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  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,129
    Worth noting that on current prices, Truth Social is "worth" the same as Twitter.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    kjh said:

    Labour are leafleting and canvassing in Guildford with dodgy bar charts (that's our job) showing they are the main challengers. Honestly they would rather the Tories hold Guildford by trying to thwart the LDs. Why not concentrate on sensible targets (admittedly not a lot around here).

    They want a crippled Tory party as an unpopular opposition, not a broad LD group poised to pose them problems. They'd rather 180 Tories and 30 LDs than 130 and 80
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,027

    Scott_xP said:

    The ship that crashed in Baltimore this morning also crashed in Antwerp in 2016

    Not surprised given the huge stack of containers forward of the bridge! How can the captain see clearly?!
    One hopes their navigation system did not rely entirely on the captain's eyesight.

    Having said that though I am reminded of a "behind the scenes" tour of a modern cruise liner that I once did - The bridge bristled with computer screens and navigation systems so I was surprised to find a couple of guys with binoculars surveying the sea ahead of the ship. Surely this was not necessary I said to the captain, the systems would warn of any hazards. No he said, the systems only pick up large metallic objects, they would not "see" a small non-metallic boat, ships still use human lookouts to avoid the risk of collisions.
    This accident did NOT occur out in the ocean, but rather in Baltimore harbor.

    There were TWO pilots on board - that is, not members of the crew, but certified to pilot ships into & out of Baltimore to the Atlantic via Chesapeake Bay.
    It is interesting that the Captain, who remains in charge even with 2 pilots, managed a Mayday which effect was that the bridge was immediately closed to traffic no doubt saving many lives

  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,009
    Just two ministerial resignations this afternoon.

    A good day for Team Sunak.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    With the Sadiq Khan ad, it feels like the Tories are trying to appeal to a caricature of the people who voted for them last time, which seems out of touch. Citing the failures of Labour run cities and countries is fair enough, but this is a bit much

    Bring back optimism
  • HeathenerHeathener Posts: 7,084
    I’m rather impressed by @TSE at the moment.

    The only downside is that if people like him stick around in the Party after the defeat, they will one day bounce back.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,603
    rcs1000 said:

    Worth noting that on current prices, Truth Social is "worth" the same as Twitter.

    But Twitter isn't traded?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,061
    rcs1000 said:

    DavidL said:

    Trump's media company valued at nearly $9.6 billion as shares soar in debut
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/trump-s-media-company-valued-at-nearly-9-6-billion-as-shares-soar-in-debut/ar-BB1kzl9r

    World's greatest business chief.

    It would be really interesting to know who is push buying these shares on debut. And what they might expect from the next POTUS in return.
    I think it's a monumental short squeeze.

    Remember, this is a business doing less than $5m in sales, running a massive loss.

    Remember, too, that monetizing these businesses is hard. Because - unlike Google or Facebook - you don't know anything about your users.
    But there's a hundred million or so cash in the company (I think ?), so it's possible to keep the scam running for quite some time.
    A stock issue in six months time - along with the sales of a large slug of Trump's holdings - is far from impossible.

    On any rational financial analysis, it's somewhere close to worthless - but it's also a meme stock, and there is a superabundance of suckers out there for this one.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,354
    edited March 26
    I'm not sure how he justifies the last line though. Impressive though the usurpation of Henry IV was, it pales compared to that of Richard III.
    Heathener said:

    I’m rather impressed by @TSE at the moment.

    The only downside is that if people like him stick around in the Party after the defeat, they will one day bounce back.

  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,627
    kinabalu said:

    Trump's media company valued at nearly $9.6 billion as shares soar in debut
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/trump-s-media-company-valued-at-nearly-9-6-billion-as-shares-soar-in-debut/ar-BB1kzl9r

    World's greatest business chief.

    Nice revenge for being banned from Twitter.
    Yes although I fear for the bank accounts of small MAGA investors.
    Trump will be mortified if he makes big money on the deal but lots of his supporters lose out.
    There's a sucker born every minute. Perhaps every second in MAGA land!
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    rcs1000 said:

    DavidL said:

    Trump's media company valued at nearly $9.6 billion as shares soar in debut
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/trump-s-media-company-valued-at-nearly-9-6-billion-as-shares-soar-in-debut/ar-BB1kzl9r

    World's greatest business chief.

    It would be really interesting to know who is push buying these shares on debut. And what they might expect from the next POTUS in return.
    I think it's a monumental short squeeze.

    Remember, this is a business doing less than $5m in sales, running a massive loss.

    Remember, too, that monetizing these businesses is hard. Because - unlike Google or Facebook - you don't know anything about your users.
    Perfect set-up for money laundering "investments" from anyone who wants to "invest" in Donald Trump.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,009
    Big game tonight in the National League: The Heed v The Poolies

    Two County Durham sides fighting it out for the three points.

  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    ydoethur said:

    I'm not sure how he justifies the last line though. Impressive though the usurpation of Henry IV was, it pales compared to that of Richard III.

    Heathener said:

    I’m rather impressed by @TSE at the moment.

    The only downside is that if people like him stick around in the Party after the defeat, they will one day bounce back.

    Nah, Richard became aware of the illegitimacy of his nephews and that he was the rightful heir. Then the Tudor arse came and wrecked everything.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,627

    https://pro.morningconsult.com/trackers/2024-presidential-election-polling

    B 43
    T 42

    Interestingly (maybe) both now have the same net favourability 46/51 (-5)

    This graph shows an interesting trend. Undecided s and Independents making up their minds?



  • HeathenerHeathener Posts: 7,084

    Leon said:

    Nigelb said:

    Leon said:

    FPT

    darkage said:

    rcs1000 said:

    darkage said:

    I appreciate that this may just be me seeing what I want to see but I have become aware of signs that men in particular are getting fed up with 'woke' ; I went out for a few beers last night and on the fourth pint, my friend was agreeing on subjects like that cancelling people had gone too far, that the kids will get fed up with the totalitarian indoctrination in schools on issues like 'gender' and 'hate speech' and rebel against it; that the woke right (ie Trump 2024) are an inevitable and predictable response to the extremes of the 'woke left', etc etc. It is only a personal anecdote but for many years this group of friends were very accepting of the zeitgeist but now I am detecting that they are changing and seeing the world differently. I've also seen this with older friends as well who start to look at the left and right and comment 'they are both as bad as each other'. Something also increasingly evident with commentators on here.

    Why is it that it is always that Trump (and the MAGA right) is a reaction to woke? Why not the other way around?

    Take immigration. Under Obama, the Southern US border was essentially under control. Crossings were at a twenty year low. Trump then made a big deal of it, and the Left reacted against him.
    There is a lot in this @rcs1000.
    See also Brexit in the UK- in many ways 'woke' was an evolution of 'remain', responding in turn to the obsession with a hard Brexit, which itself was a response to the approach to EU integration pursued by the political establishment.
    "Woke" seems to me to be a catch-all term of division like "blob" or "establishment" or "deep state" not to mention "enemies of the people." It is designed to encourage fragmentation of society by persuading people that their interests are being undermined by malevolent forces conspiring against them.
    Woke is an extremely hand and nicely pejorative word for the ensemble of insane ideas, policies, politics that see a person’s unalterable identity - sexual, racial, social - as more important than anything else (like character or attitude or persona or desires), and that certain races and genders - whites, males, etc - are inherently racist and sexist and always the oppressors, and that this is THE overwhelming truth and horror of society which must be addressed above and beyond all others ..
    How many people do you imagine hold those views as you describe them (rather than a mild version of a small subset of them) ?

    If it's more than a handful, it's probably you that's insane.
    This is depressingly stupid

    I don’t think you’re that dim so I shall presume you’re at work and unable to say anything more considered, interesting or articulate, due to time pressure
    You must always be at 'work' then, as you never say anything considered, interesting, and particularly articulate.
    Indeed. I was scrolling through the thread, full of interesting thoughts and perceptions when I came across one glaringly jarring outrider. A toxic piece of nastiness.

    Then I saw the author.

    No idea why he’s still permitted on here tbh. Drags the site down from its considered and erudite debates continually.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479

    Big game tonight in the National League: The Heed v The Poolies

    Two County Durham sides fighting it out for the three points.

    Gateshead is Tyne & Wear nowadays (since 1974) but still a local derby of sorts I guess.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,354

    ydoethur said:

    I'm not sure how he justifies the last line though. Impressive though the usurpation of Henry IV was, it pales compared to that of Richard III.

    Heathener said:

    I’m rather impressed by @TSE at the moment.

    The only downside is that if people like him stick around in the Party after the defeat, they will one day bounce back.

    Nah, Richard became aware of the illegitimacy of his nephews and that he was the rightful heir. Then the Tudor arse came and wrecked everything.
    Richard *invented* the story that his nephews were illegitimate and it's very possible he did so only after becoming King. Initially, he resurrected Clarence's claim that Edward IV had been illegitimate.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479
    Foxy said:

    https://pro.morningconsult.com/trackers/2024-presidential-election-polling

    B 43
    T 42

    Interestingly (maybe) both now have the same net favourability 46/51 (-5)

    This graph shows an interesting trend. Undecided s and Independents making up their minds?



    yes, it's slow(ish) progress for Biden but the trend is certainly there.
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,189
    Heathener said:

    I’m rather impressed by @TSE at the moment.

    The only downside is that if people like him stick around in the Party after the defeat, they will one day bounce back.

    Having a couple of viable broadly based options to vote for coming from just each side of centrist should be the ideal though. We shouldn’t have to keep repeating the game of one party running itself into a cul de sac so that the other wins largely by default despite having glaring deficiencies in its offer.
  • kjh said:

    Labour are leafleting and canvassing in Guildford with dodgy bar charts (that's our job) showing they are the main challengers. Honestly they would rather the Tories hold Guildford by trying to thwart the LDs. Why not concentrate on sensible targets (admittedly not a lot around here).

    Same around here in Didcot and Wantage. My big concern is that the personal ambition of Labour candidates, who see the coming GE as possibly their only chance of becoming an MP, will lead to vote splits that will allow the Tories to cling on to numerous seats.
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 2,998
    I love this line in the Nicole Shanahan Wikipedia bio: "In 2022, Shanahan gave $70 million to Blue Meridian Partners, which makes grants to nonprofits to help poverty."

    Unexpected honesty!
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,627

    Foxy said:

    https://pro.morningconsult.com/trackers/2024-presidential-election-polling

    B 43
    T 42

    Interestingly (maybe) both now have the same net favourability 46/51 (-5)

    This graph shows an interesting trend. Undecided s and Independents making up their minds?



    yes, it's slow(ish) progress for Biden but the trend is certainly there.
    I am a bit sceptical of US polls as they do seem much less transparent than UK polls.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,061

    rcs1000 said:

    DavidL said:

    Trump's media company valued at nearly $9.6 billion as shares soar in debut
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/trump-s-media-company-valued-at-nearly-9-6-billion-as-shares-soar-in-debut/ar-BB1kzl9r

    World's greatest business chief.

    It would be really interesting to know who is push buying these shares on debut. And what they might expect from the next POTUS in return.
    I think it's a monumental short squeeze.

    Remember, this is a business doing less than $5m in sales, running a massive loss.

    Remember, too, that monetizing these businesses is hard. Because - unlike Google or Facebook - you don't know anything about your users.
    Perfect set-up for money laundering "investments" from anyone who wants to "invest" in Donald Trump.
    You're not wrong.

    When control of the entire US is potentially at stake, a couple of hundred million - which would probably tip a contest between the shorts and the suckers - is neither here nor there for those with the money.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,098
    Foxy said:

    kinabalu said:

    Trump's media company valued at nearly $9.6 billion as shares soar in debut
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/trump-s-media-company-valued-at-nearly-9-6-billion-as-shares-soar-in-debut/ar-BB1kzl9r

    World's greatest business chief.

    Nice revenge for being banned from Twitter.
    Yes although I fear for the bank accounts of small MAGA investors.
    Trump will be mortified if he makes big money on the deal but lots of his supporters lose out.
    There's a sucker born every minute. Perhaps every second in MAGA land!
    Yep. But just so long as there aren't over 70 million of them in November.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    I'm not sure how he justifies the last line though. Impressive though the usurpation of Henry IV was, it pales compared to that of Richard III.

    Heathener said:

    I’m rather impressed by @TSE at the moment.

    The only downside is that if people like him stick around in the Party after the defeat, they will one day bounce back.

    Nah, Richard became aware of the illegitimacy of his nephews and that he was the rightful heir. Then the Tudor arse came and wrecked everything.
    Richard *invented* the story that his nephews were illegitimate and it's very possible he did so only after becoming King. Initially, he resurrected Clarence's claim that Edward IV had been illegitimate.
    I'm a paid up member of the Richard was wronged throng. The victor's rewrite history to hide their own crimes.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061

    kjh said:

    Labour are leafleting and canvassing in Guildford with dodgy bar charts (that's our job) showing they are the main challengers. Honestly they would rather the Tories hold Guildford by trying to thwart the LDs. Why not concentrate on sensible targets (admittedly not a lot around here).

    Same around here in Didcot and Wantage. My big concern is that the personal ambition of Labour candidates, who see the coming GE as possibly their only chance of becoming an MP, will lead to vote splits that will allow the Tories to cling on to numerous seats.
    That suits Labour, they don't want a strong LD contingent
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,620
    ydoethur said:

    I'm not sure how he justifies the last line though. Impressive though the usurpation of Henry IV was, it pales compared to that of Richard III.

    Heathener said:

    I’m rather impressed by @TSE at the moment.

    The only downside is that if people like him stick around in the Party after the defeat, they will one day bounce back.

    Ableist smears against Richard III have ruined his good reputation.

    Nobody doubts Henry Bolingbroke was a usurper.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479
    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    https://pro.morningconsult.com/trackers/2024-presidential-election-polling

    B 43
    T 42

    Interestingly (maybe) both now have the same net favourability 46/51 (-5)

    This graph shows an interesting trend. Undecided s and Independents making up their minds?



    yes, it's slow(ish) progress for Biden but the trend is certainly there.
    I am a bit sceptical of US polls as they do seem much less transparent than UK polls.
    I have no idea what you are talking about...............


  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,412
    Nigelb said:

    rcs1000 said:

    DavidL said:

    Trump's media company valued at nearly $9.6 billion as shares soar in debut
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/trump-s-media-company-valued-at-nearly-9-6-billion-as-shares-soar-in-debut/ar-BB1kzl9r

    World's greatest business chief.

    It would be really interesting to know who is push buying these shares on debut. And what they might expect from the next POTUS in return.
    I think it's a monumental short squeeze.

    Remember, this is a business doing less than $5m in sales, running a massive loss.

    Remember, too, that monetizing these businesses is hard. Because - unlike Google or Facebook - you don't know anything about your users.
    Perfect set-up for money laundering "investments" from anyone who wants to "invest" in Donald Trump.
    You're not wrong.

    When control of the entire US is potentially at stake, a couple of hundred million - which would probably tip a contest between the shorts and the suckers - is neither here nor there for those with the money.
    Strange, I could have sworn that when it came to the Liz Truss minibudget, we were told that the markets were dispassionate arbiters of economic stability, and the mere hint that they could be influenced by any political considerations was the subject of loud and somewhat laboured guffaws.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,620

    Unfortunately this thread is another example of fake news. Boris Johnson doesn't have allies in the prural. Just Nadine.

    Nope, meet Dame Andrea Jenkyns.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    ToryJim said:

    Heathener said:

    I’m rather impressed by @TSE at the moment.

    The only downside is that if people like him stick around in the Party after the defeat, they will one day bounce back.

    Having a couple of viable broadly based options to vote for coming from just each side of centrist should be the ideal though. We shouldn’t have to keep repeating the game of one party running itself into a cul de sac so that the other wins largely by default despite having glaring deficiencies in its offer.
    The Tories need to hive off the wing nuts as do Labour and take us back to a 60s/70s dynamic. There is room for Reform and the WPB/A Corbyn vehicle to take the odd seat and represent the not inconsequential strands of thought therein whilst the centre fights for government. A destroyed Tory party becomes problematic once we consider what replaces it
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,620
    Heathener said:

    I’m rather impressed by @TSE at the moment.

    The only downside is that if people like him stick around in the Party after the defeat, they will one day bounce back.

    Wait, you weren't impressed with me before?

    May your pizzas be full of pineapples.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,412

    ToryJim said:

    Heathener said:

    I’m rather impressed by @TSE at the moment.

    The only downside is that if people like him stick around in the Party after the defeat, they will one day bounce back.

    Having a couple of viable broadly based options to vote for coming from just each side of centrist should be the ideal though. We shouldn’t have to keep repeating the game of one party running itself into a cul de sac so that the other wins largely by default despite having glaring deficiencies in its offer.
    The Tories need to hive off the wing nuts as do Labour and take us back to a 60s/70s dynamic. There is room for Reform and the WPB/A Corbyn vehicle to take the odd seat and represent the not inconsequential strands of thought therein whilst the centre fights for government. A destroyed Tory party becomes problematic once we consider what replaces it
    Lovely to have you back. However I am baffled as to how you see the widely acknowledged decline of the UK during the post-war consensus period as a desirable model for future political developments. It takes all sorts I guess.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,814

    Heathener said:

    I’m rather impressed by @TSE at the moment.

    The only downside is that if people like him stick around in the Party after the defeat, they will one day bounce back.

    Wait, you weren't impressed with me before?

    May your pizzas be full of pineapples.
    Strawberry and banana!
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,061

    Nigelb said:

    rcs1000 said:

    DavidL said:

    Trump's media company valued at nearly $9.6 billion as shares soar in debut
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/trump-s-media-company-valued-at-nearly-9-6-billion-as-shares-soar-in-debut/ar-BB1kzl9r

    World's greatest business chief.

    It would be really interesting to know who is push buying these shares on debut. And what they might expect from the next POTUS in return.
    I think it's a monumental short squeeze.

    Remember, this is a business doing less than $5m in sales, running a massive loss.

    Remember, too, that monetizing these businesses is hard. Because - unlike Google or Facebook - you don't know anything about your users.
    Perfect set-up for money laundering "investments" from anyone who wants to "invest" in Donald Trump.
    You're not wrong.

    When control of the entire US is potentially at stake, a couple of hundred million - which would probably tip a contest between the shorts and the suckers - is neither here nor there for those with the money.
    Strange, I could have sworn that when it came to the Liz Truss minibudget, we were told that the markets were dispassionate arbiters of economic stability, and the mere hint that they could be influenced by any political considerations was the subject of loud and somewhat laboured guffaws.
    You're comparing the international bond market with a single company. Meaningless.

    And no one said markets are dispassionate - just that you have to maintain their confidence if you're a government that needs to borrow money. Which she dismally failed to do.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    edited March 26

    ToryJim said:

    Heathener said:

    I’m rather impressed by @TSE at the moment.

    The only downside is that if people like him stick around in the Party after the defeat, they will one day bounce back.

    Having a couple of viable broadly based options to vote for coming from just each side of centrist should be the ideal though. We shouldn’t have to keep repeating the game of one party running itself into a cul de sac so that the other wins largely by default despite having glaring deficiencies in its offer.
    The Tories need to hive off the wing nuts as do Labour and take us back to a 60s/70s dynamic. There is room for Reform and the WPB/A Corbyn vehicle to take the odd seat and represent the not inconsequential strands of thought therein whilst the centre fights for government. A destroyed Tory party becomes problematic once we consider what replaces it
    Lovely to have you back. However I am baffled as to how you see the widely acknowledged decline of the UK during the post-war consensus period as a desirable model for future political developments. It takes all sorts I guess.
    Indeed it does. I seek clarity in choice instead of the current fog of fetidness.
    And thank you.

    Edit - the 'wing nuts' is not a right/left thing btw, it's get rid of the nutters, criminals and wasters on both sides are offer a range of choices of party representing the proper range of political thought
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 9,678
    Odd video. Is it actually aimed primarily at a US audience? It does seem like something the GoP would put out with the message 'What Labour did over there the Democrats are about to do over here' and ending with a picture if Khan and Biden in a smiling embrace. I don't get it.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,984

    ToryJim said:

    Heathener said:

    I’m rather impressed by @TSE at the moment.

    The only downside is that if people like him stick around in the Party after the defeat, they will one day bounce back.

    Having a couple of viable broadly based options to vote for coming from just each side of centrist should be the ideal though. We shouldn’t have to keep repeating the game of one party running itself into a cul de sac so that the other wins largely by default despite having glaring deficiencies in its offer.
    The Tories need to hive off the wing nuts as do Labour and take us back to a 60s/70s dynamic. There is room for Reform and the WPB/A Corbyn vehicle to take the odd seat and represent the not inconsequential strands of thought therein whilst the centre fights for government. A destroyed Tory party becomes problematic once we consider what replaces it
    Lovely to have you back. However I am baffled as to how you see the widely acknowledged decline of the UK during the post-war consensus period as a desirable model for future political developments. It takes all sorts I guess.
    Indeed the 60s and 70s "consensus" was a pretty reactionary one. Both main parties were socially way to the right even of the Tories today. Most children left school in their mid teens and higher education was for a tiny elite. We heated our homes with coal and drove dirty cars that belched toxic fumes into the air. River water quality made today's sewage releases seem like minor pooey trickles. Health and safety records in some workplaces were dire. Houses were cheap I suppose. But aside from house prices not super-keen to have that era back.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,984

    Odd video. Is it actually aimed primarily at a US audience? It does seem like something the GoP would put out with the message 'What Labour did over there the Democrats are about to do over here' and ending with a picture if Khan and Biden in a smiling embrace. I don't get it.

    Made I assume by youngsters immersed via TikTok in the US culture wars and assuming they will play well here (which they may do, in some quarters).
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,368

    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    https://pro.morningconsult.com/trackers/2024-presidential-election-polling

    B 43
    T 42

    Interestingly (maybe) both now have the same net favourability 46/51 (-5)

    This graph shows an interesting trend. Undecided s and Independents making up their minds?



    yes, it's slow(ish) progress for Biden but the trend is certainly there.
    I am a bit sceptical of US polls as they do seem much less transparent than UK polls.
    I have no idea what you are talking about...............


    The Gold Standard.

    An authoritative declaration of Trump 20 points ahead on no more evidence than a blade of grass in the breeze. Most impressive!
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,274
    It's just getting embarrassing now isn't it? Maybe the Tories should get rid of Sunak and install Penny?

    Could it actually get any worse?
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 17,214

    Odd video. Is it actually aimed primarily at a US audience? It does seem like something the GoP would put out with the message 'What Labour did over there the Democrats are about to do over here' and ending with a picture if Khan and Biden in a smiling embrace. I don't get it.

    Occam's Razor says it's been produced by nitwits.

    There have been a few attempts at viral material by the Conservative social media team that have just fallen flat recently.

    Basically, that kind of shitposting is surprisingly hard to get right- just offensive enough without overreaching. And unlike 2019, the Conservatives don't seem to have the first rate shitposters working for them. Well, why would anyone work for them?
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,412
    ...
    TimS said:

    ToryJim said:

    Heathener said:

    I’m rather impressed by @TSE at the moment.

    The only downside is that if people like him stick around in the Party after the defeat, they will one day bounce back.

    Having a couple of viable broadly based options to vote for coming from just each side of centrist should be the ideal though. We shouldn’t have to keep repeating the game of one party running itself into a cul de sac so that the other wins largely by default despite having glaring deficiencies in its offer.
    The Tories need to hive off the wing nuts as do Labour and take us back to a 60s/70s dynamic. There is room for Reform and the WPB/A Corbyn vehicle to take the odd seat and represent the not inconsequential strands of thought therein whilst the centre fights for government. A destroyed Tory party becomes problematic once we consider what replaces it
    Lovely to have you back. However I am baffled as to how you see the widely acknowledged decline of the UK during the post-war consensus period as a desirable model for future political developments. It takes all sorts I guess.
    Indeed the 60s and 70s "consensus" was a pretty reactionary one. Both main parties were socially way to the right even of the Tories today. Most children left school in their mid teens and higher education was for a tiny elite. We heated our homes with coal and drove dirty cars that belched toxic fumes into the air. River water quality made today's sewage releases seem like minor pooey trickles. Health and safety records in some workplaces were dire. Houses were cheap I suppose. But aside from house prices not super-keen to have that era back.
    I see it as a grim period of hugely damaging socialist consensus (as I am sure you realise and are gently mocking). Our creativity was still at play, and much of the legacy economy was intact, so we still had things like the Beatles, the mini cooper, the Raleigh Chopper, etc. making a great contribution to our economy. But it would have gone, and indeed with a return to social democracy (in combination with orthodox laissez faire when dealing with foreign takeovers) much of it has.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479

    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    https://pro.morningconsult.com/trackers/2024-presidential-election-polling

    B 43
    T 42

    Interestingly (maybe) both now have the same net favourability 46/51 (-5)

    This graph shows an interesting trend. Undecided s and Independents making up their minds?



    yes, it's slow(ish) progress for Biden but the trend is certainly there.
    I am a bit sceptical of US polls as they do seem much less transparent than UK polls.
    I have no idea what you are talking about...............


    The Gold Standard.

    An authoritative declaration of Trump 20 points ahead on no more evidence than a blade of grass in the breeze. Most impressive!
    Robert Cahaly is considered by the wise to be the greatest political figure of our times.

    You might call Trafalgar Polls the Gold Standard, but this somewhat underplays their significance.

    They are more accurate than elections themselves, the hive mind of the electorate.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,549

    ...

    TimS said:

    ToryJim said:

    Heathener said:

    I’m rather impressed by @TSE at the moment.

    The only downside is that if people like him stick around in the Party after the defeat, they will one day bounce back.

    Having a couple of viable broadly based options to vote for coming from just each side of centrist should be the ideal though. We shouldn’t have to keep repeating the game of one party running itself into a cul de sac so that the other wins largely by default despite having glaring deficiencies in its offer.
    The Tories need to hive off the wing nuts as do Labour and take us back to a 60s/70s dynamic. There is room for Reform and the WPB/A Corbyn vehicle to take the odd seat and represent the not inconsequential strands of thought therein whilst the centre fights for government. A destroyed Tory party becomes problematic once we consider what replaces it
    Lovely to have you back. However I am baffled as to how you see the widely acknowledged decline of the UK during the post-war consensus period as a desirable model for future political developments. It takes all sorts I guess.
    Indeed the 60s and 70s "consensus" was a pretty reactionary one. Both main parties were socially way to the right even of the Tories today. Most children left school in their mid teens and higher education was for a tiny elite. We heated our homes with coal and drove dirty cars that belched toxic fumes into the air. River water quality made today's sewage releases seem like minor pooey trickles. Health and safety records in some workplaces were dire. Houses were cheap I suppose. But aside from house prices not super-keen to have that era back.
    I see it as a grim period of hugely damaging socialist consensus (as I am sure you realise and are gently mocking). Our creativity was still at play, and much of the legacy economy was intact, so we still had things like the Beatles, the mini cooper, the Raleigh Chopper, etc. making a great contribution to our economy. But it would have gone, and indeed with a return to social democracy (in combination with orthodox laissez faire when dealing with foreign takeovers) much of it has.
    Yes, comrade.
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,375
    GIN1138 said:

    It's just getting embarrassing now isn't it? Maybe the Tories should get rid of Sunak and install Penny?

    Could it actually get any worse?

    Yes, I think so. They seem to be keeping Susan Hall under wraps for now.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    GIN1138 said:

    It's just getting embarrassing now isn't it? Maybe the Tories should get rid of Sunak and install Penny?

    Could it actually get any worse?

    She could market herself as the ultimate 1950s Tory Woman. Penny in a pinny making jam and chutney for hard working fellas. Martha Stewart with amazing hair.
    Bank the Lads' Dads vote
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,061
    A judge finally calls time on delays.

    The judge presiding over Trump's NY criminal case REFUSES to budge from his order forcing lawyers to ask his okay to file any more motions.

    He also WARNS Trump's lawyers to obey that order, citing his "power to punish for a criminal contempt."

    https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1772678396574601570
  • In my view, Biden will be leading comfortably by September.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,368

    Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    https://pro.morningconsult.com/trackers/2024-presidential-election-polling

    B 43
    T 42

    Interestingly (maybe) both now have the same net favourability 46/51 (-5)

    This graph shows an interesting trend. Undecided s and Independents making up their minds?



    yes, it's slow(ish) progress for Biden but the trend is certainly there.
    I am a bit sceptical of US polls as they do seem much less transparent than UK polls.
    I have no idea what you are talking about...............


    The Gold Standard.

    An authoritative declaration of Trump 20 points ahead on no more evidence than a blade of grass in the breeze. Most impressive!
    Robert Cahaly is considered by the wise to be the greatest political figure of our times.

    You might call Trafalgar Polls the Gold Standard, but this somewhat underplays their significance.

    They are more accurate than elections themselves, the hive mind of the electorate.
    A little like my GE2025 prediction. Inch -perfection accuracy by me, but a probable error by the failing electorate.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,897
    edited March 26
    'Trumps shares soar...." What's all that about?

    Edit-His media shares float at $9 billion!
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,708
    Trump's shares in Truth Social are worth over $5billion !
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,865
    How Republicans learnt to love bigger government
    A growing body on the right now believe that Medicare and other programmes must not be cut at all

    https://www.ft.com/content/b17c31d4-8da3-42c9-8c8a-7e06dad9cf15 (£££)

    No great surprise. GWB was a big-government president. The main thesis appears to be that middle class Republicans and working class Democrats have switched teams.

    There is a telling aside about GOP budget-slasher Paul Ryan:-

    The budget cutting championed by former Speaker of the House of Representatives Paul Ryan no longer has an obvious constituency.

    That’s no great loss. When Ryan retired at the start of 2019, after two years of unified Republican control of Congress and the White House, at the peak of the longest economic expansion on record, he left behind a deficit for the fiscal year in progress that would approach $1tn.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    Roger said:

    'Trumps shares soar...." What's all that about?

    Donald is following the PT Barnum playbook
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 8,375

    In my view, Biden will be leading comfortably by September.

    I just watched Biden give quite a long statement on the Baltimore Bridge accident. He was coherent, sharp, clear and sensible. Rumours of his demise into senility are overstated, I think.
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    New Jersey Globe - With Murphy out of the race, Kim still supports ending the county line

    With First Lady Tammy Murphy exiting the race for U.S. Senate this afternoon, a spokesperson for Rep. Andy Kim (D-Moorestown) – now the heavy favorite for the Democratic nomination to succeed indicted Senator Bob Menendez – said that the congressman still supports ending the county line, the ballot design system that had been set to give a major advantage to Murphy. . . .

    Last month, Kim had filed a lawsuit seeking to abolish the county line, which gives party-endorsed candidates preferential placement on primary ballots. The lawsuit was heavily based around the immediate harm Kim would have faced in his upcoming election against Murphy; now that Murphy is out of the race and that immediate harm has dissipated, it’s not clear what will happen to the suit.

    U.S. District Judge Zahid Quraishi heard Kim’s arguments last week and has not yet issued a ruling. Importantly, the lawsuit also included two other plaintiffs, congressional candidates Sarah Schoengood and Carolyn Rush, whose own campaigns and legal arguments are unaffected by Murphy’s departure.

    Kim is now set to run on every county line statewide, including in the ten counties where the local county party had endorsed Murphy; a number of pro-Murphy county chairs have already confirmed they’re with Kim. That will leave fellow Democratic Senate candidates Larry Hamm and Patricia Campos-Medina, who had joined Kim in calling for the line to be abolished, out in the cold. . . .

    https://newjerseyglobe.com/congress/with-murphy-out-of-the-race-kim-still-supports-ending-the-county-line/

    SSI - Rather snide tone re: Andy Kim, implying (despite his statement) that the Congressman is somewhat ambivalent re: NJ's infamous "county line" party primary ballot slating system, by which candidates endorsed by county party organizations get preferential placement at top of ballot.

    WHICH is explained, when you discover that "New Jersey Globe" is "founder and editor in chief".

    And who(m) you ask, is David Wildstein? According to his wiki bio, he

    served as a senior official in the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey during the administration of New Jersey Governor Chris Christie until 2013, when Wildstein resigned in the midst of a scandal involving traffic lanes closures. On May 1, 2015, he pleaded guilty to two federal felony counts of conspiracy as part of a plea agreement, but his conviction was later overturned.

    SSI - In other words, a Chris Christie crony & co-phoney with their own axes to grind - and interests to serve - in the swamp that is New Jersey politics.

    Which Andy Kim is working hard to drain!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Wildstein

    SSI - My guess, and also hope, is that Kim & fellow plaintiffs will prevail in federal court, striking down this "county line" crapola.

  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,897
    The bastard's rich again!
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,239
    Go, the Donald

    Now he’s got the money to fuck over Biden

    Eyes down!
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    Just saw a comment that it might be 4 to 5 years to sort out the Baltimore debacle, and that the US is effectively divided along the Mason Dixon line again
  • eekeek Posts: 28,366
    Roger said:

    'Trumps shares soar...." What's all that about?

    Edit-His media shares float at $9 billion!

    Share prices are set at the margin - so it doesn't take much to massively increase the price if few shares are sold...
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559

    GIN1138 said:

    It's just getting embarrassing now isn't it? Maybe the Tories should get rid of Sunak and install Penny?

    Could it actually get any worse?

    Yes, I think so. They seem to be keeping Susan Hall under wraps for now.
    Nearly ninety years ago, during a political brouhaha in Louisiana, allies of then-embattled Gov. Huey Long aka The Kingfish, hustled an inconvenient politico off to a remote fishing camp on an off-shore island in the Gulf of Mexico.

    So Where's Susan? Rockall? South Shetlands?

    Thought I hear Pitcairn is lovely this time of year . . .
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,239
    edited March 26
    You have to admire Trump for his sheer, unsquashable chutzpah

    Just never gives up. Always bounces back. Proper ornery American remember-the-Alamo never-say-die irrepressiblissimo
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,479
    Leon said:

    You have to admire Trump for his sheer, unsquashable chutzpah

    Just never gives up. Always bounces back. Proper ornery American remember-the-Alamo never-say-die irrepressiblissimo

    Arse-licker.
  • sbjme19sbjme19 Posts: 194

    Unfortunately this thread is another example of fake news. Boris Johnson doesn't have allies in the prural. Just Nadine.

    Nope, meet Dame Andrea Jenkyns.
    And to show this isn't confined to women, one Conor Burns.
    "I'm sure he'll come back one day."
  • MJWMJW Posts: 1,728
    On topic, the Tories have only gone and screwed up again.
    https://twitter.com/KevinASchofield/status/1772689411475484691
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,275
    They really need to start forced sterilization of Trump supporters . Their continued polluting of the US gene pool needs to end .
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,239

    Leon said:

    You have to admire Trump for his sheer, unsquashable chutzpah

    Just never gives up. Always bounces back. Proper ornery American remember-the-Alamo never-say-die irrepressiblissimo

    Arse-licker.
    He’s one of the great men of our time. History will be kinder than PB
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,213
    eek said:

    Roger said:

    'Trumps shares soar...." What's all that about?

    Edit-His media shares float at $9 billion!

    Share prices are set at the margin - so it doesn't take much to massively increase the price if few shares are sold...
    Which is one reason for the practise of not selling, but borrowing money against shares you hold, as a method of extracting cash.
  • No_Offence_AlanNo_Offence_Alan Posts: 4,513
    geoffw said:

    Trump's shares in Truth Social are worth over $5billion !

    So he will have no trouble selling a few to raise his bond money for the courts then?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,603
    MJW said:

    On topic, the Tories have only gone and screwed up again.
    https://twitter.com/KevinASchofield/status/1772689411475484691

    The worst thing about these ads is the American voiceover.
  • logical_songlogical_song Posts: 9,913
    Does that half seen wording read 'BRONX' ?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,627
    edited March 26

    Just saw a comment that it might be 4 to 5 years to sort out the Baltimore debacle, and that the US is effectively divided along the Mason Dixon line again

    That's a but over egging it. The fallen bridge is from one side of Baltimore to the other. There are more bridges and the Mason Dixon line is further north on the Maryland Pennsylvania border.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,213
    nico679 said:

    They really need to start forced sterilization of Trump supporters . Their continued polluting of the US gene pool needs to end .

    "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."
  • logical_songlogical_song Posts: 9,913
    Leon said:

    You have to admire Trump for his sheer, unsquashable chutzpah

    Just never gives up. Always bounces back. Proper ornery American remember-the-Alamo never-say-die irrepressiblissimo

    Dementia Don?
  • boulayboulay Posts: 5,486

    Leon said:

    You have to admire Trump for his sheer, unsquashable chutzpah

    Just never gives up. Always bounces back. Proper ornery American remember-the-Alamo never-say-die irrepressiblissimo

    Arse-licker.
    You mock but in 20 years time when Generalisimo Trump asks Governor Farage of the occupied territories of Englandshire who goes to the work camps and who gets to join the new 10k and receive ten shares in Truth Social, Leon will be the one laughing.
  • No_Offence_AlanNo_Offence_Alan Posts: 4,513
    Leon said:

    Go, the Donald

    Now he’s got the money to fuck over Biden

    Eyes down!

    No, he will pocket the dosh. His MAGA saps will still have to fund the campaign, and some of that will end up going to Trump too.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 11,782
    Leon said:

    You have to admire Trump for his sheer, unsquashable chutzpah

    Just never gives up. Always bounces back. Proper ornery American remember-the-Alamo never-say-die irrepressiblissimo

    You are admiring a crook and conman, which isn't admirable. The business has only a few hundred million in assets and its only product makes a significant loss. It is a con. Lots will lose a fortune when it collapses. Presumably Trump hopes to be out by then having sold his shares to the gullible.

    He isn't admirable. He should be in jail. Nothing to admire here at all.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,239
    Foxy said:

    Just saw a comment that it might be 4 to 5 years to sort out the Baltimore debacle, and that the US is effectively divided along the Mason Dixon line again

    That's a but over egging it. The fallen bridge is from one side of Baltimore to the other. There are more bridges and the Mason Dixon line is further north on the Maryland Pennsylvania border.
    The Mason Dixon line extends for many hundreds of miles

    There’s a couple of bridges over the Ohio River and the Line at Cincinnati which, AFAIK, are fine
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    Foxy said:

    Just saw a comment that it might be 4 to 5 years to sort out the Baltimore debacle, and that the US is effectively divided along the Mason Dixon line again

    That's a but over egging it. The fallen bridge is from one side of Baltimore to the other. There are more bridges and the Mason Dixon line is further north on the Maryland Pennsylvania border.
    Yeah I think the comment was illustrative rather than absolute, although thus bridge is apparently a critical carrier of toxic materials so its loss will have a profound effect
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,603
    nico679 said:

    They really need to start forced sterilization of Trump supporters . Their continued polluting of the US gene pool needs to end .

    Eugenics was a popular idea on the left.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,814
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    You have to admire Trump for his sheer, unsquashable chutzpah

    Just never gives up. Always bounces back. Proper ornery American remember-the-Alamo never-say-die irrepressiblissimo

    Arse-licker.
    He’s one of the great men of our time. History will be kinder than PB
    Dirty Donald!
  • logical_songlogical_song Posts: 9,913

    geoffw said:

    Trump's shares in Truth Social are worth over $5billion !

    So he will have no trouble selling a few to raise his bond money for the courts then?
    Can't sell them for 6 months, by then they will be junk.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,620
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    You have to admire Trump for his sheer, unsquashable chutzpah

    Just never gives up. Always bounces back. Proper ornery American remember-the-Alamo never-say-die irrepressiblissimo

    Arse-licker.
    He’s one of the great men of our time. History will be kinder than PB
    I cannot imagine why you admire the self confessed pussy grabber.
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    MJW said:

    On topic, the Tories have only gone and screwed up again.
    https://twitter.com/KevinASchofield/status/1772689411475484691

    Birmingham, Alabama?
  • kamskikamski Posts: 5,189
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    You have to admire Trump for his sheer, unsquashable chutzpah

    Just never gives up. Always bounces back. Proper ornery American remember-the-Alamo never-say-die irrepressiblissimo

    Arse-licker.
    He’s one of the great men of our time. History will be kinder than PB
    What about that other shithead you admire so much - Putin?

    Have you never stopped to wonder what trauma you went through that makes you admire these shitheads, or is it just that you are a shithead yourself?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,239
    kamski said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    You have to admire Trump for his sheer, unsquashable chutzpah

    Just never gives up. Always bounces back. Proper ornery American remember-the-Alamo never-say-die irrepressiblissimo

    Arse-licker.
    He’s one of the great men of our time. History will be kinder than PB
    What about that other shithead you admire so much - Putin?

    Have you never stopped to wonder what trauma you went through that makes you admire these shitheads, or is it just that you are a shithead yourself?
    Yes, Trump has his flaws but he will be seen as a kind of Bolivar in the future, guiding his nation - nay, the nations - with a raptor’s vision and the stealth of the tawny caracal
  • SirNorfolkPassmoreSirNorfolkPassmore Posts: 7,149
    edited March 26

    In my view, Biden will be leading comfortably by September.

    I just watched Biden give quite a long statement on the Baltimore Bridge accident. He was coherent, sharp, clear and sensible. Rumours of his demise into senility are overstated, I think.
    They are, but Trump and his acolytes have formed a narrative that means whenever Biden has any kind of stumble, he's a senile old fool, whereas whenever Trump does so (which is far more often) he's being free-wheelin' Don. Unfortunately, they have done so quite effectively in a way that has an impact beyond Trump's base.
  • geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,708

    geoffw said:

    Trump's shares in Truth Social are worth over $5billion !

    So he will have no trouble selling a few to raise his bond money for the courts then?
    Let's see how quickly they fall when he does

  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,814
    Leon said:

    kamski said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    You have to admire Trump for his sheer, unsquashable chutzpah

    Just never gives up. Always bounces back. Proper ornery American remember-the-Alamo never-say-die irrepressiblissimo

    Arse-licker.
    He’s one of the great men of our time. History will be kinder than PB
    What about that other shithead you admire so much - Putin?

    Have you never stopped to wonder what trauma you went through that makes you admire these shitheads, or is it just that you are a shithead yourself?
    Yes, Trump has his flaws but he will be seen as a kind of Bolivar in the future, guiding his nation - nay, the nations - with a raptor’s vision and the stealth of the tawny caracal
    Dodgy Donald!
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,239
    mwadams said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    You have to admire Trump for his sheer, unsquashable chutzpah

    Just never gives up. Always bounces back. Proper ornery American remember-the-Alamo never-say-die irrepressiblissimo

    Arse-licker.
    He’s one of the great men of our time. History will be kinder than PB
    My guess is that you are traveling and bored and seeing who you can wind up. My follow up prediction is that you will succeed in this goal.
    I got five in one go. @kamski @tse @kjh @logical_song and possibly @Sunil_Prasannan

    Not bad!
  • logical_songlogical_song Posts: 9,913
    Leon said:

    kamski said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    You have to admire Trump for his sheer, unsquashable chutzpah

    Just never gives up. Always bounces back. Proper ornery American remember-the-Alamo never-say-die irrepressiblissimo

    Arse-licker.
    He’s one of the great men of our time. History will be kinder than PB
    What about that other shithead you admire so much - Putin?

    Have you never stopped to wonder what trauma you went through that makes you admire these shitheads, or is it just that you are a shithead yourself?
    Yes, Trump has his flaws but he will be seen as a kind of Bolivar in the future, guiding his nation - nay, the nations - with a raptor’s vision and the stealth of the tawny caracal
    Did Bolivar suffer from dementia?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkjH8uFtdO4
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,239
    kamski said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    You have to admire Trump for his sheer, unsquashable chutzpah

    Just never gives up. Always bounces back. Proper ornery American remember-the-Alamo never-say-die irrepressiblissimo

    Arse-licker.
    He’s one of the great men of our time. History will be kinder than PB
    What about that other shithead you admire so much - Putin?

    Have you never stopped to wonder what trauma you went through that makes you admire these shitheads, or is it just that you are a shithead yourself?
    lol

    It’s the blood vessel bursting ANGER that truly entertains me
  • logical_songlogical_song Posts: 9,913
    Leon said:

    mwadams said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    You have to admire Trump for his sheer, unsquashable chutzpah

    Just never gives up. Always bounces back. Proper ornery American remember-the-Alamo never-say-die irrepressiblissimo

    Arse-licker.
    He’s one of the great men of our time. History will be kinder than PB
    My guess is that you are traveling and bored and seeing who you can wind up. My follow up prediction is that you will succeed in this goal.
    I got five in one go. @kamski @tse @kjh @logical_song and possibly @Sunil_Prasannan

    Not bad!
    Nah, mine was just checking you meant *Dementia* Don.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 10,061
    Wragg trying another motion to get Hoyle referred to the privileges committee
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    . . . multiple Lines of Discredit . . .

    AP (via Seattle Times) - Trump is selling ‘God Bless the USA’ Bibles for $59.99 as he faces mounting legal bills

    Former President Donald Trump is now selling Bibles as he runs to return to the White House.

    Trump, who became the presumptive Republican nominee earlier this month, released a video on his Truth Social platform on Tuesday urging his supporters to buy the “God Bless the USA Bible,” which is inspired by country singer Lee Greenwood’s patriotic ballad. Trump takes the stage to the song at each of his rallies and has appeared with Greenwood at events.

    “Happy Holy Week! Let’s Make America Pray Again. As we lead into Good Friday and Easter, I encourage you to get a copy of the God Bless the USA Bible,” Trump wrote, directing his supporters to a website selling the book for $59.99. . . .
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,239

    Leon said:

    mwadams said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    You have to admire Trump for his sheer, unsquashable chutzpah

    Just never gives up. Always bounces back. Proper ornery American remember-the-Alamo never-say-die irrepressiblissimo

    Arse-licker.
    He’s one of the great men of our time. History will be kinder than PB
    My guess is that you are traveling and bored and seeing who you can wind up. My follow up prediction is that you will succeed in this goal.
    I got five in one go. @kamski @tse @kjh @logical_song and possibly @Sunil_Prasannan

    Not bad!
    Nah, mine was just checking you meant *Dementia* Don.
    Hmm. I’ll put you down as a maybe

    I actually managed to thrombose one of @kamski’s haemorrhoids, which is pretty impressive given that I am in Bogotá and he is in arsenficken, Bavaria
  • kjhkjh Posts: 11,782
    Leon said:

    mwadams said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    You have to admire Trump for his sheer, unsquashable chutzpah

    Just never gives up. Always bounces back. Proper ornery American remember-the-Alamo never-say-die irrepressiblissimo

    Arse-licker.
    He’s one of the great men of our time. History will be kinder than PB
    My guess is that you are traveling and bored and seeing who you can wind up. My follow up prediction is that you will succeed in this goal.
    I got five in one go. @kamski @tse @kjh @logical_song and possibly @Sunil_Prasannan

    Not bad!
    Ok, give you that one. Well done..
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,814
    Leon said:

    mwadams said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    You have to admire Trump for his sheer, unsquashable chutzpah

    Just never gives up. Always bounces back. Proper ornery American remember-the-Alamo never-say-die irrepressiblissimo

    Arse-licker.
    He’s one of the great men of our time. History will be kinder than PB
    My guess is that you are traveling and bored and seeing who you can wind up. My follow up prediction is that you will succeed in this goal.
    I got five in one go. @kamski @tse @kjh @logical_song and possibly @Sunil_Prasannan

    Not bad!
    Dick-head Donald!
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