The Prince of Wales has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter, Kensington Palace has said.
William had been due to attend a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece at Windsor Castle.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continues to be doing well.
The Prince of Wales called the Greek royal family who are attending the service to let them know he was unable to attend.
The late King Constantine of Greece, who died in January last year, was William's godfather.
I'm not convinced that the King's cancer is trivial - I think it might be rather serious. No evidence, just a gut feel.
No idea of what was wrong with Catherine (hysterectomy would be likely?) but its concerning that her recovery seems a bit slow.
I fear you could be right
The fact he was reported as weeping at the "get well" letters is concerning. We can't afford to lose more royals. Eeek
I've never liked the chap. He's always struck me as profoundly thick, and I've had a story related from a colleague who knew one of his tutors who said the same. But he had to wait an age for his 'turn', and only got it with loss of his mother, and may well be about to go too, so he has my sympathies.
But you know, there are plenty more Royals. Wills and Kat knocked out an heir and two spares, and there is always Andrew...
Well, there are a few people I don't particularly like, but I wouldn't shrug off the news that they had a horrible form of terminal cancer. It's a terrible fate for them and devastating for their families.
No-one deserves that. Not your worst enemy.
I wish him a full recovery.
Same, he’s a husband, father, grandfather, brother, uncle etc.
Whose had enormous wealth and privilege his whole life - I don't know him neither do I particularly need to care what kind of bum cancer he does or doesn't have that will shuffle him off this mortal coil like everyone else.
I find it funny that the whole "well you have to remember they're a human being" argument gets trotted out when people with immense wealth or power are dying and some people aren't arse licking on their way out, but when people are homeless or are fleeing a country and just trying to survive or are being bombed to death that is met by a mere shrug. People crossing the channel are husbands, fathers, mothers, daughters etc. but on any day here you can probably find someone who would cheer their boat sinking and demand them to be flogged if they did make it to our soil.
Here's hoping something is seriously wrong with Chaz and Wills, so we enter the funniest timeline of King George and Prince Regent Harry or Prince Regent Andrew.
You are wishing serious ill-health and death on fairly blameless human beings. Chas and Wills are not Vlad Putin
That crosses a line and you should apologise and withdraw, before you get moderated
Lol, no. I don't care if monarchs croak, why should I?
Because you make yourself look like a jerk?
Right - because my self worth comes from the opinions of PBers. I find some of the conversation here interesting, although I find much more of it hugely confusing if somewhat enlightening on what and how right wingers think, but I don't really care if people here think I am a bad person for not caring if the king or the prince of wales die.
Nonetheless, you now look like a total jerk. So well done you
I would say he's a deeply unpleasant individual, but I think that'd be unfair: he hasn't grown up yet.
He gives every impression of being a precocious teenager who read some Marx at the age of fifteen, topped up by a sprinkling of Chomsky in Sixth Form, and has since set his philosophy by it to the point it's defined his identity.
He been able to indulge in this ever since because he lives the life of a fairly typical privileged bien pensant left-winger - living in a house provided gratis by his Dad, and working in a cosseted academic bubble - so he's never had to revisit his assumptions, and simply proclaims them ever more loudly and angrily when they are challenged, usually with a lot of turgid verbiage.
One sort of feels sorry for him, really.
I did wonder what he would make of some of my families (both sides) attitudes towards Communists, deaths of Communists and jokes thereof.
It won't be the same, according to the Continued Identity Theory:
"This solution (proposed by Kate, Ernest et al.) sees an object as staying the same as long as it continuously exists under the same identity, and it is never fully transformed at the same time. For instance, a house, whose front wall is destroyed and replaced at year 1, the ceiling replaced at year 2, et cætera until every part of the house has been replaced. The house will still be designated as being the same. However, if every wall, the floor and the ceiling are destroyed and replaced at the same time, it will be known as a new house."
Do Labour deny the policy changes they plan? After we finally limit the flow of immigration with Sunak's new limits, is Starmer going to open the flood gates again?
We've not seen the flow of immigration limited yet. The Tories frequently promise things on immigration that don't happen. The flood gates are at a record level of openness under the Tories.
I will be surprised if immigration in 2025 under a new Labour government isn't lower than 2023's figure.
Yes, because 2023 was a spike because of Hong Kongers and Ukrainians. The new income thresholds aren't a promise, they have been enacted into policy and will come live in April. Labour will open the floodgates again and it will be worse every year. And it won't be skilled, educated Hong Kongers. It will be arranged brides from the Indian subcontinent.
Yes, 2022-3 are probably going to turn out to be a spike, for those reasons and more.
The new income thresholds are real. It's a promise that the policy will achieve its aims.
I see nothing (credible) to suggest that "Labour will open the floodgates". Immigration from India has increased hugely over the course of the last 14 years of Conservative governance, so if that concerns you, don't vote Conservative.
Bad decision. It wasn't listed (as opposed to listing), and it owners should be free to do what they want with their property and land, subject to the established rights of others, environmental regs etc.
“I’m getting sick and tired of hearing about morality, our moral obligation... There’s a point where you are incapable of meeting moral obligations that exist worldwide.”
The Prince of Wales has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter, Kensington Palace has said.
William had been due to attend a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece at Windsor Castle.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continues to be doing well.
The Prince of Wales called the Greek royal family who are attending the service to let them know he was unable to attend.
The late King Constantine of Greece, who died in January last year, was William's godfather.
I'm not convinced that the King's cancer is trivial - I think it might be rather serious. No evidence, just a gut feel.
No idea of what was wrong with Catherine (hysterectomy would be likely?) but its concerning that her recovery seems a bit slow.
I fear you could be right
The fact he was reported as weeping at the "get well" letters is concerning. We can't afford to lose more royals. Eeek
I've never liked the chap. He's always struck me as profoundly thick, and I've had a story related from a colleague who knew one of his tutors who said the same. But he had to wait an age for his 'turn', and only got it with loss of his mother, and may well be about to go too, so he has my sympathies.
But you know, there are plenty more Royals. Wills and Kat knocked out an heir and two spares, and there is always Andrew...
Well, there are a few people I don't particularly like, but I wouldn't shrug off the news that they had a horrible form of terminal cancer. It's a terrible fate for them and devastating for their families.
No-one deserves that. Not your worst enemy.
I wish him a full recovery.
Same, he’s a husband, father, grandfather, brother, uncle etc.
Whose had enormous wealth and privilege his whole life - I don't know him neither do I particularly need to care what kind of bum cancer he does or doesn't have that will shuffle him off this mortal coil like everyone else.
I find it funny that the whole "well you have to remember they're a human being" argument gets trotted out when people with immense wealth or power are dying and some people aren't arse licking on their way out, but when people are homeless or are fleeing a country and just trying to survive or are being bombed to death that is met by a mere shrug. People crossing the channel are husbands, fathers, mothers, daughters etc. but on any day here you can probably find someone who would cheer their boat sinking and demand them to be flogged if they did make it to our soil.
Here's hoping something is seriously wrong with Chaz and Wills, so we enter the funniest timeline of King George and Prince Regent Harry or Prince Regent Andrew.
You are wishing serious ill-health and death on fairly blameless human beings. Chas and Wills are not Vlad Putin
That crosses a line and you should apologise and withdraw, before you get moderated
Lol, no. I don't care if monarchs croak, why should I?
Because you make yourself look like a jerk?
Right - because my self worth comes from the opinions of PBers. I find some of the conversation here interesting, although I find much more of it hugely confusing if somewhat enlightening on what and how right wingers think, but I don't really care if people here think I am a bad person for not caring if the king or the prince of wales die.
Nonetheless, you now look like a total jerk. So well done you
I would say he's a deeply unpleasant individual, but I think that'd be unfair: he hasn't grown up yet.
He gives every impression of being a precocious teenager who read some Marx at the age of fifteen, topped up by a sprinkling of Chomsky in Sixth Form, and has since set his philosophy by it to the point it's defined his identity.
He been able to indulge in this ever since because he lives the life of a fairly typical privileged bien pensant left-winger - living in a house provided gratis by his Dad, and working in a cosseted academic bubble - so he's never had to revisit his assumptions, and simply proclaims them ever more loudly and angrily when they are challenged, usually with a lot of turgid verbiage.
One sort of feels sorry for him, really.
Apparently the guy who treatened me to a fist fight in the honour of his maj wants to talk about my loud and angry words. Is this how your therapist suggested you deal with the urge to "take this outside" - create a fantasy that means you can contain the anger rather than act on it? I personally prefer therapies that take aim at the causes of things, but sometimes what Pratchett calls "headology" works.
I love how the whole "I live in a house my Dad owns" thing has become a tale of the inherent wealth and privilege I have an not an outcome of my mother's death and years of me fighting with my dad about not treating it like a tomb to her memory - which included the best part of a year of my life when I was literally homeless and sofa surfing because I refused to move back in with him and couldn't go elsewhere - but hey ho, here's what comes of brevity.
The Prince of Wales has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter, Kensington Palace has said.
William had been due to attend a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece at Windsor Castle.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continues to be doing well.
The Prince of Wales called the Greek royal family who are attending the service to let them know he was unable to attend.
The late King Constantine of Greece, who died in January last year, was William's godfather.
I'm not convinced that the King's cancer is trivial - I think it might be rather serious. No evidence, just a gut feel.
No idea of what was wrong with Catherine (hysterectomy would be likely?) but its concerning that her recovery seems a bit slow.
I fear you could be right
The fact he was reported as weeping at the "get well" letters is concerning. We can't afford to lose more royals. Eeek
I've never liked the chap. He's always struck me as profoundly thick, and I've had a story related from a colleague who knew one of his tutors who said the same. But he had to wait an age for his 'turn', and only got it with loss of his mother, and may well be about to go too, so he has my sympathies.
But you know, there are plenty more Royals. Wills and Kat knocked out an heir and two spares, and there is always Andrew...
Well, there are a few people I don't particularly like, but I wouldn't shrug off the news that they had a horrible form of terminal cancer. It's a terrible fate for them and devastating for their families.
No-one deserves that. Not your worst enemy.
I wish him a full recovery.
Same, he’s a husband, father, grandfather, brother, uncle etc.
Whose had enormous wealth and privilege his whole life - I don't know him neither do I particularly need to care what kind of bum cancer he does or doesn't have that will shuffle him off this mortal coil like everyone else.
I find it funny that the whole "well you have to remember they're a human being" argument gets trotted out when people with immense wealth or power are dying and some people aren't arse licking on their way out, but when people are homeless or are fleeing a country and just trying to survive or are being bombed to death that is met by a mere shrug. People crossing the channel are husbands, fathers, mothers, daughters etc. but on any day here you can probably find someone who would cheer their boat sinking and demand them to be flogged if they did make it to our soil.
Here's hoping something is seriously wrong with Chaz and Wills, so we enter the funniest timeline of King George and Prince Regent Harry or Prince Regent Andrew.
You are wishing serious ill-health and death on fairly blameless human beings. Chas and Wills are not Vlad Putin
That crosses a line and you should apologise and withdraw, before you get moderated
Lol, no. I don't care if monarchs croak, why should I?
Because you make yourself look like a jerk?
Right - because my self worth comes from the opinions of PBers. I find some of the conversation here interesting, although I find much more of it hugely confusing if somewhat enlightening on what and how right wingers think, but I don't really care if people here think I am a bad person for not caring if the king or the prince of wales die.
You think PB is a den of right wingers? Maybe review your own position on the scale!
Bad decision. It wasn't listed (as opposed to listing), and it owners should be free to do what they want with their property and land, subject to the established rights of others, environmental regs etc.
They probably needed permission or a permit to demolish the gutted structure.
The Prince of Wales has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter, Kensington Palace has said.
William had been due to attend a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece at Windsor Castle.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continues to be doing well.
The Prince of Wales called the Greek royal family who are attending the service to let them know he was unable to attend.
The late King Constantine of Greece, who died in January last year, was William's godfather.
I'm not convinced that the King's cancer is trivial - I think it might be rather serious. No evidence, just a gut feel.
No idea of what was wrong with Catherine (hysterectomy would be likely?) but its concerning that her recovery seems a bit slow.
Couldn't possibly have been a hysterectomy - if done laparoscopically, that's day surgery or overnight at most. Even with open surgery, she'd have been home in four or five days.
But Catherine was in hospital for 13 days!
The most likely things which could explain a stay of that length are a bowel resection with major complications, or a liver transplant.
My wife had a hysterectomy in 1979 and was in hospital for 2 weeks and took months to recover having been plunged into immediate menopause
Any hysterectomy is major surgery and needs a long recovery period even without the menopause
The Prince of Wales has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter, Kensington Palace has said.
William had been due to attend a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece at Windsor Castle.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continues to be doing well.
The Prince of Wales called the Greek royal family who are attending the service to let them know he was unable to attend.
The late King Constantine of Greece, who died in January last year, was William's godfather.
I'm not convinced that the King's cancer is trivial - I think it might be rather serious. No evidence, just a gut feel.
No idea of what was wrong with Catherine (hysterectomy would be likely?) but its concerning that her recovery seems a bit slow.
I fear you could be right
The fact he was reported as weeping at the "get well" letters is concerning. We can't afford to lose more royals. Eeek
I've never liked the chap. He's always struck me as profoundly thick, and I've had a story related from a colleague who knew one of his tutors who said the same. But he had to wait an age for his 'turn', and only got it with loss of his mother, and may well be about to go too, so he has my sympathies.
But you know, there are plenty more Royals. Wills and Kat knocked out an heir and two spares, and there is always Andrew...
Well, there are a few people I don't particularly like, but I wouldn't shrug off the news that they had a horrible form of terminal cancer. It's a terrible fate for them and devastating for their families.
No-one deserves that. Not your worst enemy.
I wish him a full recovery.
Same, he’s a husband, father, grandfather, brother, uncle etc.
Whose had enormous wealth and privilege his whole life - I don't know him neither do I particularly need to care what kind of bum cancer he does or doesn't have that will shuffle him off this mortal coil like everyone else.
I find it funny that the whole "well you have to remember they're a human being" argument gets trotted out when people with immense wealth or power are dying and some people aren't arse licking on their way out, but when people are homeless or are fleeing a country and just trying to survive or are being bombed to death that is met by a mere shrug. People crossing the channel are husbands, fathers, mothers, daughters etc. but on any day here you can probably find someone who would cheer their boat sinking and demand them to be flogged if they did make it to our soil.
Here's hoping something is seriously wrong with Chaz and Wills, so we enter the funniest timeline of King George and Prince Regent Harry or Prince Regent Andrew.
What a horrible attitude - I have no great love for the royal family but I do not wish them harm
I wish they didn't exist - I don't know if that's the same as harm, but I do not care if they live or die and if they all died that would be a sure fire way of us not having a royal family any more.
But that isn't what you said. Wishing they didn't exist as an institution, and therefore as "the monarch" and the "prince of Wales" is entirely fair.
But you did not say that. You said "Here's hoping something is seriously wrong with Chaz and Wills"
Which absolutely crosses the PB line, to my mind
Where exactly is this line. Could you sketch it out for us so we can be aware of it in future posts.
TIA.
Don't be disingenuous
This site quite successfully polices itself, and one of the unwritten rules is that you do not wish death or serious harm to other PB-ers or significant public figures/politicians
Otherwise the place would soon turn into a sewer where we are all hoping that Keir Starmer gets REDACTED REDACTED
I know this coz I've been moderated for it, after some drunken rant where I went over the top. The moderation was justified, and I apologised to the forum, and you all gracioiusly accepted it
I got 2 likes and zero moderation when I expressed a sincerely held desire for Johnson to die of Covid. You just have to do it with panache.
Bad decision. It wasn't listed (as opposed to listing), and it owners should be free to do what they want with their property and land, subject to the established rights of others, environmental regs etc.
They probably needed permission or a permit to demolish the gutted structure.
They did - and they knew they weren’t going to get it. So they went for plan d hoping that the council wouldn’t bother about it
Looking past the fact that 148grss seems to be the type of borderline maniac loner/future serial killer that makes this site an embarrassment to be on, is Prince William actually ill?
Me, a republican, who cares not for the life of the monarch: potential stochastic terrorist.
Posters here, calling immigration an invasion and often going off on wild right wing rants, including literally asking me to solve our disagreements with a fist fight: the reputable norms of PB.
You’re actively wishing for them to have a serious, painful illness that kills them, then saying you’ll laugh if it happens. You sound like a complete nutter who should be on meds/under some kind of surveillance; the next Scarlet Blake. Either that or a lonely troll
I see Lee Anderson is trotting out a free speech defence. He said on GBNews that we have free speech and he should be free to say what he thinks. Of course, he is free to say what he thinks. It’s just that what he said was (a) wrong, and (b) racist. Other people used their free speech to point this out.
When will the right stop bleating about free speech, when what they want is consequence-free speech?
I think Lee Anderson thought he was "licenced" to speak freely as a Tory to the Red Wall base in language they'd understand, and to some extent he was.
The trouble was that what he said about Khan was slanderous: if he'd just said he thought Khan was far too tolerant of the Gaza protests and not doing enough, because he had some sympathy with them, then there'd have still been some howls of outrage but he wouldn't have been suspended.
Both parts are true. They sent him off as the thickie to talk to the northern thickies. The ones with cloth caps and ferrets in their trousers. And when you live up north you think London is another country. There are plenty of northern towns that the WWC still think have been "taken over" by muslims and "Londonistan" is worse.
Of course what 25p said was defamatory. So they had to suspend him. But the reported avalanche of "15p is right" messages received by doomed MPs shows that an awful lot of WWC voters think it wasn't defamatory and "someone had to say it".
Free speech? Too many parochial bigots think they should be allowed to openly say the racist stupid defamatory stuff because its true innit? Its the loony left and woke remoaners who should be forced to shut up, not them.
That’s powerfully put
So powerful someone has ALREADY set it to the tune of an epic rock ballad. That’s incredible
I've only just listened to this and had to stop after about 20 seconds due to spitting out tea and struggling to control myself in the office.
Absolutely brilliant.
Thanks. I am quite proud, even if the software made the music
I did take time choosing the most ridiculous comment that would be the funniest, and which - in length - would fit the format of Suno AI
There's quite a choice. @Dura_Ace posts might make a half-interesting sonnet, if you pieced them together sensibly and removed all the get-my-glossary jargon.
Client asked for some ideas about editing down a block of product descriptions for back of pack on a new brand. I looked at the text, thought "too long and repetitive" and fed it into ChatGPT. The AI edit is now the working version of the text...
Every time you list something on ebay it asks if you want the AI description. Now they are not as I might write them, plus they are on average longer than a @148grss post ( ) but they certainly do the job.
Amazon have started doing AI summaries of product reviews. All well and good - in fact, genuinely useful.
...except, er, the AI appears to have singled out "noise" as being one of the most important qualities of wine:
The Prince of Wales has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter, Kensington Palace has said.
William had been due to attend a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece at Windsor Castle.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continues to be doing well.
The Prince of Wales called the Greek royal family who are attending the service to let them know he was unable to attend.
The late King Constantine of Greece, who died in January last year, was William's godfather.
I'm not convinced that the King's cancer is trivial - I think it might be rather serious. No evidence, just a gut feel.
No idea of what was wrong with Catherine (hysterectomy would be likely?) but its concerning that her recovery seems a bit slow.
I fear you could be right
The fact he was reported as weeping at the "get well" letters is concerning. We can't afford to lose more royals. Eeek
I've never liked the chap. He's always struck me as profoundly thick, and I've had a story related from a colleague who knew one of his tutors who said the same. But he had to wait an age for his 'turn', and only got it with loss of his mother, and may well be about to go too, so he has my sympathies.
But you know, there are plenty more Royals. Wills and Kat knocked out an heir and two spares, and there is always Andrew...
Well, there are a few people I don't particularly like, but I wouldn't shrug off the news that they had a horrible form of terminal cancer. It's a terrible fate for them and devastating for their families.
No-one deserves that. Not your worst enemy.
I wish him a full recovery.
Same, he’s a husband, father, grandfather, brother, uncle etc.
Whose had enormous wealth and privilege his whole life - I don't know him neither do I particularly need to care what kind of bum cancer he does or doesn't have that will shuffle him off this mortal coil like everyone else.
I find it funny that the whole "well you have to remember they're a human being" argument gets trotted out when people with immense wealth or power are dying and some people aren't arse licking on their way out, but when people are homeless or are fleeing a country and just trying to survive or are being bombed to death that is met by a mere shrug. People crossing the channel are husbands, fathers, mothers, daughters etc. but on any day here you can probably find someone who would cheer their boat sinking and demand them to be flogged if they did make it to our soil.
Here's hoping something is seriously wrong with Chaz and Wills, so we enter the funniest timeline of King George and Prince Regent Harry or Prince Regent Andrew.
I have a heart, so my hope is that William baulks at the prospect of becoming Monarch, and does a runner to join his brother. He clearly doesn't like being in the public eye.
If the two brothers both removed themselves, and their children, from the succession, then the Commons would have to act to avoid a King Andrew, and once you make it clear to people that we've been choosing the Monarch for centuries, they might decide they want to play some part in the process directly.
I think I can agree with that in general - although I would personally argue we should demand democracy for our head of state rather than hope it turns up. But it is clear to me that Wills is not going to abdicate, otherwise he would have made it very clear already.
I'm down with demanding a Republic, but I wish my fellow Republicans would not be so stupid to disgust the people they'd need to convince by wishing death upon the line of succession.
How to win friends and influence people it is not.
But the idea of monarchy is so grotesque - why should I have to pamper the idea that these people are somehow genetically superior, either because of god or breeding, to lead us? People wish death, in a 12 Angry Men way, on people all the time. Claims of deity backed state leadership is some Kim Jong Un shit that we should have left behind the first time we chopped off a kind's head (not that Cromwell was a good person, before people start claiming I'd defend his positions on anything).
Labour is ahead of the Tories in London among all age groups including those 65 and over, by 34% to 31% for the latter. For Londoners aged 18-to-24 the respective split is 65% to 13%, 25-to 49 it is 58% to 12%, and 50 to 64 it is 49% to 18%
A difference of only 4% between inner and outer London ?!?
I'm finding that difficult to believe tbh. Conservatives are much stronger in outer London.
True, but... Maybe that should "were much stronger"?
My question is about the gap from inner to outer London. I'd have thought that would still be > 4% even if they're going down everywhere.
I suspect what we are seeing is a "bottoming out" - so a trend towards a minimum everywhere, which is necessarily going to reduce the relative differences.
“I’m getting sick and tired of hearing about morality, our moral obligation... There’s a point where you are incapable of meeting moral obligations that exist worldwide.”
He said that in 1975 about the US's obligations to South Vietnam. But he is essentially correct. It is not the duty of the US or the west to fix every wrong and impose our view of what is moral all over the world. The US does not have an obligation to act just because it can.
The Prince of Wales has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter, Kensington Palace has said.
William had been due to attend a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece at Windsor Castle.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continues to be doing well.
The Prince of Wales called the Greek royal family who are attending the service to let them know he was unable to attend.
The late King Constantine of Greece, who died in January last year, was William's godfather.
I'm not convinced that the King's cancer is trivial - I think it might be rather serious. No evidence, just a gut feel.
No idea of what was wrong with Catherine (hysterectomy would be likely?) but its concerning that her recovery seems a bit slow.
Couldn't possibly have been a hysterectomy - if done laparoscopically, that's day surgery or overnight at most. Even with open surgery, she'd have been home in four or five days.
But Catherine was in hospital for 13 days!
The most likely things which could explain a stay of that length are a bowel resection with major complications, or a liver transplant.
My wife had a hysterectomy in 1979 and was in hospital for 2 weeks and took months to recover having been plunged into immediate menopause
Any hysterectomy is major surgery and needs a long recovery period even without the menopause
Mrs C remarked a couple of weeks ago that Kate looked thin. Not slim, but thin. Ill thin.
The Prince of Wales has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter, Kensington Palace has said.
William had been due to attend a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece at Windsor Castle.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continues to be doing well.
The Prince of Wales called the Greek royal family who are attending the service to let them know he was unable to attend.
The late King Constantine of Greece, who died in January last year, was William's godfather.
I'm not convinced that the King's cancer is trivial - I think it might be rather serious. No evidence, just a gut feel.
No idea of what was wrong with Catherine (hysterectomy would be likely?) but its concerning that her recovery seems a bit slow.
I fear you could be right
The fact he was reported as weeping at the "get well" letters is concerning. We can't afford to lose more royals. Eeek
I've never liked the chap. He's always struck me as profoundly thick, and I've had a story related from a colleague who knew one of his tutors who said the same. But he had to wait an age for his 'turn', and only got it with loss of his mother, and may well be about to go too, so he has my sympathies.
But you know, there are plenty more Royals. Wills and Kat knocked out an heir and two spares, and there is always Andrew...
Well, there are a few people I don't particularly like, but I wouldn't shrug off the news that they had a horrible form of terminal cancer. It's a terrible fate for them and devastating for their families.
No-one deserves that. Not your worst enemy.
I wish him a full recovery.
Same, he’s a husband, father, grandfather, brother, uncle etc.
Whose had enormous wealth and privilege his whole life - I don't know him neither do I particularly need to care what kind of bum cancer he does or doesn't have that will shuffle him off this mortal coil like everyone else.
I find it funny that the whole "well you have to remember they're a human being" argument gets trotted out when people with immense wealth or power are dying and some people aren't arse licking on their way out, but when people are homeless or are fleeing a country and just trying to survive or are being bombed to death that is met by a mere shrug. People crossing the channel are husbands, fathers, mothers, daughters etc. but on any day here you can probably find someone who would cheer their boat sinking and demand them to be flogged if they did make it to our soil.
Here's hoping something is seriously wrong with Chaz and Wills, so we enter the funniest timeline of King George and Prince Regent Harry or Prince Regent Andrew.
What a horrible attitude - I have no great love for the royal family but I do not wish them harm
I wish they didn't exist - I don't know if that's the same as harm, but I do not care if they live or die and if they all died that would be a sure fire way of us not having a royal family any more.
But that isn't what you said. Wishing they didn't exist as an institution, and therefore as "the monarch" and the "prince of Wales" is entirely fair.
But you did not say that. You said "Here's hoping something is seriously wrong with Chaz and Wills"
Which absolutely crosses the PB line, to my mind
Where exactly is this line. Could you sketch it out for us so we can be aware of it in future posts.
TIA.
Don't be disingenuous
This site quite successfully polices itself, and one of the unwritten rules is that you do not wish death or serious harm to other PB-ers or significant public figures/politicians
Otherwise the place would soon turn into a sewer where we are all hoping that Keir Starmer gets REDACTED REDACTED
I know this coz I've been moderated for it, after some drunken rant where I went over the top. The moderation was justified, and I apologised to the forum, and you all gracioiusly accepted it
I got 2 likes and zero moderation when I expressed a sincerely held desire for Johnson to die of Covid. You just have to do it with panache.
The Prince of Wales has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter, Kensington Palace has said.
William had been due to attend a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece at Windsor Castle.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continues to be doing well.
The Prince of Wales called the Greek royal family who are attending the service to let them know he was unable to attend.
The late King Constantine of Greece, who died in January last year, was William's godfather.
I'm not convinced that the King's cancer is trivial - I think it might be rather serious. No evidence, just a gut feel.
No idea of what was wrong with Catherine (hysterectomy would be likely?) but its concerning that her recovery seems a bit slow.
I fear you could be right
The fact he was reported as weeping at the "get well" letters is concerning. We can't afford to lose more royals. Eeek
I've never liked the chap. He's always struck me as profoundly thick, and I've had a story related from a colleague who knew one of his tutors who said the same. But he had to wait an age for his 'turn', and only got it with loss of his mother, and may well be about to go too, so he has my sympathies.
But you know, there are plenty more Royals. Wills and Kat knocked out an heir and two spares, and there is always Andrew...
Well, there are a few people I don't particularly like, but I wouldn't shrug off the news that they had a horrible form of terminal cancer. It's a terrible fate for them and devastating for their families.
No-one deserves that. Not your worst enemy.
I wish him a full recovery.
Same, he’s a husband, father, grandfather, brother, uncle etc.
Whose had enormous wealth and privilege his whole life - I don't know him neither do I particularly need to care what kind of bum cancer he does or doesn't have that will shuffle him off this mortal coil like everyone else.
I find it funny that the whole "well you have to remember they're a human being" argument gets trotted out when people with immense wealth or power are dying and some people aren't arse licking on their way out, but when people are homeless or are fleeing a country and just trying to survive or are being bombed to death that is met by a mere shrug. People crossing the channel are husbands, fathers, mothers, daughters etc. but on any day here you can probably find someone who would cheer their boat sinking and demand them to be flogged if they did make it to our soil.
Here's hoping something is seriously wrong with Chaz and Wills, so we enter the funniest timeline of King George and Prince Regent Harry or Prince Regent Andrew.
You are wishing serious ill-health and death on fairly blameless human beings. Chas and Wills are not Vlad Putin
That crosses a line and you should apologise and withdraw, before you get moderated
Lol, no. I don't care if monarchs croak, why should I?
Because you make yourself look like a jerk?
Right - because my self worth comes from the opinions of PBers. I find some of the conversation here interesting, although I find much more of it hugely confusing if somewhat enlightening on what and how right wingers think, but I don't really care if people here think I am a bad person for not caring if the king or the prince of wales die.
Nonetheless, you now look like a total jerk. So well done you
I would say he's a deeply unpleasant individual, but I think that'd be unfair: he hasn't grown up yet.
He gives every impression of being a precocious teenager who read some Marx at the age of fifteen, topped up by a sprinkling of Chomsky in Sixth Form, and has since set his philosophy by it to the point it's defined his identity.
He been able to indulge in this ever since because he lives the life of a fairly typical privileged bien pensant left-winger - living in a house provided gratis by his Dad, and working in a cosseted academic bubble - so he's never had to revisit his assumptions, and simply proclaims them ever more loudly and angrily when they are challenged, usually with a lot of turgid verbiage.
One sort of feels sorry for him, really.
I did wonder what he would make of some of my families (both sides) attitudes towards Communists, deaths of Communists and jokes thereof.
Tbh if he feels somewhat negative towards a family whose selected doings are rammed down our throat 24/7, I doubt he'll give a feck about the attitudes of the family of an anonymous random on the internet.
Bad decision. It wasn't listed (as opposed to listing), and it owners should be free to do what they want with their property and land, subject to the established rights of others, environmental regs etc.
I suspect this was an exemplary decision, taken pour encourager les autres.
It won't be the same, according to the Continued Identity Theory:
"This solution (proposed by Kate, Ernest et al.) sees an object as staying the same as long as it continuously exists under the same identity, and it is never fully transformed at the same time. For instance, a house, whose front wall is destroyed and replaced at year 1, the ceiling replaced at year 2, et cætera until every part of the house has been replaced. The house will still be designated as being the same. However, if every wall, the floor and the ceiling are destroyed and replaced at the same time, it will be known as a new house."
Is this just a more sophisticated version of "Trigger's broom"?
The Prince of Wales has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter, Kensington Palace has said.
William had been due to attend a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece at Windsor Castle.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continues to be doing well.
The Prince of Wales called the Greek royal family who are attending the service to let them know he was unable to attend.
The late King Constantine of Greece, who died in January last year, was William's godfather.
I'm not convinced that the King's cancer is trivial - I think it might be rather serious. No evidence, just a gut feel.
No idea of what was wrong with Catherine (hysterectomy would be likely?) but its concerning that her recovery seems a bit slow.
I fear you could be right
The fact he was reported as weeping at the "get well" letters is concerning. We can't afford to lose more royals. Eeek
I've never liked the chap. He's always struck me as profoundly thick, and I've had a story related from a colleague who knew one of his tutors who said the same. But he had to wait an age for his 'turn', and only got it with loss of his mother, and may well be about to go too, so he has my sympathies.
But you know, there are plenty more Royals. Wills and Kat knocked out an heir and two spares, and there is always Andrew...
Well, there are a few people I don't particularly like, but I wouldn't shrug off the news that they had a horrible form of terminal cancer. It's a terrible fate for them and devastating for their families.
No-one deserves that. Not your worst enemy.
I wish him a full recovery.
Same, he’s a husband, father, grandfather, brother, uncle etc.
Whose had enormous wealth and privilege his whole life - I don't know him neither do I particularly need to care what kind of bum cancer he does or doesn't have that will shuffle him off this mortal coil like everyone else.
I find it funny that the whole "well you have to remember they're a human being" argument gets trotted out when people with immense wealth or power are dying and some people aren't arse licking on their way out, but when people are homeless or are fleeing a country and just trying to survive or are being bombed to death that is met by a mere shrug. People crossing the channel are husbands, fathers, mothers, daughters etc. but on any day here you can probably find someone who would cheer their boat sinking and demand them to be flogged if they did make it to our soil.
Here's hoping something is seriously wrong with Chaz and Wills, so we enter the funniest timeline of King George and Prince Regent Harry or Prince Regent Andrew.
You are wishing serious ill-health and death on fairly blameless human beings. Chas and Wills are not Vlad Putin
That crosses a line and you should apologise and withdraw, before you get moderated
Lol, no. I don't care if monarchs croak, why should I?
Because you make yourself look like a jerk?
Right - because my self worth comes from the opinions of PBers. I find some of the conversation here interesting, although I find much more of it hugely confusing if somewhat enlightening on what and how right wingers think, but I don't really care if people here think I am a bad person for not caring if the king or the prince of wales die.
Nonetheless, you now look like a total jerk. So well done you
I would say he's a deeply unpleasant individual, but I think that'd be unfair: he hasn't grown up yet.
He gives every impression of being a precocious teenager who read some Marx at the age of fifteen, topped up by a sprinkling of Chomsky in Sixth Form, and has since set his philosophy by it to the point it's defined his identity.
He been able to indulge in this ever since because he lives the life of a fairly typical privileged bien pensant left-winger - living in a house provided gratis by his Dad, and working in a cosseted academic bubble - so he's never had to revisit his assumptions, and simply proclaims them ever more loudly and angrily when they are challenged, usually with a lot of turgid verbiage.
One sort of feels sorry for him, really.
Apparently the guy who treatened me to a fist fight in the honour of his maj wants to talk about my loud and angry words. Is this how your therapist suggested you deal with the urge to "take this outside" - create a fantasy that means you can contain the anger rather than act on it? I personally prefer therapies that take aim at the causes of things, but sometimes what Pratchett calls "headology" works.
I love how the whole "I live in a house my Dad owns" thing has become a tale of the inherent wealth and privilege I have an not an outcome of my mother's death and years of me fighting with my dad about not treating it like a tomb to her memory - which included the best part of a year of my life when I was literally homeless and sofa surfing because I refused to move back in with him and couldn't go elsewhere - but hey ho, here's what comes of brevity.
Again, no one is challenging any of this. We are merely pointing out that it is not Site Etiquette to wish ill health and death on other pb-ers and public figures (with the possible exception of execrable tyrants like Putin). Chas and Wills might be odious symbols of privilege, and represent an institution you detest, nonetheless they are human beings and your words were cruel and unpleasant
And consider this, you've got me, not exactly know for mincing words, and Nick Palmer (your only other fellow communist on the site, albeit ex in his case) both advising you to reword and say sorry
Just say sorry! Withdraw. It's not hard, and it's good for the soul, and then you can go back to giving us your often quite interesting and decisive opinions, even if I generally disagree
“I’m getting sick and tired of hearing about morality, our moral obligation... There’s a point where you are incapable of meeting moral obligations that exist worldwide.”
He said that in 1975 about the US's obligations to South Vietnam. But he is essentially correct. It is not the duty of the US or the west to fix every wrong and impose our view of what is moral all over the world. The US does not have an obligation to act just because it can.
It won't be the same, according to the Continued Identity Theory:
"This solution (proposed by Kate, Ernest et al.) sees an object as staying the same as long as it continuously exists under the same identity, and it is never fully transformed at the same time. For instance, a house, whose front wall is destroyed and replaced at year 1, the ceiling replaced at year 2, et cætera until every part of the house has been replaced. The house will still be designated as being the same. However, if every wall, the floor and the ceiling are destroyed and replaced at the same time, it will be known as a new house."
Is this just a more sophisticated version of "Trigger's broom"?
Yes, and the scene was inspired by ship of Theseus.
I see Lee Anderson is trotting out a free speech defence. He said on GBNews that we have free speech and he should be free to say what he thinks. Of course, he is free to say what he thinks. It’s just that what he said was (a) wrong, and (b) racist. Other people used their free speech to point this out.
When will the right stop bleating about free speech, when what they want is consequence-free speech?
I think Lee Anderson thought he was "licenced" to speak freely as a Tory to the Red Wall base in language they'd understand, and to some extent he was.
The trouble was that what he said about Khan was slanderous: if he'd just said he thought Khan was far too tolerant of the Gaza protests and not doing enough, because he had some sympathy with them, then there'd have still been some howls of outrage but he wouldn't have been suspended.
Both parts are true. They sent him off as the thickie to talk to the northern thickies. The ones with cloth caps and ferrets in their trousers. And when you live up north you think London is another country. There are plenty of northern towns that the WWC still think have been "taken over" by muslims and "Londonistan" is worse.
Of course what 25p said was defamatory. So they had to suspend him. But the reported avalanche of "15p is right" messages received by doomed MPs shows that an awful lot of WWC voters think it wasn't defamatory and "someone had to say it".
Free speech? Too many parochial bigots think they should be allowed to openly say the racist stupid defamatory stuff because its true innit? Its the loony left and woke remoaners who should be forced to shut up, not them.
That’s powerfully put
So powerful someone has ALREADY set it to the tune of an epic rock ballad. That’s incredible
I've only just listened to this and had to stop after about 20 seconds due to spitting out tea and struggling to control myself in the office.
Absolutely brilliant.
Thanks. I am quite proud, even if the software made the music
I did take time choosing the most ridiculous comment that would be the funniest, and which - in length - would fit the format of Suno AI
There's quite a choice. @Dura_Ace posts might make a half-interesting sonnet, if you pieced them together sensibly and removed all the get-my-glossary jargon.
Client asked for some ideas about editing down a block of product descriptions for back of pack on a new brand. I looked at the text, thought "too long and repetitive" and fed it into ChatGPT. The AI edit is now the working version of the text...
Every time you list something on ebay it asks if you want the AI description. Now they are not as I might write them, plus they are on average longer than a @148grss post ( ) but they certainly do the job.
Amazon have started doing AI summaries of product reviews. All well and good - in fact, genuinely useful.
...except, er, the AI appears to have singled out "noise" as being one of the most important qualities of wine:
Personally, I think that suggests AI has really got the whole over-the-top wine appreciation thing - banging on about bizarre, non existent properties of the wine.
Up there with using special orange marker pens to make your CDs sound better.
The Prince of Wales has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter, Kensington Palace has said.
William had been due to attend a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece at Windsor Castle.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continues to be doing well.
The Prince of Wales called the Greek royal family who are attending the service to let them know he was unable to attend.
The late King Constantine of Greece, who died in January last year, was William's godfather.
I'm not convinced that the King's cancer is trivial - I think it might be rather serious. No evidence, just a gut feel.
No idea of what was wrong with Catherine (hysterectomy would be likely?) but its concerning that her recovery seems a bit slow.
I fear you could be right
The fact he was reported as weeping at the "get well" letters is concerning. We can't afford to lose more royals. Eeek
I've never liked the chap. He's always struck me as profoundly thick, and I've had a story related from a colleague who knew one of his tutors who said the same. But he had to wait an age for his 'turn', and only got it with loss of his mother, and may well be about to go too, so he has my sympathies.
But you know, there are plenty more Royals. Wills and Kat knocked out an heir and two spares, and there is always Andrew...
Well, there are a few people I don't particularly like, but I wouldn't shrug off the news that they had a horrible form of terminal cancer. It's a terrible fate for them and devastating for their families.
No-one deserves that. Not your worst enemy.
I wish him a full recovery.
Same, he’s a husband, father, grandfather, brother, uncle etc.
Whose had enormous wealth and privilege his whole life - I don't know him neither do I particularly need to care what kind of bum cancer he does or doesn't have that will shuffle him off this mortal coil like everyone else.
I find it funny that the whole "well you have to remember they're a human being" argument gets trotted out when people with immense wealth or power are dying and some people aren't arse licking on their way out, but when people are homeless or are fleeing a country and just trying to survive or are being bombed to death that is met by a mere shrug. People crossing the channel are husbands, fathers, mothers, daughters etc. but on any day here you can probably find someone who would cheer their boat sinking and demand them to be flogged if they did make it to our soil.
Here's hoping something is seriously wrong with Chaz and Wills, so we enter the funniest timeline of King George and Prince Regent Harry or Prince Regent Andrew.
You are wishing serious ill-health and death on fairly blameless human beings. Chas and Wills are not Vlad Putin
That crosses a line and you should apologise and withdraw, before you get moderated
Lol, no. I don't care if monarchs croak, why should I?
Because you make yourself look like a jerk?
Right - because my self worth comes from the opinions of PBers. I find some of the conversation here interesting, although I find much more of it hugely confusing if somewhat enlightening on what and how right wingers think, but I don't really care if people here think I am a bad person for not caring if the king or the prince of wales die.
Nonetheless, you now look like a total jerk. So well done you
I would say he's a deeply unpleasant individual, but I think that'd be unfair: he hasn't grown up yet.
He gives every impression of being a precocious teenager who read some Marx at the age of fifteen, topped up by a sprinkling of Chomsky in Sixth Form, and has since set his philosophy by it to the point it's defined his identity.
He been able to indulge in this ever since because he lives the life of a fairly typical privileged bien pensant left-winger - living in a house provided gratis by his Dad, and working in a cosseted academic bubble - so he's never had to revisit his assumptions, and simply proclaims them ever more loudly and angrily when they are challenged, usually with a lot of turgid verbiage.
One sort of feels sorry for him, really.
Apparently the guy who treatened me to a fist fight in the honour of his maj wants to talk about my loud and angry words. Is this how your therapist suggested you deal with the urge to "take this outside" - create a fantasy that means you can contain the anger rather than act on it? I personally prefer therapies that take aim at the causes of things, but sometimes what Pratchett calls "headology" works.
I love how the whole "I live in a house my Dad owns" thing has become a tale of the inherent wealth and privilege I have an not an outcome of my mother's death and years of me fighting with my dad about not treating it like a tomb to her memory - which included the best part of a year of my life when I was literally homeless and sofa surfing because I refused to move back in with him and couldn't go elsewhere - but hey ho, here's what comes of brevity.
I find these PB romances where the participants try to hide their love behind animosity quite cute...
148 & CR Leon & Ian Topping & Kinabalu (not sure that one's requited )
Looking past the fact that 148grss seems to be the type of borderline maniac loner/future serial killer that makes this site an embarrassment to be on, is Prince William actually ill?
Me, a republican, who cares not for the life of the monarch: potential stochastic terrorist.
Posters here, calling immigration an invasion and often going off on wild right wing rants, including literally asking me to solve our disagreements with a fist fight: the reputable norms of PB.
You’re actively wishing for them to have a serious, painful illness that kills them, then saying you’ll laugh if it happens. You sound like a complete nutter who should be on meds/under some kind of surveillance; the next Scarlet Blake. Either that or a lonely troll
I didn't say painful - that's your interpretation. And I said it would be funny because of the outcome - Prince Regent Harry or Andrew - not because of their deaths (although I would not be sad at the prospect of their deaths).
But sure, the people here who want to build a wall at Calais and let children die in Gaza by their thousands or want to round up every Muslim and chuck them out of the country are the people who truly care about the sanctity of life and the impact that words have on another human who we briefly stand in brotherhood with during our short time on this small blue dot, not me, who hates one family of rich fucks who claim the right to rule me based on their bloodline. I am, indeed, the awful degenerate here.
The Prince of Wales has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter, Kensington Palace has said.
William had been due to attend a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece at Windsor Castle.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continues to be doing well.
The Prince of Wales called the Greek royal family who are attending the service to let them know he was unable to attend.
The late King Constantine of Greece, who died in January last year, was William's godfather.
I'm not convinced that the King's cancer is trivial - I think it might be rather serious. No evidence, just a gut feel.
No idea of what was wrong with Catherine (hysterectomy would be likely?) but its concerning that her recovery seems a bit slow.
I fear you could be right
The fact he was reported as weeping at the "get well" letters is concerning. We can't afford to lose more royals. Eeek
I've never liked the chap. He's always struck me as profoundly thick, and I've had a story related from a colleague who knew one of his tutors who said the same. But he had to wait an age for his 'turn', and only got it with loss of his mother, and may well be about to go too, so he has my sympathies.
But you know, there are plenty more Royals. Wills and Kat knocked out an heir and two spares, and there is always Andrew...
Well, there are a few people I don't particularly like, but I wouldn't shrug off the news that they had a horrible form of terminal cancer. It's a terrible fate for them and devastating for their families.
No-one deserves that. Not your worst enemy.
I wish him a full recovery.
Same, he’s a husband, father, grandfather, brother, uncle etc.
Whose had enormous wealth and privilege his whole life - I don't know him neither do I particularly need to care what kind of bum cancer he does or doesn't have that will shuffle him off this mortal coil like everyone else.
I find it funny that the whole "well you have to remember they're a human being" argument gets trotted out when people with immense wealth or power are dying and some people aren't arse licking on their way out, but when people are homeless or are fleeing a country and just trying to survive or are being bombed to death that is met by a mere shrug. People crossing the channel are husbands, fathers, mothers, daughters etc. but on any day here you can probably find someone who would cheer their boat sinking and demand them to be flogged if they did make it to our soil.
Here's hoping something is seriously wrong with Chaz and Wills, so we enter the funniest timeline of King George and Prince Regent Harry or Prince Regent Andrew.
What a horrible attitude - I have no great love for the royal family but I do not wish them harm
I wish they didn't exist - I don't know if that's the same as harm, but I do not care if they live or die and if they all died that would be a sure fire way of us not having a royal family any more.
But that isn't what you said. Wishing they didn't exist as an institution, and therefore as "the monarch" and the "prince of Wales" is entirely fair.
But you did not say that. You said "Here's hoping something is seriously wrong with Chaz and Wills"
Which absolutely crosses the PB line, to my mind
Where exactly is this line. Could you sketch it out for us so we can be aware of it in future posts.
TIA.
Don't be disingenuous
This site quite successfully polices itself, and one of the unwritten rules is that you do not wish death or serious harm to other PB-ers or significant public figures/politicians
Otherwise the place would soon turn into a sewer where we are all hoping that Keir Starmer gets REDACTED REDACTED
I know this coz I've been moderated for it, after some drunken rant where I went over the top. The moderation was justified, and I apologised to the forum, and you all gracioiusly accepted it
I got 2 likes and zero moderation when I expressed a sincerely held desire for Johnson to die of Covid. You just have to do it with panache.
If he had he would have been Britain's Kennedy...
No, that was Princess Diana
Don't you mean the Kennedy sent to Britain during the war? That was Britain's Kennedy, Joe Kennedy.
“I’m getting sick and tired of hearing about morality, our moral obligation... There’s a point where you are incapable of meeting moral obligations that exist worldwide.”
He said that in 1975 about the US's obligations to South Vietnam. But he is essentially correct. It is not the duty of the US or the west to fix every wrong and impose our view of what is moral all over the world. The US does not have an obligation to act just because it can.
Hence Trump.
True. There is an inevitable reaction to moral overreach.
Looking past the fact that 148grss seems to be the type of borderline maniac loner/future serial killer that makes this site an embarrassment to be on, is Prince William actually ill?
Me, a republican, who cares not for the life of the monarch: potential stochastic terrorist.
Posters here, calling immigration an invasion and often going off on wild right wing rants, including literally asking me to solve our disagreements with a fist fight: the reputable norms of PB.
You’re actively wishing for them to have a serious, painful illness that kills them, then saying you’ll laugh if it happens. You sound like a complete nutter who should be on meds/under some kind of surveillance; the next Scarlet Blake. Either that or a lonely troll
He's expressing a political wish. The extinction of the monarchy. How they go is immaterial. I missed the bit about the painful exit.
And I am always amused at any PB poster using the term "lonely", which is similar to saying that they are so sad that they are posting on PB when they could be doing something far more exciting. What's your excuse.
The Prince of Wales has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter, Kensington Palace has said.
William had been due to attend a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece at Windsor Castle.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continues to be doing well.
The Prince of Wales called the Greek royal family who are attending the service to let them know he was unable to attend.
The late King Constantine of Greece, who died in January last year, was William's godfather.
I'm not convinced that the King's cancer is trivial - I think it might be rather serious. No evidence, just a gut feel.
No idea of what was wrong with Catherine (hysterectomy would be likely?) but its concerning that her recovery seems a bit slow.
I fear you could be right
The fact he was reported as weeping at the "get well" letters is concerning. We can't afford to lose more royals. Eeek
I've never liked the chap. He's always struck me as profoundly thick, and I've had a story related from a colleague who knew one of his tutors who said the same. But he had to wait an age for his 'turn', and only got it with loss of his mother, and may well be about to go too, so he has my sympathies.
But you know, there are plenty more Royals. Wills and Kat knocked out an heir and two spares, and there is always Andrew...
Well, there are a few people I don't particularly like, but I wouldn't shrug off the news that they had a horrible form of terminal cancer. It's a terrible fate for them and devastating for their families.
No-one deserves that. Not your worst enemy.
I wish him a full recovery.
Same, he’s a husband, father, grandfather, brother, uncle etc.
Whose had enormous wealth and privilege his whole life - I don't know him neither do I particularly need to care what kind of bum cancer he does or doesn't have that will shuffle him off this mortal coil like everyone else.
I find it funny that the whole "well you have to remember they're a human being" argument gets trotted out when people with immense wealth or power are dying and some people aren't arse licking on their way out, but when people are homeless or are fleeing a country and just trying to survive or are being bombed to death that is met by a mere shrug. People crossing the channel are husbands, fathers, mothers, daughters etc. but on any day here you can probably find someone who would cheer their boat sinking and demand them to be flogged if they did make it to our soil.
Here's hoping something is seriously wrong with Chaz and Wills, so we enter the funniest timeline of King George and Prince Regent Harry or Prince Regent Andrew.
I have a heart, so my hope is that William baulks at the prospect of becoming Monarch, and does a runner to join his brother. He clearly doesn't like being in the public eye.
If the two brothers both removed themselves, and their children, from the succession, then the Commons would have to act to avoid a King Andrew, and once you make it clear to people that we've been choosing the Monarch for centuries, they might decide they want to play some part in the process directly.
William is not removing himself from the line of succession and nor has Harry. In the unlikely event he did we would therefore have King George and Prince Regent Harry (which would at least bring some unity again).
This memorial service is for a former Greek monarch of a monarchy which no longer rules, it is really therefore a private engagement which the Queen can attend in his place. No suggestion he is ill and the Princess of Wales according to a statement from Kensington Palace this morning is also recovering well
The Prince of Wales has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter, Kensington Palace has said.
William had been due to attend a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece at Windsor Castle.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continues to be doing well.
The Prince of Wales called the Greek royal family who are attending the service to let them know he was unable to attend.
The late King Constantine of Greece, who died in January last year, was William's godfather.
I'm not convinced that the King's cancer is trivial - I think it might be rather serious. No evidence, just a gut feel.
No idea of what was wrong with Catherine (hysterectomy would be likely?) but its concerning that her recovery seems a bit slow.
Couldn't possibly have been a hysterectomy - if done laparoscopically, that's day surgery or overnight at most. Even with open surgery, she'd have been home in four or five days.
But Catherine was in hospital for 13 days!
The most likely things which could explain a stay of that length are a bowel resection with major complications, or a liver transplant.
My wife had a hysterectomy in 1979 and was in hospital for 2 weeks and took months to recover having been plunged into immediate menopause
Any hysterectomy is major surgery and needs a long recovery period even without the menopause
Mrs C remarked a couple of weeks ago that Kate looked thin. Not slim, but thin. Ill thin.
The Prince of Wales has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter, Kensington Palace has said.
William had been due to attend a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece at Windsor Castle.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continues to be doing well.
The Prince of Wales called the Greek royal family who are attending the service to let them know he was unable to attend.
The late King Constantine of Greece, who died in January last year, was William's godfather.
I'm not convinced that the King's cancer is trivial - I think it might be rather serious. No evidence, just a gut feel.
No idea of what was wrong with Catherine (hysterectomy would be likely?) but its concerning that her recovery seems a bit slow.
I fear you could be right
The fact he was reported as weeping at the "get well" letters is concerning. We can't afford to lose more royals. Eeek
I've never liked the chap. He's always struck me as profoundly thick, and I've had a story related from a colleague who knew one of his tutors who said the same. But he had to wait an age for his 'turn', and only got it with loss of his mother, and may well be about to go too, so he has my sympathies.
But you know, there are plenty more Royals. Wills and Kat knocked out an heir and two spares, and there is always Andrew...
Well, there are a few people I don't particularly like, but I wouldn't shrug off the news that they had a horrible form of terminal cancer. It's a terrible fate for them and devastating for their families.
No-one deserves that. Not your worst enemy.
I wish him a full recovery.
Same, he’s a husband, father, grandfather, brother, uncle etc.
Whose had enormous wealth and privilege his whole life - I don't know him neither do I particularly need to care what kind of bum cancer he does or doesn't have that will shuffle him off this mortal coil like everyone else.
I find it funny that the whole "well you have to remember they're a human being" argument gets trotted out when people with immense wealth or power are dying and some people aren't arse licking on their way out, but when people are homeless or are fleeing a country and just trying to survive or are being bombed to death that is met by a mere shrug. People crossing the channel are husbands, fathers, mothers, daughters etc. but on any day here you can probably find someone who would cheer their boat sinking and demand them to be flogged if they did make it to our soil.
Here's hoping something is seriously wrong with Chaz and Wills, so we enter the funniest timeline of King George and Prince Regent Harry or Prince Regent Andrew.
I have a heart, so my hope is that William baulks at the prospect of becoming Monarch, and does a runner to join his brother. He clearly doesn't like being in the public eye.
If the two brothers both removed themselves, and their children, from the succession, then the Commons would have to act to avoid a King Andrew, and once you make it clear to people that we've been choosing the Monarch for centuries, they might decide they want to play some part in the process directly.
I think I can agree with that in general - although I would personally argue we should demand democracy for our head of state rather than hope it turns up. But it is clear to me that Wills is not going to abdicate, otherwise he would have made it very clear already.
I'm down with demanding a Republic, but I wish my fellow Republicans would not be so stupid to disgust the people they'd need to convince by wishing death upon the line of succession.
How to win friends and influence people it is not.
But the idea of monarchy is so grotesque - why should I have to pamper the idea that these people are somehow genetically superior, either because of god or breeding, to lead us? People wish death, in a 12 Angry Men way, on people all the time. Claims of deity backed state leadership is some Kim Jong Un shit that we should have left behind the first time we chopped off a kind's head (not that Cromwell was a good person, before people start claiming I'd defend his positions on anything).
And you’ve managed to miss the fact that nearly every time someone acts on those wishes, the result for nearly everyone is worse? Much worse.
The Prince of Wales has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter, Kensington Palace has said.
William had been due to attend a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece at Windsor Castle.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continues to be doing well.
The Prince of Wales called the Greek royal family who are attending the service to let them know he was unable to attend.
The late King Constantine of Greece, who died in January last year, was William's godfather.
I'm not convinced that the King's cancer is trivial - I think it might be rather serious. No evidence, just a gut feel.
No idea of what was wrong with Catherine (hysterectomy would be likely?) but its concerning that her recovery seems a bit slow.
I fear you could be right
The fact he was reported as weeping at the "get well" letters is concerning. We can't afford to lose more royals. Eeek
I've never liked the chap. He's always struck me as profoundly thick, and I've had a story related from a colleague who knew one of his tutors who said the same. But he had to wait an age for his 'turn', and only got it with loss of his mother, and may well be about to go too, so he has my sympathies.
But you know, there are plenty more Royals. Wills and Kat knocked out an heir and two spares, and there is always Andrew...
Well, there are a few people I don't particularly like, but I wouldn't shrug off the news that they had a horrible form of terminal cancer. It's a terrible fate for them and devastating for their families.
No-one deserves that. Not your worst enemy.
I wish him a full recovery.
Same, he’s a husband, father, grandfather, brother, uncle etc.
Whose had enormous wealth and privilege his whole life - I don't know him neither do I particularly need to care what kind of bum cancer he does or doesn't have that will shuffle him off this mortal coil like everyone else.
I find it funny that the whole "well you have to remember they're a human being" argument gets trotted out when people with immense wealth or power are dying and some people aren't arse licking on their way out, but when people are homeless or are fleeing a country and just trying to survive or are being bombed to death that is met by a mere shrug. People crossing the channel are husbands, fathers, mothers, daughters etc. but on any day here you can probably find someone who would cheer their boat sinking and demand them to be flogged if they did make it to our soil.
Here's hoping something is seriously wrong with Chaz and Wills, so we enter the funniest timeline of King George and Prince Regent Harry or Prince Regent Andrew.
I have a heart, so my hope is that William baulks at the prospect of becoming Monarch, and does a runner to join his brother. He clearly doesn't like being in the public eye.
If the two brothers both removed themselves, and their children, from the succession, then the Commons would have to act to avoid a King Andrew, and once you make it clear to people that we've been choosing the Monarch for centuries, they might decide they want to play some part in the process directly.
I think I can agree with that in general - although I would personally argue we should demand democracy for our head of state rather than hope it turns up. But it is clear to me that Wills is not going to abdicate, otherwise he would have made it very clear already.
I'm down with demanding a Republic, but I wish my fellow Republicans would not be so stupid to disgust the people they'd need to convince by wishing death upon the line of succession.
How to win friends and influence people it is not.
But the idea of monarchy is so grotesque - why should I have to pamper the idea that these people are somehow genetically superior, either because of god or breeding, to lead us? People wish death, in a 12 Angry Men way, on people all the time. Claims of deity backed state leadership is some Kim Jong Un shit that we should have left behind the first time we chopped off a kind's head (not that Cromwell was a good person, before people start claiming I'd defend his positions on anything).
The monarch is a well paid mascot. I don’t think most people have an issue with that
The Prince of Wales has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter, Kensington Palace has said.
William had been due to attend a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece at Windsor Castle.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continues to be doing well.
The Prince of Wales called the Greek royal family who are attending the service to let them know he was unable to attend.
The late King Constantine of Greece, who died in January last year, was William's godfather.
I'm not convinced that the King's cancer is trivial - I think it might be rather serious. No evidence, just a gut feel.
No idea of what was wrong with Catherine (hysterectomy would be likely?) but its concerning that her recovery seems a bit slow.
I fear you could be right
The fact he was reported as weeping at the "get well" letters is concerning. We can't afford to lose more royals. Eeek
I've never liked the chap. He's always struck me as profoundly thick, and I've had a story related from a colleague who knew one of his tutors who said the same. But he had to wait an age for his 'turn', and only got it with loss of his mother, and may well be about to go too, so he has my sympathies.
But you know, there are plenty more Royals. Wills and Kat knocked out an heir and two spares, and there is always Andrew...
Well, there are a few people I don't particularly like, but I wouldn't shrug off the news that they had a horrible form of terminal cancer. It's a terrible fate for them and devastating for their families.
No-one deserves that. Not your worst enemy.
I wish him a full recovery.
Same, he’s a husband, father, grandfather, brother, uncle etc.
Whose had enormous wealth and privilege his whole life - I don't know him neither do I particularly need to care what kind of bum cancer he does or doesn't have that will shuffle him off this mortal coil like everyone else.
I find it funny that the whole "well you have to remember they're a human being" argument gets trotted out when people with immense wealth or power are dying and some people aren't arse licking on their way out, but when people are homeless or are fleeing a country and just trying to survive or are being bombed to death that is met by a mere shrug. People crossing the channel are husbands, fathers, mothers, daughters etc. but on any day here you can probably find someone who would cheer their boat sinking and demand them to be flogged if they did make it to our soil.
Here's hoping something is seriously wrong with Chaz and Wills, so we enter the funniest timeline of King George and Prince Regent Harry or Prince Regent Andrew.
You are wishing serious ill-health and death on fairly blameless human beings. Chas and Wills are not Vlad Putin
That crosses a line and you should apologise and withdraw, before you get moderated
Lol, no. I don't care if monarchs croak, why should I?
Because you make yourself look like a jerk?
Right - because my self worth comes from the opinions of PBers. I find some of the conversation here interesting, although I find much more of it hugely confusing if somewhat enlightening on what and how right wingers think, but I don't really care if people here think I am a bad person for not caring if the king or the prince of wales die.
Nonetheless, you now look like a total jerk. So well done you
I would say he's a deeply unpleasant individual, but I think that'd be unfair: he hasn't grown up yet.
He gives every impression of being a precocious teenager who read some Marx at the age of fifteen, topped up by a sprinkling of Chomsky in Sixth Form, and has since set his philosophy by it to the point it's defined his identity.
He been able to indulge in this ever since because he lives the life of a fairly typical privileged bien pensant left-winger - living in a house provided gratis by his Dad, and working in a cosseted academic bubble - so he's never had to revisit his assumptions, and simply proclaims them ever more loudly and angrily when they are challenged, usually with a lot of turgid verbiage.
One sort of feels sorry for him, really.
Apparently the guy who treatened me to a fist fight in the honour of his maj wants to talk about my loud and angry words. Is this how your therapist suggested you deal with the urge to "take this outside" - create a fantasy that means you can contain the anger rather than act on it? I personally prefer therapies that take aim at the causes of things, but sometimes what Pratchett calls "headology" works.
I love how the whole "I live in a house my Dad owns" thing has become a tale of the inherent wealth and privilege I have an not an outcome of my mother's death and years of me fighting with my dad about not treating it like a tomb to her memory - which included the best part of a year of my life when I was literally homeless and sofa surfing because I refused to move back in with him and couldn't go elsewhere - but hey ho, here's what comes of brevity.
Again, no one is challenging any of this. We are merely pointing out that it is not Site Etiquette to wish ill health and death on other pb-ers and public figures (with the possible exception of execrable tyrants like Putin). Chas and Wills might be odious symbols of privilege, and represent an institution you detest, nonetheless they are human beings and your words were cruel and unpleasant
And consider this, you've got me, not exactly know for mincing words, and Nick Palmer (your only other fellow communist on the site, albeit ex in his case) both advising you to reword and say sorry
Just say sorry! Withdraw. It's not hard, and it's good for the soul, and then you can go back to giving us your often quite interesting and decisive opinions, even if I generally disagree
The Prince of Wales has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter, Kensington Palace has said.
William had been due to attend a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece at Windsor Castle.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continues to be doing well.
The Prince of Wales called the Greek royal family who are attending the service to let them know he was unable to attend.
The late King Constantine of Greece, who died in January last year, was William's godfather.
I'm not convinced that the King's cancer is trivial - I think it might be rather serious. No evidence, just a gut feel.
No idea of what was wrong with Catherine (hysterectomy would be likely?) but its concerning that her recovery seems a bit slow.
I fear you could be right
The fact he was reported as weeping at the "get well" letters is concerning. We can't afford to lose more royals. Eeek
I've never liked the chap. He's always struck me as profoundly thick, and I've had a story related from a colleague who knew one of his tutors who said the same. But he had to wait an age for his 'turn', and only got it with loss of his mother, and may well be about to go too, so he has my sympathies.
But you know, there are plenty more Royals. Wills and Kat knocked out an heir and two spares, and there is always Andrew...
Well, there are a few people I don't particularly like, but I wouldn't shrug off the news that they had a horrible form of terminal cancer. It's a terrible fate for them and devastating for their families.
No-one deserves that. Not your worst enemy.
I wish him a full recovery.
Same, he’s a husband, father, grandfather, brother, uncle etc.
Whose had enormous wealth and privilege his whole life - I don't know him neither do I particularly need to care what kind of bum cancer he does or doesn't have that will shuffle him off this mortal coil like everyone else.
I find it funny that the whole "well you have to remember they're a human being" argument gets trotted out when people with immense wealth or power are dying and some people aren't arse licking on their way out, but when people are homeless or are fleeing a country and just trying to survive or are being bombed to death that is met by a mere shrug. People crossing the channel are husbands, fathers, mothers, daughters etc. but on any day here you can probably find someone who would cheer their boat sinking and demand them to be flogged if they did make it to our soil.
Here's hoping something is seriously wrong with Chaz and Wills, so we enter the funniest timeline of King George and Prince Regent Harry or Prince Regent Andrew.
I have a heart, so my hope is that William baulks at the prospect of becoming Monarch, and does a runner to join his brother. He clearly doesn't like being in the public eye.
If the two brothers both removed themselves, and their children, from the succession, then the Commons would have to act to avoid a King Andrew, and once you make it clear to people that we've been choosing the Monarch for centuries, they might decide they want to play some part in the process directly.
I think I can agree with that in general - although I would personally argue we should demand democracy for our head of state rather than hope it turns up. But it is clear to me that Wills is not going to abdicate, otherwise he would have made it very clear already.
I'm down with demanding a Republic, but I wish my fellow Republicans would not be so stupid to disgust the people they'd need to convince by wishing death upon the line of succession.
How to win friends and influence people it is not.
But the idea of monarchy is so grotesque - why should I have to pamper the idea that these people are somehow genetically superior, either because of god or breeding, to lead us? People wish death, in a 12 Angry Men way, on people all the time. Claims of deity backed state leadership is some Kim Jong Un shit that we should have left behind the first time we chopped off a kind's head (not that Cromwell was a good person, before people start claiming I'd defend his positions on anything).
The monarch is a well paid mascot. I don’t think most people have an issue with that
And also far preferable to the inevitable President Johnson or President Blair alternative
The Prince of Wales has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter, Kensington Palace has said.
William had been due to attend a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece at Windsor Castle.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continues to be doing well.
The Prince of Wales called the Greek royal family who are attending the service to let them know he was unable to attend.
The late King Constantine of Greece, who died in January last year, was William's godfather.
I'm not convinced that the King's cancer is trivial - I think it might be rather serious. No evidence, just a gut feel.
No idea of what was wrong with Catherine (hysterectomy would be likely?) but its concerning that her recovery seems a bit slow.
I fear you could be right
The fact he was reported as weeping at the "get well" letters is concerning. We can't afford to lose more royals. Eeek
I've never liked the chap. He's always struck me as profoundly thick, and I've had a story related from a colleague who knew one of his tutors who said the same. But he had to wait an age for his 'turn', and only got it with loss of his mother, and may well be about to go too, so he has my sympathies.
But you know, there are plenty more Royals. Wills and Kat knocked out an heir and two spares, and there is always Andrew...
Well, there are a few people I don't particularly like, but I wouldn't shrug off the news that they had a horrible form of terminal cancer. It's a terrible fate for them and devastating for their families.
No-one deserves that. Not your worst enemy.
I wish him a full recovery.
Same, he’s a husband, father, grandfather, brother, uncle etc.
Whose had enormous wealth and privilege his whole life - I don't know him neither do I particularly need to care what kind of bum cancer he does or doesn't have that will shuffle him off this mortal coil like everyone else.
I find it funny that the whole "well you have to remember they're a human being" argument gets trotted out when people with immense wealth or power are dying and some people aren't arse licking on their way out, but when people are homeless or are fleeing a country and just trying to survive or are being bombed to death that is met by a mere shrug. People crossing the channel are husbands, fathers, mothers, daughters etc. but on any day here you can probably find someone who would cheer their boat sinking and demand them to be flogged if they did make it to our soil.
Here's hoping something is seriously wrong with Chaz and Wills, so we enter the funniest timeline of King George and Prince Regent Harry or Prince Regent Andrew.
I have a heart, so my hope is that William baulks at the prospect of becoming Monarch, and does a runner to join his brother. He clearly doesn't like being in the public eye.
If the two brothers both removed themselves, and their children, from the succession, then the Commons would have to act to avoid a King Andrew, and once you make it clear to people that we've been choosing the Monarch for centuries, they might decide they want to play some part in the process directly.
I think I can agree with that in general - although I would personally argue we should demand democracy for our head of state rather than hope it turns up. But it is clear to me that Wills is not going to abdicate, otherwise he would have made it very clear already.
I'm down with demanding a Republic, but I wish my fellow Republicans would not be so stupid to disgust the people they'd need to convince by wishing death upon the line of succession.
How to win friends and influence people it is not.
But the idea of monarchy is so grotesque - why should I have to pamper the idea that these people are somehow genetically superior, either because of god or breeding, to lead us? People wish death, in a 12 Angry Men way, on people all the time. Claims of deity backed state leadership is some Kim Jong Un shit that we should have left behind the first time we chopped off a kind's head (not that Cromwell was a good person, before people start claiming I'd defend his positions on anything).
And you’ve managed to miss the fact that nearly every time someone acts on those wishes, the result for nearly everyone is worse? Much worse.
The Prince of Wales has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter, Kensington Palace has said.
William had been due to attend a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece at Windsor Castle.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continues to be doing well.
The Prince of Wales called the Greek royal family who are attending the service to let them know he was unable to attend.
The late King Constantine of Greece, who died in January last year, was William's godfather.
I'm not convinced that the King's cancer is trivial - I think it might be rather serious. No evidence, just a gut feel.
No idea of what was wrong with Catherine (hysterectomy would be likely?) but its concerning that her recovery seems a bit slow.
I fear you could be right
The fact he was reported as weeping at the "get well" letters is concerning. We can't afford to lose more royals. Eeek
I've never liked the chap. He's always struck me as profoundly thick, and I've had a story related from a colleague who knew one of his tutors who said the same. But he had to wait an age for his 'turn', and only got it with loss of his mother, and may well be about to go too, so he has my sympathies.
But you know, there are plenty more Royals. Wills and Kat knocked out an heir and two spares, and there is always Andrew...
Well, there are a few people I don't particularly like, but I wouldn't shrug off the news that they had a horrible form of terminal cancer. It's a terrible fate for them and devastating for their families.
No-one deserves that. Not your worst enemy.
I wish him a full recovery.
Same, he’s a husband, father, grandfather, brother, uncle etc.
Whose had enormous wealth and privilege his whole life - I don't know him neither do I particularly need to care what kind of bum cancer he does or doesn't have that will shuffle him off this mortal coil like everyone else.
I find it funny that the whole "well you have to remember they're a human being" argument gets trotted out when people with immense wealth or power are dying and some people aren't arse licking on their way out, but when people are homeless or are fleeing a country and just trying to survive or are being bombed to death that is met by a mere shrug. People crossing the channel are husbands, fathers, mothers, daughters etc. but on any day here you can probably find someone who would cheer their boat sinking and demand them to be flogged if they did make it to our soil.
Here's hoping something is seriously wrong with Chaz and Wills, so we enter the funniest timeline of King George and Prince Regent Harry or Prince Regent Andrew.
You are wishing serious ill-health and death on fairly blameless human beings. Chas and Wills are not Vlad Putin
That crosses a line and you should apologise and withdraw, before you get moderated
Lol, no. I don't care if monarchs croak, why should I?
Because you make yourself look like a jerk?
Right - because my self worth comes from the opinions of PBers. I find some of the conversation here interesting, although I find much more of it hugely confusing if somewhat enlightening on what and how right wingers think, but I don't really care if people here think I am a bad person for not caring if the king or the prince of wales die.
Nonetheless, you now look like a total jerk. So well done you
I would say he's a deeply unpleasant individual, but I think that'd be unfair: he hasn't grown up yet.
He gives every impression of being a precocious teenager who read some Marx at the age of fifteen, topped up by a sprinkling of Chomsky in Sixth Form, and has since set his philosophy by it to the point it's defined his identity.
He been able to indulge in this ever since because he lives the life of a fairly typical privileged bien pensant left-winger - living in a house provided gratis by his Dad, and working in a cosseted academic bubble - so he's never had to revisit his assumptions, and simply proclaims them ever more loudly and angrily when they are challenged, usually with a lot of turgid verbiage.
One sort of feels sorry for him, really.
Apparently the guy who treatened me to a fist fight in the honour of his maj wants to talk about my loud and angry words. Is this how your therapist suggested you deal with the urge to "take this outside" - create a fantasy that means you can contain the anger rather than act on it? I personally prefer therapies that take aim at the causes of things, but sometimes what Pratchett calls "headology" works.
I love how the whole "I live in a house my Dad owns" thing has become a tale of the inherent wealth and privilege I have an not an outcome of my mother's death and years of me fighting with my dad about not treating it like a tomb to her memory - which included the best part of a year of my life when I was literally homeless and sofa surfing because I refused to move back in with him and couldn't go elsewhere - but hey ho, here's what comes of brevity.
Life's tough. We all have sob stories. However you are more privileged than most and ripping on Casino without recognising the cause of his reaction is a little pissy. He made the point people would not speak like that in person and he is right. Also he gracefully apologised when he came back and explained why.
The Prince of Wales has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter, Kensington Palace has said.
William had been due to attend a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece at Windsor Castle.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continues to be doing well.
The Prince of Wales called the Greek royal family who are attending the service to let them know he was unable to attend.
The late King Constantine of Greece, who died in January last year, was William's godfather.
I'm not convinced that the King's cancer is trivial - I think it might be rather serious. No evidence, just a gut feel.
No idea of what was wrong with Catherine (hysterectomy would be likely?) but its concerning that her recovery seems a bit slow.
I fear you could be right
The fact he was reported as weeping at the "get well" letters is concerning. We can't afford to lose more royals. Eeek
I've never liked the chap. He's always struck me as profoundly thick, and I've had a story related from a colleague who knew one of his tutors who said the same. But he had to wait an age for his 'turn', and only got it with loss of his mother, and may well be about to go too, so he has my sympathies.
But you know, there are plenty more Royals. Wills and Kat knocked out an heir and two spares, and there is always Andrew...
Well, there are a few people I don't particularly like, but I wouldn't shrug off the news that they had a horrible form of terminal cancer. It's a terrible fate for them and devastating for their families.
No-one deserves that. Not your worst enemy.
I wish him a full recovery.
Same, he’s a husband, father, grandfather, brother, uncle etc.
Whose had enormous wealth and privilege his whole life - I don't know him neither do I particularly need to care what kind of bum cancer he does or doesn't have that will shuffle him off this mortal coil like everyone else.
I find it funny that the whole "well you have to remember they're a human being" argument gets trotted out when people with immense wealth or power are dying and some people aren't arse licking on their way out, but when people are homeless or are fleeing a country and just trying to survive or are being bombed to death that is met by a mere shrug. People crossing the channel are husbands, fathers, mothers, daughters etc. but on any day here you can probably find someone who would cheer their boat sinking and demand them to be flogged if they did make it to our soil.
Here's hoping something is seriously wrong with Chaz and Wills, so we enter the funniest timeline of King George and Prince Regent Harry or Prince Regent Andrew.
You are wishing serious ill-health and death on fairly blameless human beings. Chas and Wills are not Vlad Putin
That crosses a line and you should apologise and withdraw, before you get moderated
Lol, no. I don't care if monarchs croak, why should I?
Because you make yourself look like a jerk?
Right - because my self worth comes from the opinions of PBers. I find some of the conversation here interesting, although I find much more of it hugely confusing if somewhat enlightening on what and how right wingers think, but I don't really care if people here think I am a bad person for not caring if the king or the prince of wales die.
Nonetheless, you now look like a total jerk. So well done you
I would say he's a deeply unpleasant individual, but I think that'd be unfair: he hasn't grown up yet.
He gives every impression of being a precocious teenager who read some Marx at the age of fifteen, topped up by a sprinkling of Chomsky in Sixth Form, and has since set his philosophy by it to the point it's defined his identity.
He been able to indulge in this ever since because he lives the life of a fairly typical privileged bien pensant left-winger - living in a house provided gratis by his Dad, and working in a cosseted academic bubble - so he's never had to revisit his assumptions, and simply proclaims them ever more loudly and angrily when they are challenged, usually with a lot of turgid verbiage.
One sort of feels sorry for him, really.
Apparently the guy who treatened me to a fist fight in the honour of his maj wants to talk about my loud and angry words. Is this how your therapist suggested you deal with the urge to "take this outside" - create a fantasy that means you can contain the anger rather than act on it? I personally prefer therapies that take aim at the causes of things, but sometimes what Pratchett calls "headology" works.
I love how the whole "I live in a house my Dad owns" thing has become a tale of the inherent wealth and privilege I have an not an outcome of my mother's death and years of me fighting with my dad about not treating it like a tomb to her memory - which included the best part of a year of my life when I was literally homeless and sofa surfing because I refused to move back in with him and couldn't go elsewhere - but hey ho, here's what comes of brevity.
Again, no one is challenging any of this. We are merely pointing out that it is not Site Etiquette to wish ill health and death on other pb-ers and public figures (with the possible exception of execrable tyrants like Putin). Chas and Wills might be odious symbols of privilege, and represent an institution you detest, nonetheless they are human beings and your words were cruel and unpleasant
And consider this, you've got me, not exactly know for mincing words, and Nick Palmer (your only other fellow communist on the site, albeit ex in his case) both advising you to reword and say sorry
Just say sorry! Withdraw. It's not hard, and it's good for the soul, and then you can go back to giving us your often quite interesting and decisive opinions, even if I generally disagree
But I'm not sorry for what I said.
Also, again, I prefer it when you call me an idiot or something (which you typically do when you've decided that the woke mind virus is going to be the end of civilisation or such and I say how ridiculous that is) rather than calling me interesting.
The Prince of Wales has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter, Kensington Palace has said.
William had been due to attend a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece at Windsor Castle.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continues to be doing well.
The Prince of Wales called the Greek royal family who are attending the service to let them know he was unable to attend.
The late King Constantine of Greece, who died in January last year, was William's godfather.
I'm not convinced that the King's cancer is trivial - I think it might be rather serious. No evidence, just a gut feel.
No idea of what was wrong with Catherine (hysterectomy would be likely?) but its concerning that her recovery seems a bit slow.
I fear you could be right
The fact he was reported as weeping at the "get well" letters is concerning. We can't afford to lose more royals. Eeek
I've never liked the chap. He's always struck me as profoundly thick, and I've had a story related from a colleague who knew one of his tutors who said the same. But he had to wait an age for his 'turn', and only got it with loss of his mother, and may well be about to go too, so he has my sympathies.
But you know, there are plenty more Royals. Wills and Kat knocked out an heir and two spares, and there is always Andrew...
Well, there are a few people I don't particularly like, but I wouldn't shrug off the news that they had a horrible form of terminal cancer. It's a terrible fate for them and devastating for their families.
No-one deserves that. Not your worst enemy.
I wish him a full recovery.
Same, he’s a husband, father, grandfather, brother, uncle etc.
Whose had enormous wealth and privilege his whole life - I don't know him neither do I particularly need to care what kind of bum cancer he does or doesn't have that will shuffle him off this mortal coil like everyone else.
I find it funny that the whole "well you have to remember they're a human being" argument gets trotted out when people with immense wealth or power are dying and some people aren't arse licking on their way out, but when people are homeless or are fleeing a country and just trying to survive or are being bombed to death that is met by a mere shrug. People crossing the channel are husbands, fathers, mothers, daughters etc. but on any day here you can probably find someone who would cheer their boat sinking and demand them to be flogged if they did make it to our soil.
Here's hoping something is seriously wrong with Chaz and Wills, so we enter the funniest timeline of King George and Prince Regent Harry or Prince Regent Andrew.
I have a heart, so my hope is that William baulks at the prospect of becoming Monarch, and does a runner to join his brother. He clearly doesn't like being in the public eye.
If the two brothers both removed themselves, and their children, from the succession, then the Commons would have to act to avoid a King Andrew, and once you make it clear to people that we've been choosing the Monarch for centuries, they might decide they want to play some part in the process directly.
I think I can agree with that in general - although I would personally argue we should demand democracy for our head of state rather than hope it turns up. But it is clear to me that Wills is not going to abdicate, otherwise he would have made it very clear already.
I'm down with demanding a Republic, but I wish my fellow Republicans would not be so stupid to disgust the people they'd need to convince by wishing death upon the line of succession.
How to win friends and influence people it is not.
But the idea of monarchy is so grotesque - why should I have to pamper the idea that these people are somehow genetically superior, either because of god or breeding, to lead us? People wish death, in a 12 Angry Men way, on people all the time. Claims of deity backed state leadership is some Kim Jong Un shit that we should have left behind the first time we chopped off a kind's head (not that Cromwell was a good person, before people start claiming I'd defend his positions on anything).
Monarchy is more a question of legitimacy than superiority.
Looking past the fact that 148grss seems to be the type of borderline maniac loner/future serial killer that makes this site an embarrassment to be on, is Prince William actually ill?
Me, a republican, who cares not for the life of the monarch: potential stochastic terrorist.
Posters here, calling immigration an invasion and often going off on wild right wing rants, including literally asking me to solve our disagreements with a fist fight: the reputable norms of PB.
You’re actively wishing for them to have a serious, painful illness that kills them, then saying you’ll laugh if it happens. You sound like a complete nutter who should be on meds/under some kind of surveillance; the next Scarlet Blake. Either that or a lonely troll
He's expressing a political wish. The extinction of the monarchy. How they go is immaterial. I missed the bit about the painful exit.
And I am always amused at any PB poster using the term "lonely", which is similar to saying that they are so sad that they are posting on PB when they could be doing something far more exciting. What's your excuse.
I will readily confess to being lonely. It's my last night in Bangkok and I can't wait to get on that plane tomorrow
It's been a long sunny winter of excellent Khmer food, lots of hard hard work, and serious if productive solitude. Not all fun and games
But - ins'allah - the fun and the travels start again tomorrow.....
The Prince of Wales has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter, Kensington Palace has said.
William had been due to attend a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece at Windsor Castle.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continues to be doing well.
The Prince of Wales called the Greek royal family who are attending the service to let them know he was unable to attend.
The late King Constantine of Greece, who died in January last year, was William's godfather.
I'm not convinced that the King's cancer is trivial - I think it might be rather serious. No evidence, just a gut feel.
No idea of what was wrong with Catherine (hysterectomy would be likely?) but its concerning that her recovery seems a bit slow.
Couldn't possibly have been a hysterectomy - if done laparoscopically, that's day surgery or overnight at most. Even with open surgery, she'd have been home in four or five days.
But Catherine was in hospital for 13 days!
The most likely things which could explain a stay of that length are a bowel resection with major complications, or a liver transplant.
My wife had a hysterectomy in 1979 and was in hospital for 2 weeks and took months to recover having been plunged into immediate menopause
Any hysterectomy is major surgery and needs a long recovery period even without the menopause
Mrs C remarked a couple of weeks ago that Kate looked thin. Not slim, but thin. Ill thin.
She certainly did look very thin
I wonder if she might have something like Crohn’s disease . That would be in the abdominal area and would explain weight loss .
Looking past the fact that 148grss seems to be the type of borderline maniac loner/future serial killer that makes this site an embarrassment to be on, is Prince William actually ill?
Me, a republican, who cares not for the life of the monarch: potential stochastic terrorist.
Posters here, calling immigration an invasion and often going off on wild right wing rants, including literally asking me to solve our disagreements with a fist fight: the reputable norms of PB.
You’re actively wishing for them to have a serious, painful illness that kills them, then saying you’ll laugh if it happens. You sound like a complete nutter who should be on meds/under some kind of surveillance; the next Scarlet Blake. Either that or a lonely troll
Don't mention Scarlet Blake to him, he will be banging on about trans rights for the next week.
Looking past the fact that 148grss seems to be the type of borderline maniac loner/future serial killer that makes this site an embarrassment to be on, is Prince William actually ill?
Me, a republican, who cares not for the life of the monarch: potential stochastic terrorist.
Posters here, calling immigration an invasion and often going off on wild right wing rants, including literally asking me to solve our disagreements with a fist fight: the reputable norms of PB.
You’re actively wishing for them to have a serious, painful illness that kills them, then saying you’ll laugh if it happens. You sound like a complete nutter who should be on meds/under some kind of surveillance; the next Scarlet Blake. Either that or a lonely troll
I didn't say painful - that's your interpretation. And I said it would be funny because of the outcome - Prince Regent Harry or Andrew - not because of their deaths (although I would not be sad at the prospect of their deaths).
But sure, the people here who want to build a wall at Calais and let children die in Gaza by their thousands or want to round up every Muslim and chuck them out of the country are the people who truly care about the sanctity of life and the impact that words have on another human who we briefly stand in brotherhood with during our short time on this small blue dot, not me, who hates one family of rich fucks who claim the right to rule me based on their bloodline. I am, indeed, the awful degenerate here.
Yes, you are.
The king has cancer, most people would agree that’s a painful illness, and you are hoping he dies from it, and say you’ll laugh when it happens. I’m not making this up, you’ve said it
The Prince of Wales has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter, Kensington Palace has said.
William had been due to attend a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece at Windsor Castle.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continues to be doing well.
The Prince of Wales called the Greek royal family who are attending the service to let them know he was unable to attend.
The late King Constantine of Greece, who died in January last year, was William's godfather.
I'm not convinced that the King's cancer is trivial - I think it might be rather serious. No evidence, just a gut feel.
No idea of what was wrong with Catherine (hysterectomy would be likely?) but its concerning that her recovery seems a bit slow.
I fear you could be right
The fact he was reported as weeping at the "get well" letters is concerning. We can't afford to lose more royals. Eeek
I've never liked the chap. He's always struck me as profoundly thick, and I've had a story related from a colleague who knew one of his tutors who said the same. But he had to wait an age for his 'turn', and only got it with loss of his mother, and may well be about to go too, so he has my sympathies.
But you know, there are plenty more Royals. Wills and Kat knocked out an heir and two spares, and there is always Andrew...
Well, there are a few people I don't particularly like, but I wouldn't shrug off the news that they had a horrible form of terminal cancer. It's a terrible fate for them and devastating for their families.
No-one deserves that. Not your worst enemy.
I wish him a full recovery.
Same, he’s a husband, father, grandfather, brother, uncle etc.
Whose had enormous wealth and privilege his whole life - I don't know him neither do I particularly need to care what kind of bum cancer he does or doesn't have that will shuffle him off this mortal coil like everyone else.
I find it funny that the whole "well you have to remember they're a human being" argument gets trotted out when people with immense wealth or power are dying and some people aren't arse licking on their way out, but when people are homeless or are fleeing a country and just trying to survive or are being bombed to death that is met by a mere shrug. People crossing the channel are husbands, fathers, mothers, daughters etc. but on any day here you can probably find someone who would cheer their boat sinking and demand them to be flogged if they did make it to our soil.
Here's hoping something is seriously wrong with Chaz and Wills, so we enter the funniest timeline of King George and Prince Regent Harry or Prince Regent Andrew.
I have a heart, so my hope is that William baulks at the prospect of becoming Monarch, and does a runner to join his brother. He clearly doesn't like being in the public eye.
If the two brothers both removed themselves, and their children, from the succession, then the Commons would have to act to avoid a King Andrew, and once you make it clear to people that we've been choosing the Monarch for centuries, they might decide they want to play some part in the process directly.
I think I can agree with that in general - although I would personally argue we should demand democracy for our head of state rather than hope it turns up. But it is clear to me that Wills is not going to abdicate, otherwise he would have made it very clear already.
I'm down with demanding a Republic, but I wish my fellow Republicans would not be so stupid to disgust the people they'd need to convince by wishing death upon the line of succession.
How to win friends and influence people it is not.
But the idea of monarchy is so grotesque - why should I have to pamper the idea that these people are somehow genetically superior, either because of god or breeding, to lead us? People wish death, in a 12 Angry Men way, on people all the time. Claims of deity backed state leadership is some Kim Jong Un shit that we should have left behind the first time we chopped off a kind's head (not that Cromwell was a good person, before people start claiming I'd defend his positions on anything).
The monarch is a well paid mascot. I don’t think most people have an issue with that
And also far preferable to the inevitable President Johnson or President Blair alternative
Looking past the fact that 148grss seems to be the type of borderline maniac loner/future serial killer that makes this site an embarrassment to be on, is Prince William actually ill?
Me, a republican, who cares not for the life of the monarch: potential stochastic terrorist.
Posters here, calling immigration an invasion and often going off on wild right wing rants, including literally asking me to solve our disagreements with a fist fight: the reputable norms of PB.
You’re actively wishing for them to have a serious, painful illness that kills them, then saying you’ll laugh if it happens. You sound like a complete nutter who should be on meds/under some kind of surveillance; the next Scarlet Blake. Either that or a lonely troll
He's expressing a political wish. The extinction of the monarchy. How they go is immaterial. I missed the bit about the painful exit.
And I am always amused at any PB poster using the term "lonely", which is similar to saying that they are so sad that they are posting on PB when they could be doing something far more exciting. What's your excuse.
I will readily confess to being lonely. It's my last night in Bangkok and I can't wait to get on that plane tomorrow
It's been a long sunny winter of excellent Khmer food, lots of hard hard work, and serious if productive solitude. Not all fun and games
But - ins'allah - the fun and the travels start again tomorrow.....
I hope you have a great time.
What gets me is when people say (and they do regularly, to you quite a bit, for example) words to the effect of why are you posting on PB and not doing something more interesting, you sad, lonely fool. With the implication that their own life is bursting with excitement and challenges and whatnot. Using the word "lonely" falls into this category.
It won't be the same, according to the Continued Identity Theory:
"This solution (proposed by Kate, Ernest et al.) sees an object as staying the same as long as it continuously exists under the same identity, and it is never fully transformed at the same time. For instance, a house, whose front wall is destroyed and replaced at year 1, the ceiling replaced at year 2, et cætera until every part of the house has been replaced. The house will still be designated as being the same. However, if every wall, the floor and the ceiling are destroyed and replaced at the same time, it will be known as a new house."
Last year I sent a 2016 Macbook Pro off to Apple who sent it off to Czechia to replace the screen (under special warranty program due to design fault). Six weeks later it bricked, so I took it back, and they sent it back to Czechia to replace the bottom assembly under "continuing repair". While doing that, they found the battery was swollen, so replaced the top assembly. Since there are only those three assemblies, I now have a 2016 Macbook Pro entirely from 2023. Total cost: £0. (On the matter of Theseus, it feels like the same object to me.)
The Prince of Wales has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter, Kensington Palace has said.
William had been due to attend a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece at Windsor Castle.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continues to be doing well.
The Prince of Wales called the Greek royal family who are attending the service to let them know he was unable to attend.
The late King Constantine of Greece, who died in January last year, was William's godfather.
I'm not convinced that the King's cancer is trivial - I think it might be rather serious. No evidence, just a gut feel.
No idea of what was wrong with Catherine (hysterectomy would be likely?) but its concerning that her recovery seems a bit slow.
I fear you could be right
The fact he was reported as weeping at the "get well" letters is concerning. We can't afford to lose more royals. Eeek
I've never liked the chap. He's always struck me as profoundly thick, and I've had a story related from a colleague who knew one of his tutors who said the same. But he had to wait an age for his 'turn', and only got it with loss of his mother, and may well be about to go too, so he has my sympathies.
But you know, there are plenty more Royals. Wills and Kat knocked out an heir and two spares, and there is always Andrew...
Well, there are a few people I don't particularly like, but I wouldn't shrug off the news that they had a horrible form of terminal cancer. It's a terrible fate for them and devastating for their families.
No-one deserves that. Not your worst enemy.
I wish him a full recovery.
Same, he’s a husband, father, grandfather, brother, uncle etc.
Whose had enormous wealth and privilege his whole life - I don't know him neither do I particularly need to care what kind of bum cancer he does or doesn't have that will shuffle him off this mortal coil like everyone else.
I find it funny that the whole "well you have to remember they're a human being" argument gets trotted out when people with immense wealth or power are dying and some people aren't arse licking on their way out, but when people are homeless or are fleeing a country and just trying to survive or are being bombed to death that is met by a mere shrug. People crossing the channel are husbands, fathers, mothers, daughters etc. but on any day here you can probably find someone who would cheer their boat sinking and demand them to be flogged if they did make it to our soil.
Here's hoping something is seriously wrong with Chaz and Wills, so we enter the funniest timeline of King George and Prince Regent Harry or Prince Regent Andrew.
You are wishing serious ill-health and death on fairly blameless human beings. Chas and Wills are not Vlad Putin
That crosses a line and you should apologise and withdraw, before you get moderated
Lol, no. I don't care if monarchs croak, why should I?
Because you make yourself look like a jerk?
Right - because my self worth comes from the opinions of PBers. I find some of the conversation here interesting, although I find much more of it hugely confusing if somewhat enlightening on what and how right wingers think, but I don't really care if people here think I am a bad person for not caring if the king or the prince of wales die.
Nonetheless, you now look like a total jerk. So well done you
I would say he's a deeply unpleasant individual, but I think that'd be unfair: he hasn't grown up yet.
He gives every impression of being a precocious teenager who read some Marx at the age of fifteen, topped up by a sprinkling of Chomsky in Sixth Form, and has since set his philosophy by it to the point it's defined his identity.
He been able to indulge in this ever since because he lives the life of a fairly typical privileged bien pensant left-winger - living in a house provided gratis by his Dad, and working in a cosseted academic bubble - so he's never had to revisit his assumptions, and simply proclaims them ever more loudly and angrily when they are challenged, usually with a lot of turgid verbiage.
One sort of feels sorry for him, really.
Apparently the guy who treatened me to a fist fight in the honour of his maj wants to talk about my loud and angry words. Is this how your therapist suggested you deal with the urge to "take this outside" - create a fantasy that means you can contain the anger rather than act on it? I personally prefer therapies that take aim at the causes of things, but sometimes what Pratchett calls "headology" works.
I love how the whole "I live in a house my Dad owns" thing has become a tale of the inherent wealth and privilege I have an not an outcome of my mother's death and years of me fighting with my dad about not treating it like a tomb to her memory - which included the best part of a year of my life when I was literally homeless and sofa surfing because I refused to move back in with him and couldn't go elsewhere - but hey ho, here's what comes of brevity.
Again, no one is challenging any of this. We are merely pointing out that it is not Site Etiquette to wish ill health and death on other pb-ers and public figures (with the possible exception of execrable tyrants like Putin). Chas and Wills might be odious symbols of privilege, and represent an institution you detest, nonetheless they are human beings and your words were cruel and unpleasant
And consider this, you've got me, not exactly know for mincing words, and Nick Palmer (your only other fellow communist on the site, albeit ex in his case) both advising you to reword and say sorry
Just say sorry! Withdraw. It's not hard, and it's good for the soul, and then you can go back to giving us your often quite interesting and decisive opinions, even if I generally disagree
But I'm not sorry for what I said.
Also, again, I prefer it when you call me an idiot or something (which you typically do when you've decided that the woke mind virus is going to be the end of civilisation or such and I say how ridiculous that is) rather than calling me interesting.
OK, you're not going to apologise - you're more of an adolescent twat than I realised (not that this will concern you, for the reasons you repeat at length)
It won't be the same, according to the Continued Identity Theory:
"This solution (proposed by Kate, Ernest et al.) sees an object as staying the same as long as it continuously exists under the same identity, and it is never fully transformed at the same time. For instance, a house, whose front wall is destroyed and replaced at year 1, the ceiling replaced at year 2, et cætera until every part of the house has been replaced. The house will still be designated as being the same. However, if every wall, the floor and the ceiling are destroyed and replaced at the same time, it will be known as a new house."
However, in year 1 I replace the head of grandfather's axe, put it aside, and in year 2 replace the handle and put it aside.
I then also construct an axe of the two old parts I have put aside.
Are there now 2 grandfather's axes or Is the replacement parts the proper one or Does the reconstruction from the old parts form the proper one or Is neither the proper one - it has been made extinct?
Looking past the fact that 148grss seems to be the type of borderline maniac loner/future serial killer that makes this site an embarrassment to be on, is Prince William actually ill?
Me, a republican, who cares not for the life of the monarch: potential stochastic terrorist.
Posters here, calling immigration an invasion and often going off on wild right wing rants, including literally asking me to solve our disagreements with a fist fight: the reputable norms of PB.
You’re actively wishing for them to have a serious, painful illness that kills them, then saying you’ll laugh if it happens. You sound like a complete nutter who should be on meds/under some kind of surveillance; the next Scarlet Blake. Either that or a lonely troll
I didn't say painful - that's your interpretation. And I said it would be funny because of the outcome - Prince Regent Harry or Andrew - not because of their deaths (although I would not be sad at the prospect of their deaths).
But sure, the people here who want to build a wall at Calais and let children die in Gaza by their thousands or want to round up every Muslim and chuck them out of the country are the people who truly care about the sanctity of life and the impact that words have on another human who we briefly stand in brotherhood with during our short time on this small blue dot, not me, who hates one family of rich fucks who claim the right to rule me based on their bloodline. I am, indeed, the awful degenerate here.
Yes, you are.
The king has cancer, most people would agree that’s a painful illness, and you are hoping he dies from it, and say you’ll laugh when it happens. I’m not making this up, you’ve said it
We also do not know what the cancer is he has, or how serious it is. Whether or not you are a monarchist, and I am not, should not matter. The King, just like any cancer sufferer, should be wished well.
The Prince of Wales has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter, Kensington Palace has said.
William had been due to attend a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece at Windsor Castle.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continues to be doing well.
The Prince of Wales called the Greek royal family who are attending the service to let them know he was unable to attend.
The late King Constantine of Greece, who died in January last year, was William's godfather.
I'm not convinced that the King's cancer is trivial - I think it might be rather serious. No evidence, just a gut feel.
No idea of what was wrong with Catherine (hysterectomy would be likely?) but its concerning that her recovery seems a bit slow.
I fear you could be right
The fact he was reported as weeping at the "get well" letters is concerning. We can't afford to lose more royals. Eeek
I've never liked the chap. He's always struck me as profoundly thick, and I've had a story related from a colleague who knew one of his tutors who said the same. But he had to wait an age for his 'turn', and only got it with loss of his mother, and may well be about to go too, so he has my sympathies.
But you know, there are plenty more Royals. Wills and Kat knocked out an heir and two spares, and there is always Andrew...
Well, there are a few people I don't particularly like, but I wouldn't shrug off the news that they had a horrible form of terminal cancer. It's a terrible fate for them and devastating for their families.
No-one deserves that. Not your worst enemy.
I wish him a full recovery.
Same, he’s a husband, father, grandfather, brother, uncle etc.
Whose had enormous wealth and privilege his whole life - I don't know him neither do I particularly need to care what kind of bum cancer he does or doesn't have that will shuffle him off this mortal coil like everyone else.
I find it funny that the whole "well you have to remember they're a human being" argument gets trotted out when people with immense wealth or power are dying and some people aren't arse licking on their way out, but when people are homeless or are fleeing a country and just trying to survive or are being bombed to death that is met by a mere shrug. People crossing the channel are husbands, fathers, mothers, daughters etc. but on any day here you can probably find someone who would cheer their boat sinking and demand them to be flogged if they did make it to our soil.
Here's hoping something is seriously wrong with Chaz and Wills, so we enter the funniest timeline of King George and Prince Regent Harry or Prince Regent Andrew.
I have a heart, so my hope is that William baulks at the prospect of becoming Monarch, and does a runner to join his brother. He clearly doesn't like being in the public eye.
If the two brothers both removed themselves, and their children, from the succession, then the Commons would have to act to avoid a King Andrew, and once you make it clear to people that we've been choosing the Monarch for centuries, they might decide they want to play some part in the process directly.
I think I can agree with that in general - although I would personally argue we should demand democracy for our head of state rather than hope it turns up. But it is clear to me that Wills is not going to abdicate, otherwise he would have made it very clear already.
I'm down with demanding a Republic, but I wish my fellow Republicans would not be so stupid to disgust the people they'd need to convince by wishing death upon the line of succession.
How to win friends and influence people it is not.
But the idea of monarchy is so grotesque - why should I have to pamper the idea that these people are somehow genetically superior, either because of god or breeding, to lead us? People wish death, in a 12 Angry Men way, on people all the time. Claims of deity backed state leadership is some Kim Jong Un shit that we should have left behind the first time we chopped off a kind's head (not that Cromwell was a good person, before people start claiming I'd defend his positions on anything).
The monarch is a well paid mascot. I don’t think most people have an issue with that
And also far preferable to the inevitable President Johnson or President Blair alternative
why - at least they won some form of popularity contest rather than being anointed at birth
“I’m getting sick and tired of hearing about morality, our moral obligation... There’s a point where you are incapable of meeting moral obligations that exist worldwide.”
He said that in 1975 about the US's obligations to South Vietnam. But he is essentially correct. It is not the duty of the US or the west to fix every wrong and impose our view of what is moral all over the world. The US does not have an obligation to act just because it can.
Great to see that we've reached the trawling the 70s to discredit X stage of the presidential electoral cycle.
The Prince of Wales has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter, Kensington Palace has said.
William had been due to attend a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece at Windsor Castle.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continues to be doing well.
The Prince of Wales called the Greek royal family who are attending the service to let them know he was unable to attend.
The late King Constantine of Greece, who died in January last year, was William's godfather.
I'm not convinced that the King's cancer is trivial - I think it might be rather serious. No evidence, just a gut feel.
No idea of what was wrong with Catherine (hysterectomy would be likely?) but its concerning that her recovery seems a bit slow.
Couldn't possibly have been a hysterectomy - if done laparoscopically, that's day surgery or overnight at most. Even with open surgery, she'd have been home in four or five days.
But Catherine was in hospital for 13 days!
The most likely things which could explain a stay of that length are a bowel resection with major complications, or a liver transplant.
My wife had a hysterectomy in 1979 and was in hospital for 2 weeks and took months to recover having been plunged into immediate menopause
Any hysterectomy is major surgery and needs a long recovery period even without the menopause
Mrs C remarked a couple of weeks ago that Kate looked thin. Not slim, but thin. Ill thin.
She certainly did look very thin
I wonder if she might have something like Crohn’s disease . That would be in the abdominal area and would explain weight loss .
It is possible but I would still think a hysterectomy was more likely but it is all speculation at present
Looking past the fact that 148grss seems to be the type of borderline maniac loner/future serial killer that makes this site an embarrassment to be on, is Prince William actually ill?
Me, a republican, who cares not for the life of the monarch: potential stochastic terrorist.
Posters here, calling immigration an invasion and often going off on wild right wing rants, including literally asking me to solve our disagreements with a fist fight: the reputable norms of PB.
You’re actively wishing for them to have a serious, painful illness that kills them, then saying you’ll laugh if it happens. You sound like a complete nutter who should be on meds/under some kind of surveillance; the next Scarlet Blake. Either that or a lonely troll
He's expressing a political wish. The extinction of the monarchy. How they go is immaterial. I missed the bit about the painful exit.
And I am always amused at any PB poster using the term "lonely", which is similar to saying that they are so sad that they are posting on PB when they could be doing something far more exciting. What's your excuse.
Dying of cancer involves some kind of pain I think. Saying you hope it happens to someone, and you will laugh if it does, sounds absolutely deranged
I used the term ‘loner’ actually, which is different from ‘lonely’ in many ways. Happy you’re amused anyway, it’s a nice feeling, who cares how you got there.
Alan Bates has just said to the select committee the Post Office is a dead duck and should be sold for a pound to Amazon and within a few years you would have one of the best networks in the world
Make him PM
More money for Big Tech? Sounds like a Tory PM.
The Post Office will never be anywhere near as customer friendly and outstanding delivery service as Amazon and it is the customer that matters
The PO doesn't do deliveries now, Royal Mail does and is a separate company and has been for a decade.
RM also does the universal service which Amazon doesn't, so you get letters and parcels sent for the same price whether to inner cities or outer rural areas
Looking past the fact that 148grss seems to be the type of borderline maniac loner/future serial killer that makes this site an embarrassment to be on, is Prince William actually ill?
Me, a republican, who cares not for the life of the monarch: potential stochastic terrorist.
Posters here, calling immigration an invasion and often going off on wild right wing rants, including literally asking me to solve our disagreements with a fist fight: the reputable norms of PB.
You’re actively wishing for them to have a serious, painful illness that kills them, then saying you’ll laugh if it happens. You sound like a complete nutter who should be on meds/under some kind of surveillance; the next Scarlet Blake. Either that or a lonely troll
I didn't say painful - that's your interpretation. And I said it would be funny because of the outcome - Prince Regent Harry or Andrew - not because of their deaths (although I would not be sad at the prospect of their deaths).
But sure, the people here who want to build a wall at Calais and let children die in Gaza by their thousands or want to round up every Muslim and chuck them out of the country are the people who truly care about the sanctity of life and the impact that words have on another human who we briefly stand in brotherhood with during our short time on this small blue dot, not me, who hates one family of rich fucks who claim the right to rule me based on their bloodline. I am, indeed, the awful degenerate here.
Yes, you are.
The king has cancer, most people would agree that’s a painful illness, and you are hoping he dies from it, and say you’ll laugh when it happens. I’m not making this up, you’ve said it
It is perfectly legitimate, on a political betting site, to wish for the demise of a particular political system. As for the pain well you can't make an omelette without breaking eggs and in the broad sweep of history it doesn't really matter how someone actually died at the sharp end.
I am intrigued, however, by what "for personal reasons" could mean for the heir to the throne.
Needs to pick up the kids/walk the dog/wait in for the plumber/take the ebay package to the post office.
These don't quite ring true.
Something to do with Kate, is my guess, and not in a good way
I hope I am wrong, obvs
I actually LIKE some of the royals (inasmuch as you can like public figures you have met only once or never), and that definitely includes Kate. She is impeccable in the role, despite much sneering and snobbery. She seems to have happy healthy kids, which suggests a good mother
The Prince of Wales has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter, Kensington Palace has said.
William had been due to attend a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece at Windsor Castle.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continues to be doing well.
The Prince of Wales called the Greek royal family who are attending the service to let them know he was unable to attend.
The late King Constantine of Greece, who died in January last year, was William's godfather.
I'm not convinced that the King's cancer is trivial - I think it might be rather serious. No evidence, just a gut feel.
No idea of what was wrong with Catherine (hysterectomy would be likely?) but its concerning that her recovery seems a bit slow.
I fear you could be right
The fact he was reported as weeping at the "get well" letters is concerning. We can't afford to lose more royals. Eeek
I've never liked the chap. He's always struck me as profoundly thick, and I've had a story related from a colleague who knew one of his tutors who said the same. But he had to wait an age for his 'turn', and only got it with loss of his mother, and may well be about to go too, so he has my sympathies.
But you know, there are plenty more Royals. Wills and Kat knocked out an heir and two spares, and there is always Andrew...
Well, there are a few people I don't particularly like, but I wouldn't shrug off the news that they had a horrible form of terminal cancer. It's a terrible fate for them and devastating for their families.
No-one deserves that. Not your worst enemy.
I wish him a full recovery.
Same, he’s a husband, father, grandfather, brother, uncle etc.
Whose had enormous wealth and privilege his whole life - I don't know him neither do I particularly need to care what kind of bum cancer he does or doesn't have that will shuffle him off this mortal coil like everyone else.
I find it funny that the whole "well you have to remember they're a human being" argument gets trotted out when people with immense wealth or power are dying and some people aren't arse licking on their way out, but when people are homeless or are fleeing a country and just trying to survive or are being bombed to death that is met by a mere shrug. People crossing the channel are husbands, fathers, mothers, daughters etc. but on any day here you can probably find someone who would cheer their boat sinking and demand them to be flogged if they did make it to our soil.
Here's hoping something is seriously wrong with Chaz and Wills, so we enter the funniest timeline of King George and Prince Regent Harry or Prince Regent Andrew.
You are wishing serious ill-health and death on fairly blameless human beings. Chas and Wills are not Vlad Putin
That crosses a line and you should apologise and withdraw, before you get moderated
Lol, no. I don't care if monarchs croak, why should I?
Because you make yourself look like a jerk?
Right - because my self worth comes from the opinions of PBers. I find some of the conversation here interesting, although I find much more of it hugely confusing if somewhat enlightening on what and how right wingers think, but I don't really care if people here think I am a bad person for not caring if the king or the prince of wales die.
You think PB is a den of right wingers? Maybe review your own position on the scale!
I think I've seen maybe one or two people make the suggestion that capitalism is a bad system of organising the economy (from the left) in this forum? I get the vibe that the majority of PB are be "socially liberal but fiscally conservative" types who believe in the inherent goodness of capitalism as a system and like the idea of the system basically as it is now but with a better comms strategy. I guess we have some people here who would renationalise a lot of things, but that's also a majority view amongst Tory voters, so isn't the greatest bell weather any more. I don't see many people defending unions or arguing their abilities to organise should be expanded rather than reduced. That's all pretty consistent with the right wing consensus post Reagan and Thatcher. I mean Corbyn and Corbynism was only offering social democracy on par with the Scandi countries, that's barely left of centre, and that was talked about as literal Stalinism.
The Prince of Wales has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter, Kensington Palace has said.
William had been due to attend a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece at Windsor Castle.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continues to be doing well.
The Prince of Wales called the Greek royal family who are attending the service to let them know he was unable to attend.
The late King Constantine of Greece, who died in January last year, was William's godfather.
I'm not convinced that the King's cancer is trivial - I think it might be rather serious. No evidence, just a gut feel.
No idea of what was wrong with Catherine (hysterectomy would be likely?) but its concerning that her recovery seems a bit slow.
I fear you could be right
The fact he was reported as weeping at the "get well" letters is concerning. We can't afford to lose more royals. Eeek
I've never liked the chap. He's always struck me as profoundly thick, and I've had a story related from a colleague who knew one of his tutors who said the same. But he had to wait an age for his 'turn', and only got it with loss of his mother, and may well be about to go too, so he has my sympathies.
But you know, there are plenty more Royals. Wills and Kat knocked out an heir and two spares, and there is always Andrew...
Well, there are a few people I don't particularly like, but I wouldn't shrug off the news that they had a horrible form of terminal cancer. It's a terrible fate for them and devastating for their families.
No-one deserves that. Not your worst enemy.
I wish him a full recovery.
Same, he’s a husband, father, grandfather, brother, uncle etc.
Whose had enormous wealth and privilege his whole life - I don't know him neither do I particularly need to care what kind of bum cancer he does or doesn't have that will shuffle him off this mortal coil like everyone else.
I find it funny that the whole "well you have to remember they're a human being" argument gets trotted out when people with immense wealth or power are dying and some people aren't arse licking on their way out, but when people are homeless or are fleeing a country and just trying to survive or are being bombed to death that is met by a mere shrug. People crossing the channel are husbands, fathers, mothers, daughters etc. but on any day here you can probably find someone who would cheer their boat sinking and demand them to be flogged if they did make it to our soil.
Here's hoping something is seriously wrong with Chaz and Wills, so we enter the funniest timeline of King George and Prince Regent Harry or Prince Regent Andrew.
I have a heart, so my hope is that William baulks at the prospect of becoming Monarch, and does a runner to join his brother. He clearly doesn't like being in the public eye.
If the two brothers both removed themselves, and their children, from the succession, then the Commons would have to act to avoid a King Andrew, and once you make it clear to people that we've been choosing the Monarch for centuries, they might decide they want to play some part in the process directly.
Edward IXth beckons?
They could do worse.
Purely from how gaunt he looks these days, I would be worried about the state of his health too.
The govt need to get on with appointing new Counsellors of State. Perhaps it's also time to think about updating the Regency Act.
Looking past the fact that 148grss seems to be the type of borderline maniac loner/future serial killer that makes this site an embarrassment to be on, is Prince William actually ill?
Me, a republican, who cares not for the life of the monarch: potential stochastic terrorist.
Posters here, calling immigration an invasion and often going off on wild right wing rants, including literally asking me to solve our disagreements with a fist fight: the reputable norms of PB.
You’re actively wishing for them to have a serious, painful illness that kills them, then saying you’ll laugh if it happens. You sound like a complete nutter who should be on meds/under some kind of surveillance; the next Scarlet Blake. Either that or a lonely troll
He's expressing a political wish. The extinction of the monarchy. How they go is immaterial. I missed the bit about the painful exit.
And I am always amused at any PB poster using the term "lonely", which is similar to saying that they are so sad that they are posting on PB when they could be doing something far more exciting. What's your excuse.
I used the term ‘loner’ actually, which is different from ‘lonely’ in many ways. Happy you’re amused anyway, it’s a nice feeling, who cares how you got there.
"Either that or a lonely troll".
Is what you said. Just expand the post to see it there.
I mean to misquote other peoples' posts is all well and good. To misquote your own is a new take on it all.
“I’m getting sick and tired of hearing about morality, our moral obligation... There’s a point where you are incapable of meeting moral obligations that exist worldwide.”
He said that in 1975 about the US's obligations to South Vietnam. But he is essentially correct. It is not the duty of the US or the west to fix every wrong and impose our view of what is moral all over the world. The US does not have an obligation to act just because it can.
Great to see that we've reached the trawling the 70s to discredit X stage of the presidential electoral cycle.
Part of the price you pay for having a candidate who has been active on the national scene from more than 50 years. Personally. I would go for someone younger. Like Methuselah.
Looking past the fact that 148grss seems to be the type of borderline maniac loner/future serial killer that makes this site an embarrassment to be on, is Prince William actually ill?
Me, a republican, who cares not for the life of the monarch: potential stochastic terrorist.
Posters here, calling immigration an invasion and often going off on wild right wing rants, including literally asking me to solve our disagreements with a fist fight: the reputable norms of PB.
You’re actively wishing for them to have a serious, painful illness that kills them, then saying you’ll laugh if it happens. You sound like a complete nutter who should be on meds/under some kind of surveillance; the next Scarlet Blake. Either that or a lonely troll
I didn't say painful - that's your interpretation. And I said it would be funny because of the outcome - Prince Regent Harry or Andrew - not because of their deaths (although I would not be sad at the prospect of their deaths).
But sure, the people here who want to build a wall at Calais and let children die in Gaza by their thousands or want to round up every Muslim and chuck them out of the country are the people who truly care about the sanctity of life and the impact that words have on another human who we briefly stand in brotherhood with during our short time on this small blue dot, not me, who hates one family of rich fucks who claim the right to rule me based on their bloodline. I am, indeed, the awful degenerate here.
Yes, you are.
The king has cancer, most people would agree that’s a painful illness, and you are hoping he dies from it, and say you’ll laugh when it happens. I’m not making this up, you’ve said it
We also do not know what the cancer is he has, or how serious it is. Whether or not you are a monarchist, and I am not, should not matter. The King, just like any cancer sufferer, should be wished well.
The King is not just like any cancer sufferer. He is the King and the head of state. Your state. If he and every other royal dies tomorrow we would have to start again with a new system. Would it be better or worse than what we have now, who knows, but it is perfectly legitimate to want to find out.
I am intrigued, however, by what "for personal reasons" could mean for the heir to the throne.
Needs to pick up the kids/walk the dog/wait in for the plumber/take the ebay package to the post office.
These don't quite ring true.
Something to do with Kate, is my guess, and not in a good way
I hope I am wrong, obvs
I actually LIKE some of the royals (inasmuch as you can like public figures you have met only once or never), and that definitely includes Kate. She is impeccable in the role, despite much sneering and snobbery. She seems to have happy healthy kids, which suggests a good mother
The royals are lucky to have her
Individually all the royals are extremely nice has been my experience.
As an institution, while I would not change it because we are where we are, I think it does repay some analysis as to relevance and viability in the present day.
I see Lee Anderson is trotting out a free speech defence. He said on GBNews that we have free speech and he should be free to say what he thinks. Of course, he is free to say what he thinks. It’s just that what he said was (a) wrong, and (b) racist. Other people used their free speech to point this out.
When will the right stop bleating about free speech, when what they want is consequence-free speech?
I think Lee Anderson thought he was "licenced" to speak freely as a Tory to the Red Wall base in language they'd understand, and to some extent he was.
The trouble was that what he said about Khan was slanderous: if he'd just said he thought Khan was far too tolerant of the Gaza protests and not doing enough, because he had some sympathy with them, then there'd have still been some howls of outrage but he wouldn't have been suspended.
Both parts are true. They sent him off as the thickie to talk to the northern thickies. The ones with cloth caps and ferrets in their trousers. And when you live up north you think London is another country. There are plenty of northern towns that the WWC still think have been "taken over" by muslims and "Londonistan" is worse.
Of course what 25p said was defamatory. So they had to suspend him. But the reported avalanche of "15p is right" messages received by doomed MPs shows that an awful lot of WWC voters think it wasn't defamatory and "someone had to say it".
Free speech? Too many parochial bigots think they should be allowed to openly say the racist stupid defamatory stuff because its true innit? Its the loony left and woke remoaners who should be forced to shut up, not them.
That’s powerfully put
So powerful someone has ALREADY set it to the tune of an epic rock ballad. That’s incredible
I've only just listened to this and had to stop after about 20 seconds due to spitting out tea and struggling to control myself in the office.
Absolutely brilliant.
Thanks. I am quite proud, even if the software made the music
I did take time choosing the most ridiculous comment that would be the funniest, and which - in length - would fit the format of Suno AI
There's quite a choice. @Dura_Ace posts might make a half-interesting sonnet, if you pieced them together sensibly and removed all the get-my-glossary jargon.
Client asked for some ideas about editing down a block of product descriptions for back of pack on a new brand. I looked at the text, thought "too long and repetitive" and fed it into ChatGPT. The AI edit is now the working version of the text...
Every time you list something on ebay it asks if you want the AI description. Now they are not as I might write them, plus they are on average longer than a @148grss post ( ) but they certainly do the job.
Amazon have started doing AI summaries of product reviews. All well and good - in fact, genuinely useful.
...except, er, the AI appears to have singled out "noise" as being one of the most important qualities of wine:
Oh, God, yes. You're having a nice dinner party. Out comes the wine, but then no-one can hear each other over the noise! You end up having to shout over the rosé.
It won't be the same, according to the Continued Identity Theory:
"This solution (proposed by Kate, Ernest et al.) sees an object as staying the same as long as it continuously exists under the same identity, and it is never fully transformed at the same time. For instance, a house, whose front wall is destroyed and replaced at year 1, the ceiling replaced at year 2, et cætera until every part of the house has been replaced. The house will still be designated as being the same. However, if every wall, the floor and the ceiling are destroyed and replaced at the same time, it will be known as a new house."
However, in year 1 I replace the head of grandfather's axe, put it aside, and in year 2 replace the handle and put it aside.
I then also construct an axe of the two old parts I have put aside.
Are there now 2 grandfather's axes or Is the replacement parts the proper one or Does the reconstruction from the old parts form the proper one or Is neither the proper one - it has been made extinct?
This paradox is not easy.
Bentley Old Number One has raced through the chat….
Looking past the fact that 148grss seems to be the type of borderline maniac loner/future serial killer that makes this site an embarrassment to be on, is Prince William actually ill?
Me, a republican, who cares not for the life of the monarch: potential stochastic terrorist.
Posters here, calling immigration an invasion and often going off on wild right wing rants, including literally asking me to solve our disagreements with a fist fight: the reputable norms of PB.
You’re actively wishing for them to have a serious, painful illness that kills them, then saying you’ll laugh if it happens. You sound like a complete nutter who should be on meds/under some kind of surveillance; the next Scarlet Blake. Either that or a lonely troll
I didn't say painful - that's your interpretation. And I said it would be funny because of the outcome - Prince Regent Harry or Andrew - not because of their deaths (although I would not be sad at the prospect of their deaths).
But sure, the people here who want to build a wall at Calais and let children die in Gaza by their thousands or want to round up every Muslim and chuck them out of the country are the people who truly care about the sanctity of life and the impact that words have on another human who we briefly stand in brotherhood with during our short time on this small blue dot, not me, who hates one family of rich fucks who claim the right to rule me based on their bloodline. I am, indeed, the awful degenerate here.
Yes, you are.
The king has cancer, most people would agree that’s a painful illness, and you are hoping he dies from it, and say you’ll laugh when it happens. I’m not making this up, you’ve said it
It is perfectly legitimate, on a political betting site, to wish for the demise of a particular political system. As for the pain well you can't make an omelette without breaking eggs and in the broad sweep of history it doesn't really matter how someone actually died at the sharp end.
The potential demise of King Charles III and the monarchy as an institution really aren't the same.
Looking past the fact that 148grss seems to be the type of borderline maniac loner/future serial killer that makes this site an embarrassment to be on, is Prince William actually ill?
Me, a republican, who cares not for the life of the monarch: potential stochastic terrorist.
Posters here, calling immigration an invasion and often going off on wild right wing rants, including literally asking me to solve our disagreements with a fist fight: the reputable norms of PB.
You’re actively wishing for them to have a serious, painful illness that kills them, then saying you’ll laugh if it happens. You sound like a complete nutter who should be on meds/under some kind of surveillance; the next Scarlet Blake. Either that or a lonely troll
He's expressing a political wish. The extinction of the monarchy. How they go is immaterial. I missed the bit about the painful exit.
And I am always amused at any PB poster using the term "lonely", which is similar to saying that they are so sad that they are posting on PB when they could be doing something far more exciting. What's your excuse.
I used the term ‘loner’ actually, which is different from ‘lonely’ in many ways. Happy you’re amused anyway, it’s a nice feeling, who cares how you got there.
"Either that or a lonely troll".
Is what you said. Just expand the post to see it there.
I mean to misquote other peoples' posts is all well and good. To misquote your own is a new take on it all.
Oh right. . I also said “borderline maniac loner’, so it wasn’t really a misquote
Do Labour deny the policy changes they plan? After we finally limit the flow of immigration with Sunak's new limits, is Starmer going to open the flood gates again?
We've not seen the flow of immigration limited yet. The Tories frequently promise things on immigration that don't happen. The flood gates are at a record level of openness under the Tories.
I will be surprised if immigration in 2025 under a new Labour government isn't lower than 2023's figure.
Yes, because 2023 was a spike because of Hong Kongers and Ukrainians. The new income thresholds aren't a promise, they have been enacted into policy and will come live in April. Labour will open the floodgates again and it will be worse every year. And it won't be skilled, educated Hong Kongers. It will be arranged brides from the Indian subcontinent.
Yes, 2022-3 are probably going to turn out to be a spike, for those reasons and more.
The new income thresholds are real. It's a promise that the policy will achieve its aims.
I see nothing (credible) to suggest that "Labour will open the floodgates". Immigration from India has increased hugely over the course of the last 14 years of Conservative governance, so if that concerns you, don't vote Conservative.
Labour have said they will take asylum seekers from France. They will eliminate the Rwanda policy, removing a disincentive for economic migration through the asylum process. They are going to allow foreign care workers to bring all their dependents from them.
And that is the stuff we know about so far. Starmer is noticeably vague when asked about reintroducing open immigration from the EU. The floodgates will open again, just when Sunak has brought in policies to finally close them.
Looking past the fact that 148grss seems to be the type of borderline maniac loner/future serial killer that makes this site an embarrassment to be on, is Prince William actually ill?
Me, a republican, who cares not for the life of the monarch: potential stochastic terrorist.
Posters here, calling immigration an invasion and often going off on wild right wing rants, including literally asking me to solve our disagreements with a fist fight: the reputable norms of PB.
You’re actively wishing for them to have a serious, painful illness that kills them, then saying you’ll laugh if it happens. You sound like a complete nutter who should be on meds/under some kind of surveillance; the next Scarlet Blake. Either that or a lonely troll
I didn't say painful - that's your interpretation. And I said it would be funny because of the outcome - Prince Regent Harry or Andrew - not because of their deaths (although I would not be sad at the prospect of their deaths).
But sure, the people here who want to build a wall at Calais and let children die in Gaza by their thousands or want to round up every Muslim and chuck them out of the country are the people who truly care about the sanctity of life and the impact that words have on another human who we briefly stand in brotherhood with during our short time on this small blue dot, not me, who hates one family of rich fucks who claim the right to rule me based on their bloodline. I am, indeed, the awful degenerate here.
Yes, you are.
The king has cancer, most people would agree that’s a painful illness, and you are hoping he dies from it, and say you’ll laugh when it happens. I’m not making this up, you’ve said it
Depends on the cancer you have. Some, like prostate are almost painless. (Or at least mine was!) My bowel cancer could be inconvenient, but it wasn’t painful. The treatments were much more distressing.
Looking past the fact that 148grss seems to be the type of borderline maniac loner/future serial killer that makes this site an embarrassment to be on, is Prince William actually ill?
Me, a republican, who cares not for the life of the monarch: potential stochastic terrorist.
Posters here, calling immigration an invasion and often going off on wild right wing rants, including literally asking me to solve our disagreements with a fist fight: the reputable norms of PB.
You’re actively wishing for them to have a serious, painful illness that kills them, then saying you’ll laugh if it happens. You sound like a complete nutter who should be on meds/under some kind of surveillance; the next Scarlet Blake. Either that or a lonely troll
He's expressing a political wish. The extinction of the monarchy. How they go is immaterial. I missed the bit about the painful exit.
And I am always amused at any PB poster using the term "lonely", which is similar to saying that they are so sad that they are posting on PB when they could be doing something far more exciting. What's your excuse.
I used the term ‘loner’ actually, which is different from ‘lonely’ in many ways. Happy you’re amused anyway, it’s a nice feeling, who cares how you got there.
"Either that or a lonely troll".
Is what you said. Just expand the post to see it there.
I mean to misquote other peoples' posts is all well and good. To misquote your own is a new take on it all.
Oh right. . I also said “borderline maniac loner’, so it wasn’t really a misquote
The bit I noted was when you called him lonely. Which you did. But I'm sure we can both move on from such pedantry.
“I’m getting sick and tired of hearing about morality, our moral obligation... There’s a point where you are incapable of meeting moral obligations that exist worldwide.”
He said that in 1975 about the US's obligations to South Vietnam. But he is essentially correct. It is not the duty of the US or the west to fix every wrong and impose our view of what is moral all over the world. The US does not have an obligation to act just because it can.
Great to see that we've reached the trawling the 70s to discredit X stage of the presidential electoral cycle.
Part of the price you pay for having a candidate who has been active on the national scene from more than 50 years. Personally. I would go for someone younger. Like Methuselah.
Trump's aperçus from the 1970s would be interesting, mostly comparing the relative merits of the next pussies he was going to grab I imagine.
Looking past the fact that 148grss seems to be the type of borderline maniac loner/future serial killer that makes this site an embarrassment to be on, is Prince William actually ill?
Me, a republican, who cares not for the life of the monarch: potential stochastic terrorist.
Posters here, calling immigration an invasion and often going off on wild right wing rants, including literally asking me to solve our disagreements with a fist fight: the reputable norms of PB.
You’re actively wishing for them to have a serious, painful illness that kills them, then saying you’ll laugh if it happens. You sound like a complete nutter who should be on meds/under some kind of surveillance; the next Scarlet Blake. Either that or a lonely troll
I didn't say painful - that's your interpretation. And I said it would be funny because of the outcome - Prince Regent Harry or Andrew - not because of their deaths (although I would not be sad at the prospect of their deaths).
But sure, the people here who want to build a wall at Calais and let children die in Gaza by their thousands or want to round up every Muslim and chuck them out of the country are the people who truly care about the sanctity of life and the impact that words have on another human who we briefly stand in brotherhood with during our short time on this small blue dot, not me, who hates one family of rich fucks who claim the right to rule me based on their bloodline. I am, indeed, the awful degenerate here.
Yes, you are.
The king has cancer, most people would agree that’s a painful illness, and you are hoping he dies from it, and say you’ll laugh when it happens. I’m not making this up, you’ve said it
It is perfectly legitimate, on a political betting site, to wish for the demise of a particular political system. As for the pain well you can't make an omelette without breaking eggs and in the broad sweep of history it doesn't really matter how someone actually died at the sharp end.
The potential demise of King Charles III and the monarchy as an institution really aren't the same.
Absolutely not. Le Roi est mort, etc. But if it turned out that for example (and I don't think it will, just as it didn't when QEII died) that the demise of KCIII provokes a debate about the future of the monarchy then that will have moved the "cause" on somewhat.
I don't wish ill on the royals, and feel sympathy for Chaz and his family in any illness or personal trauma they suffer, as I would for any fellow human (any creature, for that matter) I also don't care if they live or die, as I don't care if any celebrity, A or Z list, dies. Wishing them dead is a bit much to be honest but it has no effect, so I'm not going to police how people think and PB shouldn't either.
I am intrigued, however, by what "for personal reasons" could mean for the heir to the throne.
Needs to pick up the kids/walk the dog/wait in for the plumber/take the ebay package to the post office.
These don't quite ring true.
Something to do with Kate, is my guess, and not in a good way
I hope I am wrong, obvs
I actually LIKE some of the royals (inasmuch as you can like public figures you have met only once or never), and that definitely includes Kate. She is impeccable in the role, despite much sneering and snobbery. She seems to have happy healthy kids, which suggests a good mother
The royals are lucky to have her
bytyh Individually all the royals are extremely nice has been my experience.
As an institution, while I would not change it because we are where we are, I think it does repay some analysis as to relevance and viability in the present day.
Personally, I have always made the analogy that the British royal family is like having a great Gothic cathedral in your back garden, for some long lost dynastic reason
If you were building the house now, you certainly woudn't built it with a bloody cathedral by the garden shed. It is ridiculous, per se
And yet the cathedral is of great antiquity, and is in places very beautiful, and the music at evensong is lovely, and all the family members have been buried in it since 1083, so it kind of embodies you
What you don't do is casually knock it down, and expect to get somethibg better in its stead. A small garden pond with a toad. A couple of gnomes?
I very much doubt I will see the rebuild and quaff a pint of Holdens in the Crooked House. Stick it on the Black Country Museum or Avoncroft site, that way it might get built.
Looking past the fact that 148grss seems to be the type of borderline maniac loner/future serial killer that makes this site an embarrassment to be on, is Prince William actually ill?
Me, a republican, who cares not for the life of the monarch: potential stochastic terrorist.
Posters here, calling immigration an invasion and often going off on wild right wing rants, including literally asking me to solve our disagreements with a fist fight: the reputable norms of PB.
You’re actively wishing for them to have a serious, painful illness that kills them, then saying you’ll laugh if it happens. You sound like a complete nutter who should be on meds/under some kind of surveillance; the next Scarlet Blake. Either that or a lonely troll
He's expressing a political wish. The extinction of the monarchy. How they go is immaterial. I missed the bit about the painful exit.
And I am always amused at any PB poster using the term "lonely", which is similar to saying that they are so sad that they are posting on PB when they could be doing something far more exciting. What's your excuse.
Dying of cancer involves some kind of pain I think. Saying you hope it happens to someone, and you will laugh if it does, sounds absolutely deranged
I used the term ‘loner’ actually, which is different from ‘lonely’ in many ways. Happy you’re amused anyway, it’s a nice feeling, who cares how you got there.
Dying of cancer usually involves pain. I don't think it necessarily has to, however. One could think up ways cancer could kill you really suddenly and painlessly. I acknowledge this was not a helpful addition to the discussion.
The Prince of Wales has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter, Kensington Palace has said.
William had been due to attend a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece at Windsor Castle.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continues to be doing well.
The Prince of Wales called the Greek royal family who are attending the service to let them know he was unable to attend.
The late King Constantine of Greece, who died in January last year, was William's godfather.
I'm not convinced that the King's cancer is trivial - I think it might be rather serious. No evidence, just a gut feel.
No idea of what was wrong with Catherine (hysterectomy would be likely?) but its concerning that her recovery seems a bit slow.
I fear you could be right
The fact he was reported as weeping at the "get well" letters is concerning. We can't afford to lose more royals. Eeek
I've never liked the chap. He's always struck me as profoundly thick, and I've had a story related from a colleague who knew one of his tutors who said the same. But he had to wait an age for his 'turn', and only got it with loss of his mother, and may well be about to go too, so he has my sympathies.
But you know, there are plenty more Royals. Wills and Kat knocked out an heir and two spares, and there is always Andrew...
Well, there are a few people I don't particularly like, but I wouldn't shrug off the news that they had a horrible form of terminal cancer. It's a terrible fate for them and devastating for their families.
No-one deserves that. Not your worst enemy.
I wish him a full recovery.
Same, he’s a husband, father, grandfather, brother, uncle etc.
Whose had enormous wealth and privilege his whole life - I don't know him neither do I particularly need to care what kind of bum cancer he does or doesn't have that will shuffle him off this mortal coil like everyone else.
I find it funny that the whole "well you have to remember they're a human being" argument gets trotted out when people with immense wealth or power are dying and some people aren't arse licking on their way out, but when people are homeless or are fleeing a country and just trying to survive or are being bombed to death that is met by a mere shrug. People crossing the channel are husbands, fathers, mothers, daughters etc. but on any day here you can probably find someone who would cheer their boat sinking and demand them to be flogged if they did make it to our soil.
Here's hoping something is seriously wrong with Chaz and Wills, so we enter the funniest timeline of King George and Prince Regent Harry or Prince Regent Andrew.
I have a heart, so my hope is that William baulks at the prospect of becoming Monarch, and does a runner to join his brother. He clearly doesn't like being in the public eye.
If the two brothers both removed themselves, and their children, from the succession, then the Commons would have to act to avoid a King Andrew, and once you make it clear to people that we've been choosing the Monarch for centuries, they might decide they want to play some part in the process directly.
I think I can agree with that in general - although I would personally argue we should demand democracy for our head of state rather than hope it turns up. But it is clear to me that Wills is not going to abdicate, otherwise he would have made it very clear already.
I'm down with demanding a Republic, but I wish my fellow Republicans would not be so stupid to disgust the people they'd need to convince by wishing death upon the line of succession.
How to win friends and influence people it is not.
But the idea of monarchy is so grotesque - why should I have to pamper the idea that these people are somehow genetically superior, either because of god or breeding, to lead us? People wish death, in a 12 Angry Men way, on people all the time. Claims of deity backed state leadership is some Kim Jong Un shit that we should have left behind the first time we chopped off a kind's head (not that Cromwell was a good person, before people start claiming I'd defend his positions on anything).
The monarch is a well paid mascot. I don’t think most people have an issue with that
And also far preferable to the inevitable President Johnson or President Blair alternative
why - at least they won some form of popularity contest rather than being anointed at birth
And a popularity contest for President resulting in a 52%-48% vote would be unifying?
For all our sakes it would be great if the tory party of @TSE were, indeed, the tory party.
Alas, it’s not the case. There are plenty on the vocal right for whom Lager Lee is totemic:
'Grassroots Conservative supporters have called Rishi Sunak a “snake” over Lee Anderson’s suspension as MPs on the Tory right said he should be given a route back in.
In leaked WhatsApp messages obtained by the Guardian, members of the Conservative Democratic Organisation (CDO), which was founded by disgruntled Tories after Boris Johnson and then Liz Truss were ousted, attacked the prime minister for kicking Anderson out of the parliamentary party.
Several of the activists endorsed Anderson’s comments and some went further in decrying “the threat of Islam”.’
I was chatting with a tory friend yesterday about all of this. She thinks the whole lot of them (Badenoch, Braverman, Anderson etc. etc.) should be booted out of the party so they can join Reform. But we then got talking about when it all started and who is responsible.
A lot of this goes back to Boris who deliberately stoked the right wing rabble with its ‘anti-woke’ hatred, but I suggested that Boris is too dilettantish to devise such a thing.
At which point we both settled on Dominic Cummings.
What you're arguing for is a Conservative Party that more liberals and centre-left can feel comfortable with.
There's certainly a small (and very voluble) audience for that but it's not one that would come close to winning an election: non-Tories might be slightly more comfortable with the Tories being in office but it would win over very few of their votes.
Two points. It is still very unclear what a right wing Tory government would do different, WRT migration, employment, borrowing, spending, pensions, taxing, benefits, debt and deficit.
Secondly, at the moment polling shows under 40% support for the right+centre right, and 60+% support for the centre and centre left and left. This suggests that the next election, like most, will be won from the centre, which is where the next Tory GE win will come from in a few years' time.
The Conservatives biggest problem is they haven't delivered.
In fact, in one area where I think they largely have - checking identity politics - they get reams of criticism, much of which we've seen on this board this morning.
Have they checked it - or have they just weaponised their own form of it ?
What you appear to mean is that they've checked the form of it you don't like.
No, there was a lot of heat in the aftermath of BLM about pulling down statues, renaming buildings, infrastructure and institutions - left, right and centre - calls for reparations, a pretty much compulsory identity politics reading list, and formal programmes of unconscious bias and white privilege throughout the professions and public services. A big jump in EDI employment and deployment. All, essentially, imported from America.
Whilst we got a little bit of that in the first few months Oliver Dowden successfully checked it, including with legislation, and organisations like Stonewall have since been challenged on their agenda. Whilst it's still around in the background it's definitely gone off the boil a bit over the last 18-24 months. We haven't quite yet, in my view, calmed down entirely on British history and identity but it's better than it was.
We don't have anything like the divisions in the USA over it - except that the word "Woke" can trigger people into apoplexy on both sides - and far too many Liberals (not all) deny there was ever an issue, despite opposing each and every single one of the challenges all the way down the line.
Do you think that there is a reasonable argument to be made that people who live in this country may not want statues or plaques, for example, to people who made their money off of the slave trade hailing them as good men and such? Or, in your view, is there absolutely no argument to be made for that kind of thing?
I think I can guess your position, as someone who wishes to defend Chazza with his fists, but still - trying to figure out what is so egregious here.
It happened hundreds of years ago , sad tossers need to get over it and get on with their lives now. No place for any of that pathetic crap of going back centuries and rewriting history, it is for sad losers on the make.
Why is removing a statue "rewriting history"? And why is "rewriting history" wrong if the original written history was massively biased in favour of things that we now know more about and can see are wrong? You could remove a statue of a slaver, for example, and put a statue about slavery, and even mention the same slaver, just not valorise him. And I use the word valorise quite purposefully because, when it comes to statues, form is feeling - the entire point of larger than life statues literally put on pedestals is to make the figures they depict grandiose.
Also - history moves. If your position is "who cares, it happened a hundred years ago" is that not an argument in favour of taking down these statues? Should we expect to never get rid of any of these statues, never update the people who adorn these plinths? Should we always be stuck memorialising a specific point in the past - never be given a chance to move forward?
There is a reason that no one in Germany argues that tearing down statues of Hitler would have erased the history of the Nazis, and why people were happy when they saw statues of Saddam Hussein torn down during the Iraq war - because you know that a statue isn't some neutral form of giving a history lesson - it is a proclamation of importance. If people no longer like the statues in their city, or social norms have changed so a man who was once considered a hero is now considered a villain - that's how history works. It's all the people who want to keep the clock stopped at a time when the British Empire was lauded, where no one questioned if it was good or not, who want to force their idea of what was good on the rest of us who are the people who need to move on and are trying to keep history static, frozen in ice.
The issue is that it selects one aspect of a person’s life and condemns them entirely on that basis. Clearly slavery was a black mark on their character (😛) but it is not the only thing that should be considered.
Let’s use Jefferson as an example. There was lots about him that wasn’t great and he was an enthusiastic slave owner.
But on balance he made a positive contribution to the world and should be celebrated for it
It won't be the same, according to the Continued Identity Theory:
"This solution (proposed by Kate, Ernest et al.) sees an object as staying the same as long as it continuously exists under the same identity, and it is never fully transformed at the same time. For instance, a house, whose front wall is destroyed and replaced at year 1, the ceiling replaced at year 2, et cætera until every part of the house has been replaced. The house will still be designated as being the same. However, if every wall, the floor and the ceiling are destroyed and replaced at the same time, it will be known as a new house."
Is this just a more sophisticated version of "Trigger's broom"?
I have this with one of my NMR instruments. Consists of 3 main parts (magnet, console and autosampler) each has been replaced, some multiple times. Is it still the same instrument?
Do Labour deny the policy changes they plan? After we finally limit the flow of immigration with Sunak's new limits, is Starmer going to open the flood gates again?
We've not seen the flow of immigration limited yet. The Tories frequently promise things on immigration that don't happen. The flood gates are at a record level of openness under the Tories.
I will be surprised if immigration in 2025 under a new Labour government isn't lower than 2023's figure.
Yes, because 2023 was a spike because of Hong Kongers and Ukrainians. The new income thresholds aren't a promise, they have been enacted into policy and will come live in April. Labour will open the floodgates again and it will be worse every year. And it won't be skilled, educated Hong Kongers. It will be arranged brides from the Indian subcontinent.
Yes, 2022-3 are probably going to turn out to be a spike, for those reasons and more.
The new income thresholds are real. It's a promise that the policy will achieve its aims.
I see nothing (credible) to suggest that "Labour will open the floodgates". Immigration from India has increased hugely over the course of the last 14 years of Conservative governance, so if that concerns you, don't vote Conservative.
Labour have said they will take asylum seekers from France. They will eliminate the Rwanda policy, removing a disincentive for economic migration through the asylum process. They are going to allow foreign care workers to bring all their dependents from them.
And that is the stuff we know about so far. Starmer is noticeably vague when asked about reintroducing open immigration from the EU. The floodgates will open again, just when Sunak has brought in policies to finally close them.
The idea of taking asylum seekers from France is within an agreement around people coming over on boats. The most successful thing Sunak did to reduce small boat numbers was the bilateral agreement with Albania. Labour want to do more bilateral agreements.
The Rwanda policy isn't disincentivising anyone -- don't make me laugh!
Can't those working in care already bring dependents with them?
We had open immigration from the EU for many years, and the total immigration was below what we've had since Brexit. If you want lower immigration, going back to Brexit arrangements is a step in the right direction.
I am intrigued, however, by what "for personal reasons" could mean for the heir to the throne.
Needs to pick up the kids/walk the dog/wait in for the plumber/take the ebay package to the post office.
These don't quite ring true.
Something to do with Kate, is my guess, and not in a good way
I hope I am wrong, obvs
I actually LIKE some of the royals (inasmuch as you can like public figures you have met only once or never), and that definitely includes Kate. She is impeccable in the role, despite much sneering and snobbery. She seems to have happy healthy kids, which suggests a good mother
The Prince of Wales has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter, Kensington Palace has said.
William had been due to attend a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece at Windsor Castle.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continues to be doing well.
The Prince of Wales called the Greek royal family who are attending the service to let them know he was unable to attend.
The late King Constantine of Greece, who died in January last year, was William's godfather.
I'm not convinced that the King's cancer is trivial - I think it might be rather serious. No evidence, just a gut feel.
No idea of what was wrong with Catherine (hysterectomy would be likely?) but its concerning that her recovery seems a bit slow.
I fear you could be right
The fact he was reported as weeping at the "get well" letters is concerning. We can't afford to lose more royals. Eeek
I've never liked the chap. He's always struck me as profoundly thick, and I've had a story related from a colleague who knew one of his tutors who said the same. But he had to wait an age for his 'turn', and only got it with loss of his mother, and may well be about to go too, so he has my sympathies.
But you know, there are plenty more Royals. Wills and Kat knocked out an heir and two spares, and there is always Andrew...
Well, there are a few people I don't particularly like, but I wouldn't shrug off the news that they had a horrible form of terminal cancer. It's a terrible fate for them and devastating for their families.
No-one deserves that. Not your worst enemy.
I wish him a full recovery.
Same, he’s a husband, father, grandfather, brother, uncle etc.
Whose had enormous wealth and privilege his whole life - I don't know him neither do I particularly need to care what kind of bum cancer he does or doesn't have that will shuffle him off this mortal coil like everyone else.
I find it funny that the whole "well you have to remember they're a human being" argument gets trotted out when people with immense wealth or power are dying and some people aren't arse licking on their way out, but when people are homeless or are fleeing a country and just trying to survive or are being bombed to death that is met by a mere shrug. People crossing the channel are husbands, fathers, mothers, daughters etc. but on any day here you can probably find someone who would cheer their boat sinking and demand them to be flogged if they did make it to our soil.
Here's hoping something is seriously wrong with Chaz and Wills, so we enter the funniest timeline of King George and Prince Regent Harry or Prince Regent Andrew.
You are wishing serious ill-health and death on fairly blameless human beings. Chas and Wills are not Vlad Putin
That crosses a line and you should apologise and withdraw, before you get moderated
Lol, no. I don't care if monarchs croak, why should I?
Because you make yourself look like a jerk?
Right - because my self worth comes from the opinions of PBers. I find some of the conversation here interesting, although I find much more of it hugely confusing if somewhat enlightening on what and how right wingers think, but I don't really care if people here think I am a bad person for not caring if the king or the prince of wales die.
Nonetheless, you now look like a total jerk. So well done you
I would say he's a deeply unpleasant individual, but I think that'd be unfair: he hasn't grown up yet.
He gives every impression of being a precocious teenager who read some Marx at the age of fifteen, topped up by a sprinkling of Chomsky in Sixth Form, and has since set his philosophy by it to the point it's defined his identity.
He been able to indulge in this ever since because he lives the life of a fairly typical privileged bien pensant left-winger - living in a house provided gratis by his Dad, and working in a cosseted academic bubble - so he's never had to revisit his assumptions, and simply proclaims them ever more loudly and angrily when they are challenged, usually with a lot of turgid verbiage.
One sort of feels sorry for him, really.
Apparently the guy who treatened me to a fist fight in the honour of his maj wants to talk about my loud and angry words. Is this how your therapist suggested you deal with the urge to "take this outside" - create a fantasy that means you can contain the anger rather than act on it? I personally prefer therapies that take aim at the causes of things, but sometimes what Pratchett calls "headology" works.
I love how the whole "I live in a house my Dad owns" thing has become a tale of the inherent wealth and privilege I have an not an outcome of my mother's death and years of me fighting with my dad about not treating it like a tomb to her memory - which included the best part of a year of my life when I was literally homeless and sofa surfing because I refused to move back in with him and couldn't go elsewhere - but hey ho, here's what comes of brevity.
Again, no one is challenging any of this. We are merely pointing out that it is not Site Etiquette to wish ill health and death on other pb-ers and public figures (with the possible exception of execrable tyrants like Putin). Chas and Wills might be odious symbols of privilege, and represent an institution you detest, nonetheless they are human beings and your words were cruel and unpleasant
And consider this, you've got me, not exactly know for mincing words, and Nick Palmer (your only other fellow communist on the site, albeit ex in his case) both advising you to reword and say sorry
Just say sorry! Withdraw. It's not hard, and it's good for the soul, and then you can go back to giving us your often quite interesting and decisive opinions, even if I generally disagree
But I'm not sorry for what I said.
Also, again, I prefer it when you call me an idiot or something (which you typically do when you've decided that the woke mind virus is going to be the end of civilisation or such and I say how ridiculous that is) rather than calling me interesting.
I think your comments were unkind and fell short of the standards of civilised debate that we should aim for on here. My personal view is that hoping for the death of public figures coarsens the debate. It especially behoves those on the left to maintain the standards of decent political discourse because the alternative is an arena where the rich and powerful will always dominate, having more resources to devote to violence. The left can only win through the power of rational argument.
It won't be the same, according to the Continued Identity Theory:
"This solution (proposed by Kate, Ernest et al.) sees an object as staying the same as long as it continuously exists under the same identity, and it is never fully transformed at the same time. For instance, a house, whose front wall is destroyed and replaced at year 1, the ceiling replaced at year 2, et cætera until every part of the house has been replaced. The house will still be designated as being the same. However, if every wall, the floor and the ceiling are destroyed and replaced at the same time, it will be known as a new house."
Is this just a more sophisticated version of "Trigger's broom"?
I have this with one of my NMR instruments. Consists of 3 main parts (magnet, console and autosampler) each has been replaced, some multiple times. Is it still the same instrument?
(No)
Hmm. The Japanese tear down and rebuild certain temples exactly as before every now and then, I believe (because wooden). But still the same temple.
The Prince of Wales has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter, Kensington Palace has said.
William had been due to attend a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece at Windsor Castle.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continues to be doing well.
The Prince of Wales called the Greek royal family who are attending the service to let them know he was unable to attend.
The late King Constantine of Greece, who died in January last year, was William's godfather.
I'm not convinced that the King's cancer is trivial - I think it might be rather serious. No evidence, just a gut feel.
No idea of what was wrong with Catherine (hysterectomy would be likely?) but its concerning that her recovery seems a bit slow.
I fear you could be right
The fact he was reported as weeping at the "get well" letters is concerning. We can't afford to lose more royals. Eeek
I've never liked the chap. He's always struck me as profoundly thick, and I've had a story related from a colleague who knew one of his tutors who said the same. But he had to wait an age for his 'turn', and only got it with loss of his mother, and may well be about to go too, so he has my sympathies.
But you know, there are plenty more Royals. Wills and Kat knocked out an heir and two spares, and there is always Andrew...
Well, there are a few people I don't particularly like, but I wouldn't shrug off the news that they had a horrible form of terminal cancer. It's a terrible fate for them and devastating for their families.
No-one deserves that. Not your worst enemy.
I wish him a full recovery.
Same, he’s a husband, father, grandfather, brother, uncle etc.
Whose had enormous wealth and privilege his whole life - I don't know him neither do I particularly need to care what kind of bum cancer he does or doesn't have that will shuffle him off this mortal coil like everyone else.
I find it funny that the whole "well you have to remember they're a human being" argument gets trotted out when people with immense wealth or power are dying and some people aren't arse licking on their way out, but when people are homeless or are fleeing a country and just trying to survive or are being bombed to death that is met by a mere shrug. People crossing the channel are husbands, fathers, mothers, daughters etc. but on any day here you can probably find someone who would cheer their boat sinking and demand them to be flogged if they did make it to our soil.
Here's hoping something is seriously wrong with Chaz and Wills, so we enter the funniest timeline of King George and Prince Regent Harry or Prince Regent Andrew.
I have a heart, so my hope is that William baulks at the prospect of becoming Monarch, and does a runner to join his brother. He clearly doesn't like being in the public eye.
If the two brothers both removed themselves, and their children, from the succession, then the Commons would have to act to avoid a King Andrew, and once you make it clear to people that we've been choosing the Monarch for centuries, they might decide they want to play some part in the process directly.
I think I can agree with that in general - although I would personally argue we should demand democracy for our head of state rather than hope it turns up. But it is clear to me that Wills is not going to abdicate, otherwise he would have made it very clear already.
I'm down with demanding a Republic, but I wish my fellow Republicans would not be so stupid to disgust the people they'd need to convince by wishing death upon the line of succession.
How to win friends and influence people it is not.
But the idea of monarchy is so grotesque - why should I have to pamper the idea that these people are somehow genetically superior, either because of god or breeding, to lead us? People wish death, in a 12 Angry Men way, on people all the time. Claims of deity backed state leadership is some Kim Jong Un shit that we should have left behind the first time we chopped off a kind's head (not that Cromwell was a good person, before people start claiming I'd defend his positions on anything).
The monarch is a well paid mascot. I don’t think most people have an issue with that
And also far preferable to the inevitable President Johnson or President Blair alternative
why - at least they won some form of popularity contest rather than being anointed at birth
And a popularity contest for President resulting in a 52%-48% vote would be unifying?
Despite being a republican I think as long as the Union exists the monarchy will because it's the only way of having a symbolic figurehead that can at least claim (very vestigially) to represent the UK. Just imagine Johnson as President of Scots.
The Prince of Wales has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter, Kensington Palace has said.
William had been due to attend a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece at Windsor Castle.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continues to be doing well.
The Prince of Wales called the Greek royal family who are attending the service to let them know he was unable to attend.
The late King Constantine of Greece, who died in January last year, was William's godfather.
I'm not convinced that the King's cancer is trivial - I think it might be rather serious. No evidence, just a gut feel.
No idea of what was wrong with Catherine (hysterectomy would be likely?) but its concerning that her recovery seems a bit slow.
I fear you could be right
The fact he was reported as weeping at the "get well" letters is concerning. We can't afford to lose more royals. Eeek
I've never liked the chap. He's always struck me as profoundly thick, and I've had a story related from a colleague who knew one of his tutors who said the same. But he had to wait an age for his 'turn', and only got it with loss of his mother, and may well be about to go too, so he has my sympathies.
But you know, there are plenty more Royals. Wills and Kat knocked out an heir and two spares, and there is always Andrew...
Well, there are a few people I don't particularly like, but I wouldn't shrug off the news that they had a horrible form of terminal cancer. It's a terrible fate for them and devastating for their families.
No-one deserves that. Not your worst enemy.
I wish him a full recovery.
Same, he’s a husband, father, grandfather, brother, uncle etc.
Whose had enormous wealth and privilege his whole life - I don't know him neither do I particularly need to care what kind of bum cancer he does or doesn't have that will shuffle him off this mortal coil like everyone else.
I find it funny that the whole "well you have to remember they're a human being" argument gets trotted out when people with immense wealth or power are dying and some people aren't arse licking on their way out, but when people are homeless or are fleeing a country and just trying to survive or are being bombed to death that is met by a mere shrug. People crossing the channel are husbands, fathers, mothers, daughters etc. but on any day here you can probably find someone who would cheer their boat sinking and demand them to be flogged if they did make it to our soil.
Here's hoping something is seriously wrong with Chaz and Wills, so we enter the funniest timeline of King George and Prince Regent Harry or Prince Regent Andrew.
You are wishing serious ill-health and death on fairly blameless human beings. Chas and Wills are not Vlad Putin
That crosses a line and you should apologise and withdraw, before you get moderated
Lol, no. I don't care if monarchs croak, why should I?
Because you make yourself look like a jerk?
Right - because my self worth comes from the opinions of PBers. I find some of the conversation here interesting, although I find much more of it hugely confusing if somewhat enlightening on what and how right wingers think, but I don't really care if people here think I am a bad person for not caring if the king or the prince of wales die.
Nonetheless, you now look like a total jerk. So well done you
I would say he's a deeply unpleasant individual, but I think that'd be unfair: he hasn't grown up yet.
He gives every impression of being a precocious teenager who read some Marx at the age of fifteen, topped up by a sprinkling of Chomsky in Sixth Form, and has since set his philosophy by it to the point it's defined his identity.
He been able to indulge in this ever since because he lives the life of a fairly typical privileged bien pensant left-winger - living in a house provided gratis by his Dad, and working in a cosseted academic bubble - so he's never had to revisit his assumptions, and simply proclaims them ever more loudly and angrily when they are challenged, usually with a lot of turgid verbiage.
One sort of feels sorry for him, really.
Apparently the guy who treatened me to a fist fight in the honour of his maj wants to talk about my loud and angry words. Is this how your therapist suggested you deal with the urge to "take this outside" - create a fantasy that means you can contain the anger rather than act on it? I personally prefer therapies that take aim at the causes of things, but sometimes what Pratchett calls "headology" works.
I love how the whole "I live in a house my Dad owns" thing has become a tale of the inherent wealth and privilege I have an not an outcome of my mother's death and years of me fighting with my dad about not treating it like a tomb to her memory - which included the best part of a year of my life when I was literally homeless and sofa surfing because I refused to move back in with him and couldn't go elsewhere - but hey ho, here's what comes of brevity.
Again, no one is challenging any of this. We are merely pointing out that it is not Site Etiquette to wish ill health and death on other pb-ers and public figures (with the possible exception of execrable tyrants like Putin). Chas and Wills might be odious symbols of privilege, and represent an institution you detest, nonetheless they are human beings and your words were cruel and unpleasant
And consider this, you've got me, not exactly know for mincing words, and Nick Palmer (your only other fellow communist on the site, albeit ex in his case) both advising you to reword and say sorry
Just say sorry! Withdraw. It's not hard, and it's good for the soul, and then you can go back to giving us your often quite interesting and decisive opinions, even if I generally disagree
But I'm not sorry for what I said.
Also, again, I prefer it when you call me an idiot or something (which you typically do when you've decided that the woke mind virus is going to be the end of civilisation or such and I say how ridiculous that is) rather than calling me interesting.
I think your comments were unkind and fell short of the standards of civilised debate that we should aim for on here. My personal view is that hoping for the death of public figures coarsens the debate. It especially behoves those on the left to maintain the standards of decent political discourse because the alternative is an arena where the rich and powerful will always dominate, having more resources to devote to violence. The left can only win through the power of rational argument.
"standards of civilised debate that we should aim for on here"? How about bollocks.
The death of a monarch if you are an anti-monarchist is presumably critical to your political philosophy.
Chaz has six months according to rumours on the unimpeachable source of TikTok.
If he times it right we could get the US election/civil war, a general election, the Strictly final and another Statty Fyoonz all within a few weeks next winter. We've got the Olympics and another counter-offensive to keep us busy until that Gotterdammerung.
The Prince of Wales has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter, Kensington Palace has said.
William had been due to attend a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece at Windsor Castle.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continues to be doing well.
The Prince of Wales called the Greek royal family who are attending the service to let them know he was unable to attend.
The late King Constantine of Greece, who died in January last year, was William's godfather.
I'm not convinced that the King's cancer is trivial - I think it might be rather serious. No evidence, just a gut feel.
No idea of what was wrong with Catherine (hysterectomy would be likely?) but its concerning that her recovery seems a bit slow.
I fear you could be right
The fact he was reported as weeping at the "get well" letters is concerning. We can't afford to lose more royals. Eeek
I've never liked the chap. He's always struck me as profoundly thick, and I've had a story related from a colleague who knew one of his tutors who said the same. But he had to wait an age for his 'turn', and only got it with loss of his mother, and may well be about to go too, so he has my sympathies.
But you know, there are plenty more Royals. Wills and Kat knocked out an heir and two spares, and there is always Andrew...
Well, there are a few people I don't particularly like, but I wouldn't shrug off the news that they had a horrible form of terminal cancer. It's a terrible fate for them and devastating for their families.
No-one deserves that. Not your worst enemy.
I wish him a full recovery.
Same, he’s a husband, father, grandfather, brother, uncle etc.
Whose had enormous wealth and privilege his whole life - I don't know him neither do I particularly need to care what kind of bum cancer he does or doesn't have that will shuffle him off this mortal coil like everyone else.
I find it funny that the whole "well you have to remember they're a human being" argument gets trotted out when people with immense wealth or power are dying and some people aren't arse licking on their way out, but when people are homeless or are fleeing a country and just trying to survive or are being bombed to death that is met by a mere shrug. People crossing the channel are husbands, fathers, mothers, daughters etc. but on any day here you can probably find someone who would cheer their boat sinking and demand them to be flogged if they did make it to our soil.
Here's hoping something is seriously wrong with Chaz and Wills, so we enter the funniest timeline of King George and Prince Regent Harry or Prince Regent Andrew.
I have a heart, so my hope is that William baulks at the prospect of becoming Monarch, and does a runner to join his brother. He clearly doesn't like being in the public eye.
If the two brothers both removed themselves, and their children, from the succession, then the Commons would have to act to avoid a King Andrew, and once you make it clear to people that we've been choosing the Monarch for centuries, they might decide they want to play some part in the process directly.
I think I can agree with that in general - although I would personally argue we should demand democracy for our head of state rather than hope it turns up. But it is clear to me that Wills is not going to abdicate, otherwise he would have made it very clear already.
I'm down with demanding a Republic, but I wish my fellow Republicans would not be so stupid to disgust the people they'd need to convince by wishing death upon the line of succession.
How to win friends and influence people it is not.
But the idea of monarchy is so grotesque - why should I have to pamper the idea that these people are somehow genetically superior, either because of god or breeding, to lead us? People wish death, in a 12 Angry Men way, on people all the time. Claims of deity backed state leadership is some Kim Jong Un shit that we should have left behind the first time we chopped off a kind's head (not that Cromwell was a good person, before people start claiming I'd defend his positions on anything).
The monarch is a well paid mascot. I don’t think most people have an issue with that
And also far preferable to the inevitable President Johnson or President Blair alternative
why - at least they won some form of popularity contest rather than being anointed at birth
And a popularity contest for President resulting in a 52%-48% vote would be unifying?
why must unity be a necessary outcome? No country lasts forever.
I see Lee Anderson is trotting out a free speech defence. He said on GBNews that we have free speech and he should be free to say what he thinks. Of course, he is free to say what he thinks. It’s just that what he said was (a) wrong, and (b) racist. Other people used their free speech to point this out.
When will the right stop bleating about free speech, when what they want is consequence-free speech?
I think Lee Anderson thought he was "licenced" to speak freely as a Tory to the Red Wall base in language they'd understand, and to some extent he was.
The trouble was that what he said about Khan was slanderous: if he'd just said he thought Khan was far too tolerant of the Gaza protests and not doing enough, because he had some sympathy with them, then there'd have still been some howls of outrage but he wouldn't have been suspended.
Both parts are true. They sent him off as the thickie to talk to the northern thickies. The ones with cloth caps and ferrets in their trousers. And when you live up north you think London is another country. There are plenty of northern towns that the WWC still think have been "taken over" by muslims and "Londonistan" is worse.
Of course what 25p said was defamatory. So they had to suspend him. But the reported avalanche of "15p is right" messages received by doomed MPs shows that an awful lot of WWC voters think it wasn't defamatory and "someone had to say it".
Free speech? Too many parochial bigots think they should be allowed to openly say the racist stupid defamatory stuff because its true innit? Its the loony left and woke remoaners who should be forced to shut up, not them.
That’s powerfully put
So powerful someone has ALREADY set it to the tune of an epic rock ballad. That’s incredible
I've only just listened to this and had to stop after about 20 seconds due to spitting out tea and struggling to control myself in the office.
Absolutely brilliant.
Thanks. I am quite proud, even if the software made the music
I did take time choosing the most ridiculous comment that would be the funniest, and which - in length - would fit the format of Suno AI
There's quite a choice. @Dura_Ace posts might make a half-interesting sonnet, if you pieced them together sensibly and removed all the get-my-glossary jargon.
Client asked for some ideas about editing down a block of product descriptions for back of pack on a new brand. I looked at the text, thought "too long and repetitive" and fed it into ChatGPT. The AI edit is now the working version of the text...
Every time you list something on ebay it asks if you want the AI description. Now they are not as I might write them, plus they are on average longer than a @148grss post ( ) but they certainly do the job.
Amazon have started doing AI summaries of product reviews. All well and good - in fact, genuinely useful.
...except, er, the AI appears to have singled out "noise" as being one of the most important qualities of wine:
Probably came across 'noisesome' in its training and got confused.
The Prince of Wales has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter, Kensington Palace has said.
William had been due to attend a memorial service for the late King Constantine of Greece at Windsor Castle.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continues to be doing well.
The Prince of Wales called the Greek royal family who are attending the service to let them know he was unable to attend.
The late King Constantine of Greece, who died in January last year, was William's godfather.
I'm not convinced that the King's cancer is trivial - I think it might be rather serious. No evidence, just a gut feel.
No idea of what was wrong with Catherine (hysterectomy would be likely?) but its concerning that her recovery seems a bit slow.
I fear you could be right
The fact he was reported as weeping at the "get well" letters is concerning. We can't afford to lose more royals. Eeek
I've never liked the chap. He's always struck me as profoundly thick, and I've had a story related from a colleague who knew one of his tutors who said the same. But he had to wait an age for his 'turn', and only got it with loss of his mother, and may well be about to go too, so he has my sympathies.
But you know, there are plenty more Royals. Wills and Kat knocked out an heir and two spares, and there is always Andrew...
Well, there are a few people I don't particularly like, but I wouldn't shrug off the news that they had a horrible form of terminal cancer. It's a terrible fate for them and devastating for their families.
No-one deserves that. Not your worst enemy.
I wish him a full recovery.
Same, he’s a husband, father, grandfather, brother, uncle etc.
Whose had enormous wealth and privilege his whole life - I don't know him neither do I particularly need to care what kind of bum cancer he does or doesn't have that will shuffle him off this mortal coil like everyone else.
I find it funny that the whole "well you have to remember they're a human being" argument gets trotted out when people with immense wealth or power are dying and some people aren't arse licking on their way out, but when people are homeless or are fleeing a country and just trying to survive or are being bombed to death that is met by a mere shrug. People crossing the channel are husbands, fathers, mothers, daughters etc. but on any day here you can probably find someone who would cheer their boat sinking and demand them to be flogged if they did make it to our soil.
Here's hoping something is seriously wrong with Chaz and Wills, so we enter the funniest timeline of King George and Prince Regent Harry or Prince Regent Andrew.
What a horrible attitude - I have no great love for the royal family but I do not wish them harm
I wish they didn't exist - I don't know if that's the same as harm, but I do not care if they live or die and if they all died that would be a sure fire way of us not having a royal family any more.
But that isn't what you said. Wishing they didn't exist as an institution, and therefore as "the monarch" and the "prince of Wales" is entirely fair.
But you did not say that. You said "Here's hoping something is seriously wrong with Chaz and Wills"
Which absolutely crosses the PB line, to my mind
Where exactly is this line. Could you sketch it out for us so we can be aware of it in future posts.
TIA.
Don't be disingenuous
This site quite successfully polices itself, and one of the unwritten rules is that you do not wish death or serious harm to other PB-ers or significant public figures/politicians
Otherwise the place would soon turn into a sewer where we are all hoping that Keir Starmer gets REDACTED REDACTED
I know this coz I've been moderated for it, after some drunken rant where I went over the top. The moderation was justified, and I apologised to the forum, and you all gracioiusly accepted it
I got 2 likes and zero moderation when I expressed a sincerely held desire for Johnson to die of Covid. You just have to do it with panache.
Do Labour deny the policy changes they plan? After we finally limit the flow of immigration with Sunak's new limits, is Starmer going to open the flood gates again?
We've not seen the flow of immigration limited yet. The Tories frequently promise things on immigration that don't happen. The flood gates are at a record level of openness under the Tories.
I will be surprised if immigration in 2025 under a new Labour government isn't lower than 2023's figure.
Yes, because 2023 was a spike because of Hong Kongers and Ukrainians. The new income thresholds aren't a promise, they have been enacted into policy and will come live in April. Labour will open the floodgates again and it will be worse every year. And it won't be skilled, educated Hong Kongers. It will be arranged brides from the Indian subcontinent.
Yes, 2022-3 are probably going to turn out to be a spike, for those reasons and more.
The new income thresholds are real. It's a promise that the policy will achieve its aims.
I see nothing (credible) to suggest that "Labour will open the floodgates". Immigration from India has increased hugely over the course of the last 14 years of Conservative governance, so if that concerns you, don't vote Conservative.
Labour have said they will take asylum seekers from France. They will eliminate the Rwanda policy, removing a disincentive for economic migration through the asylum process. They are going to allow foreign care workers to bring all their dependents from them.
And that is the stuff we know about so far. Starmer is noticeably vague when asked about reintroducing open immigration from the EU. The floodgates will open again, just when Sunak has brought in policies to finally close them.
You are rather mischaracterising Starmer's proposed EU Migrant Returns Agreement here!
What's your opinion of the current government's migrant returns agreement with Albania?
Chaz has six months according to rumours on the unimpeachable source of TikTok.
If he times it right we could get the US election/civil war, a general election, the Strictly final and another Statty Fyoonz all within a few weeks next winter. We've got the Olympics and another counter-offensive to keep us busy until that Gotterdammerung.
It won't be the same, according to the Continued Identity Theory:
"This solution (proposed by Kate, Ernest et al.) sees an object as staying the same as long as it continuously exists under the same identity, and it is never fully transformed at the same time. For instance, a house, whose front wall is destroyed and replaced at year 1, the ceiling replaced at year 2, et cætera until every part of the house has been replaced. The house will still be designated as being the same. However, if every wall, the floor and the ceiling are destroyed and replaced at the same time, it will be known as a new house."
Is this just a more sophisticated version of "Trigger's broom"?
I have this with one of my NMR instruments. Consists of 3 main parts (magnet, console and autosampler) each has been replaced, some multiple times. Is it still the same instrument?
(No)
Hmm. The Japanese tear down and rebuild certain temples exactly as before every now and then, I believe (because wooden). But still the same temple.
I think you need to keep the core parts. If I strip my mountain bike, keep the frame and put all new components on it, I'd say it's my old bike but improved. If I strip the components off it and put them on a new frame, it's a different bike. I'd say the Japanese temple's core part is its spiritual aspect, the wood is just a component.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus
It won't be the same, according to the Continued Identity Theory:
"This solution (proposed by Kate, Ernest et al.) sees an object as staying the same as long as it continuously exists under the same identity, and it is never fully transformed at the same time. For instance, a house, whose front wall is destroyed and replaced at year 1, the ceiling replaced at year 2, et cætera until every part of the house has been replaced. The house will still be designated as being the same. However, if every wall, the floor and the ceiling are destroyed and replaced at the same time, it will be known as a new house."
The new income thresholds are real. It's a promise that the policy will achieve its aims.
I see nothing (credible) to suggest that "Labour will open the floodgates". Immigration from India has increased hugely over the course of the last 14 years of Conservative governance, so if that concerns you, don't vote Conservative.
“I’m getting sick and tired of hearing about morality, our moral obligation... There’s a point where you are incapable of meeting moral obligations that exist worldwide.”
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/02/27/biden-human-rights-00143379
I love how the whole "I live in a house my Dad owns" thing has become a tale of the inherent wealth and privilege I have an not an outcome of my mother's death and years of me fighting with my dad about not treating it like a tomb to her memory - which included the best part of a year of my life when I was literally homeless and sofa surfing because I refused to move back in with him and couldn't go elsewhere - but hey ho, here's what comes of brevity.
Any hysterectomy is major surgery and needs a long recovery period even without the menopause
...except, er, the AI appears to have singled out "noise" as being one of the most important qualities of wine:
And consider this, you've got me, not exactly know for mincing words, and Nick Palmer (your only other fellow communist on the site, albeit ex in his case) both advising you to reword and say sorry
Just say sorry! Withdraw. It's not hard, and it's good for the soul, and then you can go back to giving us your often quite interesting and decisive opinions, even if I generally disagree
Up there with using special orange marker pens to make your CDs sound better.
148 & CR
Leon & Ian
Topping & Kinabalu (not sure that one's requited
But sure, the people here who want to build a wall at Calais and let children die in Gaza by their thousands or want to round up every Muslim and chuck them out of the country are the people who truly care about the sanctity of life and the impact that words have on another human who we briefly stand in brotherhood with during our short time on this small blue dot, not me, who hates one family of rich fucks who claim the right to rule me based on their bloodline. I am, indeed, the awful degenerate here.
And I am always amused at any PB poster using the term "lonely", which is similar to saying that they are so sad that they are posting on PB when they could be doing something far more exciting. What's your excuse.
This memorial service is for a former Greek monarch of a monarchy which no longer rules, it is really therefore a private engagement which the Queen can attend in his place. No suggestion he is ill and the Princess of Wales according to a statement from Kensington Palace this morning is also recovering well
Life's tough. We all have sob stories. However you are more privileged than most and ripping on Casino without recognising the cause of his reaction is a little pissy. He made the point people would not speak like that in person and he is right. Also he gracefully apologised when he came back and explained why.
Also, again, I prefer it when you call me an idiot or something (which you typically do when you've decided that the woke mind virus is going to be the end of civilisation or such and I say how ridiculous that is) rather than calling me interesting.
Needs to pick up the kids/walk the dog/wait in for the plumber/take the ebay package to the post office.
These don't quite ring true.
It's been a long sunny winter of excellent Khmer food, lots of hard hard work, and serious if productive solitude. Not all fun and games
But - ins'allah - the fun and the travels start again tomorrow.....
The king has cancer, most people would agree that’s a painful illness, and you are hoping he dies from it, and say you’ll laugh when it happens. I’m not making this up, you’ve said it
What gets me is when people say (and they do regularly, to you quite a bit, for example) words to the effect of why are you posting on PB and not doing something more interesting, you sad, lonely fool. With the implication that their own life is bursting with excitement and challenges and whatnot. Using the word "lonely" falls into this category.
All duly noted. Onwards
I then also construct an axe of the two old parts I have put aside.
Are there now 2 grandfather's axes
or
Is the replacement parts the proper one
or
Does the reconstruction from the old parts form the proper one
or
Is neither the proper one - it has been made extinct?
This paradox is not easy.
As is the issue with William's personal problem
I used the term ‘loner’ actually, which is different from ‘lonely’ in many ways. Happy you’re amused anyway, it’s a nice feeling, who cares how you got there.
RM also does the universal service which Amazon doesn't, so you get letters and parcels sent for the same price whether to inner cities or outer rural areas
I hope I am wrong, obvs
I actually LIKE some of the royals (inasmuch as you can like public figures you have met only once or never), and that definitely includes Kate. She is impeccable in the role, despite much sneering and snobbery. She seems to have happy healthy kids, which suggests a good mother
The royals are lucky to have her
The govt need to get on with appointing new Counsellors of State. Perhaps it's also time to think about updating the Regency Act.
Is what you said. Just expand the post to see it there.
I mean to misquote other peoples' posts is all well and good. To misquote your own is a new take on it all.
I am sure now they have announced this they will do sod all.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/insurers-announce-action-to-tackle-rising-cost-of-motor-cover/ar-BB1iWdhr?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=ae6f651261ad44548ef02129c7a692f0&ei=53
As an institution, while I would not change it because we are where we are, I think it does repay some analysis as to relevance and viability in the present day.
And that is the stuff we know about so far. Starmer is noticeably vague when asked about reintroducing open immigration from the EU. The floodgates will open again, just when Sunak has brought in policies to finally close them.
The treatments were much more distressing.
Reminds me of the musings that come out of the BoE regarding the base rate.
I also don't care if they live or die, as I don't care if any celebrity, A or Z list, dies.
Wishing them dead is a bit much to be honest but it has no effect, so I'm not going to police how people think and PB shouldn't either.
If you were building the house now, you certainly woudn't built it with a bloody cathedral by the garden shed. It is ridiculous, per se
And yet the cathedral is of great antiquity, and is in places very beautiful, and the music at evensong is lovely, and all the family members have been buried in it since 1083, so it kind of embodies you
What you don't do is casually knock it down, and expect to get somethibg better in its stead. A small garden pond with a toad. A couple of gnomes?
Hint: it won't be better
They are also suggesting investing to reduce these costs by taking action on fraud and theft.
Let’s use Jefferson as an example. There was lots about him that wasn’t great and he was an enthusiastic slave owner.
But on balance he made a positive contribution to the world and should be celebrated for it
(No)
The Rwanda policy isn't disincentivising anyone -- don't make me laugh!
Can't those working in care already bring dependents with them?
We had open immigration from the EU for many years, and the total immigration was below what we've had since Brexit. If you want lower immigration, going back to Brexit arrangements is a step in the right direction.
The death of a monarch if you are an anti-monarchist is presumably critical to your political philosophy.
If he times it right we could get the US election/civil war, a general election, the Strictly final and another Statty Fyoonz all within a few weeks next winter. We've got the Olympics and another counter-offensive to keep us busy until that Gotterdammerung.
What's your opinion of the current government's migrant returns agreement with Albania?
If I strip my mountain bike, keep the frame and put all new components on it, I'd say it's my old bike but improved.
If I strip the components off it and put them on a new frame, it's a different bike.
I'd say the Japanese temple's core part is its spiritual aspect, the wood is just a component.