Morning all! Have banned the first (of many) cybernat off my Facebook page. Debate is one thing. Abuse is another. Seeya lad. I block and move on. You will always be that angry. Dear oh dear what must that be like...
You are fitting right into the typical unionist arsehole with your "cybernat" routine. Just another carpetbagger.
My reaction to someone with dementia is sadness. It's a horrible disease and I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
Of course CD but the snowflakes have to criticise you for not being a wokish halfwit and wittering on about how oppressed the trans are, how statues should be bulldozed, and any other crap "my rights" rubbish. Pretty obvious that no-one would think Dementia is funny.
I disagree. What is the point of the threader? Is it supposed to be about abuse against politicians, in which case it should perhaps mention that this is incredibly more common (as I mentioned in my post below, Duffield isn't the only politician pulling out of hustings).
Or is it yet again another anti-trans diatribe, poorly hidden amongst concern for politicians? Or just one politician, in this case?
It is a plea for the need to have civilised and open discourse on any subject. It is a concern that keyboard warriors find it so easy to be so abusive in social media, a concern that I share. It is the fear that this abusive rudeness can spill into the real world with dangerous consequences.
Even on PB, which is largely an island of respectful if vigorous discourse (and puns, of course), we have been seeing an increase in the levels of personal abuse over recent months. It is the nature of the beast and the unfiltered way that people react to it. It is not good for us and @Cyclefree invites us all to agree on at least that. She is right.
It is noy such a plea IMV; if it was. it would not hang the entire threader on just one person who receives abuse, when the issue if abuse against MPs and others is far wider. By all means use the abuse against Duffield as a hook n which to hang the story, but making it just about Duffield indicates a different intent
It is just another excuse for anti-trans commentary.
There is a difference, Mr Jessop. The other three have some science to back them up.
"I feel like I'm a woman, therefore I am a woman." Hmm ... I've referreed scientific papers but that one lacks the credibility test.
That's a really odd comment. Have you never heard of gender dysphoria? (A term I don't particularly like, as some use it as indication of an illness that requires treatment, rather than just a state of being).
I disagree. What is the point of the threader? Is it supposed to be about abuse against politicians, in which case it should perhaps mention that this is incredibly more common (as I mentioned in my post below, Duffield isn't the only politician pulling out of hustings).
Or is it yet again another anti-trans diatribe, poorly hidden amongst concern for politicians? Or just one politician, in this case?
It is a plea for the need to have civilised and open discourse on any subject. It is a concern that keyboard warriors find it so easy to be so abusive in social media, a concern that I share. It is the fear that this abusive rudeness can spill into the real world with dangerous consequences.
Even on PB, which is largely an island of respectful if vigorous discourse (and puns, of course), we have been seeing an increase in the levels of personal abuse over recent months. It is the nature of the beast and the unfiltered way that people react to it. It is not good for us and @Cyclefree invites us all to agree on at least that. She is right.
I agree with this and agree with the question at the end of the header. Obviously. But I would add one point that @Cyclefree didn't make. Violence and threats against trans people who don't share @Cyclefree's view at all has risen sharply since this so called debate has kicked off. There's a lot more recorded violence against trans people than gay people generally. Most of it is not reported.
This violence is orders of magnitude more widespread than against those that activate against trans rights. Violence is never justified. Violence against one group doesn't justify the other. None of on this board would condone violence against trans people.
None of us would condone the people quoted by @Cyclefree either.
Morning all! Have banned the first (of many) cybernat off my Facebook page. Debate is one thing. Abuse is another. Seeya lad. I block and move on. You will always be that angry. Dear oh dear what must that be like...
You are fitting right into the typical unionist arsehole with your "cybernat" routine. Just another carpetbagger.
The Tories now resorting to some guff about a socialist state . The print media are overwhelmingly against Labour. The Times seems to print relentless anti Labour articles on its front page, it used to be a bit more fair with its coverage . It’s a wonder Labour are that far ahead given the right wing bias and constant daily attacks .
The Guardian, Mirror and Independent will back Labour. The Sun is rumoured to be ready to back Starmer as PM too having backed the Tories since Cameron, though it likely will also say positive things about Farage and Reform. The Express will likely back Reform. Only the Telegraph and Mail are still likely to back the Tories.
Though of course most now get their news online or on TV rather than print media
Ukraine will apparently receive this newly developed anti-drone turret, fitted to a Leopard 1 hull. If it's effective it could do a lot to help the success of an armoured assault.
Whilst good, it's still a tens-of-million-euros solution to a tens-of-hundreds-euros threat. What it needs is a man portable device to fire a cloud of shrapnel: a big shotgun, in other words. But this is me armchair generaling, so I'll shut up now...
Ukraine will apparently receive this newly developed anti-drone turret, fitted to a Leopard 1 hull. If it's effective it could do a lot to help the success of an armoured assault.
Whilst good, it's still a tens-of-million-euros solution to a tens-of-hundreds-euros threat. What it needs is a man portable device to fire a cloud of shrapnel: a big shotgun, in other words. But this is me armchair generaling, so I'll shut up now...
The Wiki article says that they're working on a laser version that will be cheaper.
Investment in UK has trailed other G7 countries since mid-1990s, IPPR says Institute for Public Policy Research urges Labour and Conservatives to reverse planned cuts https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/jun/18/investment-in-uk-has-trailed-other-g7-countries-since-mid-1990s-ippr-says Investment in the UK has trailed other G7 countries including the US and Germany since the mid-1990s, according to a report that urges Labour and the Conservatives to reverse planned cuts to investment or risk long-term damage to economic growth.
The Institute for Public Policy Research (IPPR) thinktank found the UK was bottom of the G7 league for investment in 24 out of the last 30 years, using figures from the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD)...
...The figures show the turning point was the period after the early 1990s recession, which was followed by a severe property crash and Black Wednesday, when Britain was forced to hurriedly exit from the EU’s exchange rate mechanism. Ever since, growth in private sector investment has tracked below all the G7 countries except in three of the 24 years...
What do Government cuts have to do with reversing the decline in private sector investment?
Investment in UK has trailed other G7 countries since mid-1990s, IPPR says Institute for Public Policy Research urges Labour and Conservatives to reverse planned cuts https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/jun/18/investment-in-uk-has-trailed-other-g7-countries-since-mid-1990s-ippr-says Investment in the UK has trailed other G7 countries including the US and Germany since the mid-1990s, according to a report that urges Labour and the Conservatives to reverse planned cuts to investment or risk long-term damage to economic growth.
The Institute for Public Policy Research (IPPR) thinktank found the UK was bottom of the G7 league for investment in 24 out of the last 30 years, using figures from the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD)...
...The figures show the turning point was the period after the early 1990s recession, which was followed by a severe property crash and Black Wednesday, when Britain was forced to hurriedly exit from the EU’s exchange rate mechanism. Ever since, growth in private sector investment has tracked below all the G7 countries except in three of the 24 years...
What do Government cuts have to do with reversing the decline in private sector investment?
First off, this thread died off some time ago. Second, your distinction between private sector and government investment (as opposed to spending) is a wholly artificial one, as far as growth is concerned.
Investment in UK has trailed other G7 countries since mid-1990s, IPPR says Institute for Public Policy Research urges Labour and Conservatives to reverse planned cuts https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/jun/18/investment-in-uk-has-trailed-other-g7-countries-since-mid-1990s-ippr-says Investment in the UK has trailed other G7 countries including the US and Germany since the mid-1990s, according to a report that urges Labour and the Conservatives to reverse planned cuts to investment or risk long-term damage to economic growth.
The Institute for Public Policy Research (IPPR) thinktank found the UK was bottom of the G7 league for investment in 24 out of the last 30 years, using figures from the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD)...
...The figures show the turning point was the period after the early 1990s recession, which was followed by a severe property crash and Black Wednesday, when Britain was forced to hurriedly exit from the EU’s exchange rate mechanism. Ever since, growth in private sector investment has tracked below all the G7 countries except in three of the 24 years...
What do Government cuts have to do with reversing the decline in private sector investment?
First off, this thread died off some time ago. Second, your distinction between private sector and government investment (as opposed to spending) is a wholly artificial one, as far as growth is concerned.
Thirdly, private sector and public sector investment are actually correlated.
In short, businesses invest in places which government is demonstrating commitment to.
Some of you bang on and on and on and Ukraine and the evil that is Putin. And how I am fucking appeaser and a putinist shill and yet - weirdly - I am the only one who has watched from my hotel balcony as he tried to drone me to death. And then sent a missile two days later which shook my whole block
Some of you bang on and on and on and Ukraine and the evil that is Putin. And how I am fucking appeaser and a putinist shill and yet - weirdly - I am the only one who has watched from my hotel balcony as he tried to drone me to death. And then sent a missile two days later which shook my whole block
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Pretty obvious that no-one would think Dementia is funny.
It is just another excuse for anti-trans commentary.
What would pass the 'credibility test' to you?
This violence is orders of magnitude more widespread than against those that activate against trans rights. Violence is never justified. Violence against one group doesn't justify the other. None of on this board would condone violence against trans people.
None of us would condone the people quoted by @Cyclefree either.
Though of course most now get their news online or on TV rather than print media
Second, your distinction between private sector and government investment (as opposed to spending) is a wholly artificial one, as far as growth is concerned.
In short, businesses invest in places which government is demonstrating commitment to.
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