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  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 4,930
    Carnyx said:

    Roger said:

    Cleverley to be sacked under cover of Christmas. This gaff isn’t a problem for Sunak, but a huge opportunity. Replacing Mr “Rwanda plan is bat shit crazy” with a right winger will bring back on board many who otherwise in the New Year would have caused him issues. What a gift wrapped opportunity to shore up a weakening flank. This is the reason Cleverley is now toast.

    Nadine Dorries!

    She'll shore up the loony tunes....
    The next Home Secretary should be Baron Johnson of Uxbridge, following his elevation in the New Year honours list. Then it will just be Ms May and Ms Truss to return to the cabinet.
    Still got Mr Major to choose from, too. Presumably his omission is accidental!
    John Major was far too competent to be included with the others.
  • ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    A little more on that communtation: "Just before Christmas in 1921, [President Warren G.] Harding, a conservative and mild-mannered Republican, commuted the 10-year sentence of the Socialist [Eugene] Debs, who had been convicted of violating the Espionage Act of 1917. On Dec. 26, Harding welcomed Debs to the White House, eager to meet him before he returned to civilian life after being released from federal prison in Atlanta.
    . . .
    Though most of his advisers and the first lady argued against the commutation, Harding believed that his use of the pardon power would help heal a divided nation after the deadliest war in world history and a flu pandemic that killed at least 675,000 Americans and tens of millions around the globe.
    . . .
    On the same day he freed Debs, Harding commuted the sentences of 23 other political prisoners, activists and Industrial Workers of the World union members who spoke out against the war."
    source$: https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2022/01/06/warren-harding-eugene-debs/

    Gosh.

    Hadn't the Communists suffered enough in prison without trying to make sense of Harding's garbled efforts at English?
    Harding did far more than his share of bloviation.

    However, he also coined "normalcy" which in the past century has gone from being regarded as mangling the English language, to (methinks) a perfectly respectable English word.

    Speaking as one of the very few - perhaps only - PBer to have paid my person respects at the Tomb of Warren G. Harding.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harding_Tomb

    "I DEEM it a privilege to join here in the dedication of the tomb of Warren G. Harding, 29th President of the United States. . . . He gave his life in worthy accomplishment for his country. He was a man of delicate sense of honor, of sympathetic heart, of transcendent gentleness of soul – who reached out for friendship, who gave of it loyally and generously in his every thought and deed. He was a man of passionate patriotism. He was a man of deep religious feeling. He was devoted to his fellow men. . . ." - Herbert Hoover, June 16, 1931
    'He gave his life in service of his country:' wasn't
    it a heart attack brought on by banging his secretary? Or am I misremembering that bit?
    Not “service” … “worthy accomplishment”.

    May be his secretary was particularly attractive?
    Reasonably attractive methinks. Like I said previously, she became infatuated with Harding when she was a young school girl, and he was middle-age newspaper reporter. As young woman she and he became a thing, but NOT in their hometown, but IIRC in New York, Washington and other eastern cities.

    Note that Harding had already been in hot water with his wife due to his previous affair with a friend and neighbor of theirs, who turned out during WW1 to be a German sympathizer and security risk. And thus a political risk in 1920 when Harding was nominated (via the famous "smoked filled room") for POTUS by Republicans. So much so, that GOP donors paid for an around-the-world tour (or maybe just slow boat to China?) to get her and HER hubby out of the country for duration of the campaign.

    But they did NOT know, apparently, about Nan Britton the younger mistress. Who was clearly yet another member of the infamous British Secret Service?

    Another problematic (in more ways than one) potential political liability the Republicans DID manage to short-circuit in 1920, was book by an Ohio university professor who published book maintaining that Warren G. Harding had a Black grandmother. This just as the 2nd coming of the Ku Klux Klan was beginning from sea to shining sea. IIRC the GOPers got US Postmaster General (a Democrat but also a Southern racist) to ban the book from the mail; and also acquired and mulched virtually all copies.

    Which no doubt assisted Harding in obtaining the greatest popular vote landslide up to that time.
  • Roger said:

    Roger said:

    Roger said:

    Cleverley to be sacked under cover of Christmas. This gaff isn’t a problem for Sunak, but a huge opportunity. Replacing Mr “Rwanda plan is bat shit crazy” with a right winger will bring back on board many who otherwise in the New Year would have caused him issues. What a gift wrapped opportunity to shore up a weakening flank. This is the reason Cleverley is now toast.

    Nadine Dorries!

    She'll shore up the loony tunes....
    The next Home Secretary should be Baron Johnson of Uxbridge, following his elevation in the New Year honours list. Then it will just be Ms May and Ms Truss to return to the cabinet.
    What's the collective noun for ex Tory Prime Ministers?
    Not a noun but still fair comment: postremo primi ministrorum

    For translation, see Boris Johnson.
    Latin?
    Of the google dialect. PLUS what I meant to say was/is

    postremo primi ministrorum torii

    which I'm hoping is a (non-salacious) double entendre.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,413

    Cleverley to be sacked under cover of Christmas. This gaff isn’t a problem for Sunak, but a huge opportunity. Replacing Mr “Rwanda plan is bat shit crazy” with a right winger will bring back on board many who otherwise in the New Year would have caused him issues. What a gift wrapped opportunity to shore up a weakening flank. This is the reason Cleverley is now toast.

    Sunak appointed Stupidly as Home Sec as his heir apparent. That isn't working out too well.

    So that leaves a vacancy as the Not Swivel Eyed candidate for the leadership.
    Oh Sandy. Claire Coutinho the next Chancellor, Is Sunak’s choice for heir apparent and non crazy candidate for leadership. She’ll get it too.
    Glad your sense of humour remains undimmed.
  • Anyone got a view on this Saltburn thing before I decide to revive my Prime membership? Looks like a bit of reheated Brideshead from the Wiki description.
  • The helicopter pilot turned out to be having xmas off then?
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 8,241
    edited December 2023

    Anyone got a view on this Saltburn thing before I decide to revive my Prime membership? Looks like a bit of reheated Brideshead from the Wiki description.

    I very much enjoyed the film.

    The first half is a reheated Brideshead but it then morphs into a different classic in an unexpected way.

    Well executed and interesting, although slightly weak last stanza

    (Worth one month’s subscription to Prime in my view)
  • Penddu2Penddu2 Posts: 689
    edited December 2023
    For those of you who will not be watching Die Hard, I can strongly recommend 'The Golden Hour' on Netflix.

    I can even more strongly NOT recommend 'Obliterated' which is attrocious.....
  • Merry Christmas to all who bet on politics.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 8,241

    Merry Christmas to all who bet on politics.

    And how about people who don’t?

    😳
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,070

    Merry Christmas to all who bet on politics.

    And how about people who don’t?

    😳
    You get a lump of coal in your stocking. Naughty list. Dem's the rules... 😃
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,070

    Anyone got a view on this Saltburn thing before I decide to revive my Prime membership? Looks like a bit of reheated Brideshead from the Wiki description.

    Can't explain the plot without spoilers
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,137
    Pagan2 said:

    A happy xmas to people here with no reservations....we may disagree but no one here are particulary bad people in my view

    I have reservations for tomorrow :-(

    Does this mean I don't get a happy Christmas?
  • Crossword thread's up.
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