"I generally agree. The problem with capitalism - especially with late capitalist consumerism - is that it does nothing to nourish or even assuage the spiritual yearnings of Homo sapiens"
Places that combine capitalism and religiosity tend to work pretty well. Like Idaho for example.
Anywhere where we find Roman Catholic Priests and their Rent Boys/ Hookers?
The graphic is notable for the number of leaders whose All Respondent net ratings fall higher than either the Labour and Conservative dots. Meaning that the non-Lab non-Con respondents, I guess including many non voters, are way off one end.
Varadkar, Abbas and Putin viewed particularly more favourably by other and non-aligneds.
When has a company as important as OpenAI ever simply imploded like this?
Well off the top of my head I can think of Arthur Andersen, RBS, AIG, Enron, Parmalat. There must be dozens like these which are in a completely different league. You never keep things in proportion.
Yes, of course, all those companies were at the very cutting edge of a technology likely to transform human society within a decade. Especially “Parmalat”
And they all happened in a weekend. And they all happened because, rumour has it, some of the board were worried the company was close to creating an alien and superior intelligence that might destroy humanity.
I MEAN, ARE YOU JUST FRIGGING STUPID
RBS nearly broke the UK.
Don’t worry I’m sure RBS will be more successful next time it fails.
I mean we were a few hours from the banks and cash machines running out of money.
The guy who is - was - taking over OpenAI - believes there is a 5-50% chance that AGI will extinguish all humanity and possibly all life
Bad as RBS was, a cash flow issue and a bank run in the UK is somewhat dwarfed by the nullification of all organic consciousness
I'm always dubious about someone who says something like "there is a 5-50% chance" of something happening. A moment's thought will tell you that is a nonsensical way of thinking about the future.
When has a company as important as OpenAI ever simply imploded like this?
Well off the top of my head I can think of Arthur Andersen, RBS, AIG, Enron, Parmalat. There must be dozens like these which are in a completely different league. You never keep things in proportion.
Yes, of course, all those companies were at the very cutting edge of a technology likely to transform human society within a decade. Especially “Parmalat”
And they all happened in a weekend. And they all happened because, rumour has it, some of the board were worried the company was close to creating an alien and superior intelligence that might destroy humanity.
I MEAN, ARE YOU JUST FRIGGING STUPID
RBS nearly broke the UK.
Don’t worry I’m sure RBS will be more successful next time it fails.
I mean we were a few hours from the banks and cash machines running out of money.
The guy who is - was - taking over OpenAI - believes there is a 5-50% chance that AGI will extinguish all humanity and possibly all life
Bad as RBS was, a cash flow issue and a bank run in the UK is somewhat dwarfed by the nullification of all organic consciousness
5-50%? Pah. I can do FAR better than that. I give it a 99.9% chance that in the final stages of hydrogen fusion, our sun will swell and swell, becoming distorted and bloated, and swallow up the inner planets of the solar system, including Earth (or as close to it as makes no practical difference).
Don't tell @leon that, he will panic like mad and go into meltdown.
With the location of Leon's current blundering about and it also being the 60th anniversary of "something has happened in the motorcade" this surely has to be the song right now. Hadn't listened to it for years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KTsXHXMkJA
When has a company as important as OpenAI ever simply imploded like this?
Well off the top of my head I can think of Arthur Andersen, RBS, AIG, Enron, Parmalat. There must be dozens like these which are in a completely different league. You never keep things in proportion.
Yes, of course, all those companies were at the very cutting edge of a technology likely to transform human society within a decade. Especially “Parmalat”
And they all happened in a weekend. And they all happened because, rumour has it, some of the board were worried the company was close to creating an alien and superior intelligence that might destroy humanity.
I MEAN, ARE YOU JUST FRIGGING STUPID
RBS nearly broke the UK.
Don’t worry I’m sure RBS will be more successful next time it fails.
I mean we were a few hours from the banks and cash machines running out of money.
The guy who is - was - taking over OpenAI - believes there is a 5-50% chance that AGI will extinguish all humanity and possibly all life
When has a company as important as OpenAI ever simply imploded like this?
Well off the top of my head I can think of Arthur Andersen, RBS, AIG, Enron, Parmalat. There must be dozens like these which are in a completely different league. You never keep things in proportion.
Yes, of course, all those companies were at the very cutting edge of a technology likely to transform human society within a decade. Especially “Parmalat”
And they all happened in a weekend. And they all happened because, rumour has it, some of the board were worried the company was close to creating an alien and superior intelligence that might destroy humanity.
I MEAN, ARE YOU JUST FRIGGING STUPID
RBS nearly broke the UK.
Don’t worry I’m sure RBS will be more successful next time it fails.
I mean we were a few hours from the banks and cash machines running out of money.
The guy who is - was - taking over OpenAI - believes there is a 5-50% chance that AGI will extinguish all humanity and possibly all life
When has a company as important as OpenAI ever simply imploded like this?
Well off the top of my head I can think of Arthur Andersen, RBS, AIG, Enron, Parmalat. There must be dozens like these which are in a completely different league. You never keep things in proportion.
Yes, of course, all those companies were at the very cutting edge of a technology likely to transform human society within a decade. Especially “Parmalat”
And they all happened in a weekend. And they all happened because, rumour has it, some of the board were worried the company was close to creating an alien and superior intelligence that might destroy humanity.
I MEAN, ARE YOU JUST FRIGGING STUPID
RBS nearly broke the UK.
Don’t worry I’m sure RBS will be more successful next time it fails.
I mean we were a few hours from the banks and cash machines running out of money.
The guy who is - was - taking over OpenAI - believes there is a 5-50% chance that AGI will extinguish all humanity and possibly all life
When has a company as important as OpenAI ever simply imploded like this?
Well off the top of my head I can think of Arthur Andersen, RBS, AIG, Enron, Parmalat. There must be dozens like these which are in a completely different league. You never keep things in proportion.
Yes, of course, all those companies were at the very cutting edge of a technology likely to transform human society within a decade. Especially “Parmalat”
And they all happened in a weekend. And they all happened because, rumour has it, some of the board were worried the company was close to creating an alien and superior intelligence that might destroy humanity.
I MEAN, ARE YOU JUST FRIGGING STUPID
RBS nearly broke the UK.
Don’t worry I’m sure RBS will be more successful next time it fails.
I mean we were a few hours from the banks and cash machines running out of money.
The guy who is - was - taking over OpenAI - believes there is a 5-50% chance that AGI will extinguish all humanity and possibly all life
Ok, I may have cast aspersions on Leon’s acuity previously but he’s spot on about the Bernard Manning thing. Am I being a sap to worry about a politician being called el Loco before they’ve even started?
When has a company as important as OpenAI ever simply imploded like this?
Well off the top of my head I can think of Arthur Andersen, RBS, AIG, Enron, Parmalat. There must be dozens like these which are in a completely different league. You never keep things in proportion.
Yes, of course, all those companies were at the very cutting edge of a technology likely to transform human society within a decade. Especially “Parmalat”
And they all happened in a weekend. And they all happened because, rumour has it, some of the board were worried the company was close to creating an alien and superior intelligence that might destroy humanity.
I MEAN, ARE YOU JUST FRIGGING STUPID
I think that's what happened in your imagination.
The reality - whatever the future prospects* for AI (and I would tend to being a maximalist on this) - is likely far more prosaic.
*Also completely unaffected by the fate of a single company. (Unless you count TSMC.)
These are mere rumours. But they really don’t come from me
“My prediction is that a few weeks ago the team at OpenAI demoed either a machine that showed consciousness or AGI and Sam didn’t immediately tell the board and their feelings were hurt.”
“with sam and greg ousted yesterday my initial thought yesterday was “shit they have discovered AGI” and the only person who was capable of understanding it was ilya sutskever. “
When has a company as important as OpenAI ever simply imploded like this?
Well off the top of my head I can think of Arthur Andersen, RBS, AIG, Enron, Parmalat. There must be dozens like these which are in a completely different league. You never keep things in proportion.
Yes, of course, all those companies were at the very cutting edge of a technology likely to transform human society within a decade. Especially “Parmalat”
And they all happened in a weekend. And they all happened because, rumour has it, some of the board were worried the company was close to creating an alien and superior intelligence that might destroy humanity.
I MEAN, ARE YOU JUST FRIGGING STUPID
RBS nearly broke the UK.
Don’t worry I’m sure RBS will be more successful next time it fails.
I mean we were a few hours from the banks and cash machines running out of money.
The guy who is - was - taking over OpenAI - believes there is a 5-50% chance that AGI will extinguish all humanity and possibly all life
When has a company as important as OpenAI ever simply imploded like this?
Well off the top of my head I can think of Arthur Andersen, RBS, AIG, Enron, Parmalat. There must be dozens like these which are in a completely different league. You never keep things in proportion.
Yes, of course, all those companies were at the very cutting edge of a technology likely to transform human society within a decade. Especially “Parmalat”
And they all happened in a weekend. And they all happened because, rumour has it, some of the board were worried the company was close to creating an alien and superior intelligence that might destroy humanity.
I MEAN, ARE YOU JUST FRIGGING STUPID
RBS nearly broke the UK.
Don’t worry I’m sure RBS will be more successful next time it fails.
I mean we were a few hours from the banks and cash machines running out of money.
The guy who is - was - taking over OpenAI - believes there is a 5-50% chance that AGI will extinguish all humanity and possibly all life
When has a company as important as OpenAI ever simply imploded like this?
Well off the top of my head I can think of Arthur Andersen, RBS, AIG, Enron, Parmalat. There must be dozens like these which are in a completely different league. You never keep things in proportion.
Yes, of course, all those companies were at the very cutting edge of a technology likely to transform human society within a decade. Especially “Parmalat”
And they all happened in a weekend. And they all happened because, rumour has it, some of the board were worried the company was close to creating an alien and superior intelligence that might destroy humanity.
I MEAN, ARE YOU JUST FRIGGING STUPID
RBS nearly broke the UK.
Don’t worry I’m sure RBS will be more successful next time it fails.
I mean we were a few hours from the banks and cash machines running out of money.
The guy who is - was - taking over OpenAI - believes there is a 5-50% chance that AGI will extinguish all humanity and possibly all life
Bad as RBS was, a cash flow issue and a bank run in the UK is somewhat dwarfed by the nullification of all organic consciousness
I'm always dubious about someone who says something like "there is a 5-50% chance" of something happening. A moment's thought will tell you that is a nonsensical way of thinking about the future.
Yes, I tend to agree
My point is more that this is the guy now in charge (we think) of the world’s most important, $100bn AI company. So even if he talks nonsense, this is how they talk
When has a company as important as OpenAI ever simply imploded like this?
Well off the top of my head I can think of Arthur Andersen, RBS, AIG, Enron, Parmalat. There must be dozens like these which are in a completely different league. You never keep things in proportion.
Yes, of course, all those companies were at the very cutting edge of a technology likely to transform human society within a decade. Especially “Parmalat”
And they all happened in a weekend. And they all happened because, rumour has it, some of the board were worried the company was close to creating an alien and superior intelligence that might destroy humanity.
I MEAN, ARE YOU JUST FRIGGING STUPID
RBS nearly broke the UK.
Don’t worry I’m sure RBS will be more successful next time it fails.
I mean we were a few hours from the banks and cash machines running out of money.
The guy who is - was - taking over OpenAI - believes there is a 5-50% chance that AGI will extinguish all humanity and possibly all life
When has a company as important as OpenAI ever simply imploded like this?
Well off the top of my head I can think of Arthur Andersen, RBS, AIG, Enron, Parmalat. There must be dozens like these which are in a completely different league. You never keep things in proportion.
Yes, of course, all those companies were at the very cutting edge of a technology likely to transform human society within a decade. Especially “Parmalat”
And they all happened in a weekend. And they all happened because, rumour has it, some of the board were worried the company was close to creating an alien and superior intelligence that might destroy humanity.
I MEAN, ARE YOU JUST FRIGGING STUPID
RBS nearly broke the UK.
Don’t worry I’m sure RBS will be more successful next time it fails.
I mean we were a few hours from the banks and cash machines running out of money.
The guy who is - was - taking over OpenAI - believes there is a 5-50% chance that AGI will extinguish all humanity and possibly all life
When has a company as important as OpenAI ever simply imploded like this?
Well off the top of my head I can think of Arthur Andersen, RBS, AIG, Enron, Parmalat. There must be dozens like these which are in a completely different league. You never keep things in proportion.
Yes, of course, all those companies were at the very cutting edge of a technology likely to transform human society within a decade. Especially “Parmalat”
And they all happened in a weekend. And they all happened because, rumour has it, some of the board were worried the company was close to creating an alien and superior intelligence that might destroy humanity.
I MEAN, ARE YOU JUST FRIGGING STUPID
RBS nearly broke the UK.
Don’t worry I’m sure RBS will be more successful next time it fails.
I mean we were a few hours from the banks and cash machines running out of money.
The guy who is - was - taking over OpenAI - believes there is a 5-50% chance that AGI will extinguish all humanity and possibly all life
Sir Patrick turns to the “science capability review”, an exercise conducted with Jeremy Heywood, the then Cabinet Secretary, to see if science capability was “adequate” in Government.
He said the exercise also found that the just ten per cent of the Civil Service fast-stream intake had STEM (science, technology, engineering and maths) degrees which he felt “destined the civil service to stay in roughly the same position that it has been for some time”.
For a knowledge led economy this is a disastrous situation. No wonder government knows f##k all about science and technology.
Something Cummings was right about. Statistically, it had to happen.
Big Dom was right about quite a few things. His problem is always the solution, which is normally burn it all down and start again, use AI, data scientists, pay them loads, job done....next problem....
Cummings was a crank whose enthusiasm for big data was unmatched by any understanding of it or its limitations.
I remember when he advertised for other cranks and misfits to join the Civil Service. I can't believe that idea got as far as it did.
When has a company as important as OpenAI ever simply imploded like this?
Well off the top of my head I can think of Arthur Andersen, RBS, AIG, Enron, Parmalat. There must be dozens like these which are in a completely different league. You never keep things in proportion.
Yes, of course, all those companies were at the very cutting edge of a technology likely to transform human society within a decade. Especially “Parmalat”
And they all happened in a weekend. And they all happened because, rumour has it, some of the board were worried the company was close to creating an alien and superior intelligence that might destroy humanity.
I MEAN, ARE YOU JUST FRIGGING STUPID
RBS nearly broke the UK.
Don’t worry I’m sure RBS will be more successful next time it fails.
I mean we were a few hours from the banks and cash machines running out of money.
The guy who is - was - taking over OpenAI - believes there is a 5-50% chance that AGI will extinguish all humanity and possibly all life
When has a company as important as OpenAI ever simply imploded like this?
Well off the top of my head I can think of Arthur Andersen, RBS, AIG, Enron, Parmalat. There must be dozens like these which are in a completely different league. You never keep things in proportion.
Yes, of course, all those companies were at the very cutting edge of a technology likely to transform human society within a decade. Especially “Parmalat”
And they all happened in a weekend. And they all happened because, rumour has it, some of the board were worried the company was close to creating an alien and superior intelligence that might destroy humanity.
I MEAN, ARE YOU JUST FRIGGING STUPID
RBS nearly broke the UK.
Don’t worry I’m sure RBS will be more successful next time it fails.
I mean we were a few hours from the banks and cash machines running out of money.
The guy who is - was - taking over OpenAI - believes there is a 5-50% chance that AGI will extinguish all humanity and possibly all life
Bad as RBS was, a cash flow issue and a bank run in the UK is somewhat dwarfed by the nullification of all organic consciousness
So why are we continuing to develop it in that case?
Many are asking that question. They are called “AI doomers”
Musk is on the doomier side of the equation. 90% of the people on this site are too stupid to even grasp the arguments. Ignore them
"We" are continuing to develop it because "we" aren't one entity who thinks of our collective good but 8 billion individuals, some of whom deem their upside of a medium to high possibility of becoming fantastically rich as worthy of the non-negligible downside of wiping out themselves and all of humanity, especially given that, if one player opts out of the game, the risk only goes away a little bit, and the likelihood of rewards to the other players goes up.
For those interested in game theory, it is absolutely fascinating.
Sir Patrick turns to the “science capability review”, an exercise conducted with Jeremy Heywood, the then Cabinet Secretary, to see if science capability was “adequate” in Government.
He said the exercise also found that the just ten per cent of the Civil Service fast-stream intake had STEM (science, technology, engineering and maths) degrees which he felt “destined the civil service to stay in roughly the same position that it has been for some time”.
For a knowledge led economy this is a disastrous situation. No wonder government knows f##k all about science and technology.
Something Cummings was right about. Statistically, it had to happen.
Big Dom was right about quite a few things. His problem is always the solution, which is normally burn it all down and start again, use AI, data scientists, pay them loads, job done....next problem....
Cummings was a crank whose enthusiasm for big data was unmatched by any understanding of it or its limitations.
I remember when he advertised for other cranks and misfits to join the Civil Service. I can't believe that idea got as far as it did.
Sir Patrick turns to the “science capability review”, an exercise conducted with Jeremy Heywood, the then Cabinet Secretary, to see if science capability was “adequate” in Government.
He said the exercise also found that the just ten per cent of the Civil Service fast-stream intake had STEM (science, technology, engineering and maths) degrees which he felt “destined the civil service to stay in roughly the same position that it has been for some time”.
For a knowledge led economy this is a disastrous situation. No wonder government knows f##k all about science and technology.
Something Cummings was right about. Statistically, it had to happen.
Big Dom was right about quite a few things. His problem is always the solution, which is normally burn it all down and start again, use AI, data scientists, pay them loads, job done....next problem....
Cummings was a crank whose enthusiasm for big data was unmatched by any understanding of it or its limitations.
I remember when he advertised for other cranks and misfits to join the Civil Service. I can't believe that idea got as far as it did.
I wonder if he recruited anyone? And if he did, how many nanoseconds they stayed in post when he left.
When has a company as important as OpenAI ever simply imploded like this?
Well off the top of my head I can think of Arthur Andersen, RBS, AIG, Enron, Parmalat. There must be dozens like these which are in a completely different league. You never keep things in proportion.
Yes, of course, all those companies were at the very cutting edge of a technology likely to transform human society within a decade. Especially “Parmalat”
And they all happened in a weekend. And they all happened because, rumour has it, some of the board were worried the company was close to creating an alien and superior intelligence that might destroy humanity.
I MEAN, ARE YOU JUST FRIGGING STUPID
RBS nearly broke the UK.
Don’t worry I’m sure RBS will be more successful next time it fails.
I mean we were a few hours from the banks and cash machines running out of money.
The guy who is - was - taking over OpenAI - believes there is a 5-50% chance that AGI will extinguish all humanity and possibly all life
Bad as RBS was, a cash flow issue and a bank run in the UK is somewhat dwarfed by the nullification of all organic consciousness
So why are we continuing to develop it in that case?
Many are asking that question. They are called “AI doomers”
Musk is on the doomier side of the equation. 90% of the people on this site are too stupid to even grasp the arguments. Ignore them
"We" are continuing to develop it because "we" aren't one entity who thinks of our collective good but 8 billion individuals, some of whom deem their upside of a medium to high possibility of becoming fantastically rich as worthy of the non-negligible downside of wiping out themselves and all of humanity, especially given that, if one player opts out of the game, the risk only goes away a little bit, and the likelihood of rewards to the other players goes up.
For those interested in game theory, it is absolutely fascinating.
Yes. Cogent and accurate
Then you also have to add in national competition
If America (at present in the lead on A.I.) calls a halt to it, will China do the same? Of course not. It’s like nuclear weapons. Whoever gets them first will dominate the world (and be invulnerable). China would simply seize the chance to leapfrog America and rule us all
So no one can stop. We just have to pray the doomers are wrong or wildly exaggerating
Vallance's diary confirms my deep suspicion that Johnson is completely innumerate. I've always believed that this is why Johnson lies - he genuinely has no concept of quantitative differences and so all answers to a question are equally true to him. It is still genuinely shocking to me what posh white men can get away with in this country.
Sir Patrick turns to the “science capability review”, an exercise conducted with Jeremy Heywood, the then Cabinet Secretary, to see if science capability was “adequate” in Government.
He said the exercise also found that the just ten per cent of the Civil Service fast-stream intake had STEM (science, technology, engineering and maths) degrees which he felt “destined the civil service to stay in roughly the same position that it has been for some time”.
For a knowledge led economy this is a disastrous situation. No wonder government knows f##k all about science and technology.
Something Cummings was right about. Statistically, it had to happen.
Big Dom was right about quite a few things. His problem is always the solution, which is normally burn it all down and start again, use AI, data scientists, pay them loads, job done....next problem....
Cummings was a crank whose enthusiasm for big data was unmatched by any understanding of it or its limitations.
I remember when he advertised for other cranks and misfits to join the Civil Service. I can't believe that idea got as far as it did.
I wonder if he recruited anyone? And if he did, how many nanoseconds they stayed in post when he left.
When has a company as important as OpenAI ever simply imploded like this?
Well off the top of my head I can think of Arthur Andersen, RBS, AIG, Enron, Parmalat. There must be dozens like these which are in a completely different league. You never keep things in proportion.
Yes, of course, all those companies were at the very cutting edge of a technology likely to transform human society within a decade. Especially “Parmalat”
And they all happened in a weekend. And they all happened because, rumour has it, some of the board were worried the company was close to creating an alien and superior intelligence that might destroy humanity.
I MEAN, ARE YOU JUST FRIGGING STUPID
I think that's what happened in your imagination.
The reality - whatever the future prospects* for AI (and I would tend to being a maximalist on this) - is likely far more prosaic.
*Also completely unaffected by the fate of a single company. (Unless you count TSMC.)
These are mere rumours. But they really don’t come from me
“My prediction is that a few weeks ago the team at OpenAI demoed either a machine that showed consciousness or AGI and Sam didn’t immediately tell the board and their feelings were hurt.”
“with sam and greg ousted yesterday my initial thought yesterday was “shit they have discovered AGI” and the only person who was capable of understanding it was ilya sutskever. “
Have you read Ted Chiang's Exhalation collection of short stories. He has a very interesting one on a kind of Neopets (maybe outing my age here) AGI and the difficulty of actually getting anything useful out of an AGI, given the limitations of Natural Intelligence.
Chiang has an interesting perspective on OpenAI, too.
When has a company as important as OpenAI ever simply imploded like this?
Well off the top of my head I can think of Arthur Andersen, RBS, AIG, Enron, Parmalat. There must be dozens like these which are in a completely different league. You never keep things in proportion.
Yes, of course, all those companies were at the very cutting edge of a technology likely to transform human society within a decade. Especially “Parmalat”
And they all happened in a weekend. And they all happened because, rumour has it, some of the board were worried the company was close to creating an alien and superior intelligence that might destroy humanity.
I MEAN, ARE YOU JUST FRIGGING STUPID
RBS nearly broke the UK.
Don’t worry I’m sure RBS will be more successful next time it fails.
I mean we were a few hours from the banks and cash machines running out of money.
The guy who is - was - taking over OpenAI - believes there is a 5-50% chance that AGI will extinguish all humanity and possibly all life
When has a company as important as OpenAI ever simply imploded like this?
Well off the top of my head I can think of Arthur Andersen, RBS, AIG, Enron, Parmalat. There must be dozens like these which are in a completely different league. You never keep things in proportion.
Yes, of course, all those companies were at the very cutting edge of a technology likely to transform human society within a decade. Especially “Parmalat”
And they all happened in a weekend. And they all happened because, rumour has it, some of the board were worried the company was close to creating an alien and superior intelligence that might destroy humanity.
I MEAN, ARE YOU JUST FRIGGING STUPID
RBS nearly broke the UK.
Don’t worry I’m sure RBS will be more successful next time it fails.
I mean we were a few hours from the banks and cash machines running out of money.
The guy who is - was - taking over OpenAI - believes there is a 5-50% chance that AGI will extinguish all humanity and possibly all life
Bad as RBS was, a cash flow issue and a bank run in the UK is somewhat dwarfed by the nullification of all organic consciousness
I'm always dubious about someone who says something like "there is a 5-50% chance" of something happening. A moment's thought will tell you that is a nonsensical way of thinking about the future.
Yes. It may be non punters shorthand for "There are two ways of looking at this, and both are equally possible and mutually exclusive. One route gives you a 5% chance of X and the other route gives you a 50% chance of X. We don't know which of these only two possible routes is true.
When has a company as important as OpenAI ever simply imploded like this?
Well off the top of my head I can think of Arthur Andersen, RBS, AIG, Enron, Parmalat. There must be dozens like these which are in a completely different league. You never keep things in proportion.
Yes, of course, all those companies were at the very cutting edge of a technology likely to transform human society within a decade. Especially “Parmalat”
And they all happened in a weekend. And they all happened because, rumour has it, some of the board were worried the company was close to creating an alien and superior intelligence that might destroy humanity.
I MEAN, ARE YOU JUST FRIGGING STUPID
RBS nearly broke the UK.
Don’t worry I’m sure RBS will be more successful next time it fails.
I mean we were a few hours from the banks and cash machines running out of money.
The guy who is - was - taking over OpenAI - believes there is a 5-50% chance that AGI will extinguish all humanity and possibly all life
Bad as RBS was, a cash flow issue and a bank run in the UK is somewhat dwarfed by the nullification of all organic consciousness
Hyperbole.
It’s all fart and no follow through just like What.Three.Words
I think I missed the What3Words drama on here, I see it referenced a lot, can someone explain it to me?
@Leon was convinced that What3Words was a revolutionary thing that would change the world. He also thinks that about aliens, AI, and HobNobs. He was wrong of course. Except about the HobNobs, which even now are driving other confectionary into extinction.[1]
When has a company as important as OpenAI ever simply imploded like this?
Well off the top of my head I can think of Arthur Andersen, RBS, AIG, Enron, Parmalat. There must be dozens like these which are in a completely different league. You never keep things in proportion.
Yes, of course, all those companies were at the very cutting edge of a technology likely to transform human society within a decade. Especially “Parmalat”
And they all happened in a weekend. And they all happened because, rumour has it, some of the board were worried the company was close to creating an alien and superior intelligence that might destroy humanity.
I MEAN, ARE YOU JUST FRIGGING STUPID
RBS nearly broke the UK.
Don’t worry I’m sure RBS will be more successful next time it fails.
I mean we were a few hours from the banks and cash machines running out of money.
The guy who is - was - taking over OpenAI - believes there is a 5-50% chance that AGI will extinguish all humanity and possibly all life
Bad as RBS was, a cash flow issue and a bank run in the UK is somewhat dwarfed by the nullification of all organic consciousness
So why are we continuing to develop it in that case?
Many are asking that question. They are called “AI doomers”
Musk is on the doomier side of the equation. 90% of the people on this site are too stupid to even grasp the arguments. Ignore them
What is the mechanism for AGI wiping out humanity? I assume you are going down the Terminator route? otherwise can we not just, you know, turn off the leccy?
Vallance's diary confirms my deep suspicion that Johnson is completely innumerate. I've always believed that this is why Johnson lies - he genuinely has no concept of quantitative differences and so all answers to a question are equally true to him. It is still genuinely shocking to me what posh white men can get away with in this country.
He really is a heartless buffoon. See Mark Drakeford's richly intoned and unintentionally hilarious "oh, isn't he awful" mic on moment...
Vallance's diary confirms my deep suspicion that Johnson is completely innumerate. I've always believed that this is why Johnson lies - he genuinely has no concept of quantitative differences and so all answers to a question are equally true to him. It is still genuinely shocking to me what posh white men can get away with in this country.
I agree about Johnson but I don't know what posh white men in general have got to do with it.
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Varadkar, Abbas and Putin viewed particularly more favourably by other and non-aligneds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KTsXHXMkJA
“My prediction is that a few weeks ago the team at OpenAI demoed either a machine that showed consciousness or AGI and Sam didn’t immediately tell the board and their feelings were hurt.”
https://x.com/dsiroker/status/1725880462092959918?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw
https://x.com/linusekenstam/status/1725841218431598610?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw
“with sam and greg ousted yesterday
my initial thought yesterday was “shit they have discovered AGI” and the only person who was capable of understanding it was ilya sutskever. “
Still not his worst prediction of 2022.
My point is more that this is the guy now in charge (we think) of the world’s most important, $100bn AI company. So even if he talks nonsense, this is how they talk
Musk is on the doomier side of the equation. 90% of the people on this site are too stupid to even grasp the arguments. Ignore them
I remember when he advertised for other cranks and misfits to join the Civil Service. I can't believe that idea got as far as it did.
For those interested in game theory, it is absolutely fascinating.
Then you also have to add in national competition
If America (at present in the lead on A.I.) calls a halt to it, will China do the same? Of course not. It’s like nuclear weapons. Whoever gets them first will dominate the world (and be invulnerable). China would simply seize the chance to leapfrog America and rule us all
So no one can stop. We just have to pray the doomers are wrong or wildly exaggerating
It is still genuinely shocking to me what posh white men can get away with in this country.
@IDF
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"As the world celebrates #WorldChildrensDay , 40 children are being held hostage by terrorists in Gaza.
Children who had their innocence ripped away from them."
Rest of the World
As the world celebrates #InternationalChildrensDay, 500-700 children are being held hostage yearly in illegal detention by Israel.
Children who had their innocence ripped away from them.
And
As the world celebrates #InternationalChildrensDay over 4,000 children have been killed by Israel in the last month.
Not only have they had their innocence ripped away from them they are f*****g dead slaughtered by the @IDF
#ceasefirenow
Chiang has an interesting perspective on OpenAI, too.
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Tomorrow @ScottishLabour will vote for an immediate ceasefire.
Here I explain why and what I believe needs to happen to make it a reality.
[1] Cadbury's cancelled Caramac yesterday. Yes, really.