fear? That he will rally his base for violence after he wins.
    How is 'rallying his base for violence' the opposite of 'rallying his base for violence'?
    The author of the tweet thinks that rallying them for violence implies losing the election, which suggests that he doesn't really believe that a victorious Trump would instigate a fascist state.
    Huh? So Hitler rallying the SA for violence during the March 1933 election didn't presage the establishment of a Fascist state? Or Mussolini's March on Rome? Or the White Terror presage the Horthy regime? Or the Red Terror the Communists?

    That's the most bizarre non-sequitur you've ever come up with.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,546

    Ski Sunday, best Sunday TV intro ever:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hDDiKglUNw

    The thing about a good intro is its music: and the fact it takes you back. Ski Sunday does that.

    So does the clothes show:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAAelPf62Xs
    That's The Pet Shop Boys - In The Night
    I am well aware. I happened to be listening to that as I ran today (after a Bangles song - I am a man of the eighties...)
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,208
    edited October 27
    Nigelb said:

    Nigelb said:

    JFC, the ‘comic’ at Madison Square…
    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1850613109402013792

    No one who booked that guy should be running anything.

    Not an aberration.

    “There’s a lot going on. I don’t know if you know this but there’s literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now. I think it’s called Puerto Rico”
    https://x.com/Acyn/status/1850613597304455412
    Puerto Ricans are a sizeable swing demographic in the swing state of Pennsylvania. Possibly also Florida if the vote is close.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,401
    Sean_F said:

    Foxy said:

    Omnium said:

    Nigelb said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Here is an example of nhs waste for you. Two days now since I lost my ventolin inhaler and cant get a prescription.....fighting with national health 111 all I am asking for is give me an emergency prescription in case I have an attack....they keep insisting despite having been prescribed it for 40 odd years I have to goto a walk in centre I can't actually get to rather than just issuing the prescription to get me through...if I have an asthma attack tonight the nhs will have to raise an ambulance.....get me in ed....give me oxygen etc...its not like its a dangerous or addictive drug

    So an asthma attack will cost the a couple of thousand rather than just issuing the fucking prescription

    There's an ongoing problem with inhaler prescriptions for some reason. My daughter us having serous problems getting a replacement in reasonable time, as one runs out.
    Starmer's Britain...
    Some surgeries processes are more efficient than others. When I was concerned with these things, some caused me to tear my hair out. I must say that the surgery where I am now registered is very efficient.
    Any interaction really with the NHS tells you that it is astonishingly inefficient. Many people must die each year for this simple reason. They're also terribly ineffective. The whole diagnosis and treatment plan is really quite poor. Again there are people dying because of this - that's their primary cause of death - the NHS.

    Vast numbers are served well by the NHS though. The whole clapping nonsense during covid highlighted that, and whilst a bit daft, was clearly not misplaced.
    There are lots of inefficiencies in the NHS and while productivity improvements via investment in tech, capital equipment and training are all needed there are some things that would improve it with little cost. Indeed I have been stewing some of these myself.
    I saw the good and bad at first hand, a fortnight ago.

    My wife had a bad fall in Italy, and had to go hospital. The ambulance was admirably swift, as was her admission to treatment.

    The Italian doctor was a complete pig, who wrote a pack of lies on her medical report, we realised, upon getting it translated.

    On returning home, she felt very ill, so we went to A & E. Lengthy waits, but the staff were (with one exception, who preferred to watch porn on his I phone), very kind and helpful.
    Hope she's better now, Sean.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,977

    I'm fucking terrified by our attitude to defence, and our refusal to fund it properly.

    Just 19 ships in the Royal Navy, most of which don't have the fuel or sailors to run.

    I mean, WTF?

    But we did Brexit tho...
  • Foxy said:

    geoffw said:

    nico679 said:

    When does the Nazi flag waving start at the Bund Rally ?

    Ferguson: "The fact that Harris has resorted to playing the Hitler card is a sign of desperation, so I'll go ahead and say it. She's losing this election. "
    You know who else has called Trump Hitler?




    Yeah, but Vance means it as a compliment.
    All of the Trumpites do. Its *good* that we're electing a fascist because Harris is a fascist.
    The usual claim is that Harris is a 'communist'.

    I'd argue there are much stronger signals that Trump (and many of his supporters...) are fascists.
    Of course. Harris / the Dems do not do most of the stuff they are accused of. Trump? Absolutely does the stuff that his former cabinet members / chiefs of staff accuse him of.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,615
    Nigelb said:

    He seems nice, too.

    Grant Cardone calls Mark Cuban a "simp" and says Kamala Harris has "pimp handlers." He then says of Democrats "we need to slaughter these other people"
    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1850625175068332131

    I hope @GarethoftheVale2 is getting his dose of positive.

    Lots of Puerto Ricans in Florida, Haitians too...
  • FishingFishing Posts: 5,032
    Scott_xP said:

    I'm fucking terrified by our attitude to defence, and our refusal to fund it properly.

    Just 19 ships in the Royal Navy, most of which don't have the fuel or sailors to run.

    I mean, WTF?

    But we did Brexit tho...
    And the award for non-sequitur of the year goes to ...
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,401
    AnneJGP said:

    Andy_JS said:

    TimS said:

    Nothing says Sunday evening as much as the Antiques roadshow theme, except perhaps Songs of Praise or Poirot, with the trains.

    Nothing tops this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwoeSQMz7VU
    I'd say this. Beautiful mix of jazz, art deco and trains:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmx6dQJf_rk&pp=ygUMcG9pcm90IHRoZW1l

    It just oozes the sophisticated 1930s. Apt.
    The only problem is I *despise* Poirot, both in TV and book form.

    But if you want art deco:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMkqA016VyQ
    How can you despise Poirot? He's fantastic. Nothing more relaxing that watching a Poirot.
    The Poirot series with David Suchet was hardly well-lit enough to see what was happening. At the time, I read somewhere that the producers wanted to be reasonably accurate about the lighting levels in those days. But it made watching very hard work.
    I never detected that at all.

    David Suchet was perfect as Poirot.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,615

    Sean_F said:

    Powerful stuff in the header. The deniers bemuse me - naaah, he won't do that, or even naah, he didn't say that. Despite the evil enemies of Murica like Jake Tapper having the evidence.

    The deniers keep saying "he is winning". Which is of course what the Twitter algorithm is rigged to suggest. Maybe he is. The question isn't "could he win" - its "should he be allowed to win"

    We’ve reached a geopolitical outlook as disturbing as the 1930’s.

    In two weeks’ time the USA might have ceased to be an ally to the UK and Europe. We’ve had ample warning that we have to step up, but we preferred to free ride.

    Poland and the Baltic States have ramped up military spending, but most European leaders (including UK Conservatives), think that “International Law” is enough of a defence.
    I'm fucking terrified by our attitude to defence, and our refusal to fund it properly.

    Just 19 ships in the Royal Navy, most of which don't have the fuel or sailors to run.

    I mean, WTF?
    Yes, what were the Tories playing at?
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,274
    Pennsylvania has a large population of Puerto Rican’s . It’s all over social media already . The tirade by that so called comedian looks a bit stupid now .
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,977
    Foxy said:

    Sean_F said:

    Powerful stuff in the header. The deniers bemuse me - naaah, he won't do that, or even naah, he didn't say that. Despite the evil enemies of Murica like Jake Tapper having the evidence.

    The deniers keep saying "he is winning". Which is of course what the Twitter algorithm is rigged to suggest. Maybe he is. The question isn't "could he win" - its "should he be allowed to win"

    We’ve reached a geopolitical outlook as disturbing as the 1930’s.

    In two weeks’ time the USA might have ceased to be an ally to the UK and Europe. We’ve had ample warning that we have to step up, but we preferred to free ride.

    Poland and the Baltic States have ramped up military spending, but most European leaders (including UK Conservatives), think that “International Law” is enough of a defence.
    I'm fucking terrified by our attitude to defence, and our refusal to fund it properly.

    Just 19 ships in the Royal Navy, most of which don't have the fuel or sailors to run.

    I mean, WTF?
    Yes, what were the Tories playing at?
    Brexit
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 17,207
    Foxy said:

    Sean_F said:

    Powerful stuff in the header. The deniers bemuse me - naaah, he won't do that, or even naah, he didn't say that. Despite the evil enemies of Murica like Jake Tapper having the evidence.

    The deniers keep saying "he is winning". Which is of course what the Twitter algorithm is rigged to suggest. Maybe he is. The question isn't "could he win" - its "should he be allowed to win"

    We’ve reached a geopolitical outlook as disturbing as the 1930’s.

    In two weeks’ time the USA might have ceased to be an ally to the UK and Europe. We’ve had ample warning that we have to step up, but we preferred to free ride.

    Poland and the Baltic States have ramped up military spending, but most European leaders (including UK Conservatives), think that “International Law” is enough of a defence.
    I'm fucking terrified by our attitude to defence, and our refusal to fund it properly.

    Just 19 ships in the Royal Navy, most of which don't have the fuel or sailors to run.

    I mean, WTF?
    Yes, what were the Tories playing at?
    Tax cutting.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,401

    tyson said:

    POTUS 2024 has all the characteristics of UK 2015 when all the polls herded to a dead heat...

    It's likely to be a decisive win for one or the other- my head says Trump, but in 2015 I never saw Cameron's big win coming...I spent most of that day with our very own Nick Palmer in Broxtowe....

    EICIPM :lol:
    SKSICIPM
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,401
    Scott_xP said:

    I'm fucking terrified by our attitude to defence, and our refusal to fund it properly.

    Just 19 ships in the Royal Navy, most of which don't have the fuel or sailors to run.

    I mean, WTF?

    But we did Brexit tho...
    What the fuck is wrong with you?
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 81,960

    Foxy said:

    Sean_F said:

    Powerful stuff in the header. The deniers bemuse me - naaah, he won't do that, or even naah, he didn't say that. Despite the evil enemies of Murica like Jake Tapper having the evidence.

    The deniers keep saying "he is winning". Which is of course what the Twitter algorithm is rigged to suggest. Maybe he is. The question isn't "could he win" - its "should he be allowed to win"

    We’ve reached a geopolitical outlook as disturbing as the 1930’s.

    In two weeks’ time the USA might have ceased to be an ally to the UK and Europe. We’ve had ample warning that we have to step up, but we preferred to free ride.

    Poland and the Baltic States have ramped up military spending, but most European leaders (including UK Conservatives), think that “International Law” is enough of a defence.
    I'm fucking terrified by our attitude to defence, and our refusal to fund it properly.

    Just 19 ships in the Royal Navy, most of which don't have the fuel or sailors to run.

    I mean, WTF?
    Yes, what were the Tories playing at?
    Tax cutting.
    Were they? My taxes certainly didn't go down.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,583
    edited October 27
    ydoethur said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @madrid_mike

    Trump knows he’s going to lose. He’s rallying his base for violence.

    Isn't it the opposite that we are supposed to fear? That he will rally his base for violence after he wins.
    How is 'rallying his base for violence' the opposite of 'rallying his base for violence'?
    The author of the tweet thinks that rallying them for violence implies losing the election, which suggests that he doesn't really believe that a victorious Trump would instigate a fascist state.
    Huh? So Hitler rallying the SA for violence during the March 1933 election didn't presage the establishment of a Fascist state? Or Mussolini's March on Rome? Or the White Terror presage the Horthy regime? Or the Red Terror the Communists?

    That's the most bizarre non-sequitur you've ever come up with.
    If you witnessed Hitler in March 1933, would you think, "These guys think they're going to lose!"?
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,775
    nico679 said:

    Pennsylvania has a large population of Puerto Rican’s . It’s all over social media already . The tirade by that so called comedian looks a bit stupid now .

    Maybe he's a plant. Undermining the Great MAGA Project? Maybe?
  • Foxy said:

    Sean_F said:

    Powerful stuff in the header. The deniers bemuse me - naaah, he won't do that, or even naah, he didn't say that. Despite the evil enemies of Murica like Jake Tapper having the evidence.

    The deniers keep saying "he is winning". Which is of course what the Twitter algorithm is rigged to suggest. Maybe he is. The question isn't "could he win" - its "should he be allowed to win"

    We’ve reached a geopolitical outlook as disturbing as the 1930’s.

    In two weeks’ time the USA might have ceased to be an ally to the UK and Europe. We’ve had ample warning that we have to step up, but we preferred to free ride.

    Poland and the Baltic States have ramped up military spending, but most European leaders (including UK Conservatives), think that “International Law” is enough of a defence.
    I'm fucking terrified by our attitude to defence, and our refusal to fund it properly.

    Just 19 ships in the Royal Navy, most of which don't have the fuel or sailors to run.

    I mean, WTF?
    Yes, what were the Tories playing at?
    Don't PB Tories get it? "19 ships in the Royal Navy". You not only voted for it, you posted increasingly angst-ridden guff on here demanding that people VOTE for the people who destroyed our Navy.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,208
    Foxy said:

    stodge said:

    darkage said:

    Regarding this election, whoever wins wins. I am not voting in it, so I cannot do anything about it. Both scenarios are bad; the risks with Trump being slightly greater and more existential in nature.

    The one thing I find quite unbelievable is the idea that Harris is going to sort out the war in Ukraine. I guess she would probably just continue the existing policy of drip feeding support to prolong an existing stalemate in the hope of a Russian collapse that seems unlikely to happen, whilst domestic opposition to the war in the US increases, other geopolitical challenges mount up, and Europe uses the US/NATO as protection so as to avoid spending on defence. This is surely just a continuation of an outdated arrangement leading to more decline and eventual failure? I would see the election of Trump as an opportunity which is not necessarily a bad thing - it could lead to some kind of intermediate resolution of the existing conflict and Europe taking greater responsibility for dealing with Russia. It might alternatively go very badly, but so could prolonging the existing situation.

    As I've said on here before, the current position in the Ukraine works well for almost everybody - obviously not those doing the fighting and dying and obviously not those civilians whose homes have been destroyed and lives shattered but for the rest of the world, it's not too bad.

    The military-industrial complex is more than happy - armaments are being manufactured, sold and used while any thought of cutting defence spending to help reduce national indebtedness is on the back burner. It also suits Putin and even Zelenskyy as it keeps both leaders pretty much entrenched in Government.

    The rest of us have got used to it - we've even got past the issues with the shortages of sunflower oil (?). Resolving the war one way or the other will cause change and have consequences and that's inherently more risky than the current status quo.
    I don't think anyone is deliberately prolonging it, least of all Putin and Zelensky, and in 2023 the much vaunted Ukranian counter offensive was an attempt to break the deadlock. I think though that a stalemate does suit many, not least for NATO by preventing Russia from taking serious interest elsewhere though NATO hasn't used that interval very well to prepare for the aftermath, perhaps the Poles excepted.
    I don't think it's a deliberate policy of stalemate on the part of the liberal part of the West. I think it's more that Ukraine gets a budget, financial and diplomatic, and has to shift as best it can within that budget. When it might have been better to throw everything at getting Russia out of Ukraine.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,583
    Scott_xP said:

    I'm fucking terrified by our attitude to defence, and our refusal to fund it properly.

    Just 19 ships in the Royal Navy, most of which don't have the fuel or sailors to run.

    I mean, WTF?

    But we did Brexit tho...
    A photograph of Biden meeting with the leaders of Europe to discuss the security situation. What do you notice?

    image
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,411

    AnneJGP said:

    Andy_JS said:

    TimS said:

    Nothing says Sunday evening as much as the Antiques roadshow theme, except perhaps Songs of Praise or Poirot, with the trains.

    Nothing tops this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwoeSQMz7VU
    I'd say this. Beautiful mix of jazz, art deco and trains:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmx6dQJf_rk&pp=ygUMcG9pcm90IHRoZW1l

    It just oozes the sophisticated 1930s. Apt.
    The only problem is I *despise* Poirot, both in TV and book form.

    But if you want art deco:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMkqA016VyQ
    How can you despise Poirot? He's fantastic. Nothing more relaxing that watching a Poirot.
    The Poirot series with David Suchet was hardly well-lit enough to see what was happening. At the time, I read somewhere that the producers wanted to be reasonably accurate about the lighting levels in those days. But it made watching very hard work.
    I never detected that at all.

    David Suchet was perfect as Poirot.
    Me neither - it seemed very well lit. The later mess with John Malkovich was afaicr quite poorly lit.
  • Nigelb said:

    He seems nice, too.

    Grant Cardone calls Mark Cuban a "simp" and says Kamala Harris has "pimp handlers." He then says of Democrats "we need to slaughter these other people"
    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1850625175068332131

    I hope @GarethoftheVale2 is getting his dose of positive.

    My point wasn't that the Republican message was all positive. I'm sure the Republican closing messaging will be a mix of positive and negative. My point was that the Democrat messaging seems to be entirely negative. They also need a positive message to finish as well.

    I find it interesting that someone posted an Economist article below with the candidates economic policies. They state that Kamala's policies have polled quite well but until now I haven't heard anything about any of them.

    If we sum up the parties elevator pitches then the Republican pitch seems to be "We'll fix the border. We'll fix the cost of living. We'll cut crime. Make America great again", while the Democrat pitch seems to be "Trump is a fascist. Trump is unstable. It's the end of democracy."
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,350

    ydoethur said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @madrid_mike

    Trump knows he’s going to lose. He’s rallying his base for violence.

    Isn't it the opposite that we are supposed to fear? That he will rally his base for violence after he wins.
    How is 'rallying his base for violence' the opposite of 'rallying his base for violence'?
    The author of the tweet thinks that rallying them for violence implies losing the election, which suggests that he doesn't really believe that a victorious Trump would instigate a fascist state.
    Huh? So Hitler rallying the SA for violence during the March 1933 election didn't presage the establishment of a Fascist state? Or Mussolini's March on Rome? Or the White Terror presage the Horthy regime? Or the Red Terror the Communists?

    That's the most bizarre non-sequitur you've ever come up with.
    If you witnessed Hitler in March 1933, would you think, "These guys think they're going to lose!"?
    Yes, because he did.
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,707
    Foxy said:

    Sean_F said:

    Powerful stuff in the header. The deniers bemuse me - naaah, he won't do that, or even naah, he didn't say that. Despite the evil enemies of Murica like Jake Tapper having the evidence.

    The deniers keep saying "he is winning". Which is of course what the Twitter algorithm is rigged to suggest. Maybe he is. The question isn't "could he win" - its "should he be allowed to win"

    We’ve reached a geopolitical outlook as disturbing as the 1930’s.

    In two weeks’ time the USA might have ceased to be an ally to the UK and Europe. We’ve had ample warning that we have to step up, but we preferred to free ride.

    Poland and the Baltic States have ramped up military spending, but most European leaders (including UK Conservatives), think that “International Law” is enough of a defence.
    I'm fucking terrified by our attitude to defence, and our refusal to fund it properly.

    Just 19 ships in the Royal Navy, most of which don't have the fuel or sailors to run.

    I mean, WTF?
    Yes, what were the Tories playing at?
    This perhaps:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kfao1s3Tiek
    (HMS Pinafore)

  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 11,043
    So, how about that Japanese general election? The Liberal Democrats fail to win an overall majority, a rare event.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,651

    Foxy said:

    Sean_F said:

    Powerful stuff in the header. The deniers bemuse me - naaah, he won't do that, or even naah, he didn't say that. Despite the evil enemies of Murica like Jake Tapper having the evidence.

    The deniers keep saying "he is winning". Which is of course what the Twitter algorithm is rigged to suggest. Maybe he is. The question isn't "could he win" - its "should he be allowed to win"

    We’ve reached a geopolitical outlook as disturbing as the 1930’s.

    In two weeks’ time the USA might have ceased to be an ally to the UK and Europe. We’ve had ample warning that we have to step up, but we preferred to free ride.

    Poland and the Baltic States have ramped up military spending, but most European leaders (including UK Conservatives), think that “International Law” is enough of a defence.
    I'm fucking terrified by our attitude to defence, and our refusal to fund it properly.

    Just 19 ships in the Royal Navy, most of which don't have the fuel or sailors to run.

    I mean, WTF?
    Yes, what were the Tories playing at?
    Tax cutting.
    Yes, they managed to cut taxes up to record levels.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 17,207
    nico679 said:

    Pennsylvania has a large population of Puerto Rican’s . It’s all over social media already . The tirade by that so called comedian looks a bit stupid now .

    Within the bubble, it won't have mattered. And neither US party is good at thinking outside their bubble. (Dems are poor, Reps are worse... See all those abortion votes that have been as popular as a turd on a pancake.)

    However. If the whole Republican campaign were a Bialystock & Bloom scam, and was now in real danger of working, so had to be killed at the last minute, how would it be distinguishable from this?

    (See also Musk's recent remarks.)
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,344
    Foxy said:

    Sean_F said:

    Powerful stuff in the header. The deniers bemuse me - naaah, he won't do that, or even naah, he didn't say that. Despite the evil enemies of Murica like Jake Tapper having the evidence.

    The deniers keep saying "he is winning". Which is of course what the Twitter algorithm is rigged to suggest. Maybe he is. The question isn't "could he win" - its "should he be allowed to win"

    We’ve reached a geopolitical outlook as disturbing as the 1930’s.

    In two weeks’ time the USA might have ceased to be an ally to the UK and Europe. We’ve had ample warning that we have to step up, but we preferred to free ride.

    Poland and the Baltic States have ramped up military spending, but most European leaders (including UK Conservatives), think that “International Law” is enough of a defence.
    I'm fucking terrified by our attitude to defence, and our refusal to fund it properly.

    Just 19 ships in the Royal Navy, most of which don't have the fuel or sailors to run.

    I mean, WTF?
    Yes, what were the Tories playing at?
    I think the view, back in 2010, was that we’d avoid conflict by becoming an “Aid Superpower.”

    If you think this was idiotic … well, I don’t disagree.
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