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Sunak might be worse than Johnson and Truss – politicalbetting.com
Sunak might be worse than Johnson and Truss – politicalbetting.com
According to @IpsosUK, Sunak's net approval rating (-33) on whether he's doing a good job is now lower than:– Truss's rating after the mini budget (-32 at the end of Septembrr 2022)– Johnson's worst ratings ever (lowest was -30), including the week he resigned. pic.twitter.com/wQisVI9dT1
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Truss: Elizabeth
Sunak: Larry
In this weekends games I also predicted a Samoa win (Fail) and a Wales win (oh $hit...).
A brilliant RWC so far....
I have no idea if this is the protocol in such cases, but I think all serving armed police officers should have the right to review the evidence including any camera footage that has been used by the CPS to come to the decision to charge. That might be unusual, but they are in an unusual job and have the right to know what will get them charged with murder.
I'm a bit concerned about the paragraph that starts "I guess that's what happens when...". Did you really mean to say what it looks (to me) as though you're saying, TSE?
I hope it makes sense now.
Sorry to be utterly pedantic (it comes with being a mathematician) but is there a "when" missing between "happens" and "you"?
Yesterday you were rather rude about the King parental style. From today’s mail:
At the time, he [Harry] was offered the chance to stay in Balmoral with his father Charles on the anniversary of the Queen's death on September 7 but said his busy itinerary made it impossible.
I guess Harry doesn’t rank seeing his father that high in his list of priorities
In which case Jeremy Corbyn was a Czech Spy
It's when not if, and the wait feels tedious. It was like this in 1996/7 but without quite the same excitement towards Keir Starmer as there was towards Tony Blair.That's partly also a reflection on the state of the country, which remains grim.
13 months feels like a long time.
Adulterers have form for treating their families badly.
Two days after getting back from S Korea, got a great night’s sleep.
Rishi's problem is that he's perceived to be detached and disinterested coupled with poor political salesmanship. When you add this in to his approach to risk which, in its delivery, goes from extremely cautious to cautious to desperate panic it conveys a lack of confidence that others pick up on and irritates them because they don't really know or trust his motives.
It's not actually the policy. The guy has never crystallised what he's about, where his heart is and why you should trust him, or communicated his vision and prospectus for Britain.
The desperate flailing around on climate change is actively damaging.
It is absolutely not up to them to consider anyone guilty.
Of course the jury decides - that’s how our system of justice works.
You police friend ought to understand that.
He really doesn't get us ordinary folk. He is detached.
Josep Borrell calls for European unity in face of Ukraine war, US-China competition and rise of global south
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/22/migration-eu-diplomat-josep-borrell-ukraine-china
… Borrell said nationalism was on the rise in Europe but this was more about migration than Euroscepticism. “Brexit actually was feared to be an epidemic. And it has not been,” he said. “It has been a vaccine. No one wants to follow the British leaving the European Union.
“Migration is a bigger divide for the European Union. And it could be a dissolving force for the European Union.” Despite establishing a shared common external border, “we have not been able until now to agree on a common migration policy”, he said.
He attributed this to deep cultural and political differences inside the EU: “There are some members of the European Union that are Japanese-style – we don’t want to mix. We don’t want migrants. We don’t want to accept people from outside. We want our purity.”
He said other countries, such as Spain, have a long history of accepting migrants. “The paradox is that Europe needs migrants because we have so low demographic growth. If we want to survive from a labour point of view, we need migrants.”…
… Increasingly a target for personal criticism by the Russian foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, Borrell was at the heart of the decision to persuade EU states to supply arms to Kyiv as Russian troops crossed the border – indeed he says it is the proudest moment of his career...
They're a busted flush. Time for change. That's not a political rallying cry but a statement of fact. They, and we, need the Conservative Party to spend time on the Opposition benches.
My friend's concern is that the powers that be don't have backbone and will just leave it to the jury to say not guilty. That way, no one can complain.
I think we don't know enough details to judge. I do think the serving officers should have the right to see the evidence to know what the situation is. I have no idea if that has actually happened.
The HS2 policy makes zero sense - and earmarking 7th for an inheritance tax giveaway ?
Cynical nonsense.
He might be a competent administrator, but he’s a dreadful chief exec.
Plus Truss at least recognises the problem (lack of growth), even if she wasn't hugely competent at fixing it - although she faced resistance from people who should have been neutral.
Sunak is just flailing around mis-managing decline, and will take his party to a well deserved annihilation. There is no alternative to that now
You’re perhaps right that we don’t have enough details to judge whether, or how much the bar for bringing a prosecution might have moved.
Given the very small numbers of such cases, there isn’t much data to go on.
But it’s equally possible that previously cases were not being brought when they should have been. What it clear from years of other evidence is that we can’t just accept that the police are in the right on this.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/09/23/rishi-sunak-majority-140k-homes-labour-nutrient-neutrality/
What doesn't make sense about all this is that a) they don't need to revoke the habitats regulations to solve this problem, and b) it ends their long term argument that there will not scrap EU derived environmental rules. It is in line with the general theme of desperation.
In addition to which, after Johnson and Truss, there isn’t any benefit of the doubt left, and wouldn’t be for any replacement. It’s all been used up, and some.
It's quite something when you consider that in the General Election campaign he will most likely make Keir Starmer look brilliant.
Change PMs again - even bring back one of previous failures - and it might be worse still.
The vice of today’s Tories is that they think “rolling the dice” is a reasonable strategy. It is profoundly unconservative.
So the danger may be that he is perceived not only as a dangerous, incompetent liar, but also a rather nasty piece of work. Who grins a lot.
McCarthy backtracks, says he will keep Ukraine aid in Pentagon funding bill
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4220034-mccarthy-backtracks-says-he-will-keep-ukraine-aid-in-pentagon-funding-bill/
I have no idea how you find competent people to join the police given the level of risk the police are exposed to and the low pay. Judging by the comments on this website a lot of posters earn far more money than serving police officers and are exposed to none of the risks.
One of my past managers had a daughter who was in the police, she quit after a few years to become a manager at Aldi, where her pay was doubled.
It's deeply disturbing that a man who is clearly not himself completely stupid can't see that.
Neither Sunak nor Starmer have any meaningful proposals to kick the economy back in to gear.
It’s the cynicism that gets me. It’s one thing to scrap HS2 and announce the money will be spent on other infrastructure.
But we’re into naked, shameless bungs for the small proportion of the country that might still vote conservative out of habit, using our future prosperity as the bargaining chip.
I have never much liked the Conservative party, but I have always respected the ethics behind a conservative approach to life. ‘Standing on your own two feet’ etc.
This is not that. It’s not even coherent. @ThomasNashe likened Sunak to Corbyn. The big difference is that Corbyn wasn’t in power. Sunak is flailing about with our futures in both hands.
PS OLB great header the other day.
Thatcher, I'm pretty sure, would have got it, and had enough Victorian thrift about her to spend the necessary now to save in the future.
Sunak- like Truss, a Thatcherite who is too young to really remember Thatcher- gives off vibes of that cartoon with the shabby executive saying "Yes, we destroyed the planet. But on the bright side, we did create a lot of shareholder value."
Sunak's real problem is the second. Because once members of the public see it, they can't unsee it.
Faffing around with inheritance tax opens up the possibility that not could treated as a capital gain.
As Dura notes, they’ve ripped up the one long term consensus policy.
We’re shit at long term planning, and one of the prime reasons is that each incoming set of politicians think they can change the last plan for something better - when the reality is that most of them have little or no expertise regarding their ministerial brief.
Turning every bit of policy making into a political football ensures it’s going to be bad policy.
There’s no chance for us ever to start to get better at it.
It's not as if the polis don't know about the existence of the recordings.
(However it is truth universally acknowledged that it is vanishingly rare for defendants to share the case against them in a prosecution any more than they have to.)
Finally, all the evidence will be aired in public, unless there is a court order otherwise. Any journalist can make and publish a 100% full transcript by using shorthand.
No case can get off the ground unless there is on the face of it a case to answer; and the judge can decide that during the trial if it doesn't happen before.
Look at the YouGov polling on the issue.
Thatcher didn't care about opinion polls and achieved things (leaving aside, for the moment, the debate on whether they were the right things). Her successors focus group every bloody thing and have left us 20-30 years behind where we need to be on infrastructure and power generation, and indeed just about everything else - health and education spring to mind.
*Genuine gold star for anyone who identifies where that is quoted from.
Rishi has simply extended a deadline to match the EU, whilst keeping the NZ target, something that passed entirely uncommented on by you when the EU did it.
As usual your invective is entirely synthesised.
https://twitter.com/HarryHamishGray/status/1705681106400317727?t=QaVtaPfKNaqZ-oMHu-49rQ&s=19
And to to think some PBers thought cycling across Edinburgh was too far.
And therte have been *thousands* of posts on PB discussing the petrol to electric transition.
Your attitude that anyone who doesn’t agree with you is just a leftie sucks. There are plenty in your own party that have criticised the moves.
And I would have though that you in particular would be disappointed with the HS2 nonsense.
Only 22% of people trust Rishi Sunak to tackle the climate crisis after his announcement that he will weaken the UK’s net zero policies.
An exclusive poll for the Guardian found that fewer than a quarter of people trust the prime minister to take on the challenge. A total of 53% said they did not trust him, while 19% said they did not know.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/sep/23/only-22-percent-of-britons-trust-sunak-on-climate-finds-guardian-poll
Yes it's for the Grauniad, but We Think are a proper pollster.
And without trust, a PM is doomed.
The CPS will not prosecute a defendant they know to be innocent, in the same way that a barrister cannot defend a defendant if they know the defendant is guilty. However, if the CPS don't have anything that proves the defendant is innocent, it all comes down to whether there is sufficient evidence to provide a realistic prospect of conviction. In other words, is there sufficient evidence to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the defendant is guilty.
Hopefully the stations and rolling stock will anticipate increased rates of cycling too.
Which is exactly Sunak's problem. Because Centrist Dads voted for Cameron, and if you look at the YouGov polling - the very same polling highlighted by OGH in his previous header - they were initially prepared to give Sunak the benefit of the doubt. Now they're not.
Why should he worry ?
Trust in politicians is no longer a thing.
But it’s very obvious that criticisms of government policy cross the political spectrum.
Here’s today’s example.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/sep/23/rishi-sunak-pushes-to-axe-northern-hs2-rail-line-ahead-of-tory-conference
… Rishi Sunak is facing a huge backlash from senior Tories and business leaders amid signs he is ready to scrap the northern section of the HS2 high speed rail line before the Conservative conference opens in Manchester next weekend...
Edit - on that subject this is a brilliant piece of work by a YouTuber:
https://youtu.be/zTFcN8RsJbs?si=vxjTKu_YtUCMr5xV
All the usual suspects. None of them are centrists in the slightest.
And then on DuraAce's characteristic unpleasantness you also have MexicanPete, NorthernMonkey and Carnyx. They may support Labour, LDs or the SNP but they are all of a type.
This site has become a haven for Lefties. It's what it is now.
Anyone pointing out that the modified policy is more popular than the original simply draws that herd their way, which is why virtually all others have given up and deserted the site.
It doesn't bother me, I like a fight, but you can understand why most simply can't be bothered.
If I who voted for Hague, Cameron and May am now a lefty, the right really has lost it.
How Centre-left-ist Dads were advised to f#£&@ off and join the Tories?
And how a decisive number of them took that advice in 2019?
Both are longstanding Conservative policies (and the basis upon which some people voted for Johnson in 2019 given they were in the manifesto).
I have made clear my disappointment on HS2 on here multiple times - in fact, when I did so I even got a couple of extra likes from your lot because they thought I was having a dig at Rishi and wanted to cheer it - and you'll hate that because it doesn't make me the partisan bogeyman you'd like me to be.
You should think for yourself; not be a sheep.
It doesn't make it true.
It really is peak geek if anyone gets it.
(Terry Pratchett is closer. It was sci-fi/fantasy.)
47% of voters approving of Sunak's plans to delay or cancel the net zero plans is even higher than the 2019 Conservative voteshare let alone the current one so clearly was a relatively popular policy. As for an inheritance tax cut proposal that will go down well with the Tory core vote in the Home counties and West London and the bluewall Sunak gets on side, more and more of whom are over the OHG threshold. Included in the manifesto it will be an incentive to vote Tory again.
If you agree with David Herdson however that the priority is yet higher public spending not tax cuts then you will almost certainly be voting Labour anyway.
Sunak is on the right track and with Boris having left the Commons now there is no viable alternative to him as Tory leader before the next general election
It's reflective of morale, and engagement, but not a balanced spectrum of opinion is my point.
Whoever puts their hand up in the audience and shouts out is different from what happens when everyone leaves the theatre and goes to cast their vote in private in the ballot box.
Bryan Forbes’s The Whisperers is an unrelentingly bleak, yet brilliant, depiction of industrial decline – set long before the 1980s
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/bryan-forbes-the-whisperers-thatcher-industrial-north/ (£££)
Plot spoilers abound so if you trust Simon Heffer's judgement, watch the film.
The issue is, how do you justify a large tax cut for rich people while cutting spending and still running a colossal deficit?
Although I would expect abolishing IHT to be actually quite popular, there isn't an answer to that question.
Hint - it was released in 2002.