Looks like the rain has finally stopped, which is good because about 75% of the roads round here are flooded to some extent.
This is the new normal.
Warm and very wet winters.
I think I'd ban the phrase 'the new normal'. It seems to function as an excuse for spineless politicians and greasy corporates to enforce unpleasant situations on the public with no prospect of abatement.
We've had a good fiddle with climate this year, banning those maritime fuels, the effect of which was to make temperatures (sea temperatures at any rate) rise significantly. So far I don't think that situation has been reversed or any attempt made to mitigate it, despite various private jet-fuelled junkets. 'Decarbonise' is the only show in town, despite it seeming to have all the impact on climate that housewives donating their pots and pans had on Spitfire production.
We need creative solutions to optimise the climate, that work quickly, and to be prepared to bug out quickly it they're found not to work. Net Zero is tangential at best in this regard.
We need geo-engineering solutions to suck carbon back out the atmosphere en-masse, is what we need - and pronto.
Yes… and that’s why lots of people are working on making these solutions a reality. What I don’t understand is why Luckyguy1983 keeps posting as if no-one is looking into this.
Yip. Climeworks wants your hard cash right now. Hope it works.
Looks like the rain has finally stopped, which is good because about 75% of the roads round here are flooded to some extent.
This is the new normal.
Warm and very wet winters.
I think I'd ban the phrase 'the new normal'. It seems to function as an excuse for spineless politicians and greasy corporates to enforce unpleasant situations on the public with no prospect of abatement.
We've had a good fiddle with climate this year, banning those maritime fuels, the effect of which was to make temperatures (sea temperatures at any rate) rise significantly. So far I don't think that situation has been reversed or any attempt made to mitigate it, despite various private jet-fuelled junkets. 'Decarbonise' is the only show in town, despite it seeming to have all the impact on climate that housewives donating their pots and pans had on Spitfire production.
We need creative solutions to optimise the climate, that work quickly, and to be prepared to bug out quickly it they're found not to work. Net Zero is tangential at best in this regard.
We need geo-engineering solutions to suck carbon back out the atmosphere en-masse, is what we need - and pronto.
We need China and India implementing those solutions pronto. They are the buggers whose continued creation of carbon generation mean everyone else's efforts are failing to make a dent in the carbon in the atmosphere.
Although ten tidal lagoon power stations in the UK would reduce our contribution to carbon by ten million tonnes a year. Just sayin'....
The Republicans are having a lot of success in their 'war on woke' in the Biden presidency , you wonder if a Trump presidency would actually set their cause back.
Republican THINK they are having a lot of success with Wack War on Woke.
Evidence for that is bit thinner. For example 2023 elections.
Virginia 2021 is cited as example of anti-woke winning for GOP. However, when the now-Gov campaigned as pro-education, plenty of voters THOUGHT he meant improving teaching. When what he REALLY meant, was weaponizing school restrooms against trans and homos.
One reason why GOP failed to win majority in VA legislature in 2023 . . . and the Gov went from future POTUS prospect to just another lame duck.
So? I know some moron Tory MP is tweeting about it, but this isn't news. Easter confectionery lines go into wholesalers in December, Christmas ones in August. Its an expandable consumption category, so if you get products in early you sell more. Some stuff (Creme Eggs, The Big Purple One) would sell all year round.
I have no idea about a Tory mp tweets and to be fair nearly 60 years ago my family and I owned a newsagents and grocers and we did display Easter eggs in the new year
I expect it may not surprise many
I have no problem with you responding to Jake Berry. I have a problem with Jake Berry trying to create another culture wars woke issue with something that happens *every single year*.
Have you got your culture war/woke issue mixed up? I don’t think people have ever said it was woke to have Easter Eggs in the shops too early, the complaint from that angle is that they’re not called Easter Eggs isn’t it?
Looking at that Jake Berry video, he’s just saying he surprised Easter Eggs are in shops when Christmas was only last week, hardly attacking anyone for being woke.
Moaning about Christmas stuff being on sale earlier and earlier is traditional.
There probably graffiti about that at Pompeii.
Yes, the political correctness gone mad/woke angle is lack of religious narrative on the eggs, not when they go on sale
We’ve crossed the line now where people defending ‘woke’ are caricatures of the Daily Express readers they think they’re mocking
Remember how builders talking about their feelings made them ”woke builders”? That wasn’t people defending woke, it was the surely-never-a-self-caricature Daily Mail.
That wasn’t, but the matter we are talking about now seems to be - why would Easter Eggs going on sale in January be woke? Surely the complaint , if there is one, is that it’s crass commercialisation
Agree, not a woke issue. But what I find strange is that a 'senior' MP thinks it's worth doing a video about Easter eggs at Tesco in January and tweeting it out. Mind you, what do I know, given that it's had 2.7M views.
The “this isn’t about woke” posts by various people are very naive. This is a culture war post by Berry aimed at winding up people who get wound up by modern life.
Easter Eggs on New Years Day / It’s not Traditional/ Not like the good old days / I blame the permissive society
Blimey, you had a long time to try and wriggle out of that, or fess up that you’d mixed up the ‘Not Easter’ Eggs ‘woke’ issue with this one.
Why would people who are regarded as ‘woke’ be championing the right of Supermarkets to sell Easter Eggs in early January? It doesn’t seem that it should matter either way. You just seem to be writing your own pet hates into it having got the wrong end of the stick, like someone else did with the EU lightbulbs the other day
The Mirror ran an article moaning about it in mid December & The BBC here quote the Royal Society for Public Health complaining about the practice of early egg sales… so it’s hardly a right wing, culture war, anti woke thing at all
It does get difficult when noone has the slightest idea what 'woke' means. Even people who go on about it all the time have completely different examples to offer. Electric cars are 'woke' to many folk but the Blessed Elon wouldn't agree. Frankly if someone on the right fringe of politics decides they don't like Easter eggs in January then that phenomenon automatically becomes woke. To them at least.
Meanwhile the rest of us, in the real world, haven't got a clue what they are blathering on about.
Woke can be a bit nebulous but in my head ‘changing something that has been long accepted in order to avoid offending someone else (who isn’t actually offended by said thing)’. For instance the use of Winterval rather than Christmas, so as not to offend non Christians.
Sometimes the changes are sensible yet still derided as woke. See Batter rather than Batsmen (mainly for womens cricket, but will surely bleed back into mens too).
I suspect that most people actually do have a sense for what woke means, and the idea that it cannot be easily defined is not really fair. Define pornography?
So? I know some moron Tory MP is tweeting about it, but this isn't news. Easter confectionery lines go into wholesalers in December, Christmas ones in August. Its an expandable consumption category, so if you get products in early you sell more. Some stuff (Creme Eggs, The Big Purple One) would sell all year round.
I have no idea about a Tory mp tweets and to be fair nearly 60 years ago my family and I owned a newsagents and grocers and we did display Easter eggs in the new year
I expect it may not surprise many
I have no problem with you responding to Jake Berry. I have a problem with Jake Berry trying to create another culture wars woke issue with something that happens *every single year*.
Have you got your culture war/woke issue mixed up? I don’t think people have ever said it was woke to have Easter Eggs in the shops too early, the complaint from that angle is that they’re not called Easter Eggs isn’t it?
Looking at that Jake Berry video, he’s just saying he surprised Easter Eggs are in shops when Christmas was only last week, hardly attacking anyone for being woke.
Moaning about Christmas stuff being on sale earlier and earlier is traditional.
There probably graffiti about that at Pompeii.
Yes, the political correctness gone mad/woke angle is lack of religious narrative on the eggs, not when they go on sale
We’ve crossed the line now where people defending ‘woke’ are caricatures of the Daily Express readers they think they’re mocking
Remember how builders talking about their feelings made them ”woke builders”? That wasn’t people defending woke, it was the surely-never-a-self-caricature Daily Mail.
That wasn’t, but the matter we are talking about now seems to be - why would Easter Eggs going on sale in January be woke? Surely the complaint , if there is one, is that it’s crass commercialisation
Agree, not a woke issue. But what I find strange is that a 'senior' MP thinks it's worth doing a video about Easter eggs at Tesco in January and tweeting it out. Mind you, what do I know, given that it's had 2.7M views.
The “this isn’t about woke” posts by various people are very naive. This is a culture war post by Berry aimed at winding up people who get wound up by modern life.
Easter Eggs on New Years Day / It’s not Traditional/ Not like the good old days / I blame the permissive society
Blimey, you had a long time to try and wriggle out of that, or fess up that you’d mixed up the ‘Not Easter’ Eggs ‘woke’ issue with this one.
Why would people who are regarded as ‘woke’ be championing the right of Supermarkets to sell Easter Eggs in early January? It doesn’t seem that it should matter either way. You just seem to be writing your own pet hates into it having got the wrong end of the stick, like someone else did with the EU lightbulbs the other day
The Mirror ran an article moaning about it in mid December & The BBC here quote the Royal Society for Public Health complaining about the practice of early egg sales… so it’s hardly a right wing, culture war, anti woke thing at all
It does get difficult when noone has the slightest idea what 'woke' means. Even people who go on about it all the time have completely different
examples to offer. Electric cars are 'woke' to many folk but the Blessed Elon wouldn't agree.
Frankly if someone on the right fringe of politics decides they don't like Easter eggs in January then that phenomenon automatically becomes woke. To them at least.
Meanwhile the rest of us, in the real world, haven't got a clue what they are blathering on about.
Trying to imagine what a woke Easter would be. Surely the ‘woke’ want to diminish Christian festivals rather than get them going early? It’s not woke to put up Christmas decorations early is it?
As I said before, the old moan was Easter Eggs not mentioning Easter. Southam Observer used to go on & on about people complaining about it. Maybe trying to make it a multifaith occasion would upset traditionalists/make ‘woke’people happy
So? I know some moron Tory MP is tweeting about it, but this isn't news. Easter confectionery lines go into wholesalers in December, Christmas ones in August. Its an expandable consumption category, so if you get products in early you sell more. Some stuff (Creme Eggs, The Big Purple One) would sell all year round.
I have no idea about a Tory mp tweets and to be fair nearly 60 years ago my family and I owned a newsagents and grocers and we did display Easter eggs in the new year
I expect it may not surprise many
I have no problem with you responding to Jake Berry. I have a problem with Jake Berry trying to create another culture wars woke issue with something that happens *every single year*.
Have you got your culture war/woke issue mixed up? I don’t think people have ever said it was woke to have Easter Eggs in the shops too early, the complaint from that angle is that they’re not called Easter Eggs isn’t it?
Looking at that Jake Berry video, he’s just saying he surprised Easter Eggs are in shops when Christmas was only last week, hardly attacking anyone for being woke.
Moaning about Christmas stuff being on sale earlier and earlier is traditional.
There probably graffiti about that at Pompeii.
Yes, the political correctness gone mad/woke angle is lack of religious narrative on the eggs, not when they go on sale
We’ve crossed the line now where people defending ‘woke’ are caricatures of the Daily Express readers they think they’re mocking
Remember how builders talking about their feelings made them ”woke builders”? That wasn’t people defending woke, it was the surely-never-a-self-caricature Daily Mail.
That wasn’t, but the matter we are talking about now seems to be - why would Easter Eggs going on sale in January be woke? Surely the complaint , if there is one, is that it’s crass commercialisation
Agree, not a woke issue. But what I find strange is that a 'senior' MP thinks it's worth doing a video about Easter eggs at Tesco in January and tweeting it out. Mind you, what do I know, given that it's had 2.7M views.
The “this isn’t about woke” posts by various people are very naive. This is a culture war post by Berry aimed at winding up people who get wound up by modern life.
Easter Eggs on New Years Day / It’s not Traditional/ Not like the good old days / I blame the permissive society
Blimey, you had a long time to try and wriggle out of that, or fess up that you’d mixed up the ‘Not Easter’ Eggs ‘woke’ issue with this one.
Why would people who are regarded as ‘woke’ be championing the right of Supermarkets to sell Easter Eggs in early January? It doesn’t seem that it should matter either way. You just seem to be writing your own pet hates into it having got the wrong end of the stick, like someone else did with the EU lightbulbs the other day
The Mirror ran an article moaning about it in mid December & The BBC here quote the Royal Society for Public Health complaining about the practice of early egg sales… so it’s hardly a right wing, culture war, anti woke thing at all
It does get difficult when noone has the slightest idea what 'woke' means. Even people who go on about it all the time have completely different examples to offer. Electric cars are 'woke' to many folk but the Blessed Elon wouldn't agree. Frankly if someone on the right fringe of politics decides they don't like Easter eggs in January then that phenomenon automatically becomes woke. To them at least.
Meanwhile the rest of us, in the real world, haven't got a clue what they are blathering on about.
Woke can be a bit nebulous but in my head ‘changing something that has been long accepted in order to avoid offending someone else (who isn’t actually offended by said thing)’. For instance the use of Winterval rather than Christmas, so as not to offend non Christians.
Sometimes the changes are sensible yet still derided as woke. See Batter rather than Batsmen (mainly for womens cricket, but will surely bleed back into mens too).
I suspect that most people actually do have a sense for what woke means, and the idea that it cannot be easily defined is not really fair. Define pornography?
In Australia they’ve been calling batsmen ‘batters’ for ages, but they called fielders ‘fieldsmen’ at the same time
Makes sense to degender those words I think now I think
Looks like the rain has finally stopped, which is good because about 75% of the roads round here are flooded to some extent.
This is the new normal.
Warm and very wet winters.
I think I'd ban the phrase 'the new normal'. It seems to function as an excuse for spineless politicians and greasy corporates to enforce unpleasant situations on the public with no prospect of abatement.
We've had a good fiddle with climate this year, banning those maritime fuels, the effect of which was to make temperatures (sea temperatures at any rate) rise significantly. So far I don't think that situation has been reversed or any attempt made to mitigate it, despite various private jet-fuelled junkets. 'Decarbonise' is the only show in town, despite it seeming to have all the impact on climate that housewives donating their pots and pans had on Spitfire production.
We need creative solutions to optimise the climate, that work quickly, and to be prepared to bug out quickly it they're found not to work. Net Zero is tangential at best in this regard.
We need geo-engineering solutions to suck carbon back out the atmosphere en-masse, is what we need - and pronto.
Yes… and that’s why lots of people are working on making these solutions a reality. What I don’t understand is why Luckyguy1983 keeps posting as if no-one is looking into this.
The reason large scale geo-engineering isn’t being carried out (yet) is because of simple - and understandable - liability issues.
Global warming is the archetype of joint and several liability. Every country, every company, every government shares some responsibility and everyone shares in the effects, albeit unevenly. You can’t - despite some efforts - pin the blame on one actor.
When you geoengineer you create a specific and immediate effect which while predictable at global level is unpredictable at regional level, but provable. So if a nation or bloc decides to geoengineer and that causes drought in region x, they’re going to get sued. Whereas reducing an existing contribution to change, like CO2, NO2 or CH4 is not introducing a new trigger for change, it’s mitigating an existing one.
As for cutting maritime sulphate emissions, this is what’s known as a termination shock. Still to be definitively proven, but looking likely as a culprit for the sudden jump in North Atlantic temperatures this year. They were hiding the true scale of global warming, by a bit. But those emissions are dirty stuff and are a pretty fixed input - they probably held back warming by around 0.1C, and regionally possibly up to 0.4C. You either go cold turkey now or later.
Geoengineering solutions will be put into place as a last resort if everything else fails.
So? I know some moron Tory MP is tweeting about it, but this isn't news. Easter confectionery lines go into wholesalers in December, Christmas ones in August. Its an expandable consumption category, so if you get products in early you sell more. Some stuff (Creme Eggs, The Big Purple One) would sell all year round.
I have no idea about a Tory mp tweets and to be fair nearly 60 years ago my family and I owned a newsagents and grocers and we did display Easter eggs in the new year
I expect it may not surprise many
I have no problem with you responding to Jake Berry. I have a problem with Jake Berry trying to create another culture wars woke issue with something that happens *every single year*.
Have you got your culture war/woke issue mixed up? I don’t think people have ever said it was woke to have Easter Eggs in the shops too early, the complaint from that angle is that they’re not called Easter Eggs isn’t it?
Looking at that Jake Berry video, he’s just saying he surprised Easter Eggs are in shops when Christmas was only last week, hardly attacking anyone for being woke.
Moaning about Christmas stuff being on sale earlier and earlier is traditional.
There probably graffiti about that at Pompeii.
Yes, the political correctness gone mad/woke angle is lack of religious narrative on the eggs, not when they go on sale
We’ve crossed the line now where people defending ‘woke’ are caricatures of the Daily Express readers they think they’re mocking
Remember how builders talking about their feelings made them ”woke builders”? That wasn’t people defending woke, it was the surely-never-a-self-caricature Daily Mail.
That wasn’t, but the matter we are talking about now seems to be - why would Easter Eggs going on sale in January be woke? Surely the complaint , if there is one, is that it’s crass commercialisation
Agree, not a woke issue. But what I find strange is that a 'senior' MP thinks it's worth doing a video about Easter eggs at Tesco in January and tweeting it out. Mind you, what do I know, given that it's had 2.7M views.
The “this isn’t about woke” posts by various people are very naive. This is a culture war post by Berry aimed at winding up people who get wound up by modern life.
Easter Eggs on New Years Day / It’s not Traditional/ Not like the good old days / I blame the permissive society
Blimey, you had a long time to try and wriggle out of that, or fess up that you’d mixed up the ‘Not Easter’ Eggs ‘woke’ issue with this one.
Why would people who are regarded as ‘woke’ be championing the right of Supermarkets to sell Easter Eggs in early January? It doesn’t seem that it should matter either way. You just seem to be writing your own pet hates into it having got the wrong end of the stick, like someone else did with the EU lightbulbs the other day
The Mirror ran an article moaning about it in mid December & The BBC here quote the Royal Society for Public Health complaining about the practice of early egg sales… so it’s hardly a right wing, culture war, anti woke thing at all
It does get difficult when noone has the slightest idea what 'woke' means. Even people who go on about it all the time have completely different examples to offer. Electric cars are 'woke' to many folk but the Blessed Elon wouldn't agree. Frankly if someone on the right fringe of politics decides they don't like Easter eggs in January then that phenomenon automatically becomes woke. To them at least.
Meanwhile the rest of us, in the real world, haven't got a clue what they are blathering on about.
Woke can be a bit nebulous but in my head ‘changing something that has been long accepted in order to avoid offending someone else (who isn’t actually offended by said thing)’. For instance the use of Winterval rather than Christmas, so as not to offend non Christians.
Sometimes the changes are sensible yet still derided as woke. See Batter rather than Batsmen (mainly for womens cricket, but will surely bleed back into mens too).
I suspect that most people actually do have a sense for what woke means, and the idea that it cannot be easily defined is not really fair. Define pornography?
In Australia they’ve been calling batsmen ‘batters’ for ages, but they called fielders ‘fieldsmen’ at the same time
Makes sense to degender those words I think now I think
Until about 1965 they generally were called just 'bats' in this country. But to save confusion with the implement they were increasingly called 'batsmen.'
Everything else is in English cricket called 'er' (fielder, bowler, keeper, loser) so the change (which has been officially declared by the MCC) makes sense.
So? I know some moron Tory MP is tweeting about it, but this isn't news. Easter confectionery lines go into wholesalers in December, Christmas ones in August. Its an expandable consumption category, so if you get products in early you sell more. Some stuff (Creme Eggs, The Big Purple One) would sell all year round.
I have no idea about a Tory mp tweets and to be fair nearly 60 years ago my family and I owned a newsagents and grocers and we did display Easter eggs in the new year
I expect it may not surprise many
I have no problem with you responding to Jake Berry. I have a problem with Jake Berry trying to create another culture wars woke issue with something that happens *every single year*.
Have you got your culture war/woke issue mixed up? I don’t think people have ever said it was woke to have Easter Eggs in the shops too early, the complaint from that angle is that they’re not called Easter Eggs isn’t it?
Looking at that Jake Berry video, he’s just saying he surprised Easter Eggs are in shops when Christmas was only last week, hardly attacking anyone for being woke.
Moaning about Christmas stuff being on sale earlier and earlier is traditional.
There probably graffiti about that at Pompeii.
Yes, the political correctness gone mad/woke angle is lack of religious narrative on the eggs, not when they go on sale
We’ve crossed the line now where people defending ‘woke’ are caricatures of the Daily Express readers they think they’re mocking
Remember how builders talking about their feelings made them ”woke builders”? That wasn’t people defending woke, it was the surely-never-a-self-caricature Daily Mail.
That wasn’t, but the matter we are talking about now seems to be - why would Easter Eggs going on sale in January be woke? Surely the complaint , if there is one, is that it’s crass commercialisation
Agree, not a woke issue. But what I find strange is that a 'senior' MP thinks it's worth doing a video about Easter eggs at Tesco in January and tweeting it out. Mind you, what do I know, given that it's had 2.7M views.
The “this isn’t about woke” posts by various people are very naive. This is a culture war post by Berry aimed at winding up people who get wound up by modern life.
Easter Eggs on New Years Day / It’s not Traditional/ Not like the good old days / I blame the permissive society
Blimey, you had a long time to try and wriggle out of that, or fess up that you’d mixed up the ‘Not Easter’ Eggs ‘woke’ issue with this one.
Why would people who are regarded as ‘woke’ be championing the right of Supermarkets to sell Easter Eggs in early January? It doesn’t seem that it should matter either way. You just seem to be writing your own pet hates into it having got the wrong end of the stick, like someone else did with the EU lightbulbs the other day
The Mirror ran an article moaning about it in mid December & The BBC here quote the Royal Society for Public Health complaining about the practice of early egg sales… so it’s hardly a right wing, culture war, anti woke thing at all
It does get difficult when noone has the slightest idea what 'woke' means. Even people who go on about it all the time have completely different examples to offer. Electric cars are 'woke' to many folk but the Blessed Elon wouldn't agree. Frankly if someone on the right fringe of politics decides they don't like Easter eggs in January then that phenomenon automatically becomes woke. To them at least.
Meanwhile the rest of us, in the real world, haven't got a clue what they are blathering on about.
Woke can be a bit nebulous but in my head ‘changing something that has been long accepted in order to avoid offending someone else (who isn’t actually offended by said thing)’. For instance the use of Winterval rather than Christmas, so as not to offend non Christians.
Sometimes the changes are sensible yet still derided as woke. See Batter rather than Batsmen (mainly for womens cricket, but will surely bleed back into mens too).
I suspect that most people actually do have a sense for what woke means, and the idea that it cannot be easily defined is not really fair. Define pornography?
Woke is obviously hard to define, like 'centre right' or 'liberal'. It's abstract. I would tentatively suggest that it identifies a particular group, who have similarities and overlaps with others.
These are 9 suggested identifying characteristics of woke, none unique:
Disdain for difference, apart from specially designated difference A group think mindset A puritanlike withdrawal from the unwoke or worldly A lack of the negative capability to hold, treasure and value uncertainty Absolute assurance A single issue mindset, accompanied by a denial that this is so Moral absolutism Sanctions for non compliance An intense hatred of the liberal and enlightenment project.
So? I know some moron Tory MP is tweeting about it, but this isn't news. Easter confectionery lines go into wholesalers in December, Christmas ones in August. Its an expandable consumption category, so if you get products in early you sell more. Some stuff (Creme Eggs, The Big Purple One) would sell all year round.
I have no idea about a Tory mp tweets and to be fair nearly 60 years ago my family and I owned a newsagents and grocers and we did display Easter eggs in the new year
I expect it may not surprise many
I have no problem with you responding to Jake Berry. I have a problem with Jake Berry trying to create another culture wars woke issue with something that happens *every single year*.
Have you got your culture war/woke issue mixed up? I don’t think people have ever said it was woke to have Easter Eggs in the shops too early, the complaint from that angle is that they’re not called Easter Eggs isn’t it?
Looking at that Jake Berry video, he’s just saying he surprised Easter Eggs are in shops when Christmas was only last week, hardly attacking anyone for being woke.
Moaning about Christmas stuff being on sale earlier and earlier is traditional.
There probably graffiti about that at Pompeii.
Yes, the political correctness gone mad/woke angle is lack of religious narrative on the eggs, not when they go on sale
We’ve crossed the line now where people defending ‘woke’ are caricatures of the Daily Express readers they think they’re mocking
Remember how builders talking about their feelings made them ”woke builders”? That wasn’t people defending woke, it was the surely-never-a-self-caricature Daily Mail.
That wasn’t, but the matter we are talking about now seems to be - why would Easter Eggs going on sale in January be woke? Surely the complaint , if there is one, is that it’s crass commercialisation
Agree, not a woke issue. But what I find strange is that a 'senior' MP thinks it's worth doing a video about Easter eggs at Tesco in January and tweeting it out. Mind you, what do I know, given that it's had 2.7M views.
The “this isn’t about woke” posts by various people are very naive. This is a culture war post by Berry aimed at winding up people who get wound up by modern life.
Easter Eggs on New Years Day / It’s not Traditional/ Not like the good old days / I blame the permissive society
Blimey, you had a long time to try and wriggle out of that, or fess up that you’d mixed up the ‘Not Easter’ Eggs ‘woke’ issue with this one.
Why would people who are regarded as ‘woke’ be championing the right of Supermarkets to sell Easter Eggs in early January? It doesn’t seem that it should matter either way. You just seem to be writing your own pet hates into it having got the wrong end of the stick, like someone else did with the EU lightbulbs the other day
The Mirror ran an article moaning about it in mid December & The BBC here quote the Royal Society for Public Health complaining about the practice of early egg sales… so it’s hardly a right wing, culture war, anti woke thing at all
It does get difficult when noone has the slightest idea what 'woke' means. Even people who go on about it all the time have completely different examples to offer. Electric cars are 'woke' to many folk but the Blessed Elon wouldn't agree. Frankly if someone on the right fringe of politics decides they don't like Easter eggs in January then that phenomenon automatically becomes woke. To them at least.
Meanwhile the rest of us, in the real world, haven't got a clue what they are blathering on about.
Woke can be a bit nebulous but in my head ‘changing something that has been long accepted in order to avoid offending someone else (who isn’t actually offended by said thing)’. For instance the use of Winterval rather than Christmas, so as not to offend non Christians.
Sometimes the changes are sensible yet still derided as woke. See Batter rather than Batsmen (mainly for womens cricket, but will surely bleed back into mens too).
I suspect that most people actually do have a sense for what woke means, and the idea that it cannot be easily defined is not really fair. Define pornography?
In Australia they’ve been calling batsmen ‘batters’ for ages, but they called fielders ‘fieldsmen’ at the same time
Makes sense to degender those words I think now I think
Until about 1965 they generally were called just 'bats' in this country. But to save confusion with the implement they were increasingly called 'batsmen.'
Everything else is in English cricket called 'er' (fielder, bowler, keeper, loser) so the change (which has been officially declared by the MCC) makes sense.
I'm having difficulty remembering it though.
I find it difficult to hear the word 'batter' without thinking 'a creamy suspension of flour and water'.
Looks like the rain has finally stopped, which is good because about 75% of the roads round here are flooded to some extent.
This is the new normal.
Warm and very wet winters.
I think I'd ban the phrase 'the new normal'. It seems to function as an excuse for spineless politicians and greasy corporates to enforce unpleasant situations on the public with no prospect of abatement.
We've had a good fiddle with climate this year, banning those maritime fuels, the effect of which was to make temperatures (sea temperatures at any rate) rise significantly. So far I don't think that situation has been reversed or any attempt made to mitigate it, despite various private jet-fuelled junkets. 'Decarbonise' is the only show in town, despite it seeming to have all the impact on climate that housewives donating their pots and pans had on Spitfire production.
We need creative solutions to optimise the climate, that work quickly, and to be prepared to bug out quickly it they're found not to work. Net Zero is tangential at best in this regard.
We need geo-engineering solutions to suck carbon back out the atmosphere en-masse, is what we need - and pronto.
Yes… and that’s why lots of people are working on making these solutions a reality. What I don’t understand is why Luckyguy1983 keeps posting as if no-one is looking into this.
The reason large scale geo-engineering isn’t being carried out (yet) is because of simple - and understandable - liability issues.
Global warming is the archetype of joint and several liability. Every country, every company, every government shares some responsibility and everyone shares in the effects, albeit unevenly. You can’t - despite some efforts - pin the blame on one actor.
When you geoengineer you create a specific and immediate effect which while predictable at global level is unpredictable at regional level, but provable. So if a nation or bloc decides to geoengineer and that causes drought in region x, they’re going to get sued. Whereas reducing an existing contribution to change, like CO2, NO2 or CH4 is not introducing a new trigger for change, it’s mitigating an existing one.
As for cutting maritime sulphate emissions, this is what’s known as a termination shock. Still to be definitively proven, but looking likely as a culprit for the sudden jump in North Atlantic temperatures this year. They were hiding the true scale of global warming, by a bit. But those emissions are dirty stuff and are a pretty fixed input - they probably held back warming by around 0.1C, and regionally possibly up to 0.4C. You either go cold turkey now or later.
Geoengineering solutions will be put into place as a last resort if everything else fails.
This is an utterly indefensible post. When people are being asked effectively to accept a precipitous fall in their living standards and outrageous infringements on their freedoms, you can wave away a huge change in temperature, entirely attributable to human regulatory meddling by the same fuckwits lecturing us about 'the real price of energy' and 'the new normal' and suggest that any solutions to this will be applied 'as a last resort is everything (for which read the impoverishment of the West) else fails'.
A more cynical person than myself might suspect that policy makers and their corporate sponsors are quite delighted with the temperature increase their meddling has caused - it has created even more lovely alarm around the climate after all.
So? I know some moron Tory MP is tweeting about it, but this isn't news. Easter confectionery lines go into wholesalers in December, Christmas ones in August. Its an expandable consumption category, so if you get products in early you sell more. Some stuff (Creme Eggs, The Big Purple One) would sell all year round.
I have no idea about a Tory mp tweets and to be fair nearly 60 years ago my family and I owned a newsagents and grocers and we did display Easter eggs in the new year
I expect it may not surprise many
I have no problem with you responding to Jake Berry. I have a problem with Jake Berry trying to create another culture wars woke issue with something that happens *every single year*.
Have you got your culture war/woke issue mixed up? I don’t think people have ever said it was woke to have Easter Eggs in the shops too early, the complaint from that angle is that they’re not called Easter Eggs isn’t it?
Looking at that Jake Berry video, he’s just saying he surprised Easter Eggs are in shops when Christmas was only last week, hardly attacking anyone for being woke.
Moaning about Christmas stuff being on sale earlier and earlier is traditional.
There probably graffiti about that at Pompeii.
Yes, the political correctness gone mad/woke angle is lack of religious narrative on the eggs, not when they go on sale
We’ve crossed the line now where people defending ‘woke’ are caricatures of the Daily Express readers they think they’re mocking
Remember how builders talking about their feelings made them ”woke builders”? That wasn’t people defending woke, it was the surely-never-a-self-caricature Daily Mail.
That wasn’t, but the matter we are talking about now seems to be - why would Easter Eggs going on sale in January be woke? Surely the complaint , if there is one, is that it’s crass commercialisation
Agree, not a woke issue. But what I find strange is that a 'senior' MP thinks it's worth doing a video about Easter eggs at Tesco in January and tweeting it out. Mind you, what do I know, given that it's had 2.7M views.
The “this isn’t about woke” posts by various people are very naive. This is a culture war post by Berry aimed at winding up people who get wound up by modern life.
Easter Eggs on New Years Day / It’s not Traditional/ Not like the good old days / I blame the permissive society
Blimey, you had a long time to try and wriggle out of that, or fess up that you’d mixed up the ‘Not Easter’ Eggs ‘woke’ issue with this one.
Why would people who are regarded as ‘woke’ be championing the right of Supermarkets to sell Easter Eggs in early January? It doesn’t seem that it should matter either way. You just seem to be writing your own pet hates into it having got the wrong end of the stick, like someone else did with the EU lightbulbs the other day
The Mirror ran an article moaning about it in mid December & The BBC here quote the Royal Society for Public Health complaining about the practice of early egg sales… so it’s hardly a right wing, culture war, anti woke thing at all
It does get difficult when noone has the slightest idea what 'woke' means. Even people who go on about it all the time have completely different examples to offer. Electric cars are 'woke' to many folk but the Blessed Elon wouldn't agree. Frankly if someone on the right fringe of politics decides they don't like Easter eggs in January then that phenomenon automatically becomes woke. To them at least.
Meanwhile the rest of us, in the real world, haven't got a clue what they are blathering on about.
Woke can be a bit nebulous but in my head ‘changing something that has been long accepted in order to avoid offending someone else (who isn’t actually offended by said thing)’. For instance the use of Winterval rather than Christmas, so as not to offend non Christians.
Sometimes the changes are sensible yet still derided as woke. See Batter rather than Batsmen (mainly for womens cricket, but will surely bleed back into mens too).
I suspect that most people actually do have a sense for what woke means, and the idea that it cannot be easily defined is not really fair. Define pornography?
In Australia they’ve been calling batsmen ‘batters’ for ages, but they called fielders ‘fieldsmen’ at the same time
Makes sense to degender those words I think now I think
Until about 1965 they generally were called just 'bats' in this country. But to save confusion with the implement they were increasingly called 'batsmen.'
Everything else is in English cricket called 'er' (fielder, bowler, keeper, loser) so the change (which has been officially declared by the MCC) makes sense.
I'm having difficulty remembering it though.
I find it difficult to hear the word 'batter' without thinking 'a creamy suspension of flour and water'.
So? I know some moron Tory MP is tweeting about it, but this isn't news. Easter confectionery lines go into wholesalers in December, Christmas ones in August. Its an expandable consumption category, so if you get products in early you sell more. Some stuff (Creme Eggs, The Big Purple One) would sell all year round.
I have no idea about a Tory mp tweets and to be fair nearly 60 years ago my family and I owned a newsagents and grocers and we did display Easter eggs in the new year
I expect it may not surprise many
I have no problem with you responding to Jake Berry. I have a problem with Jake Berry trying to create another culture wars woke issue with something that happens *every single year*.
Have you got your culture war/woke issue mixed up? I don’t think people have ever said it was woke to have Easter Eggs in the shops too early, the complaint from that angle is that they’re not called Easter Eggs isn’t it?
Looking at that Jake Berry video, he’s just saying he surprised Easter Eggs are in shops when Christmas was only last week, hardly attacking anyone for being woke.
Moaning about Christmas stuff being on sale earlier and earlier is traditional.
There probably graffiti about that at Pompeii.
Yes, the political correctness gone mad/woke angle is lack of religious narrative on the eggs, not when they go on sale
We’ve crossed the line now where people defending ‘woke’ are caricatures of the Daily Express readers they think they’re mocking
Remember how builders talking about their feelings made them ”woke builders”? That wasn’t people defending woke, it was the surely-never-a-self-caricature Daily Mail.
That wasn’t, but the matter we are talking about now seems to be - why would Easter Eggs going on sale in January be woke? Surely the complaint , if there is one, is that it’s crass commercialisation
Agree, not a woke issue. But what I find strange is that a 'senior' MP thinks it's worth doing a video about Easter eggs at Tesco in January and tweeting it out. Mind you, what do I know, given that it's had 2.7M views.
The “this isn’t about woke” posts by various people are very naive. This is a culture war post by Berry aimed at winding up people who get wound up by modern life.
Easter Eggs on New Years Day / It’s not Traditional/ Not like the good old days / I blame the permissive society
Blimey, you had a long time to try and wriggle out of that, or fess up that you’d mixed up the ‘Not Easter’ Eggs ‘woke’ issue with this one.
Why would people who are regarded as ‘woke’ be championing the right of Supermarkets to sell Easter Eggs in early January? It doesn’t seem that it should matter either way. You just seem to be writing your own pet hates into it having got the wrong end of the stick, like someone else did with the EU lightbulbs the other day
The Mirror ran an article moaning about it in mid December & The BBC here quote the Royal Society for Public Health complaining about the practice of early egg sales… so it’s hardly a right wing, culture war, anti woke thing at all
It does get difficult when noone has the slightest idea what 'woke' means. Even people who go on about it all the time have completely different
examples to offer. Electric cars are 'woke' to many folk but the Blessed Elon wouldn't agree.
Frankly if someone on the right fringe of politics decides they don't like Easter eggs in January then that phenomenon automatically becomes woke. To them at least.
Meanwhile the rest of us, in the real world, haven't got a clue what they are blathering on about.
Trying to imagine what a woke Easter would be. Surely the ‘woke’ want to diminish Christian festivals rather than get them going early? It’s not woke to put up Christmas decorations early is it?
As I said before, the old moan was Easter Eggs not mentioning Easter. Southam Observer used to go on & on about people complaining about it. Maybe trying to make it a multifaith occasion would upset traditionalists/make ‘woke’people happy
Personally, I blame Fred Astaire and Judy Garland . . .
So? I know some moron Tory MP is tweeting about it, but this isn't news. Easter confectionery lines go into wholesalers in December, Christmas ones in August. Its an expandable consumption category, so if you get products in early you sell more. Some stuff (Creme Eggs, The Big Purple One) would sell all year round.
I have no idea about a Tory mp tweets and to be fair nearly 60 years ago my family and I owned a newsagents and grocers and we did display Easter eggs in the new year
I expect it may not surprise many
I have no problem with you responding to Jake Berry. I have a problem with Jake Berry trying to create another culture wars woke issue with something that happens *every single year*.
Have you got your culture war/woke issue mixed up? I don’t think people have ever said it was woke to have Easter Eggs in the shops too early, the complaint from that angle is that they’re not called Easter Eggs isn’t it?
Looking at that Jake Berry video, he’s just saying he surprised Easter Eggs are in shops when Christmas was only last week, hardly attacking anyone for being woke.
Moaning about Christmas stuff being on sale earlier and earlier is traditional.
There probably graffiti about that at Pompeii.
Yes, the political correctness gone mad/woke angle is lack of religious narrative on the eggs, not when they go on sale
We’ve crossed the line now where people defending ‘woke’ are caricatures of the Daily Express readers they think they’re mocking
Remember how builders talking about their feelings made them ”woke builders”? That wasn’t people defending woke, it was the surely-never-a-self-caricature Daily Mail.
That wasn’t, but the matter we are talking about now seems to be - why would Easter Eggs going on sale in January be woke? Surely the complaint , if there is one, is that it’s crass commercialisation
Agree, not a woke issue. But what I find strange is that a 'senior' MP thinks it's worth doing a video about Easter eggs at Tesco in January and tweeting it out. Mind you, what do I know, given that it's had 2.7M views.
The “this isn’t about woke” posts by various people are very naive. This is a culture war post by Berry aimed at winding up people who get wound up by modern life.
Easter Eggs on New Years Day / It’s not Traditional/ Not like the good old days / I blame the permissive society
Blimey, you had a long time to try and wriggle out of that, or fess up that you’d mixed up the ‘Not Easter’ Eggs ‘woke’ issue with this one.
Why would people who are regarded as ‘woke’ be championing the right of Supermarkets to sell Easter Eggs in early January? It doesn’t seem that it should matter either way. You just seem to be writing your own pet hates into it having got the wrong end of the stick, like someone else did with the EU lightbulbs the other day
The Mirror ran an article moaning about it in mid December & The BBC here quote the Royal Society for Public Health complaining about the practice of early egg sales… so it’s hardly a right wing, culture war, anti woke thing at all
It does get difficult when noone has the slightest idea what 'woke' means. Even people who go on about it all the time have completely different examples to offer. Electric cars are 'woke' to many folk but the Blessed Elon wouldn't agree. Frankly if someone on the right fringe of politics decides they don't like Easter eggs in January then that phenomenon automatically becomes woke. To them at least.
Meanwhile the rest of us, in the real world, haven't got a clue what they are blathering on about.
Woke can be a bit nebulous but in my head ‘changing something that has been long accepted in order to avoid offending someone else (who isn’t actually offended by said thing)’. For instance the use of Winterval rather than Christmas, so as not to offend non Christians.
Sometimes the changes are sensible yet still derided as woke. See Batter rather than Batsmen (mainly for womens cricket, but will surely bleed back into mens too).
I suspect that most people actually do have a sense for what woke means, and the idea that it cannot be easily defined is not really fair. Define pornography?
In Australia they’ve been calling batsmen ‘batters’ for ages, but they called fielders ‘fieldsmen’ at the same time
Makes sense to degender those words I think now I think
Until about 1965 they generally were called just 'bats' in this country. But to save confusion with the implement they were increasingly called 'batsmen.'
Everything else is in English cricket called 'er' (fielder, bowler, keeper, loser) so the change (which has been officially declared by the MCC) makes sense.
I'm having difficulty remembering it though.
I find it difficult to hear the word 'batter' without thinking 'a creamy suspension of flour and water'.
So? I know some moron Tory MP is tweeting about it, but this isn't news. Easter confectionery lines go into wholesalers in December, Christmas ones in August. Its an expandable consumption category, so if you get products in early you sell more. Some stuff (Creme Eggs, The Big Purple One) would sell all year round.
I have no idea about a Tory mp tweets and to be fair nearly 60 years ago my family and I owned a newsagents and grocers and we did display Easter eggs in the new year
I expect it may not surprise many
I have no problem with you responding to Jake Berry. I have a problem with Jake Berry trying to create another culture wars woke issue with something that happens *every single year*.
Have you got your culture war/woke issue mixed up? I don’t think people have ever said it was woke to have Easter Eggs in the shops too early, the complaint from that angle is that they’re not called Easter Eggs isn’t it?
Looking at that Jake Berry video, he’s just saying he surprised Easter Eggs are in shops when Christmas was only last week, hardly attacking anyone for being woke.
Moaning about Christmas stuff being on sale earlier and earlier is traditional.
There probably graffiti about that at Pompeii.
Yes, the political correctness gone mad/woke angle is lack of religious narrative on the eggs, not when they go on sale
We’ve crossed the line now where people defending ‘woke’ are caricatures of the Daily Express readers they think they’re mocking
Remember how builders talking about their feelings made them ”woke builders”? That wasn’t people defending woke, it was the surely-never-a-self-caricature Daily Mail.
That wasn’t, but the matter we are talking about now seems to be - why would Easter Eggs going on sale in January be woke? Surely the complaint , if there is one, is that it’s crass commercialisation
Agree, not a woke issue. But what I find strange is that a 'senior' MP thinks it's worth doing a video about Easter eggs at Tesco in January and tweeting it out. Mind you, what do I know, given that it's had 2.7M views.
The “this isn’t about woke” posts by various people are very naive. This is a culture war post by Berry aimed at winding up people who get wound up by modern life.
Easter Eggs on New Years Day / It’s not Traditional/ Not like the good old days / I blame the permissive society
Blimey, you had a long time to try and wriggle out of that, or fess up that you’d mixed up the ‘Not Easter’ Eggs ‘woke’ issue with this one.
Why would people who are regarded as ‘woke’ be championing the right of Supermarkets to sell Easter Eggs in early January? It doesn’t seem that it should matter either way. You just seem to be writing your own pet hates into it having got the wrong end of the stick, like someone else did with the EU lightbulbs the other day
The Mirror ran an article moaning about it in mid December & The BBC here quote the Royal Society for Public Health complaining about the practice of early egg sales… so it’s hardly a right wing, culture war, anti woke thing at all
It does get difficult when noone has the slightest idea what 'woke' means. Even people who go on about it all the time have completely different examples to offer. Electric cars are 'woke' to many folk but the Blessed Elon wouldn't agree. Frankly if someone on the right fringe of politics decides they don't like Easter eggs in January then that phenomenon automatically becomes woke. To them at least.
Meanwhile the rest of us, in the real world, haven't got a clue what they are blathering on about.
Woke can be a bit nebulous but in my head ‘changing something that has been long accepted in order to avoid offending someone else (who isn’t actually offended by said thing)’. For instance the use of Winterval rather than Christmas, so as not to offend non Christians.
Sometimes the changes are sensible yet still derided as woke. See Batter rather than Batsmen (mainly for womens cricket, but will surely bleed back into mens too).
I suspect that most people actually do have a sense for what woke means, and the idea that it cannot be easily defined is not really fair. Define pornography?
In Australia they’ve been calling batsmen ‘batters’ for ages, but they called fielders ‘fieldsmen’ at the same time
Makes sense to degender those words I think now I think
Until about 1965 they generally were called just 'bats' in this country. But to save confusion with the implement they were increasingly called 'batsmen.'
Everything else is in English cricket called 'er' (fielder, bowler, keeper, loser) so the change (which has been officially declared by the MCC) makes sense.
I'm having difficulty remembering it though.
I find it difficult to hear the word 'batter' without thinking 'a creamy suspension of flour and water'.
Your thought process on this seems fishy.
As in that old fried-fish-house phrase - "Batter up!"
So? I know some moron Tory MP is tweeting about it, but this isn't news. Easter confectionery lines go into wholesalers in December, Christmas ones in August. Its an expandable consumption category, so if you get products in early you sell more. Some stuff (Creme Eggs, The Big Purple One) would sell all year round.
I have no idea about a Tory mp tweets and to be fair nearly 60 years ago my family and I owned a newsagents and grocers and we did display Easter eggs in the new year
I expect it may not surprise many
I have no problem with you responding to Jake Berry. I have a problem with Jake Berry trying to create another culture wars woke issue with something that happens *every single year*.
Have you got your culture war/woke issue mixed up? I don’t think people have ever said it was woke to have Easter Eggs in the shops too early, the complaint from that angle is that they’re not called Easter Eggs isn’t it?
Looking at that Jake Berry video, he’s just saying he surprised Easter Eggs are in shops when Christmas was only last week, hardly attacking anyone for being woke.
Moaning about Christmas stuff being on sale earlier and earlier is traditional.
There probably graffiti about that at Pompeii.
Yes, the political correctness gone mad/woke angle is lack of religious narrative on the eggs, not when they go on sale
We’ve crossed the line now where people defending ‘woke’ are caricatures of the Daily Express readers they think they’re mocking
Remember how builders talking about their feelings made them ”woke builders”? That wasn’t people defending woke, it was the surely-never-a-self-caricature Daily Mail.
That wasn’t, but the matter we are talking about now seems to be - why would Easter Eggs going on sale in January be woke? Surely the complaint , if there is one, is that it’s crass commercialisation
Agree, not a woke issue. But what I find strange is that a 'senior' MP thinks it's worth doing a video about Easter eggs at Tesco in January and tweeting it out. Mind you, what do I know, given that it's had 2.7M views.
The “this isn’t about woke” posts by various people are very naive. This is a culture war post by Berry aimed at winding up people who get wound up by modern life.
Easter Eggs on New Years Day / It’s not Traditional/ Not like the good old days / I blame the permissive society
Blimey, you had a long time to try and wriggle out of that, or fess up that you’d mixed up the ‘Not Easter’ Eggs ‘woke’ issue with this one.
Why would people who are regarded as ‘woke’ be championing the right of Supermarkets to sell Easter Eggs in early January? It doesn’t seem that it should matter either way. You just seem to be writing your own pet hates into it having got the wrong end of the stick, like someone else did with the EU lightbulbs the other day
The Mirror ran an article moaning about it in mid December & The BBC here quote the Royal Society for Public Health complaining about the practice of early egg sales… so it’s hardly a right wing, culture war, anti woke thing at all
It does get difficult when noone has the slightest idea what 'woke' means. Even people who go on about it all the time have completely different examples to offer. Electric cars are 'woke' to many folk but the Blessed Elon wouldn't agree. Frankly if someone on the right fringe of politics decides they don't like Easter eggs in January then that phenomenon automatically becomes woke. To them at least.
Meanwhile the rest of us, in the real world, haven't got a clue what they are blathering on about.
Woke can be a bit nebulous but in my head ‘changing something that has been long accepted in order to avoid offending someone else (who isn’t actually offended by said thing)’. For instance the use of Winterval rather than Christmas, so as not to offend non Christians.
Sometimes the changes are sensible yet still derided as woke. See Batter rather than Batsmen (mainly for womens cricket, but will surely bleed back into mens too).
I suspect that most people actually do have a sense for what woke means, and the idea that it cannot be easily defined is not really fair. Define pornography?
In Australia they’ve been calling batsmen ‘batters’ for ages, but they called fielders ‘fieldsmen’ at the same time
Makes sense to degender those words I think now I think
Until about 1965 they generally were called just 'bats' in this country. But to save confusion with the implement they were increasingly called 'batsmen.'
Everything else is in English cricket called 'er' (fielder, bowler, keeper, loser) so the change (which has been officially declared by the MCC) makes sense.
I'm having difficulty remembering it though.
I find it difficult to hear the word 'batter' without thinking 'a creamy suspension of flour and water'.
Is this what eternal recurrence is like? We had the batter debate about 2 days ago. (ICYMI Batter is good for you, all its ingredients are fine, and it goes well with fish especially in the west of Scotland but don't eat it all at once).
Looks like the rain has finally stopped, which is good because about 75% of the roads round here are flooded to some extent.
This is the new normal.
Warm and very wet winters.
I think I'd ban the phrase 'the new normal'. It seems to function as an excuse for spineless politicians and greasy corporates to enforce unpleasant situations on the public with no prospect of abatement.
We've had a good fiddle with climate this year, banning those maritime fuels, the effect of which was to make temperatures (sea temperatures at any rate) rise significantly. So far I don't think that situation has been reversed or any attempt made to mitigate it, despite various private jet-fuelled junkets. 'Decarbonise' is the only show in town, despite it seeming to have all the impact on climate that housewives donating their pots and pans had on Spitfire production.
We need creative solutions to optimise the climate, that work quickly, and to be prepared to bug out quickly it they're found not to work. Net Zero is tangential at best in this regard.
We need geo-engineering solutions to suck carbon back out the atmosphere en-masse, is what we need - and pronto.
Yes… and that’s why lots of people are working on making these solutions a reality. What I don’t understand is why Luckyguy1983 keeps posting as if no-one is looking into this.
The reason large scale geo-engineering isn’t being carried out (yet) is because of simple - and understandable - liability issues.
Global warming is the archetype of joint and several liability. Every country, every company, every government shares some responsibility and everyone shares in the effects, albeit unevenly. You can’t - despite some efforts - pin the blame on one actor.
When you geoengineer you create a specific and immediate effect which while predictable at global level is unpredictable at regional level, but provable. So if a nation or bloc decides to geoengineer and that causes drought in region x, they’re going to get sued. Whereas reducing an existing contribution to change, like CO2, NO2 or CH4 is not introducing a new trigger for change, it’s mitigating an existing one.
As for cutting maritime sulphate emissions, this is what’s known as a termination shock. Still to be definitively proven, but looking likely as a culprit for the sudden jump in North Atlantic temperatures this year. They were hiding the true scale of global warming, by a bit. But those emissions are dirty stuff and are a pretty fixed input - they probably held back warming by around 0.1C, and regionally possibly up to 0.4C. You either go cold turkey now or later.
Geoengineering solutions will be put into place as a last resort if everything else fails.
This is an utterly indefensible post. When people are being asked effectively to accept a precipitous fall in their living standards and outrageous infringements on their freedoms, you can wave away a huge change in temperature, entirely attributable to human regulatory meddling by the same fuckwits lecturing us about 'the real price of energy' and 'the new normal' and suggest that any solutions to this will be applied 'as a last resort is everything (for which read the impoverishment of the West) else fails'.
A more cynical person than myself might suspect that policy makers and their corporate sponsors are quite delighted with the temperature increase their meddling has caused - it has created even more lovely alarm around the climate after all.
Your attitude is I’m afraid indefensible. You are seemingly perfectly at ease with the idea human emissions can and do have major effects on the climate, as you’ve jumped on the impact of sulphate emissions with great gusto, yet remain completely unbothered by - indeed enthusiastically supportive of - continuing the mass experiment of burning through our fossil fuels until the world burns.
150 years ago you’d have been arguing that regulating mercury dumping into the Mersey was an outrageous infringement on people’s livelihoods.
"We’ve never seen the like. We’ve never even seen the vaguely reminiscent. Luke Littler has produced the performance of his or anyone else’s life to pulverise a former world champion in brilliant form."
So? I know some moron Tory MP is tweeting about it, but this isn't news. Easter confectionery lines go into wholesalers in December, Christmas ones in August. Its an expandable consumption category, so if you get products in early you sell more. Some stuff (Creme Eggs, The Big Purple One) would sell all year round.
I have no idea about a Tory mp tweets and to be fair nearly 60 years ago my family and I owned a newsagents and grocers and we did display Easter eggs in the new year
I expect it may not surprise many
I have no problem with you responding to Jake Berry. I have a problem with Jake Berry trying to create another culture wars woke issue with something that happens *every single year*.
Have you got your culture war/woke issue mixed up? I don’t think people have ever said it was woke to have Easter Eggs in the shops too early, the complaint from that angle is that they’re not called Easter Eggs isn’t it?
Looking at that Jake Berry video, he’s just saying he surprised Easter Eggs are in shops when Christmas was only last week, hardly attacking anyone for being woke.
Moaning about Christmas stuff being on sale earlier and earlier is traditional.
There probably graffiti about that at Pompeii.
Yes, the political correctness gone mad/woke angle is lack of religious narrative on the eggs, not when they go on sale
We’ve crossed the line now where people defending ‘woke’ are caricatures of the Daily Express readers they think they’re mocking
Remember how builders talking about their feelings made them ”woke builders”? That wasn’t people defending woke, it was the surely-never-a-self-caricature Daily Mail.
That wasn’t, but the matter we are talking about now seems to be - why would Easter Eggs going on sale in January be woke? Surely the complaint , if there is one, is that it’s crass commercialisation
Agree, not a woke issue. But what I find strange is that a 'senior' MP thinks it's worth doing a video about Easter eggs at Tesco in January and tweeting it out. Mind you, what do I know, given that it's had 2.7M views.
The “this isn’t about woke” posts by various people are very naive. This is a culture war post by Berry aimed at winding up people who get wound up by modern life.
Easter Eggs on New Years Day / It’s not Traditional/ Not like the good old days / I blame the permissive society
Blimey, you had a long time to try and wriggle out of that, or fess up that you’d mixed up the ‘Not Easter’ Eggs ‘woke’ issue with this one.
Why would people who are regarded as ‘woke’ be championing the right of Supermarkets to sell Easter Eggs in early January? It doesn’t seem that it should matter either way. You just seem to be writing your own pet hates into it having got the wrong end of the stick, like someone else did with the EU lightbulbs the other day
The Mirror ran an article moaning about it in mid December & The BBC here quote the Royal Society for Public Health complaining about the practice of early egg sales… so it’s hardly a right wing, culture war, anti woke thing at all
It does get difficult when noone has the slightest idea what 'woke' means. Even people who go on about it all the time have completely different examples to offer. Electric cars are 'woke' to many folk but the Blessed Elon wouldn't agree. Frankly if someone on the right fringe of politics decides they don't like Easter eggs in January then that phenomenon automatically becomes woke. To them at least.
Meanwhile the rest of us, in the real world, haven't got a clue what they are blathering on about.
Woke can be a bit nebulous but in my head ‘changing something that has been long accepted in order to avoid offending someone else (who isn’t actually offended by said thing)’. For instance the use of Winterval rather than Christmas, so as not to offend non Christians.
Sometimes the changes are sensible yet still derided as woke. See Batter rather than Batsmen (mainly for womens cricket, but will surely bleed back into mens too).
I suspect that most people actually do have a sense for what woke means, and the idea that it cannot be easily defined is not really fair. Define pornography?
Woke is obviously hard to define, like 'centre right' or 'liberal'. It's abstract. I would tentatively suggest that it identifies a particular group, who have similarities and overlaps with others.
These are 9 suggested identifying characteristics of woke, none unique:
Disdain for difference, apart from specially designated difference A group think mindset A puritanlike withdrawal from the unwoke or worldly A lack of the negative capability to hold, treasure and value uncertainty Absolute assurance A single issue mindset, accompanied by a denial that this is so Moral absolutism Sanctions for non compliance An intense hatred of the liberal and enlightenment project.
Woke is hard to define ON PURPOSE. Seeing as how it's a political construct.
Definition means limitation. Point of "War on Woke" is to include ANYTHING that a voter does NOT like.
The Republicans are having a lot of success in their 'war on woke' in the Biden presidency , you wonder if a Trump presidency would actually set their cause back.
Republican THINK they are having a lot of success with Wack War on Woke.
Evidence for that is bit thinner. For example 2023 elections.
Virginia 2021 is cited as example of anti-woke winning for GOP. However, when the now-Gov campaigned as pro-education, plenty of voters THOUGHT he meant improving teaching. When what he REALLY meant, was weaponizing school restrooms against trans and homos.
One reason why GOP failed to win majority in VA legislature in 2023 . . . and the Gov went from future POTUS prospect to just another lame duck.
It’s worth noting what Sean Trende has said, in part because he was one of the court appointed experts told to redraw the maps for this election. Essentially, the old maps were drawn under the 2011 (I think) rules while this one was under the new map which was easier for the Democrats to hold.
His bottom line was that the message wasn’t as positive for the Democrats as was being made out but it was clear Youngkin’s message hadn’t produced the big swing he had been looking for to take the legislature.
If you can bear to look at them, I think one of the conservative websites did an analysis of the individual seats in 2023 v Biden in 2020 and found either no improvement or a swing against.
So? I know some moron Tory MP is tweeting about it, but this isn't news. Easter confectionery lines go into wholesalers in December, Christmas ones in August. Its an expandable consumption category, so if you get products in early you sell more. Some stuff (Creme Eggs, The Big Purple One) would sell all year round.
I have no idea about a Tory mp tweets and to be fair nearly 60 years ago my family and I owned a newsagents and grocers and we did display Easter eggs in the new year
I expect it may not surprise many
I have no problem with you responding to Jake Berry. I have a problem with Jake Berry trying to create another culture wars woke issue with something that happens *every single year*.
Have you got your culture war/woke issue mixed up? I don’t think people have ever said it was woke to have Easter Eggs in the shops too early, the complaint from that angle is that they’re not called Easter Eggs isn’t it?
Looking at that Jake Berry video, he’s just saying he surprised Easter Eggs are in shops when Christmas was only last week, hardly attacking anyone for being woke.
Moaning about Christmas stuff being on sale earlier and earlier is traditional.
There probably graffiti about that at Pompeii.
Yes, the political correctness gone mad/woke angle is lack of religious narrative on the eggs, not when they go on sale
We’ve crossed the line now where people defending ‘woke’ are caricatures of the Daily Express readers they think they’re mocking
Remember how builders talking about their feelings made them ”woke builders”? That wasn’t people defending woke, it was the surely-never-a-self-caricature Daily Mail.
That wasn’t, but the matter we are talking about now seems to be - why would Easter Eggs going on sale in January be woke? Surely the complaint , if there is one, is that it’s crass commercialisation
Agree, not a woke issue. But what I find strange is that a 'senior' MP thinks it's worth doing a video about Easter eggs at Tesco in January and tweeting it out. Mind you, what do I know, given that it's had 2.7M views.
The “this isn’t about woke” posts by various people are very naive. This is a culture war post by Berry aimed at winding up people who get wound up by modern life.
Easter Eggs on New Years Day / It’s not Traditional/ Not like the good old days / I blame the permissive society
Blimey, you had a long time to try and wriggle out of that, or fess up that you’d mixed up the ‘Not Easter’ Eggs ‘woke’ issue with this one.
Why would people who are regarded as ‘woke’ be championing the right of Supermarkets to sell Easter Eggs in early January? It doesn’t seem that it should matter either way. You just seem to be writing your own pet hates into it having got the wrong end of the stick, like someone else did with the EU lightbulbs the other day
The Mirror ran an article moaning about it in mid December & The BBC here quote the Royal Society for Public Health complaining about the practice of early egg sales… so it’s hardly a right wing, culture war, anti woke thing at all
It does get difficult when noone has the slightest idea what 'woke' means. Even people who go on about it all the time have completely different examples to offer. Electric cars are 'woke' to many folk but the Blessed Elon wouldn't agree. Frankly if someone on the right fringe of politics decides they don't like Easter eggs in January then that phenomenon automatically becomes woke. To them at least.
Meanwhile the rest of us, in the real world, haven't got a clue what they are blathering on about.
Things aren't woke; people are woke. The whole point is to disparage people with progressive ideas you disapprove of. Play the man, not the ball.
So? I know some moron Tory MP is tweeting about it, but this isn't news. Easter confectionery lines go into wholesalers in December, Christmas ones in August. Its an expandable consumption category, so if you get products in early you sell more. Some stuff (Creme Eggs, The Big Purple One) would sell all year round.
I have no idea about a Tory mp tweets and to be fair nearly 60 years ago my family and I owned a newsagents and grocers and we did display Easter eggs in the new year
I expect it may not surprise many
I have no problem with you responding to Jake Berry. I have a problem with Jake Berry trying to create another culture wars woke issue with something that happens *every single year*.
Have you got your culture war/woke issue mixed up? I don’t think people have ever said it was woke to have Easter Eggs in the shops too early, the complaint from that angle is that they’re not called Easter Eggs isn’t it?
Looking at that Jake Berry video, he’s just saying he surprised Easter Eggs are in shops when Christmas was only last week, hardly attacking anyone for being woke.
Moaning about Christmas stuff being on sale earlier and earlier is traditional.
There probably graffiti about that at Pompeii.
Yes, the political correctness gone mad/woke angle is lack of religious narrative on the eggs, not when they go on sale
We’ve crossed the line now where people defending ‘woke’ are caricatures of the Daily Express readers they think they’re mocking
Remember how builders talking about their feelings made them ”woke builders”? That wasn’t people defending woke, it was the surely-never-a-self-caricature Daily Mail.
That wasn’t, but the matter we are talking about now seems to be - why would Easter Eggs going on sale in January be woke? Surely the complaint , if there is one, is that it’s crass commercialisation
Agree, not a woke issue. But what I find strange is that a 'senior' MP thinks it's worth doing a video about Easter eggs at Tesco in January and tweeting it out. Mind you, what do I know, given that it's had 2.7M views.
The “this isn’t about woke” posts by various people are very naive. This is a culture war post by Berry aimed at winding up people who get wound up by modern life.
Easter Eggs on New Years Day / It’s not Traditional/ Not like the good old days / I blame the permissive society
Blimey, you had a long time to try and wriggle out of that, or fess up that you’d mixed up the ‘Not Easter’ Eggs ‘woke’ issue with this one.
Why would people who are regarded as ‘woke’ be championing the right of Supermarkets to sell Easter Eggs in early January? It doesn’t seem that it should matter either way. You just seem to be writing your own pet hates into it having got the wrong end of the stick, like someone else did with the EU lightbulbs the other day
The Mirror ran an article moaning about it in mid December & The BBC here quote the Royal Society for Public Health complaining about the practice of early egg sales… so it’s hardly a right wing, culture war, anti woke thing at all
It does get difficult when noone has the slightest idea what 'woke' means. Even people who go on about it all the time have completely different examples to offer. Electric cars are 'woke' to many folk but the Blessed Elon wouldn't agree. Frankly if someone on the right fringe of politics decides they don't like Easter eggs in January then that phenomenon automatically becomes woke. To them at least.
Meanwhile the rest of us, in the real world, haven't got a clue what they are blathering on about.
Woke can be a bit nebulous but in my head ‘changing something that has been long accepted in order to avoid offending someone else (who isn’t actually offended by said thing)’. For instance the use of Winterval rather than Christmas, so as not to offend non Christians.
Sometimes the changes are sensible yet still derided as woke. See Batter rather than Batsmen (mainly for womens cricket, but will surely bleed back into mens too).
I suspect that most people actually do have a sense for what woke means, and the idea that it cannot be easily defined is not really fair. Define pornography?
In Australia they’ve been calling batsmen ‘batters’ for ages, but they called fielders ‘fieldsmen’ at the same time
Makes sense to degender those words I think now I think
"Firemen" was generalised to "firefighters" as far back as (I think) the Noughties. See also "flight attendant" instead of "stewardess". I don't know if "actor" instead of "actress" is winning...
So? I know some moron Tory MP is tweeting about it, but this isn't news. Easter confectionery lines go into wholesalers in December, Christmas ones in August. Its an expandable consumption category, so if you get products in early you sell more. Some stuff (Creme Eggs, The Big Purple One) would sell all year round.
I have no idea about a Tory mp tweets and to be fair nearly 60 years ago my family and I owned a newsagents and grocers and we did display Easter eggs in the new year
I expect it may not surprise many
I have no problem with you responding to Jake Berry. I have a problem with Jake Berry trying to create another culture wars woke issue with something that happens *every single year*.
Have you got your culture war/woke issue mixed up? I don’t think people have ever said it was woke to have Easter Eggs in the shops too early, the complaint from that angle is that they’re not called Easter Eggs isn’t it?
Looking at that Jake Berry video, he’s just saying he surprised Easter Eggs are in shops when Christmas was only last week, hardly attacking anyone for being woke.
Moaning about Christmas stuff being on sale earlier and earlier is traditional.
There probably graffiti about that at Pompeii.
Yes, the political correctness gone mad/woke angle is lack of religious narrative on the eggs, not when they go on sale
We’ve crossed the line now where people defending ‘woke’ are caricatures of the Daily Express readers they think they’re mocking
Remember how builders talking about their feelings made them ”woke builders”? That wasn’t people defending woke, it was the surely-never-a-self-caricature Daily Mail.
That wasn’t, but the matter we are talking about now seems to be - why would Easter Eggs going on sale in January be woke? Surely the complaint , if there is one, is that it’s crass commercialisation
Agree, not a woke issue. But what I find strange is that a 'senior' MP thinks it's worth doing a video about Easter eggs at Tesco in January and tweeting it out. Mind you, what do I know, given that it's had 2.7M views.
The “this isn’t about woke” posts by various people are very naive. This is a culture war post by Berry aimed at winding up people who get wound up by modern life.
Easter Eggs on New Years Day / It’s not Traditional/ Not like the good old days / I blame the permissive society
Blimey, you had a long time to try and wriggle out of that, or fess up that you’d mixed up the ‘Not Easter’ Eggs ‘woke’ issue with this one.
Why would people who are regarded as ‘woke’ be championing the right of Supermarkets to sell Easter Eggs in early January? It doesn’t seem that it should matter either way. You just seem to be writing your own pet hates into it having got the wrong end of the stick, like someone else did with the EU lightbulbs the other day
The Mirror ran an article moaning about it in mid December & The BBC here quote the Royal Society for Public Health complaining about the practice of early egg sales… so it’s hardly a right wing, culture war, anti woke thing at all
It does get difficult when noone has the slightest idea what 'woke' means. Even people who go on about it all the time have completely different examples to offer. Electric cars are 'woke' to many folk but the Blessed Elon wouldn't agree. Frankly if someone on the right fringe of politics decides they don't like Easter eggs in January then that phenomenon automatically becomes woke. To them at least.
Meanwhile the rest of us, in the real world, haven't got a clue what they are blathering on about.
Woke can be a bit nebulous but in my head ‘changing something that has been long accepted in order to avoid offending someone else (who isn’t actually offended by said thing)’. For instance the use of Winterval rather than Christmas, so as not to offend non Christians.
Sometimes the changes are sensible yet still derided as woke. See Batter rather than Batsmen (mainly for womens cricket, but will surely bleed back into mens too).
I suspect that most people actually do have a sense for what woke means, and the idea that it cannot be easily defined is not really fair. Define pornography?
Woke is obviously hard to define, like 'centre right' or 'liberal'. It's abstract. I would tentatively suggest that it identifies a particular group, who have similarities and overlaps with others.
These are 9 suggested identifying characteristics of woke, none unique:
Disdain for difference, apart from specially designated difference A group think mindset A puritanlike withdrawal from the unwoke or worldly A lack of the negative capability to hold, treasure and value uncertainty Absolute assurance A single issue mindset, accompanied by a denial that this is so Moral absolutism Sanctions for non compliance An intense hatred of the liberal and enlightenment project.
Surely all of these are equally true of all the Wokefinder generals.
While you are cheering . . . the seamy underbelly of Big-Time Darts . . .
The US Sun - AIM AND SHAME Darts’ most jaw-dropping scandals as World Championship begins – including hotel sexting shock and infamous ‘fart-gate’ One married star was caught snogging a woman half his age in a hotel lobby
That is insane. How many times has that been done before?
Ted Hankey won the 2000 championship with triple 20, triple 20, bull. That was quite spectacular.
That’s great, although (personally) I think two bulls and then a double is somewhat more impressive just given the amount of ‘practice’ people have in going for triple 20 as opposed to the Bull.
There were several moments where Criss clearly thought Littler was taking the effing piss - cos he was.
Then he needed 182. And only just missed 180…
Hollywood requires that someone in Mi6 / the SAS / some shady military unit we know nothing of spots this chap and realises he is the only person in the country who might - just - be able to save us from a new Russian super-weapon / alien attack / killer bug that can only be defeated by pinpoint accurate throws of a sharp arrow shaped object on to a rapidly changing target. At first he resists, he’s enjoying the adulation of his darts success, but eventually and inevitably he heeds the call. The future of humankind rests on his aim.
So? I know some moron Tory MP is tweeting about it, but this isn't news. Easter confectionery lines go into wholesalers in December, Christmas ones in August. Its an expandable consumption category, so if you get products in early you sell more. Some stuff (Creme Eggs, The Big Purple One) would sell all year round.
I have no idea about a Tory mp tweets and to be fair nearly 60 years ago my family and I owned a newsagents and grocers and we did display Easter eggs in the new year
I expect it may not surprise many
I have no problem with you responding to Jake Berry. I have a problem with Jake Berry trying to create another culture wars woke issue with something that happens *every single year*.
Have you got your culture war/woke issue mixed up? I don’t think people have ever said it was woke to have Easter Eggs in the shops too early, the complaint from that angle is that they’re not called Easter Eggs isn’t it?
Looking at that Jake Berry video, he’s just saying he surprised Easter Eggs are in shops when Christmas was only last week, hardly attacking anyone for being woke.
Moaning about Christmas stuff being on sale earlier and earlier is traditional.
There probably graffiti about that at Pompeii.
Yes, the political correctness gone mad/woke angle is lack of religious narrative on the eggs, not when they go on sale
We’ve crossed the line now where people defending ‘woke’ are caricatures of the Daily Express readers they think they’re mocking
Remember how builders talking about their feelings made them ”woke builders”? That wasn’t people defending woke, it was the surely-never-a-self-caricature Daily Mail.
That wasn’t, but the matter we are talking about now seems to be - why would Easter Eggs going on sale in January be woke? Surely the complaint , if there is one, is that it’s crass commercialisation
Agree, not a woke issue. But what I find strange is that a 'senior' MP thinks it's worth doing a video about Easter eggs at Tesco in January and tweeting it out. Mind you, what do I know, given that it's had 2.7M views.
The “this isn’t about woke” posts by various people are very naive. This is a culture war post by Berry aimed at winding up people who get wound up by modern life.
Easter Eggs on New Years Day / It’s not Traditional/ Not like the good old days / I blame the permissive society
Blimey, you had a long time to try and wriggle out of that, or fess up that you’d mixed up the ‘Not Easter’ Eggs ‘woke’ issue with this one.
Why would people who are regarded as ‘woke’ be championing the right of Supermarkets to sell Easter Eggs in early January? It doesn’t seem that it should matter either way. You just seem to be writing your own pet hates into it having got the wrong end of the stick, like someone else did with the EU lightbulbs the other day
The Mirror ran an article moaning about it in mid December & The BBC here quote the Royal Society for Public Health complaining about the practice of early egg sales… so it’s hardly a right wing, culture war, anti woke thing at all
It does get difficult when noone has the slightest idea what 'woke' means. Even people who go on about it all the time have completely different examples to offer. Electric cars are 'woke' to many folk but the Blessed Elon wouldn't agree. Frankly if someone on the right fringe of politics decides they don't like Easter eggs in January then that phenomenon automatically becomes woke. To them at least.
Meanwhile the rest of us, in the real world, haven't got a clue what they are blathering on about.
Woke can be a bit nebulous but in my head ‘changing something that has been long accepted in order to avoid offending someone else (who isn’t actually offended by said thing)’. For instance the use of Winterval rather than Christmas, so as not to offend non Christians.
Sometimes the changes are sensible yet still derided as woke. See Batter rather than Batsmen (mainly for womens cricket, but will surely bleed back into mens too).
I suspect that most people actually do have a sense for what woke means, and the idea that it cannot be easily defined is not really fair. Define pornography?
Woke is obviously hard to define, like 'centre right' or 'liberal'. It's abstract. I would tentatively suggest that it identifies a particular group, who have similarities and overlaps with others.
These are 9 suggested identifying characteristics of woke, none unique:
Disdain for difference, apart from specially designated difference A group think mindset A puritanlike withdrawal from the unwoke or worldly A lack of the negative capability to hold, treasure and value uncertainty Absolute assurance A single issue mindset, accompanied by a denial that this is so Moral absolutism Sanctions for non compliance An intense hatred of the liberal and enlightenment project.
So that settles it then. Goalkeepers playing short to the centre back is definitely woke.
While you are cheering . . . the seamy underbelly of Big-Time Darts . . .
The US Sun - AIM AND SHAME Darts’ most jaw-dropping scandals as World Championship begins – including hotel sexting shock and infamous ‘fart-gate’ One married star was caught snogging a woman half his age in a hotel lobby
So? I know some moron Tory MP is tweeting about it, but this isn't news. Easter confectionery lines go into wholesalers in December, Christmas ones in August. Its an expandable consumption category, so if you get products in early you sell more. Some stuff (Creme Eggs, The Big Purple One) would sell all year round.
I have no idea about a Tory mp tweets and to be fair nearly 60 years ago my family and I owned a newsagents and grocers and we did display Easter eggs in the new year
I expect it may not surprise many
I have no problem with you responding to Jake Berry. I have a problem with Jake Berry trying to create another culture wars woke issue with something that happens *every single year*.
Have you got your culture war/woke issue mixed up? I don’t think people have ever said it was woke to have Easter Eggs in the shops too early, the complaint from that angle is that they’re not called Easter Eggs isn’t it?
Looking at that Jake Berry video, he’s just saying he surprised Easter Eggs are in shops when Christmas was only last week, hardly attacking anyone for being woke.
Moaning about Christmas stuff being on sale earlier and earlier is traditional.
There probably graffiti about that at Pompeii.
Yes, the political correctness gone mad/woke angle is lack of religious narrative on the eggs, not when they go on sale
We’ve crossed the line now where people defending ‘woke’ are caricatures of the Daily Express readers they think they’re mocking
Remember how builders talking about their feelings made them ”woke builders”? That wasn’t people defending woke, it was the surely-never-a-self-caricature Daily Mail.
That wasn’t, but the matter we are talking about now seems to be - why would Easter Eggs going on sale in January be woke? Surely the complaint , if there is one, is that it’s crass commercialisation
Agree, not a woke issue. But what I find strange is that a 'senior' MP thinks it's worth doing a video about Easter eggs at Tesco in January and tweeting it out. Mind you, what do I know, given that it's had 2.7M views.
The “this isn’t about woke” posts by various people are very naive. This is a culture war post by Berry aimed at winding up people who get wound up by modern life.
Easter Eggs on New Years Day / It’s not Traditional/ Not like the good old days / I blame the permissive society
Blimey, you had a long time to try and wriggle out of that, or fess up that you’d mixed up the ‘Not Easter’ Eggs ‘woke’ issue with this one.
Why would people who are regarded as ‘woke’ be championing the right of Supermarkets to sell Easter Eggs in early January? It doesn’t seem that it should matter either way. You just seem to be writing your own pet hates into it having got the wrong end of the stick, like someone else did with the EU lightbulbs the other day
The Mirror ran an article moaning about it in mid December & The BBC here quote the Royal Society for Public Health complaining about the practice of early egg sales… so it’s hardly a right wing, culture war, anti woke thing at all
It does get difficult when noone has the slightest idea what 'woke' means. Even people who go on about it all the time have completely different examples to offer. Electric cars are 'woke' to many folk but the Blessed Elon wouldn't agree. Frankly if someone on the right fringe of politics decides they don't like Easter eggs in January then that phenomenon automatically becomes woke. To them at least.
Meanwhile the rest of us, in the real world, haven't got a clue what they are blathering on about.
Woke can be a bit nebulous but in my head ‘changing something that has been long accepted in order to avoid offending someone else (who isn’t actually offended by said thing)’. For instance the use of Winterval rather than Christmas, so as not to offend non Christians.
Sometimes the changes are sensible yet still derided as woke. See Batter rather than Batsmen (mainly for womens cricket, but will surely bleed back into mens too).
I suspect that most people actually do have a sense for what woke means, and the idea that it cannot be easily defined is not really fair. Define pornography?
Woke is obviously hard to define, like 'centre right' or 'liberal'. It's abstract. I would tentatively suggest that it identifies a particular group, who have similarities and overlaps with others.
These are 9 suggested identifying characteristics of woke, none unique:
Disdain for difference, apart from specially designated difference A group think mindset A puritanlike withdrawal from the unwoke or worldly A lack of the negative capability to hold, treasure and value uncertainty Absolute assurance A single issue mindset, accompanied by a denial that this is so Moral absolutism Sanctions for non compliance An intense hatred of the liberal and enlightenment project.
Surely all of these are equally true of all the Wokefinder generals.
i agree with all these, but they can all be summarised by the single simple attribute of laziness in thinking.
Woke dodges all that tedious business of thinking seriously or in depth about anything. It's as simple as that.
So? I know some moron Tory MP is tweeting about it, but this isn't news. Easter confectionery lines go into wholesalers in December, Christmas ones in August. Its an expandable consumption category, so if you get products in early you sell more. Some stuff (Creme Eggs, The Big Purple One) would sell all year round.
I have no idea about a Tory mp tweets and to be fair nearly 60 years ago my family and I owned a newsagents and grocers and we did display Easter eggs in the new year
I expect it may not surprise many
I have no problem with you responding to Jake Berry. I have a problem with Jake Berry trying to create another culture wars woke issue with something that happens *every single year*.
Have you got your culture war/woke issue mixed up? I don’t think people have ever said it was woke to have Easter Eggs in the shops too early, the complaint from that angle is that they’re not called Easter Eggs isn’t it?
Looking at that Jake Berry video, he’s just saying he surprised Easter Eggs are in shops when Christmas was only last week, hardly attacking anyone for being woke.
Moaning about Christmas stuff being on sale earlier and earlier is traditional.
There probably graffiti about that at Pompeii.
Yes, the political correctness gone mad/woke angle is lack of religious narrative on the eggs, not when they go on sale
We’ve crossed the line now where people defending ‘woke’ are caricatures of the Daily Express readers they think they’re mocking
Remember how builders talking about their feelings made them ”woke builders”? That wasn’t people defending woke, it was the surely-never-a-self-caricature Daily Mail.
That wasn’t, but the matter we are talking about now seems to be - why would Easter Eggs going on sale in January be woke? Surely the complaint , if there is one, is that it’s crass commercialisation
Agree, not a woke issue. But what I find strange is that a 'senior' MP thinks it's worth doing a video about Easter eggs at Tesco in January and tweeting it out. Mind you, what do I know, given that it's had 2.7M views.
The “this isn’t about woke” posts by various people are very naive. This is a culture war post by Berry aimed at winding up people who get wound up by modern life.
Easter Eggs on New Years Day / It’s not Traditional/ Not like the good old days / I blame the permissive society
Blimey, you had a long time to try and wriggle out of that, or fess up that you’d mixed up the ‘Not Easter’ Eggs ‘woke’ issue with this one.
Why would people who are regarded as ‘woke’ be championing the right of Supermarkets to sell Easter Eggs in early January? It doesn’t seem that it should matter either way. You just seem to be writing your own pet hates into it having got the wrong end of the stick, like someone else did with the EU lightbulbs the other day
The Mirror ran an article moaning about it in mid December & The BBC here quote the Royal Society for Public Health complaining about the practice of early egg sales… so it’s hardly a right wing, culture war, anti woke thing at all
It does get difficult when noone has the slightest idea what 'woke' means. Even people who go on about it all the time have completely different examples to offer. Electric cars are 'woke' to many folk but the Blessed Elon wouldn't agree. Frankly if someone on the right fringe of politics decides they don't like Easter eggs in January then that phenomenon automatically becomes woke. To them at least.
Meanwhile the rest of us, in the real world, haven't got a clue what they are blathering on about.
Woke can be a bit nebulous but in my head ‘changing something that has been long accepted in order to avoid offending someone else (who isn’t actually offended by said thing)’. For instance the use of Winterval rather than Christmas, so as not to offend non Christians.
Sometimes the changes are sensible yet still derided as woke. See Batter rather than Batsmen (mainly for womens cricket, but will surely bleed back into mens too).
I suspect that most people actually do have a sense for what woke means, and the idea that it cannot be easily defined is not really fair. Define pornography?
In Australia they’ve been calling batsmen ‘batters’ for ages, but they called fielders ‘fieldsmen’ at the same time
Makes sense to degender those words I think now I think
"Firemen" was generalised to "firefighters" as far back as (I think) the Noughties. See also "flight attendant" instead of "stewardess". I don't know if "actor" instead of "actress" is winning...
An example of me getting annoyed with ‘woke’ is the change from ‘Fireman Sam’ to ‘Rescue Team’ in the theme tune!
So? I know some moron Tory MP is tweeting about it, but this isn't news. Easter confectionery lines go into wholesalers in December, Christmas ones in August. Its an expandable consumption category, so if you get products in early you sell more. Some stuff (Creme Eggs, The Big Purple One) would sell all year round.
I have no idea about a Tory mp tweets and to be fair nearly 60 years ago my family and I owned a newsagents and grocers and we did display Easter eggs in the new year
I expect it may not surprise many
I have no problem with you responding to Jake Berry. I have a problem with Jake Berry trying to create another culture wars woke issue with something that happens *every single year*.
Have you got your culture war/woke issue mixed up? I don’t think people have ever said it was woke to have Easter Eggs in the shops too early, the complaint from that angle is that they’re not called Easter Eggs isn’t it?
Looking at that Jake Berry video, he’s just saying he surprised Easter Eggs are in shops when Christmas was only last week, hardly attacking anyone for being woke.
Moaning about Christmas stuff being on sale earlier and earlier is traditional.
There probably graffiti about that at Pompeii.
Yes, the political correctness gone mad/woke angle is lack of religious narrative on the eggs, not when they go on sale
We’ve crossed the line now where people defending ‘woke’ are caricatures of the Daily Express readers they think they’re mocking
Remember how builders talking about their feelings made them ”woke builders”? That wasn’t people defending woke, it was the surely-never-a-self-caricature Daily Mail.
That wasn’t, but the matter we are talking about now seems to be - why would Easter Eggs going on sale in January be woke? Surely the complaint , if there is one, is that it’s crass commercialisation
Agree, not a woke issue. But what I find strange is that a 'senior' MP thinks it's worth doing a video about Easter eggs at Tesco in January and tweeting it out. Mind you, what do I know, given that it's had 2.7M views.
The “this isn’t about woke” posts by various people are very naive. This is a culture war post by Berry aimed at winding up people who get wound up by modern life.
Easter Eggs on New Years Day / It’s not Traditional/ Not like the good old days / I blame the permissive society
Blimey, you had a long time to try and wriggle out of that, or fess up that you’d mixed up the ‘Not Easter’ Eggs ‘woke’ issue with this one.
Why would people who are regarded as ‘woke’ be championing the right of Supermarkets to sell Easter Eggs in early January? It doesn’t seem that it should matter either way. You just seem to be writing your own pet hates into it having got the wrong end of the stick, like someone else did with the EU lightbulbs the other day
The Mirror ran an article moaning about it in mid December & The BBC here quote the Royal Society for Public Health complaining about the practice of early egg sales… so it’s hardly a right wing, culture war, anti woke thing at all
It does get difficult when noone has the slightest idea what 'woke' means. Even people who go on about it all the time have completely different examples to offer. Electric cars are 'woke' to many folk but the Blessed Elon wouldn't agree. Frankly if someone on the right fringe of politics decides they don't like Easter eggs in January then that phenomenon automatically becomes woke. To them at least.
Meanwhile the rest of us, in the real world, haven't got a clue what they are blathering on about.
Woke can be a bit nebulous but in my head ‘changing something that has been long accepted in order to avoid offending someone else (who isn’t actually offended by said thing)’. For instance the use of Winterval rather than Christmas, so as not to offend non Christians.
Sometimes the changes are sensible yet still derided as woke. See Batter rather than Batsmen (mainly for womens cricket, but will surely bleed back into mens too).
I suspect that most people actually do have a sense for what woke means, and the idea that it cannot be easily defined is not really fair. Define pornography?
In Australia they’ve been calling batsmen ‘batters’ for ages, but they called fielders ‘fieldsmen’ at the same time
Makes sense to degender those words I think now I think
"Firemen" was generalised to "firefighters" as far back as (I think) the Noughties. See also "flight attendant" instead of "stewardess". I don't know if "actor" instead of "actress" is winning...
Looks like the rain has finally stopped, which is good because about 75% of the roads round here are flooded to some extent.
This is the new normal.
Warm and very wet winters.
I think I'd ban the phrase 'the new normal'. It seems to function as an excuse for spineless politicians and greasy corporates to enforce unpleasant situations on the public with no prospect of abatement.
We've had a good fiddle with climate this year, banning those maritime fuels, the effect of which was to make temperatures (sea temperatures at any rate) rise significantly. So far I don't think that situation has been reversed or any attempt made to mitigate it, despite various private jet-fuelled junkets. 'Decarbonise' is the only show in town, despite it seeming to have all the impact on climate that housewives donating their pots and pans had on Spitfire production.
We need creative solutions to optimise the climate, that work quickly, and to be prepared to bug out quickly it they're found not to work. Net Zero is tangential at best in this regard.
We need geo-engineering solutions to suck carbon back out the atmosphere en-masse, is what we need - and pronto.
Yes… and that’s why lots of people are working on making these solutions a reality. What I don’t understand is why Luckyguy1983 keeps posting as if no-one is looking into this.
The reason large scale geo-engineering isn’t being carried out (yet) is because of simple - and understandable - liability issues.
Global warming is the archetype of joint and several liability. Every country, every company, every government shares some responsibility and everyone shares in the effects, albeit unevenly. You can’t - despite some efforts - pin the blame on one actor.
When you geoengineer you create a specific and immediate effect which while predictable at global level is unpredictable at regional level, but provable. So if a nation or bloc decides to geoengineer and that causes drought in region x, they’re going to get sued. Whereas reducing an existing contribution to change, like CO2, NO2 or CH4 is not introducing a new trigger for change, it’s mitigating an existing one.
As for cutting maritime sulphate emissions, this is what’s known as a termination shock. Still to be definitively proven, but looking likely as a culprit for the sudden jump in North Atlantic temperatures this year. They were hiding the true scale of global warming, by a bit. But those emissions are dirty stuff and are a pretty fixed input - they probably held back warming by around 0.1C, and regionally possibly up to 0.4C. You either go cold turkey now or later.
Geoengineering solutions will be put into place as a last resort if everything else fails.
This is an utterly indefensible post. When people are being asked effectively to accept a precipitous fall in their living standards and outrageous infringements on their freedoms, you can wave away a huge change in temperature, entirely attributable to human regulatory meddling by the same fuckwits lecturing us about 'the real price of energy' and 'the new normal' and suggest that any solutions to this will be applied 'as a last resort is everything (for which read the impoverishment of the West) else fails'.
A more cynical person than myself might suspect that policy makers and their corporate sponsors are quite delighted with the temperature increase their meddling has caused - it has created even more lovely alarm around the climate after all.
Your attitude is I’m afraid indefensible. You are seemingly perfectly at ease with the idea human emissions can and do have major effects on the climate, as you’ve jumped on the impact of sulphate emissions with great gusto, yet remain completely unbothered by - indeed enthusiastically supportive of - continuing the mass experiment of burning through our fossil fuels until the world burns.
150 years ago you’d have been arguing that regulating mercury dumping into the Mersey was an outrageous infringement on people’s livelihoods.
Irrelevant twaddle. You insist that the UK must grind to an economical standstill in order to repair the damage caused by 1% of global manmade carbon emissions, which themselves comprise 2% of the whole. Yet you wave away a momumental regulatory cock up that has caused significant *actual* warming as 'going cold Turkey'.
People have gone to quite a dark psychological place when they care less about actual warming than they do about enforcing the privations they claim are about the warming on people. I hope they get the help and support they clearly need.
The woke debate is more evidence of the culture wars being one lot deriding the other lot’s nutters, and concluding all the other lot are therefore nutters. Everyone’s at it.
The Republicans are having a lot of success in their 'war on woke' in the Biden presidency , you wonder if a Trump presidency would actually set their cause back.
Republican THINK they are having a lot of success with Wack War on Woke.
Evidence for that is bit thinner. For example 2023 elections.
Virginia 2021 is cited as example of anti-woke winning for GOP. However, when the now-Gov campaigned as pro-education, plenty of voters THOUGHT he meant improving teaching. When what he REALLY meant, was weaponizing school restrooms against trans and homos.
One reason why GOP failed to win majority in VA legislature in 2023 . . . and the Gov went from future POTUS prospect to just another lame duck.
It’s worth noting what Sean Trende has said, in part because he was one of the court appointed experts told to redraw the maps for this election. Essentially, the old maps were drawn under the 2011 (I think) rules while this one was under the new map which was easier for the Democrats to hold.
His bottom line was that the message wasn’t as positive for the Democrats as was being made out but it was clear Youngkin’s message hadn’t produced the big swing he had been looking for to take the legislature.
If you can bear to look at them, I think one of the conservative websites did an analysis of the individual seats in 2023 v Biden in 2020 and found either no improvement or a swing against.
You (or rather your source) makes several good points.
Which underline the folly of VA Gov. Glenn Youngkin in raising expectations the way he & his minions did.
ALMOST as stupid as the Democrats who engineered nomination that clapped-out Clinton, former Gov Terry McAuliffe, to run against him in 2021.
It'll be the end of darts as we know it. Eventually all the players will be so good the outcome will be determined by whoever goes first, like draughts. It may be necessary to make the board smaller, or further away, or introduce a random element like weather.
It'll be the end of darts as we know it. Eventually all the players will be so good the outcome will be determined by whoever goes first, like draughts. It may be necessary to make the board smaller, or further away, or introduce a random element like weather.
So? I know some moron Tory MP is tweeting about it, but this isn't news. Easter confectionery lines go into wholesalers in December, Christmas ones in August. Its an expandable consumption category, so if you get products in early you sell more. Some stuff (Creme Eggs, The Big Purple One) would sell all year round.
I have no idea about a Tory mp tweets and to be fair nearly 60 years ago my family and I owned a newsagents and grocers and we did display Easter eggs in the new year
I expect it may not surprise many
I have no problem with you responding to Jake Berry. I have a problem with Jake Berry trying to create another culture wars woke issue with something that happens *every single year*.
Have you got your culture war/woke issue mixed up? I don’t think people have ever said it was woke to have Easter Eggs in the shops too early, the complaint from that angle is that they’re not called Easter Eggs isn’t it?
Looking at that Jake Berry video, he’s just saying he surprised Easter Eggs are in shops when Christmas was only last week, hardly attacking anyone for being woke.
Moaning about Christmas stuff being on sale earlier and earlier is traditional.
There probably graffiti about that at Pompeii.
Yes, the political correctness gone mad/woke angle is lack of religious narrative on the eggs, not when they go on sale
We’ve crossed the line now where people defending ‘woke’ are caricatures of the Daily Express readers they think they’re mocking
Remember how builders talking about their feelings made them ”woke builders”? That wasn’t people defending woke, it was the surely-never-a-self-caricature Daily Mail.
That wasn’t, but the matter we are talking about now seems to be - why would Easter Eggs going on sale in January be woke? Surely the complaint , if there is one, is that it’s crass commercialisation
Agree, not a woke issue. But what I find strange is that a 'senior' MP thinks it's worth doing a video about Easter eggs at Tesco in January and tweeting it out. Mind you, what do I know, given that it's had 2.7M views.
The “this isn’t about woke” posts by various people are very naive. This is a culture war post by Berry aimed at winding up people who get wound up by modern life.
Easter Eggs on New Years Day / It’s not Traditional/ Not like the good old days / I blame the permissive society
Blimey, you had a long time to try and wriggle out of that, or fess up that you’d mixed up the ‘Not Easter’ Eggs ‘woke’ issue with this one.
Why would people who are regarded as ‘woke’ be championing the right of Supermarkets to sell Easter Eggs in early January? It doesn’t seem that it should matter either way. You just seem to be writing your own pet hates into it having got the wrong end of the stick, like someone else did with the EU lightbulbs the other day
The Mirror ran an article moaning about it in mid December & The BBC here quote the Royal Society for Public Health complaining about the practice of early egg sales… so it’s hardly a right wing, culture war, anti woke thing at all
It does get difficult when noone has the slightest idea what 'woke' means. Even people who go on about it all the time have completely different examples to offer. Electric cars are 'woke' to many folk but the Blessed Elon wouldn't agree. Frankly if someone on the right fringe of politics decides they don't like Easter eggs in January then that phenomenon automatically becomes woke. To them at least.
Meanwhile the rest of us, in the real world, haven't got a clue what they are blathering on about.
Woke can be a bit nebulous but in my head ‘changing something that has been long accepted in order to avoid offending someone else (who isn’t actually offended by said thing)’. For instance the use of Winterval rather than Christmas, so as not to offend non Christians.
Sometimes the changes are sensible yet still derided as woke. See Batter rather than Batsmen (mainly for womens cricket, but will surely bleed back into mens too).
I suspect that most people actually do have a sense for what woke means, and the idea that it cannot be easily defined is not really fair. Define pornography?
Woke is obviously hard to define, like 'centre right' or 'liberal'. It's abstract. I would tentatively suggest that it identifies a particular group, who have similarities and overlaps with others.
These are 9 suggested identifying characteristics of woke, none unique:
Disdain for difference, apart from specially designated difference A group think mindset A puritanlike withdrawal from the unwoke or worldly A lack of the negative capability to hold, treasure and value uncertainty Absolute assurance A single issue mindset, accompanied by a denial that this is so Moral absolutism Sanctions for non compliance An intense hatred of the liberal and enlightenment project.
So that settles it then. Goalkeepers playing short to the centre back is definitely woke.
As if they didn't have to create a special rule to prevent back passes in the olden days, banning the goal keeper from picking up the ball, and leading to the rise of the ball playing sweeper-keeper.
Very much the style of play at Leicester now. Mads Hermansen was a great signing. Still makes me nervous to see defenders passing between themselves and the goalie to invite pressure and to suck the opposition out of position.
Looks like the rain has finally stopped, which is good because about 75% of the roads round here are flooded to some extent.
This is the new normal.
Warm and very wet winters.
I think I'd ban the phrase 'the new normal'. It seems to function as an excuse for spineless politicians and greasy corporates to enforce unpleasant situations on the public with no prospect of abatement.
We've had a good fiddle with climate this year, banning those maritime fuels, the effect of which was to make temperatures (sea temperatures at any rate) rise significantly. So far I don't think that situation has been reversed or any attempt made to mitigate it, despite various private jet-fuelled junkets. 'Decarbonise' is the only show in town, despite it seeming to have all the impact on climate that housewives donating their pots and pans had on Spitfire production.
We need creative solutions to optimise the climate, that work quickly, and to be prepared to bug out quickly it they're found not to work. Net Zero is tangential at best in this regard.
We need geo-engineering solutions to suck carbon back out the atmosphere en-masse, is what we need - and pronto.
Yes… and that’s why lots of people are working on making these solutions a reality. What I don’t understand is why Luckyguy1983 keeps posting as if no-one is looking into this.
The reason large scale geo-engineering isn’t being carried out (yet) is because of simple - and understandable - liability issues.
Global warming is the archetype of joint and several liability. Every country, every company, every government shares some responsibility and everyone shares in the effects, albeit unevenly. You can’t - despite some efforts - pin the blame on one actor.
When you geoengineer you create a specific and immediate effect which while predictable at global level is unpredictable at regional level, but provable. So if a nation or bloc decides to geoengineer and that causes drought in region x, they’re going to get sued. Whereas reducing an existing contribution to change, like CO2, NO2 or CH4 is not introducing a new trigger for change, it’s mitigating an existing one.
As for cutting maritime sulphate emissions, this is what’s known as a termination shock. Still to be definitively proven, but looking likely as a culprit for the sudden jump in North Atlantic temperatures this year. They were hiding the true scale of global warming, by a bit. But those emissions are dirty stuff and are a pretty fixed input - they probably held back warming by around 0.1C, and regionally possibly up to 0.4C. You either go cold turkey now or later.
Geoengineering solutions will be put into place as a last resort if everything else fails.
This is an utterly indefensible post. When people are being asked effectively to accept a precipitous fall in their living standards and outrageous infringements on their freedoms, you can wave away a huge change in temperature, entirely attributable to human regulatory meddling by the same fuckwits lecturing us about 'the real price of energy' and 'the new normal' and suggest that any solutions to this will be applied 'as a last resort is everything (for which read the impoverishment of the West) else fails'.
A more cynical person than myself might suspect that policy makers and their corporate sponsors are quite delighted with the temperature increase their meddling has caused - it has created even more lovely alarm around the climate after all.
Your attitude is I’m afraid indefensible. You are seemingly perfectly at ease with the idea human emissions can and do have major effects on the climate, as you’ve jumped on the impact of sulphate emissions with great gusto, yet remain completely unbothered by - indeed enthusiastically supportive of - continuing the mass experiment of burning through our fossil fuels until the world burns.
150 years ago you’d have been arguing that regulating mercury dumping into the Mersey was an outrageous infringement on people’s livelihoods.
Irrelevant twaddle. You insist that the UK must grind to an economical standstill in order to repair the damage caused by 1% of global manmade carbon emissions, which themselves comprise 2% of the whole. Yet you wave away a momumental regulatory cock up that has caused significant *actual* warming as 'going cold Turkey'.
People have gone to quite a dark psychological place when they care less about actual warming than they do about enforcing the privations they claim are about the warming on people. I hope they get the help and support they clearly need.
“You insist that the UK must grind to an economical standstill”.
Give it a rest. You don’t have a clue what you’re talking about.
Take a Google at shipping emissions impacts on human mortality sometime, when you’re taking a break from tilting at windmills. “Yet you wave it away” - yes, you do.
It'll be the end of darts as we know it. Eventually all the players will be so good the outcome will be determined by whoever goes first, like draughts. It may be necessary to make the board smaller, or further away, or introduce a random element like weather.
So? I know some moron Tory MP is tweeting about it, but this isn't news. Easter confectionery lines go into wholesalers in December, Christmas ones in August. Its an expandable consumption category, so if you get products in early you sell more. Some stuff (Creme Eggs, The Big Purple One) would sell all year round.
I have no idea about a Tory mp tweets and to be fair nearly 60 years ago my family and I owned a newsagents and grocers and we did display Easter eggs in the new year
I expect it may not surprise many
I have no problem with you responding to Jake Berry. I have a problem with Jake Berry trying to create another culture wars woke issue with something that happens *every single year*.
Have you got your culture war/woke issue mixed up? I don’t think people have ever said it was woke to have Easter Eggs in the shops too early, the complaint from that angle is that they’re not called Easter Eggs isn’t it?
Looking at that Jake Berry video, he’s just saying he surprised Easter Eggs are in shops when Christmas was only last week, hardly attacking anyone for being woke.
Moaning about Christmas stuff being on sale earlier and earlier is traditional.
There probably graffiti about that at Pompeii.
Yes, the political correctness gone mad/woke angle is lack of religious narrative on the eggs, not when they go on sale
We’ve crossed the line now where people defending ‘woke’ are caricatures of the Daily Express readers they think they’re mocking
Remember how builders talking about their feelings made them ”woke builders”? That wasn’t people defending woke, it was the surely-never-a-self-caricature Daily Mail.
That wasn’t, but the matter we are talking about now seems to be - why would Easter Eggs going on sale in January be woke? Surely the complaint , if there is one, is that it’s crass commercialisation
Agree, not a woke issue. But what I find strange is that a 'senior' MP thinks it's worth doing a video about Easter eggs at Tesco in January and tweeting it out. Mind you, what do I know, given that it's had 2.7M views.
The “this isn’t about woke” posts by various people are very naive. This is a culture war post by Berry aimed at winding up people who get wound up by modern life.
Easter Eggs on New Years Day / It’s not Traditional/ Not like the good old days / I blame the permissive society
Blimey, you had a long time to try and wriggle out of that, or fess up that you’d mixed up the ‘Not Easter’ Eggs ‘woke’ issue with this one.
Why would people who are regarded as ‘woke’ be championing the right of Supermarkets to sell Easter Eggs in early January? It doesn’t seem that it should matter either way. You just seem to be writing your own pet hates into it having got the wrong end of the stick, like someone else did with the EU lightbulbs the other day
The Mirror ran an article moaning about it in mid December & The BBC here quote the Royal Society for Public Health complaining about the practice of early egg sales… so it’s hardly a right wing, culture war, anti woke thing at all
It does get difficult when noone has the slightest idea what 'woke' means. Even people who go on about it all the time have completely different examples to offer. Electric cars are 'woke' to many folk but the Blessed Elon wouldn't agree. Frankly if someone on the right fringe of politics decides they don't like Easter eggs in January then that phenomenon automatically becomes woke. To them at least.
Meanwhile the rest of us, in the real world, haven't got a clue what they are blathering on about.
Woke can be a bit nebulous but in my head ‘changing something that has been long accepted in order to avoid offending someone else (who isn’t actually offended by said thing)’. For instance the use of Winterval rather than Christmas, so as not to offend non Christians.
Sometimes the changes are sensible yet still derided as woke. See Batter rather than Batsmen (mainly for womens cricket, but will surely bleed back into mens too).
I suspect that most people actually do have a sense for what woke means, and the idea that it cannot be easily defined is not really fair. Define pornography?
In Australia they’ve been calling batsmen ‘batters’ for ages, but they called fielders ‘fieldsmen’ at the same time
Makes sense to degender those words I think now I think
"Firemen" was generalised to "firefighters" as far back as (I think) the Noughties. See also "flight attendant" instead of "stewardess". I don't know if "actor" instead of "actress" is winning...
So? I know some moron Tory MP is tweeting about it, but this isn't news. Easter confectionery lines go into wholesalers in December, Christmas ones in August. Its an expandable consumption category, so if you get products in early you sell more. Some stuff (Creme Eggs, The Big Purple One) would sell all year round.
I have no idea about a Tory mp tweets and to be fair nearly 60 years ago my family and I owned a newsagents and grocers and we did display Easter eggs in the new year
I expect it may not surprise many
I have no problem with you responding to Jake Berry. I have a problem with Jake Berry trying to create another culture wars woke issue with something that happens *every single year*.
Have you got your culture war/woke issue mixed up? I don’t think people have ever said it was woke to have Easter Eggs in the shops too early, the complaint from that angle is that they’re not called Easter Eggs isn’t it?
Looking at that Jake Berry video, he’s just saying he surprised Easter Eggs are in shops when Christmas was only last week, hardly attacking anyone for being woke.
Moaning about Christmas stuff being on sale earlier and earlier is traditional.
There probably graffiti about that at Pompeii.
Yes, the political correctness gone mad/woke angle is lack of religious narrative on the eggs, not when they go on sale
We’ve crossed the line now where people defending ‘woke’ are caricatures of the Daily Express readers they think they’re mocking
Remember how builders talking about their feelings made them ”woke builders”? That wasn’t people defending woke, it was the surely-never-a-self-caricature Daily Mail.
That wasn’t, but the matter we are talking about now seems to be - why would Easter Eggs going on sale in January be woke? Surely the complaint , if there is one, is that it’s crass commercialisation
Agree, not a woke issue. But what I find strange is that a 'senior' MP thinks it's worth doing a video about Easter eggs at Tesco in January and tweeting it out. Mind you, what do I know, given that it's had 2.7M views.
The “this isn’t about woke” posts by various people are very naive. This is a culture war post by Berry aimed at winding up people who get wound up by modern life.
Easter Eggs on New Years Day / It’s not Traditional/ Not like the good old days / I blame the permissive society
Blimey, you had a long time to try and wriggle out of that, or fess up that you’d mixed up the ‘Not Easter’ Eggs ‘woke’ issue with this one.
Why would people who are regarded as ‘woke’ be championing the right of Supermarkets to sell Easter Eggs in early January? It doesn’t seem that it should matter either way. You just seem to be writing your own pet hates into it having got the wrong end of the stick, like someone else did with the EU lightbulbs the other day
The Mirror ran an article moaning about it in mid December & The BBC here quote the Royal Society for Public Health complaining about the practice of early egg sales… so it’s hardly a right wing, culture war, anti woke thing at all
It does get difficult when noone has the slightest idea what 'woke' means. Even people who go on about it all the time have completely different examples to offer. Electric cars are 'woke' to many folk but the Blessed Elon wouldn't agree. Frankly if someone on the right fringe of politics decides they don't like Easter eggs in January then that phenomenon automatically becomes woke. To them at least.
Meanwhile the rest of us, in the real world, haven't got a clue what they are blathering on about.
Woke can be a bit nebulous but in my head ‘changing something that has been long accepted in order to avoid offending someone else (who isn’t actually offended by said thing)’. For instance the use of Winterval rather than Christmas, so as not to offend non Christians.
Sometimes the changes are sensible yet still derided as woke. See Batter rather than Batsmen (mainly for womens cricket, but will surely bleed back into mens too).
I suspect that most people actually do have a sense for what woke means, and the idea that it cannot be easily defined is not really fair. Define pornography?
In Australia they’ve been calling batsmen ‘batters’ for ages, but they called fielders ‘fieldsmen’ at the same time
Makes sense to degender those words I think now I think
"Firemen" was generalised to "firefighters" as far back as (I think) the Noughties. See also "flight attendant" instead of "stewardess". I don't know if "actor" instead of "actress" is winning...
When I was a misspending youth, the common term for the person who delivered the US Mail was "mailman".
With "postman" also used but much less. And no such thing as "postie".
Today, "letter-carrier" is pretty much standard, at least outside retirement centers.
Note that "mail-person" is either a joke, or what even yours truly considers wokish.
So? I know some moron Tory MP is tweeting about it, but this isn't news. Easter confectionery lines go into wholesalers in December, Christmas ones in August. Its an expandable consumption category, so if you get products in early you sell more. Some stuff (Creme Eggs, The Big Purple One) would sell all year round.
I have no idea about a Tory mp tweets and to be fair nearly 60 years ago my family and I owned a newsagents and grocers and we did display Easter eggs in the new year
I expect it may not surprise many
I have no problem with you responding to Jake Berry. I have a problem with Jake Berry trying to create another culture wars woke issue with something that happens *every single year*.
Have you got your culture war/woke issue mixed up? I don’t think people have ever said it was woke to have Easter Eggs in the shops too early, the complaint from that angle is that they’re not called Easter Eggs isn’t it?
Looking at that Jake Berry video, he’s just saying he surprised Easter Eggs are in shops when Christmas was only last week, hardly attacking anyone for being woke.
Moaning about Christmas stuff being on sale earlier and earlier is traditional.
There probably graffiti about that at Pompeii.
Yes, the political correctness gone mad/woke angle is lack of religious narrative on the eggs, not when they go on sale
We’ve crossed the line now where people defending ‘woke’ are caricatures of the Daily Express readers they think they’re mocking
Remember how builders talking about their feelings made them ”woke builders”? That wasn’t people defending woke, it was the surely-never-a-self-caricature Daily Mail.
That wasn’t, but the matter we are talking about now seems to be - why would Easter Eggs going on sale in January be woke? Surely the complaint , if there is one, is that it’s crass commercialisation
Agree, not a woke issue. But what I find strange is that a 'senior' MP thinks it's worth doing a video about Easter eggs at Tesco in January and tweeting it out. Mind you, what do I know, given that it's had 2.7M views.
The “this isn’t about woke” posts by various people are very naive. This is a culture war post by Berry aimed at winding up people who get wound up by modern life.
Easter Eggs on New Years Day / It’s not Traditional/ Not like the good old days / I blame the permissive society
Blimey, you had a long time to try and wriggle out of that, or fess up that you’d mixed up the ‘Not Easter’ Eggs ‘woke’ issue with this one.
Why would people who are regarded as ‘woke’ be championing the right of Supermarkets to sell Easter Eggs in early January? It doesn’t seem that it should matter either way. You just seem to be writing your own pet hates into it having got the wrong end of the stick, like someone else did with the EU lightbulbs the other day
The Mirror ran an article moaning about it in mid December & The BBC here quote the Royal Society for Public Health complaining about the practice of early egg sales… so it’s hardly a right wing, culture war, anti woke thing at all
It does get difficult when noone has the slightest idea what 'woke' means. Even people who go on about it all the time have completely different examples to offer. Electric cars are 'woke' to many folk but the Blessed Elon wouldn't agree. Frankly if someone on the right fringe of politics decides they don't like Easter eggs in January then that phenomenon automatically becomes woke. To them at least.
Meanwhile the rest of us, in the real world, haven't got a clue what they are blathering on about.
Woke can be a bit nebulous but in my head ‘changing something that has been long accepted in order to avoid offending someone else (who isn’t actually offended by said thing)’. For instance the use of Winterval rather than Christmas, so as not to offend non Christians.
Sometimes the changes are sensible yet still derided as woke. See Batter rather than Batsmen (mainly for womens cricket, but will surely bleed back into mens too).
I suspect that most people actually do have a sense for what woke means, and the idea that it cannot be easily defined is not really fair. Define pornography?
Woke is obviously hard to define, like 'centre right' or 'liberal'. It's abstract. I would tentatively suggest that it identifies a particular group, who have similarities and overlaps with others.
These are 9 suggested identifying characteristics of woke, none unique:
Disdain for difference, apart from specially designated difference A group think mindset A puritanlike withdrawal from the unwoke or worldly A lack of the negative capability to hold, treasure and value uncertainty Absolute assurance A single issue mindset, accompanied by a denial that this is so Moral absolutism Sanctions for non compliance An intense hatred of the liberal and enlightenment project.
Shit.
Most of the posters on here are woke. Especially that @Leon
So? I know some moron Tory MP is tweeting about it, but this isn't news. Easter confectionery lines go into wholesalers in December, Christmas ones in August. Its an expandable consumption category, so if you get products in early you sell more. Some stuff (Creme Eggs, The Big Purple One) would sell all year round.
I have no idea about a Tory mp tweets and to be fair nearly 60 years ago my family and I owned a newsagents and grocers and we did display Easter eggs in the new year
I expect it may not surprise many
I have no problem with you responding to Jake Berry. I have a problem with Jake Berry trying to create another culture wars woke issue with something that happens *every single year*.
Have you got your culture war/woke issue mixed up? I don’t think people have ever said it was woke to have Easter Eggs in the shops too early, the complaint from that angle is that they’re not called Easter Eggs isn’t it?
Looking at that Jake Berry video, he’s just saying he surprised Easter Eggs are in shops when Christmas was only last week, hardly attacking anyone for being woke.
Moaning about Christmas stuff being on sale earlier and earlier is traditional.
There probably graffiti about that at Pompeii.
Yes, the political correctness gone mad/woke angle is lack of religious narrative on the eggs, not when they go on sale
We’ve crossed the line now where people defending ‘woke’ are caricatures of the Daily Express readers they think they’re mocking
Remember how builders talking about their feelings made them ”woke builders”? That wasn’t people defending woke, it was the surely-never-a-self-caricature Daily Mail.
That wasn’t, but the matter we are talking about now seems to be - why would Easter Eggs going on sale in January be woke? Surely the complaint , if there is one, is that it’s crass commercialisation
Agree, not a woke issue. But what I find strange is that a 'senior' MP thinks it's worth doing a video about Easter eggs at Tesco in January and tweeting it out. Mind you, what do I know, given that it's had 2.7M views.
The “this isn’t about woke” posts by various people are very naive. This is a culture war post by Berry aimed at winding up people who get wound up by modern life.
Easter Eggs on New Years Day / It’s not Traditional/ Not like the good old days / I blame the permissive society
Blimey, you had a long time to try and wriggle out of that, or fess up that you’d mixed up the ‘Not Easter’ Eggs ‘woke’ issue with this one.
Why would people who are regarded as ‘woke’ be championing the right of Supermarkets to sell Easter Eggs in early January? It doesn’t seem that it should matter either way. You just seem to be writing your own pet hates into it having got the wrong end of the stick, like someone else did with the EU lightbulbs the other day
The Mirror ran an article moaning about it in mid December & The BBC here quote the Royal Society for Public Health complaining about the practice of early egg sales… so it’s hardly a right wing, culture war, anti woke thing at all
It does get difficult when noone has the slightest idea what 'woke' means. Even people who go on about it all the time have completely different examples to offer. Electric cars are 'woke' to many folk but the Blessed Elon wouldn't agree. Frankly if someone on the right fringe of politics decides they don't like Easter eggs in January then that phenomenon automatically becomes woke. To them at least.
Meanwhile the rest of us, in the real world, haven't got a clue what they are blathering on about.
Woke can be a bit nebulous but in my head ‘changing something that has been long accepted in order to avoid offending someone else (who isn’t actually offended by said thing)’. For instance the use of Winterval rather than Christmas, so as not to offend non Christians.
Sometimes the changes are sensible yet still derided as woke. See Batter rather than Batsmen (mainly for womens cricket, but will surely bleed back into mens too).
I suspect that most people actually do have a sense for what woke means, and the idea that it cannot be easily defined is not really fair. Define pornography?
Woke is obviously hard to define, like 'centre right' or 'liberal'. It's abstract. I would tentatively suggest that it identifies a particular group, who have similarities and overlaps with others.
These are 9 suggested identifying characteristics of woke, none unique:
Disdain for difference, apart from specially designated difference A group think mindset A puritanlike withdrawal from the unwoke or worldly A lack of the negative capability to hold, treasure and value uncertainty Absolute assurance A single issue mindset, accompanied by a denial that this is so Moral absolutism Sanctions for non compliance An intense hatred of the liberal and enlightenment project.
Surely all of these are equally true of all the Wokefinder generals.
i agree with all these, but they can all be summarised by the single simple attribute of laziness in thinking.
Woke dodges all that tedious business of thinking seriously or in depth about anything. It's as simple as that.
It'll be the end of darts as we know it. Eventually all the players will be so good the outcome will be determined by whoever goes first, like draughts. It may be necessary to make the board smaller, or further away, or introduce a random element like weather.
It'll be the end of darts as we know it. Eventually all the players will be so good the outcome will be determined by whoever goes first, like draughts. It may be necessary to make the board smaller, or further away, or introduce a random element like weather.
It'll be the end of darts as we know it. Eventually all the players will be so good the outcome will be determined by whoever goes first, like draughts. It may be necessary to make the board smaller, or further away, or introduce a random element like weather.
A rotating board would add to the fun.
Believe they had one of those, in the pub where I last tried my hand at the game.
It'll be the end of darts as we know it. Eventually all the players will be so good the outcome will be determined by whoever goes first, like draughts. It may be necessary to make the board smaller, or further away, or introduce a random element like weather.
A rotating board would add to the fun.
Believe they had one of those, in the pub where I last tried my hand at the game.
So? I know some moron Tory MP is tweeting about it, but this isn't news. Easter confectionery lines go into wholesalers in December, Christmas ones in August. Its an expandable consumption category, so if you get products in early you sell more. Some stuff (Creme Eggs, The Big Purple One) would sell all year round.
I have no idea about a Tory mp tweets and to be fair nearly 60 years ago my family and I owned a newsagents and grocers and we did display Easter eggs in the new year
I expect it may not surprise many
I have no problem with you responding to Jake Berry. I have a problem with Jake Berry trying to create another culture wars woke issue with something that happens *every single year*.
Have you got your culture war/woke issue mixed up? I don’t think people have ever said it was woke to have Easter Eggs in the shops too early, the complaint from that angle is that they’re not called Easter Eggs isn’t it?
Looking at that Jake Berry video, he’s just saying he surprised Easter Eggs are in shops when Christmas was only last week, hardly attacking anyone for being woke.
Moaning about Christmas stuff being on sale earlier and earlier is traditional.
There probably graffiti about that at Pompeii.
Yes, the political correctness gone mad/woke angle is lack of religious narrative on the eggs, not when they go on sale
We’ve crossed the line now where people defending ‘woke’ are caricatures of the Daily Express readers they think they’re mocking
Remember how builders talking about their feelings made them ”woke builders”? That wasn’t people defending woke, it was the surely-never-a-self-caricature Daily Mail.
That wasn’t, but the matter we are talking about now seems to be - why would Easter Eggs going on sale in January be woke? Surely the complaint , if there is one, is that it’s crass commercialisation
Agree, not a woke issue. But what I find strange is that a 'senior' MP thinks it's worth doing a video about Easter eggs at Tesco in January and tweeting it out. Mind you, what do I know, given that it's had 2.7M views.
The “this isn’t about woke” posts by various people are very naive. This is a culture war post by Berry aimed at winding up people who get wound up by modern life.
Easter Eggs on New Years Day / It’s not Traditional/ Not like the good old days / I blame the permissive society
Blimey, you had a long time to try and wriggle out of that, or fess up that you’d mixed up the ‘Not Easter’ Eggs ‘woke’ issue with this one.
Why would people who are regarded as ‘woke’ be championing the right of Supermarkets to sell Easter Eggs in early January? It doesn’t seem that it should matter either way. You just seem to be writing your own pet hates into it having got the wrong end of the stick, like someone else did with the EU lightbulbs the other day
The Mirror ran an article moaning about it in mid December & The BBC here quote the Royal Society for Public Health complaining about the practice of early egg sales… so it’s hardly a right wing, culture war, anti woke thing at all
It does get difficult when noone has the slightest idea what 'woke' means. Even people who go on about it all the time have completely different examples to offer. Electric cars are 'woke' to many folk but the Blessed Elon wouldn't agree. Frankly if someone on the right fringe of politics decides they don't like Easter eggs in January then that phenomenon automatically becomes woke. To them at least.
Meanwhile the rest of us, in the real world, haven't got a clue what they are blathering on about.
Woke can be a bit nebulous but in my head ‘changing something that has been long accepted in order to avoid offending someone else (who isn’t actually offended by said thing)’. For instance the use of Winterval rather than Christmas, so as not to offend non Christians.
Sometimes the changes are sensible yet still derided as woke. See Batter rather than Batsmen (mainly for womens cricket, but will surely bleed back into mens too).
I suspect that most people actually do have a sense for what woke means, and the idea that it cannot be easily defined is not really fair. Define pornography?
Woke is obviously hard to define, like 'centre right' or 'liberal'. It's abstract. I would tentatively suggest that it identifies a particular group, who have similarities and overlaps with others.
These are 9 suggested identifying characteristics of woke, none unique:
Disdain for difference, apart from specially designated difference A group think mindset A puritanlike withdrawal from the unwoke or worldly A lack of the negative capability to hold, treasure and value uncertainty Absolute assurance A single issue mindset, accompanied by a denial that this is so Moral absolutism Sanctions for non compliance An intense hatred of the liberal and enlightenment project.
Surely all of these are equally true of all the Wokefinder generals.
i agree with all these, but they can all be summarised by the single simple attribute of laziness in thinking.
Woke dodges all that tedious business of thinking seriously or in depth about anything. It's as simple as that.
It'll be the end of darts as we know it. Eventually all the players will be so good the outcome will be determined by whoever goes first, like draughts. It may be necessary to make the board smaller, or further away, or introduce a random element like weather.
A rotating board would add to the fun.
Believe they had one of those, in the pub where I last tried my hand at the game.
Sure that it wasn't your head spinning?
Nonsense! I had my feet planted firmly on the ceiling. Or was it the wall?
Looks like the rain has finally stopped, which is good because about 75% of the roads round here are flooded to some extent.
This is the new normal.
Warm and very wet winters.
I think I'd ban the phrase 'the new normal'. It seems to function as an excuse for spineless politicians and greasy corporates to enforce unpleasant situations on the public with no prospect of abatement.
We've had a good fiddle with climate this year, banning those maritime fuels, the effect of which was to make temperatures (sea temperatures at any rate) rise significantly. So far I don't think that situation has been reversed or any attempt made to mitigate it, despite various private jet-fuelled junkets. 'Decarbonise' is the only show in town, despite it seeming to have all the impact on climate that housewives donating their pots and pans had on Spitfire production.
We need creative solutions to optimise the climate, that work quickly, and to be prepared to bug out quickly it they're found not to work. Net Zero is tangential at best in this regard.
We need geo-engineering solutions to suck carbon back out the atmosphere en-masse, is what we need - and pronto.
Yes… and that’s why lots of people are working on making these solutions a reality. What I don’t understand is why Luckyguy1983 keeps posting as if no-one is looking into this.
The reason large scale geo-engineering isn’t being carried out (yet) is because of simple - and understandable - liability issues.
Global warming is the archetype of joint and several liability. Every country, every company, every government shares some responsibility and everyone shares in the effects, albeit unevenly. You can’t - despite some efforts - pin the blame on one actor.
When you geoengineer you create a specific and immediate effect which while predictable at global level is unpredictable at regional level, but provable. So if a nation or bloc decides to geoengineer and that causes drought in region x, they’re going to get sued. Whereas reducing an existing contribution to change, like CO2, NO2 or CH4 is not introducing a new trigger for change, it’s mitigating an existing one.
As for cutting maritime sulphate emissions, this is what’s known as a termination shock. Still to be definitively proven, but looking likely as a culprit for the sudden jump in North Atlantic temperatures this year. They were hiding the true scale of global warming, by a bit. But those emissions are dirty stuff and are a pretty fixed input - they probably held back warming by around 0.1C, and regionally possibly up to 0.4C. You either go cold turkey now or later.
Geoengineering solutions will be put into place as a last resort if everything else fails.
This is an utterly indefensible post. When people are being asked effectively to accept a precipitous fall in their living standards and outrageous infringements on their freedoms, you can wave away a huge change in temperature, entirely attributable to human regulatory meddling by the same fuckwits lecturing us about 'the real price of energy' and 'the new normal' and suggest that any solutions to this will be applied 'as a last resort is everything (for which read the impoverishment of the West) else fails'.
A more cynical person than myself might suspect that policy makers and their corporate sponsors are quite delighted with the temperature increase their meddling has caused - it has created even more lovely alarm around the climate after all.
Your attitude is I’m afraid indefensible. You are seemingly perfectly at ease with the idea human emissions can and do have major effects on the climate, as you’ve jumped on the impact of sulphate emissions with great gusto, yet remain completely unbothered by - indeed enthusiastically supportive of - continuing the mass experiment of burning through our fossil fuels until the world burns.
150 years ago you’d have been arguing that regulating mercury dumping into the Mersey was an outrageous infringement on people’s livelihoods.
Irrelevant twaddle. You insist that the UK must grind to an economical standstill in order to repair the damage caused by 1% of global manmade carbon emissions, which themselves comprise 2% of the whole. Yet you wave away a momumental regulatory cock up that has caused significant *actual* warming as 'going cold Turkey'.
People have gone to quite a dark psychological place when they care less about actual warming than they do about enforcing the privations they claim are about the warming on people. I hope they get the help and support they clearly need.
“You insist that the UK must grind to an economical standstill”.
Give it a rest. You don’t have a clue what you’re talking about.
Take a Google at shipping emissions impacts on human mortality sometime, when you’re taking a break from tilting at windmills. “Yet you wave it away” - yes, you do.
Oh I see. All about peoples' lungs now is it? I thought we were in the business of averting a climate catastrophe. A weekly briefing on which global crisis we're doing and which we're ignoring would be most helpful.
And for the record, I haven't suggested we put sulphur back into the fuel - spraying seawater is clean and seems just as effective. I assume there are very good reasons why this isn't being tried already - certainly better ones than this discussion has thrown up so far.
She was very much the hot topic on conversation on this board back in 2015. I don't know if the history posts are still available, but not a lot of good was said about her.
So? I know some moron Tory MP is tweeting about it, but this isn't news. Easter confectionery lines go into wholesalers in December, Christmas ones in August. Its an expandable consumption category, so if you get products in early you sell more. Some stuff (Creme Eggs, The Big Purple One) would sell all year round.
I have no idea about a Tory mp tweets and to be fair nearly 60 years ago my family and I owned a newsagents and grocers and we did display Easter eggs in the new year
I expect it may not surprise many
I have no problem with you responding to Jake Berry. I have a problem with Jake Berry trying to create another culture wars woke issue with something that happens *every single year*.
Have you got your culture war/woke issue mixed up? I don’t think people have ever said it was woke to have Easter Eggs in the shops too early, the complaint from that angle is that they’re not called Easter Eggs isn’t it?
Looking at that Jake Berry video, he’s just saying he surprised Easter Eggs are in shops when Christmas was only last week, hardly attacking anyone for being woke.
Moaning about Christmas stuff being on sale earlier and earlier is traditional.
There probably graffiti about that at Pompeii.
Yes, the political correctness gone mad/woke angle is lack of religious narrative on the eggs, not when they go on sale
We’ve crossed the line now where people defending ‘woke’ are caricatures of the Daily Express readers they think they’re mocking
Remember how builders talking about their feelings made them ”woke builders”? That wasn’t people defending woke, it was the surely-never-a-self-caricature Daily Mail.
That wasn’t, but the matter we are talking about now seems to be - why would Easter Eggs going on sale in January be woke? Surely the complaint , if there is one, is that it’s crass commercialisation
Agree, not a woke issue. But what I find strange is that a 'senior' MP thinks it's worth doing a video about Easter eggs at Tesco in January and tweeting it out. Mind you, what do I know, given that it's had 2.7M views.
The “this isn’t about woke” posts by various people are very naive. This is a culture war post by Berry aimed at winding up people who get wound up by modern life.
Easter Eggs on New Years Day / It’s not Traditional/ Not like the good old days / I blame the permissive society
Blimey, you had a long time to try and wriggle out of that, or fess up that you’d mixed up the ‘Not Easter’ Eggs ‘woke’ issue with this one.
Why would people who are regarded as ‘woke’ be championing the right of Supermarkets to sell Easter Eggs in early January? It doesn’t seem that it should matter either way. You just seem to be writing your own pet hates into it having got the wrong end of the stick, like someone else did with the EU lightbulbs the other day
The Mirror ran an article moaning about it in mid December & The BBC here quote the Royal Society for Public Health complaining about the practice of early egg sales… so it’s hardly a right wing, culture war, anti woke thing at all
It does get difficult when noone has the slightest idea what 'woke' means. Even people who go on about it all the time have completely different examples to offer. Electric cars are 'woke' to many folk but the Blessed Elon wouldn't agree. Frankly if someone on the right fringe of politics decides they don't like Easter eggs in January then that phenomenon automatically becomes woke. To them at least.
Meanwhile the rest of us, in the real world, haven't got a clue what they are blathering on about.
Woke can be a bit nebulous but in my head ‘changing something that has been long accepted in order to avoid offending someone else (who isn’t actually offended by said thing)’. For instance the use of Winterval rather than Christmas, so as not to offend non Christians.
Sometimes the changes are sensible yet still derided as woke. See Batter rather than Batsmen (mainly for womens cricket, but will surely bleed back into mens too).
I suspect that most people actually do have a sense for what woke means, and the idea that it cannot be easily defined is not really fair. Define pornography?
Woke is obviously hard to define, like 'centre right' or 'liberal'. It's abstract. I would tentatively suggest that it identifies a particular group, who have similarities and overlaps with others.
These are 9 suggested identifying characteristics of woke, none unique:
Disdain for difference, apart from specially designated difference A group think mindset A puritanlike withdrawal from the unwoke or worldly A lack of the negative capability to hold, treasure and value uncertainty Absolute assurance A single issue mindset, accompanied by a denial that this is so Moral absolutism Sanctions for non compliance An intense hatred of the liberal and enlightenment project.
Utterly baffling, and now I'm totally confused. I'd always guessed that my attitudes to stuff would make me pretty 'woke' in the eyes of most on here. But, hand on heart, I don't meet any one of the 9 criteria set out there. Least of all the last one, which strikes me as more characteristic of the fiercely anti-woke.
It'll be the end of darts as we know it. Eventually all the players will be so good the outcome will be determined by whoever goes first, like draughts. It may be necessary to make the board smaller, or further away, or introduce a random element like weather.
Seattle Times - How much it could cost to see UW Huskies at the national championship?
- according to the paper, for next week's NCAA Division 1 college football national championship game in Houston = $900.
"If money is no object, seats in the lower bowl of the stadium, right around the 50-yard line, are about $3,500. In other words, a mortgage payment on a typical Seattle-area home with 20% down or one 1997 Honda Accord with 140,000 miles on it.
The most expensive seats in the house are in Lower Level Section 106, Row A at around $12,500 per seat."
These prices are BEFORE the scalpers scoop them up. And of course do NOT include airfare, lodging and other extras.
So? I know some moron Tory MP is tweeting about it, but this isn't news. Easter confectionery lines go into wholesalers in December, Christmas ones in August. Its an expandable consumption category, so if you get products in early you sell more. Some stuff (Creme Eggs, The Big Purple One) would sell all year round.
I have no idea about a Tory mp tweets and to be fair nearly 60 years ago my family and I owned a newsagents and grocers and we did display Easter eggs in the new year
I expect it may not surprise many
I have no problem with you responding to Jake Berry. I have a problem with Jake Berry trying to create another culture wars woke issue with something that happens *every single year*.
Have you got your culture war/woke issue mixed up? I don’t think people have ever said it was woke to have Easter Eggs in the shops too early, the complaint from that angle is that they’re not called Easter Eggs isn’t it?
Looking at that Jake Berry video, he’s just saying he surprised Easter Eggs are in shops when Christmas was only last week, hardly attacking anyone for being woke.
Moaning about Christmas stuff being on sale earlier and earlier is traditional.
There probably graffiti about that at Pompeii.
Yes, the political correctness gone mad/woke angle is lack of religious narrative on the eggs, not when they go on sale
We’ve crossed the line now where people defending ‘woke’ are caricatures of the Daily Express readers they think they’re mocking
Remember how builders talking about their feelings made them ”woke builders”? That wasn’t people defending woke, it was the surely-never-a-self-caricature Daily Mail.
That wasn’t, but the matter we are talking about now seems to be - why would Easter Eggs going on sale in January be woke? Surely the complaint , if there is one, is that it’s crass commercialisation
Agree, not a woke issue. But what I find strange is that a 'senior' MP thinks it's worth doing a video about Easter eggs at Tesco in January and tweeting it out. Mind you, what do I know, given that it's had 2.7M views.
The “this isn’t about woke” posts by various people are very naive. This is a culture war post by Berry aimed at winding up people who get wound up by modern life.
Easter Eggs on New Years Day / It’s not Traditional/ Not like the good old days / I blame the permissive society
Blimey, you had a long time to try and wriggle out of that, or fess up that you’d mixed up the ‘Not Easter’ Eggs ‘woke’ issue with this one.
Why would people who are regarded as ‘woke’ be championing the right of Supermarkets to sell Easter Eggs in early January? It doesn’t seem that it should matter either way. You just seem to be writing your own pet hates into it having got the wrong end of the stick, like someone else did with the EU lightbulbs the other day
The Mirror ran an article moaning about it in mid December & The BBC here quote the Royal Society for Public Health complaining about the practice of early egg sales… so it’s hardly a right wing, culture war, anti woke thing at all
It does get difficult when noone has the slightest idea what 'woke' means. Even people who go on about it all the time have completely different examples to offer. Electric cars are 'woke' to many folk but the Blessed Elon wouldn't agree. Frankly if someone on the right fringe of politics decides they don't like Easter eggs in January then that phenomenon automatically becomes woke. To them at least.
Meanwhile the rest of us, in the real world, haven't got a clue what they are blathering on about.
Woke can be a bit nebulous but in my head ‘changing something that has been long accepted in order to avoid offending someone else (who isn’t actually offended by said thing)’. For instance the use of Winterval rather than Christmas, so as not to offend non Christians.
Sometimes the changes are sensible yet still derided as woke. See Batter rather than Batsmen (mainly for womens cricket, but will surely bleed back into mens too).
I suspect that most people actually do have a sense for what woke means, and the idea that it cannot be easily defined is not really fair. Define pornography?
Woke is obviously hard to define, like 'centre right' or 'liberal'. It's abstract. I would tentatively suggest that it identifies a particular group, who have similarities and overlaps with others.
These are 9 suggested identifying characteristics of woke, none unique:
Disdain for difference, apart from specially designated difference A group think mindset A puritanlike withdrawal from the unwoke or worldly A lack of the negative capability to hold, treasure and value uncertainty Absolute assurance A single issue mindset, accompanied by a denial that this is so Moral absolutism Sanctions for non compliance An intense hatred of the liberal and enlightenment project.
Utterly baffling, and now I'm totally confused. I'd always guessed that my attitudes to stuff would make me pretty 'woke' in the eyes of most on here. But, hand on heart, I don't meet any one of the 9 criteria set out there. Least of all the last one, which strikes me as more characteristic of the fiercely anti-woke.
The tenets of critical race theory have been very widely set down. I suppose that similar documents exist for trans issues and other 'isms'. That would seem to make woke pretty easy to define to me. The innovation of 'woke' seems to me to be the 'silence is violence' thing - it's not enough to treat everyone equally and as you would wish to be treated; just existing in your 'privileged' state without showing sufficient penitence is an affront. That's why as far as I'm concerned it can do one.
It'll be the end of darts as we know it. Eventually all the players will be so good the outcome will be determined by whoever goes first, like draughts. It may be necessary to make the board smaller, or further away, or introduce a random element like weather.
It'll be the end of darts as we know it. Eventually all the players will be so good the outcome will be determined by whoever goes first, like draughts. It may be necessary to make the board smaller, or further away, or introduce a random element like weather.
A rotating board would add to the fun.
Boomerang darts?
A giant rotating dartboard with a brave volunteer strapped to it. And the darts swapped for throwing knives ?
So? I know some moron Tory MP is tweeting about it, but this isn't news. Easter confectionery lines go into wholesalers in December, Christmas ones in August. Its an expandable consumption category, so if you get products in early you sell more. Some stuff (Creme Eggs, The Big Purple One) would sell all year round.
I have no idea about a Tory mp tweets and to be fair nearly 60 years ago my family and I owned a newsagents and grocers and we did display Easter eggs in the new year
I expect it may not surprise many
I have no problem with you responding to Jake Berry. I have a problem with Jake Berry trying to create another culture wars woke issue with something that happens *every single year*.
Have you got your culture war/woke issue mixed up? I don’t think people have ever said it was woke to have Easter Eggs in the shops too early, the complaint from that angle is that they’re not called Easter Eggs isn’t it?
Looking at that Jake Berry video, he’s just saying he surprised Easter Eggs are in shops when Christmas was only last week, hardly attacking anyone for being woke.
Moaning about Christmas stuff being on sale earlier and earlier is traditional.
There probably graffiti about that at Pompeii.
Yes, the political correctness gone mad/woke angle is lack of religious narrative on the eggs, not when they go on sale
We’ve crossed the line now where people defending ‘woke’ are caricatures of the Daily Express readers they think they’re mocking
Remember how builders talking about their feelings made them ”woke builders”? That wasn’t people defending woke, it was the surely-never-a-self-caricature Daily Mail.
That wasn’t, but the matter we are talking about now seems to be - why would Easter Eggs going on sale in January be woke? Surely the complaint , if there is one, is that it’s crass commercialisation
Agree, not a woke issue. But what I find strange is that a 'senior' MP thinks it's worth doing a video about Easter eggs at Tesco in January and tweeting it out. Mind you, what do I know, given that it's had 2.7M views.
The “this isn’t about woke” posts by various people are very naive. This is a culture war post by Berry aimed at winding up people who get wound up by modern life.
Easter Eggs on New Years Day / It’s not Traditional/ Not like the good old days / I blame the permissive society
Blimey, you had a long time to try and wriggle out of that, or fess up that you’d mixed up the ‘Not Easter’ Eggs ‘woke’ issue with this one.
Why would people who are regarded as ‘woke’ be championing the right of Supermarkets to sell Easter Eggs in early January? It doesn’t seem that it should matter either way. You just seem to be writing your own pet hates into it having got the wrong end of the stick, like someone else did with the EU lightbulbs the other day
The Mirror ran an article moaning about it in mid December & The BBC here quote the Royal Society for Public Health complaining about the practice of early egg sales… so it’s hardly a right wing, culture war, anti woke thing at all
It does get difficult when noone has the slightest idea what 'woke' means. Even people who go on about it all the time have completely different examples to offer. Electric cars are 'woke' to many folk but the Blessed Elon wouldn't agree. Frankly if someone on the right fringe of politics decides they don't like Easter eggs in January then that phenomenon automatically becomes woke. To them at least.
Meanwhile the rest of us, in the real world, haven't got a clue what they are blathering on about.
Woke can be a bit nebulous but in my head ‘changing something that has been long accepted in order to avoid offending someone else (who isn’t actually offended by said thing)’. For instance the use of Winterval rather than Christmas, so as not to offend non Christians.
Sometimes the changes are sensible yet still derided as woke. See Batter rather than Batsmen (mainly for womens cricket, but will surely bleed back into mens too).
I suspect that most people actually do have a sense for what woke means, and the idea that it cannot be easily defined is not really fair. Define pornography?
Woke is obviously hard to define, like 'centre right' or 'liberal'. It's abstract. I would tentatively suggest that it identifies a particular group, who have similarities and overlaps with others.
These are 9 suggested identifying characteristics of woke, none unique:
Disdain for difference, apart from specially designated difference A group think mindset A puritanlike withdrawal from the unwoke or worldly A lack of the negative capability to hold, treasure and value uncertainty Absolute assurance A single issue mindset, accompanied by a denial that this is so Moral absolutism Sanctions for non compliance An intense hatred of the liberal and enlightenment project.
Utterly baffling, and now I'm totally confused. I'd always guessed that my attitudes to stuff would make me pretty 'woke' in the eyes of most on here. But, hand on heart, I don't meet any one of the 9 criteria set out there. Least of all the last one, which strikes me as more characteristic of the fiercely anti-woke.
"These are 9 suggested identifying characteristics.."
Suggested by whom ? It's just an incoherent list of stuff someone doesn't like.
It'll be the end of darts as we know it. Eventually all the players will be so good the outcome will be determined by whoever goes first, like draughts. It may be necessary to make the board smaller, or further away, or introduce a random element like weather.
A rotating board would add to the fun.
Boomerang darts?
A giant rotating dartboard with a brave volunteer strapped to it. And the darts swapped for throwing knives ?
And Roger Moore saving Berlin from nuclear annihilation.
Looks like the rain has finally stopped, which is good because about 75% of the roads round here are flooded to some extent.
This is the new normal.
Warm and very wet winters.
I think I'd ban the phrase 'the new normal'. It seems to function as an excuse for spineless politicians and greasy corporates to enforce unpleasant situations on the public with no prospect of abatement.
We've had a good fiddle with climate this year, banning those maritime fuels, the effect of which was to make temperatures (sea temperatures at any rate) rise significantly. So far I don't think that situation has been reversed or any attempt made to mitigate it, despite various private jet-fuelled junkets. 'Decarbonise' is the only show in town, despite it seeming to have all the impact on climate that housewives donating their pots and pans had on Spitfire production.
We need creative solutions to optimise the climate, that work quickly, and to be prepared to bug out quickly it they're found not to work. Net Zero is tangential at best in this regard.
We need geo-engineering solutions to suck carbon back out the atmosphere en-masse, is what we need - and pronto.
Yes… and that’s why lots of people are working on making these solutions a reality. What I don’t understand is why Luckyguy1983 keeps posting as if no-one is looking into this.
The reason large scale geo-engineering isn’t being carried out (yet) is because of simple - and understandable - liability issues.
Global warming is the archetype of joint and several liability. Every country, every company, every government shares some responsibility and everyone shares in the effects, albeit unevenly. You can’t - despite some efforts - pin the blame on one actor.
When you geoengineer you create a specific and immediate effect which while predictable at global level is unpredictable at regional level, but provable. So if a nation or bloc decides to geoengineer and that causes drought in region x, they’re going to get sued. Whereas reducing an existing contribution to change, like CO2, NO2 or CH4 is not introducing a new trigger for change, it’s mitigating an existing one.
As for cutting maritime sulphate emissions, this is what’s known as a termination shock. Still to be definitively proven, but looking likely as a culprit for the sudden jump in North Atlantic temperatures this year. They were hiding the true scale of global warming, by a bit. But those emissions are dirty stuff and are a pretty fixed input - they probably held back warming by around 0.1C, and regionally possibly up to 0.4C. You either go cold turkey now or later.
Geoengineering solutions will be put into place as a last resort if everything else fails.
This is an utterly indefensible post. When people are being asked effectively to accept a precipitous fall in their living standards and outrageous infringements on their freedoms, you can wave away a huge change in temperature, entirely attributable to human regulatory meddling by the same fuckwits lecturing us about 'the real price of energy' and 'the new normal' and suggest that any solutions to this will be applied 'as a last resort is everything (for which read the impoverishment of the West) else fails'.
A more cynical person than myself might suspect that policy makers and their corporate sponsors are quite delighted with the temperature increase their meddling has caused - it has created even more lovely alarm around the climate after all.
Your attitude is I’m afraid indefensible. You are seemingly perfectly at ease with the idea human emissions can and do have major effects on the climate, as you’ve jumped on the impact of sulphate emissions with great gusto, yet remain completely unbothered by - indeed enthusiastically supportive of - continuing the mass experiment of burning through our fossil fuels until the world burns.
150 years ago you’d have been arguing that regulating mercury dumping into the Mersey was an outrageous infringement on people’s livelihoods.
Irrelevant twaddle. You insist that the UK must grind to an economical standstill in order to repair the damage caused by 1% of global manmade carbon emissions, which themselves comprise 2% of the whole. Yet you wave away a momumental regulatory cock up that has caused significant *actual* warming as 'going cold Turkey'.
People have gone to quite a dark psychological place when they care less about actual warming than they do about enforcing the privations they claim are about the warming on people. I hope they get the help and support they clearly need.
“You insist that the UK must grind to an economical standstill”.
Give it a rest. You don’t have a clue what you’re talking about.
Take a Google at shipping emissions impacts on human mortality sometime, when you’re taking a break from tilting at windmills. “Yet you wave it away” - yes, you do.
Oh I see. All about peoples' lungs now is it? I thought we were in the business of averting a climate catastrophe. A weekly briefing on which global crisis we're doing and which we're ignoring would be most helpful.
And for the record, I haven't suggested we put sulphur back into the fuel - spraying seawater is clean and seems just as effective. I assume there are very good reasons why this isn't being tried already - certainly better ones than this discussion has thrown up so far.
You gave a pretty good impression of wanting to put the sulphur back into the fuel. “A monumental regulatory cockup”? Which of course included reducing NOx emissions too, which contribute to global warming.
There are good reasons large scale geoengineering isn’t being implemented at scale yet and they are exactly as described here. It is very difficult to predict regional impacts of solar attenuation, particularly anything that affects albedo, but one thing you can be sure of is it will cause provable effects like drought in some locations. I interviewed someone a few years ago whose doctorate was on uses of foams on the Atlantic sea surface to boost albedo. Very promising, fascinating stuff, but miles off getting any kind of international approval because of those sorts of downstream impacts.
So either someone like the US says FU and does it anyway, or nothing happens because you are unlikely ever to get consensus on measures like these in the UN and no private company will do it for obvious liability reasons.
It'll be the end of darts as we know it. Eventually all the players will be so good the outcome will be determined by whoever goes first, like draughts. It may be necessary to make the board smaller, or further away, or introduce a random element like weather.
A rotating board would add to the fun.
Boomerang darts?
A giant rotating dartboard with a brave volunteer strapped to it. And the darts swapped for throwing knives ?
For "brave volunteer" substitute "prospective Conservative Party leadership candidates"?
It'll be the end of darts as we know it. Eventually all the players will be so good the outcome will be determined by whoever goes first, like draughts. It may be necessary to make the board smaller, or further away, or introduce a random element like weather.
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Although ten tidal lagoon power stations in the UK would reduce our contribution to carbon by ten million tonnes a year. Just sayin'....
Evidence for that is bit thinner. For example 2023 elections.
Virginia 2021 is cited as example of anti-woke winning for GOP. However, when the now-Gov campaigned as pro-education, plenty of voters THOUGHT he meant improving teaching. When what he REALLY meant, was weaponizing school restrooms against trans and homos.
One reason why GOP failed to win majority in VA legislature in 2023 . . . and the Gov went from future POTUS prospect to just another lame duck.
Sometimes the changes are sensible yet still derided as woke. See Batter rather than Batsmen (mainly for womens cricket, but will surely bleed back into mens too).
I suspect that most people actually do have a sense for what woke means, and the idea that it cannot be easily defined is not really fair. Define pornography?
Trying to imagine what a woke Easter would be. Surely the ‘woke’ want to diminish Christian festivals rather than get them going early? It’s not woke to put up Christmas decorations early is it?
As I said before, the old moan was Easter Eggs not mentioning Easter. Southam Observer used to go on & on about people complaining about it. Maybe trying to make it a multifaith occasion would upset traditionalists/make ‘woke’people happy
Makes sense to degender those words I think now I think
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/live/2024/jan/02/luke-littler-v-rob-cross-pdc-world-darts-championship-semi-finals-live
Global warming is the archetype of joint and several liability. Every country, every company, every government shares some responsibility and everyone shares in the effects, albeit unevenly. You can’t - despite some efforts - pin the blame on one actor.
When you geoengineer you create a specific and immediate effect which while predictable at global level is unpredictable at regional level, but provable. So if a nation or bloc decides to geoengineer and that causes drought in region x, they’re going to get sued. Whereas reducing an existing contribution to change, like CO2, NO2 or CH4 is not introducing a new trigger for change, it’s mitigating an existing one.
As for cutting maritime sulphate emissions, this is what’s known as a termination shock. Still to be definitively proven, but looking likely as a culprit for the sudden jump in North Atlantic temperatures this year. They were hiding the true scale of global warming, by a bit. But those emissions are dirty stuff and are a pretty fixed input - they probably held back warming by around 0.1C, and regionally possibly up to 0.4C. You either go cold turkey now or later.
Geoengineering solutions will be put into
place as a last resort if everything else fails.
Everything else is in English cricket called 'er' (fielder, bowler, keeper, loser) so the change (which has been officially declared by the MCC) makes sense.
I'm having difficulty remembering it though.
These are 9 suggested identifying characteristics of woke, none unique:
Disdain for difference, apart from specially designated difference
A group think mindset
A puritanlike withdrawal from the unwoke or worldly
A lack of the negative capability to hold, treasure and value uncertainty
Absolute assurance
A single issue mindset, accompanied by a denial that this is so
Moral absolutism
Sanctions for non compliance
An intense hatred of the liberal and enlightenment project.
"Littler has just held throw by taking 132 with two bulls and double 16. There’s nothing left to say."
A more cynical person than myself might suspect that policy makers and their corporate sponsors are quite delighted with the temperature increase their meddling has caused - it has created even more lovely alarm around the climate after all.
Easter Parade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeI3JIJCWTg
Zero mention of the Resurrection, let alone Easter eggs.
Instead, extended commercial for bonnets & spats . . . sponsored by Macy's . . .
Finals it is.
150 years ago you’d have been arguing that regulating mercury dumping into the Mersey was an outrageous infringement on people’s livelihoods.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/live/2024/jan/02/luke-littler-v-rob-cross-pdc-world-darts-championship-semi-finals-live
The TV version waters things down quite a bit. The reality is very much worse.
Then he needed 182. And only just missed 180…
Definition means limitation. Point of "War on Woke" is to include ANYTHING that a voter does NOT like.
"The Israel-Palestine conflict: a brief, simple history", Vox, YouTube 2016(!), 10 mins, see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRYZjOuUnlU
His bottom line was that the message wasn’t as positive for the Democrats as was being made out but it was clear Youngkin’s message hadn’t produced the big swing he had been looking for to take the legislature.
If you can bear to look at them, I think one of the conservative websites did an analysis of the individual seats in 2023 v Biden in 2020 and found either no improvement or a swing against.
First time I did it, I remember I had a couple of cream crackers with Primula cheese in my other hand!
As for why he is a chunky chappy, why do you think? He already spends a fair bit of time on the road.
Too much hotel food is why.
The US Sun - AIM AND SHAME Darts’ most jaw-dropping scandals as World Championship begins – including hotel sexting shock and infamous ‘fart-gate’
One married star was caught snogging a woman half his age in a hotel lobby
https://www.the-sun.com/sport/9877501/darts-biggest-scandals-world-championships/
Goalkeepers playing short to the centre back is definitely woke.
Woke dodges all that tedious business of thinking seriously or in depth about anything. It's as simple as that.
People have gone to quite a dark psychological place when they care less about actual warming than they do about enforcing the privations they claim are about the warming on people. I hope they get the help and support they clearly need.
Which underline the folly of VA Gov. Glenn Youngkin in raising expectations the way he & his minions did.
ALMOST as stupid as the Democrats who engineered nomination that clapped-out Clinton, former Gov Terry McAuliffe, to run against him in 2021.
On his debut.
Extraordinary.
Very much the style of play at Leicester now. Mads Hermansen was a great signing. Still makes me nervous to see defenders passing between themselves and the goalie to invite pressure and to suck the opposition out of position.
Give it a rest. You don’t have a clue what you’re talking about.
Take a Google at shipping emissions impacts on human mortality sometime, when you’re taking a break from tilting at windmills. “Yet you wave it away” - yes, you do.
With "postman" also used but much less. And no such thing as "postie".
Today, "letter-carrier" is pretty much standard, at least outside retirement centers.
Note that "mail-person" is either a joke, or what even yours truly considers wokish.
Most of the posters on here are woke. Especially that @Leon
It's just a way of shutting down discussion.
https://x.com/JohnRentoul/status/1741799120140996845?s=20
(90 in the first set IIRC).
Making the final total all the more remarkable.
And for the record, I haven't suggested we put sulphur back into the fuel - spraying seawater is clean and seems just as effective. I assume there are very good reasons why this isn't being tried already - certainly better ones than this discussion has thrown up so far.
I don't know if the history posts are still available, but not a lot of good was said about her.
Ahaaa
- according to the paper, for next week's NCAA Division 1 college football national championship game in Houston = $900.
"If money is no object, seats in the lower bowl of the stadium, right around the 50-yard line, are about $3,500. In other words, a mortgage payment on a typical Seattle-area home with 20% down or one 1997 Honda Accord with 140,000 miles on it.
The most expensive seats in the house are in Lower Level Section 106, Row A at around $12,500 per seat."
These prices are BEFORE the scalpers scoop them up. And of course do NOT include airfare, lodging and other extras.
Luke Humphries just averaged 118.66 in the second set...
Blimey.
And the darts swapped for throwing knives ?
Suggested by whom ?
It's just an incoherent list of stuff someone doesn't like.
There are good reasons large scale geoengineering isn’t being implemented at scale yet and they are exactly as described here. It is very difficult to predict regional impacts of solar attenuation, particularly anything that affects albedo, but one thing you can be sure of is it will cause provable effects like drought in some locations. I interviewed someone a few years ago whose doctorate was on uses of foams on the Atlantic sea surface to boost albedo. Very promising, fascinating stuff, but miles off getting any kind of international approval because of those sorts of downstream impacts.
So either someone like the US says FU and does it anyway, or nothing happens because you are unlikely ever to get consensus on measures like these in the UN and no private company will do it for obvious liability reasons.
Different matter if you haven't had a go for seven or eight minutes.