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  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,189

    Just received a begogram from CCHQ demanding more money by 10pm tonight, because funding has dried up the last few days, or they'll have to pull the campaign in some seats.

    I can't say it's made me want to hit the 'DONATE' button.

    Would it be unkind to suggest that, given they are lacking 200 or so candidates, they can afford to pull the campaign in some seats?
    The negative publicity of not fielding a full slate might end up causing more problems than wasting money on an obvious lost cause.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,871
    Late afternoon all :)

    The Whitestone Insight data tables are worth a look - a higher proportion of DKs (16%) than other pollsters rising to 21% among female voters.

    Techne has DKs running at 11%, WNVs at 22% - YouGov has WNVs at 11% and Whitestone has just 5% WNVs.

    Something out of kilter here methinks - my immediate thought is Techne is closer to the mark with a turnout in the high 60s.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,758

    Omnium said:

    Omnium said:

    stodge said:

    Omnium said:

    Muesli said:

    FPT

    AlsoLei said:

    New We Think poll (30th and 31st May fieldwork)

    🔴 Lab 46% (-1)
    🔵 Con 21% (-1)
    ⚪ Ref 13% (+1)
    🟠 LD 8% (NC)
    🟢 Green 6% (NC)
    🟡 SNP 3% (NC)

    https://x.com/wethinkpolling/status/1796542301105233925

    Broken, sleazy Labour and Tories on the slide!
    No, it was Ed Davey on the slide.

    And he seemed to be having a lovely day out. I don't think Rishi or Keir would have managed that.
    And he's having another lovely day today, whilst talking about his free school meals policy:


    Sir Ed looks like the only one of the main party leaders who’s actually enjoying the campaign. I’ve not seen the photo of him on a slide but I’ll assume it’s not Mannionesque but in the same vein as the paddle boarding, the cycling and this school baking photo. Good. This election desperately needs some levity because it’s been duller than one any of Sean’s dribbling travelogues so far.
    I suspect Ed's target this year is to increase the number of seats obtained, exploit the local government base and improve local face recognition and I suspect he thinks he's meeting it, and so therefore is quite happy. The Swinson strategy is not the way forward here.
    The over-enthusiasm doesn't worry you?
    No, it only "bothers" those people who want a stick with which to beat Ed Davey.

    As I've said elsewhere, for the vast majority of voters, what they see of Ed Davey will be the extent of the LD campaigning in their seat. It's the 50-75 seats where there is serious local campaigning which matter to the party.

    As an aside, none of the parties is fighting a national campaign - my guess is the Conservatives and Labour are actively working 200 seats each, the LDs 50-75, the Greens 10, Reform 3-5. In East Ham for example, almost noting will happen - we will get a Labour leaflet but that's all.

    Anecdotally, I was handed ny first GE leaflet outside Mornington Crescent tube station by a campaigner for Andrew Feinstein who is standing as an Independent in the Holborn & St Pancras constituency.
    It makes me cringe, but fair enough.
    you have a high cringe bar, (or is it a low one?)
    I just want to like the LDs and I can't.
    we're used to it...
    And I'd respect that if the LDs stood for some great thing. They don't though. The LDs great talent over the last few years has been finding new wilderness to get lost in.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,886
    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Why is the King such a shit to his family?

    Prince Andrew, the King and the ‘siege of Royal Lodge’

    The King has told Prince Andrew that after the Epstein controversy there are to be no more royal duties and no more living at his vast house in Windsor Great Park. But in an increasingly bitter stand-off, his brother refuses to budge


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/prince-andrew-the-king-and-the-siege-of-royal-lodge-s9t63k7mw

    As Windsor Great Park is state owned and he is no longer doing royal duties that would justify him living in state funded accomodation like Royal Lodge.

    Conflating the RF with the State, I see.
    The head of it is literally Head of State
    Doesn't mean all those are his private property. Or the King's to dispose of.
    They are if the resident does no work for the state.

    Nobody is suggesting the King can bulldoze Royal Lodge, just move out the current tenant (and ideally put the Prince and Princess of Wales in instead)
  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,871

    Just received a begogram from CCHQ demanding more money by 10pm tonight, because funding has dried up the last few days, or they'll have to pull the campaign in some seats.

    I can't say it's made me want to hit the 'DONATE' button.

    Would it be unkind to suggest that, given they are lacking 200 or so candidates, they can afford to pull the campaign in some seats?
    Finding a paper candidate for an unwinnable seat like East Ham shouldn't be difficult. It's finding those where they might still have a chance which is difficult.

    I suspect the Conservatives are actively fighting 150-200 seats at most given paucity of human resources, not money. Labour are probably fighting 200-250 seats hard but both seats will move activists to other seats if needed.

    Noone is going to want to waste any time fighting a seat like East Ham.
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,189
    So Boris has decided to go in to bat for Trump

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-13480329/BORIS-JOHNSON-liberal-hit-job-political-Trump-victory-likely.html

    Rishi must be tearing his hair out.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,653
    ToryJim said:

    Just received a begogram from CCHQ demanding more money by 10pm tonight, because funding has dried up the last few days, or they'll have to pull the campaign in some seats.

    I can't say it's made me want to hit the 'DONATE' button.

    Would it be unkind to suggest that, given they are lacking 200 or so candidates, they can afford to pull the campaign in some seats?
    The negative publicity of not fielding a full slate might end up causing more problems than wasting money on an obvious lost cause.
    And it doesn't cost much to field a paper candidate.
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 3,883
    Omnium said:

    Omnium said:

    Omnium said:

    stodge said:

    Omnium said:

    Muesli said:

    FPT

    AlsoLei said:

    New We Think poll (30th and 31st May fieldwork)

    🔴 Lab 46% (-1)
    🔵 Con 21% (-1)
    ⚪ Ref 13% (+1)
    🟠 LD 8% (NC)
    🟢 Green 6% (NC)
    🟡 SNP 3% (NC)

    https://x.com/wethinkpolling/status/1796542301105233925

    Broken, sleazy Labour and Tories on the slide!
    No, it was Ed Davey on the slide.

    And he seemed to be having a lovely day out. I don't think Rishi or Keir would have managed that.
    And he's having another lovely day today, whilst talking about his free school meals policy:


    Sir Ed looks like the only one of the main party leaders who’s actually enjoying the campaign. I’ve not seen the photo of him on a slide but I’ll assume it’s not Mannionesque but in the same vein as the paddle boarding, the cycling and this school baking photo. Good. This election desperately needs some levity because it’s been duller than one any of Sean’s dribbling travelogues so far.
    I suspect Ed's target this year is to increase the number of seats obtained, exploit the local government base and improve local face recognition and I suspect he thinks he's meeting it, and so therefore is quite happy. The Swinson strategy is not the way forward here.
    The over-enthusiasm doesn't worry you?
    No, it only "bothers" those people who want a stick with which to beat Ed Davey.

    As I've said elsewhere, for the vast majority of voters, what they see of Ed Davey will be the extent of the LD campaigning in their seat. It's the 50-75 seats where there is serious local campaigning which matter to the party.

    As an aside, none of the parties is fighting a national campaign - my guess is the Conservatives and Labour are actively working 200 seats each, the LDs 50-75, the Greens 10, Reform 3-5. In East Ham for example, almost noting will happen - we will get a Labour leaflet but that's all.

    Anecdotally, I was handed ny first GE leaflet outside Mornington Crescent tube station by a campaigner for Andrew Feinstein who is standing as an Independent in the Holborn & St Pancras constituency.
    It makes me cringe, but fair enough.
    you have a high cringe bar, (or is it a low one?)
    I just want to like the LDs and I can't.
    we're used to it...
    And I'd respect that if the LDs stood for some great thing. They don't though. The LDs great talent over the last few years has been finding new wilderness to get lost in.
    cheer up...
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,027
    Farooq said:

    boulay said:

    Rather than gesture politics, the way to solve fly tipping is to make it easier to do the right thing than the wrong thing. That means making it free/very cheap to dispose of building waste.

    So if a company who charge to dispose of waste gets a completely free service from the council and that cost has to be covered by tax payers is that ok?

    You don’t get your bins emptied for free, it’s covered by the council tax but you aren’t charging your neighbours to put their rubbish in your bin so it’s fair.

    Even if they do reduce the costs people will still fly tip because they are inconsiderate lazy fuckers - you just have to see the general British attitude to littering - and so an extra stick is useful and points off driving licences is actually something that’s going to affect someone who has to drive for a living to dump rubbish in woodlands.
    Fly tipping started in massive amounts when austerity began. A coincidence? Absolutely not.

    Yes disposing of waste should be free.
    Why when it is the local authorities responsibility and they have no money

    Because it's nicer than having rubbish piled up in the layby and it's cheaper than monitoring and investigating flytipping enough to deter people from doing it.
    You have a choice

    Either the Local Authorities pays, Westminster pays, or the consumer

  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,656
    Meanwhile in real voters news

    Kingstanding (Birmingham) Council By-Election Result:

    🌳 CON: 47.9% (+4.7)
    🌹 LAB: 39.3% (-6.1)
    🔶 LDM: 4.7% (-0.0)
    🌍 GRN: 4.2% (-0.0)
    ⚙️ WPB: 2.7% (New)
    👨‍🔧 TUSC: 1.2% (-0.5)

    No WM (-0.6) as previous.

    Conservative HOLD.
    Changes w/ 2022.

    5.4% swing LAB to CON
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,653
    stodge said:

    Just received a begogram from CCHQ demanding more money by 10pm tonight, because funding has dried up the last few days, or they'll have to pull the campaign in some seats.

    I can't say it's made me want to hit the 'DONATE' button.

    Would it be unkind to suggest that, given they are lacking 200 or so candidates, they can afford to pull the campaign in some seats?
    Finding a paper candidate for an unwinnable seat like East Ham shouldn't be difficult. It's finding those where they might still have a chance which is difficult.

    I suspect the Conservatives are actively fighting 150-200 seats at most given paucity of human resources, not money. Labour are probably fighting 200-250 seats hard but both seats will move activists to other seats if needed.

    Noone is going to want to waste any time fighting a seat like East Ham.
    Interesting to ponder what the Tories will do in my seat North Dorset. One of they're top 20 safe seats but Labour seem not to be bothering and the LDs will go hard. I think the Tories will have to put some effort in here.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,407

    Meanwhile in real voters news

    Kingstanding (Birmingham) Council By-Election Result:

    🌳 CON: 47.9% (+4.7)
    🌹 LAB: 39.3% (-6.1)
    🔶 LDM: 4.7% (-0.0)
    🌍 GRN: 4.2% (-0.0)
    ⚙️ WPB: 2.7% (New)
    👨‍🔧 TUSC: 1.2% (-0.5)

    No WM (-0.6) as previous.

    Conservative HOLD.
    Changes w/ 2022.

    5.4% swing LAB to CON

    Very nice.

    We're still going to get our arses handed to us on a plate.
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    ToryJim said:

    So Boris has decided to go in to bat for Trump

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-13480329/BORIS-JOHNSON-liberal-hit-job-political-Trump-victory-likely.html

    Rishi must be tearing his hair out.

    The Sage of Santo Domingo Speaks!
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,602
    Farooq said:

    ToryJim said:

    So Boris has decided to go in to bat for Trump

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-13480329/BORIS-JOHNSON-liberal-hit-job-political-Trump-victory-likely.html

    Rishi must be tearing his hair out.

    It's nearly daily now with senior Tories genuflecting before Trump.
    This is why they need to lose and lose badly. We really don't want that shit here.
    Labour have said they'll find "common cause" with Trump.
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,375
    ToryJim said:

    So Boris has decided to go in to bat for Trump

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-13480329/BORIS-JOHNSON-liberal-hit-job-political-Trump-victory-likely.html

    Rishi must be tearing his hair out.

    Whose hair? Boris's, or his own?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,027
    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    boulay said:

    Rather than gesture politics, the way to solve fly tipping is to make it easier to do the right thing than the wrong thing. That means making it free/very cheap to dispose of building waste.

    So if a company who charge to dispose of waste gets a completely free service from the council and that cost has to be covered by tax payers is that ok?

    You don’t get your bins emptied for free, it’s covered by the council tax but you aren’t charging your neighbours to put their rubbish in your bin so it’s fair.

    Even if they do reduce the costs people will still fly tip because they are inconsiderate lazy fuckers - you just have to see the general British attitude to littering - and so an extra stick is useful and points off driving licences is actually something that’s going to affect someone who has to drive for a living to dump rubbish in woodlands.
    Fly tipping started in massive amounts when austerity began. A coincidence? Absolutely not.

    Yes disposing of waste should be free.
    Why when it is the local authorities responsibility and they have no money

    Because it's nicer than having rubbish piled up in the layby and it's cheaper than monitoring and investigating flytipping enough to deter people from doing it.
    You have a choice

    Either the Local Authorities pays, Westminster pays, or the consumer

    Is there that big a difference between the first two? It's either taxpayer or producer.
    Taxpayers are over taxed according to all the politicians and this is the dishonesty in our politics when taxes will have to rise or more of the above will happen
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,656
    In PFI Election News

    SKS confirms GB Energy isn’t an energy company but an investment arm for private sector & will not:

    1) produce energy

    2) sell energy

    3) own any energy infrastructure

    And no explanation as to how it reduces bills.

    Green Party policy is to renationalise Energy
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,656
    Not a single mainstream journalist has asked how ‘Great British Energy’ will reduce bills for the consumer.

    It wont unless I am missing something
  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,871

    Farooq said:

    ToryJim said:

    So Boris has decided to go in to bat for Trump

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-13480329/BORIS-JOHNSON-liberal-hit-job-political-Trump-victory-likely.html

    Rishi must be tearing his hair out.

    It's nearly daily now with senior Tories genuflecting before Trump.
    This is why they need to lose and lose badly. We really don't want that shit here.
    Labour have said they'll find "common cause" with Trump.
    It's more a question of realpolitik - if Trump wins (and assuming Starmer does) there will need to be some form of Anglo-American relationship and while that might be difficult at some levels, there will be a pragmatism at work which will ensure it's civil if not cordial.

    The other thing we don't know is who would be in a Trump 2025-29 administration - I can't imagine many of those who served from 2017-21 wanting a second go so who would be, for example, the likely SoS?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,407
    stodge said:

    Just received a begogram from CCHQ demanding more money by 10pm tonight, because funding has dried up the last few days, or they'll have to pull the campaign in some seats.

    I can't say it's made me want to hit the 'DONATE' button.

    Would it be unkind to suggest that, given they are lacking 200 or so candidates, they can afford to pull the campaign in some seats?
    Finding a paper candidate for an unwinnable seat like East Ham shouldn't be difficult. It's finding those where they might still have a chance which is difficult.

    I suspect the Conservatives are actively fighting 150-200 seats at most given paucity of human resources, not money. Labour are probably fighting 200-250 seats hard but both seats will move activists to other seats if needed.

    Noone is going to want to waste any time fighting a seat like East Ham.
    My sense is the Conservatives are actively fighting 150-200, yes.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,814

    Meanwhile in real voters news

    Kingstanding (Birmingham) Council By-Election Result:

    🌳 CON: 47.9% (+4.7)
    🌹 LAB: 39.3% (-6.1)
    🔶 LDM: 4.7% (-0.0)
    🌍 GRN: 4.2% (-0.0)
    ⚙️ WPB: 2.7% (New)
    👨‍🔧 TUSC: 1.2% (-0.5)

    No WM (-0.6) as previous.

    Conservative HOLD.
    Changes w/ 2022.

    5.4% swing LAB to CON

    Another lost deposit for the Green Tories.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,354
    Farooq said:

    ToryJim said:

    So Boris has decided to go in to bat for Trump

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-13480329/BORIS-JOHNSON-liberal-hit-job-political-Trump-victory-likely.html

    Rishi must be tearing his hair out.

    It's nearly daily now with senior Tories genuflecting before Trump.
    This is why they need to lose and lose badly. We really don't want that shit here.
    I think this is what Casino Royale calls "social proof". It's a badge of honour among a large portion of the British Right to support Trump as proof that they are an independent free-thinker, not shackled to the left-wing consensus that is hobbling Britain.

    But it's actually a sign of brain rot due to spending too much time in the social media echo chamber.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,886
    edited May 31
    Farooq said:

    ToryJim said:

    So Boris has decided to go in to bat for Trump

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-13480329/BORIS-JOHNSON-liberal-hit-job-political-Trump-victory-likely.html

    Rishi must be tearing his hair out.

    It's nearly daily now with senior Tories genuflecting before Trump.
    This is why they need to lose and lose badly. We really don't want that shit here.
    Except the reverse might happen.

    If Rishi and Hunt lead the Tories to landslide defeat, Boris can say 'told you so' and if a new Tory Opposition leader proves a dud come back to 'save' the Conservatives in Opposition and take advantage of any Starmer government unpopularity.

    After all if Trump does manage to beat Biden in a rematch after Biden beat him in 2020, Boris will think why can't he have another go at Starmer too now Rishi flopped against him?

    If Rishi wins and Biden is re elected however, that would kill off any talk of a Boris comeback and finish Trump too
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,375

    Not a single mainstream journalist has asked how ‘Great British Energy’ will reduce bills for the consumer.

    It wont unless I am missing something

    You are. An apostrophe.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,656
    Farooq said:

    ToryJim said:

    So Boris has decided to go in to bat for Trump

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-13480329/BORIS-JOHNSON-liberal-hit-job-political-Trump-victory-likely.html

    Rishi must be tearing his hair out.

    It's nearly daily now with senior Tories genuflecting before Trump.
    This is why they need to lose and lose badly. We really don't want that shit here.
    David Lammy spent 2 days last week doing the same

    Presumably he is a Senior Tory?
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 17,214
    Here's where Labour think the battlefield is...

    I had a look at where Labour is sending activists from its “how to help” webpage. I found 256 constituencies where activists are being directed - seats Labour thinks are in play. They include all but one seat in Scotland so from here I am referring to England and Wales only.

    https://twitter.com/OwenWntr/status/1796497107366642057

    On the whole, the seats chosen are very bullish. They include 174 Conservative seats from 2019 (notional). That is every Conservative seat with a majority under 28% and over half of seats with a majority up to 32%...

    But there are some seats suggesting serious weakness. Here are those with the largest notional Labour majorities:

    1. Birmingham Ladywood (73%)
    2. Bethnal Green & Stepney (63%)
    3. Bradford West (61%)
    4. Birmingham Perry Barr (48%)
    5. Leicester South (46%)
    6. Blackburn (3%)
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 13,677
    stodge said:

    Farooq said:

    ToryJim said:

    So Boris has decided to go in to bat for Trump

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-13480329/BORIS-JOHNSON-liberal-hit-job-political-Trump-victory-likely.html

    Rishi must be tearing his hair out.

    It's nearly daily now with senior Tories genuflecting before Trump.
    This is why they need to lose and lose badly. We really don't want that shit here.
    Labour have said they'll find "common cause" with Trump.
    It's more a question of realpolitik - if Trump wins (and assuming Starmer does) there will need to be some form of Anglo-American relationship and while that might be difficult at some levels, there will be a pragmatism at work which will ensure it's civil if not cordial.

    The other thing we don't know is who would be in a Trump 2025-29 administration - I can't imagine many of those who served from 2017-21 wanting a second go so who would be, for example, the likely SoS?
    A corporate type with cur like loyalty to DJT. Maybe Ramaswamy or Robert Bigelow.
  • mwadamsmwadams Posts: 3,588

    Farooq said:

    ToryJim said:

    So Boris has decided to go in to bat for Trump

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-13480329/BORIS-JOHNSON-liberal-hit-job-political-Trump-victory-likely.html

    Rishi must be tearing his hair out.

    It's nearly daily now with senior Tories genuflecting before Trump.
    This is why they need to lose and lose badly. We really don't want that shit here.
    David Lammy spent 2 days last week doing the same

    Presumably he is a Senior Tory?
    He is David Lammy which is a set containing 1 member.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,212

    Not a single mainstream journalist has asked how ‘Great British Energy’ will reduce bills for the consumer.

    It wont unless I am missing something

    You are. An apostrophe.
    Indeed. Puts on black cap. "You have been found guilty...."
  • pingping Posts: 3,805
    edited May 31
    Forgive me, I'm out of the loop. The most notable sentence in Johnson's piece looks to me to be;

    "On the most important geo-strategic issue of our time, the freedom of Ukraine, he has the energy and coherence to ensure we get the right answer: the defeat of Putin, and a clear message to the world, especially China, that aggression does not pay."

    Last I heard, Both Trump and the GOP were pretty uncomplicatedly aping Mearsheimer vis-a-vis Ukraine.

    Is this projection from Boris, or has Trump turned?
  • kjhkjh Posts: 11,782

    Just received a begogram from CCHQ demanding more money by 10pm tonight, because funding has dried up the last few days, or they'll have to pull the campaign in some seats.

    I can't say it's made me want to hit the 'DONATE' button.

    It is difficult to know which strategy to go for isn't. I'm like you, I am more motivated by the positive message. You know, it is all going great, but we could really do with a bit more money to do just that little bit extra, but for others it is the we are desperate message that works.

    Whatever it is all bollocks anyway. Just playing on your emotions to get you to cough up. The LDs are currently using the we just need this to do this bit extra and we have a donor who will match your contributions if we can raise £100,000 by whenever.
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,375

    Here's where Labour think the battlefield is...

    I had a look at where Labour is sending activists from its “how to help” webpage. I found 256 constituencies where activists are being directed - seats Labour thinks are in play. They include all but one seat in Scotland so from here I am referring to England and Wales only.

    https://twitter.com/OwenWntr/status/1796497107366642057

    On the whole, the seats chosen are very bullish. They include 174 Conservative seats from 2019 (notional). That is every Conservative seat with a majority under 28% and over half of seats with a majority up to 32%...

    But there are some seats suggesting serious weakness. Here are those with the largest notional Labour majorities:

    1. Birmingham Ladywood (73%)
    2. Bethnal Green & Stepney (63%)
    3. Bradford West (61%)
    4. Birmingham Perry Barr (48%)
    5. Leicester South (46%)
    6. Blackburn (3%)

    Well, it's not hard to see what those six seats have in common. There will be efforts to publicise Labour's more balanced line on Gaza through the rest of the campaign. Whether that will be enough, I don't know.
    It would be interesting to know how many of those six seats Galloway's mob are standing in.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 6,813
    ping said:

    Forgive me, I'm out of the loop. The most notable sentence in Johnson's piece looks to me to be;

    "On the most important geo-strategic issue of our time, the freedom of Ukraine, he has the energy and coherence to ensure we get the right answer: the defeat of Putin, and a clear message to the world, especially China, that aggression does not pay."

    Last I heard, Both Trump and the GOP were pretty uncomplicatedly aping Mearsheimer vis-a-vis Ukraine.

    Is this projection from Boris, or has Trump turned?

    There have been suggestions that he may have started to realise the gravity of the situation in Ukraine. However, this is Trump and so would not like to rely on that.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,407

    Here's where Labour think the battlefield is...

    I had a look at where Labour is sending activists from its “how to help” webpage. I found 256 constituencies where activists are being directed - seats Labour thinks are in play. They include all but one seat in Scotland so from here I am referring to England and Wales only.

    https://twitter.com/OwenWntr/status/1796497107366642057

    On the whole, the seats chosen are very bullish. They include 174 Conservative seats from 2019 (notional). That is every Conservative seat with a majority under 28% and over half of seats with a majority up to 32%...

    But there are some seats suggesting serious weakness. Here are those with the largest notional Labour majorities:

    1. Birmingham Ladywood (73%)
    2. Bethnal Green & Stepney (63%)
    3. Bradford West (61%)
    4. Birmingham Perry Barr (48%)
    5. Leicester South (46%)
    6. Blackburn (3%)

    My take on that is that betting on Labour in Scotland could be value, even in seats where they are nominally in 3rd place.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,063
    So they have to get 200 candidates in a week. Fuuuuuck.
  • A Tory candidate for Putney came round for a chat.

    I asked him why his flyer was green and if this was a bit misleading. He said it wasn't.

    He said would I be voting Conservative. I said, is Rishi Sunak still your leader. He said he was.

    I said therefore, no I won't be. He left.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,174

    Here's where Labour think the battlefield is...

    I had a look at where Labour is sending activists from its “how to help” webpage. I found 256 constituencies where activists are being directed - seats Labour thinks are in play. They include all but one seat in Scotland so from here I am referring to England and Wales only.

    https://twitter.com/OwenWntr/status/1796497107366642057

    On the whole, the seats chosen are very bullish. They include 174 Conservative seats from 2019 (notional). That is every Conservative seat with a majority under 28% and over half of seats with a majority up to 32%...

    But there are some seats suggesting serious weakness. Here are those with the largest notional Labour majorities:

    1. Birmingham Ladywood (73%)
    2. Bethnal Green & Stepney (63%)
    3. Bradford West (61%)
    4. Birmingham Perry Barr (48%)
    5. Leicester South (46%)
    6. Blackburn (3%)

    My take on that is that betting on Labour in Scotland could be value, even in seats where they are nominally in 3rd place.
    I've backed Labour in Aberdeen North.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,814

    Fuck it, I'm watching Aliens again.

    "Hey, top! What's the op?"
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,189

    Farooq said:

    ToryJim said:

    So Boris has decided to go in to bat for Trump

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-13480329/BORIS-JOHNSON-liberal-hit-job-political-Trump-victory-likely.html

    Rishi must be tearing his hair out.

    It's nearly daily now with senior Tories genuflecting before Trump.
    This is why they need to lose and lose badly. We really don't want that shit here.
    I think this is what Casino Royale calls "social proof". It's a badge of honour among a large portion of the British Right to support Trump as proof that they are an independent free-thinker, not shackled to the left-wing consensus that is hobbling Britain.

    But it's actually a sign of brain rot due to spending too much time in the social media echo chamber.
    Brain rot is the thing, they aren’t thinking they are just playing a version of opposite association whereby if the left says up they have to say down. It’s just the most insane way of approaching how to position yourself. They take critical scepticism and turn it into a form of gullible credulity whereby they believe any old shit to “own” their opponents.
  • Doogle1941Doogle1941 Posts: 22
    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    ToryJim said:

    So Boris has decided to go in to bat for Trump

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-13480329/BORIS-JOHNSON-liberal-hit-job-political-Trump-victory-likely.html

    Rishi must be tearing his hair out.

    It's nearly daily now with senior Tories genuflecting before Trump.
    This is why they need to lose and lose badly. We really don't want that shit here.
    David Lammy spent 2 days last week doing the same

    Presumably he is a Senior Tory?
    Everyone to the right of Mao is a Tory though, eh, comrade?
    Whether you like Trump or not, why not look at the bigger picture. For years since 2016 the u.s. administrative state have been trying to take down Trump, e.g. the 'Russian collusion' play by hrc. Why not ask yourself what are they so afraid of. Trump is a political outsider so in what circumstances could you imagine that Trump is a threat to the status quo such that his enemies behave so irrationally ? (hint: their corruption)
  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,871

    Here's where Labour think the battlefield is...

    I had a look at where Labour is sending activists from its “how to help” webpage. I found 256 constituencies where activists are being directed - seats Labour thinks are in play. They include all but one seat in Scotland so from here I am referring to England and Wales only.

    https://twitter.com/OwenWntr/status/1796497107366642057

    On the whole, the seats chosen are very bullish. They include 174 Conservative seats from 2019 (notional). That is every Conservative seat with a majority under 28% and over half of seats with a majority up to 32%...

    But there are some seats suggesting serious weakness. Here are those with the largest notional Labour majorities:

    1. Birmingham Ladywood (73%)
    2. Bethnal Green & Stepney (63%)
    3. Bradford West (61%)
    4. Birmingham Perry Barr (48%)
    5. Leicester South (46%)
    6. Blackburn (3%)

    Well, yes and I think we know why.

    In my neck of the woods, West Ham & Beckton may be a lot closer and it's clear the Newham Independents are going to be working the seat and especially the strongly Muslim Wards. East Ham is a more strongly Hindu area so much less concern. Stratford & Bow is another fascinating contest - two local by elections, Muslim areas and a growing Green presence.

    One Uma Kumaran is the Labour candidate. Stratford is a strong Green area while the Workers Party will be targeting the Muslim vote at the Bow end and we have the by elections in Maryland and Forest Gate North to add a bit of interest.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,354

    ping said:

    Forgive me, I'm out of the loop. The most notable sentence in Johnson's piece looks to me to be;

    "On the most important geo-strategic issue of our time, the freedom of Ukraine, he has the energy and coherence to ensure we get the right answer: the defeat of Putin, and a clear message to the world, especially China, that aggression does not pay."

    Last I heard, Both Trump and the GOP were pretty uncomplicatedly aping Mearsheimer vis-a-vis Ukraine.

    Is this projection from Boris, or has Trump turned?

    There have been suggestions that he may have started to realise the gravity of the situation in Ukraine. However, this is Trump and so would not like to rely on that.
    Trump only does something if it has a benefit for Trump, so we discount any explanation that involves him giving a shit about the situation in Ukraine.

    It might be that someone he is willing to listen to has convinced him that Biden is vulnerable to the charge of failing Ukraine and not supporting Ukraine strongly enough to achieve victory.

    But we also shouldn't confuse stuff that Trump says with what he ends up doing.
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,051
    viewcode said:

    So they have to get 200 candidates in a week. Fuuuuuck.

    At this point they better hope they won’t get a surprise 260 seats, because god knows who they’d be saddled with in the 260th.
  • fencesitter2fencesitter2 Posts: 48
    With regard to tactical voting, I've been looking at the Bicester and Woodstock constituency. The Britain Elects model predicts
    LD 35.1% + 8.5
    Con 32.6% - 21.3
    Lab 18.8% + 1.9
    Ref 8.1% + 7.8
    Grn 5.5% + 3.1
    +/- with 2019 (must with notional voteshares since its a new constituency)
    So any anti-Con tactical voters who look at that will vote LD.

    But if they look at Electoral Calculus, they'll see
    LAB 31.3%
    CON 27.9%
    LD 24.3%
    Ref 11.0%
    Grn 4.6%
    In which case they will vote Lab.

    Two questions for the PB brains trust:
    1. Given that they are based on very similar national vote shares, how come these predictions are so different?
    2. Which is more likely to be right?

    I'm sure there must be a number of seats where tactical voting won't be clear-cut, and hence the effect of it on overall seat-counts may not be as great as might be expected.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,656
    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    ToryJim said:

    So Boris has decided to go in to bat for Trump

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-13480329/BORIS-JOHNSON-liberal-hit-job-political-Trump-victory-likely.html

    Rishi must be tearing his hair out.

    It's nearly daily now with senior Tories genuflecting before Trump.
    This is why they need to lose and lose badly. We really don't want that shit here.
    David Lammy spent 2 days last week doing the same

    Presumably he is a Senior Tory?
    Everyone to the right of Mao is a Tory though, eh, comrade?
    I like to categorize people to the right of Thatcher and those that self proclaim that they are Tories, as Tories

    There are plenty of people to the right of Mao that aren't Tories. Corbyn Abbott Rayner for example

    SKS would prefer them all to not be Candidates to be replaced by Israel Lobbyist Tories.

    Whats your definition Comrade wears a nice red rosette?
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,758

    A Tory candidate for Putney came round for a chat.

    I asked him why his flyer was green and if this was a bit misleading. He said it wasn't.

    He said would I be voting Conservative. I said, is Rishi Sunak still your leader. He said he was.

    I said therefore, no I won't be. He left.

    Many, many years ago I entered into a doorstep conversation with a candidate from the Natural Law party (They were top end nutters).
    I found it hard to get rid of them. Somehow it was coffee and biscuits.

    I did though get a copy of one of the most wonderful (in a bad way) documents that's ever been published - their manifesto.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,653

    With regard to tactical voting, I've been looking at the Bicester and Woodstock constituency. The Britain Elects model predicts
    LD 35.1% + 8.5
    Con 32.6% - 21.3
    Lab 18.8% + 1.9
    Ref 8.1% + 7.8
    Grn 5.5% + 3.1
    +/- with 2019 (must with notional voteshares since its a new constituency)
    So any anti-Con tactical voters who look at that will vote LD.

    But if they look at Electoral Calculus, they'll see
    LAB 31.3%
    CON 27.9%
    LD 24.3%
    Ref 11.0%
    Grn 4.6%
    In which case they will vote Lab.

    Two questions for the PB brains trust:
    1. Given that they are based on very similar national vote shares, how come these predictions are so different?
    2. Which is more likely to be right?

    I'm sure there must be a number of seats where tactical voting won't be clear-cut, and hence the effect of it on overall seat-counts may not be as great as might be expected.

    Tactical Voting says LDs are the choice for non-Tories in Bicester:

    https://tactical.vote/bicester-and-woodstock/
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,051
    Oh God. Biden. The state of him in this speech. And he’s our only hope of no Trump. I know I am saying nothing new here but, Christ….
  • Alphabet_SoupAlphabet_Soup Posts: 3,243
    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Carnyx said:

    HYUFD said:

    Why is the King such a shit to his family?

    Prince Andrew, the King and the ‘siege of Royal Lodge’

    The King has told Prince Andrew that after the Epstein controversy there are to be no more royal duties and no more living at his vast house in Windsor Great Park. But in an increasingly bitter stand-off, his brother refuses to budge


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/prince-andrew-the-king-and-the-siege-of-royal-lodge-s9t63k7mw

    As Windsor Great Park is state owned and he is no longer doing royal duties that would justify him living in state funded accomodation like Royal Lodge.

    Conflating the RF with the State, I see.
    The head of it is literally Head of State
    Doesn't mean all those are his private property. Or the King's to dispose of.
    As a Freeholder I do sometimes worry about the small print.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,127
    Those less likely and more likely voters... they're lying. They had already made up their minds.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,407

    Fuck it, I'm watching Aliens again.

    "Hey, top! What's the op?"
    Knock it off, Sunil!
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,656
    Question for SKS fans.

    Why did he use a private jet to launch his Green Energy Policy in Scotland?

    I get he is not safe on Public transport but surely he could have cycled there
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,656
    Question for SKS fans.

    Why did he use a private jet to launch his Green Energy Policy in Scotland?

    I get he is not safe on Public transport but surely he could have cycled there
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,522

    With regard to tactical voting, I've been looking at the Bicester and Woodstock constituency. The Britain Elects model predicts
    LD 35.1% + 8.5
    Con 32.6% - 21.3
    Lab 18.8% + 1.9
    Ref 8.1% + 7.8
    Grn 5.5% + 3.1
    +/- with 2019 (must with notional voteshares since its a new constituency)
    So any anti-Con tactical voters who look at that will vote LD.

    But if they look at Electoral Calculus, they'll see
    LAB 31.3%
    CON 27.9%
    LD 24.3%
    Ref 11.0%
    Grn 4.6%
    In which case they will vote Lab.

    Two questions for the PB brains trust:
    1. Given that they are based on very similar national vote shares, how come these predictions are so different?
    2. Which is more likely to be right?

    I'm sure there must be a number of seats where tactical voting won't be clear-cut, and hence the effect of it on overall seat-counts may not be as great as might be expected.

    Tactical Voting says LDs are the choice for non-Tories in Bicester:

    https://tactical.vote/bicester-and-woodstock/
    The difficulty, as in other seats like Didcot and Wantage, is in allowing for the large national increase in Lab vote and standstill or slight decline in LD vote since 2019. Electoral Calculus assumes that these changes are largely repeated locally, whereas Britain Elects and Tactical Voting assume that Labour voters wll resignedly vote LD tactically. My impression is that tactical voting is more limited this time and voters will largely indicate their natural preference. which will limit LD gains and in some cases, like Bicester, produce Labour gains from third place. We're certainly campaigning in Didcot and Wantage on the assuimption that the seat is winnable for Labour, and think it's quite unlikelyto be winnable by the LibDems.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,773
    Cookie said:

    Not really a politics post, but I'm going to use my quota.

    You don't really go to the Yorkshire Dales much when you grow up in Greater Manchester. They're not far away, but the Lake District is easier to get to - and what can compete with that? - and the Peak District is closer still. So I've managed to go 49 years before today finally getting around to seeing Malham Cove. (I took the daughters as a half-term activity to get them off screens, but really it was for me.)
    There's a long circular walk you can do. Along the stream and through the wood to Janet's Foss (named after the fairy who dwells behind the waterfall - apparently Janet is a not uncommon name for fairies in the North); up the frankly astonishing Gordale Scar (which was unascendable - the path that climbs up beside the waterfall also being a waterfall); back and up onto the plateau, and among big skies and rockscapes and distant misty views to Malham Tarn, then back to the limestone pavement above Malham Cove and down to the Cove itself. It's hard to say exactly why a cliff should be astonishing, but it's astonishing. It's like a cathedral. I couldn't stop looking at it. I could have looked at it all day. It glows. One of the wonders of the North. Definite noom.


    Happy to report this was all achieved without disproportionate whingeing.

    Ooh, I know, to bring in a politics angle, I saw a Vote Labour flag in Malham(!), a Lib Dem flag and a Palestinian flag in Airton, and an utterly baffling protest on Junction 27 of the M60 in Stockport where for complicated reasons I went through on my way home - it appeared to encompass anti-vaxxery ("tell us your stories about how the vaccine has harmed YOU!" - rather suggests they're scrabbling around a bit for the bones of their conspiracy theory), opposition to Net Zero, and "Peace not Bombs" - though it wasn't clear in what context this was.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,174
    edited May 31
    @Cookie - I visited Malham for the first time in 2022 - absolutely stunning (once I'd navigated my way past the bulls...)

    On another matter, Borussia Dortmund have lost the floating voter:

    https://x.com/GaryLineker/status/1796558643313438954

    @GaryLineker
    First time I’ll be cheering for @realmadriden in a Champions League final. 🙄

    Borussia Dortmund have signed a three-year sponsorship agreement with weapons manufacturer Rheinmetall.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,643

    Question for SKS fans.

    Why did he use a private jet to launch his Green Energy Policy in Scotland?

    I get he is not safe on Public transport but surely he could have cycled there

    Probably because he wanted to activate his critics to highlight his energy policy. Just like this week his critics have helpfully highlighted his distance from left wingers.

    Modern politics I’m afraid.

  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,773
    tlg86 said:

    @Cookie - I visited Malham for the first time in 2022 - absolutely stunning (once I'd navigated my way past the bulls...)

    On another matter, Borussia Dortmund have lost the floating voter:

    https://x.com/GaryLineker/status/1796558643313438954

    @GaryLineker
    First time I’ll be cheering for @realmadriden in a Champions League final. 🙄

    Borussia Dortmund have signed a three-year sponsorship agreement with weapons manufacturer Rheinmetall.

    It's all quite difficult to follow, but ISTR Rheinmetall are supplying Putin, yes? So Lineker manages to be on the right side of this argument, though doesn't really make clear why. I think.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,174

    With regard to tactical voting, I've been looking at the Bicester and Woodstock constituency. The Britain Elects model predicts
    LD 35.1% + 8.5
    Con 32.6% - 21.3
    Lab 18.8% + 1.9
    Ref 8.1% + 7.8
    Grn 5.5% + 3.1
    +/- with 2019 (must with notional voteshares since its a new constituency)
    So any anti-Con tactical voters who look at that will vote LD.

    But if they look at Electoral Calculus, they'll see
    LAB 31.3%
    CON 27.9%
    LD 24.3%
    Ref 11.0%
    Grn 4.6%
    In which case they will vote Lab.

    Two questions for the PB brains trust:
    1. Given that they are based on very similar national vote shares, how come these predictions are so different?
    2. Which is more likely to be right?

    I'm sure there must be a number of seats where tactical voting won't be clear-cut, and hence the effect of it on overall seat-counts may not be as great as might be expected.

    Tactical Voting says LDs are the choice for non-Tories in Bicester:

    https://tactical.vote/bicester-and-woodstock/
    I wonder how many people will look at that website? Corbyn 2019 coupled with that website could save a few Tories.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,697

    gabyhinsliff
    @gabyhinsliff
    ·
    1h
    some substantial labour candidates this time but @torstenbell
    is going to be a properly interesting MP - @resolutionfoundation research has consistently moved the needle in recent years & he knows how Whitewall works

    https://x.com/gabyhinsliff/status/1796584375838204105
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,275

    Fuck it, I'm watching Aliens again.

    One of my all time favourites . Can’t believe it’s nearly 40 years old .
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,239
    Cookie said:

    Not really a politics post, but I'm going to use my quota.

    You don't really go to the Yorkshire Dales much when you grow up in Greater Manchester. They're not far away, but the Lake District is easier to get to - and what can compete with that? - and the Peak District is closer still. So I've managed to go 49 years before today finally getting around to seeing Malham Cove. (I took the daughters as a half-term activity to get them off screens, but really it was for me.)
    There's a long circular walk you can do. Along the stream and through the wood to Janet's Foss (named after the fairy who dwells behind the waterfall - apparently Janet is a not uncommon name for fairies in the North); up the frankly astonishing Gordale Scar (which was unascendable - the path that climbs up beside the waterfall also being a waterfall); back and up onto the plateau, and among big skies and rockscapes and distant misty views to Malham Tarn, then back to the limestone pavement above Malham Cove and down to the Cove itself. It's hard to say exactly why a cliff should be astonishing, but it's astonishing. It's like a cathedral. I couldn't stop looking at it. I could have looked at it all day. It glows. One of the wonders of the North. Definite noom.


    Happy to report this was all achieved without disproportionate whingeing.

    That does look quite noomy! Britain is lucky with noom

    I’ve felt a bit of noom here in Moldova but TBH not much. I expected more - not sure why

    I’m hoping for Good Noom in Transnistria tomorrow
  • Doogle1941Doogle1941 Posts: 22
    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    ToryJim said:

    So Boris has decided to go in to bat for Trump

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-13480329/BORIS-JOHNSON-liberal-hit-job-political-Trump-victory-likely.html

    Rishi must be tearing his hair out.

    It's nearly daily now with senior Tories genuflecting before Trump.
    This is why they need to lose and lose badly. We really don't want that shit here.
    David Lammy spent 2 days last week doing the same

    Presumably he is a Senior Tory?
    Everyone to the right of Mao is a Tory though, eh, comrade?
    Whether you like Trump or not, why not look at the bigger picture. For years since 2016 the u.s. administrative state have been trying to take down Trump, e.g. the 'Russian collusion' play by hrc. Why not ask yourself what are they so afraid of. Trump is a political outsider so in what circumstances could you imagine that Trump is a threat to the status quo such that his enemies behave so irrationally ? (hint: their corruption)
    "Why not ask yourself what they're so afraid of?"

    I agree. Once you set aside the lies, the chaos, the sexual assault, the anti-science agenda, the control over women's bodies, the fraud, the disastrous Covid response, the destabilising of geopolitical allies, the pandering to dictators, the backchannelling, nepotism, the Nazi boosting, and fact that he literally tried to have a mob lynch his own vice president, they've got NOTHING.
    wow, you must really love your msm
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,275

    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    ToryJim said:

    So Boris has decided to go in to bat for Trump

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-13480329/BORIS-JOHNSON-liberal-hit-job-political-Trump-victory-likely.html

    Rishi must be tearing his hair out.

    It's nearly daily now with senior Tories genuflecting before Trump.
    This is why they need to lose and lose badly. We really don't want that shit here.
    David Lammy spent 2 days last week doing the same

    Presumably he is a Senior Tory?
    Everyone to the right of Mao is a Tory though, eh, comrade?
    Whether you like Trump or not, why not look at the bigger picture. For years since 2016 the u.s. administrative state have been trying to take down Trump, e.g. the 'Russian collusion' play by hrc. Why not ask yourself what are they so afraid of. Trump is a political outsider so in what circumstances could you imagine that Trump is a threat to the status quo such that his enemies behave so irrationally ? (hint: their corruption)
    "Why not ask yourself what they're so afraid of?"

    I agree. Once you set aside the lies, the chaos, the sexual assault, the anti-science agenda, the control over women's bodies, the fraud, the disastrous Covid response, the destabilising of geopolitical allies, the pandering to dictators, the backchannelling, nepotism, the Nazi boosting, and fact that he literally tried to have a mob lynch his own vice president, they've got NOTHING.
    wow, you must really love your msm
    Farooq was stating facts !
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,814
    Cookie said:

    tlg86 said:

    @Cookie - I visited Malham for the first time in 2022 - absolutely stunning (once I'd navigated my way past the bulls...)

    On another matter, Borussia Dortmund have lost the floating voter:

    https://x.com/GaryLineker/status/1796558643313438954

    @GaryLineker
    First time I’ll be cheering for @realmadriden in a Champions League final. 🙄

    Borussia Dortmund have signed a three-year sponsorship agreement with weapons manufacturer Rheinmetall.

    It's all quite difficult to follow, but ISTR Rheinmetall are supplying Putin, yes? So Lineker manages to be on the right side of this argument, though doesn't really make clear why. I think.
    Rheinmetall guns equipped Messerschmitts and Stukas during ze War.
  • pigeonpigeon Posts: 4,837
    Cookie said:

    tlg86 said:

    @Cookie - I visited Malham for the first time in 2022 - absolutely stunning (once I'd navigated my way past the bulls...)

    On another matter, Borussia Dortmund have lost the floating voter:

    https://x.com/GaryLineker/status/1796558643313438954

    @GaryLineker
    First time I’ll be cheering for @realmadriden in a Champions League final. 🙄

    Borussia Dortmund have signed a three-year sponsorship agreement with weapons manufacturer Rheinmetall.

    It's all quite difficult to follow, but ISTR Rheinmetall are supplying Putin, yes? So Lineker manages to be on the right side of this argument, though doesn't really make clear why. I think.
    It must be to do with Israel. They're a German firm so can't be supplying kit to the Russians.
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,321

    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    ToryJim said:

    So Boris has decided to go in to bat for Trump

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-13480329/BORIS-JOHNSON-liberal-hit-job-political-Trump-victory-likely.html

    Rishi must be tearing his hair out.

    It's nearly daily now with senior Tories genuflecting before Trump.
    This is why they need to lose and lose badly. We really don't want that shit here.
    David Lammy spent 2 days last week doing the same

    Presumably he is a Senior Tory?
    Everyone to the right of Mao is a Tory though, eh, comrade?
    Whether you like Trump or not, why not look at the bigger picture. For years since 2016 the u.s. administrative state have been trying to take down Trump, e.g. the 'Russian collusion' play by hrc. Why not ask yourself what are they so afraid of. Trump is a political outsider so in what circumstances could you imagine that Trump is a threat to the status quo such that his enemies behave so irrationally ? (hint: their corruption)
    "Why not ask yourself what they're so afraid of?"

    I agree. Once you set aside the lies, the chaos, the sexual assault, the anti-science agenda, the control over women's bodies, the fraud, the disastrous Covid response, the destabilising of geopolitical allies, the pandering to dictators, the backchannelling, nepotism, the Nazi boosting, and fact that he literally tried to have a mob lynch his own vice president, they've got NOTHING.
    wow, you must really love your msm
    You're early, Doogle.

    Your shift doesn't start until tomorrow morning.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,174
    Cookie said:

    tlg86 said:

    @Cookie - I visited Malham for the first time in 2022 - absolutely stunning (once I'd navigated my way past the bulls...)

    On another matter, Borussia Dortmund have lost the floating voter:

    https://x.com/GaryLineker/status/1796558643313438954

    @GaryLineker
    First time I’ll be cheering for @realmadriden in a Champions League final. 🙄

    Borussia Dortmund have signed a three-year sponsorship agreement with weapons manufacturer Rheinmetall.

    It's all quite difficult to follow, but ISTR Rheinmetall are supplying Putin, yes? So Lineker manages to be on the right side of this argument, though doesn't really make clear why. I think.
    From what I can tell, they are arming Ukraine. However, you can guess who they are also supplying.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,212
    a

    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    ToryJim said:

    So Boris has decided to go in to bat for Trump

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-13480329/BORIS-JOHNSON-liberal-hit-job-political-Trump-victory-likely.html

    Rishi must be tearing his hair out.

    It's nearly daily now with senior Tories genuflecting before Trump.
    This is why they need to lose and lose badly. We really don't want that shit here.
    David Lammy spent 2 days last week doing the same

    Presumably he is a Senior Tory?
    Everyone to the right of Mao is a Tory though, eh, comrade?
    Whether you like Trump or not, why not look at the bigger picture. For years since 2016 the u.s. administrative state have been trying to take down Trump, e.g. the 'Russian collusion' play by hrc. Why not ask yourself what are they so afraid of. Trump is a political outsider so in what circumstances could you imagine that Trump is a threat to the status quo such that his enemies behave so irrationally ? (hint: their corruption)
    "Why not ask yourself what they're so afraid of?"

    I agree. Once you set aside the lies, the chaos, the sexual assault, the anti-science agenda, the control over women's bodies, the fraud, the disastrous Covid response, the destabilising of geopolitical allies, the pandering to dictators, the backchannelling, nepotism, the Nazi boosting, and fact that he literally tried to have a mob lynch his own vice president, they've got NOTHING.
    wow, you must really love your msm
    Hello.

    A plane crashes on the Ukraine/Republic of China border. Which side do you bury the survivors?
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,051


    gabyhinsliff
    @gabyhinsliff
    ·
    1h
    some substantial labour candidates this time but @torstenbell
    is going to be a properly interesting MP - @resolutionfoundation research has consistently moved the needle in recent years & he knows how Whitewall works

    https://x.com/gabyhinsliff/status/1796584375838204105

    He was a very junior official for a very short period. He does not “know how Whitehall works”. But he is bright and should make a decent MP.
  • pigeonpigeon Posts: 4,837

    With regard to tactical voting, I've been looking at the Bicester and Woodstock constituency. The Britain Elects model predicts
    LD 35.1% + 8.5
    Con 32.6% - 21.3
    Lab 18.8% + 1.9
    Ref 8.1% + 7.8
    Grn 5.5% + 3.1
    +/- with 2019 (must with notional voteshares since its a new constituency)
    So any anti-Con tactical voters who look at that will vote LD.

    But if they look at Electoral Calculus, they'll see
    LAB 31.3%
    CON 27.9%
    LD 24.3%
    Ref 11.0%
    Grn 4.6%
    In which case they will vote Lab.

    Two questions for the PB brains trust:
    1. Given that they are based on very similar national vote shares, how come these predictions are so different?
    2. Which is more likely to be right?

    I'm sure there must be a number of seats where tactical voting won't be clear-cut, and hence the effect of it on overall seat-counts may not be as great as might be expected.

    Tactical Voting says LDs are the choice for non-Tories in Bicester:

    https://tactical.vote/bicester-and-woodstock/
    The difficulty, as in other seats like Didcot and Wantage, is in allowing for the large national increase in Lab vote and standstill or slight decline in LD vote since 2019. Electoral Calculus assumes that these changes are largely repeated locally, whereas Britain Elects and Tactical Voting assume that Labour voters wll resignedly vote LD tactically. My impression is that tactical voting is more limited this time and voters will largely indicate their natural preference. which will limit LD gains and in some cases, like Bicester, produce Labour gains from third place. We're certainly campaigning in Didcot and Wantage on the assuimption that the seat is winnable for Labour, and think it's quite unlikelyto be winnable by the LibDems.
    Agree. In the eventuality of a big Labour victory, the Lib Dems are only likely to be competitive in Tory (and SNP) seats where they are the obvious challenger and Labour are a very long way behind.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,926

    a

    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    ToryJim said:

    So Boris has decided to go in to bat for Trump

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-13480329/BORIS-JOHNSON-liberal-hit-job-political-Trump-victory-likely.html

    Rishi must be tearing his hair out.

    It's nearly daily now with senior Tories genuflecting before Trump.
    This is why they need to lose and lose badly. We really don't want that shit here.
    David Lammy spent 2 days last week doing the same

    Presumably he is a Senior Tory?
    Everyone to the right of Mao is a Tory though, eh, comrade?
    Whether you like Trump or not, why not look at the bigger picture. For years since 2016 the u.s. administrative state have been trying to take down Trump, e.g. the 'Russian collusion' play by hrc. Why not ask yourself what are they so afraid of. Trump is a political outsider so in what circumstances could you imagine that Trump is a threat to the status quo such that his enemies behave so irrationally ? (hint: their corruption)
    "Why not ask yourself what they're so afraid of?"

    I agree. Once you set aside the lies, the chaos, the sexual assault, the anti-science agenda, the control over women's bodies, the fraud, the disastrous Covid response, the destabilising of geopolitical allies, the pandering to dictators, the backchannelling, nepotism, the Nazi boosting, and fact that he literally tried to have a mob lynch his own vice president, they've got NOTHING.
    wow, you must really love your msm
    Hello.

    A plane crashes on the Ukraine/Republic of China border. Which side do you bury the survivors?
    I've already started my stopwatch.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,354
    pigeon said:

    Cookie said:

    tlg86 said:

    @Cookie - I visited Malham for the first time in 2022 - absolutely stunning (once I'd navigated my way past the bulls...)

    On another matter, Borussia Dortmund have lost the floating voter:

    https://x.com/GaryLineker/status/1796558643313438954

    @GaryLineker
    First time I’ll be cheering for @realmadriden in a Champions League final. 🙄

    Borussia Dortmund have signed a three-year sponsorship agreement with weapons manufacturer Rheinmetall.

    It's all quite difficult to follow, but ISTR Rheinmetall are supplying Putin, yes? So Lineker manages to be on the right side of this argument, though doesn't really make clear why. I think.
    It must be to do with Israel. They're a German firm so can't be supplying kit to the Russians.
    They are supplying masses of arms to Ukraine and have signed an agreement to open a factory in Ukraine, but they're also sending tank ammunition to Israel.

    https://afsc.org/gaza-genocide-companies

    "Germany's largest weapons manufacturer, which is providing Israel with 10,000 rounds of 120mm precision tank ammunition. Israel made the request in November, and Germany reportedly considered speeding up delivery of the ammunition by providing it from its own military's existing stockpiles while ordering more from Rheinmetall."
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,212
    edited May 31

    Cookie said:

    tlg86 said:

    @Cookie - I visited Malham for the first time in 2022 - absolutely stunning (once I'd navigated my way past the bulls...)

    On another matter, Borussia Dortmund have lost the floating voter:

    https://x.com/GaryLineker/status/1796558643313438954

    @GaryLineker
    First time I’ll be cheering for @realmadriden in a Champions League final. 🙄

    Borussia Dortmund have signed a three-year sponsorship agreement with weapons manufacturer Rheinmetall.

    It's all quite difficult to follow, but ISTR Rheinmetall are supplying Putin, yes? So Lineker manages to be on the right side of this argument, though doesn't really make clear why. I think.
    Rheinmetall guns equipped Messerschmitts and Stukas during ze War.
    Germany rearmed Fokkers captured when they overran Belgium and the Netherlands with Rheinmetall guns.

    So it *could* have been true that those chaps *were* in Fokkers…


  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,773

    pigeon said:

    Cookie said:

    tlg86 said:

    @Cookie - I visited Malham for the first time in 2022 - absolutely stunning (once I'd navigated my way past the bulls...)

    On another matter, Borussia Dortmund have lost the floating voter:

    https://x.com/GaryLineker/status/1796558643313438954

    @GaryLineker
    First time I’ll be cheering for @realmadriden in a Champions League final. 🙄

    Borussia Dortmund have signed a three-year sponsorship agreement with weapons manufacturer Rheinmetall.

    It's all quite difficult to follow, but ISTR Rheinmetall are supplying Putin, yes? So Lineker manages to be on the right side of this argument, though doesn't really make clear why. I think.
    It must be to do with Israel. They're a German firm so can't be supplying kit to the Russians.
    They are supplying masses of arms to Ukraine and have signed an agreement to open a factory in Ukraine, but they're also sending tank ammunition to Israel.

    https://afsc.org/gaza-genocide-companies

    "Germany's largest weapons manufacturer, which is providing Israel with 10,000 rounds of 120mm precision tank ammunition. Israel made the request in November, and Germany reportedly considered speeding up delivery of the ammunition by providing it from its own military's existing stockpiles while ordering more from Rheinmetall."
    They sound like the good guys then!
  • pigeonpigeon Posts: 4,837
    biggles said:

    Oh God. Biden. The state of him in this speech. And he’s our only hope of no Trump. I know I am saying nothing new here but, Christ….

    Conversation with husband earlier today:

    "Joe Biden is so infirm. Just think what David Attenborough looked like at his age."

    "David Attenborough is now 98 and he still looks in better nick than Biden."
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,009

    Here's where Labour think the battlefield is...

    I had a look at where Labour is sending activists from its “how to help” webpage. I found 256 constituencies where activists are being directed - seats Labour thinks are in play. They include all but one seat in Scotland so from here I am referring to England and Wales only.

    https://twitter.com/OwenWntr/status/1796497107366642057

    On the whole, the seats chosen are very bullish. They include 174 Conservative seats from 2019 (notional). That is every Conservative seat with a majority under 28% and over half of seats with a majority up to 32%...

    But there are some seats suggesting serious weakness. Here are those with the largest notional Labour majorities:

    1. Birmingham Ladywood (73%)
    2. Bethnal Green & Stepney (63%)
    3. Bradford West (61%)
    4. Birmingham Perry Barr (48%)
    5. Leicester South (46%)
    6. Blackburn (3%)

    174 gains from the Tories offset by 6 losses to Hamas and their fellow travellers. I'll take that.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,407
    Hudson = SeanT
  • fencesitter2fencesitter2 Posts: 48

    With regard to tactical voting, I've been looking at the Bicester and Woodstock constituency. The Britain Elects model predicts
    LD 35.1% + 8.5
    Con 32.6% - 21.3
    Lab 18.8% + 1.9
    Ref 8.1% + 7.8
    Grn 5.5% + 3.1
    +/- with 2019 (must with notional voteshares since its a new constituency)
    So any anti-Con tactical voters who look at that will vote LD.

    But if they look at Electoral Calculus, they'll see
    LAB 31.3%
    CON 27.9%
    LD 24.3%
    Ref 11.0%
    Grn 4.6%
    In which case they will vote Lab.

    Two questions for the PB brains trust:
    1. Given that they are based on very similar national vote shares, how come these predictions are so different?
    2. Which is more likely to be right?

    I'm sure there must be a number of seats where tactical voting won't be clear-cut, and hence the effect of it on overall seat-counts may not be as great as might be expected.

    Tactical Voting says LDs are the choice for non-Tories in Bicester:

    https://tactical.vote/bicester-and-woodstock/
    The difficulty, as in other seats like Didcot and Wantage, is in allowing for the large national increase in Lab vote and standstill or slight decline in LD vote since 2019. Electoral Calculus assumes that these changes are largely repeated locally, whereas Britain Elects and Tactical Voting assume that Labour voters wll resignedly vote LD tactically. My impression is that tactical voting is more limited this time and voters will largely indicate their natural preference. which will limit LD gains and in some cases, like Bicester, produce Labour gains from third place. We're certainly campaigning in Didcot and Wantage on the assuimption that the seat is winnable for Labour, and think it's quite unlikelyto be winnable by the LibDems.
    Just to provide the verdict of a third model, the Economist reckons Bicester and Woodstock will be
    Con 32
    Lab 30
    LD 19
    Ref 8
    Green 7
    ie that the lack of tactical voting (or confused tactical voting) will enable Con to hold the seat.
    That seems to me to be the most likely outcome, if both Lab and LD mount a determined campaign. I can't see any way that tactical voters can know which way to vote, given three models which predict three different winners.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,697
    Ed Miliband

    @Ed_Miliband

    Great British HENergy 🐔 🇬🇧


    https://x.com/Ed_Miliband/status/1796593577914675504
  • Wulfrun_PhilWulfrun_Phil Posts: 4,780
    edited May 31

    With regard to tactical voting, I've been looking at the Bicester and Woodstock constituency. The Britain Elects model predicts
    LD 35.1% + 8.5
    Con 32.6% - 21.3
    Lab 18.8% + 1.9
    Ref 8.1% + 7.8
    Grn 5.5% + 3.1
    +/- with 2019 (must with notional voteshares since its a new constituency)
    So any anti-Con tactical voters who look at that will vote LD.

    But if they look at Electoral Calculus, they'll see
    LAB 31.3%
    CON 27.9%
    LD 24.3%
    Ref 11.0%
    Grn 4.6%
    In which case they will vote Lab.

    Two questions for the PB brains trust:
    1. Given that they are based on very similar national vote shares, how come these predictions are so different?
    2. Which is more likely to be right?

    I'm sure there must be a number of seats where tactical voting won't be clear-cut, and hence the effect of it on overall seat-counts may not be as great as might be expected.

    The notional 2019 result for Bicester and Woodstock is 53.4% Con, 26.5% LD, 17.1% Lab.

    I think it's worth looking at UNS in national opinion polls as a starting point. At the moment LDs are down nearly 3% on 2019, Lab are up about 12.5%, Con are down 25%. UNS would just about put Labour ahead of the Conservatives with the LDs in a clear 3rd.

    The Britain Elects "model" for Bicester looks really strange to me, with the LDs really bucking the national trend of a declining national vote share, and the Lab vote barely up despite taking off nationally.

    OK, UNS isn't everything. So let's look at the R&W Blue Wall polling, it's instructive because it's made up of an amalgam of seats in the South where the aggregated vote share from 2019 has the LDs in 2nd place i.e. 2019 was Con 50%, LD 27%, Lab 20%. Not that dissimilar to Bicester in 2019 in fact. But what's striking about the Blue Wall polling is that R&W have the change in main parties share much the same as the national share. If anything, Labour are doing slightly better. The latest change on 2019 in the R&W Blue Wall seats is Con -24.7%, LD -4.4%, Lab +13.4%. That is even better for Labour's chances than just applying UNS, with those % changes and you get a result very close to that predicted by Electoral Calculus in Bicester.

    So you're right, tactical voting isn't absolutly clear cut, but looking at all that I would give Labour a better chance than the LDs on current national polling.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,174

    Here's where Labour think the battlefield is...

    I had a look at where Labour is sending activists from its “how to help” webpage. I found 256 constituencies where activists are being directed - seats Labour thinks are in play. They include all but one seat in Scotland so from here I am referring to England and Wales only.

    https://twitter.com/OwenWntr/status/1796497107366642057

    On the whole, the seats chosen are very bullish. They include 174 Conservative seats from 2019 (notional). That is every Conservative seat with a majority under 28% and over half of seats with a majority up to 32%...

    But there are some seats suggesting serious weakness. Here are those with the largest notional Labour majorities:

    1. Birmingham Ladywood (73%)
    2. Bethnal Green & Stepney (63%)
    3. Bradford West (61%)
    4. Birmingham Perry Barr (48%)
    5. Leicester South (46%)
    6. Blackburn (3%)

    174 gains from the Tories offset by 6 losses to Hamas and their fellow travellers. I'll take that.
    Two ways of looking at it. On the one hand, it could do Labour some good to detach itself from the Muslim vote. A big win elsewhere and who cares about a few seats?

    The problem is if Labour don't win by all that much and at the subsequent election they look like they might rely on a deal with MPs of such seats.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 17,214

    Ed Miliband

    @Ed_Miliband

    Great British HENergy 🐔 🇬🇧


    https://x.com/Ed_Miliband/status/1796593577914675504

    Given what most hen parties are like, "Chaos with Ed Miliband".
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,549
    Leon said:

    Cookie said:

    Not really a politics post, but I'm going to use my quota.

    You don't really go to the Yorkshire Dales much when you grow up in Greater Manchester. They're not far away, but the Lake District is easier to get to - and what can compete with that? - and the Peak District is closer still. So I've managed to go 49 years before today finally getting around to seeing Malham Cove. (I took the daughters as a half-term activity to get them off screens, but really it was for me.)
    There's a long circular walk you can do. Along the stream and through the wood to Janet's Foss (named after the fairy who dwells behind the waterfall - apparently Janet is a not uncommon name for fairies in the North); up the frankly astonishing Gordale Scar (which was unascendable - the path that climbs up beside the waterfall also being a waterfall); back and up onto the plateau, and among big skies and rockscapes and distant misty views to Malham Tarn, then back to the limestone pavement above Malham Cove and down to the Cove itself. It's hard to say exactly why a cliff should be astonishing, but it's astonishing. It's like a cathedral. I couldn't stop looking at it. I could have looked at it all day. It glows. One of the wonders of the North. Definite noom.


    Happy to report this was all achieved without disproportionate whingeing.

    That does look quite noomy! Britain is lucky with noom

    I’ve felt a bit of noom here in Moldova but TBH not much. I expected more - not sure why

    I’m hoping for Good Noom in Transnistria tomorrow
    I think my son's just had his first NOOM moment. He was drawing a mosaic at Bignor Roman Villa, concentrating intently on his work. It was quiet, and no-one entered the room. Eventually he looked up at me and said: "Dad, I feel something in here, something bigger."

    "Spiritual?" I asked.

    He thought about it a little. "No, but bigger. History."

    He then explained that he felt almost as though he was partly back in that time, as if he was breathing in Roman dust.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,697
    TUC's head of campaigns gets seat. More talent who will not want to just be backbench vote fodder.

    Starmer has a problem looming imho. Maybe it is one of life's nice problems to have...




    Antonia Bance
    @antoniabance
    ·
    19h
    It’s the honour of my life to be selected as Labour’s candidate for Tipton and Wednesbury.

    https://x.com/antoniabance


  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,239

    Leon said:

    Cookie said:

    Not really a politics post, but I'm going to use my quota.

    You don't really go to the Yorkshire Dales much when you grow up in Greater Manchester. They're not far away, but the Lake District is easier to get to - and what can compete with that? - and the Peak District is closer still. So I've managed to go 49 years before today finally getting around to seeing Malham Cove. (I took the daughters as a half-term activity to get them off screens, but really it was for me.)
    There's a long circular walk you can do. Along the stream and through the wood to Janet's Foss (named after the fairy who dwells behind the waterfall - apparently Janet is a not uncommon name for fairies in the North); up the frankly astonishing Gordale Scar (which was unascendable - the path that climbs up beside the waterfall also being a waterfall); back and up onto the plateau, and among big skies and rockscapes and distant misty views to Malham Tarn, then back to the limestone pavement above Malham Cove and down to the Cove itself. It's hard to say exactly why a cliff should be astonishing, but it's astonishing. It's like a cathedral. I couldn't stop looking at it. I could have looked at it all day. It glows. One of the wonders of the North. Definite noom.


    Happy to report this was all achieved without disproportionate whingeing.

    That does look quite noomy! Britain is lucky with noom

    I’ve felt a bit of noom here in Moldova but TBH not much. I expected more - not sure why

    I’m hoping for Good Noom in Transnistria tomorrow
    I think my son's just had his first NOOM moment. He was drawing a mosaic at Bignor Roman Villa, concentrating intently on his work. It was quiet, and no-one entered the room. Eventually he looked up at me and said: "Dad, I feel something in here, something bigger."

    "Spiritual?" I asked.

    He thought about it a little. "No, but bigger. History."

    He then explained that he felt almost as though he was partly back in that time, as if he was breathing in Roman dust.
    That’s it! Yes. THE NOOM
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,354

    Ed Miliband

    @Ed_Miliband

    Great British HENergy 🐔 🇬🇧


    https://x.com/Ed_Miliband/status/1796593577914675504

    Strong 2015 vibes. The Milifans ride again!
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    WHY anyone with any other top job prospects would WANT to be in the USA federal cabinet is beyond me.

    The only really significant jobs are Secretary of State and Secretary of Defense. The rest are glorified office boys & girls.

    As many have discovered & rued, for example Pete Buttigieg whose political prospects have NOT been enhanced IMHO by being US Transportation Secretary. Even less so for the rest of the politicos in the Biden cabinet.

    Which is NOT unique in this regard - just ask Rick Perry!
  • TresTres Posts: 2,694

    Farooq said:

    ToryJim said:

    So Boris has decided to go in to bat for Trump

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-13480329/BORIS-JOHNSON-liberal-hit-job-political-Trump-victory-likely.html

    Rishi must be tearing his hair out.

    It's nearly daily now with senior Tories genuflecting before Trump.
    This is why they need to lose and lose badly. We really don't want that shit here.
    I think this is what Casino Royale calls "social proof". It's a badge of honour among a large portion of the British Right to support Trump as proof that they are an independent free-thinker, not shackled to the left-wing consensus that is hobbling Britain.

    But it's actually a sign of brain rot due to spending too much time in the social media echo chamber.
    nah it's just a sign that they are all a bunch of *****
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,627

    stodge said:

    Just received a begogram from CCHQ demanding more money by 10pm tonight, because funding has dried up the last few days, or they'll have to pull the campaign in some seats.

    I can't say it's made me want to hit the 'DONATE' button.

    Would it be unkind to suggest that, given they are lacking 200 or so candidates, they can afford to pull the campaign in some seats?
    Finding a paper candidate for an unwinnable seat like East Ham shouldn't be difficult. It's finding those where they might still have a chance which is difficult.

    I suspect the Conservatives are actively fighting 150-200 seats at most given paucity of human resources, not money. Labour are probably fighting 200-250 seats hard but both seats will move activists to other seats if needed.

    Noone is going to want to waste any time fighting a seat like East Ham.
    Interesting to ponder what the Tories will do in my seat North Dorset. One of they're top 20 safe seats but Labour seem not to be bothering and the LDs will go hard. I think the Tories will have to put some effort in here.
    My cousin there is no fan of the Tories, but neither is he keen on a 20% hike in his daughters school fees. A very bright girl who lost her mother last year to cancer, so he is keen not to move schools.

    Fortunately he can vote LD, as I think he wouldn't want to vote Lab.
  • EPGEPG Posts: 6,652

    WHY anyone with any other top job prospects would WANT to be in the USA federal cabinet is beyond me.

    The only really significant jobs are Secretary of State and Secretary of Defense. The rest are glorified office boys & girls.

    As many have discovered & rued, for example Pete Buttigieg whose political prospects have NOT been enhanced IMHO by being US Transportation Secretary. Even less so for the rest of the politicos in the Biden cabinet.

    Which is NOT unique in this regard - just ask Rick Perry!

    I would say AG is a decent job, although indeed more a capstone in one's career than a stepping stone.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 41,950

    Cookie said:

    tlg86 said:

    @Cookie - I visited Malham for the first time in 2022 - absolutely stunning (once I'd navigated my way past the bulls...)

    On another matter, Borussia Dortmund have lost the floating voter:

    https://x.com/GaryLineker/status/1796558643313438954

    @GaryLineker
    First time I’ll be cheering for @realmadriden in a Champions League final. 🙄

    Borussia Dortmund have signed a three-year sponsorship agreement with weapons manufacturer Rheinmetall.

    It's all quite difficult to follow, but ISTR Rheinmetall are supplying Putin, yes? So Lineker manages to be on the right side of this argument, though doesn't really make clear why. I think.
    Rheinmetall guns equipped Messerschmitts and Stukas during ze War.
    Almost certainly the most potently armed fighter of WWII, 4 x 30 mm MK 108 cannon. One shell from them would mess up your day.


  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559

    Leon said:

    Cookie said:

    Not really a politics post, but I'm going to use my quota.

    You don't really go to the Yorkshire Dales much when you grow up in Greater Manchester. They're not far away, but the Lake District is easier to get to - and what can compete with that? - and the Peak District is closer still. So I've managed to go 49 years before today finally getting around to seeing Malham Cove. (I took the daughters as a half-term activity to get them off screens, but really it was for me.)
    There's a long circular walk you can do. Along the stream and through the wood to Janet's Foss (named after the fairy who dwells behind the waterfall - apparently Janet is a not uncommon name for fairies in the North); up the frankly astonishing Gordale Scar (which was unascendable - the path that climbs up beside the waterfall also being a waterfall); back and up onto the plateau, and among big skies and rockscapes and distant misty views to Malham Tarn, then back to the limestone pavement above Malham Cove and down to the Cove itself. It's hard to say exactly why a cliff should be astonishing, but it's astonishing. It's like a cathedral. I couldn't stop looking at it. I could have looked at it all day. It glows. One of the wonders of the North. Definite noom.


    Happy to report this was all achieved without disproportionate whingeing.

    That does look quite noomy! Britain is lucky with noom

    I’ve felt a bit of noom here in Moldova but TBH not much. I expected more - not sure why

    I’m hoping for Good Noom in Transnistria tomorrow
    I think my son's just had his first NOOM moment. He was drawing a mosaic at Bignor Roman Villa, concentrating intently on his work. It was quiet, and no-one entered the room. Eventually he looked up at me and said: "Dad, I feel something in here, something bigger."

    "Spiritual?" I asked.

    He thought about it a little. "No, but bigger. History."

    He then explained that he felt almost as though he was partly back in that time, as if he was breathing in Roman dust.
    Perhaps in a previous existence he was a British Roman dustman?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,602
    According to the World Bank, Russia's economy has now overtaken Japan's in PPP terms, making it the fourth biggest economy behind China, the US and India.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,239
    More foreign countries with quite intense noom per sq km, and for very different reasons

    Namibia
    Peru
    Greece
    Ethiopia

    I was chatting with my Moldovan guide today - a brilliant well traveled lady (been to 50+ countries, very bright) and I told her the concept of noom and she grasped it immediately and we agreed there is one place on earth that might be entirely made out of noom:

    Easter Island
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,555

    Fuck it, I'm watching Aliens again.

    Directors Cut? With the extra machine gun carnage?
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