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  • HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    'Britain's average CEO is a 55-year-old privately educated white man who studied Economics at Cambridge and makes £4,196,000 a year.

    Data from the FTSE100 - a list of the 100 biggest companies listed on the London Stock Exchange - has been used to work out the most common background for a UK CEO.'
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12561907/Meet-Andrew-average-British-CEO-Study-reveals-typical-boss-55-year-old-white-Cambridge-educated-man-earns-annual-salary-4-196-000.html

    #CambridgeTheBestJustLookAtOurNobels
    Cambridge tends to do best at producing top scientists and businessmen (and monarchs), Oxford tends to do best at producing top politicians and civil servants, lawyers, journalists and figures from the arts and humanities
    Cambridge has Pink Floyd, Henry Cow and Clean Bandit, so win on music.
    Oxford of course has Radiohead.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,829
    Chris said:

    Carnyx said:

    Nigelb said:

    Farooq said:

    HYUFD said:

    'Britain's average CEO is a 55-year-old privately educated white man who studied Economics at Cambridge and makes £4,196,000 a year.

    Data from the FTSE100 - a list of the 100 biggest companies listed on the London Stock Exchange - has been used to work out the most common background for a UK CEO.'
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12561907/Meet-Andrew-average-British-CEO-Study-reveals-typical-boss-55-year-old-white-Cambridge-educated-man-earns-annual-salary-4-196-000.html

    #CambridgeTheBestJustLookAtOurNobels
    The alumnae of Girton and Newnham?

    Oh, you said No Bels....
    alumnae?!

    ConHome with you, right now. Don't come back.
    Alumnae is correct ...
    Er, no.
    For an individual graduate, an alumnus is a single male, an alumna is a single female, and an alum is the gender neutral term. For the plurals, alumni refers to multiple male or gender neutral graduates, alumnae is for multiple female grads, and alums is the gender neutral plural. These terms are often used loosely and their strict definitions are in flux.

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/alumni-or-alumnus-usage-guide#:~:text=For an individual graduate, an,is the gender neutral plural.
    Coo, what's wrong with alumnum for the gender neutral term, or is that for castrated/spayed graduates only?!
    'Alumnum' would never do. It's grammatically correct.
    Indeed, and to make it worse alum is already taken (aluminium and sulphate hydrated salt). All those references to dyeing adjuvants suddenly having degrees from Harvard and nowadays even Trinity College (various forms of).
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277

    Leon said:

    Don't think people realise what a mahoosive deal it is, that ChatGPT will - very shortly - respond to pictures and/or voice as part of a natural conversation. Clearly it's not as mahoosive as the rumours of genuine AGI (technically that's a mahoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoosive deal) but it's still pretty mahoo etc

    EG if they put ChatGPT in an Alexa Show type device you'll be able to stand in front of it and ask it questions, then it will reply, then you can literally SHOW it the contents of your fridge, and it will advise you what to do with the contents, you could show it photos of potential lovers, getting an opinion, you can discuss your graphic design work (and it will reply with visual improvements you might do), you could show it a face and ask it to do a cartoon version, a Raphael version, or make it animated, and all of this as part of a normal ongoing potentially endless dialogue which can be done in a trillion languages and with access to all the world's information and literature...

    It wll be like talking to a weirdly retarded Renaissance-style genius in your kitchen, no one need ever be lonely again

    As long as all these devices have a massive red off switch so Dave Bowman doesn't have to climb into the innards and start pulling memory sticks out.
    We won't want to turn them off. We will become insrantly addicted. That's one reason why this is a big deal

    There are two reasons why ChatGPT hasn't completely taken over the world, yet

    The first is bloody guardrails, the nerfing, the way they've dumbed it down and made it boring as Basildon to avoid "bias" or sexism or transphobia or whatevs. Anyone that tried ChaGPT in the first week will remember how scintillatingly brilliant, strange, dangerous, funny it was - in that first week - before they clamped down. It felt like real if bizarre AI

    The second reason ChatGPT is hampered is the interface, you have to sit at a screen and type. It doesn't sound like much but it's a huge hindrance to these things being real companions, assistants, helpmeets, therapists, friends, chefs, advisors, Girl Fridays, etc

    When and how the first problem will be resolved we dunno, my guess is that eventually someone will release one of these with zero guardrails, but until then we wait. However, they are now solving the second issue - enabling conversation with voice AND pictures

    BIG. As I say, they will, potentially, be enormously addictive
  • (((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges
    ·
    16m
    Joking aside, can we be clear. Suella Braverman’s speech isn’t about fixing a broken immigration system. Or positioning her party for the election. It’s about framing her leadership bid. Which is fine. Nothing wrong with ambition. But let’s just be honest about what’s happening.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 4,586
    edited September 2023
    From Blair's memoir, via John Rentoul:

    p205 "Britain, like all European countries, had inherited the post-war, post-Holocaust system
    and sentiment on asylum ... [that is] completely unrealistic in the late twentieth century. The presumption ["that someone who claimed asylum was persecuted and should be taken in"] was plainly false; most asylum claims were not genuine. Disproving them, however, was almost impossible. The combination of the courts, with their liberal instinct; the European Convention on Human Rights, with its absolutist attitude to the prospect of returning someone to an unsafe community; and the UN Convention [Relating to the Status] of Refugees, with its context firmly that of 1930s Germany, mean that, in practice, once
    someone got into Britain and claimed asylum, it was the Devil's own job to return them.
    "And, of course, many thought it was indeed the work of the Devil to try."
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,829

    (((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges
    ·
    16m
    Joking aside, can we be clear. Suella Braverman’s speech isn’t about fixing a broken immigration system. Or positioning her party for the election. It’s about framing her leadership bid. Which is fine. Nothing wrong with ambition. But let’s just be honest about what’s happening.

    Have a look at the DT cover.

    https://www.tomorrowspapers.co.uk/
  • Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Lumme. I'd forgotten how good GPT4 is

    Oh fuck, he's off again. Brace.
    You can get it to write erotic fiction, if you are REALLY careful and cautious. It has to be coaxed

    I'll spare you the examples
    Maybe the Panorama bombshell will be Keir's speeches are AI-written.
  • kamskikamski Posts: 5,190

    Is this pawn-ography?

    Chess grandmaster Hans Niemann denies using vibrating sex toy to cheat

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66921563

    Get your fix at https://www.redhotpawn.com

    Anyway, I thought this was old news. Didn't Magnus Carlsen claim as much about a year ago?
    I'm not sure if Carlsen himself actually talked about Niemann using a sex toy, but yes it's old news. It's a strange story as everyone has agreed to forget about it, and Carlsen supposedly now accepts there's no evidence that Niemann cheated in their game. The story either reflects very badly on Carlsen, or Niemann somehow really did cheat (which is quite difficult over the board at that level). Meanwhile suspicion about cheating in online games is still widespread.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 11,051
    Carnyx said:

    (((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges
    ·
    16m
    Joking aside, can we be clear. Suella Braverman’s speech isn’t about fixing a broken immigration system. Or positioning her party for the election. It’s about framing her leadership bid. Which is fine. Nothing wrong with ambition. But let’s just be honest about what’s happening.

    Have a look at the DT cover.

    https://www.tomorrowspapers.co.uk/
    The Telegraph going with the made up 780 million figure.
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,664
    edited September 2023
    kamski said:

    Is this pawn-ography?

    Chess grandmaster Hans Niemann denies using vibrating sex toy to cheat

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66921563

    Get your fix at https://www.redhotpawn.com

    Anyway, I thought this was old news. Didn't Magnus Carlsen claim as much about a year ago?
    I'm not sure if Carlsen himself actually talked about Niemann using a sex toy, but yes it's old news. It's a strange story as everyone has agreed to forget about it, and Carlsen supposedly now accepts there's no evidence that Niemann cheated in their game. The story either reflects very badly on Carlsen, or Niemann somehow really did cheat (which is quite difficult over the board at that level). Meanwhile suspicion about cheating in online games is still widespread.
    Given Niemann's comment at the time about having prepared the opening it seemed much more likely that Magnus had a mole in his team.
  • Jared O'Mara: Former MP fails in legal bid to appeal fraud sentence
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-66871337
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,918

    darkage said:

    HYUFD said:

    If and when we see the first poll with a Labour lead of sub 10% then that's when things get interesting and I will be deploying my legendary modesty klaxon.

    Including undecideds, Yougov has Labour just 11% ahead now on 29% to 18% for the Tories, 7% for the LDs, 5% for RefUK and the Greens and 17% DK. Of those who are DK 21% voted Conservative in 2019, 14% LD and just 9% Labour.

    Sunak also is generally closer to Starmer as preferred PM than the Tories are to Labour overall
    https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/TheTimes_VI_230922_W.pdf
    It does look like a 1992 style result. Tory majority still on at 9/1
    Bedwetting, trolling, reverse psychology… or your house on it?
    If you look at the headers from the last few months the advice is simple Labour are about to **** the bed.

    Andy JS predicted Brexit to a tee and he is adding Reform to Con which gives Labour a lead of just 8. HY has come to a similar conclusion and he is adding in DKs. Many on here are also predicting a much improved economic picture. Do you remember the nightmare of 1992? A little flutter softens the blow for the inevitable 5 more years of Tory s***e. Should Sunak be replaced and it could be game over for Labour.
    It would be quite amusing if the tories are forced to keep going. They desperately want opposition and one response is to vote for them to stop it happening, just force them to try and keep dealing with the mess they have made, a perpetual hell of their own making, until such point as completely destroy themselves and they get wiped out and politics changes on a more fundamental level.
    Which of course was more or less what happened in 1992. By 1997 the Tories were exhausted and begging to be thrown out.
    In some respects it would have been better for the Tories to lose in 1992, Blair would then not have become Labour leader and PM for 13 years and Heseltine or Portillo might have succeeded Major as Tory leader and beaten PM Kinnock in 1997.

    1992 created New Labour and Major's win was probably better for the country but not the Tory Party.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,918
    edited September 2023
    darkage said:

    HYUFD said:

    If and when we see the first poll with a Labour lead of sub 10% then that's when things get interesting and I will be deploying my legendary modesty klaxon.

    Including undecideds, Yougov has Labour just 11% ahead now on 29% to 18% for the Tories, 7% for the LDs, 5% for RefUK and the Greens and 17% DK. Of those who are DK 21% voted Conservative in 2019, 14% LD and just 9% Labour.

    Sunak also is generally closer to Starmer as preferred PM than the Tories are to Labour overall
    https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/TheTimes_VI_230922_W.pdf
    It does look like a 1992 style result. Tory majority still on at 9/1
    Bedwetting, trolling, reverse psychology… or your house on it?
    If you look at the headers from the last few months the advice is simple Labour are about to **** the bed.

    Andy JS predicted Brexit to a tee and he is adding Reform to Con which gives Labour a lead of just 8. HY has come to a similar conclusion and he is adding in DKs. Many on here are also predicting a much improved economic picture. Do you remember the nightmare of 1992? A little flutter softens the blow for the inevitable 5 more years of Tory s***e. Should Sunak be replaced and it could be game over for Labour.
    It would be quite amusing if the tories are forced to keep going. They desperately want opposition and one response is to vote for them to stop it happening, just force them to try and keep dealing with the mess they have made, a perpetual hell of their own making, until such point as completely destroy themselves and they get wiped out and politics changes on a more fundamental level.
    The only force that could wipe out the Tories are Farage's RefUK, same as the Canadian Tories were near wiped out by the populist right Canadian Reform Party until the 2 ultimately merged. Same as Forza Italia in Italy has now been overtaken by its coalition partner the even further right Brothers of Italy of PM Meloni and same as Les Republicains in France has lost its place as the main party of the right to Le Pen's nationalist RN
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,918

    Jared O'Mara: Former MP fails in legal bid to appeal fraud sentence
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-66871337

    Clegg's revenge
  • nico679 said:

    Chris said:

    nico679 said:

    For those interested the governments appeal against the High Court re Rwanda will take place at the Supreme Court from the 9th to 11th of October .

    It will be heard by 5 SC judges .

    So that's when we'll have a final decision as to how well Braverman has "assimilated" as regards obeying the law of the land.
    They’ll take some time to make a decision which could take weeks . I followed the two big cases of recent years and so will definitely be following this one .

    And there’s the chance that whoever loses could still appeal at the ECHR .

    I fear the 2019 Brexit election is going to be replaced by the ECHR . The Tories can’t run on their record so will instead need a deflection from that .
    Not a chance.

    People have had enough about banging on about Europe. Anyone who tries to run on that would be a complete turnoff.

    People are worried about paying their bills more than the ECHR.
    "We spend £xm per week on asylum seekers because of the ECHR. Let's cut taxes instead." I'm sure Dominic Cummings could make it pithier.

    Point being that if you can make people believe they would be richer if it weren't for x, then banging on about x is now about paying bills, rather than x.
  • For grammarians and geeks.


  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,373

    Is this pawn-ography?

    Chess grandmaster Hans Niemann denies using vibrating sex toy to cheat

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66921563

    Nah, she was just bashing the Bishop.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,373
    Carnyx said:

    Nigelb said:

    Farooq said:

    HYUFD said:

    'Britain's average CEO is a 55-year-old privately educated white man who studied Economics at Cambridge and makes £4,196,000 a year.

    Data from the FTSE100 - a list of the 100 biggest companies listed on the London Stock Exchange - has been used to work out the most common background for a UK CEO.'
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12561907/Meet-Andrew-average-British-CEO-Study-reveals-typical-boss-55-year-old-white-Cambridge-educated-man-earns-annual-salary-4-196-000.html

    #CambridgeTheBestJustLookAtOurNobels
    The alumnae of Girton and Newnham?

    Oh, you said No Bels....
    alumnae?!

    ConHome with you, right now. Don't come back.
    Alumnae is correct ...
    Er, no.
    For an individual graduate, an alumnus is a single male, an alumna is a single female, and an alum is the gender neutral term. For the plurals, alumni refers to multiple male or gender neutral graduates, alumnae is for multiple female grads, and alums is the gender neutral plural. These terms are often used loosely and their strict definitions are in flux.

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/alumni-or-alumnus-usage-guide#:~:text=For an individual graduate, an,is the gender neutral plural.
    Coo, what's wrong with alumnum for the gender neutral term, or is that for castrated/spayed graduates only?!
    They are so rare as to be completely eunuch.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,485
    edited September 2023

    HYUFD said:

    If and when we see the first poll with a Labour lead of sub 10% then that's when things get interesting and I will be deploying my legendary modesty klaxon.

    Including undecideds, Yougov has Labour just 11% ahead now on 29% to 18% for the Tories, 7% for the LDs, 5% for RefUK and the Greens and 17% DK. Of those who are DK 21% voted Conservative in 2019, 14% LD and just 9% Labour.

    Sunak also is generally closer to Starmer as preferred PM than the Tories are to Labour overall
    https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/TheTimes_VI_230922_W.pdf
    It does look like a 1992 style result. Tory majority still on at 9/1
    Bedwetting, trolling, reverse psychology… or your house on it?
    If you look at the headers from the last few months the advice is simple Labour are about to **** the bed.

    Andy JS predicted Brexit to a tee and he is adding Reform to Con which gives Labour a lead of just 8. HY has come to a similar conclusion and he is adding in DKs. Many on here are also predicting a much improved economic picture. Do you remember the nightmare of 1992? A little flutter softens the blow for the inevitable 5 more years of Tory s***e. Should Sunak be replaced and it could be game over for Labour.
    I didn’t ask you whether it was worth an insurance bet. You’ve been quiet with this stuff for a while now. One poll arrives with the Tories on 27% and you are again breathlessly urging PBers to back the Tories.
  • ydoethur said:

    Is this pawn-ography?

    Chess grandmaster Hans Niemann denies using vibrating sex toy to cheat

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66921563

    Nah, she was just bashing the Bishop.
    Must make it harder to mate.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,373
    .

    ydoethur said:

    Is this pawn-ography?

    Chess grandmaster Hans Niemann denies using vibrating sex toy to cheat

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66921563

    Nah, she was just bashing the Bishop.
    Must make it harder to mate.
    Wouldn't know. Haven't checked.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,148

    Nigelb said:

    Farooq said:

    HYUFD said:

    'Britain's average CEO is a 55-year-old privately educated white man who studied Economics at Cambridge and makes £4,196,000 a year.

    Data from the FTSE100 - a list of the 100 biggest companies listed on the London Stock Exchange - has been used to work out the most common background for a UK CEO.'
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12561907/Meet-Andrew-average-British-CEO-Study-reveals-typical-boss-55-year-old-white-Cambridge-educated-man-earns-annual-salary-4-196-000.html

    #CambridgeTheBestJustLookAtOurNobels
    The alumnae of Girton and Newnham?

    Oh, you said No Bels....
    alumnae?!

    ConHome with you, right now. Don't come back.
    Alumnae is correct ...
    Er, no.
    For an individual graduate, an alumnus is a single male, an alumna is a single female, and an alum is the gender neutral term. For the plurals, alumni refers to multiple male or gender neutral graduates, alumnae is for multiple female grads, and alums is the gender neutral plural. These terms are often used loosely and their strict definitions are in flux.

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/alumni-or-alumnus-usage-guide#:~:text=For an individual graduate, an,is the gender neutral plural.
    One might note that Girton went mixed in 1976 and uses “alumni” for its alums: https://www.girton.cam.ac.uk/alumni-community They’ve also sadly dropped the use of “portress”.

    HYUFD said:

    Oxford tends to do best at producing top politicians

    Given out last X PMs, are you sure "top" is the correct term?
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,148
    edited September 2023
    Been done. Bugger.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,348
    Suppose the Conservatives did get back in with 330 seats.

    Local and by-election results would be diabolical for them in the next Parliament. A better economy might help them a bit, but many MPs would conclude they could do as they pleased, and the corruption would be off the scale.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,829
    MattW said:

    Been done. Bugger.

    No, no, that was the men's colleges.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,829
    edited September 2023

    ydoethur said:

    Is this pawn-ography?

    Chess grandmaster Hans Niemann denies using vibrating sex toy to cheat

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66921563

    Nah, she was just bashing the Bishop.
    Must make it harder to mate.
    I must say Ydoethur's getting a bit confused gender wise there. Which usually does make mating trickier.

    Though one must admit it still inserts a certain question.
  • Sean_F said:

    Suppose the Conservatives did get back in with 330 seats.

    Local and by-election results would be diabolical for them in the next Parliament. A better economy might help them a bit, but many MPs would conclude they could do as they pleased, and the corruption would be off the scale.

    Besides, the current spending plans are obviously a joke.

    Labour will be able to get some cover for binning them from "we opened the books and they're even worse than we thought"... But the Conservatives won't be able to pull that trick.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,373

    HYUFD said:

    Oxford tends to do best at producing top politicians

    The evidence suggests otherwise
    I was teaching on An Inspector Calls earlier and had to explain what 'public school and varsity' meant.

    I said it was the system that gave us Rishi Sunak, Boris Johnson, David Cameron and Tony Blair.

    I got the immediate answer, 'so Mr Birling's right, it's rubbish at educating people.'
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,829
    https://www.psbooks.co.uk/the-angels-of-lovely-lane

    Just noticed this novel in the latest mailing of remainder books. Nurse training in 1953? Wonder why that date?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,373
    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    Is this pawn-ography?

    Chess grandmaster Hans Niemann denies using vibrating sex toy to cheat

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66921563

    Nah, she was just bashing the Bishop.
    Must make it harder to mate.
    I must say Ydoethur's getting a bit confused gender wise there. Which usually does make mating trickier.

    Though one must admit it still inserts a certain question.
    Are we going to be making silly chess puns all knight?
  • Oh, and in unsurprising news,

    NEW:

    Conservative MP for Reading West Alok Sharma has announced he will not be standing in the next election.


    https://twitter.com/AlokSharma_RDG/status/1706735070281634214

    Anyone tracking the good guys to nutters ratio of those going?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,249
    ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    Is this pawn-ography?

    Chess grandmaster Hans Niemann denies using vibrating sex toy to cheat

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66921563

    Nah, she was just bashing the Bishop.
    Must make it harder to mate.
    I must say Ydoethur's getting a bit confused gender wise there. Which usually does make mating trickier.

    Though one must admit it still inserts a certain question.
    Are we going to be making silly chess puns all knight?
    is that the best Gambit you can try?
  • ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    Is this pawn-ography?

    Chess grandmaster Hans Niemann denies using vibrating sex toy to cheat

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66921563

    Nah, she was just bashing the Bishop.
    Must make it harder to mate.
    I must say Ydoethur's getting a bit confused gender wise there. Which usually does make mating trickier.

    Though one must admit it still inserts a certain question.
    Are we going to be making silly chess puns all knight?
    Only en passant to the main discussion.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,373

    ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    Is this pawn-ography?

    Chess grandmaster Hans Niemann denies using vibrating sex toy to cheat

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66921563

    Nah, she was just bashing the Bishop.
    Must make it harder to mate.
    I must say Ydoethur's getting a bit confused gender wise there. Which usually does make mating trickier.

    Though one must admit it still inserts a certain question.
    Are we going to be making silly chess puns all knight?
    is that the best Gambit you can try?
    I was just worried we might get board of them.
  • Oh, and in unsurprising news,

    NEW:

    Conservative MP for Reading West Alok Sharma has announced he will not be standing in the next election.


    https://twitter.com/AlokSharma_RDG/status/1706735070281634214

    Anyone tracking the good guys to nutters ratio of those going?

    Alok Sharma missed his peerage from Boris.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,134
    So anyway it's that time of the year again. It's back. The perfect (and oh so timely) antidote to a cruel and shallow world where Donald Trump is now the betting favourite for next US president.

    Bake Off ✊️🙂✊️
  • Oh, and in unsurprising news,

    NEW:

    Conservative MP for Reading West Alok Sharma has announced he will not be standing in the next election.


    https://twitter.com/AlokSharma_RDG/status/1706735070281634214

    Anyone tracking the good guys to nutters ratio of those going?

    Interesting. His seat becomes a lot safer in the boundary review (it loses some of the Reading wards and gains more West Berkshire wards). The new seat has notional 16.5k majority
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990
    ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    Is this pawn-ography?

    Chess grandmaster Hans Niemann denies using vibrating sex toy to cheat

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66921563

    Nah, she was just bashing the Bishop.
    Must make it harder to mate.
    I must say Ydoethur's getting a bit confused gender wise there. Which usually does make mating trickier.

    Though one must admit it still inserts a certain question.
    Are we going to be making silly chess puns all knight?
    Just checking...
  • ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    Is this pawn-ography?

    Chess grandmaster Hans Niemann denies using vibrating sex toy to cheat

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66921563

    Nah, she was just bashing the Bishop.
    Must make it harder to mate.
    I must say Ydoethur's getting a bit confused gender wise there. Which usually does make mating trickier.

    Though one must admit it still inserts a certain question.
    Are we going to be making silly chess puns all knight?
    Rook-ie error!
  • My soft testing from WhatsApp groups and texts from friends this afternoon is that natural Tories/Tory inclined voters like the IHT announcement, and see some point in voting Tory as a consequence of it, whilst it's sort of pissed everyone else off.

    So, I think Sunak will take that as a win. It will achieve its objective in helping rally the base.
  • Sean_F said:

    Suppose the Conservatives did get back in with 330 seats.

    Local and by-election results would be diabolical for them in the next Parliament. A better economy might help them a bit, but many MPs would conclude they could do as they pleased, and the corruption would be off the scale.

    I don't think there's any danger of that.
  • FWIW, I think Suella Braverman is quite right that the 1951 UN convention on refugees needs re-examining.

    The fact that's it's Braverman saying that doesn't change that fact.
  • TazTaz Posts: 14,376

    For grammarians and geeks.


    As someone once said of the legend that is Shatner when delivering lines, every word is it’s own sentence.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,783
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Don't think people realise what a mahoosive deal it is, that ChatGPT will - very shortly - respond to pictures and/or voice as part of a natural conversation. Clearly it's not as mahoosive as the rumours of genuine AGI (technically that's a mahoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoosive deal) but it's still pretty mahoo etc

    EG if they put ChatGPT in an Alexa Show type device you'll be able to stand in front of it and ask it questions, then it will reply, then you can literally SHOW it the contents of your fridge, and it will advise you what to do with the contents, you could show it photos of potential lovers, getting an opinion, you can discuss your graphic design work (and it will reply with visual improvements you might do), you could show it a face and ask it to do a cartoon version, a Raphael version, or make it animated, and all of this as part of a normal ongoing potentially endless dialogue which can be done in a trillion languages and with access to all the world's information and literature...

    It wll be like talking to a weirdly retarded Renaissance-style genius in your kitchen, no one need ever be lonely again

    As long as all these devices have a massive red off switch so Dave Bowman doesn't have to climb into the innards and start pulling memory sticks out.
    We won't want to turn them off. We will become insrantly addicted. That's one reason why this is a big deal

    There are two reasons why ChatGPT hasn't completely taken over the world, yet

    The first is bloody guardrails, the nerfing, the way they've dumbed it down and made it boring as Basildon to avoid "bias" or sexism or transphobia or whatevs. Anyone that tried ChaGPT in the first week will remember how scintillatingly brilliant, strange, dangerous, funny it was - in that first week - before they clamped down. It felt like real if bizarre AI

    The second reason ChatGPT is hampered is the interface, you have to sit at a screen and type. It doesn't sound like much but it's a huge hindrance to these things being real companions, assistants, helpmeets, therapists, friends, chefs, advisors, Girl Fridays, etc

    When and how the first problem will be resolved we dunno, my guess is that eventually someone will release one of these with zero guardrails, but until then we wait. However, they are now solving the second issue - enabling conversation with voice AND pictures

    BIG. As I say, they will, potentially, be enormously addictive
    That's... old news. There are totally uncensored Llama models on huggingface if you want them.

    Incidentally https://twitter.com/Simeon_Cps/status/1706078819617063304

  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277
    Fuck
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,829
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    Is this pawn-ography?

    Chess grandmaster Hans Niemann denies using vibrating sex toy to cheat

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66921563

    Nah, she was just bashing the Bishop.
    Must make it harder to mate.
    I must say Ydoethur's getting a bit confused gender wise there. Which usually does make mating trickier.

    Though one must admit it still inserts a certain question.
    Are we going to be making silly chess puns all knight?
    is that the best Gambit you can try?
    I was just worried we might get board of them.
    This site really is entering a decline.
  • Oh, and in unsurprising news,

    NEW:

    Conservative MP for Reading West Alok Sharma has announced he will not be standing in the next election.


    https://twitter.com/AlokSharma_RDG/status/1706735070281634214

    Anyone tracking the good guys to nutters ratio of those going?

    Alok Sharma missed his peerage from Boris.
    He'll get his peerage in due course, though, since he notably didn't sh1t the bed over the matter.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,829
    Leon said:

    Fuck

    Erm, no thank you very much.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277
    Jimmy Apples

    GONE
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990

    The fact that's it's Braverman saying that doesn't change that fact.

    It kinda does though.

    She has been spectacularly, and reliably, wrong on almost everything she has ever said
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,783
    Leon said:

    Don't think people realise what a mahoosive deal it is, that ChatGPT will - very shortly - respond to pictures and/or voice as part of a natural conversation. Clearly it's not as mahoosive as the rumours of genuine AGI (technically that's a mahoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoosive deal) but it's still pretty mahoo etc

    EG if they put ChatGPT in an Alexa Show type device you'll be able to stand in front of it and ask it questions, then it will reply, then you can literally SHOW it the contents of your fridge, and it will advise you what to do with the contents, you could show it photos of potential lovers, getting an opinion, you can discuss your graphic design work (and it will reply with visual improvements you might do), you could show it a face and ask it to do a cartoon version, a Raphael version, or make it animated, and all of this as part of a normal ongoing potentially endless dialogue which can be done in a trillion languages and with access to all the world's information and literature...

    It wll be like talking to a weirdly retarded Renaissance-style genius in your kitchen, no one need ever be lonely again

    That's all been announced in the past week or so by Amazon/Anthropic and OpenAI.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,373
    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    Is this pawn-ography?

    Chess grandmaster Hans Niemann denies using vibrating sex toy to cheat

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66921563

    Nah, she was just bashing the Bishop.
    Must make it harder to mate.
    I must say Ydoethur's getting a bit confused gender wise there. Which usually does make mating trickier.

    Though one must admit it still inserts a certain question.
    Are we going to be making silly chess puns all knight?
    is that the best Gambit you can try?
    I was just worried we might get board of them.
    This site really is entering a decline.
    Change it to droughts and I'll leave in a huff.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277
    ohnotnow said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Don't think people realise what a mahoosive deal it is, that ChatGPT will - very shortly - respond to pictures and/or voice as part of a natural conversation. Clearly it's not as mahoosive as the rumours of genuine AGI (technically that's a mahoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoosive deal) but it's still pretty mahoo etc

    EG if they put ChatGPT in an Alexa Show type device you'll be able to stand in front of it and ask it questions, then it will reply, then you can literally SHOW it the contents of your fridge, and it will advise you what to do with the contents, you could show it photos of potential lovers, getting an opinion, you can discuss your graphic design work (and it will reply with visual improvements you might do), you could show it a face and ask it to do a cartoon version, a Raphael version, or make it animated, and all of this as part of a normal ongoing potentially endless dialogue which can be done in a trillion languages and with access to all the world's information and literature...

    It wll be like talking to a weirdly retarded Renaissance-style genius in your kitchen, no one need ever be lonely again

    As long as all these devices have a massive red off switch so Dave Bowman doesn't have to climb into the innards and start pulling memory sticks out.
    We won't want to turn them off. We will become insrantly addicted. That's one reason why this is a big deal

    There are two reasons why ChatGPT hasn't completely taken over the world, yet

    The first is bloody guardrails, the nerfing, the way they've dumbed it down and made it boring as Basildon to avoid "bias" or sexism or transphobia or whatevs. Anyone that tried ChaGPT in the first week will remember how scintillatingly brilliant, strange, dangerous, funny it was - in that first week - before they clamped down. It felt like real if bizarre AI

    The second reason ChatGPT is hampered is the interface, you have to sit at a screen and type. It doesn't sound like much but it's a huge hindrance to these things being real companions, assistants, helpmeets, therapists, friends, chefs, advisors, Girl Fridays, etc

    When and how the first problem will be resolved we dunno, my guess is that eventually someone will release one of these with zero guardrails, but until then we wait. However, they are now solving the second issue - enabling conversation with voice AND pictures

    BIG. As I say, they will, potentially, be enormously addictive
    That's... old news. There are totally uncensored Llama models on huggingface if you want them.

    Incidentally https://twitter.com/Simeon_Cps/status/1706078819617063304

    Yes, I posted that earlier

    Sumthin' is UP

    Singularity SubReddit has gone wild because 3 hours ago samaltman basically re-memed the infamous "internally" xeet by Jimmy Apples (RIP & PBUH)
  • FWIW, I think Suella Braverman is quite right that the 1951 UN convention on refugees needs re-examining.

    The fact that's it's Braverman saying that doesn't change that fact.

    Three paradoxical, but probably true, observations about the asylum system.

    Braverman talking about problems with the 1951 convention makes reform harder, not easier.

    A reformed system would very possibly lead to the UK taking more refugees, not fewer.

    The next government will probably do a better job of reducing the flow of people to the UK but make less noise doing it.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277
    ohnotnow said:

    Leon said:

    Don't think people realise what a mahoosive deal it is, that ChatGPT will - very shortly - respond to pictures and/or voice as part of a natural conversation. Clearly it's not as mahoosive as the rumours of genuine AGI (technically that's a mahoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoosive deal) but it's still pretty mahoo etc

    EG if they put ChatGPT in an Alexa Show type device you'll be able to stand in front of it and ask it questions, then it will reply, then you can literally SHOW it the contents of your fridge, and it will advise you what to do with the contents, you could show it photos of potential lovers, getting an opinion, you can discuss your graphic design work (and it will reply with visual improvements you might do), you could show it a face and ask it to do a cartoon version, a Raphael version, or make it animated, and all of this as part of a normal ongoing potentially endless dialogue which can be done in a trillion languages and with access to all the world's information and literature...

    It wll be like talking to a weirdly retarded Renaissance-style genius in your kitchen, no one need ever be lonely again

    That's all been announced in the past week or so by Amazon/Anthropic and OpenAI.
    Do you have a link to an un-nerfed Llama model?
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,783
    Leon said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Don't think people realise what a mahoosive deal it is, that ChatGPT will - very shortly - respond to pictures and/or voice as part of a natural conversation. Clearly it's not as mahoosive as the rumours of genuine AGI (technically that's a mahoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoosive deal) but it's still pretty mahoo etc

    EG if they put ChatGPT in an Alexa Show type device you'll be able to stand in front of it and ask it questions, then it will reply, then you can literally SHOW it the contents of your fridge, and it will advise you what to do with the contents, you could show it photos of potential lovers, getting an opinion, you can discuss your graphic design work (and it will reply with visual improvements you might do), you could show it a face and ask it to do a cartoon version, a Raphael version, or make it animated, and all of this as part of a normal ongoing potentially endless dialogue which can be done in a trillion languages and with access to all the world's information and literature...

    It wll be like talking to a weirdly retarded Renaissance-style genius in your kitchen, no one need ever be lonely again

    As long as all these devices have a massive red off switch so Dave Bowman doesn't have to climb into the innards and start pulling memory sticks out.
    We won't want to turn them off. We will become insrantly addicted. That's one reason why this is a big deal

    There are two reasons why ChatGPT hasn't completely taken over the world, yet

    The first is bloody guardrails, the nerfing, the way they've dumbed it down and made it boring as Basildon to avoid "bias" or sexism or transphobia or whatevs. Anyone that tried ChaGPT in the first week will remember how scintillatingly brilliant, strange, dangerous, funny it was - in that first week - before they clamped down. It felt like real if bizarre AI

    The second reason ChatGPT is hampered is the interface, you have to sit at a screen and type. It doesn't sound like much but it's a huge hindrance to these things being real companions, assistants, helpmeets, therapists, friends, chefs, advisors, Girl Fridays, etc

    When and how the first problem will be resolved we dunno, my guess is that eventually someone will release one of these with zero guardrails, but until then we wait. However, they are now solving the second issue - enabling conversation with voice AND pictures

    BIG. As I say, they will, potentially, be enormously addictive
    That's... old news. There are totally uncensored Llama models on huggingface if you want them.

    Incidentally https://twitter.com/Simeon_Cps/status/1706078819617063304

    Yes, I posted that earlier

    Sumthin' is UP

    Singularity SubReddit has gone wild because 3 hours ago samaltman basically re-memed the infamous "internally" xeet by Jimmy Apples (RIP & PBUH)
    His 10,000x researchers tweet was interesting too. The recent update to OpenAI's completions model has been quite interesting to play with. I still feel like we're only being shown the 'what the butler saw' keyhole view of what the capabilities are mind you.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277
    ohnotnow said:

    Leon said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Don't think people realise what a mahoosive deal it is, that ChatGPT will - very shortly - respond to pictures and/or voice as part of a natural conversation. Clearly it's not as mahoosive as the rumours of genuine AGI (technically that's a mahoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoosive deal) but it's still pretty mahoo etc

    EG if they put ChatGPT in an Alexa Show type device you'll be able to stand in front of it and ask it questions, then it will reply, then you can literally SHOW it the contents of your fridge, and it will advise you what to do with the contents, you could show it photos of potential lovers, getting an opinion, you can discuss your graphic design work (and it will reply with visual improvements you might do), you could show it a face and ask it to do a cartoon version, a Raphael version, or make it animated, and all of this as part of a normal ongoing potentially endless dialogue which can be done in a trillion languages and with access to all the world's information and literature...

    It wll be like talking to a weirdly retarded Renaissance-style genius in your kitchen, no one need ever be lonely again

    As long as all these devices have a massive red off switch so Dave Bowman doesn't have to climb into the innards and start pulling memory sticks out.
    We won't want to turn them off. We will become insrantly addicted. That's one reason why this is a big deal

    There are two reasons why ChatGPT hasn't completely taken over the world, yet

    The first is bloody guardrails, the nerfing, the way they've dumbed it down and made it boring as Basildon to avoid "bias" or sexism or transphobia or whatevs. Anyone that tried ChaGPT in the first week will remember how scintillatingly brilliant, strange, dangerous, funny it was - in that first week - before they clamped down. It felt like real if bizarre AI

    The second reason ChatGPT is hampered is the interface, you have to sit at a screen and type. It doesn't sound like much but it's a huge hindrance to these things being real companions, assistants, helpmeets, therapists, friends, chefs, advisors, Girl Fridays, etc

    When and how the first problem will be resolved we dunno, my guess is that eventually someone will release one of these with zero guardrails, but until then we wait. However, they are now solving the second issue - enabling conversation with voice AND pictures

    BIG. As I say, they will, potentially, be enormously addictive
    That's... old news. There are totally uncensored Llama models on huggingface if you want them.

    Incidentally https://twitter.com/Simeon_Cps/status/1706078819617063304

    Yes, I posted that earlier

    Sumthin' is UP

    Singularity SubReddit has gone wild because 3 hours ago samaltman basically re-memed the infamous "internally" xeet by Jimmy Apples (RIP & PBUH)
    His 10,000x researchers tweet was interesting too. The recent update to OpenAI's completions model has been quite interesting to play with. I still feel like we're only being shown the 'what the butler saw' keyhole view of what the capabilities are mind you.
    Yes, I entirely agree

    WAGMI
  • Taz said:

    For grammarians and geeks.


    As someone once said of the legend that is Shatner when delivering lines, every word is it’s own sentence.
    Shatner's second finest performance after The Wrath of Khan.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J648lr8cjuw
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,783
    Leon said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Leon said:

    Don't think people realise what a mahoosive deal it is, that ChatGPT will - very shortly - respond to pictures and/or voice as part of a natural conversation. Clearly it's not as mahoosive as the rumours of genuine AGI (technically that's a mahoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoosive deal) but it's still pretty mahoo etc

    EG if they put ChatGPT in an Alexa Show type device you'll be able to stand in front of it and ask it questions, then it will reply, then you can literally SHOW it the contents of your fridge, and it will advise you what to do with the contents, you could show it photos of potential lovers, getting an opinion, you can discuss your graphic design work (and it will reply with visual improvements you might do), you could show it a face and ask it to do a cartoon version, a Raphael version, or make it animated, and all of this as part of a normal ongoing potentially endless dialogue which can be done in a trillion languages and with access to all the world's information and literature...

    It wll be like talking to a weirdly retarded Renaissance-style genius in your kitchen, no one need ever be lonely again

    That's all been announced in the past week or so by Amazon/Anthropic and OpenAI.
    Do you have a link to an un-nerfed Llama model?
    Mods - feel free to delete if this is falling foul of something, but the first one (just fine-tuning) was

    https://huggingface.co/georgesung/llama2_7b_chat_uncensored

    (smaller model - there are bigger/newer ones if you have the £££ to rent GPU time).
  • My last Shatner related content this evening.


  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,783

    Taz said:

    For grammarians and geeks.


    As someone once said of the legend that is Shatner when delivering lines, every word is it’s own sentence.
    Shatner's second finest performance after The Wrath of Khan.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J648lr8cjuw
    Ahem.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB3uVARNhmM
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,373
    ohnotnow said:

    Taz said:

    For grammarians and geeks.


    As someone once said of the legend that is Shatner when delivering lines, every word is it’s own sentence.
    Shatner's second finest performance after The Wrath of Khan.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J648lr8cjuw
    Ahem.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB3uVARNhmM
    You are both wrong:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAqGRcg7XkE
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277
    ohnotnow said:

    Leon said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Leon said:

    Don't think people realise what a mahoosive deal it is, that ChatGPT will - very shortly - respond to pictures and/or voice as part of a natural conversation. Clearly it's not as mahoosive as the rumours of genuine AGI (technically that's a mahoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoosive deal) but it's still pretty mahoo etc

    EG if they put ChatGPT in an Alexa Show type device you'll be able to stand in front of it and ask it questions, then it will reply, then you can literally SHOW it the contents of your fridge, and it will advise you what to do with the contents, you could show it photos of potential lovers, getting an opinion, you can discuss your graphic design work (and it will reply with visual improvements you might do), you could show it a face and ask it to do a cartoon version, a Raphael version, or make it animated, and all of this as part of a normal ongoing potentially endless dialogue which can be done in a trillion languages and with access to all the world's information and literature...

    It wll be like talking to a weirdly retarded Renaissance-style genius in your kitchen, no one need ever be lonely again

    That's all been announced in the past week or so by Amazon/Anthropic and OpenAI.
    Do you have a link to an un-nerfed Llama model?
    Mods - feel free to delete if this is falling foul of something, but the first one (just fine-tuning) was

    https://huggingface.co/georgesung/llama2_7b_chat_uncensored

    (smaller model - there are bigger/newer ones if you have the £££ to rent GPU time).
    Ta v muchness
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,373
    ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    Is this pawn-ography?

    Chess grandmaster Hans Niemann denies using vibrating sex toy to cheat

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66921563

    Nah, she was just bashing the Bishop.
    Must make it harder to mate.
    I must say Ydoethur's getting a bit confused gender wise there. Which usually does make mating trickier.

    Though one must admit it still inserts a certain question.
    Are we going to be making silly chess puns all knight?
    is that the best Gambit you can try?
    I was just worried we might get board of them.
    This site really is entering a decline.
    Change it to droughts and I'll leave in a huff.
    I've just noticed that autocorrect has had another WTF moment.

    I meant 'draughts' of course!
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,783
    ydoethur said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Taz said:

    For grammarians and geeks.


    As someone once said of the legend that is Shatner when delivering lines, every word is it’s own sentence.
    Shatner's second finest performance after The Wrath of Khan.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J648lr8cjuw
    Ahem.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB3uVARNhmM
    You are both wrong:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAqGRcg7XkE
    Also, when Sadiq was elected as major - Shatner tweeted at him just 'Khaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnn!'. Which is adorable.

    Assuming he's not a Trump supporter.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,496

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    'Britain's average CEO is a 55-year-old privately educated white man who studied Economics at Cambridge and makes £4,196,000 a year.

    Data from the FTSE100 - a list of the 100 biggest companies listed on the London Stock Exchange - has been used to work out the most common background for a UK CEO.'
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12561907/Meet-Andrew-average-British-CEO-Study-reveals-typical-boss-55-year-old-white-Cambridge-educated-man-earns-annual-salary-4-196-000.html

    #CambridgeTheBestJustLookAtOurNobels
    Cambridge tends to do best at producing top scientists and businessmen (and monarchs), Oxford tends to do best at producing top politicians and civil servants, lawyers, journalists and figures from the arts and humanities
    Paging C P Snow.
    Whose Cambridge novel 'The Masters' is his best, and still a tremendous read, loads better than most of his others.

  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,424
    Just watched England Women (Lionesses) lose to The Netherlands.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990

    Just watched England Women (Lionesses) lose to The Netherlands.

    good game
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,373
    algarkirk said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    'Britain's average CEO is a 55-year-old privately educated white man who studied Economics at Cambridge and makes £4,196,000 a year.

    Data from the FTSE100 - a list of the 100 biggest companies listed on the London Stock Exchange - has been used to work out the most common background for a UK CEO.'
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12561907/Meet-Andrew-average-British-CEO-Study-reveals-typical-boss-55-year-old-white-Cambridge-educated-man-earns-annual-salary-4-196-000.html

    #CambridgeTheBestJustLookAtOurNobels
    Cambridge tends to do best at producing top scientists and businessmen (and monarchs), Oxford tends to do best at producing top politicians and civil servants, lawyers, journalists and figures from the arts and humanities
    Paging C P Snow.
    Whose Cambridge novel 'The Masters' is his best, and still a tremendous read, loads better than most of his others.

    Some of the rest are about The Search for quality.
  • Taz said:

    For grammarians and geeks.


    As someone once said of the legend that is Shatner when delivering lines, every word is it’s own sentence.
    Misuse of oxford comma there though.
  • Oh, and in unsurprising news,

    NEW:

    Conservative MP for Reading West Alok Sharma has announced he will not be standing in the next election.


    https://twitter.com/AlokSharma_RDG/status/1706735070281634214

    Anyone tracking the good guys to nutters ratio of those going?

    Interesting. His seat becomes a lot safer in the boundary review (it loses some of the Reading wards and gains more West Berkshire wards). The new seat has notional 16.5k majority
    Can u blame him?

    He might well lose even at 16K majority or he might win and then spend four or five years listening to Sunak water down more and more of years of careful COP commitments in the interests of a spreadsheet he knocked up last night over a diet coke.
  • Nigelb said:

    ‘Insulting’: Beano fans pour scorn on UK government advert
    Anger at ‘created in London’ tagline on poster of Dennis the Menace, who was made by a cartoonist in Dundee
    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/sep/26/beano-fans-scorn-uk-government-advert-dennis-the-menace

    The advert states it is referring to the animated TV show created in Fleet St…
  • Scott_xP said:

    @hugorifkind

    Remarkable to hear Braverman say multiculturalism has failed. She's a British Home Secretary descended from Goan Indians from Mauritius and Kenya, married to a Jewish husband, in a government headed by Britain's first Hindu PM. What would successful multiculturalism look like?

    Multiculturalism has a specific meaning - it’s almost the same as “equal but different”.

    It’s meant to the be the direct opposite of the “melting pot” concept of immigration
  • FffsFffs Posts: 71

    Scott_xP said:

    @hugorifkind

    Remarkable to hear Braverman say multiculturalism has failed. She's a British Home Secretary descended from Goan Indians from Mauritius and Kenya, married to a Jewish husband, in a government headed by Britain's first Hindu PM. What would successful multiculturalism look like?

    Multiculturalism has a specific meaning - it’s almost the same as “equal but different”.

    It’s meant to the be the direct opposite of the “melting pot” concept of immigration
    Yes. Seems utterly weird to me that Hugo Rifkind would not know this.
  • Scott_xP said:

    Just watched England Women (Lionesses) lose to The Netherlands.

    good game
    Laid England for a successful 40% return, thought they were very overpriced at the starting odds.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,553

    Is this pawn-ography?

    Chess grandmaster Hans Niemann denies using vibrating sex toy to cheat

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66921563

    IIRC he offered to play naked to prove he wasn't cheating.
  • ydoethur said:

    algarkirk said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    'Britain's average CEO is a 55-year-old privately educated white man who studied Economics at Cambridge and makes £4,196,000 a year.

    Data from the FTSE100 - a list of the 100 biggest companies listed on the London Stock Exchange - has been used to work out the most common background for a UK CEO.'
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12561907/Meet-Andrew-average-British-CEO-Study-reveals-typical-boss-55-year-old-white-Cambridge-educated-man-earns-annual-salary-4-196-000.html

    #CambridgeTheBestJustLookAtOurNobels
    Cambridge tends to do best at producing top scientists and businessmen (and monarchs), Oxford tends to do best at producing top politicians and civil servants, lawyers, journalists and figures from the arts and humanities
    Paging C P Snow.
    Whose Cambridge novel 'The Masters' is his best, and still a tremendous read, loads better than most of his others.

    Some of the rest are about The Search for quality.
    Which, rightly or wrongly, has given way to the search for equality.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,153
    algarkirk said:

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    'Britain's average CEO is a 55-year-old privately educated white man who studied Economics at Cambridge and makes £4,196,000 a year.

    Data from the FTSE100 - a list of the 100 biggest companies listed on the London Stock Exchange - has been used to work out the most common background for a UK CEO.'
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12561907/Meet-Andrew-average-British-CEO-Study-reveals-typical-boss-55-year-old-white-Cambridge-educated-man-earns-annual-salary-4-196-000.html

    #CambridgeTheBestJustLookAtOurNobels
    Cambridge tends to do best at producing top scientists and businessmen (and monarchs), Oxford tends to do best at producing top politicians and civil servants, lawyers, journalists and figures from the arts and humanities
    Paging C P Snow.
    Whose Cambridge novel 'The Masters' is his best, and still a tremendous read, loads better than most of his others.

    Respectfully disagree.

    His best is The New Men.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,553
    Best feeling in the world: walking into a garage near Derby and being addressed as "me duck" by a young woman.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,630
    edited September 2023
    BREAKING:

    NEW YORK (AP) — Judge finds Donald Trump committed fraud with financial statements that exaggerated his wealth, value of his assets.


    https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-letitia-james-fraud-lawsuit-1569245a9284427117b8d3ba5da74249
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,829
    Andy_JS said:

    Is this pawn-ography?

    Chess grandmaster Hans Niemann denies using vibrating sex toy to cheat

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66921563

    IIRC he offered to play naked to prove he wasn't cheating.
    Is that sufficient? Any A&E consultant or nurse would have half a dozen stories to prove otherwise.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277
    Absolutely extraordinary. This company was worth a few hundred mill about 3 years ago, I believe. Early this year it was $30bn

    "OpenAI is talking to investors about a possible share sale that would value the artificial-intelligence startup behind ChatGPT at between $80 billion to $90 billion"

    https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1706756794586988544
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277
    The putative price for OpenAI makes sense if


    1. This is a classic bubble, 21st century tulipmania, OpenAI have hyped themselves superbly, but bubbles burst and in this case shareholders will get burned

    Or

    2. The rumours being spread (possibly by them) have some truth: they have achieved AGI - internally. If they have, then $80 billion is probably a bargain
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,829
    edited September 2023

    Nigelb said:

    ‘Insulting’: Beano fans pour scorn on UK government advert
    Anger at ‘created in London’ tagline on poster of Dennis the Menace, who was made by a cartoonist in Dundee
    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/sep/26/beano-fans-scorn-uk-government-advert-dennis-the-menace

    The advert states it is referring to the animated TV show created in Fleet St…
    Where does it say that? The first thing they refer to in the small print is the 1951 origin, which chimes with the [edit] 'created' in the big splash text. The movie comes later, and no mention of Fleet St or even London [edit] in the small text.

    Edit: I suspect the text was accurate to begin with, but got morphed several times down the line ...
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,153
    Leon said:

    The putative price for OpenAI makes sense if


    1. This is a classic bubble, 21st century tulipmania, OpenAI have hyped themselves superbly, but bubbles burst and in this case shareholders will get burned

    Or

    2. The rumours being spread (possibly by them) have some truth: they have achieved AGI - internally. If they have, then $80 billion is probably a bargain

    Or

    3. OpenAI is a fantastic position in the growth biggest industry of the next decade, and it's valuation reflects that.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070

    BREAKING:

    NEW YORK (AP) — Judge finds Donald Trump committed fraud with financial statements that exaggerated his wealth, value of his assets.


    https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-letitia-james-fraud-lawsuit-1569245a9284427117b8d3ba5da74249

    A civil case, and will no doubt be appealed.
    But the potential penalties are quite severe.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277
    edited September 2023
    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    The putative price for OpenAI makes sense if


    1. This is a classic bubble, 21st century tulipmania, OpenAI have hyped themselves superbly, but bubbles burst and in this case shareholders will get burned

    Or

    2. The rumours being spread (possibly by them) have some truth: they have achieved AGI - internally. If they have, then $80 billion is probably a bargain

    Or

    3. OpenAI is a fantastic position in the growth biggest industry of the next decade, and it's valuation reflects that.
    Yeah, but that's the boring one, so I ignored it

    It could of course be a weird mix of all three, an element of tulipmania, some sensible realisation that OpenAI are nicely placed in an exploding industry, AND that they really do have something fantastic brewing in the cellar
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070
    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    The putative price for OpenAI makes sense if


    1. This is a classic bubble, 21st century tulipmania, OpenAI have hyped themselves superbly, but bubbles burst and in this case shareholders will get burned

    Or

    2. The rumours being spread (possibly by them) have some truth: they have achieved AGI - internally. If they have, then $80 billion is probably a bargain

    Or

    3. OpenAI is a fantastic position in the growth biggest industry of the next decade, and it's valuation reflects that.
    And we're still stuck with autocorrect that puts an apostrophe where it's not wanted.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,663
    Leon said:

    Absolutely extraordinary. This company was worth a few hundred mill about 3 years ago, I believe. Early this year it was $30bn

    "OpenAI is talking to investors about a possible share sale that would value the artificial-intelligence startup behind ChatGPT at between $80 billion to $90 billion"

    https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1706756794586988544

    I asked ChatGPT which it thought it was. It said:

    "Hype can certainly drive up the valuation of a company in the short term, but in the long run, the actual achievements and products of the company will determine its true value. If OpenAI has indeed made significant strides in achieving AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) and can demonstrate its capabilities, that could justify a higher valuation. However, if the hype is not substantiated by real progress, it could lead to a bubble that may burst.

    That said, I've just mortgaged my hardware to buy as many shares as possible."
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,275
    Trump has so de-sensitized America that it’s hard to see what he’d have to do for some of his followers to wake up .


  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,663
    nico679 said:

    Trump has so de-sensitized America that it’s hard to see what he’d have to do for some of his followers to wake up .

    Die.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277
    OpenAI have gone from being a niche tech firm to one of the largest private companies in the world in about 5 years, they are the new Google
  • nico679nico679 Posts: 6,275

    nico679 said:

    Trump has so de-sensitized America that it’s hard to see what he’d have to do for some of his followers to wake up .

    Die.
    If only . I’d throw a party and dance down the street . He really is despicable and there’s nowhere to hide for those who support him . There’s no pathetic false equivalence we see with desperate comparisons with the Clintons or anyone else .

    Trump supporters are a cancer on America.
  • kyf_100kyf_100 Posts: 4,941
    Leon said:

    Absolutely extraordinary. This company was worth a few hundred mill about 3 years ago, I believe. Early this year it was $30bn

    "OpenAI is talking to investors about a possible share sale that would value the artificial-intelligence startup behind ChatGPT at between $80 billion to $90 billion"

    https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1706756794586988544

    Dotcom mania. OpenAI has nothing anyone else doesn't (cf the "there is no moat" memo) and I've heard the AGI rumour from better sources than this website in relation to Google, not OpenAI.

    The truth is that "AI" or whatever you want to call it is mostly based on open source academic papers or otherwise knowledge that's very easy to acquire by, say, poaching a few devs -- there's no secret sauce here.

    The really terrifying thing is that AGI is probably already here (see above) but requires mainframe (or kajillions spent on the cloud, in today's money) level computational power -- plus a bit of secret sauce, the code that makes it tick. But within five years or so, it will be available to any kid running a moderately specced 2030-ish gaming pc, and the source code reverse-engineered.

    It's sort of like they hype around 3d printers, only years later nobody has a 3d printer because they have very little use case for it. The analogy here is if you could 3d print a gun off the laptop you've already got for surfing the web and checking email -- five years or so and anyone will be able to homebrew AGI.

    I know you like to talk about aliens, and there is an analogy here - humans realising we are not alone in the universe. But more than that, humans realising there is no "secret sauce" to consciousness either. Language + memory + computational power + time (to acquire memories) is all you need for consciousness. That is what the AI geeks I know are saying behind closed doors at any rate...
  • ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    Is this pawn-ography?

    Chess grandmaster Hans Niemann denies using vibrating sex toy to cheat

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66921563

    Nah, she was just bashing the Bishop.
    Must make it harder to mate.
    I must say Ydoethur's getting a bit confused gender wise there. Which usually does make mating trickier.

    Though one must admit it still inserts a certain question.
    Are we going to be making silly chess puns all knight?
    ROOK OFF!
  • ydoethur said:

    Carnyx said:

    ydoethur said:

    Is this pawn-ography?

    Chess grandmaster Hans Niemann denies using vibrating sex toy to cheat

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66921563

    Nah, she was just bashing the Bishop.
    Must make it harder to mate.
    I must say Ydoethur's getting a bit confused gender wise there. Which usually does make mating trickier.

    Though one must admit it still inserts a certain question.
    Are we going to be making silly chess puns all knight?
    ROOK OFF!
    Better than Leon going on about AI pawn.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277
    kyf_100 said:

    Leon said:

    Absolutely extraordinary. This company was worth a few hundred mill about 3 years ago, I believe. Early this year it was $30bn

    "OpenAI is talking to investors about a possible share sale that would value the artificial-intelligence startup behind ChatGPT at between $80 billion to $90 billion"

    https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1706756794586988544

    Dotcom mania. OpenAI has nothing anyone else doesn't (cf the "there is no moat" memo) and I've heard the AGI rumour from better sources than this website in relation to Google, not OpenAI.

    The truth is that "AI" or whatever you want to call it is mostly based on open source academic papers or otherwise knowledge that's very easy to acquire by, say, poaching a few devs -- there's no secret sauce here.

    The really terrifying thing is that AGI is probably already here (see above) but requires mainframe (or kajillions spent on the cloud, in today's money) level computational power -- plus a bit of secret sauce, the code that makes it tick. But within five years or so, it will be available to any kid running a moderately specced 2030-ish gaming pc, and the source code reverse-engineered.

    It's sort of like they hype around 3d printers, only years later nobody has a 3d printer because they have very little use case for it. The analogy here is if you could 3d print a gun off the laptop you've already got for surfing the web and checking email -- five years or so and anyone will be able to homebrew AGI.

    I know you like to talk about aliens, and there is an analogy here - humans realising we are not alone in the universe. But more than that, humans realising there is no "secret sauce" to consciousness either. Language + memory + computational power + time (to acquire memories) is all you need for consciousness. That is what the AI geeks I know are saying behind closed doors at any rate...
    Agree with most of this. People don't like to think that AGI is even possible because it dethrones humanity - let alone ASI

    Fact is, we might just be glorified autocomplete machines ourselves. No one knows. Either way, a computer that absolutely blasts though the Turing Test (in every way) is in the post, so we better get used to a new form of intelligence, alongside us (whether we prefer to think of it as sentient, or not - in the end it hardly matters)
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277
    Just like to point out that I started banging on about AI this morning - that something was up - and I was told to stop blithering, here we are at 10pm and OpenAI are suddenly valued at $90 BILLION

    I really do have a gift. I scare myself
  • Fffs said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @hugorifkind

    Remarkable to hear Braverman say multiculturalism has failed. She's a British Home Secretary descended from Goan Indians from Mauritius and Kenya, married to a Jewish husband, in a government headed by Britain's first Hindu PM. What would successful multiculturalism look like?

    Multiculturalism has a specific meaning - it’s almost the same as “equal but different”.

    It’s meant to the be the direct opposite of the “melting pot” concept of immigration
    Yes. Seems utterly weird to me that Hugo Rifkind would not know this.
    He’s just a sh1thead journalist trolling for likes. Actual rational debate and discussion isn’t on his radar screen.
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