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The LEAVE-REMAIN divide becoming less of an issue – politicalbetting.com
The LEAVE-REMAIN divide becoming less of an issue – politicalbetting.com
? NEW POLLING ??? "With no #Brexit ‘glue’, Leave voters are no longer wedded to the Conservative Party. Indeed, our new polling with @RedfieldWilton shows a declining attachment to the Tories", writes @SophieStowers.Find out more: https://t.co/9b0m1pVIdR pic.twitter.com/5nEKExxxEb
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Whereas the flagellation movement is all about demonstrating in as overwrought a fashion as possible that you are so much better than some 17th century person, one amongst dozens of ancestors possibly, who may or may not have had an impact on you today. Yes, governments are insistent and not enough of the public give a crap about it, so they don't suffer as a consequence. One not without some downsides admittedly, but to which some people have a bizarre reaction as if the world's population would have been better off without it ever happening.
Everton have scored in the Premier League.
On topic- it would be interesting to see the split by current views of Brexit. Are the blue to red switchers more Bregretters, or Confident Leavers (Brexit is fine and not in peril)?
It had to happen
NEXTA @nexta_tv
China has declared part of Russia as its territory on new official maps
#China's state-owned Standard Map Service has presented a set of geographic maps for 2023, on which for the first time part of #Russia's territory is indicated as part of China. It is about the Bolshoy Ussuriysky Island on the Amur River.
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1696624183470408168
But many of those I know who are still Brexiteers are of the opinion that Starmer will make no appreciable difference to it and that competance is what is needed now not ideology.
We want a government that can do better and it doesn’t appear to be this one.
I went to a very sweet wedding, yesterday. Some old friends who’ve been unmarried partners 35 years and have two fine, well-adjusted grown up kids. And now grandkids. They suddenly decided to solemnise the whole shebang, just because.
It was a perfect mix of ages: babies to babushkas. 80 people on the Twickenham riverside. The sun shone. Lots of bubbles flowed. Everyone seemed happy. Many old friends were gathered
I realise this is apropos of nothing but for me it was a reminder that in an apparently dark world a billion simple but beautiful things happen daily.
I will now switch off my “Radio 4 vicar” mode
Leavers may be shifting away from the Tories, but Remainers are not shifting to them.
"When you do something beautiful and nobody noticed, do not be sad. For the sun, every morning is a beautiful spectacle and yet most of the audience still sleeps." - John Lennon
Also the wedding list can be ignored. They’ve already got nice cutlery
It’s only imperialism if you did it a hundred years ago.
I've been point this to @Leon and others who have been foolishly suggesting that China won't want to see Putin fail.
China has every desire to see Russia fail. China and Russia aren't friends and allies, they're historic threats and rivals.
Revanchist China has every motivation to claim historic Chinese territory that is currently Russian.
Russia being disarmed and defeated in the West serves Chinese interests and ambitions in the East.
And the impact on the "united" bit of the UK remains to be seen, notably but not only in NI.
Rejoin isn't polling in unprompted polls, nor are any proxies for it (unlike pre-2016).
Shame for @dixiedean he scored in the wrong net.
Nobody bought us a thing. We didn't need it. No trimmings, so plenty of dosh left to spend on bubbly.
Yes, it was all very happy making.
Sigh.
They could at least try and be subtle about their ‘journey’.
As a sovereign and independent country it is entirely up to us whether or how we choose to "sort out" customs.
We could choose to waive customs checks from here until eternity, and we'd remain out, that's the point of sovereignty we get to choose what our priorities are rather than having another institution determine what our priorities and checks are.
Correction, I am sinking my second pint of Wishbone Brewery Abyss. A very nice pint. And 37075 is about to lift us out of Keighley for the third time today.
Happy days.
We have left, we are not going back, but Starmer's silence and inertia in terms of single market membership, FOM and membership of EU bodies we belonged to prior to our joining the Common Market is disgraceful.
What is particularly wicked is, like Johnson before him, Starmer doesn't believe in Brexit, but supports it out of personal political expediency. At least Rishi is a true believer, which I don't agree with, but I appreciate his honesty.
Nor does it appear on the specific UK front page
Dig even deeper and it doesn’t even appear on the UK Business page
Quite remarkable. This is a story that upends much of the post-Brexit, Britain-is-bust, sick-man-of-Europe narrative of the last three years. Nowhere to be seen
They did a few terse paragraphs yesterday afternoon then buried it. I get that it makes them uncomfortable - I get that the GDP revision doesn’t suddenly make everything rosy, nor does it mean Britain is thriving like it’s 1999 (if only) - but still. This looks a bit like denial
"We don't really need to worry about all those things we Brexiters were going on and on about for decades" isn't entirely a convincing argument.
Especially when sovereignty over a large chunk of the former UK has been signed away in part.
I couldn't care less if those checks are waived indefinitely. So long as the UK can implement its own laws domestically, I have no objections whatsoever to recognising EU imports as an equivalence while not being bound to EU laws.
It’s quite an effective predictor: tho not flawless
Some (most?) of the happiest weddings I’ve been to have been the least grand - 30 people in a pub, etc
Even if we did rejoin it would hardly be on the same terms we had before.
Pretending you don't want them is just not a reasonable argument.
STAY OUT = Luton
I think the biggest controversy at my wedding was that I cut the guest list a lot. We each had ~25 people to invite which meant most of my extended family didn't make it.
There are too many enormous obstacles. They’d want us in the euro and Schengen (so we’re locked in forever); the EU itself is busy Federalising (making it even less appealing); any EU country could veto; no one wants to go through all that bitterness again
It’s done
Kids: don’t book Westminster Abbey. Have forty friends and fam down the boozer, with a nice beer garden - and enjoy the honeymoon
In other Russian news, the SMO has come home to the A-Level syllabus. Some students (none of mine) have been marked down for translating 'Mалорусский' as 'Ukrainian' when the correct translation is 'Little Russian'. It's particularly relevant when discussing the character Nakhodka in Maxim Gorky's 'Mother'. There is now a Bakhmut scale fight going on over whether the woke version ('Ukrainian') should supplant the accurate one ('Little Russian').
I hate weddings. Your whole day is fucked and you often don't even get home in time for MotD.
I can drive a Right Hand Drive vehicle that is different to Europeans Left Hand Drive vehicles, even if others import and drive Left Hand Drive vehicles.
Or I can choose to buy goods measured in kg even if others choose to buy goods measured in lb.
No reason that can't apply to other goods and services too.
We can have our own domestic standards that we apply, and if people aren't happy with that and import foreign standards, then there's nothing wrong with that at all.
"One size fits all" is one of the worst things about the EU. When the EEC began it was about recognising standards as equivalents, not unifying them, a return to that is to be welcomed.
More choice. That's a good thing, not a bad thing.
My own wedding cost maybe £300
Two guests + two witnesses. Then oysters at Sheekeys
And the 3 year marriage was blissfully happy and we only got divorced coz she wants kids and I’ve had mine. We were still very happy
I think the best advice I've been given and give to people who want wedding advice is simple - if you make the best day of your life your wedding day then everything from then on is downhill.
Its not "going" anywhere at all as its already finished, its gone well, but having gone well, its still time to move on.
Putting this with the wedding conversation, our wedding day wife was probably my third-best and most important day of my life (behind subsequent birth of each child) but having done that I'm not exactly looking to do it again. Its done now. We're happily married, there's no reason for us to keep redoing our wedding every day to maintain that.
Having done that once is enough. Brexit is done, having done it, no reason to redo it, or revisit it. Its all good, lets move on to next steps.
If I was 20 years younger I could be the next Greta Thunberg.
The Tories have been captured by the RSPCA and refuse to do it. Fuck the Tories. This is an open goal for Starmer. Just say you will ban these monstrous things. Polls show a ban is broadly popular. Do it
Perhaps not the best political slogan ever.
(And I doubt that London Conservatives have that attitude towards, say, ULEZ expansion.)
We are European as in the continent, we are no more European as in EU than Canadians are "Americans".
The UK isn't Rhode Island, the UK is Canada.
As a sovereign country its our choice whether we put up customs posts or not, we are not obliged to do so. Many countries choose not to.
Then a meal for two in a private dining room.
Over the next couple of days we told our parents.
That was 10 years ago.
Cost little really on top of the holiday. It was fabulous.
The most lavish wedding I went to was a Hindu wedding in a place called Hockley in Birmingham. Not a place I’d rush back to. But the wedding was fabulous. A large bottle of whiskey on every table. Fantastic food. Just a great vibe.
And for a Brucie Bonus, we've fecked the planet.
As an aside, a couple sitting across the aisle discussing whether there are any alternatives to capitalism.
And given what people tend to consider poverty now, versus the absolute subsistence level of large proportions of human society throughout history, I would be very skeptical that the day to day experience is worse, outside the absolute worst places in the world today.
And it's not as though people who poo poo the Industrial Revolution want to live in a world where we don't have the modern comforts that have come out of it, so even if they lament the cost it has had, they're not really against that it happened to enable our present lifestyles.
As for the couple discussing alternatives to capitalism, I'm sure there is - I just hope they don't go for an option which has proven it never works in practice only in theory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6svYWcOP__k
However Starmer has clearly won back many redwall Leave voters now Brexit is done and Corbyn and Boris have gone.Some Remainers who voted Tory in 2019 to keep out Corbyn are now willing to vote Starmer Labour or LD, while Sunak was still a Leaver of course
And I'm stopping after the third pint.
https://www.timesnownews.com/business-economy/companies/article/rs-100-crore-bill-for-a-marriage-yes-it-is-possible-if-you-are-ambanis/329754
Alternative is what?
PS And I know, I know. I live in sheep country. I've had to rescue a sheep that ran straight through a barbed wire fence when being worried down in Dorset, too, and that was an ordinary mutt or labrador or something.
Trump 59
DeSantis 13
Haley 8
Ramaswamy 5
Christie 3
Pence 2
Scott 2
78% of Rs: Trump efforts to overturn election "legitimate"
Trump 46
Biden 46 (in general)
https://x.com/joshkraushaar/status/1697970219568763277
Anyway I am sure he will be delighted if Labour brings in a wealth tax on expensive London property and higher taxes for those on 6-figure incomes from the City.
Never mind all that.
A beach. A 13-year old dog. Sunshine.
Simple pleasures.
Jordan of course has had lots of very expensive weddings and equally expensive divorces
Which was nice.
So the problem for the Tories is now more that some Leavers are voting Starmer Labour or RefUK, under FPTP 39% could even get them a majority again. Only if support for Brexit falls to 25-30% or less would the Tories even consider abandoning support for it and maybe not even then