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  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    If it makes good commercial sense to stock Easter Eggs in January then fair play to the supermarkets. That’s the market speaking. I can scoff a little at it (as I do with the Christmas stuff appearing so early) but it’s not ruining my life.

    I’m not sure I’ve met anyone who has confessed to buying an Easter egg in January, but those people must exist, surely, to make it worthwhile.

    … in fact, I would go further and say Easter eggs were never a particularly significant tradition when I was growing up. I did get gifted one every year, I think, but I admit that the concept of having lots of them to get through never really existed. Maybe I’m atypical.

    I did think that… if I saw someone I knew buying Easter Eggs on Jan 2nd I would think they’re acting a bit odd. Mind you my other half has been buying next years Christmas decorations in the sales
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,412
    rcs1000 said:

    Does anyone other than me think that Cadbury's Cream Eggs are utterly revolting?

    Yep. Foul.
  • No_Offence_AlanNo_Offence_Alan Posts: 4,513
    slade said:

    ydoethur said:

    Oh good grief, Philippa Langley has a new book out, claiming inter alia that Lambert Simnel was Edward V.

    Well, I have to admit it's original. Nonsense on stilts, but original.

    Even allowing for the multiplicity of Edwards about at the time, it's surprising she muddled up Edward V with Edward Earl Of Warwick (whom Lambert Simnel also wasn't, for the record).

    Have you read Matt Lewis, The Survival of the Princes in The Tower?
    I have watched Blackadder, featuring Brian Blessed as Richard IV.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,242
    A

    If it makes good commercial sense to stock Easter Eggs in January then fair play to the supermarkets. That’s the market speaking. I can scoff a little at it (as I do with the Christmas stuff appearing so early) but it’s not ruining my life.

    I’m not sure I’ve met anyone who has confessed to buying an Easter egg in January, but those people must exist, surely, to make it worthwhile.

    … in fact, I would go further and say Easter eggs were never a particularly significant tradition when I was growing up. I did get gifted one every year, I think, but I admit that the concept of having lots of them to get through never really existed. Maybe I’m atypical.

    For a few years, Kew Gardens Easter Egg hunt was sponsored by Lindt. Who made sure the children were tripping over chocolate eggs… my two were very happy.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,769
    TimS said:

    isam said:

    malcolmg said:

    Andy_JS said:

    It's annoying that I can't watch the darts semi-final. It's not on free TV as far as I know.

    I've just looked up Luke Littler.

    Nice guy and all the best to him and I really struggle to belief he's 16; he looks more like a slightly overweight 36 year old, who's been knocking back the pints at his local for years, with not particularly good teeth.

    What's his diet like?
    Oysters and caviar. Washed down with ten pints of bitter.

    Probably.
    You would certainly not take him for a 16 year old.
    Quite unusual for a 16 yr old boy to have a 21 yr old girlfriend, or least it was in my day.


    I had a 23 year old girlfriend when I was 17, does that count?
    Stop showing off.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,984

    TimS said:

    isam said:

    malcolmg said:

    Andy_JS said:

    It's annoying that I can't watch the darts semi-final. It's not on free TV as far as I know.

    I've just looked up Luke Littler.

    Nice guy and all the best to him and I really struggle to belief he's 16; he looks more like a slightly overweight 36 year old, who's been knocking back the pints at his local for years, with not particularly good teeth.

    What's his diet like?
    Oysters and caviar. Washed down with ten pints of bitter.

    Probably.
    You would certainly not take him for a 16 year old.
    Quite unusual for a 16 yr old boy to have a 21 yr old girlfriend, or least it was in my day.


    I had a 23 year old girlfriend when I was 17, does that count?
    Stop showing off.
    Let’s be honest it’s not quite up there with Nick Palmer.
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,058
    Cancel Culture!!! (Or something)

    "Claudine Gay resigns as Harvard University president"

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67868280
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,769
    rcs1000 said:

    Does anyone other than me think that Cadbury's Cream Eggs are utterly revolting?

    An unusually wrong opinion, even for PB.
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559

    isam said:

    TimS said:

    isam said:


    isam said:

    Easter eggs on sale in Tescos apparently

    That didn't take long !!!!!!

    So? I know some moron Tory MP is tweeting about it, but this isn't news. Easter confectionery lines go into wholesalers in December, Christmas ones in August. Its an expandable consumption category, so if you get products in early you sell more. Some stuff (Creme Eggs, The Big Purple One) would sell all year round.
    I have no idea about a Tory mp tweets and to be fair nearly 60 years ago my family and I owned a newsagents and grocers and we did display Easter eggs in the new year

    I expect it may not surprise many
    I have no problem with you responding to Jake Berry. I have a problem with Jake Berry trying to create another culture wars woke issue with something that happens *every single year*.
    Have you got your culture war/woke issue mixed up? I don’t think people have ever said it was woke to have Easter Eggs in the shops too early, the complaint from that angle is that they’re not called Easter Eggs isn’t it?

    Looking at that Jake Berry video, he’s just saying he surprised Easter Eggs are in shops when Christmas was only last week, hardly attacking anyone for being woke.
    Moaning about Christmas stuff being on sale earlier and earlier is traditional.

    There probably graffiti about that at Pompeii.
    Yes, the political correctness gone mad/woke angle is lack of religious narrative on the eggs, not when they go on sale

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1417088/easter-egg-chocolate-easter-news-political-correctness-allyson-stewart-allen

    We’ve crossed the line now where people defending ‘woke’ are caricatures of the Daily Express readers they think they’re mocking
    Remember how builders talking about their feelings made them ”woke builders”? That wasn’t people defending woke, it was the surely-never-a-self-caricature Daily Mail.
    That wasn’t, but the matter we are talking about now seems to be - why would Easter Eggs going on sale in January be woke? Surely the complaint , if there is one, is that it’s crass commercialisation
    It's the Cultural Marxists undermining the traditions of Judeo-Christian Europe - if Easter can occur at any time, then it's not occurring at all.
    Moveable feasts are inherently revolutionary.

    Worst thing about early Easter, is having Mardi Gras in February, like it is this year - burrrrrrrr.

    BTW, get your king cake orders in early!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_cake

    https://gambinos.com/shop/king-cakes

    When I was living AND working in south Louisiana, during leadup to Lent, king cakes were THE thing. Typical for an office or group of friends to gather to split one once a week, or even once a day. With whoever ended up with "the baby" in their piece being obliged (by strictest of social sanctions) to purchase the NEXT king cake. At least until Ash Wednesday.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,769
    TimS said:

    TimS said:

    isam said:

    malcolmg said:

    Andy_JS said:

    It's annoying that I can't watch the darts semi-final. It's not on free TV as far as I know.

    I've just looked up Luke Littler.

    Nice guy and all the best to him and I really struggle to belief he's 16; he looks more like a slightly overweight 36 year old, who's been knocking back the pints at his local for years, with not particularly good teeth.

    What's his diet like?
    Oysters and caviar. Washed down with ten pints of bitter.

    Probably.
    You would certainly not take him for a 16 year old.
    Quite unusual for a 16 yr old boy to have a 21 yr old girlfriend, or least it was in my day.


    I had a 23 year old girlfriend when I was 17, does that count?
    Stop showing off.
    Let’s be honest it’s not quite up there with Nick Palmer.
    The man, the legend.
  • No_Offence_AlanNo_Offence_Alan Posts: 4,513
    isam said:

    TimS said:

    isam said:

    malcolmg said:

    Andy_JS said:

    It's annoying that I can't watch the darts semi-final. It's not on free TV as far as I know.

    I've just looked up Luke Littler.

    Nice guy and all the best to him and I really struggle to belief he's 16; he looks more like a slightly overweight 36 year old, who's been knocking back the pints at his local for years, with not particularly good teeth.

    What's his diet like?
    Oysters and caviar. Washed down with ten pints of bitter.

    Probably.
    You would certainly not take him for a 16 year old.
    Quite unusual for a 16 yr old boy to have a 21 yr old girlfriend, or least it was in my day.


    I had a 23 year old girlfriend when I was 17, does that count?
    Quite unusual I think, not that unusual means it’s wrong
    I know a 17-year-old boy with a girlfriend aged 23, at least according to her d.o.b. on Facebook.
    But I suspect she put a false date in when too young for a Facebook account.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,365
    DavidL said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Does anyone other than me think that Cadbury's Cream Eggs are utterly revolting?

    Nope.
    Yes.
  • numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 6,813
    rcs1000 said:

    Does anyone other than me think that Cadbury's Cream Eggs are utterly revolting?

    Incredibly sickly. I don’t know how anyone gets through a full one. The stuff inside sets my teeth on edge.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,132
    edited January 2
    ydoethur said:

    DavidL said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Does anyone other than me think that Cadbury's Cream Eggs are utterly revolting?

    Nope.
    Yes.
    Cream Heggs, please.

    We need to provide refuges for all those homeless dropped aitches.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,984

    rcs1000 said:

    Does anyone other than me think that Cadbury's Cream Eggs are utterly revolting?

    An unusually wrong opinion, even for PB.
    I’ve added this to the list of things I agree with Lucky Guy on. Crème eggs are awful. They’re as close an approximation you can get to some vestige of that point 2 milliseconds before the big sugar bang when all the sugar mass in the universe was concentrated into a volume of a couple of cubic inches.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,769

    tlg86 said:

    I think the BBC might get sued for this Tweet...

    https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1742223212962857311

    So probably unwise to repeat it....
    Even if they are (perhaps) quoting statement made in open court?
    I've always disliked that journo habit of taking a statement made in court, putting inverted commas round it and using it as the headline, but it's not like the BBC is doing anything unusual here. I'd have thought the rules around a tweet headline with text attached are the same as the headline in a paper or website with text below. But I am not a lawyer!
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,984
    MattW said:

    ydoethur said:

    DavidL said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Does anyone other than me think that Cadbury's Cream Eggs are utterly revolting?

    Nope.
    Yes.
    Cream Heggs, please.

    We need to provide refuges for all those homeless dropped aitches.
    They’re all already taken care of by people working in haitch-R.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,653

    rcs1000 said:

    Does anyone other than me think that Cadbury's Cream Eggs are utterly revolting?

    Incredibly sickly. I don’t know how anyone gets through a full one. The stuff inside sets my teeth on edge.
    Same here. They are absolutely disgusting.
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559

    A

    If it makes good commercial sense to stock Easter Eggs in January then fair play to the supermarkets. That’s the market speaking. I can scoff a little at it (as I do with the Christmas stuff appearing so early) but it’s not ruining my life.

    I’m not sure I’ve met anyone who has confessed to buying an Easter egg in January, but those people must exist, surely, to make it worthwhile.

    … in fact, I would go further and say Easter eggs were never a particularly significant tradition when I was growing up. I did get gifted one every year, I think, but I admit that the concept of having lots of them to get through never really existed. Maybe I’m atypical.

    For a few years, Kew Gardens Easter Egg hunt was sponsored by Lindt. Who made sure the children were tripping over chocolate eggs… my two were very happy.
    No doubt you were forced to do extensive taste testing, in defense of your family's health & safety.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,242

    isam said:

    TimS said:

    isam said:

    malcolmg said:

    Andy_JS said:

    It's annoying that I can't watch the darts semi-final. It's not on free TV as far as I know.

    I've just looked up Luke Littler.

    Nice guy and all the best to him and I really struggle to belief he's 16; he looks more like a slightly overweight 36 year old, who's been knocking back the pints at his local for years, with not particularly good teeth.

    What's his diet like?
    Oysters and caviar. Washed down with ten pints of bitter.

    Probably.
    You would certainly not take him for a 16 year old.
    Quite unusual for a 16 yr old boy to have a 21 yr old girlfriend, or least it was in my day.


    I had a 23 year old girlfriend when I was 17, does that count?
    Quite unusual I think, not that unusual means it’s wrong
    I know a 17-year-old boy with a girlfriend aged 23, at least according to her d.o.b. on Facebook.
    But I suspect she put a false date in when too young for a Facebook account.
    There’s a whole bunch of people at Apple who work on requests to “correct” the ages on iCloud accounts.

  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,859
    edited January 2

    rcs1000 said:

    Does anyone other than me think that Cadbury's Cream Eggs are utterly revolting?

    Incredibly sickly. I don’t know how anyone gets through a full one. The stuff inside sets my teeth on edge.
    Same here. They are absolutely disgusting.
    They were better before Cadbury sold out to the Americans and did something dreadful to their chocolate. But the filling is still very moreish. If you buy a box of six it’s hard to eat just one.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,871
    Evening all :)

    With new boundaries, it becomes more of a guessing game. I suspect Badenoch and Braverman are pretty safe barring an extinction level event for the Conservatives.

    I'd also expect Gillian Keegan to survive in Chichester and be a possible candidate.

    Penny Mordaunt's future is less certain so who else would run and under what rules? Once the 1922 is reconstituted from the survivors, they'll set the rules for the leadership contest in terms of number of MPs required for a candidate to be nominated.

    Will the 100-150 or so survivors want to quickly choose a new leader or would they allow Sunak a period as a caretaker? An October election gives less time to choose though in truth it won't matter much (except for the betting community).
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,242

    A

    If it makes good commercial sense to stock Easter Eggs in January then fair play to the supermarkets. That’s the market speaking. I can scoff a little at it (as I do with the Christmas stuff appearing so early) but it’s not ruining my life.

    I’m not sure I’ve met anyone who has confessed to buying an Easter egg in January, but those people must exist, surely, to make it worthwhile.

    … in fact, I would go further and say Easter eggs were never a particularly significant tradition when I was growing up. I did get gifted one every year, I think, but I admit that the concept of having lots of them to get through never really existed. Maybe I’m atypical.

    For a few years, Kew Gardens Easter Egg hunt was sponsored by Lindt. Who made sure the children were tripping over chocolate eggs… my two were very happy.
    No doubt you were forced to do extensive taste testing, in defense of your family's health & safety.
    More that after they had found 3 large eggs each we started telling them to “leave some for other children”
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559

    rcs1000 said:

    Does anyone other than me think that Cadbury's Cream Eggs are utterly revolting?

    Incredibly sickly. I don’t know how anyone gets through a full one. The stuff inside sets my teeth on edge.
    Next time, request the ones filled with candied kale.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,800
    This is excellent. All the more cream eggs for me. No risk of any shortage.
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,639
    DavidL said:

    This is excellent. All the more cream eggs for me. No risk of any shortage.

    Is this consistent with your weight loss objective? 😈
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,800

    DavidL said:

    This is excellent. All the more cream eggs for me. No risk of any shortage.

    Is this consistent with your weight loss objective? 😈
    Ah.
  • rcs1000 said:

    Does anyone other than me think that Cadbury's Cream Eggs are utterly revolting?

    Can I ask for the reinstatement of the "WTF" response button? Asking for a friend.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,412
    TimS said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Does anyone other than me think that Cadbury's Cream Eggs are utterly revolting?

    An unusually wrong opinion, even for PB.
    I’ve added this to the list of things I agree with Lucky Guy on. Crème eggs are awful. They’re as close an approximation you can get to some vestige of that point 2 milliseconds before the big sugar bang when all the sugar mass in the universe was concentrated into a volume of a couple of cubic inches.
    It's a very synthetic sweet taste. Like a sugary detergent.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,984

    rcs1000 said:

    Does anyone other than me think that Cadbury's Cream Eggs are utterly revolting?

    Can I ask for the reinstatement of the "WTF" response button? Asking for a friend.
    He’s not wrong though.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,132

    ydoethur said:

    Oh good grief, Philippa Langley has a new book out, claiming inter alia that Lambert Simnel was Edward V.

    Well, I have to admit it's original. Nonsense on stilts, but original.

    Even allowing for the multiplicity of Edwards about at the time, it's surprising she muddled up Edward V with Edward Earl Of Warwick (whom Lambert Simnel also wasn't, for the record).

    Am now working on new book, proving that the Black Prince was actually Black person of mixed Norman-African heritage.

    Hoping for blockbuster best seller! Thus am angling for a forward by Meghan, Dutchess of Sussex.
    Well, why else was he called da Black Prince? :lol:
    Yo! I'm a Prince and I'm Black, can you relate?
    How dope is that, for a Plantagenet!
    It was the armour .... innit.

    I'm sure I've seen his suit of armour somewhere.

    Doesn't he have a window in Gloucester Cathedral?
  • ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 5,331
    DavidL said:

    This is excellent. All the more cream eggs for me. No risk of any shortage.

    Don’t quite see how it’s going to help your plan to lose 22 kilos.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,988
    rcs1000 said:

    Does anyone other than me think that Cadbury's Cream Eggs are utterly revolting?

    Eating a Cream Egg is like listening to Radiohead...
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,365
    MattW said:

    ydoethur said:

    Oh good grief, Philippa Langley has a new book out, claiming inter alia that Lambert Simnel was Edward V.

    Well, I have to admit it's original. Nonsense on stilts, but original.

    Even allowing for the multiplicity of Edwards about at the time, it's surprising she muddled up Edward V with Edward Earl Of Warwick (whom Lambert Simnel also wasn't, for the record).

    Am now working on new book, proving that the Black Prince was actually Black person of mixed Norman-African heritage.

    Hoping for blockbuster best seller! Thus am angling for a forward by Meghan, Dutchess of Sussex.
    Well, why else was he called da Black Prince? :lol:
    Yo! I'm a Prince and I'm Black, can you relate?
    How dope is that, for a Plantagenet!
    It was the armour .... innit.

    I'm sure I've seen his suit of armour somewhere.

    Doesn't he have a window in Gloucester Cathedral?
    That's Edward II whose tomb is there.
  • ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 5,331
    Scott_xP said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Does anyone other than me think that Cadbury's Cream Eggs are utterly revolting?

    Eating a Cream Egg is like listening to Radiohead...
    It’s a blow out.
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    MattW said:

    ydoethur said:

    Oh good grief, Philippa Langley has a new book out, claiming inter alia that Lambert Simnel was Edward V.

    Well, I have to admit it's original. Nonsense on stilts, but original.

    Even allowing for the multiplicity of Edwards about at the time, it's surprising she muddled up Edward V with Edward Earl Of Warwick (whom Lambert Simnel also wasn't, for the record).

    Am now working on new book, proving that the Black Prince was actually Black person of mixed Norman-African heritage.

    Hoping for blockbuster best seller! Thus am angling for a forward by Meghan, Dutchess of Sussex.
    Well, why else was he called da Black Prince? :lol:
    Yo! I'm a Prince and I'm Black, can you relate?
    How dope is that, for a Plantagenet!
    It was the armour .... innit.

    I'm sure I've seen his suit of armour somewhere.

    Doesn't he have a window in Gloucester Cathedral?
    Was the armor black when the Black Prince wore it? OR blackened to tell a tall tale?

    Apparently nobody in HIS day called him "Black Prince" (or even Blackie for short).
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,800

    DavidL said:

    This is excellent. All the more cream eggs for me. No risk of any shortage.

    Don’t quite see how it’s going to help your plan to lose 22 kilos.
    Bunch of killjoys, honestly.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,549
    Looks like the rain has finally stopped, which is good because about 75% of the roads round here are flooded to some extent.
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    DavidL said:

    This is excellent. All the more cream eggs for me. No risk of any shortage.

    However, serious risk of widenage.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,009
    TimS said:

    TimS said:

    isam said:

    malcolmg said:

    Andy_JS said:

    It's annoying that I can't watch the darts semi-final. It's not on free TV as far as I know.

    I've just looked up Luke Littler.

    Nice guy and all the best to him and I really struggle to belief he's 16; he looks more like a slightly overweight 36 year old, who's been knocking back the pints at his local for years, with not particularly good teeth.

    What's his diet like?
    Oysters and caviar. Washed down with ten pints of bitter.

    Probably.
    You would certainly not take him for a 16 year old.
    Quite unusual for a 16 yr old boy to have a 21 yr old girlfriend, or least it was in my day.


    I had a 23 year old girlfriend when I was 17, does that count?
    Stop showing off.
    Let’s be honest it’s not quite up there with Nick Palmer.
    "up there with Nick Palmer" sounds like a different variety of 3 in a bed.
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 28,896

    isam said:

    TimS said:

    isam said:


    isam said:

    Easter eggs on sale in Tescos apparently

    That didn't take long !!!!!!

    So? I know some moron Tory MP is tweeting about it, but this isn't news. Easter confectionery lines go into wholesalers in December, Christmas ones in August. Its an expandable consumption category, so if you get products in early you sell more. Some stuff (Creme Eggs, The Big Purple One) would sell all year round.
    I have no idea about a Tory mp tweets and to be fair nearly 60 years ago my family and I owned a newsagents and grocers and we did display Easter eggs in the new year

    I expect it may not surprise many
    I have no problem with you responding to Jake Berry. I have a problem with Jake Berry trying to create another culture wars woke issue with something that happens *every single year*.
    Have you got your culture war/woke issue mixed up? I don’t think people have ever said it was woke to have Easter Eggs in the shops too early, the complaint from that angle is that they’re not called Easter Eggs isn’t it?

    Looking at that Jake Berry video, he’s just saying he surprised Easter Eggs are in shops when Christmas was only last week, hardly attacking anyone for being woke.
    Moaning about Christmas stuff being on sale earlier and earlier is traditional.

    There probably graffiti about that at Pompeii.
    Yes, the political correctness gone mad/woke angle is lack of religious narrative on the eggs, not when they go on sale

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1417088/easter-egg-chocolate-easter-news-political-correctness-allyson-stewart-allen

    We’ve crossed the line now where people defending ‘woke’ are caricatures of the Daily Express readers they think they’re mocking
    Remember how builders talking about their feelings made them ”woke builders”? That wasn’t people defending woke, it was the surely-never-a-self-caricature Daily Mail.
    That wasn’t, but the matter we are talking about now seems to be - why would Easter Eggs going on sale in January be woke? Surely the complaint , if there is one, is that it’s crass commercialisation
    Agree, not a woke issue. But what I find strange is that a 'senior' MP thinks it's worth doing a video about Easter eggs at Tesco in January and tweeting it out.
    Mind you, what do I know, given that it's had 2.7M views.
    The “this isn’t about woke” posts by various people are very naive. This is a culture war post by Berry aimed at winding up people who get wound up by modern life.

    Easter Eggs on New Years Day / It’s not Traditional/ Not like the good old days / I blame the permissive society
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,242
    ydoethur said:

    MattW said:

    ydoethur said:

    Oh good grief, Philippa Langley has a new book out, claiming inter alia that Lambert Simnel was Edward V.

    Well, I have to admit it's original. Nonsense on stilts, but original.

    Even allowing for the multiplicity of Edwards about at the time, it's surprising she muddled up Edward V with Edward Earl Of Warwick (whom Lambert Simnel also wasn't, for the record).

    Am now working on new book, proving that the Black Prince was actually Black person of mixed Norman-African heritage.

    Hoping for blockbuster best seller! Thus am angling for a forward by Meghan, Dutchess of Sussex.
    Well, why else was he called da Black Prince? :lol:
    Yo! I'm a Prince and I'm Black, can you relate?
    How dope is that, for a Plantagenet!
    It was the armour .... innit.

    I'm sure I've seen his suit of armour somewhere.

    Doesn't he have a window in Gloucester Cathedral?
    That's Edward II whose tomb is there.
    Back in the day, blueing the armour (aka black armour) massively reduced maintenance. White (polished) armour would rust if you looked at it. The only way to keep it bright was to get the pages to polish it all the time. So having white armour made you really unpopular with the support crew.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,549
    It isn't woke to sell Easter eggs at the moment, but it is a bit unhelpful from the point of view of the fight against obesity.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,496

    tlg86 said:

    I think the BBC might get sued for this Tweet...

    https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1742223212962857311

    So probably unwise to repeat it....
    Even if they are (perhaps) quoting statement made in open court?
    I've always disliked that journo habit of taking a statement made in court, putting inverted commas round it and using it as the headline, but it's not like the BBC is doing anything unusual here. I'd have thought the rules around a tweet headline with text attached are the same as the headline in a paper or website with text below. But I am not a lawyer!
    Genuinely fair reporting would give as much emphasis and weight to the defence case as the prosecution. Opening speeches for the prosecution are often reported, defence openings (and closings) much more rarely. This is of course too much to ask for.

    Also too much to ask is the abolition of strangulated English such as the use of the word 'allegedly' as if the use of a qualifying adverb in something like "He violently allegedly killed the lady" is meaningful, when the qualification is that he may not have done it all, as in "He violently killed the lady or didn't kill the lady".

    English is: "The prosecutor alleged that he violently killed the lady"
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,800
    algarkirk said:

    tlg86 said:

    I think the BBC might get sued for this Tweet...

    https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1742223212962857311

    So probably unwise to repeat it....
    Even if they are (perhaps) quoting statement made in open court?
    I've always disliked that journo habit of taking a statement made in court, putting inverted commas round it and using it as the headline, but it's not like the BBC is doing anything unusual here. I'd have thought the rules around a tweet headline with text attached are the same as the headline in a paper or website with text below. But I am not a lawyer!
    Genuinely fair reporting would give as much emphasis and weight to the defence case as the prosecution. Opening speeches for the prosecution are often reported, defence openings (and closings) much more rarely. This is of course too much to ask for.

    Also too much to ask is the abolition of strangulated English such as the use of the word 'allegedly' as if the use of a qualifying adverb in something like "He violently allegedly killed the lady" is meaningful, when the qualification is that he may not have done it all, as in "He violently killed the lady or didn't kill the lady".

    English is: "The prosecutor alleged that he violently killed the lady"
    Pretty unusual thing for a prosecutor to do in my experience.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,365
    Andy_JS said:

    It isn't woke to sell Easter eggs at the moment, but it is a bit unhelpful from the point of view of the fight against obesity.

    You're asking them to put the nation's health above profits?

    Fat chance.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,408
    Andy_JS said:

    Looks like the rain has finally stopped, which is good because about 75% of the roads round here are flooded to some extent.

    This is the new normal.

    Warm and very wet winters.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,408
    Andy_JS said:

    It isn't woke to sell Easter eggs at the moment, but it is a bit unhelpful from the point of view of the fight against obesity.

    I saw a (fat, quite frankly) lady buy a whole chunk of chocolate at a service station today whilst I was queuing to pay for my petrol.

    Plenty of people can't help themselves.
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559

    ydoethur said:

    MattW said:

    ydoethur said:

    Oh good grief, Philippa Langley has a new book out, claiming inter alia that Lambert Simnel was Edward V.

    Well, I have to admit it's original. Nonsense on stilts, but original.

    Even allowing for the multiplicity of Edwards about at the time, it's surprising she muddled up Edward V with Edward Earl Of Warwick (whom Lambert Simnel also wasn't, for the record).

    Am now working on new book, proving that the Black Prince was actually Black person of mixed Norman-African heritage.

    Hoping for blockbuster best seller! Thus am angling for a forward by Meghan, Dutchess of Sussex.
    Well, why else was he called da Black Prince? :lol:
    Yo! I'm a Prince and I'm Black, can you relate?
    How dope is that, for a Plantagenet!
    It was the armour .... innit.

    I'm sure I've seen his suit of armour somewhere.

    Doesn't he have a window in Gloucester Cathedral?
    That's Edward II whose tomb is there.
    Back in the day, blueing the armour (aka black armour) massively reduced maintenance. White (polished) armour would rust if you looked at it. The only way to keep it bright was to get the pages to polish it all the time. So having white armour made you really unpopular with the support crew.
    So having "black" armor was hardly notable? No wonder nobody called him "the Black Prince" to his face. OR for centuries afterward.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 12,984

    Scott_xP said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Does anyone other than me think that Cadbury's Cream Eggs are utterly revolting?

    Eating a Cream Egg is like listening to Radiohead...
    It’s a blow out.
    I discovered today that Radiohead wrote a theme tune for Spectre. It was rejected in favour of Sam Smith.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CLiDemXYSLc
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,408
    I just caught the first 15 seconds of New Order's music video for True Faith.

    Absolutely hilarious. Comedy "robots" (in stag-do fancy dress) happy slapping each other in time to the snare drum.

    Who influenced who? True Faith the Pet Shop Boys, or the Pet Shop Boys on True Faith?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,365

    ydoethur said:

    Bad joke for today, about mathematics:

    Teacher: If I gave you 2 rabbits , and another 2 rabbits and another 2, how many will you have?

    Johnny: Seven Sir

    Teacher: No, listen carefully. If I gave you 2 rabbits , and another 2 rabbits and another 2, how many will you have?

    Johnny: Seven

    Teacher: Let me put it to you differently. If I gave you 2 apples, and another 2 apples and another 2, how many will you have?

    Johnny: Six.

    Teacher: Good. Now if I gave you 2 rabbits , and another 2 rabbits and another 2, how many will you have?

    Johnny: Seven!!!

    Teacher: Where the fuck do you get seven from?!?!?

    Johnny: Because I fucking have 1 at home!!!

    (The teacher would be sacked for professional misconduct and wind up with OFSTED.)

    Sad that the kid has no apples at home. Probably only eats Easter Eggs.
    At least it's not crème eggs.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,496
    edited January 2
    ydoethur said:

    MattW said:

    ydoethur said:

    Oh good grief, Philippa Langley has a new book out, claiming inter alia that Lambert Simnel was Edward V.

    Well, I have to admit it's original. Nonsense on stilts, but original.

    Even allowing for the multiplicity of Edwards about at the time, it's surprising she muddled up Edward V with Edward Earl Of Warwick (whom Lambert Simnel also wasn't, for the record).

    Am now working on new book, proving that the Black Prince was actually Black person of mixed Norman-African heritage.

    Hoping for blockbuster best seller! Thus am angling for a forward by Meghan, Dutchess of Sussex.
    Well, why else was he called da Black Prince? :lol:
    Yo! I'm a Prince and I'm Black, can you relate?
    How dope is that, for a Plantagenet!
    It was the armour .... innit.

    I'm sure I've seen his suit of armour somewhere.

    Doesn't he have a window in Gloucester Cathedral?
    That's Edward II whose tomb is there.
    The Black Prince, Edward Woodstock, is buried in Canterbury Cathedral, with a decent epitaph:

    Such as thou art, sometime was I.
    Such as I am, such shalt thou be.
    I thought little on th'our of Death
    So long as I enjoyed breath.
    On earth I had great riches
    Land, houses, great treasure, horses, money and gold.
    But now a wretched captive am I,
    Deep in the ground, lo here I lie.
    My beauty great, is all quite gone,
    My flesh is wasted to the bone.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,549
    rcs1000 said:

    Does anyone other than me think that Cadbury's Cream Eggs are utterly revolting?

    No, I could eat 10 in a row. But I've managed to avoid eating one for a couple of years.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,365

    Andy_JS said:

    It isn't woke to sell Easter eggs at the moment, but it is a bit unhelpful from the point of view of the fight against obesity.

    I saw a (fat, quite frankly) lady buy a whole chunk of chocolate at a service station today whilst I was queuing to pay for my petrol.

    Plenty of people can't help themselves.
    It sounds as though she did, actually.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 11,047
    TimS said:

    ydoethur said:

    isam said:

    TimS said:

    isam said:

    malcolmg said:

    Andy_JS said:

    It's annoying that I can't watch the darts semi-final. It's not on free TV as far as I know.

    I've just looked up Luke Littler.

    Nice guy and all the best to him and I really struggle to belief he's 16; he looks more like a slightly overweight 36 year old, who's been knocking back the pints at his local for years, with not particularly good teeth.

    What's his diet like?
    Oysters and caviar. Washed down with ten pints of bitter.

    Probably.
    You would certainly not take him for a 16 year old.
    Quite unusual for a 16 yr old boy to have a 21 yr old girlfriend, or least it was in my day.


    I had a 23 year old girlfriend when I was 17, does that count?
    Quite unusual I think, not that unusual means it’s wrong
    Unless she was a
    teacher.
    She was, but it was legal then…
    Monsieur Macron, it’s an honour to have you on PB.com.
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559

    Andy_JS said:

    Looks like the rain has finally stopped, which is good because about 75% of the roads round here are flooded to some extent.

    This is the new normal.

    Warm and very wet winters.
    Look on the bright side - extensive road flooding reduces potential for Extinction Rebellion roadblocks.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,779
    ydoethur said:

    Andy_JS said:

    It isn't woke to sell Easter eggs at the moment, but it is a bit unhelpful from the point of view of the fight against obesity.

    You're asking them to put the nation's health above profits?

    Fat chance.
    "New, decadently filled dark chocolate-flavour insulin injections, brought to you by Cadburys. Only £100 a shot during Easter."
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,988

    I just caught the first 15 seconds of New Order's music video for True Faith.

    Absolutely hilarious. Comedy "robots" (in stag-do fancy dress) happy slapping each other in time to the snare drum.

    Who influenced who? True Faith the Pet Shop Boys, or the Pet Shop Boys on True Faith?

    The whole thing is spectacular.

    It was conceived by a French dance company, and was intended not to feature the band at all.

    The record company hated it, and spliced in some shots of a live gig. The bass player's leg, and only his leg, appears briefly.
  • sarissa said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Does anyone other than me think that Cadbury's Cream Eggs are utterly revolting?

    Useful as a relatable measure, though: https://xkcd.com/1035/
    LOL that is characteristically hilarious, especially the final box.

    xkcd is like the American version of Matt. The only decent cartoonist either side of the pond.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,566
    Andy_JS said:

    Looks like the rain has finally stopped, which is good because about 75% of the roads round here are flooded to some extent.

    The River Trent south of Derby looks as though it'll smash the previous flood record (at least, properly measured one) in a couple of days.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,815

    isam said:

    malcolmg said:

    Andy_JS said:

    It's annoying that I can't watch the darts semi-final. It's not on free TV as far as I know.

    I've just looked up Luke Littler.

    Nice guy and all the best to him and I really struggle to belief he's 16; he looks more like a slightly overweight 36 year old, who's been knocking back the pints at his local for years, with not particularly good teeth.

    What's his diet like?
    Oysters and caviar. Washed down with ten pints of bitter.

    Probably.
    You would certainly not take him for a 16 year old.
    Quite unusual for a 16 yr old boy to have a 21 yr old girlfriend, or least it was in my day.


    Tell me, what did you see in soon-to-be millionaire darts player Luke Littler?
    Luke reminds of one of those pesky asylum seekers sneaking over in small boats, and claiming they're only 16 :lol:
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,779

    isam said:

    TimS said:

    isam said:


    isam said:

    Easter eggs on sale in Tescos apparently

    That didn't take long !!!!!!

    So? I know some moron Tory MP is tweeting about it, but this isn't news. Easter confectionery lines go into wholesalers in December, Christmas ones in August. Its an expandable consumption category, so if you get products in early you sell more. Some stuff (Creme Eggs, The Big Purple One) would sell all year round.
    I have no idea about a Tory mp tweets and to be fair nearly 60 years ago my family and I owned a newsagents and grocers and we did display Easter eggs in the new year

    I expect it may not surprise many
    I have no problem with you responding to Jake Berry. I have a problem with Jake Berry trying to create another culture wars woke issue with something that happens *every single year*.
    Have you got your culture war/woke issue mixed up? I don’t think people have ever said it was woke to have Easter Eggs in the shops too early, the complaint from that angle is that they’re not called Easter Eggs isn’t it?

    Looking at that Jake Berry video, he’s just saying he surprised Easter Eggs are in shops when Christmas was only last week, hardly attacking anyone for being woke.
    Moaning about Christmas stuff being on sale earlier and earlier is traditional.

    There probably graffiti about that at Pompeii.
    Yes, the political correctness gone mad/woke angle is lack of religious narrative on the eggs, not when they go on sale

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1417088/easter-egg-chocolate-easter-news-political-correctness-allyson-stewart-allen

    We’ve crossed the line now where people defending ‘woke’ are caricatures of the Daily Express readers they think they’re mocking
    Remember how builders talking about their feelings made them ”woke builders”? That wasn’t people defending woke, it was the surely-never-a-self-caricature Daily Mail.
    That wasn’t, but the matter we are talking about now seems to be - why would Easter Eggs going on sale in January be woke? Surely the complaint , if there is one, is that it’s crass commercialisation
    Agree, not a woke issue. But what I find strange is that a 'senior' MP thinks it's worth doing a video about Easter eggs at Tesco in January and tweeting it out.
    Mind you, what do I know, given that it's had 2.7M views.
    The “this isn’t about woke” posts by various people are very naive. This is a culture war post by Berry aimed at winding up people who get wound up by modern life.

    Easter Eggs on New Years Day / It’s not Traditional/ Not like the good old days / I blame the permissive society
    I can still remember getting a Scalextric (well, knock-off version) set in late January as a 'Christmas Present' . The explanation from my parents was that 'Santa had been held up'.

    Not long after the 1975 'EC' referendum. Coincidence? I think not!
  • Alphabet_SoupAlphabet_Soup Posts: 3,244
    edited January 2

    ydoethur said:

    MattW said:

    ydoethur said:

    Oh good grief, Philippa Langley has a new book out, claiming inter alia that Lambert Simnel was Edward V.

    Well, I have to admit it's original. Nonsense on stilts, but original.

    Even allowing for the multiplicity of Edwards about at the time, it's surprising she muddled up Edward V with Edward Earl Of Warwick (whom Lambert Simnel also wasn't, for the record).

    Am now working on new book, proving that the Black Prince was actually Black person of mixed Norman-African heritage.

    Hoping for blockbuster best seller! Thus am angling for a forward by Meghan, Dutchess of Sussex.
    Well, why else was he called da Black Prince? :lol:
    Yo! I'm a Prince and I'm Black, can you relate?
    How dope is that, for a Plantagenet!
    It was the armour .... innit.

    I'm sure I've seen his suit of armour somewhere.

    Doesn't he have a window in Gloucester Cathedral?
    That's Edward II whose tomb is there.
    Back in the day, blueing the armour (aka black armour) massively reduced maintenance. White (polished) armour would rust if you looked at it. The only way to keep it bright was to get the pages to polish it all the time. So having white armour made you really unpopular with the support crew.
    So having "black" armor was hardly notable? No wonder nobody called him "the Black Prince" to his face. OR for centuries afterward.
    At school he'd have been called "Inky" - the fate of Hurree Jamset Ram Singh, who was, indeed, a Black Prince.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,365

    Andy_JS said:

    Looks like the rain has finally stopped, which is good because about 75% of the roads round here are flooded to some extent.

    The River Trent south of Derby looks as though it'll smash the previous flood record (at least, properly measured one) in a couple of days.
    Most of the Trent is south of Derby, except that last bit running north through Lincolnshire. Do you have a particular confluence in mind? I would have thought Burton might be feeling a bit nervous.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,653

    DavidL said:

    This is excellent. All the more cream eggs for me. No risk of any shortage.

    Is this consistent with your weight loss objective? 😈
    Cream Eggs > diabetes > complications > couple of legs off > job done!

    (Sorry!)
  • spudgfshspudgfsh Posts: 1,494

    Andy_JS said:

    Looks like the rain has finally stopped, which is good because about 75% of the roads round here are flooded to some extent.

    The River Trent south of Derby looks as though it'll smash the previous flood record (at least, properly measured one) in a couple of days.
    Got a text message from my neighbour earlier telling me which roads were shut for flooding in that area. hopefully by the time I need to use them it'll have gone down a bit.
  • mwadamsmwadams Posts: 3,590

    sarissa said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Does anyone other than me think that Cadbury's Cream Eggs are utterly revolting?

    Useful as a relatable measure, though: https://xkcd.com/1035/
    LOL that is characteristically hilarious, especially the final box.

    xkcd is like the American version of Matt. The only decent cartoonist either side of the pond.
    It's a particularly good alt-text on that one, too.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,779

    rcs1000 said:

    Does anyone other than me think that Cadbury's Cream Eggs are utterly revolting?

    Yep. Foul.
    There is something especially 'cheap yet cloyingly luxurious' about them that I sometimes think would have made a very good start to an Orwell article.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,412

    Andy_JS said:

    Looks like the rain has finally stopped, which is good because about 75% of the roads round here are flooded to some extent.

    This is the new normal.

    Warm and very wet winters.
    I think I'd ban the phrase 'the new normal'. It seems to function as an excuse for spineless politicians and greasy corporates to enforce unpleasant situations on the public with no prospect of abatement.

    We've had a good fiddle with climate this year, banning those maritime fuels, the effect of which was to make temperatures (sea temperatures at any rate) rise significantly. So far I don't think that situation has been reversed or any attempt made to mitigate it, despite various private jet-fuelled junkets. 'Decarbonise' is the only show in town, despite it seeming to have all the impact on climate that housewives donating their pots and pans had on Spitfire production.

    We need creative solutions to optimise the climate, that work quickly, and to be prepared to bug out quickly it they're found not to work. Net Zero is tangential at best in this regard.

  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559
    Some good news (at long last) for Ron DeSantis?

    Techcrunch.com - Public domain Mickey Mouse is the first meme of 2024

    The new year marks the nerdiest holiday you maybe didn’t know about: Public Domain Day. But this year’s celebration is extra special. After years of legal battles, “Steamboat Willie,” a 1928 Walt Disney short featuring Mickey Mouse, is now public domain.

    No, that doesn’t mean that you can take the character of Mickey Mouse as we know him today and do whatever you want. But, Mickey Mouse as he appears in the “Steamboat Willie” animation? That’s public domain, baby.

    Every January 1, a bunch of old works of literature, music and art enter the public domain, meaning that no one holds exclusive rights to the work anymore. Some works are created to be public domain from the get-go, but previously copyrighted works become public domain because the copyright can expire over time. Copyright law differs from country to country, but to put it simply, the concept of the public domain is why there’s a Winnie the Pooh slasher film (which has a 3% rating on Rotten Tomatoes…), or a queer “Great Gatsby” retelling. . . .

    Mickey Mouse has already been remixed in certain media, like the TV show South Park, which created an egomaniacal Mr. Mouse character who is obsessed with owning everything. Mr. Mouse is an obvious rip off of Mickey, but depictions like this can be protected under a different subset of copyright law. Under fair use doctrine, some behaviors that might seem like copyright violations are legally permissible if they are transformative or satirical in nature (but of course, these are subjective parameters, which is a whole other can of legal worms).

    Any notable work that enters the public domain will garner attention. But part of why there is such an excess of surprise “Steamboat Willie” adaptations is because Disney worked so hard to prevent this day from ever arriving.

    “Steamboat Willie” was slated to enter the public domain in 1984, but Disney managed to extend that copyright for 40 more years through extensive government lobbying for two different copyright extension acts. First, Disney pushed for Congress to pass the Copyright Act of 1976, which delayed “Steamboat Willie” and Mickey Mouse’s public domain debut until 2004. By the 1990s, Disney continued to lobby for further extensions, which gave us the Copyright Term Extension Act of 1998, making “Steamboat Willie” safe until just a few days ago. . . .

    Some of Disney’s most iconic works were adapted from public domain stories, like “The Little Mermaid” by Hans Christian Andersen, or the Brothers Grimm’s stories about Cinderella and Rapunzel. So, critics of Disney found its extensive lobbying for copyright extension to be hypocritical, with some even referring to the 1998 law as the “Mickey Mouse Protection Act.” . . .

    https://techcrunch.com/2024/01/02/steamboat-willie-mickey-mouse-public-domain/
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,412
    algarkirk said:

    tlg86 said:

    I think the BBC might get sued for this Tweet...

    https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1742223212962857311

    So probably unwise to repeat it....
    Even if they are (perhaps) quoting statement made in open court?
    I've always disliked that journo habit of taking a statement made in court, putting inverted commas round it and using it as the headline, but it's not like the BBC is doing anything unusual here. I'd have thought the rules around a tweet headline with text attached are the same as the headline in a paper or website with text below. But I am not a lawyer!
    Genuinely fair reporting would give as much emphasis and weight to the defence case as the prosecution. Opening speeches for the prosecution are often reported, defence openings (and closings) much more rarely. This is of course too much to ask for.

    Also too much to ask is the abolition of strangulated English such as the use of the word 'allegedly' as if the use of a qualifying adverb in something like "He violently allegedly killed the lady" is meaningful, when the qualification is that he may not have done it all, as in "He violently killed the lady or didn't kill the lady".

    English is: "The prosecutor alleged that he violently killed the lady"
    Point of order Lord Copper "The prosecutor alleged that he killed the lady violently" please.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,408

    Andy_JS said:

    Looks like the rain has finally stopped, which is good because about 75% of the roads round here are flooded to some extent.

    This is the new normal.

    Warm and very wet winters.
    I think I'd ban the phrase 'the new normal'. It seems to function as an excuse for spineless politicians and greasy corporates to enforce unpleasant situations on the public with no prospect of abatement.

    We've had a good fiddle with climate this year, banning those maritime fuels, the effect of which was to make temperatures (sea temperatures at any rate) rise significantly. So far I don't think that situation has been reversed or any attempt made to mitigate it, despite various private jet-fuelled junkets. 'Decarbonise' is the only show in town, despite it seeming to have all the impact on climate that housewives donating their pots and pans had on Spitfire production.

    We need creative solutions to optimise the climate, that work quickly, and to be prepared to bug out quickly it they're found not to work. Net Zero is tangential at best in this regard.

    We need geo-engineering solutions to suck carbon back out the atmosphere en-masse, is what we need - and pronto.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 42,566
    spudgfsh said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Looks like the rain has finally stopped, which is good because about 75% of the roads round here are flooded to some extent.

    The River Trent south of Derby looks as though it'll smash the previous flood record (at least, properly measured one) in a couple of days.
    Got a text message from my neighbour earlier telling me which roads were shut for flooding in that area. hopefully by the time I need to use them it'll have gone down a bit.
    I used to love it when the flooding reached the Willington Road at Twyford. Used to go down that road to school as a kid, and my mum was always annoyed when she found it flooded and had to take the long route around.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,555
    edited January 2
    TimS said:

    Scott_xP said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Does anyone other than me think that Cadbury's Cream Eggs are utterly revolting?

    Eating a Cream Egg is like listening to Radiohead...
    It’s a blow out.
    I discovered today that Radiohead wrote a theme tune for Spectre. It was rejected in favour of Sam Smith.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CLiDemXYSLc
    Rejected because they would have had to kill Bond off early?
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    edited January 2

    isam said:

    TimS said:

    isam said:


    isam said:

    Easter eggs on sale in Tescos apparently

    That didn't take long !!!!!!

    So? I know some moron Tory MP is tweeting about it, but this isn't news. Easter confectionery lines go into wholesalers in December, Christmas ones in August. Its an expandable consumption category, so if you get products in early you sell more. Some stuff (Creme Eggs, The Big Purple One) would sell all year round.
    I have no idea about a Tory mp tweets and to be fair nearly 60 years ago my family and I owned a newsagents and grocers and we did display Easter eggs in the new year

    I expect it may not surprise many
    I have no problem with you responding to Jake Berry. I have a problem with Jake Berry trying to create another culture wars woke issue with something that happens *every single year*.
    Have you got your culture war/woke issue mixed up? I don’t think people have ever said it was woke to have Easter Eggs in the shops too early, the complaint from that angle is that they’re not called Easter Eggs isn’t it?

    Looking at that Jake Berry video, he’s just saying he surprised Easter Eggs are in shops when Christmas was only last week, hardly attacking anyone for being woke.
    Moaning about Christmas stuff being on sale earlier and earlier is traditional.

    There probably graffiti about that at Pompeii.
    Yes, the political correctness gone mad/woke angle is lack of religious narrative on the eggs, not when they go on sale

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1417088/easter-egg-chocolate-easter-news-political-correctness-allyson-stewart-allen

    We’ve crossed the line now where people defending ‘woke’ are caricatures of the Daily Express readers they think they’re mocking
    Remember how builders talking about their feelings made them ”woke builders”? That wasn’t people defending woke, it was the surely-never-a-self-caricature Daily Mail.
    That wasn’t, but the matter we are talking about now seems to be - why would Easter Eggs going on sale in January be woke? Surely the complaint , if there is one, is that it’s crass commercialisation
    Agree, not a woke issue. But what I find strange is that a 'senior' MP thinks it's worth doing a video about Easter eggs at Tesco in January and tweeting it out.
    Mind you, what do I know, given that it's had 2.7M views.
    The “this isn’t about woke” posts by various people are very naive. This is a culture war post by Berry aimed at winding up people who get wound up by modern life.

    Easter Eggs on New Years Day / It’s not Traditional/ Not like the good old days / I blame the permissive society
    Blimey, you had a long time to try and wriggle out of that, or fess up that you’d mixed up the ‘Not Easter’ Eggs ‘woke’ issue with this one.

    Why would people who are regarded as ‘woke’ be championing the right of Supermarkets to sell Easter Eggs in early January? It doesn’t seem that it should matter either way. You just seem to be writing your own pet hates into it having got the wrong end of the stick, like someone else did with the EU lightbulbs the other day

    The Mirror ran an article moaning about it in mid December & The BBC here quote the Royal Society for Public Health complaining about the practice of early egg sales… so it’s hardly a right wing, culture war, anti woke thing at all

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/money/shoppers-horror-bm-already-selling-31664712

    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-47735108
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,408
    Scott_xP said:

    I just caught the first 15 seconds of New Order's music video for True Faith.

    Absolutely hilarious. Comedy "robots" (in stag-do fancy dress) happy slapping each other in time to the snare drum.

    Who influenced who? True Faith the Pet Shop Boys, or the Pet Shop Boys on True Faith?

    The whole thing is spectacular.

    It was conceived by a French dance company, and was intended not to feature the band at all.

    The record company hated it, and spliced in some shots of a live gig. The bass player's leg, and only his leg, appears briefly.
    Have we finally discovered why you're so pro-EU?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,555
    Oh, and the Good Lady Wife wrote a title song for Bond that Barbara Broccoli loved (had it on her personal jukebox) but you cannot believe the record company shenanigans that go on over getting a Bond title....
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,412

    Andy_JS said:

    Looks like the rain has finally stopped, which is good because about 75% of the roads round here are flooded to some extent.

    This is the new normal.

    Warm and very wet winters.
    I think I'd ban the phrase 'the new normal'. It seems to function as an excuse for spineless politicians and greasy corporates to enforce unpleasant situations on the public with no prospect of abatement.

    We've had a good fiddle with climate this year, banning those maritime fuels, the effect of which was to make temperatures (sea temperatures at any rate) rise significantly. So far I don't think that situation has been reversed or any attempt made to mitigate it, despite various private jet-fuelled junkets. 'Decarbonise' is the only show in town, despite it seeming to have all the impact on climate that housewives donating their pots and pans had on Spitfire production.

    We need creative solutions to optimise the climate, that work quickly, and to be prepared to bug out quickly it they're found not to work. Net Zero is tangential at best in this regard.

    We need geo-engineering solutions to suck carbon back out the atmosphere en-masse, is what we need - and pronto.
    Perhaps, as long as we can blow it back out again if we find it makes things worse.

    Ships squirting water into the air to brighten the clouds is a great alternative to reverse the damaging impact of the recent air cleaning measures, this is something that at least the UK could enforce on the Merchant and Royal Navies. But that would be taking positive steps to fix a problem outside of berating people for showering too long and leaving lights on.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,365

    My friend got a pepper grinder in the shape of a Womble for Christmas.

    He's disappointed with it though, the pepper is always underground or overground.

    So he's on a Hyde-ing to nothing?
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    edited January 2
    “And I’d have gotten away with it…”


  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,653

    Andy_JS said:

    Looks like the rain has finally stopped, which is good because about 75% of the roads round here are flooded to some extent.

    This is the new normal.

    Warm and very wet winters.
    Warm, wet winters with westerly winds is the very definition of a Mediterranean climate.

    (Now, if we could just sort the summers out.)
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,068
    Andy_JS said:

    It's annoying that I can't watch the darts semi-final. It's not on free TV as far as I know.

    [cries in Star Trek]
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 11,047

    Andy_JS said:

    Looks like the rain has finally stopped, which is good because about 75% of the roads round here are flooded to some extent.

    This is the new normal.

    Warm and very wet winters.
    I think I'd ban the phrase 'the new normal'. It seems to function as an excuse for spineless politicians and greasy corporates to enforce unpleasant situations on the public with no prospect of abatement.

    We've had a good fiddle with climate this year, banning those maritime fuels, the effect of which was to make temperatures (sea temperatures at any rate) rise significantly. So far I don't think that situation has been reversed or any attempt made to mitigate it, despite various private jet-fuelled junkets. 'Decarbonise' is the only show in town, despite it seeming to have all the impact on climate that housewives donating their pots and pans had on Spitfire production.

    We need creative solutions to optimise the climate, that work quickly, and to be prepared to bug out quickly it they're found not to work. Net Zero is tangential at best in this regard.

    We need geo-engineering solutions to suck carbon back out the atmosphere en-masse, is what we need - and pronto.
    Yes… and that’s why lots of people are working on making these solutions a reality. What I don’t understand is why Luckyguy1983 keeps posting as if no-one is looking into this.
  • darkagedarkage Posts: 5,398
    CatMan said:

    Cancel Culture!!! (Or something)

    "Claudine Gay resigns as Harvard University president"

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67868280

    The Republicans are having a lot of success in their 'war on woke' in the Biden presidency , you wonder if a Trump presidency would actually set their cause back.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    Andy_JS said:

    Looks like the rain has finally stopped, which is good because about 75% of the roads round here are flooded to some extent.

    This is the new normal.

    Warm and very wet winters.
    Warm, wet winters with westerly winds is the very definition of a Mediterranean climate.

    (Now, if we could just sort the summers out.)
    I read that in Brian Walden’s voice!
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,653
    Kids Company founder Camila Batmanghelidjh dies

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67868843
  • darkagedarkage Posts: 5,398

    Andy_JS said:

    Looks like the rain has finally stopped, which is good because about 75% of the roads round here are flooded to some extent.

    This is the new normal.

    Warm and very wet winters.
    Warm, wet winters with westerly winds is the very definition of a Mediterranean climate.

    (Now, if we could just sort the summers out.)
    It is minus 17 here in Finland, you can't do anything it is just too cold. The 'warm and wet' winter back in the UK is actually quite pleasant in contrast.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,496
    edited January 2

    ydoethur said:

    MattW said:

    ydoethur said:

    Oh good grief, Philippa Langley has a new book out, claiming inter alia that Lambert Simnel was Edward V.

    Well, I have to admit it's original. Nonsense on stilts, but original.

    Even allowing for the multiplicity of Edwards about at the time, it's surprising she muddled up Edward V with Edward Earl Of Warwick (whom Lambert Simnel also wasn't, for the record).

    Am now working on new book, proving that the Black Prince was actually Black person of mixed Norman-African heritage.

    Hoping for blockbuster best seller! Thus am angling for a forward by Meghan, Dutchess of Sussex.
    Well, why else was he called da Black Prince? :lol:
    Yo! I'm a Prince and I'm Black, can you relate?
    How dope is that, for a Plantagenet!
    It was the armour .... innit.

    I'm sure I've seen his suit of armour somewhere.

    Doesn't he have a window in Gloucester Cathedral?
    That's Edward II whose tomb is there.
    Back in the day, blueing the armour (aka black armour) massively reduced maintenance. White (polished) armour would rust if you looked at it. The only way to keep it bright was to get the pages to polish it all the time. So having white armour made you really unpopular with the support crew.
    So having "black" armor was hardly notable? No wonder nobody called him "the Black Prince" to his face. OR for centuries afterward.
    At school he'd have been called "Inky" - the fate of Hurree Jamset Ram Singh, who was, indeed, a Black Prince.
    Some Bunter's were still in print when I was growing up, and I read a few. My dad was of the generation that grew up with them, and the Magnet, as they came out. While from my grown up perspective awful - William and Jennings are as if by Emily Bronte in comparison - the memory of them is still there; and their incorrectness from every conceivable point of view now, so that they are entirely irredeemable, just adds to their charm. But the badness of the writing is beyond description. I loved Bunter and the Phantom of the Towers especially. And as for the one set among cannibals......
  • SeaShantyIrish2SeaShantyIrish2 Posts: 17,559

    ydoethur said:

    MattW said:

    ydoethur said:

    Oh good grief, Philippa Langley has a new book out, claiming inter alia that Lambert Simnel was Edward V.

    Well, I have to admit it's original. Nonsense on stilts, but original.

    Even allowing for the multiplicity of Edwards about at the time, it's surprising she muddled up Edward V with Edward Earl Of Warwick (whom Lambert Simnel also wasn't, for the record).

    Am now working on new book, proving that the Black Prince was actually Black person of mixed Norman-African heritage.

    Hoping for blockbuster best seller! Thus am angling for a forward by Meghan, Dutchess of Sussex.
    Well, why else was he called da Black Prince? :lol:
    Yo! I'm a Prince and I'm Black, can you relate?
    How dope is that, for a Plantagenet!
    It was the armour .... innit.

    I'm sure I've seen his suit of armour somewhere.

    Doesn't he have a window in Gloucester Cathedral?
    That's Edward II whose tomb is there.
    Back in the day, blueing the armour (aka black armour) massively reduced maintenance. White (polished) armour would rust if you looked at it. The only way to keep it bright was to get the pages to polish it all the time. So having white armour made you really unpopular with the support crew.
    So having "black" armor was hardly notable? No wonder nobody called him "the Black Prince" to his face. OR for centuries afterward.
    At school he'd have been called "Inky" - the fate of Hurree Jamset Ram Singh, who was, indeed, a Black Prince.
    One of the first relevant references is to "Edwardi Principis cog: Nigri". So draw yer own conclusion.

    Anyway, any evidence that the Black Prince was literate, let alone that he was "at school"?

    He was a Prince of the Blood, NOT a scribbling cleric.
  • The Easter stock went out this week. Not sure why anyone cares. Probably something to
    isam said:

    isam said:

    TimS said:

    isam said:


    isam said:

    Easter eggs on sale in Tescos apparently

    That didn't take long !!!!!!

    So? I know some moron Tory MP is tweeting about it, but this isn't news. Easter confectionery lines go into wholesalers in December, Christmas ones in August. Its an expandable consumption category, so if you get products in early you sell more. Some stuff (Creme Eggs, The Big Purple One) would sell all year round.
    I have no idea about a Tory mp tweets and to be fair nearly 60 years ago my family and I owned a newsagents and grocers and we did display Easter eggs in the new year

    I expect it may not surprise many
    I have no problem with you responding to Jake Berry. I have a problem with Jake Berry trying to create another culture wars woke issue with something that happens *every single year*.
    Have you got your culture war/woke issue mixed up? I don’t think people have ever said it was woke to have Easter Eggs in the shops too early, the complaint from that angle is that they’re not called Easter Eggs isn’t it?

    Looking at that Jake Berry video, he’s just saying he surprised Easter Eggs are in shops when Christmas was only last week, hardly attacking anyone for being woke.
    Moaning about Christmas stuff being on sale earlier and earlier is traditional.

    There probably graffiti about that at Pompeii.
    Yes, the political correctness gone mad/woke angle is lack of religious narrative on the eggs, not when they go on sale

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1417088/easter-egg-chocolate-easter-news-political-correctness-allyson-stewart-allen

    We’ve crossed the line now where people defending ‘woke’ are caricatures of the Daily Express readers they think they’re mocking
    Remember how builders talking about their feelings made them ”woke builders”? That wasn’t people defending woke, it was the surely-never-a-self-caricature Daily Mail.
    That wasn’t, but the matter we are talking about now seems to be - why would Easter Eggs going on sale in January be woke? Surely the complaint , if there is one, is that it’s crass commercialisation
    Agree, not a woke issue. But what I find strange is that a 'senior' MP thinks it's worth doing a video about Easter eggs at Tesco in January and tweeting it out.
    Mind you, what do I know, given that it's had 2.7M views.
    The “this isn’t about woke” posts by various people are very naive. This is a culture war post by Berry aimed at winding up people who get wound up by modern life.

    Easter Eggs on New Years Day / It’s not Traditional/ Not like the good old days / I blame the permissive society
    Blimey, you had a long time to try and wriggle out of that, or fess up that you’d mixed up the ‘Not Easter’ Eggs ‘woke’ issue with this one.

    Why would people who are regarded as ‘woke’ be championing the right of Supermarkets to sell Easter Eggs in early January? It doesn’t seem that it should matter either way. You just seem to be writing your own pet hates into it having got the wrong end of the stick, like someone else did with the EU lightbulbs the other day

    The Mirror ran an article moaning about it in mid December & The BBC here quote the Royal Society for Public Health complaining about the practice of early egg sales… so it’s hardly a right wing, culture war, anti woke thing at all

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/money/shoppers-horror-bm-already-selling-31664712

    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-47735108
    It does get difficult when noone has the slightest idea what 'woke' means. Even people who go on about it all the time have completely different examples to offer. Electric cars are 'woke' to many folk but the Blessed Elon wouldn't agree. Frankly if someone on the right fringe of politics decides they don't like Easter eggs in January then that phenomenon automatically becomes woke. To them at least.

    Meanwhile the rest of us, in the real world, haven't got a clue what they are blathering on about.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,815

    Scott_xP said:

    I just caught the first 15 seconds of New Order's music video for True Faith.

    Absolutely hilarious. Comedy "robots" (in stag-do fancy dress) happy slapping each other in time to the snare drum.

    Who influenced who? True Faith the Pet Shop Boys, or the Pet Shop Boys on True Faith?

    The whole thing is spectacular.

    It was conceived by a French dance company, and was intended not to feature the band at all.

    The record company hated it, and spliced in some shots of a live gig. The bass player's leg, and only his leg, appears briefly.
    Have we finally discovered why you're so pro-EU?
    Another interesting New Order video, also on YouTube, is "World (Price of Love)":

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXzs47qy2Pk
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,068

    Ghedebrav said:

    eek said:

    Easter eggs on sale in Tescos apparently

    That didn't take long !!!!!!

    I’m confused why this is news - all supermarkets have a seasonal aisle that will go Christmas, Easter, summer, back to school, Halloween, Christmas

    And the corner shop has had crème eggs from the day the cash and carry got them in (so early December)
    Tbf I don’t see a reason why creme eggs couldn’t be available year round.
    Because it's sacrilegious! Creme eggs should be eaten at Easter, as it says in the Bible! From Matthew 26:

    And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body. And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; for this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. And he took a small chocolate egg, and prayed over it, and gave it to them, saying, Taste ye, for it has some sort of sweet, gooey stuff inside. And, lo, it did have some sort of sweet, gooey stuff inside, which made it look a bit like a real egg.
    And Thomas did say "yea, but you try getting a Kinder Egg thru US customs and they'll crucify you. It's Woke gone mad!". And Jesu did spake "I doubt it Thomas" whilst Judas muttered "Crucify you say? Hmmm"

  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,412

    Andy_JS said:

    Looks like the rain has finally stopped, which is good because about 75% of the roads round here are flooded to some extent.

    This is the new normal.

    Warm and very wet winters.
    I think I'd ban the phrase 'the new normal'. It seems to function as an excuse for spineless politicians and greasy corporates to enforce unpleasant situations on the public with no prospect of abatement.

    We've had a good fiddle with climate this year, banning those maritime fuels, the effect of which was to make temperatures (sea temperatures at any rate) rise significantly. So far I don't think that situation has been reversed or any attempt made to mitigate it, despite various private jet-fuelled junkets. 'Decarbonise' is the only show in town, despite it seeming to have all the impact on climate that housewives donating their pots and pans had on Spitfire production.

    We need creative solutions to optimise the climate, that work quickly, and to be prepared to bug out quickly it they're found not to work. Net Zero is tangential at best in this regard.

    We need geo-engineering solutions to suck carbon back out the atmosphere en-masse, is what we need - and pronto.
    Yes… and that’s why lots of people are working on making these solutions a reality. What I don’t understand is why Luckyguy1983 keeps posting as if no-one is looking into this.
    I am not saying that nobody is 'looking into this'. I have posted on the issue of sea heating caused by maritime fuel regulations (and the resultant lack of cloudiness) specifically, as that was a very bad misstep that required a quick reversal/solution, which I don't think has happened. Finding such solutions is surely exactly the type of thing that things like COP28 style conferences would be useful for, but the participants instead tend to bravely commit their populations to bearing the cost of decarbonisation.
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