"Artisan Polish canned food containing the iconic pea soup with homemade sausage and bacon. Ed Red's canned foods contain restaurant meals prepared by chefs using only natural ingredients of the highest quality. They are perfect as a source of sustenance during longer mountain expeditions or camping trips"
Should I buy a can?
Mm, I see they also do tripe in tomato, lovage and marjoram.
That sounds revolting.
If you're out somewhere in the middle of Salisbury Plain and the next pub, which may or may not have more food than some salt and vinegars crisps, is 5 miles away in one direction, and it's 8pm and pissing down ...
"Artisan Polish canned food containing the iconic pea soup with homemade sausage and bacon. Ed Red's canned foods contain restaurant meals prepared by chefs using only natural ingredients of the highest quality. They are perfect as a source of sustenance during longer mountain expeditions or camping trips"
Should I buy a can?
Mm, I see they also do tripe in tomato, lovage and marjoram.
That sounds revolting.
Portuguese tripe and beans is a classic. Lovage is gross, though. I would avoid.
"Artisan Polish canned food containing the iconic pea soup with homemade sausage and bacon. Ed Red's canned foods contain restaurant meals prepared by chefs using only natural ingredients of the highest quality. They are perfect as a source of sustenance during longer mountain expeditions or camping trips"
Should I buy a can?
Mm, I see they also do tripe in tomato, lovage and marjoram.
That sounds revolting.
Portuguese tripe and beans is a classic. Lovage is gross, though. I would avoid.
The pea soup with sausage also sounds like a relative of the classic German military food cooked up in a mobile cooker - with carrots, potatoes, bacon and veg.
"Artisan Polish canned food containing the iconic pea soup with homemade sausage and bacon. Ed Red's canned foods contain restaurant meals prepared by chefs using only natural ingredients of the highest quality. They are perfect as a source of sustenance during longer mountain expeditions or camping trips"
Should I buy a can?
Mm, I see they also do tripe in tomato, lovage and marjoram.
That sounds revolting.
If you're out somewhere in the middle of Salisbury Plain and the next pub, which may or may not have more food than some salt and vinegars crisps, is 5 miles away in one direction, and it's 8pm and pissing down ...
Capping all salaries at the PM's level is one of the biggest problems we have in attracting and retaining major leadership talent in the public sector.
Firstly, the PM salary is paid *on top* of that of being an MP, so he's actually on 240k+, secondly there are perks and privileges to being PM, and third you can cream in a lot more with memoirs and speeches after leaving office. But in any event the 160k headline level is far too low for a PM/CEO/major leadership job and well below the market rate, which would be more like 400-600k, so you get real doughnuts in the public sector instead whilst the rest go into consultancy, private businesses or set up for themselves.
To be fair, there are plenty of doughnuts in the private sector as well.
I have to confess that there are quite a lot of doughnuts in me too.
Starmer urged to appoint ‘mould-breaking’ outsider as civil service head
The outgoing chair of the John Lewis Partnership, Sharon White, who is also a former chief executive of Ofcom, is thought to be among the favourites to head the civil service, along with Minouche Shafik, a former president of Columbia University in New York....Oliver Robbins, the former Brexit negotiator who had been close to Starmer’s chief of staff, Sue Gray, had long been tipped for the job but is now in the frame for national security adviser.
One of the interesting bits of Big Dom's outing on Chris Williamsons podcast he laid out some examples from COVID where those who succeeded got the boot / weren't retained and the f##k ups got moved from groups that failed to the new groups formed to try and avoid repeated fuck ups.
The team who did the digital dashboard should have been paid whatever they wanted to continue their data revolution. Apparently at the start of COVID Simon Stevens had to personally ring around every NHS Trust every day and ask for the daily numbers, which he wrote on a whiteboard, that he then wheeled into to cabinet office...they didn't even have the ability to share docs to work on securely, they used a personal gmail account and google docs / sheets.
"Artisan Polish canned food containing the iconic pea soup with homemade sausage and bacon. Ed Red's canned foods contain restaurant meals prepared by chefs using only natural ingredients of the highest quality. They are perfect as a source of sustenance during longer mountain expeditions or camping trips"
Should I buy a can?
Mm, I see they also do tripe in tomato, lovage and marjoram.
That sounds revolting.
Portuguese tripe and beans is a classic. Lovage is gross, though. I would avoid.
It's only the Portuguese who can be trusted with tripe. Similarly, salt cod.
Married Police Chief Superintendent, 41, resigns ahead of misconduct hearing, that he was involved in a relationship with a 24-year-old trainee. They first met five years ago, so aged 36 and 19.
Government needs to better regulate this, so that criminal charges of misconduct in public office can more easily be brought in such cases, and senior officers not allowed to resign when under investigation.
its probably a bit low bar for misconduct in a public office criminal case if everybody willing . Just a sacking I would think is just.Misconduct in a public office for police is usually reserved for corruption or gross negligence on duty.Now if he had taken 30K worth of football tickets and some posh togs
Any sexual relationship between a senior officer and a very young new recruit should automatically meet the threshold for misconduct in public office. Even if he wasn’t married and it was all totally consentual, it’s still a totally unprofessional relationship because of the power imbalance. In a corporate environment, CEOs get fired for this.
Yes but that is a civil/corporate punishment. Not a criminal one. The idea of criminalising such behaviour is ludicrous.
Declaration of interest: I met my wife 34 years ago today, as previously mentioned in this thread, when she arrived as my trainee on a rig. Perhaps we were lucky we were working for a French company who took a rather progressive view of such matters.
Men and women meet each other and find each other attractive, sometimes they have sex.
Sometimes it's simple and sometimes it's complicated.
Is ‘Renegade Pollster’ a renegade in the Muscovite sense per chance?
But just to get you spouting off a few more conspiracy theories, here is how Quinnipac did in 2020 in swing states namely significantly overstating the Democrat lead
But did they learn from that and change their weightings? It is dangerous to assume that pollsters, at least the ones even trying to be accurate, will make the same mistakes again. They are more likely to make different ones.
Comparing current polling with 2020 is not necessarily comparing like with like.
Capping all salaries at the PM's level is one of the biggest problems we have in attracting and retaining major leadership talent in the public sector.
Firstly, the PM salary is paid *on top* of that of being an MP, so he's actually on 240k+, secondly there are perks and privileges to being PM, and third you can cream in a lot more with memoirs and speeches after leaving office. But in any event the 160k headline level is far too low for a PM/CEO/major leadership job and well below the market rate, which would be more like 400-600k, so you get real doughnuts in the public sector instead whilst the rest go into consultancy, private businesses or set up for themselves.
Sometimes people choose to earn less in the civil service because they find the work interesting/meaningful or they want to serve the public.
When I worked in the civil service I knew many such people, some of whom had previously been earning big money in the private sector. There's more to talent recruitment than just wages.
Hassan Nasrallah, Hezbollah’s leader grand wizard, is expected to deliver a televised address in response to the attacks on Thursday.
That might not be the smartest move fellas - what if Mossad got to the TVs too?
I was just having a think about this. The pagers they clearly got to the supply chain (I presume some front company). But the secondary stuff of what appears to be random electronic devices....I wonder if those were done on a small scale as physiological warfare...any device with a battery, we might have got to.
*he’s still attending No10 meetings despite having pass removed *close relationship with Sue Gray makes him ever-present figure *he’s donated more than £575,000 to Labour politicians in 4 years *intimate donor dinners at his Mayfair home *lavish late night pool parties with Cabinet ministers at his Kent mansion *he’s the donor to go to when Labour politicians need a suit, loan or birthday party paid for *£14,000 for ‘events’ for Bridget Phillipson shortly before her 40th bday
How can Labour be THIS venal, greedy and stupid? It beggars belief. And then Labour would steal belief from the beggar anyway
Corbyn wouldn't do it!
Unless it was from Hezbollah, in which case he'd make an exception.
Corbyn accepted only one bit of hospitality during his tenure as leader: tickets for Glastonbury. Miliband accepted some tickets for the Olympics, and Brown accepted nothing. Blair accepted quite a bit, but, incredibly, Starmer has accepted more hospitality than his four predecessors combined. And his tenure includes a period when no-one was allowed to do anything.
I suspect Starmer is going to end up hated more bitterly than any PM in modern history. He is already dislikeable - now it turns out he’s greedy and corrupt. And he’s clueless and disapproving and tin-eared. And he has an annoying voice. And little squinty eyes as he frowns at you through his free £20k designer specs, for eating a pie without his permission as he steals your granny’s last lump of coal
What on earth are you going to say about him in 4 years time?
I’m just getting started. It’s quite fun to hate a government and the hatred will only build
You will hate this government, I'm sure, and you'll look back on these days as a relaxing passing of the time. Clueless is perhaps the jibe that counts.
I entirely agree. All the dislikeable stuff about Starmer - even the greed and grift - would be forgivable if he looked like he has a single good idea for really improving the UK. But so far: nada
Makes me wonder why you voted for him.
The bitterness at the Labour victory has been quite something. All these Tories who went into hiding going into the election are now screaming at the moon. Hopefully they'll settle down and stop the dull repetitive posts but it might take a while. The nice thing is you can skip 4 out of 6 posts which makes the thread easier to flick through
It the likes of the Guardian that seem to be most exercised about things like Clobber-gate at the moment.
The Guardian is an alt-right hate rag, didn’t you get the memo?
The Times Educational Supplement is actually edited by Gabriele D'Annunzio, reincarnated.
Capping all salaries at the PM's level is one of the biggest problems we have in attracting and retaining major leadership talent in the public sector.
Firstly, the PM salary is paid *on top* of that of being an MP, so he's actually on 240k+, secondly there are perks and privileges to being PM, and third you can cream in a lot more with memoirs and speeches after leaving office. But in any event the 160k headline level is far too low for a PM/CEO/major leadership job and well below the market rate, which would be more like 400-600k, so you get real doughnuts in the public sector instead whilst the rest go into consultancy, private businesses or set up for themselves.
Sometimes people choose to earn less in the civil service because they find the work interesting/meaningful or they want to serve the public.
When I worked in the civil service I knew many such people, some of whom had previously been earning big money in the private sector. There's more to talent recruitment than just wages.
"Artisan Polish canned food containing the iconic pea soup with homemade sausage and bacon. Ed Red's canned foods contain restaurant meals prepared by chefs using only natural ingredients of the highest quality. They are perfect as a source of sustenance during longer mountain expeditions or camping trips"
Should I buy a can?
Mm, I see they also do tripe in tomato, lovage and marjoram.
That sounds revolting.
If you're out somewhere in the middle of Salisbury Plain and the next pub, which may or may not have more food than some salt and vinegars crisps, is 5 miles away in one direction, and it's 8pm and pissing down ...
Yes marriage works, is the best method for raising children and the Tory leadership contenders should be pushing big tax allowances for married couples
Another "widow" tax, then?
We would restore their winter fuel allowance too and keep their single person’s council tax discount
But only for official widows? Very keen on ensuring further income for the C of E and the weddings industry, you are.
Let me argue for the C of E for a minute there. It's taken *very* seriously and everyone works really hard at it because it is so important.
A church service in the Church of England will cost about £520-660 without optional extras. The lower end is for your home parish, with about £100 extra for not your home parish.
For that you get your own occasion in the church (ie the venue including things like heating and the staff to run it ie churchwarden), the minister (typically the vicar, who is a professional with a lot of pastoral experience and at least 2 degrees), the calling of the Banns (announcement at the Sunday Service on iirc 3 occasions), the admin and certificates. I think you get advice, helping you to think about what getting married means, meetings for discussion to make sure you really want to get married, and a rehearsal as well.
I think that is bloody good value and a strong support for couples getting married, if you consider that a car will be £250 to £350 or a dress will be £1000+ for a single occasion.
For a typical wedding the Church of England church fees will only be about 10% of the overall cost.
If you want things like a paid musician (organist - regulated fees), singing group (choir) and so on, it is extra.
"Artisan Polish canned food containing the iconic pea soup with homemade sausage and bacon. Ed Red's canned foods contain restaurant meals prepared by chefs using only natural ingredients of the highest quality. They are perfect as a source of sustenance during longer mountain expeditions or camping trips"
Should I buy a can?
Mm, I see they also do tripe in tomato, lovage and marjoram.
That sounds revolting.
Portuguese tripe and beans is a classic. Lovage is gross, though. I would avoid.
The pea soup with sausage also sounds like a relative of the classic German military food cooked up in a mobile cooker - with carrots, potatoes, bacon and veg.
Edit: like Cullen skink parallels clam chowders.
Cullen skink is simply the Queen of soups. Even the tinned version by Baxter’s is excellent.
"Artisan Polish canned food containing the iconic pea soup with homemade sausage and bacon. Ed Red's canned foods contain restaurant meals prepared by chefs using only natural ingredients of the highest quality. They are perfect as a source of sustenance during longer mountain expeditions or camping trips"
Should I buy a can?
Mm, I see they also do tripe in tomato, lovage and marjoram.
That sounds revolting.
Portuguese tripe and beans is a classic. Lovage is gross, though. I would avoid.
The pea soup with sausage also sounds like a relative of the classic German military food cooked up in a mobile cooker - with carrots, potatoes, bacon and veg.
Edit: like Cullen skink parallels clam chowders.
Cullen skink is simply the Queen of soups. Even the tinned version by Baxter’s is excellent.
Married Police Chief Superintendent, 41, resigns ahead of misconduct hearing, that he was involved in a relationship with a 24-year-old trainee. They first met five years ago, so aged 36 and 19.
Government needs to better regulate this, so that criminal charges of misconduct in public office can more easily be brought in such cases, and senior officers not allowed to resign when under investigation.
its probably a bit low bar for misconduct in a public office criminal case if everybody willing . Just a sacking I would think is just.Misconduct in a public office for police is usually reserved for corruption or gross negligence on duty.Now if he had taken 30K worth of football tickets and some posh togs
Any sexual relationship between a senior officer and a very young new recruit should automatically meet the threshold for misconduct in public office. Even if he wasn’t married and it was all totally consentual, it’s still a totally unprofessional relationship because of the power imbalance. In a corporate environment, CEOs get fired for this.
Yes but that is a civil/corporate punishment. Not a criminal one. The idea of criminalising such behaviour is ludicrous.
Declaration of interest: I met my wife 34 years ago today, as previously mentioned in this thread, when she arrived as my trainee on a rig. Perhaps we were lucky we were working for a French company who took a rather progressive view of such matters.
Men and women meet each other and find each other attractive, sometimes they have sex.
Sometimes it's simple and sometimes it's complicated.
That's humans, that is.
Let’s not overstate this. In my case this meeting thing last happened 40 years ago. Can’t get much simpler than that
*he’s still attending No10 meetings despite having pass removed *close relationship with Sue Gray makes him ever-present figure *he’s donated more than £575,000 to Labour politicians in 4 years *intimate donor dinners at his Mayfair home *lavish late night pool parties with Cabinet ministers at his Kent mansion *he’s the donor to go to when Labour politicians need a suit, loan or birthday party paid for *£14,000 for ‘events’ for Bridget Phillipson shortly before her 40th bday
How can Labour be THIS venal, greedy and stupid? It beggars belief. And then Labour would steal belief from the beggar anyway
Corbyn wouldn't do it!
Unless it was from Hezbollah, in which case he'd make an exception.
Corbyn accepted only one bit of hospitality during his tenure as leader: tickets for Glastonbury. Miliband accepted some tickets for the Olympics, and Brown accepted nothing. Blair accepted quite a bit, but, incredibly, Starmer has accepted more hospitality than his four predecessors combined. And his tenure includes a period when no-one was allowed to do anything.
I suspect Starmer is going to end up hated more bitterly than any PM in modern history. He is already dislikeable - now it turns out he’s greedy and corrupt. And he’s clueless and disapproving and tin-eared. And he has an annoying voice. And little squinty eyes as he frowns at you through his free £20k designer specs, for eating a pie without his permission as he steals your granny’s last lump of coal
What on earth are you going to say about him in 4 years time?
I’m just getting started. It’s quite fun to hate a government and the hatred will only build
You will hate this government, I'm sure, and you'll look back on these days as a relaxing passing of the time. Clueless is perhaps the jibe that counts.
I entirely agree. All the dislikeable stuff about Starmer - even the greed and grift - would be forgivable if he looked like he has a single good idea for really improving the UK. But so far: nada
Makes me wonder why you voted for him.
The bitterness at the Labour victory has been quite something. All these Tories who went into hiding going into the election are now screaming at the moon. Hopefully they'll settle down and stop the dull repetitive posts but it might take a while. The nice thing is you can skip 4 out of 6 posts which makes the thread easier to flick through
Roger - how would you rate the performance of the Labour government so far? I myself would rate them 5/10 so far
Capping all salaries at the PM's level is one of the biggest problems we have in attracting and retaining major leadership talent in the public sector.
Firstly, the PM salary is paid *on top* of that of being an MP, so he's actually on 240k+, secondly there are perks and privileges to being PM, and third you can cream in a lot more with memoirs and speeches after leaving office. But in any event the 160k headline level is far too low for a PM/CEO/major leadership job and well below the market rate, which would be more like 400-600k, so you get real doughnuts in the public sector instead whilst the rest go into consultancy, private businesses or set up for themselves.
The £160k includes the MP salary, so he’s not on a quarter of a million a year.
Yes marriage works, is the best method for raising children and the Tory leadership contenders should be pushing big tax allowances for married couples
Another "widow" tax, then?
We would restore their winter fuel allowance too and keep their single person’s council tax discount
But only for official widows? Very keen on ensuring further income for the C of E and the weddings industry, you are.
Let me argue for the C of E for a minute there. It's taken *very* seriously and everyone works really hard at it because it is so important.
A church service in the Church of England will cost about £520-660 without optional extras. The lower end is for your home parish, with about £100 extra for not your home parish.
For that you get your own occasion in the church (ie the venue including things like heating and the staff to run it ie churchwarden), the minister (typically the vicar, who is a professional with a lot of pastoral experience and at least 2 degrees), the calling of the Banns (announcement at the Sunday Service on iirc 3 occasions), the admin and certificates. I think you get advice, helping you to think about what getting married means, meetings for discussion to make sure you really want to get married, and a rehearsal as well.
I think that is bloody good value and a strong support for couples getting married, if you consider that a car will be £250 to £350 or a dress will be £1000+ for a single occasion.
For a typical wedding the Church of England church fees will only be about 10% of the overall cost.
If you want things like a paid musician (organist - regulated fees), singing group (choir) and so on, it is extra.
United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres said Wednesday that civilian objects should not be weaponized following a deadly wave of explosions across Lebanon targeting pagers used by Hezbollah.
Its like conflating the laptops / tablets military use with a Macbook Air.
Yes marriage works, is the best method for raising children and the Tory leadership contenders should be pushing big tax allowances for married couples
Another "widow" tax, then?
We would restore their winter fuel allowance too and keep their single person’s council tax discount
But only for official widows? Very keen on ensuring further income for the C of E and the weddings industry, you are.
Let me argue for the C of E for a minute there. It's taken *very* seriously and everyone works really hard at it because it is so important.
A church service in the Church of England will cost about £520-660 without optional extras. The lower end is for your home parish, with about £100 extra for not your home parish.
For that you get your own occasion in the church (ie the venue including things like heating and the staff to run it ie churchwarden), the minister (typically the vicar, who is a professional with a lot of pastoral experience and at least 2 degrees), the calling of the Banns (announcement at the Sunday Service on iirc 3 occasions), the admin and certificates. I think you get advice, helping you to think about what getting married means, meetings for discussion to make sure you really want to get married, and a rehearsal as well.
I think that is bloody good value and a strong support for couples getting married, if you consider that a car will be £250 to £350 or a dress will be £1000+ for a single occasion.
For a typical wedding the Church of England church fees will only be about 10% of the overall cost.
If you want things like a paid musician (organist - regulated fees), singing group (choir) and so on, it is extra.
To add and broaden, if you want a cheap rubber stamp you go somewhere else like Las Vegas - I don't think any church or other religious organisation (and I include the humanists are a religious organisation who pretend that they are not one, but still take things seriously) will be cheap. Inexpensive maybe, but not cheap.
Capping all salaries at the PM's level is one of the biggest problems we have in attracting and retaining major leadership talent in the public sector.
Firstly, the PM salary is paid *on top* of that of being an MP, so he's actually on 240k+, secondly there are perks and privileges to being PM, and third you can cream in a lot more with memoirs and speeches after leaving office. But in any event the 160k headline level is far too low for a PM/CEO/major leadership job and well below the market rate, which would be more like 400-600k, so you get real doughnuts in the public sector instead whilst the rest go into consultancy, private businesses or set up for themselves.
It's a little more nuanced than that. County Council Chief Executives, such as Terence Herbert at Surrey, will be on a high salary including by pension contributions. The issue isn't the CEO pay as such (there aren't many of them) but the high numbers of senior and middle managers who are on £100k and their numbers relative to the number of staff actually being managed.
Many Councils are over-managed in terms of having a disproportionately large number of senior and middle managers who fill the salary budget.
The Insider Advantage Poll - which was done at the same time as Quinnipac - had Trump at +2.
Quinnipac also has a much larger lead for Harris in Michigan for Harris than the other polls have generally shown.
The Teamsters have also refused to endorse Harris (or Trump) which is a big blow, especially given their influence in the Rustbelt states. But apparently their polling shows Teamster members voting overwhelmingly for Trump.
One final point - the polling in non-swing states (so Indiana, New Mexico, Missouri etc) is closely mirroring what happened in 2020 - which points to another nailbitter.
I agree that it continues to be a nailbiter, and for the reason you identified earlier: wages in the US (as in pretty much all developed countries) have not kept up with inflation in the last four years.
However, it is indisputably the case that Trump has had a poor polling week following the debate. It may be that this is a convention-like blip that dissipates. It may also be that the Trump campaign implodes.
Yes marriage works, is the best method for raising children and the Tory leadership contenders should be pushing big tax allowances for married couples
Another "widow" tax, then?
We would restore their winter fuel allowance too and keep their single person’s council tax discount
But only for official widows? Very keen on ensuring further income for the C of E and the weddings industry, you are.
Let me argue for the C of E for a minute there. It's taken *very* seriously and everyone works really hard at it because it is so important.
A church service in the Church of England will cost about £520-660 without optional extras. The lower end is for your home parish, with about £100 extra for not your home parish.
For that you get your own occasion in the church (ie the venue including things like heating and the staff to run it ie churchwarden), the minister (typically the vicar, who is a professional with a lot of pastoral experience and at least 2 degrees), the calling of the Banns (announcement at the Sunday Service on iirc 3 occasions), the admin and certificates. I think you get advice, helping you to think about what getting married means, meetings for discussion to make sure you really want to get married, and a rehearsal as well.
I think that is bloody good value and a strong support for couples getting married, if you consider that a car will be £250 to £350 or a dress will be £1000+ for a single occasion.
For a typical wedding the Church of England church fees will only be about 10% of the overall cost.
If you want things like a paid musician (organist - regulated fees), singing group (choir) and so on, it is extra.
And my daughters would be furious if you thought the choir was optional, even if they have missed out on the glory days of three weddings on a Saturday.
But seriously, folks. Maddening as the Church of England is, ridiculous as you might find it, society will miss it, should it go. It does a lot (including the simple act of being everywhere, not just where it's easy) for not very much, really.
I think I've accidentally stumbled across what I now realise is the greatest pop song of all time: "Vamos A La Playa" by Italian band Righeira, singing in Spanish. From 1983.
It’s satire, right? By someone who’s never been here.
I did wonder that. But if it is satire it is the Guardian satirising itself in an extremely clever and cruel way. Mocking its own posh faux-prole lefty wankiness. Having looked at the author’s other writings I don’t think he’s that sophisticated
My guess therefore is that this is “genuine” and an attempt at light humour which has failed calamitously
Seriously. Read that guardian article (if you can face intergalactic noncelord levels of cringe)
Quite something
I tried. I failed. It is indeed monumentally awful.
And yet, since it's clearly clickbait, it's also monumentally successful.
The guardian must be desperate for clicks if it is willing to publish articles that make everyone hate everything it stands for. The contempt on social media is significant
However, looking at the guardian’s dire financial situation maybe they ARE that desperate. I note they are selling the observer for pennies
Add in their fierce attacks on Starmer and something weird is happening at groaniad towers
"Artisan Polish canned food containing the iconic pea soup with homemade sausage and bacon. Ed Red's canned foods contain restaurant meals prepared by chefs using only natural ingredients of the highest quality. They are perfect as a source of sustenance during longer mountain expeditions or camping trips"
Should I buy a can?
Mm, I see they also do tripe in tomato, lovage and marjoram.
That sounds revolting.
Portuguese tripe and beans is a classic. Lovage is gross, though. I would avoid.
The pea soup with sausage also sounds like a relative of the classic German military food cooked up in a mobile cooker - with carrots, potatoes, bacon and veg.
Edit: like Cullen skink parallels clam chowders.
The mobile cooker a Goulashkanone, still mainly horse-drawn in WWII. Always handy to have a potential ingredient travelling with you.
Seriously. Read that guardian article (if you can face intergalactic noncelord levels of cringe)
Quite something
I tried. I failed. It is indeed monumentally awful.
And yet, since it's clearly clickbait, it's also monumentally successful.
The guardian must be desperate for clicks if it is willing to publish articles that make everyone hate everything it stands for. The contempt on social media is significant
However, looking at the guardian’s dire financial situation maybe they ARE that desperate. I note they are selling the observer for pennies
Add in their fierce attacks on Starmer and something weird is happening at groaniad towers
It's fascinating that that G2 tweet has 2M views, all the others have a few hundred or a couple of thousand at most. How did that one gather 1-2,000 times the views of the others?
Seriously. Read that guardian article (if you can face intergalactic noncelord levels of cringe)
Quite something
I tried. I failed. It is indeed monumentally awful.
And yet, since it's clearly clickbait, it's also monumentally successful.
The guardian must be desperate for clicks if it is willing to publish articles that make everyone hate everything it stands for. The contempt on social media is significant
However, looking at the guardian’s dire financial situation maybe they ARE that desperate. I note they are selling the observer for pennies
Add in their fierce attacks on Starmer and something weird is happening at groaniad towers
It's fascinating that that G2 tweet has 2M views, all the others have a few hundred or a couple of thousand at most. How did that one gather 1-2,000 times the views of the others?
It’s gone completely viral because the article is SO bad
It’s satire, right? By someone who’s never been here.
I did wonder that. But if it is satire it is the Guardian satirising itself in an extremely clever and cruel way. Mocking its own posh faux-prole lefty wankiness. Having looked at the author’s other writings I don’t think he’s that sophisticated
My guess therefore is that this is “genuine” and an attempt at light humour which has failed calamitously
A few of the entries are close to your "sashnation" or whatever it was when Trump was shot at the first time.
e.g
Referring to the pandemic as the “panny d”. Referring to Sainsbury’s as “Sainy B” or “Sainos”.
But otherwise it's all beyond me.
The only one I can be accused of is: 36. A Dr Oetker pizza, a couple of cold ones and a nice bit of University Challenge.
"Artisan Polish canned food containing the iconic pea soup with homemade sausage and bacon. Ed Red's canned foods contain restaurant meals prepared by chefs using only natural ingredients of the highest quality. They are perfect as a source of sustenance during longer mountain expeditions or camping trips"
Should I buy a can?
Mm, I see they also do tripe in tomato, lovage and marjoram.
That sounds revolting.
Portuguese tripe and beans is a classic. Lovage is gross, though. I would avoid.
The pea soup with sausage also sounds like a relative of the classic German military food cooked up in a mobile cooker - with carrots, potatoes, bacon and veg.
Edit: like Cullen skink parallels clam chowders.
Cullen skink is simply the Queen of soups. Even the tinned version by Baxter’s is excellent.
I have tried Cullen Skink in many high end restaurants. The best Cullen Skink is consistently served in our local village inn. The worst has been in a seafood restaurant and an upmarket hotel.
It’s satire, right? By someone who’s never been here.
I did wonder that. But if it is satire it is the Guardian satirising itself in an extremely clever and cruel way. Mocking its own posh faux-prole lefty wankiness. Having looked at the author’s other writings I don’t think he’s that sophisticated
My guess therefore is that this is “genuine” and an attempt at light humour which has failed calamitously
A few of the entries are close to your "sashnation" or whatever it was when Trump was shot at the first time.
e.g
Referring to the pandemic as the “panny d”. Referring to Sainsbury’s as “Sainy B” or “Sainos”.
But otherwise it's all beyond me.
The only one I can be accused of is: 36. A Dr Oetker pizza, a couple of cold ones and a nice bit of University Challenge.
But even that is telling. “A couple of cold ones” is an Americanism
What the article says is the guardian has no idea what Britishness is and is far too nervous to identify it with anything, anyway, so it seeks a lowest common denominator of cheap food and triviality and weird made up slang all framed with an ironic voice so it can avoid accusations of seriousness. And also it quietly despises the working class
Seriously. Read that guardian article (if you can face intergalactic noncelord levels of cringe)
Quite something
I tried. I failed. It is indeed monumentally awful.
And yet, since it's clearly clickbait, it's also monumentally successful.
The guardian must be desperate for clicks if it is willing to publish articles that make everyone hate everything it stands for. The contempt on social media is significant
However, looking at the guardian’s dire financial situation maybe they ARE that desperate. I note they are selling the observer for pennies
Add in their fierce attacks on Starmer and something weird is happening at groaniad towers
Given the Guardian is owned by the Scott Trust, which has an £850 million trust fund specifically to keep it publishing left liberal articles it can survive even if massive losses and poor journalism from time to time
Capping all salaries at the PM's level is one of the biggest problems we have in attracting and retaining major leadership talent in the public sector.
Firstly, the PM salary is paid *on top* of that of being an MP, so he's actually on 240k+, secondly there are perks and privileges to being PM, and third you can cream in a lot more with memoirs and speeches after leaving office. But in any event the 160k headline level is far too low for a PM/CEO/major leadership job and well below the market rate, which would be more like 400-600k, so you get real doughnuts in the public sector instead whilst the rest go into consultancy, private businesses or set up for themselves.
It's a little more nuanced than that. County Council Chief Executives, such as Terence Herbert at Surrey, will be on a high salary including by pension contributions. The issue isn't the CEO pay as such (there aren't many of them) but the high numbers of senior and middle managers who are on £100k and their numbers relative to the number of staff actually being managed.
Many Councils are over-managed in terms of having a disproportionately large number of senior and middle managers who fill the salary budget.
All the councils going bankrupt in next three years should sort this problem out nicely.
Seriously. Read that guardian article (if you can face intergalactic noncelord levels of cringe)
Quite something
I tried. I failed. It is indeed monumentally awful.
And yet, since it's clearly clickbait, it's also monumentally successful.
The guardian must be desperate for clicks if it is willing to publish articles that make everyone hate everything it stands for. The contempt on social media is significant
However, looking at the guardian’s dire financial situation maybe they ARE that desperate. I note they are selling the observer for pennies
Add in their fierce attacks on Starmer and something weird is happening at groaniad towers
Given the Guardian is owned by the Scott Trust, which has an £850 million trust fund specifically to keep it publishing left liberal articles it can survive even if massive losses and poor journalism from time to time
Seriously. Read that guardian article (if you can face intergalactic noncelord levels of cringe)
Quite something
I tried. I failed. It is indeed monumentally awful.
And yet, since it's clearly clickbait, it's also monumentally successful.
The guardian must be desperate for clicks if it is willing to publish articles that make everyone hate everything it stands for. The contempt on social media is significant
However, looking at the guardian’s dire financial situation maybe they ARE that desperate. I note they are selling the observer for pennies
Add in their fierce attacks on Starmer and something weird is happening at groaniad towers
Given the Guardian is owned by the Scott Trust, which has an £850 million trust fund specifically to keep it publishing left liberal articles it can survive even if massive losses and poor journalism from time to time
I’m not so sure anymore. The fact they are selling the observer is quite startling
It’s satire, right? By someone who’s never been here.
I did wonder that. But if it is satire it is the Guardian satirising itself in an extremely clever and cruel way. Mocking its own posh faux-prole lefty wankiness. Having looked at the author’s other writings I don’t think he’s that sophisticated
My guess therefore is that this is “genuine” and an attempt at light humour which has failed calamitously
One of the replies in that TwitterX thread nailed it I think:
“ This what Guardian readers assume their cleaners’ lives are like despite only meeting them for 30 seconds on a Friday to pay them.”
"Artisan Polish canned food containing the iconic pea soup with homemade sausage and bacon. Ed Red's canned foods contain restaurant meals prepared by chefs using only natural ingredients of the highest quality. They are perfect as a source of sustenance during longer mountain expeditions or camping trips"
Should I buy a can?
Mm, I see they also do tripe in tomato, lovage and marjoram.
That sounds revolting.
Portuguese tripe and beans is a classic. Lovage is gross, though. I would avoid.
The pea soup with sausage also sounds like a relative of the classic German military food cooked up in a mobile cooker - with carrots, potatoes, bacon and veg.
Edit: like Cullen skink parallels clam chowders.
Cullen skink is simply the Queen of soups. Even the tinned version by Baxter’s is excellent.
Cioppino, certes
Not had that. Looks like a good bouillabaisse, which is always enjoyable.
MSNBC guest gives a very backhanded compliment to Kamala Harris: “Our country is so great that we’d allow a woman like that to become the commander in chief.”
"Artisan Polish canned food containing the iconic pea soup with homemade sausage and bacon. Ed Red's canned foods contain restaurant meals prepared by chefs using only natural ingredients of the highest quality. They are perfect as a source of sustenance during longer mountain expeditions or camping trips"
Should I buy a can?
Mm, I see they also do tripe in tomato, lovage and marjoram.
That sounds revolting.
Portuguese tripe and beans is a classic. Lovage is gross, though. I would avoid.
The pea soup with sausage also sounds like a relative of the classic German military food cooked up in a mobile cooker - with carrots, potatoes, bacon and veg.
Edit: like Cullen skink parallels clam chowders.
Cullen skink is simply the Queen of soups. Even the tinned version by Baxter’s is excellent.
I have tried Cullen Skink in many high end restaurants. The best Cullen Skink is consistently served in our local village inn. The worst has been in a seafood restaurant and an upmarket hotel.
It’s always a mistake if an establishment thinks they can “improve” it by making it more sophisticated or posher. The basic soup is the best.
"Artisan Polish canned food containing the iconic pea soup with homemade sausage and bacon. Ed Red's canned foods contain restaurant meals prepared by chefs using only natural ingredients of the highest quality. They are perfect as a source of sustenance during longer mountain expeditions or camping trips"
Should I buy a can?
Mm, I see they also do tripe in tomato, lovage and marjoram.
That sounds revolting.
Portuguese tripe and beans is a classic. Lovage is gross, though. I would avoid.
The pea soup with sausage also sounds like a relative of the classic German military food cooked up in a mobile cooker - with carrots, potatoes, bacon and veg.
Edit: like Cullen skink parallels clam chowders.
Cullen skink is simply the Queen of soups. Even the tinned version by Baxter’s is excellent.
I have tried Cullen Skink in many high end restaurants. The best Cullen Skink is consistently served in our local village inn. The worst has been in a seafood restaurant and an upmarket hotel.
I declare myself a Cullen skink fan too. When a burger and chips is now £18, £8 is a steal.
I like it when they're not quite sure what's in it, as long as there is a critical mass of haddock.
Yes marriage works, is the best method for raising children and the Tory leadership contenders should be pushing big tax allowances for married couples
Another "widow" tax, then?
We would restore their winter fuel allowance too and keep their single person’s council tax discount
But only for official widows? Very keen on ensuring further income for the C of E and the weddings industry, you are.
I see John Major has been bumping his gums about Brexit and how awful right wing things are again. He must be the loudest and most obnoxious dignified publicity-shy former PM that we have.
"Artisan Polish canned food containing the iconic pea soup with homemade sausage and bacon. Ed Red's canned foods contain restaurant meals prepared by chefs using only natural ingredients of the highest quality. They are perfect as a source of sustenance during longer mountain expeditions or camping trips"
Should I buy a can?
Mm, I see they also do tripe in tomato, lovage and marjoram.
That sounds revolting.
Portuguese tripe and beans is a classic. Lovage is gross, though. I would avoid.
The pea soup with sausage also sounds like a relative of the classic German military food cooked up in a mobile cooker - with carrots, potatoes, bacon and veg.
Edit: like Cullen skink parallels clam chowders.
Cullen skink is simply the Queen of soups. Even the tinned version by Baxter’s is excellent.
Cioppino, certes
Not had that. Looks like a good bouillabaisse, which is always enjoyable.
It’s better than bouillabaisse to my mind, tho the principle is the same. One of those coastal dishes where the fishermen chuck in all the weird fish and fish scraps that might get binned; cook them up with spice and tomatoes and garlic and wine - bingo
Also it’s really easy to make. I use this rick stein recipe
"Artisan Polish canned food containing the iconic pea soup with homemade sausage and bacon. Ed Red's canned foods contain restaurant meals prepared by chefs using only natural ingredients of the highest quality. They are perfect as a source of sustenance during longer mountain expeditions or camping trips"
Should I buy a can?
Mm, I see they also do tripe in tomato, lovage and marjoram.
That sounds revolting.
Portuguese tripe and beans is a classic. Lovage is gross, though. I would avoid.
The pea soup with sausage also sounds like a relative of the classic German military food cooked up in a mobile cooker - with carrots, potatoes, bacon and veg.
Edit: like Cullen skink parallels clam chowders.
Cullen skink is simply the Queen of soups. Even the tinned version by Baxter’s is excellent.
I have tried Cullen Skink in many high end restaurants. The best Cullen Skink is consistently served in our local village inn. The worst has been in a seafood restaurant and an upmarket hotel.
It’s always a mistake if an establishment thinks they can “improve” it by making it more sophisticated or posher. The basic soup is the best.
Agreed. A cafe bistro in Peebles, now sadly closed, had it on their menu foir many years - the plain kind, with proper smoked haddock I suspect from Eyemouth. But Mrs C makes her own easily enough. Essentially potato and onion soup with milk and haddock added near the end.
"Artisan Polish canned food containing the iconic pea soup with homemade sausage and bacon. Ed Red's canned foods contain restaurant meals prepared by chefs using only natural ingredients of the highest quality. They are perfect as a source of sustenance during longer mountain expeditions or camping trips"
Should I buy a can?
Mm, I see they also do tripe in tomato, lovage and marjoram.
That sounds revolting.
Portuguese tripe and beans is a classic. Lovage is gross, though. I would avoid.
The pea soup with sausage also sounds like a relative of the classic German military food cooked up in a mobile cooker - with carrots, potatoes, bacon and veg.
Edit: like Cullen skink parallels clam chowders.
Cullen skink is simply the Queen of soups. Even the tinned version by Baxter’s is excellent.
I have tried Cullen Skink in many high end restaurants. The best Cullen Skink is consistently served in our local village inn. The worst has been in a seafood restaurant and an upmarket hotel.
It’s always a mistake if an establishment thinks they can “improve” it by making it more sophisticated or posher. The basic soup is the best.
Agreed. A cafe bistro in Peebles, now sadly closed, had it on their menu foir many years - the plain kind, with proper smoked haddock I suspect from Eyemouth. But Mrs C makes her own easily enough. Essentially potato and onion soup with milk and haddock added near the end.
The joy of good fish dishes is that simpler is nearly always better. Arguably the ultimate seafood dishes are oysters or sashimi which are simply raw - all you need is a condiment
Seriously. Read that guardian article (if you can face intergalactic noncelord levels of cringe)
Quite something
I tried. I failed. It is indeed monumentally awful.
And yet, since it's clearly clickbait, it's also monumentally successful.
The guardian must be desperate for clicks if it is willing to publish articles that make everyone hate everything it stands for. The contempt on social media is significant
However, looking at the guardian’s dire financial situation maybe they ARE that desperate. I note they are selling the observer for pennies
Add in their fierce attacks on Starmer and something weird is happening at groaniad towers
Given the Guardian is owned by the Scott Trust, which has an £850 million trust fund specifically to keep it publishing left liberal articles it can survive even if massive losses and poor journalism from time to time
I’m not so sure anymore. The fact they are selling the observer is quite startling
The terms of the Scott Trust are quite clear that its close to a billion pounds worth is only to be used to keep the Guardian publishing left liberal articles whether the public want to read them in significant numbers or not. It is therefore immune to market forces whatever happens to its sister paper the Observer.
The Guardian editor is basically effectively a trust fund heir to a vast fortune who doesn't need to work or sell a product people actually want to buy as long as he complies with the term of his trust and gets his inheritance
Seriously. Read that guardian article (if you can face intergalactic noncelord levels of cringe)
Quite something
I tried. I failed. It is indeed monumentally awful.
And yet, since it's clearly clickbait, it's also monumentally successful.
The guardian must be desperate for clicks if it is willing to publish articles that make everyone hate everything it stands for. The contempt on social media is significant
However, looking at the guardian’s dire financial situation maybe they ARE that desperate. I note they are selling the observer for pennies
Add in their fierce attacks on Starmer and something weird is happening at groaniad towers
Given the Guardian is owned by the Scott Trust, which has an £850 million trust fund specifically to keep it publishing left liberal articles it can survive even if massive losses and poor journalism from time to time
I’m not so sure anymore. The fact they are selling the observer is quite startling
The terms of the Scott Trust are quite clear that its close to a billion pounds worth is only to be used to keep the Guardian publishing left liberal articles whether the public want to read them in significant numbers or not. It is therefore immune to market forces whatever happens to its sister paper the Observer.
The Guardian editor is basically effectively a trust fund heir to a vast fortune who doesn't need to work or sell a product people actually want to buy as long as he complies with the term of his trust and gets his inheritance
I thought you were in favour of inheritance so people don't have to work for a living so long as they vote Tory?
"Artisan Polish canned food containing the iconic pea soup with homemade sausage and bacon. Ed Red's canned foods contain restaurant meals prepared by chefs using only natural ingredients of the highest quality. They are perfect as a source of sustenance during longer mountain expeditions or camping trips"
Should I buy a can?
Mm, I see they also do tripe in tomato, lovage and marjoram.
That sounds revolting.
Portuguese tripe and beans is a classic. Lovage is gross, though. I would avoid.
The pea soup with sausage also sounds like a relative of the classic German military food cooked up in a mobile cooker - with carrots, potatoes, bacon and veg.
Edit: like Cullen skink parallels clam chowders.
Cullen skink is simply the Queen of soups. Even the tinned version by Baxter’s is excellent.
I have tried Cullen Skink in many high end restaurants. The best Cullen Skink is consistently served in our local village inn. The worst has been in a seafood restaurant and an upmarket hotel.
It’s always a mistake if an establishment thinks they can “improve” it by making it more sophisticated or posher. The basic soup is the best.
Agreed. A cafe bistro in Peebles, now sadly closed, had it on their menu foir many years - the plain kind, with proper smoked haddock I suspect from Eyemouth. But Mrs C makes her own easily enough. Essentially potato and onion soup with milk and haddock added near the end.
The joy of good fish dishes is that simpler is nearly always better. Arguably the ultimate seafood dishes are oysters or sashimi which are simply raw - all you need is a condiment
And simple also means quick
Oddly enough we also had monkfish this evening - although in a very basic sauce of tomato, carrot, shallot and capers, and with rice..
"Artisan Polish canned food containing the iconic pea soup with homemade sausage and bacon. Ed Red's canned foods contain restaurant meals prepared by chefs using only natural ingredients of the highest quality. They are perfect as a source of sustenance during longer mountain expeditions or camping trips"
Should I buy a can?
Mm, I see they also do tripe in tomato, lovage and marjoram.
That sounds revolting.
Portuguese tripe and beans is a classic. Lovage is gross, though. I would avoid.
The pea soup with sausage also sounds like a relative of the classic German military food cooked up in a mobile cooker - with carrots, potatoes, bacon and veg.
Edit: like Cullen skink parallels clam chowders.
Cullen skink is simply the Queen of soups. Even the tinned version by Baxter’s is excellent.
I have tried Cullen Skink in many high end restaurants. The best Cullen Skink is consistently served in our local village inn. The worst has been in a seafood restaurant and an upmarket hotel.
It’s always a mistake if an establishment thinks they can “improve” it by making it more sophisticated or posher. The basic soup is the best.
Agreed. A cafe bistro in Peebles, now sadly closed, had it on their menu foir many years - the plain kind, with proper smoked haddock I suspect from Eyemouth. But Mrs C makes her own easily enough. Essentially potato and onion soup with milk and haddock added near the end.
The joy of good fish dishes is that simpler is nearly always better. Arguably the ultimate seafood dishes are oysters or sashimi which are simply raw - all you need is a condiment
And simple also means quick
Oddly enough we also had monkfish this evening - although in a very basic sauce of tomato, carrot, shallot and capers, and with rice..
Fish with capers nearly always works. Love me some capers
Yes marriage works, is the best method for raising children and the Tory leadership contenders should be pushing big tax allowances for married couples
Another "widow" tax, then?
We would restore their winter fuel allowance too and keep their single person’s council tax discount
But only for official widows? Very keen on ensuring further income for the C of E and the weddings industry, you are.
Let me argue for the C of E for a minute there. It's taken *very* seriously and everyone works really hard at it because it is so important.
A church service in the Church of England will cost about £520-660 without optional extras. The lower end is for your home parish, with about £100 extra for not your home parish.
For that you get your own occasion in the church (ie the venue including things like heating and the staff to run it ie churchwarden), the minister (typically the vicar, who is a professional with a lot of pastoral experience and at least 2 degrees), the calling of the Banns (announcement at the Sunday Service on iirc 3 occasions), the admin and certificates. I think you get advice, helping you to think about what getting married means, meetings for discussion to make sure you really want to get married, and a rehearsal as well.
I think that is bloody good value and a strong support for couples getting married, if you consider that a car will be £250 to £350 or a dress will be £1000+ for a single occasion.
For a typical wedding the Church of England church fees will only be about 10% of the overall cost.
If you want things like a paid musician (organist - regulated fees), singing group (choir) and so on, it is extra.
Our vicar ran a very thought provoking marriage class that, among other things, caused us to reconfigure our finances. Before that we had our salaries into our own accounts, then both contributed a fixed amount each month to the joint account for bills etc. After, we paid our salaries into the joint account and paid from that a fairly small fixed amount into our personal accounts for whatever frivolous things we each wanted to spend it on.
The class also caused a recently married couple, who we knew, who undortunately hadn't managed to attend before the ceremony to split-up - the wife was made by the class to confront her true feelings, which was that she loved women not men.
It benefitted from a very engaging and charismatic vicar, who a few years later left his own wife (and the parish) to move in with his boyfriend.
Anyway, for all those reasons the thing was memorable and seemed like value for money. I'm also now nine years married, which also makes it seem like value.
*he’s still attending No10 meetings despite having pass removed *close relationship with Sue Gray makes him ever-present figure *he’s donated more than £575,000 to Labour politicians in 4 years *intimate donor dinners at his Mayfair home *lavish late night pool parties with Cabinet ministers at his Kent mansion *he’s the donor to go to when Labour politicians need a suit, loan or birthday party paid for *£14,000 for ‘events’ for Bridget Phillipson shortly before her 40th bday
"£575,000 to Labour politicians in 4 years"
Note Politicians, not the party.
Classic buying influence.
But I don't understand, Anabobazina said there was nothing to this story.
He’s a posh banker - £575k is like a week’s income for him
Our 31st wedding anniversary today. 34 years to the day since we met. Had a fantastic day in sun drenched Lincoln.
Congratulations Mr & Mrs Tyndall, a great achievement. You’re either older than I thought you were, or got married very young indeed!
Oh I am considerably older than you thought. Three score next year.
I had you early 50s.
It’s interesting how much we get an impression of who other posters here are, and what their lives might look like.
A little while ago @BartholomewRoberts guessed I was in my early 40s. Since then I have been more open about my age. I am 70 in a couple of months. @BartholomewRoberts became my favourite poster for sometime after that. I'm guessing it was because of my socially liberal views rather than being the stereotype old codger.
we are very close then, i have only a few months of my 60's left
Seriously. Read that guardian article (if you can face intergalactic noncelord levels of cringe)
Quite something
I tried. I failed. It is indeed monumentally awful.
And yet, since it's clearly clickbait, it's also monumentally successful.
The guardian must be desperate for clicks if it is willing to publish articles that make everyone hate everything it stands for. The contempt on social media is significant
However, looking at the guardian’s dire financial situation maybe they ARE that desperate. I note they are selling the observer for pennies
Add in their fierce attacks on Starmer and something weird is happening at groaniad towers
Given the Guardian is owned by the Scott Trust, which has an £850 million trust fund specifically to keep it publishing left liberal articles it can survive even if massive losses and poor journalism from time to time
I’m not so sure anymore. The fact they are selling the observer is quite startling
The terms of the Scott Trust are quite clear that its close to a billion pounds worth is only to be used to keep the Guardian publishing left liberal articles whether the public want to read them in significant numbers or not. It is therefore immune to market forces whatever happens to its sister paper the Observer.
The Guardian editor is basically effectively a trust fund heir to a vast fortune who doesn't need to work or sell a product people actually want to buy as long as he complies with the term of his trust and gets his inheritance
The Guardian reported losses of £36.5m in its last financial year yesterday, although hilariously they call this "Adjusted net operating cash outflow" instead of losses. That's up from £22m the year before.
Seriously. Read that guardian article (if you can face intergalactic noncelord levels of cringe)
Quite something
I tried. I failed. It is indeed monumentally awful.
And yet, since it's clearly clickbait, it's also monumentally successful.
The guardian must be desperate for clicks if it is willing to publish articles that make everyone hate everything it stands for. The contempt on social media is significant
However, looking at the guardian’s dire financial situation maybe they ARE that desperate. I note they are selling the observer for pennies
Add in their fierce attacks on Starmer and something weird is happening at groaniad towers
Given the Guardian is owned by the Scott Trust, which has an £850 million trust fund specifically to keep it publishing left liberal articles it can survive even if massive losses and poor journalism from time to time
I’m not so sure anymore. The fact they are selling the observer is quite startling
The terms of the Scott Trust are quite clear that its close to a billion pounds worth is only to be used to keep the Guardian publishing left liberal articles whether the public want to read them in significant numbers or not. It is therefore immune to market forces whatever happens to its sister paper the Observer.
The Guardian editor is basically effectively a trust fund heir to a vast fortune who doesn't need to work or sell a product people actually want to buy as long as he complies with the term of his trust and gets his inheritance
I dunno. The Scott trust lost £50m last year taking it down to £1.2bn - largely because of losses at the guardian
At that rate they can run the guardian for another 20 years and they will then go bust
But I don’t think it works like that. No trust can tolerate losing 5% of its capital a year with no end in sight and inevitable death if nothing changes
I imagine there are now intense pressures on the guardian to stem the losses and start making £££ - not least because plenty of other papers -like the telegraph and the spectator and the NYT and the mail - are now making profits. It can be done
Re the three rings, perhaps you should have followed the French model: Engagement Ring, Wedding Ring, Philandering (although I'm not sure it necessarily has to happen in that order!)
I did follow the French model.
Did she 'follow' you back?
She did, sadly it was Apple that was responsible for everybody finding out.
No, it was Mr Eagles and his lack of understanding of technology, that led to ‘everybody’ finding out.
It amuses my friends and colleagues that Mr Apple himself was hoist by his own Apple.
Messages replicating across devices totally seamlessly, is the single best thing about the Apple ecosystem.
I have an old iPhone SE as my phone, which I use for little more than making phone calls - and tethering the iPad, which is the main device and from which I can do a day’s work anywhere from a pub to a motorway rest stop.
Oh God help me.
I've just done a software update on my MacBook and I now get this, the option to mirror my iPhone on this MacBook.
Like I am not worried enough when somebody asks to use my MacBook.
We’ve been instructed not to install the latest OS update. Certain incompatibilities with US law…
In this day and age, why would you buy the Observer alone? There really isn't the business case for a stand alone Sunday offering. Are you going to have different offices, different staff etc etc etc just to write a newspaper for one day of the week?
It’s satire, right? By someone who’s never been here.
I did wonder that. But if it is satire it is the Guardian satirising itself in an extremely clever and cruel way. Mocking its own posh faux-prole lefty wankiness. Having looked at the author’s other writings I don’t think he’s that sophisticated
My guess therefore is that this is “genuine” and an attempt at light humour which has failed calamitously
A few of the entries are close to your "sashnation" or whatever it was when Trump was shot at the first time.
e.g
Referring to the pandemic as the “panny d”. Referring to Sainsbury’s as “Sainy B” or “Sainos”.
But otherwise it's all beyond me.
The only one I can be accused of is: 36. A Dr Oetker pizza, a couple of cold ones and a nice bit of University Challenge.
The only one I could sort of relate to is PTSD from watching Tales of Farthing Wood. When they did the adult version called GoT they upped the sex but seriously reduced both the violence and the attrition rate. It certainly traumatised my daughter and me, somewhat vicariously.
Most of them I have no idea what he is talking about and I don’t have any inclination to find out.
*he’s still attending No10 meetings despite having pass removed *close relationship with Sue Gray makes him ever-present figure *he’s donated more than £575,000 to Labour politicians in 4 years *intimate donor dinners at his Mayfair home *lavish late night pool parties with Cabinet ministers at his Kent mansion *he’s the donor to go to when Labour politicians need a suit, loan or birthday party paid for *£14,000 for ‘events’ for Bridget Phillipson shortly before her 40th bday
How can Labour be THIS venal, greedy and stupid? It beggars belief. And then Labour would steal belief from the beggar anyway
Corbyn wouldn't do it!
Unless it was from Hezbollah, in which case he'd make an exception.
Corbyn accepted only one bit of hospitality during his tenure as leader: tickets for Glastonbury. Miliband accepted some tickets for the Olympics, and Brown accepted nothing. Blair accepted quite a bit, but, incredibly, Starmer has accepted more hospitality than his four predecessors combined. And his tenure includes a period when no-one was allowed to do anything.
I suspect Starmer is going to end up hated more bitterly than any PM in modern history. He is already dislikeable - now it turns out he’s greedy and corrupt. And he’s clueless and disapproving and tin-eared. And he has an annoying voice. And little squinty eyes as he frowns at you through his free £20k designer specs, for eating a pie without his permission as he steals your granny’s last lump of coal
What on earth are you going to say about him in 4 years time?
I’m just getting started. It’s quite fun to hate a government and the hatred will only build
You will hate this government, I'm sure, and you'll look back on these days as a relaxing passing of the time. Clueless is perhaps the jibe that counts.
I entirely agree. All the dislikeable stuff about Starmer - even the greed and grift - would be forgivable if he looked like he has a single good idea for really improving the UK. But so far: nada
Makes me wonder why you voted for him.
The bitterness at the Labour victory has been quite something. All these Tories who went into hiding going into the election are now screaming at the moon. Hopefully they'll settle down and stop the dull repetitive posts but it might take a while. The nice thing is you can skip 4 out of 6 posts which makes the thread easier to flick through
Roger - how would you rate the performance of the Labour government so far? I myself would rate them 5/10 so far
Minus several thousand and eleven on a scale of 1 to 10
The reason this bitterness and grief stuff has no traction is that grief notably decays over time. Every Tory except a tiny handful of nutters has realised that the thing was dead since some time between 2016 and 2021. It's the left who have realised 10 weeks into a starry eyed marriage that their spouse is a humourless psychopathic miser who married them for the money. I share the grief because irrespective of my politics I do like to be governed competently, but that ship has well and truly sailed.
Looking on the bright side he is a great comic creation. We are governed by Peter Sellers as inspector clouseau. Clothesgate is a faithful remake of Clouseau's arrival at the Palace Hotel where he hands over his coat and hat to a thief who drives off in them, just with the film running backwards. Mr Hulot's Premiership. Enjoy, because this is as good as it's going to get.
United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres said Wednesday that civilian objects should not be weaponized following a deadly wave of explosions across Lebanon targeting pagers used by Hezbollah.
Its like conflating the laptops / tablets military use with a Macbook Air.
Those absolute morons never utter a squeak about Russia murdering civilians by teh barrowload. A bigger bunch of troughing nasty shysters has never been assembled.
My wife being from a Lossiemouth fishing family makes a variation on Cullen Skink as follows
Diced onions, softened in a little butter and milk, then added chopped up potatoes with seasoning, before adding fresh haddock and it was pronounced soz.
She said that very few of her relatives made it with smoked haddock preferring the fresh haddock from the fleet
Of course Cullen Skink origin is from the village of the same name
It’s satire, right? By someone who’s never been here.
I did wonder that. But if it is satire it is the Guardian satirising itself in an extremely clever and cruel way. Mocking its own posh faux-prole lefty wankiness. Having looked at the author’s other writings I don’t think he’s that sophisticated
My guess therefore is that this is “genuine” and an attempt at light humour which has failed calamitously
A few of the entries are close to your "sashnation" or whatever it was when Trump was shot at the first time.
e.g
Referring to the pandemic as the “panny d”. Referring to Sainsbury’s as “Sainy B” or “Sainos”.
But otherwise it's all beyond me.
The only one I can be accused of is: 36. A Dr Oetker pizza, a couple of cold ones and a nice bit of University Challenge.
But even that is telling. “A couple of cold ones” is an Americanism
What the article says is the guardian has no idea what Britishness is and is far too nervous to identify it with anything, anyway, so it seeks a lowest common denominator of cheap food and triviality and weird made up slang all framed with an ironic voice so it can avoid accusations of seriousness. And also it quietly despises the working class
Naturlich. Everybody knows that UKers like their beer to be the temperature of lukewarm piss.
A really annoying feature in new Mac OS, every month it will bug you if you want to allow each and every app that can access your camera / microphone. You can't say, yes I trust Microsoft f##king Teams, I don't need to click yes every sodding month.
I see John Major has been bumping his gums about Brexit and how awful right wing things are again. He must be the loudest and most obnoxious dignified publicity-shy former PM that we have.
He’s also the longest-serving former PM the Tories have who isn’t pushing up the daisies. He was obviously doing something right that the four five who followed him weren’t.
(Edited to correct the number of post-Major Tory PMs. Forgot about Lady Jane Grey Lettuce Liz, if you can believe such a thing.)
United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres said Wednesday that civilian objects should not be weaponized following a deadly wave of explosions across Lebanon targeting pagers used by Hezbollah.
Its like conflating the laptops / tablets military use with a Macbook Air.
Those absolute morons never utter a squeak about Russia murdering civilians by teh barrowload. A bigger bunch of troughing nasty shysters has never been assembled.
United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres said Wednesday that civilian objects should not be weaponized following a deadly wave of explosions across Lebanon targeting pagers used by Hezbollah.
Its like conflating the laptops / tablets military use with a Macbook Air.
Those absolute morons never utter a squeak about Russia murdering civilians by teh barrowload. A bigger bunch of troughing nasty shysters has never been assembled.
"Artisan Polish canned food containing the iconic pea soup with homemade sausage and bacon. Ed Red's canned foods contain restaurant meals prepared by chefs using only natural ingredients of the highest quality. They are perfect as a source of sustenance during longer mountain expeditions or camping trips"
Should I buy a can?
Mm, I see they also do tripe in tomato, lovage and marjoram.
That sounds revolting.
Portuguese tripe and beans is a classic. Lovage is gross, though. I would avoid.
The pea soup with sausage also sounds like a relative of the classic German military food cooked up in a mobile cooker - with carrots, potatoes, bacon and veg.
Edit: like Cullen skink parallels clam chowders.
Cullen skink is simply the Queen of soups. Even the tinned version by Baxter’s is excellent.
Cioppino, certes
Not had that. Looks like a good bouillabaisse, which is always enjoyable.
It’s better than bouillabaisse to my mind, tho the principle is the same. One of those coastal dishes where the fishermen chuck in all the weird fish and fish scraps that might get binned; cook them up with spice and tomatoes and garlic and wine - bingo
Also it’s really easy to make. I use this rick stein recipe
I add some fennel seeds, black mustard and a couple of finger chilies for heat
Getting good sourdough is vital
I’m a fan of fish soup anywhere that fresh fish is coming in for exactly that reason.
My late father in law used to help the fishermen unload their boats when he was a boy in Arbroath and get presented with a large sea bass for his troubles to take home. In those days there was no market for it and most of them went to cat food.
EXC: Keir Starmer repeatedly used an £18 million penthouse owned by the Labour donor Lord Alli before entering No10
Starmer was at the 5,000 sq ft London home on election night for the exit poll. Also held meetings there.
Crikey. They are really going for him
What’s he done to annoy all of Fleet Street?
That said this doesn’t look as bad as clobbergate
Maybe they have got wind of special taxation on those earning over £100k....in particular those that like to use personal service companies for freelancing work?
I remember the media totally OTT reaction to Hammond putting up NI by £500 for those people (which might include me) and forcing him to U-turn.
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Edit: like Cullen skink parallels clam chowders.
The team who did the digital dashboard should have been paid whatever they wanted to continue their data revolution. Apparently at the start of COVID Simon Stevens had to personally ring around every NHS Trust every day and ask for the daily numbers, which he wrote on a whiteboard, that he then wheeled into to cabinet office...they didn't even have the ability to share docs to work on securely, they used a personal gmail account and google docs / sheets.
Sometimes it's simple and sometimes it's complicated.
That's humans, that is.
Comparing current polling with 2020 is not necessarily comparing like with like.
When I worked in the civil service I knew many such people, some of whom had previously been earning big money in the private sector. There's more to talent recruitment than just wages.
The Times Educational Supplement is actually edited by Gabriele D'Annunzio, reincarnated.
There's the great pension and gongs as well.
A church service in the Church of England will cost about £520-660 without optional extras. The lower end is for your home parish, with about £100 extra for not your home parish.
For that you get your own occasion in the church (ie the venue including things like heating and the staff to run it ie churchwarden), the minister (typically the vicar, who is a professional with a lot of pastoral experience and at least 2 degrees), the calling of the Banns (announcement at the Sunday Service on iirc 3 occasions), the admin and certificates. I think you get advice, helping you to think about what getting married means, meetings for discussion to make sure you really want to get married, and a rehearsal as well.
I think that is bloody good value and a strong support for couples getting married, if you consider that a car will be £250 to £350 or a dress will be £1000+ for a single occasion.
For a typical wedding the Church of England church fees will only be about 10% of the overall cost.
If you want things like a paid musician (organist - regulated fees), singing group (choir) and so on, it is extra.
https://www.churchofengland.org/life-events/your-church-wedding/just-engaged/cost-church-weddings
https://x.com/guardiang2/status/1836254461146337424?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw
I am sure @El_Capitano would agree...
Its like conflating the laptops / tablets military use with a Macbook Air.
https://www.churchofengland.org/life-events/your-church-wedding/just-engaged/cost-church-weddings
Quite something
Using my image of the day on this...
https://bsky.app/profile/drjennings.bsky.social/post/3l4hefg4jwi2j
https://x.com/guardiang2/status/1836254461146337424
Many Councils are over-managed in terms of having a disproportionately large number of senior and middle managers who fill the salary budget.
However, it is indisputably the case that Trump has had a poor polling week following the debate. It may be that this is a convention-like blip that dissipates. It may also be that the Trump campaign implodes.
We shall see.
But seriously, folks. Maddening as the Church of England is, ridiculous as you might find it, society will miss it, should it go. It does a lot (including the simple act of being everywhere, not just where it's easy) for not very much, really.
I think I've accidentally stumbled across what I now realise is the greatest pop song of all time: "Vamos A La Playa" by Italian band Righeira, singing in Spanish. From 1983.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxTFDfe_WNc
I'm quite sure that any more will leave me with permanent brain damage
My guess therefore is that this is “genuine” and an attempt at light humour which has failed calamitously
And yet, since it's clearly clickbait, it's also monumentally successful.
However, looking at the guardian’s dire financial situation maybe they ARE that desperate. I note they are selling the observer for pennies
Add in their fierce attacks on Starmer and something weird is happening at groaniad towers
"Can you print this and hand it out in Calais please?
I think we’ve found something that will stop the boats.
The Guardian is Britain’s cold sore."
e.g
Referring to the pandemic as the “panny d”.
Referring to Sainsbury’s as “Sainy B” or “Sainos”.
But otherwise it's all beyond me.
The only one I can be accused of is: 36. A Dr Oetker pizza, a couple of cold ones and a nice bit of University Challenge.
C word in mid September??
What the article says is the guardian has no idea what Britishness is and is far too nervous to identify it with anything, anyway, so it seeks a lowest common denominator of cheap food and triviality and weird made up slang all framed with an ironic voice so it can avoid accusations of seriousness. And also it quietly despises the working class
“ This what Guardian readers assume their cleaners’ lives are like despite only meeting them for 30 seconds on a Friday to pay them.”
https://x.com/realdailywire/status/1836417430819684509
I like it when they're not quite sure what's in it, as long as there is a critical mass of haddock.
Also it’s really easy to make. I use this rick stein recipe
https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/monkfish_mussel_and_90131
I add some fennel seeds, black mustard and a couple of finger chilies for heat
Getting good sourdough is vital
And simple also means quick
The Guardian editor is basically effectively a trust fund heir to a vast fortune who doesn't need to work or sell a product people actually want to buy as long as he complies with the term of his trust and gets his inheritance
https://x.com/electionmapsuk/status/1836195157194022936
Bestwood St Albans (Gedling) Council By-Election Result:
🌳 CON: 47.8% (+16.3)
🌹 LAB: 40.1% (-12.3)
🔶 LDM: 12.1% (+6.3)
No GRN (-10.3) as previous.
Conservative GAIN from Labour.
Changes w/ 2023.
Our vicar ran a very thought provoking marriage class that, among other things, caused us to reconfigure our finances. Before that we had our salaries into our own accounts, then both contributed a fixed amount each month to the joint account for bills etc. After, we paid our salaries into the joint account and paid from that a fairly small fixed amount into our personal accounts for whatever frivolous things we each wanted to spend it on.
The class also caused a recently married couple, who we knew, who undortunately hadn't managed to attend before the ceremony to split-up - the wife was made by the class to confront her true feelings, which was that she loved women not men.
It benefitted from a very engaging and charismatic vicar, who a few years later left his own wife (and the parish) to move in with his boyfriend.
Anyway, for all those reasons the thing was memorable and seemed like value for money. I'm also now nine years married, which also makes it seem like value.
They could run out of money.
At that rate they can run the guardian for another 20 years and they will then go bust
But I don’t think it works like that. No trust can tolerate losing 5% of its capital a year with no end in sight and inevitable death if nothing changes
I imagine there are now intense pressures on the guardian to stem the losses and start making £££ - not least because plenty of other papers -like the telegraph and the spectator and the NYT and the mail - are now making profits. It can be done
Most of them I have no idea what he is talking about and I don’t have any inclination to find out.
The reason this bitterness and grief stuff has no traction is that grief notably decays over time. Every Tory except a tiny handful of nutters has realised that the thing was dead since some time between 2016 and 2021. It's the left who have realised 10 weeks into a starry eyed marriage that their spouse is a humourless psychopathic miser who married them for the money. I share the grief because irrespective of my politics I do like to be governed competently, but that ship has well and truly sailed.
Looking on the bright side he is a great comic creation. We are governed by Peter Sellers as inspector clouseau. Clothesgate is a faithful remake of Clouseau's arrival at the Palace Hotel where he hands over his coat and hat to a thief who drives off in them, just with the film running backwards. Mr Hulot's Premiership. Enjoy, because this is as good as it's going to get.
I spoke to someone today who had already bought special xmas coffee mugs ready for the big day.
Diced onions, softened in a little butter and milk, then added chopped up potatoes with seasoning, before adding fresh haddock and it was pronounced soz.
She said that very few of her relatives made it with smoked haddock preferring the fresh haddock from the fleet
Of course Cullen Skink origin is from the village of the same name
EXC: Keir Starmer repeatedly used an £18 million penthouse owned by the Labour donor Lord Alli before entering No10
Starmer was at the 5,000 sq ft London home on election night for the exit poll. Also held meetings there.
(Edited to correct the number of post-Major Tory PMs. Forgot about Lady Jane Grey Lettuce Liz, if you can believe such a thing.)
What’s he done to annoy all of Fleet Street?
That said this doesn’t look as bad as clobbergate
Paul DanielsLord Alli....My late father in law used to help the fishermen unload their boats when he was a boy in Arbroath and get presented with a large sea bass for his troubles to take home. In those days there was no market for it and most of them went to cat food.
I remember the media totally OTT reaction to Hammond putting up NI by £500 for those people (which might include me) and forcing him to U-turn.