“ @ Leon claims he is going to a variety of areas but as far as I can tell he is doing the US equivalent of travelling from Bradford to Hull”
You seem to have forgotten I spent four days on the east coast including 3 in the nation’s capital, which is literally the richest place in the USA
Moreover, I have in the last two years been to Florida California Arizona Utah Colorado Mississippi Louisiana Alabama Tennessee and New York. I suspect I have seen more of America than you guys who live there. Which makes sense. I come here to travel and experience America, you live and work here with families and when you want an American holiday you go to an obviously nice affluent bit - like upscale New England
I stand by my judgment. Parts of the east coast are doing just fine. Flourishing and opulent. As I’ve said before Alexandria VA was the nicest of all the towns I visited. It could have been a quietly ritzy town in Austria or Australia. DC was boring (museums apart) but still clearly wealthy
But go inland to the more neglected bits and it is very different. And even some of the richer cities - Denver is a prime example - have desolate downtowns. Destroyed by covid and now predated by drugs and druggies
I will admit to being surprised by Denver. But otherwise, I kind of feel you are majoring on poorer areas. And the US is so big that its poorer areas are commensurately bigger.
Of course the US is quite terrifyingly unequal, but I feel you are missing the massive tracts of suburban housing, where people live quite happily in 3000 sq ft houses and two or three cars.
Which makes sense, because why would any tourist go to Picket Fence, New York or it’s equivalents?
“ @ Leon claims he is going to a variety of areas but as far as I can tell he is doing the US equivalent of travelling from Bradford to Hull”
You seem to have forgotten I spent four days on the east coast including 3 in the nation’s capital, which is literally the richest place in the USA
Moreover, I have in the last two years been to Florida California Arizona Utah Colorado Mississippi Louisiana Alabama Tennessee and New York. I suspect I have seen more of America than you guys who live there. Which makes sense. I come here to travel and experience America, you live and work here with families and when you want an American holiday you go to an obviously nice affluent bit - like upscale New England
I stand by my judgment. Parts of the east coast are doing just fine. Flourishing and opulent. As I’ve said before Alexandria VA was the nicest of all the towns I visited. It could have been a quietly ritzy town in Austria or Australia. DC was boring (museums apart) but still clearly wealthy
But go inland to the more neglected bits and it is very different. And even some of the richer cities - Denver is a prime example - have desolate downtowns. Destroyed by covid and now predated by drugs and druggies
I will admit to being surprised by Denver. But otherwise, I kind of feel you are majoring on poorer areas. And the US is so big that its poorer areas are commensurately bigger.
Of course the US is quite terrifyingly unequal, but I feel you are missing the massive tracts of suburban housing, where people live quite happily in 3000 sq ft houses and two or three cars.
Which makes sense, because why would any tourist go to Picket Fence, New York or it’s equivalents?
Well the us standard of living is quite a bit higher than the uk.
Lockdowns will come to be seen as the biggest blunder in British political history, only second to austerity.
Didnt you support lockdowns as did most of pb.
In the later years of the internet we have become used to trolls who have a clear agenda, partisan position. However, back in the early days of the internet, the archetypal troll simply wanted to provoke others to gain attention.
It's rare these days to spot such pure example of the ancestral breed of troll.
Does anybody really believe that Labour are on 48%? I don't.
The Tories had a bad week thanks to Boris, yet again. Hopefully the worst of that is finally over. So far we have had a police report, the Sue Gray report and the Privileges committee report all saying the same things in numbing detail. It's getting beyond dull. But maybe someone else should investigate so we can pretend to be outraged all over again.
Only an extreme Tory devotee would be generous enough to pen that.
Most voters I suspect would hang the lot of them without a second thought. Even twice if that's what it took!
As I have said in another post I expect Labour to get a small majority. But this confected outrage about Boris is getting wearying. Everyone knew he was a liar. Repeatedly confirming it is pointless.
I see no 10 is throwing out some meat for the angry mob to feed on . The latest in the “ immigrants are taking your jobs , housing , healthcare “ apparently if it wasn’t for those horrible migrants then there would be plentiful council houses for Brits.
Of course this is just deflecting from the fact that there’s a huge shortfall in housing , instead of trying to fix the problem the Tories gave up long ago and have gone to their default peddle hate and division .
We can see the outlines of the next GE campaign ,it’s going to be a disgusting hate filled campaign by the Tories pitting different groups against each other .
This shower really need to be shown the door before they rip the soul out of the UK .
Rishi will skip the vote tomorrow, according to the Times. Not fit to govern.
This 'nothing to see here it's all old hat' as expressed by David and others is really quite extraordinary. The point is that we haven't seen it all before. To most of us this is behaviour from a government and a Prime Minister that is unique.
In fact if it wasn't for fatigue we'd be making a much bigger fuss. A lot of people will be asking themselves if we really want this 'born to rule' mob ruling us ever again.
Someone mentioned Sunak's achievement in marrying a billionaires daughter. There's something very rotten afoot which it's taking people a while to compute. Let's hope a simple change of government will be enough
“ @ Leon claims he is going to a variety of areas but as far as I can tell he is doing the US equivalent of travelling from Bradford to Hull”
You seem to have forgotten I spent four days on the east coast including 3 in the nation’s capital, which is literally the richest place in the USA
Moreover, I have in the last two years been to Florida California Arizona Utah Colorado Mississippi Louisiana Alabama Tennessee and New York. I suspect I have seen more of America than you guys who live there. Which makes sense. I come here to travel and experience America, you live and work here with families and when you want an American holiday you go to an obviously nice affluent bit - like upscale New England
I stand by my judgment. Parts of the east coast are doing just fine. Flourishing and opulent. As I’ve said before Alexandria VA was the nicest of all the towns I visited. It could have been a quietly ritzy town in Austria or Australia. DC was boring (museums apart) but still clearly wealthy
But go inland to the more neglected bits and it is very different. And even some of the richer cities - Denver is a prime example - have desolate downtowns. Destroyed by covid and now predated by drugs and druggies
I will admit to being surprised by Denver. But otherwise, I kind of feel you are majoring on poorer areas. And the US is so big that its poorer areas are commensurately bigger.
Of course the US is quite terrifyingly unequal, but I feel you are missing the massive tracts of suburban housing, where people live quite happily in 3000 sq ft houses and two or three cars.
Which makes sense, because why would any tourist go to Picket Fence, New York or it’s equivalents?
I'm really not majoring on poorer areas., FFS. Look at the list. I've been to some of the richest states in the Union: Colorado, New York, California, Utah, Maryland, DC. I generally go where I am sent by the Gazette, apart from this roadtrip, where I chose to see parts of America I have not seen (not because they are poor, but because I've never had the chance)
And I understand that America has lovely green suburbs with big houses. I see them
But if you want to understand why half of America is voting for Trump then perhaps my honest experiences of the poorer parts of the USA have some value
I have also had a hoot. Americans are so friendly. It's a great place to tour, even if it is in imperial decline
Rishi will skip the vote tomorrow, according to the Times. Not fit to govern.
This 'nothing to see here it's all old hat' as expressed by David and others is really quite extraordinary. The point is that we haven't seen it all before. To most of us this is behaviour from a government and a Prime Minister that is unique.
In fact if it wasn't for fatigue we'd be making a much bigger fuss. A lot of people will be asking themselves if we really want this 'born to rule' mob ruling us ever again.
Someone mentioned Sunak's achievement in marrying a billionaires daughter. There's something very rotten afoot and it's taking people a while to compute it. Let's hope a simple change of government will be enough
The point is if you as a govt move from one outrahe to another the public eventually become demoralised and apathetic. Thats the goal.
For the first time in many years I have builders chasing up me to do work. Managed to get work arranged in a few days on one project (a very good builder, albeit at a premium) and on another, roofers are calling up asking for updates on the quotes they submitted. This is in affluent areas of England. Not seen this for a decade, for all this time it has been impossible to find builders. I hope that I am wrong but my instincts are telling me that this is a sign that we are at the start of a serious recession.
“ @ Leon claims he is going to a variety of areas but as far as I can tell he is doing the US equivalent of travelling from Bradford to Hull”
You seem to have forgotten I spent four days on the east coast including 3 in the nation’s capital, which is literally the richest place in the USA
Moreover, I have in the last two years been to Florida California Arizona Utah Colorado Mississippi Louisiana Alabama Tennessee and New York. I suspect I have seen more of America than you guys who live there. Which makes sense. I come here to travel and experience America, you live and work here with families and when you want an American holiday you go to an obviously nice affluent bit - like upscale New England
I stand by my judgment. Parts of the east coast are doing just fine. Flourishing and opulent. As I’ve said before Alexandria VA was the nicest of all the towns I visited. It could have been a quietly ritzy town in Austria or Australia. DC was boring (museums apart) but still clearly wealthy
But go inland to the more neglected bits and it is very different. And even some of the richer cities - Denver is a prime example - have desolate downtowns. Destroyed by covid and now predated by drugs and druggies
I will admit to being surprised by Denver. But otherwise, I kind of feel you are majoring on poorer areas. And the US is so big that its poorer areas are commensurately bigger.
Of course the US is quite terrifyingly unequal, but I feel you are missing the massive tracts of suburban housing, where people live quite happily in 3000 sq ft houses and two or three cars.
Which makes sense, because why would any tourist go to Picket Fence, New York or it’s equivalents?
I'm really not majoring on poorer areas., FFS. Look at the list. I've been to some of the richest states in the Union: Colorado, New York, California, Utah, Maryland, DC. I generally go where I am sent by the Gazette, apart from this roadtrip, where I chose to see parts of America I have not seen (not because they are poor, but because I've never had the chance)
And I understand that America has lovely green suburbs with big houses. I see them
But if you want to understand why half of America is voting for Trump then perhaps my honest experiences of the poorer parts of the USA have some value
I have also had a hoot. Americans are so friendly. It's a great place to tour, even if it is in imperial decline
If you’re poor and vote for Trump then you get what you deserve . How thick are these people when they vote for a party that spends most of its time trying to make their lives worse . I gave up trying to understand their so called concerns when they act like turkeys voting for Christmas .
Rishi will skip the vote tomorrow, according to the Times. Not fit to govern.
This 'nothing to see here it's all old hat' as expressed by David and others is really quite extraordinary. The point is that we haven't seen it all before. To most of us this is behaviour from a government and a Prime Minister that is unique.
In fact if it wasn't for fatigue we'd be making a much bigger fuss. A lot of people will be asking themselves if we really want this 'born to rule' mob ruling us ever again.
Someone mentioned Sunak's achievement in marrying a billionaires daughter. There's something very rotten afoot and it's taking people a while to compute it. Let's hope a simple change of government will be enough
The point is if you as a govt move from one outrahe to another the public eventually become demoralised and apathetic. Thats the goal.
I can see how that would work if a government created a situation where a strongman ruler couldn't be toppled at an election, no matter how outrageous his behaviour, or how much suffering he inflicted on his people.
Thoughts and prayers with people stuck in nations like that, especially if they have to try and justify the actions of said outrageous (so called) strongmen. After all, we're ultimately lucky in the UK. Boris has gone now, even if it's regrettable he was ever there at all.
For the first time in many years I have builders chasing up me to do work. Managed to get work arranged in a few days on one project (a very good builder, albeit at a premium) and on another, roofers are calling up asking for updates on the quotes they submitted. This is in affluent areas of England. Not seen this for a decade, for all this time it has been impossible to find builders. I hope that I am wrong but my instincts are telling me that this is a sign that we are at the start of a serious recession.
Yes when i got my car serviced a month ago they called me back afterward asking how satisfied i was and they were incredibly nice too. Im sure i havent become that much more charming in the past year.
Curious how much the Tories have dominated politics in recent times, given how unpopular their leaders have been. Only Major (hah!) has bucked the trend.
I see no 10 is throwing out some meat for the angry mob to feed on . The latest in the “ immigrants are taking your jobs , housing , healthcare “ apparently if it wasn’t for those horrible migrants then there would be plentiful council houses for Brits.
Of course this is just deflecting from the fact that there’s a huge shortfall in housing , instead of trying to fix the problem the Tories gave up long ago and have gone to their default peddle hate and division .
We can see the outlines of the next GE campaign ,it’s going to be a disgusting hate filled campaign by the Tories pitting different groups against each other .
This shower really need to be shown the door before they rip the soul out of the UK .
I'm a Bevanite in my feelings about the Tory party, but good luck to Labour if they want to run their campaign on there's a housing shortfall versus there are too many foreigners here.
Anyway there's not a housing shortage. There are ample houses in Britain for everyone to live in comfortably. The more high-end a house is, the more likely it is to be unoccupied at a given time. It would be in the interests of most people if there were a government that cracked down on both moneylenders and landlords. It's the banks that are the reason why house prices are so extraordinarily high, and it's the free rein given by the government to landlords that's the reason why rents are so high. Boot them and boot them hard. Nationalise. Raise inheritance tax on the top 10% of estates to the skies. Abolish beneficial ownership overnight. Of course Labour is not about to say anything like this. Even in their last manifesto which was better in many ways than the party's preceding manifestos, there was sh*te such as create a million "climate change" jobs and about a dozen references to transsexuals. As if people who can't afford to pay their rent and don't know whether they and their children are going to be sleeping on friends' sofas within a year want to hear about the f*cking climate changing and the needs of men who wear bras and panties and want their willies cut off and everyone to pretend they're "women".
PS You don't sound like a monarchist. Why do you call the country by the name of the monarchist regime that currently prevails here?
“ @ Leon claims he is going to a variety of areas but as far as I can tell he is doing the US equivalent of travelling from Bradford to Hull”
You seem to have forgotten I spent four days on the east coast including 3 in the nation’s capital, which is literally the richest place in the USA
Moreover, I have in the last two years been to Florida California Arizona Utah Colorado Mississippi Louisiana Alabama Tennessee and New York. I suspect I have seen more of America than you guys who live there. Which makes sense. I come here to travel and experience America, you live and work here with families and when you want an American holiday you go to an obviously nice affluent bit - like upscale New England
I stand by my judgment. Parts of the east coast are doing just fine. Flourishing and opulent. As I’ve said before Alexandria VA was the nicest of all the towns I visited. It could have been a quietly ritzy town in Austria or Australia. DC was boring (museums apart) but still clearly wealthy
But go inland to the more neglected bits and it is very different. And even some of the richer cities - Denver is a prime example - have desolate downtowns. Destroyed by covid and now predated by drugs and druggies
I will admit to being surprised by Denver. But otherwise, I kind of feel you are majoring on poorer areas. And the US is so big that its poorer areas are commensurately bigger.
Of course the US is quite terrifyingly unequal, but I feel you are missing the massive tracts of suburban housing, where people live quite happily in 3000 sq ft houses and two or three cars.
Which makes sense, because why would any tourist go to Picket Fence, New York or it’s equivalents?
I'm really not majoring on poorer areas., FFS. Look at the list. I've been to some of the richest states in the Union: Colorado, New York, California, Utah, Maryland, DC. I generally go where I am sent by the Gazette, apart from this roadtrip, where I chose to see parts of America I have not seen (not because they are poor, but because I've never had the chance)
And I understand that America has lovely green suburbs with big houses. I see them
But if you want to understand why half of America is voting for Trump then perhaps my honest experiences of the poorer parts of the USA have some value
I have also had a hoot. Americans are so friendly. It's a great place to tour, even if it is in imperial decline
Americans are the best outside of some areas notably the new york new jersey area.
“ @ Leon claims he is going to a variety of areas but as far as I can tell he is doing the US equivalent of travelling from Bradford to Hull”
You seem to have forgotten I spent four days on the east coast including 3 in the nation’s capital, which is literally the richest place in the USA
Moreover, I have in the last two years been to Florida California Arizona Utah Colorado Mississippi Louisiana Alabama Tennessee and New York. I suspect I have seen more of America than you guys who live there. Which makes sense. I come here to travel and experience America, you live and work here with families and when you want an American holiday you go to an obviously nice affluent bit - like upscale New England
I stand by my judgment. Parts of the east coast are doing just fine. Flourishing and opulent. As I’ve said before Alexandria VA was the nicest of all the towns I visited. It could have been a quietly ritzy town in Austria or Australia. DC was boring (museums apart) but still clearly wealthy
But go inland to the more neglected bits and it is very different. And even some of the richer cities - Denver is a prime example - have desolate downtowns. Destroyed by covid and now predated by drugs and druggies
I will admit to being surprised by Denver. But otherwise, I kind of feel you are majoring on poorer areas. And the US is so big that its poorer areas are commensurately bigger.
Of course the US is quite terrifyingly unequal, but I feel you are missing the massive tracts of suburban housing, where people live quite happily in 3000 sq ft houses and two or three cars.
Which makes sense, because why would any tourist go to Picket Fence, New York or it’s equivalents?
I'm really not majoring on poorer areas., FFS. Look at the list. I've been to some of the richest states in the Union: Colorado, New York, California, Utah, Maryland, DC. I generally go where I am sent by the Gazette, apart from this roadtrip, where I chose to see parts of America I have not seen (not because they are poor, but because I've never had the chance)
And I understand that America has lovely green suburbs with big houses. I see them
But if you want to understand why half of America is voting for Trump then perhaps my honest experiences of the poorer parts of the USA have some value
I have also had a hoot. Americans are so friendly. It's a great place to tour, even if it is in imperial decline
Nope.
Biden won massively in lower-income voters. Higher income voters went to Trump.
Fair enough. I can't argue with the data - that honestly surprises me in its starkness. Yet we know that Red states are poorer than Blue states, so it must be richer angry people in Red states voting Trump?
Plus the racial division. Trump won the white vote by 58-41. Quite astonishing
“ @ Leon claims he is going to a variety of areas but as far as I can tell he is doing the US equivalent of travelling from Bradford to Hull”
You seem to have forgotten I spent four days on the east coast including 3 in the nation’s capital, which is literally the richest place in the USA
Moreover, I have in the last two years been to Florida California Arizona Utah Colorado Mississippi Louisiana Alabama Tennessee and New York. I suspect I have seen more of America than you guys who live there. Which makes sense. I come here to travel and experience America, you live and work here with families and when you want an American holiday you go to an obviously nice affluent bit - like upscale New England
I stand by my judgment. Parts of the east coast are doing just fine. Flourishing and opulent. As I’ve said before Alexandria VA was the nicest of all the towns I visited. It could have been a quietly ritzy town in Austria or Australia. DC was boring (museums apart) but still clearly wealthy
But go inland to the more neglected bits and it is very different. And even some of the richer cities - Denver is a prime example - have desolate downtowns. Destroyed by covid and now predated by drugs and druggies
I will admit to being surprised by Denver. But otherwise, I kind of feel you are majoring on poorer areas. And the US is so big that its poorer areas are commensurately bigger.
Of course the US is quite terrifyingly unequal, but I feel you are missing the massive tracts of suburban housing, where people live quite happily in 3000 sq ft houses and two or three cars.
Which makes sense, because why would any tourist go to Picket Fence, New York or it’s equivalents?
I'm really not majoring on poorer areas., FFS. Look at the list. I've been to some of the richest states in the Union: Colorado, New York, California, Utah, Maryland, DC. I generally go where I am sent by the Gazette, apart from this roadtrip, where I chose to see parts of America I have not seen (not because they are poor, but because I've never had the chance)
And I understand that America has lovely green suburbs with big houses. I see them
But if you want to understand why half of America is voting for Trump then perhaps my honest experiences of the poorer parts of the USA have some value
I have also had a hoot. Americans are so friendly. It's a great place to tour, even if it is in imperial decline
Nope.
Biden won massively in lower-income voters. Higher income voters went to Trump.
Those stats are in no way definitive. it is 54 Biden 44 Trump for lower (sub $50k) income. Arguably the story there is that a large proportion of voters are voting against their economic self interest (It we accept the established wisdom that voting democrat is in their self interest).
40% of union households voting Trump - another interesting statistic.
“ @ Leon claims he is going to a variety of areas but as far as I can tell he is doing the US equivalent of travelling from Bradford to Hull”
You seem to have forgotten I spent four days on the east coast including 3 in the nation’s capital, which is literally the richest place in the USA
Moreover, I have in the last two years been to Florida California Arizona Utah Colorado Mississippi Louisiana Alabama Tennessee and New York. I suspect I have seen more of America than you guys who live there. Which makes sense. I come here to travel and experience America, you live and work here with families and when you want an American holiday you go to an obviously nice affluent bit - like upscale New England
I stand by my judgment. Parts of the east coast are doing just fine. Flourishing and opulent. As I’ve said before Alexandria VA was the nicest of all the towns I visited. It could have been a quietly ritzy town in Austria or Australia. DC was boring (museums apart) but still clearly wealthy
But go inland to the more neglected bits and it is very different. And even some of the richer cities - Denver is a prime example - have desolate downtowns. Destroyed by covid and now predated by drugs and druggies
I will admit to being surprised by Denver. But otherwise, I kind of feel you are majoring on poorer areas. And the US is so big that its poorer areas are commensurately bigger.
Of course the US is quite terrifyingly unequal, but I feel you are missing the massive tracts of suburban housing, where people live quite happily in 3000 sq ft houses and two or three cars.
Which makes sense, because why would any tourist go to Picket Fence, New York or it’s equivalents?
I'm really not majoring on poorer areas., FFS. Look at the list. I've been to some of the richest states in the Union: Colorado, New York, California, Utah, Maryland, DC. I generally go where I am sent by the Gazette, apart from this roadtrip, where I chose to see parts of America I have not seen (not because they are poor, but because I've never had the chance)
And I understand that America has lovely green suburbs with big houses. I see them
But if you want to understand why half of America is voting for Trump then perhaps my honest experiences of the poorer parts of the USA have some value
I have also had a hoot. Americans are so friendly. It's a great place to tour, even if it is in imperial decline
Nope.
Biden won massively in lower-income voters. Higher income voters went to Trump.
Fair enough. I can't argue with the data - that honestly surprises me in its starkness. Yet we know that Red states are poorer than Blue states, so it must be richer angry people in Red states voting Trump?
Plus the racial division. Trump won the white vote by 58-41. Quite astonishing
Of course there are a lot of democrat voting ethnic minorities in the blue states. And im sure many high earning finance types quietly vote Trump.
Trump has hoovered up both affluent and low-income voters, it seems to me.
But he's also a symptom of several things, I think ; a pathologically propagandist media ecosystem, hugely centred around FoxNews but also encompassing many other outlets too now, that blames almost everything on a nebulously defined "liberal elite" rather than the right, and plutocratically prescribes ever more free-market fundamentalism as the cure, rather than the disease ; and then there's a subset of the both more affluent and liberal who are indeed too insulated from the poverty elsewhere, and often acquiesce with this free-market fundamentalism in favour much more heavily nowadays of culturally -based politics, sometimes in clearly good causes and at other times not as clearly so.
Trump has hoovered up both affluent and low-income voters, as far as I can see.
But he's also a symptom of several things, I think ; a pathologically propagandist media ecosystem, hugely centred around FoxNews but also encompassing many other outlets too now, that blames almost everything on a nebulously defined liberal elitism rather than the right, and prescribes ever more free-market fundamentalism as the cure, rather than the disease ; and then there's a subset of the both more affluent and liberal who are indeed too insulated from the poverty elsewhere, and often acquiesce with this free-market fundamentalism in favour much more heavily nowadays of culturally -based politics.
Demonisation of the "liberal" "elite", or anti-intellectualism as it manifests when viewed from a certain angle, is based on boosting the feeling of "Away with all your poncy long words", which equates to "I'm stupid and I'm proud, because what I am is REAL". Huge licence was given to that kind of attitude in the USA in 2016 and it has hardly diminished since. As the psychological state of a crowd, it's really scary because what may well happen next is a bloodbath - whoop, whoop, whoop - and not just a few hundred role-playing plonkers entering the Capitol.
For the first time in many years I have builders chasing up me to do work. Managed to get work arranged in a few days on one project (a very good builder, albeit at a premium) and on another, roofers are calling up asking for updates on the quotes they submitted. This is in affluent areas of England. Not seen this for a decade, for all this time it has been impossible to find builders. I hope that I am wrong but my instincts are telling me that this is a sign that we are at the start of a serious recession.
Interesting one this, because there is a counterveiling narrative: when transaction volumes fall because people can't afford to move to a larger house, they tend instead to pay for improvements or extensions to their current house.
I am not trolling and everyone who knows me here would agree.
I supported lockdowns at the time. I was wrong, I have changed my mind. Please allow me some respect for being open about it. So many aren’t.
You have certainly been trolling this evening. Fuck the Aussies? Please. If you're going to do it at least follow up with it. Don't just dip your toe in and then come out with that kind of self-pitying "please respect me" nonsense. Make up your mind.
Yes fuck them, I’m getting into the pro-England sentiment at the Ashes. What’s your issue?
When I said I opposed lockdowns I meant it. In hindsight they were wrong.
Trump has hoovered up both affluent and low-income voters, as far as I can see.
But he's also a symptom of several things, I think ; a pathologically propagandist media ecosystem, hugely centred around FoxNews but also encompassing many other outlets too now, that blames almost everything on a nebulously defined liberal elitism rather than the right, and prescribes ever more free-market fundamentalism as the cure, rather than the disease ; and then there's a subset of the both more affluent and liberal who are indeed too insulated from the poverty elsewhere, and often acquiesce with this free-market fundamentalism in favour much more heavily nowadays of culturally -based politics.
Demonisation of the "liberal" "elite", or anti-intellectualism as it manifests when viewed from a certain angle, is based on boosting the feeling of "Away with all your poncy long words", which equates to "I'm stupid and I'm proud, because what I am is REAL". Huge licence was given to that kind of attitude in the USA in 2016 and it has hardly diminished since. As the psychological state of a crowd, it's really scary because what may well happen next is a bloodbath - whoop, whoop, whoop - and not just a few hundred role-playing plonkers entering the Capitol.
Many of the elites though are also stupid. Educated but stupid.
I am not trolling and everyone who knows me here would agree.
I supported lockdowns at the time. I was wrong, I have changed my mind. Please allow me some respect for being open about it. So many aren’t.
Lockdowns is an example of where the negatives are very visible in hindsight but the positives are not. We're alive, but we take that for granted.
I doubt lockdowns were a blanket mistake but probably they could have been done in a smarter way.
Not to sound like a selfish youngster but quite honestly what have they done for my age group beyond ruin the economy and make us have huge social and educational problems?
Trump has hoovered up both affluent and low-income voters, it seems to me.
But he's also a symptom of several things, I think ; a pathologically propagandist media ecosystem, hugely centred around FoxNews but also encompassing many other outlets too now, that blames almost everything on a nebulously defined "liberal elite" rather than the right, and plutocratically prescribes ever more free-market fundamentalism as the cure, rather than the disease ; and then there's a subset of the both more affluent and liberal who are indeed too insulated from the poverty elsewhere, and often acquiesce with this free-market fundamentalism in favour much more heavily nowadays of culturally -based politics, sometimes in clearly good causes and at other times not as clearly so.
Tucker Carlson on twitter now insuating Barack Obama is gay too.
Curious how much the Tories have dominated politics in recent times, given how unpopular their leaders have been. Only Major (hah!) has bucked the trend.
Have read the linked guidance from the Sun. Hopefully, that's just the Sun's spin on it and the official stuff will be more nuanced. But if that is anywhere near the policy that will be imposed, then I'll find another job. I won't be alone. My whole career has been about keeping children safe. I will not be outing them to potentially violent parents for Tory culture war comfort. Good luck filling the teacher vacancies.
I am not trolling and everyone who knows me here would agree.
I supported lockdowns at the time. I was wrong, I have changed my mind. Please allow me some respect for being open about it. So many aren’t.
Lockdowns is an example of where the negatives are very visible in hindsight but the positives are not. We're alive, but we take that for granted.
I doubt lockdowns were a blanket mistake but probably they could have been done in a smarter way.
Not to sound like a selfish youngster but quite honestly what have they done for my age group beyond ruin the economy and make us have huge social and educational problems?
You are not selfish. Im certain that when the baby boomers were young they would not have put up with lockdowns.
Labour policy has shifted again, will now allow new oil
It really is quite hard to keep up...
Given his record of u-turning, Starmer is unknowable as a potential Prime Minister and his word cannot be trusted.
We simply do not know what we would be getting under a Labour government.
He's a lawyer, which gives us a clue. He knowingly lies for a living. He's also quite ruthless
So I reckon we will get pragmatic managerialism, with a few left wing baubles to appease the troops (eg attacking private schools), and a dash of Wokery (but he will have to be really careful, this shit will annoy people)
More interesting is what he will do with intractable problems like our EU relations, and the boat people
I'm not outing kids to their parents. It's a resignation issue for me.
Who has the legal and moral responsibility to ensure that children are educated and raised - is it the parents or is it the employees of some outfit or either that the parents hired and can decide to sack with immediate effect if they so wish? Just resign. No parent asked you to keep children's mental problems a secret from them just because they hired your employers to get you to teach them a bit of geography or whatever.
Labour policy has shifted again, will now allow new oil
It really is quite hard to keep up...
Given his record of u-turning, Starmer is unknowable as a potential Prime Minister and his word cannot be trusted.
We simply do not know what we would be getting under a Labour government.
He's a lawyer, which gives us a clue. He knowingly lies for a living. He's also quite ruthless
So I reckon we will get pragmatic managerialism, with a few left wing baubles to appease the troops (eg attacking private schools), and a dash of Wokery (but he will have to be really careful, this shit will annoy people)
More interesting is what he will do with intractable problems like our EU relations, and the boat people
Im more worried about how Angela Rayner will perform.
I'm not outing kids to their parents. It's a resignation issue for me.
Who has the legal and moral responsibility to ensure that children are educated and raised - is it the parents or is it the employees of some outfit or either that the parents hired and can decide to sack with immediate effect if they so wish? Just resign. No parent asked you to keep children's mental problems a secret from them just because they hired your employers to get you to teach them a bit of geography or whatever.
Fine. I'm sure you'll be wonderful in your new Special Needs role. "Mental and secret" is a bit of a red flag. You sound ideal.
Have read the linked guidance from the Sun. Hopefully, that's just the Sun's spin on it and the official stuff will be more nuanced. But if that is anywhere near the policy that will be imposed, then I'll find another job. I won't be alone. My whole career has been about keeping children safe. I will not be outing them to potentially violent parents for Tory culture war comfort. Good luck filling the teacher vacancies.
If a kid is exhibiting mental health issues it is your duty to alert the parents
Trump has hoovered up both affluent and low-income voters, as far as I can see.
But he's also a symptom of several things, I think ; a pathologically propagandist media ecosystem, hugely centred around FoxNews but also encompassing many other outlets too now, that blames almost everything on a nebulously defined liberal elitism rather than the right, and prescribes ever more free-market fundamentalism as the cure, rather than the disease ; and then there's a subset of the both more affluent and liberal who are indeed too insulated from the poverty elsewhere, and often acquiesce with this free-market fundamentalism in favour much more heavily nowadays of culturally -based politics.
Demonisation of the "liberal" "elite", or anti-intellectualism as it manifests when viewed from a certain angle, is based on boosting the feeling of "Away with all your poncy long words", which equates to "I'm stupid and I'm proud, because what I am is REAL". Huge licence was given to that kind of attitude in the USA in 2016 and it has hardly diminished since. As the psychological state of a crowd, it's really scary because what may well happen next is a bloodbath - whoop, whoop, whoop - and not just a few hundred role-playing plonkers entering the Capitol.
Many of the elites though are also stupid. Educated but stupid.
The Russian elites are very, very stupid, for example.
Trump has hoovered up both affluent and low-income voters, as far as I can see.
But he's also a symptom of several things, I think ; a pathologically propagandist media ecosystem, hugely centred around FoxNews but also encompassing many other outlets too now, that blames almost everything on a nebulously defined liberal elitism rather than the right, and prescribes ever more free-market fundamentalism as the cure, rather than the disease ; and then there's a subset of the both more affluent and liberal who are indeed too insulated from the poverty elsewhere, and often acquiesce with this free-market fundamentalism in favour much more heavily nowadays of culturally -based politics.
Demonisation of the "liberal" "elite", or anti-intellectualism as it manifests when viewed from a certain angle, is based on boosting the feeling of "Away with all your poncy long words", which equates to "I'm stupid and I'm proud, because what I am is REAL". Huge licence was given to that kind of attitude in the USA in 2016 and it has hardly diminished since. As the psychological state of a crowd, it's really scary because what may well happen next is a bloodbath - whoop, whoop, whoop - and not just a few hundred role-playing plonkers entering the Capitol.
Many of the elites though are also stupid. Educated but stupid.
The Russian elites are very, very stupid, for example.
Have read the linked guidance from the Sun. Hopefully, that's just the Sun's spin on it and the official stuff will be more nuanced. But if that is anywhere near the policy that will be imposed, then I'll find another job. I won't be alone. My whole career has been about keeping children safe. I will not be outing them to potentially violent parents for Tory culture war comfort. Good luck filling the teacher vacancies.
If a kid is exhibiting mental health issues it is your duty to alert the parents
Genuine question: is it? For example, if the child's mental issues was caused by the parent? To whom does the duty of care apply: the child or the parents? Is trans a mental heath issue in this context? I understood "gender dysphoria" was decategorised recently and is no longer considered a mental health condition.
Have read the linked guidance from the Sun. Hopefully, that's just the Sun's spin on it and the official stuff will be more nuanced. But if that is anywhere near the policy that will be imposed, then I'll find another job. I won't be alone. My whole career has been about keeping children safe. I will not be outing them to potentially violent parents for Tory culture war comfort. Good luck filling the teacher vacancies.
If a kid is exhibiting mental health issues it is your duty to alert the parents
Surely the difference here is official vs non official.
If your son is asking his friends to call him another name or pronoun outside of the classroom, it is none of the parents business. No more than if I saw your son kissing another boy on the playground.
But if your son is asking teachers and other pupils to refer to him as "she" in the classroom, and the teacher agrees to it, of course the parents should be made aware.
Trump has hoovered up both affluent and low-income voters, it seems to me.
But he's also a symptom of several things, I think ; a pathologically propagandist media ecosystem, hugely centred around FoxNews but also encompassing many other outlets too now, that blames almost everything on a nebulously defined "liberal elite" rather than the right, and plutocratically prescribes ever more free-market fundamentalism as the cure, rather than the disease ; and then there's a subset of the both more affluent and liberal who are indeed too insulated from the poverty elsewhere, and often acquiesce with this free-market fundamentalism in favour much more heavily nowadays of culturally -based politics, sometimes in clearly good causes and at other times not as clearly so.
Tucker Carlson on twitter now insuating Barack Obama is gay too.
Have read the linked guidance from the Sun. Hopefully, that's just the Sun's spin on it and the official stuff will be more nuanced. But if that is anywhere near the policy that will be imposed, then I'll find another job. I won't be alone. My whole career has been about keeping children safe. I will not be outing them to potentially violent parents for Tory culture war comfort. Good luck filling the teacher vacancies.
If a kid is exhibiting mental health issues it is your duty to alert the parents
Suspecting you may be trans isn't a mental health issue. I raise mental health issues every day. Fuck all is done about them. Unless you consider putting them on a 2 year plus waiting list to be doing summat.
I am not trolling and everyone who knows me here would agree.
I supported lockdowns at the time. I was wrong, I have changed my mind. Please allow me some respect for being open about it. So many aren’t.
Lockdowns is an example of where the negatives are very visible in hindsight but the positives are not. We're alive, but we take that for granted.
I doubt lockdowns were a blanket mistake but probably they could have been done in a smarter way.
Not to sound like a selfish youngster but quite honestly what have they done for my age group beyond ruin the economy and make us have huge social and educational problems?
The excess mortality rate in the worst countries such as East Europe due to Covid was about 8000 per million; in the UK 3000, by no means the best performing country. So perhaps lockdowns saved 300 000 lives in the UK. A couple of big caveats. It doesn't take into account the effectiveness of vaccine programmes. The worst performing countries also had lockdowns, so the excess death rate isn't necessarily upper bounded at 8000 per million if you had no lockdowns at all.
Have read the linked guidance from the Sun. Hopefully, that's just the Sun's spin on it and the official stuff will be more nuanced. But if that is anywhere near the policy that will be imposed, then I'll find another job. I won't be alone. My whole career has been about keeping children safe. I will not be outing them to potentially violent parents for Tory culture war comfort. Good luck filling the teacher vacancies.
If a kid is exhibiting mental health issues it is your duty to alert the parents
Surely the difference here is official vs non official.
If your son is asking his friends to call him another name or pronoun outside of the classroom, it is none of the parents business. No more than if I saw your son kissing another boy on the playground.
But if your son is asking teachers and other pupils to refer to him as "she" in the classroom, and the teacher agrees to it, of course the parents should be made aware.
No it isn't and it shouldn't. I'm not having a kid beaten to death by their parents for it. End of fucking discussion.
Have read the linked guidance from the Sun. Hopefully, that's just the Sun's spin on it and the official stuff will be more nuanced. But if that is anywhere near the policy that will be imposed, then I'll find another job. I won't be alone. My whole career has been about keeping children safe. I will not be outing them to potentially violent parents for Tory culture war comfort. Good luck filling the teacher vacancies.
If a kid is exhibiting mental health issues it is your duty to alert the parents
Surely the difference here is official vs non official.
If your son is asking his friends to call him another name or pronoun outside of the classroom, it is none of the parents business. No more than if I saw your son kissing another boy on the playground.
But if your son is asking teachers and other pupils to refer to him as "she" in the classroom, and the teacher agrees to it, of course the parents should be made aware.
I took the legislation as referring to kids who are definitely "trans", wanting to use different pronouns, rejecting their born gender: and in that case Yes I think the parents must surely be informed, unless there is a history of parental abuse
Trump has hoovered up both affluent and low-income voters, as far as I can see.
But he's also a symptom of several things, I think ; a pathologically propagandist media ecosystem, hugely centred around FoxNews but also encompassing many other outlets too now, that blames almost everything on a nebulously defined liberal elitism rather than the right, and prescribes ever more free-market fundamentalism as the cure, rather than the disease ; and then there's a subset of the both more affluent and liberal who are indeed too insulated from the poverty elsewhere, and often acquiesce with this free-market fundamentalism in favour much more heavily nowadays of culturally -based politics.
Demonisation of the "liberal" "elite", or anti-intellectualism as it manifests when viewed from a certain angle, is based on boosting the feeling of "Away with all your poncy long words", which equates to "I'm stupid and I'm proud, because what I am is REAL". Huge licence was given to that kind of attitude in the USA in 2016 and it has hardly diminished since. As the psychological state of a crowd, it's really scary because what may well happen next is a bloodbath - whoop, whoop, whoop - and not just a few hundred role-playing plonkers entering the Capitol.
Many of the elites though are also stupid. Educated but stupid.
The Russian elites are very, very stupid, for example.
Maybe but what if western elites are more stupid.
Russia is fucking it self harder and harder. They now have the third best army in Ukraine.
Curious how much the Tories have dominated politics in recent times, given how unpopular their leaders have been. Only Major (hah!) has bucked the trend.
Trump has hoovered up both affluent and low-income voters, it seems to me.
But he's also a symptom of several things, I think ; a pathologically propagandist media ecosystem, hugely centred around FoxNews but also encompassing many other outlets too now, that blames almost everything on a nebulously defined "liberal elite" rather than the right, and plutocratically prescribes ever more free-market fundamentalism as the cure, rather than the disease ; and then there's a subset of the both more affluent and liberal who are indeed too insulated from the poverty elsewhere, and often acquiesce with this free-market fundamentalism in favour much more heavily nowadays of culturally -based politics, sometimes in clearly good causes and at other times not as clearly so.
Tucker Carlson on twitter now insuating Barack Obama is gay too.
Have read the linked guidance from the Sun. Hopefully, that's just the Sun's spin on it and the official stuff will be more nuanced. But if that is anywhere near the policy that will be imposed, then I'll find another job. I won't be alone. My whole career has been about keeping children safe. I will not be outing them to potentially violent parents for Tory culture war comfort. Good luck filling the teacher vacancies.
If a kid is exhibiting mental health issues it is your duty to alert the parents
Surely the difference here is official vs non official.
If your son is asking his friends to call him another name or pronoun outside of the classroom, it is none of the parents business. No more than if I saw your son kissing another boy on the playground.
But if your son is asking teachers and other pupils to refer to him as "she" in the classroom, and the teacher agrees to it, of course the parents should be made aware.
I took the legislation as referring to kids who are definitely "trans", wanting to use different pronouns, rejecting their born gender: and in that case Yes I think the parents must surely be informed, unless there is a history of parental abuse
Trump has hoovered up both affluent and low-income voters, it seems to me.
But he's also a symptom of several things, I think ; a pathologically propagandist media ecosystem, hugely centred around FoxNews but also encompassing many other outlets too now, that blames almost everything on a nebulously defined "liberal elite" rather than the right, and plutocratically prescribes ever more free-market fundamentalism as the cure, rather than the disease ; and then there's a subset of the both more affluent and liberal who are indeed too insulated from the poverty elsewhere, and often acquiesce with this free-market fundamentalism in favour much more heavily nowadays of culturally -based politics, sometimes in clearly good causes and at other times not as clearly so.
Tucker Carlson on twitter now insuating Barack Obama is gay too.
Curious how much the Tories have dominated politics in recent times, given how unpopular their leaders have been. Only Major (hah!) has bucked the trend.
All together now: "all political careers end in failure"
Except Callaghan interestingly.
He wasn't in the job long enough to be hated. He became PM in 5 April 1976 and left it on 4 May 1979.
Although to be fair, Boris, Truss and (possibly) Sunak lasted less time and became more hated.
In fairness to politicians, it's not their job to be loved. It's their job to do the right thing as they see it, and our job to get rid of them if we think they're wrong.
Have read the linked guidance from the Sun. Hopefully, that's just the Sun's spin on it and the official stuff will be more nuanced. But if that is anywhere near the policy that will be imposed, then I'll find another job. I won't be alone. My whole career has been about keeping children safe. I will not be outing them to potentially violent parents for Tory culture war comfort. Good luck filling the teacher vacancies.
If a kid is exhibiting mental health issues it is your duty to alert the parents
Surely the difference here is official vs non official.
If your son is asking his friends to call him another name or pronoun outside of the classroom, it is none of the parents business. No more than if I saw your son kissing another boy on the playground.
But if your son is asking teachers and other pupils to refer to him as "she" in the classroom, and the teacher agrees to it, of course the parents should be made aware.
No it isn't and it shouldn't. I'm not having a kid beaten to death by their parents for it. End of fucking discussion.
How far would you go? Would you warn the other pupils to keep it a secret from the child's parents?
Trump has hoovered up both affluent and low-income voters, it seems to me.
But he's also a symptom of several things, I think ; a pathologically propagandist media ecosystem, hugely centred around FoxNews but also encompassing many other outlets too now, that blames almost everything on a nebulously defined "liberal elite" rather than the right, and plutocratically prescribes ever more free-market fundamentalism as the cure, rather than the disease ; and then there's a subset of the both more affluent and liberal who are indeed too insulated from the poverty elsewhere, and often acquiesce with this free-market fundamentalism in favour much more heavily nowadays of culturally -based politics, sometimes in clearly good causes and at other times not as clearly so.
Tucker Carlson on twitter now insuating Barack Obama is gay too.
Gosh. Has anybody told Michelle?
The conspiracy theory is that Michelle is trans. Do keep up!
would enable the public to better understand these issues. You have previously complained about the lack of air time devoted to this discussion. You have been offered $250k toward your favorite charity for a few hours of your time. How can you say no? Refusing to debate your antagonist in a public forum discredits your previously stated and published views while handing an uncontested victory in the debate to
. If you are truly interested in saving lives, you need to further the public’s understanding of the truth about vaccines. This is a debate that you cannot walk away from. It will be watched by millions. I write from the perspective of three jabs and my fully vaccinated children.
Some of you may recall @Leon's recent stay in an infamous hotel. I posted a link to a recent Atun-Shei films documentary about that specific hotel here, which everybody ignored. You may be similarly disinterested in a upcoming collab between him and Georg Rockall-Schmidt: if so, here is a link to it so you can ignore that as well.
Have read the linked guidance from the Sun. Hopefully, that's just the Sun's spin on it and the official stuff will be more nuanced. But if that is anywhere near the policy that will be imposed, then I'll find another job. I won't be alone. My whole career has been about keeping children safe. I will not be outing them to potentially violent parents for Tory culture war comfort. Good luck filling the teacher vacancies.
If a kid is exhibiting mental health issues it is your duty to alert the parents
Surely the difference here is official vs non official.
If your son is asking his friends to call him another name or pronoun outside of the classroom, it is none of the parents business. No more than if I saw your son kissing another boy on the playground.
But if your son is asking teachers and other pupils to refer to him as "she" in the classroom, and the teacher agrees to it, of course the parents should be made aware.
No it isn't and it shouldn't. I'm not having a kid beaten to death by their parents for it. End of fucking discussion.
How far would you go? Would you warn the other pupils to keep it a secret from the child's parents?
The other pupils generally don't care. But. I'm not responsible for that. Outing a kid to their parents? Nope, no, no, no, nada. It ain't happening on my watch. Absolutely not. I'd go to jail first Good luck filling SEN posts with those who would. Maybe an Army of Spectator interns could sort the sector out?
Grace Randolph/Beyond The Trailer on the numbers for the Flash opening weekend ($55million!) and the future of the DCEU. TLDR: horriblehorriblehorrible
“ @ Leon claims he is going to a variety of areas but as far as I can tell he is doing the US equivalent of travelling from Bradford to Hull”
You seem to have forgotten I spent four days on the east coast including 3 in the nation’s capital, which is literally the richest place in the USA
Moreover, I have in the last two years been to Florida California Arizona Utah Colorado Mississippi Louisiana Alabama Tennessee and New York. I suspect I have seen more of America than you guys who live there. Which makes sense. I come here to travel and experience America, you live and work here with families and when you want an American holiday you go to an obviously nice affluent bit - like upscale New England
I stand by my judgment. Parts of the east coast are doing just fine. Flourishing and opulent. As I’ve said before Alexandria VA was the nicest of all the towns I visited. It could have been a quietly ritzy town in Austria or Australia. DC was boring (museums apart) but still clearly wealthy
But go inland to the more neglected bits and it is very different. And even some of the richer cities - Denver is a prime example - have desolate downtowns. Destroyed by covid and now predated by drugs and druggies
I will admit to being surprised by Denver. But otherwise, I kind of feel you are majoring on poorer areas. And the US is so big that its poorer areas are commensurately bigger.
Of course the US is quite terrifyingly unequal, but I feel you are missing the massive tracts of suburban housing, where people live quite happily in 3000 sq ft houses and two or three cars.
Which makes sense, because why would any tourist go to Picket Fence, New York or it’s equivalents?
I'm really not majoring on poorer areas., FFS. Look at the list. I've been to some of the richest states in the Union: Colorado, New York, California, Utah, Maryland, DC. I generally go where I am sent by the Gazette, apart from this roadtrip, where I chose to see parts of America I have not seen (not because they are poor, but because I've never had the chance)
And I understand that America has lovely green suburbs with big houses. I see them
But if you want to understand why half of America is voting for Trump then perhaps my honest experiences of the poorer parts of the USA have some value
I have also had a hoot. Americans are so friendly. It's a great place to tour, even if it is in imperial decline
Nope.
Biden won massively in lower-income voters. Higher income voters went to Trump.
“ @ Leon claims he is going to a variety of areas but as far as I can tell he is doing the US equivalent of travelling from Bradford to Hull”
You seem to have forgotten I spent four days on the east coast including 3 in the nation’s capital, which is literally the richest place in the USA
Moreover, I have in the last two years been to Florida California Arizona Utah Colorado Mississippi Louisiana Alabama Tennessee and New York. I suspect I have seen more of America than you guys who live there. Which makes sense. I come here to travel and experience America, you live and work here with families and when you want an American holiday you go to an obviously nice affluent bit - like upscale New England
I stand by my judgment. Parts of the east coast are doing just fine. Flourishing and opulent. As I’ve said before Alexandria VA was the nicest of all the towns I visited. It could have been a quietly ritzy town in Austria or Australia. DC was boring (museums apart) but still clearly wealthy
But go inland to the more neglected bits and it is very different. And even some of the richer cities - Denver is a prime example - have desolate downtowns. Destroyed by covid and now predated by drugs and druggies
I will admit to being surprised by Denver. But otherwise, I kind of feel you are majoring on poorer areas. And the US is so big that its poorer areas are commensurately bigger.
Of course the US is quite terrifyingly unequal, but I feel you are missing the massive tracts of suburban housing, where people live quite happily in 3000 sq ft houses and two or three cars.
Which makes sense, because why would any tourist go to Picket Fence, New York or it’s equivalents?
I'm really not majoring on poorer areas., FFS. Look at the list. I've been to some of the richest states in the Union: Colorado, New York, California, Utah, Maryland, DC. I generally go where I am sent by the Gazette, apart from this roadtrip, where I chose to see parts of America I have not seen (not because they are poor, but because I've never had the chance)
And I understand that America has lovely green suburbs with big houses. I see them
But if you want to understand why half of America is voting for Trump then perhaps my honest experiences of the poorer parts of the USA have some value
I have also had a hoot. Americans are so friendly. It's a great place to tour, even if it is in imperial decline
Nope.
Biden won massively in lower-income voters. Higher income voters went to Trump.
The tweet doesn't match their link. They're quoting a favourability poll, not a presidential poll. Biden's favourability is -9 (and Trump's -10) so nearly all Americans will lead favourability polls against both these candidates.
If you keep clicking through the links they have a Dem primary poll, which has Biden at 62% vs RFK Jr at 15%.
I am not trolling and everyone who knows me here would agree.
I supported lockdowns at the time. I was wrong, I have changed my mind. Please allow me some respect for being open about it. So many aren’t.
You really weren't.
In March 2020 we didn't understand what was going on. People of my age and older were dropping like flies in Italy. Johnson's Government looked at herd immunity but people started dying here too. Johnson panicked, but did the right thing, albeit a week or ten days later than was wise. In September 2020 Johnson dropped the ball and people died. In December 2020 Johnson dithered again in the hope he could save Christmas, he failed. We locked down late and more people died.
In early 2021 the vaccine programme rolled out in earnest. Only then could we look at shelving lockdowns with herd immunity via vaccination taking hold. The evidence is plain to see. 220,000 people died, more would have died without lockdowns.
I accept the collateral damage from lockdowns, mental health issues, an educational vacuum and economic inertia to mention just three. But the whole notion of lockdown was a swings or roundabouts issue. A choice government made on our behalf using the best considered advice given to them
Those decrying lockdowns must have short memories. Even hardman lockdown deniers like Leon have forgotten how his friend Eadric ran away to South Wales to escape the COVID riddled Smoke. He was quoting an anticipated 800,000 UK deaths as he locked the door of his bolt hole behind him. 800,000 didn't die, but a quite enormous 220,000 did. Perhaps it's hats off to Johnson for saving the lives of over half a million registered voters.
I understand people like yourself took lockdowns badly, suffering with mental health issues. Issues which over time and with therapy could be overcome. Death by COVID on the other hand was terminal and a bit less easy to remedy after the event.
Andrew Follett @AndrewCFollett Its very likely this is a trap. The govt has a long history of using the public's interest in Aliens to smoke out moles. If I mysteriously fall out a window, it wasn't suicide.
Maybe it's time to watch The X Files again with all this talk of UFOs.
There was an episode of the X-Files where a USAF officer explains to Mulder that it's all Government disinformation designed to obscure Stealth aircraft research (see also Tacit Blue and Pave Blue). I can't identify exactly which one it was, tho' it might be Dreamland S06E04.
Have read the linked guidance from the Sun. Hopefully, that's just the Sun's spin on it and the official stuff will be more nuanced. But if that is anywhere near the policy that will be imposed, then I'll find another job. I won't be alone. My whole career has been about keeping children safe. I will not be outing them to potentially violent parents for Tory culture war comfort. Good luck filling the teacher vacancies.
If a kid is exhibiting mental health issues it is your duty to alert the parents
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But otherwise, I kind of feel you are majoring on poorer areas. And the US is so big that its poorer areas are commensurately bigger.
Of course the US is quite terrifyingly unequal, but I feel you are missing the massive tracts of suburban housing, where people live quite happily in 3000 sq ft houses and two or three cars.
Which makes sense, because why would any tourist go to Picket Fence, New York or it’s equivalents?
A plane crashes on the Ukraine/Republic of China border. In which country do you bury the survivors?
Which is more legendary? Nick Palmer’s social life or @TSE’s modesty?
It's rare these days to spot such pure example of the ancestral breed of troll.
Steve
Of course this is just deflecting from the fact that there’s a huge shortfall in housing , instead of trying to fix the problem the Tories gave up long ago and have gone to their default peddle hate and division .
We can see the outlines of the next GE campaign ,it’s going to be a disgusting hate filled campaign by the Tories pitting different groups against each other .
This shower really need to be shown the door before they rip the soul out of the UK .
In fact if it wasn't for fatigue we'd be making a much bigger fuss. A lot of people will be asking themselves if we really want this 'born to rule' mob ruling us ever again.
Someone mentioned Sunak's achievement in marrying a billionaires daughter. There's something very rotten afoot which it's taking people a while to compute. Let's hope a simple change of government will be enough
And I understand that America has lovely green suburbs with big houses. I see them
But if you want to understand why half of America is voting for Trump then perhaps my honest experiences of the poorer parts of the USA have some value
I have also had a hoot. Americans are so friendly. It's a great place to tour, even if it is in imperial decline
So, to save PB we will be forced to cremate you. Sorry, but thems the breaks for shape shifting aliens.
Thoughts and prayers with people stuck in nations like that, especially if they have to try and justify the actions of said outrageous (so called) strongmen. After all, we're ultimately lucky in the UK. Boris has gone now, even if it's regrettable he was ever there at all.
Night all.
https://twitter.com/TomHCalver/status/1670372331397562372
Anyway there's not a housing shortage. There are ample houses in Britain for everyone to live in comfortably. The more high-end a house is, the more likely it is to be unoccupied at a given time. It would be in the interests of most people if there were a government that cracked down on both moneylenders and landlords. It's the banks that are the reason why house prices are so extraordinarily high, and it's the free rein given by the government to landlords that's the reason why rents are so high. Boot them and boot them hard. Nationalise. Raise inheritance tax on the top 10% of estates to the skies. Abolish beneficial ownership overnight. Of course Labour is not about to say anything like this. Even in their last manifesto which was better in many ways than the party's preceding manifestos, there was sh*te such as create a million "climate change" jobs and about a dozen references to transsexuals. As if people who can't afford to pay their rent and don't know whether they and their children are going to be sleeping on friends' sofas within a year want to hear about the f*cking climate changing and the needs of men who wear bras and panties and want their willies cut off and everyone to pretend they're "women".
PS You don't sound like a monarchist. Why do you call the country by the name of the monarchist regime that currently prevails here?
It's a resignation issue for me.
Plus the racial division. Trump won the white vote by 58-41. Quite astonishing
40% of union households voting Trump - another interesting statistic.
I supported lockdowns at the time. I was wrong, I have changed my mind. Please allow me some respect for being open about it. So many aren’t.
Simple as
But he's also a symptom of several things, I think ; a pathologically propagandist media ecosystem, hugely centred around FoxNews but also encompassing many other outlets too now, that blames almost everything on a nebulously defined "liberal elite" rather than the right, and plutocratically prescribes ever more free-market fundamentalism as the cure, rather than the disease ; and then there's a subset of the both more affluent and liberal who are indeed too insulated from the poverty elsewhere, and often acquiesce with this free-market fundamentalism in favour much more heavily nowadays of culturally -based politics, sometimes in clearly good causes and at other times not as clearly so.
We simply do not know what we would be getting under a Labour government.
When I said I opposed lockdowns I meant it. In hindsight they were wrong.
U happy?
I doubt lockdowns were a blanket mistake but probably they could have been done in a smarter way.
I get held up because I changed my mind on Corbyn. And I get held up for changing my mind on this.
I am learning, I am allowed to develop and change my mind. But some are so utterly boring they can't or won't accept it. Enough.
Hopefully, that's just the Sun's spin on it and the official stuff will be more nuanced.
But if that is anywhere near the policy that will be imposed, then I'll find another job. I won't be alone. My whole career has been about keeping children safe. I will not be outing them to potentially violent
parents for Tory culture war comfort.
Good luck filling the teacher vacancies.
He's a lawyer, which gives us a clue. He knowingly lies for a living. He's also quite ruthless
So I reckon we will get pragmatic managerialism, with a few left wing baubles to appease the troops (eg attacking private schools), and a dash of Wokery (but he will have to be really careful, this shit will annoy people)
More interesting is what he will do with intractable problems like our EU relations, and the boat people
Who decides when to add letters to LGBTIDGAFQ+? Is there a committee or something? I don’t get it. Asking for a friend.
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https://twitter.com/ElonMuskAOC/status/1670539501582827520?s=20
I'm sure you'll be wonderful in your new Special Needs role. "Mental and secret" is a bit of a red flag.
You sound ideal.
If your son is asking his friends to call him another name or pronoun outside of the classroom, it is none of the parents business. No more than if I saw your son kissing another boy on the playground.
But if your son is asking teachers and other pupils to refer to him as "she" in the classroom, and the teacher agrees to it, of course the parents should be made aware.
I raise mental health issues every day.
Fuck all is done about them.
Unless you consider putting them on a 2 year plus waiting list to be doing summat.
I'm not having a kid beaten to death by their parents for it.
End of fucking discussion.
BREAKING: Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. is now leading Joe Biden in 2024 presidential election polls.
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https://twitter.com/LeadingReport/status/1670511484927918080?s=20
https://i.imgur.com/HIcHo30.jpg
Although to be fair, Boris, Truss and (possibly) Sunak lasted less time and became more hated.
In fairness to politicians, it's not their job to be loved. It's their job to do the right thing as they see it, and our job to get rid of them if we think they're wrong.
am not part of the gang of three, but I strongly believe that an open long-form debate on vaccines with you and
@RobertKennedyJr
moderated by
@joerogan
would enable the public to better understand these issues. You have previously complained about the lack of air time devoted to this discussion. You have been offered $250k toward your favorite charity for a few hours of your time. How can you say no? Refusing to debate your antagonist in a public forum discredits your previously stated and published views while handing an uncontested victory in the debate to
@RobertKennedyJr
. If you are truly interested in saving lives, you need to further the public’s understanding of the truth about vaccines. This is a debate that you cannot walk away from. It will be watched by millions. I write from the perspective of three jabs and my fully vaccinated children.
https://twitter.com/BillAckman/status/1670236811245899776?s=20
But. I'm not responsible for that.
Outing a kid to their parents?
Nope, no, no, no, nada.
It ain't happening on my watch.
Absolutely not. I'd go to jail first
Good luck filling SEN posts with those who would. Maybe an Army of Spectator interns could sort the sector out?
Though Trump v Kennedy Jnr for the White House would be interesting
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Bill Ackman is interesting. A very level headed hedge fund guy hardly a conspiracy theorist.
https://twitter.com/TheChiefNerd/status/1670416300911349769?s=20
[ducks]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election#Voter_demographics
Trump also won 67% of white voters without college degrees, Biden won 51% of white voters with college degrees
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election#Voter_demographics
Trump 74 million votes
If you keep clicking through the links they have a Dem primary poll, which has Biden at 62% vs RFK Jr at 15%.
In March 2020 we didn't understand what was going on. People of my age and older were dropping like flies in Italy. Johnson's Government looked at herd immunity but people started dying here too. Johnson panicked, but did the right thing, albeit a week or ten days later than was wise. In September 2020 Johnson dropped the ball and people died. In December 2020 Johnson dithered again in the hope he could save Christmas, he failed. We locked down late and more people died.
In early 2021 the vaccine programme rolled out in earnest. Only then could we look at shelving lockdowns with herd immunity via vaccination taking hold. The evidence is plain to see. 220,000 people died, more would have died without lockdowns.
I accept the collateral damage from lockdowns, mental health issues, an educational vacuum and economic inertia to mention just three. But the whole notion of lockdown was a swings or roundabouts issue. A choice government made on our behalf using the best considered advice given to them
Those decrying lockdowns must have short memories. Even hardman lockdown deniers like Leon have forgotten how his friend Eadric ran away to South Wales to escape the COVID riddled Smoke. He was quoting an anticipated 800,000 UK deaths as he locked the door of his bolt hole behind him. 800,000 didn't die, but a quite enormous 220,000 did. Perhaps it's hats off to Johnson for saving the lives of over half a million registered voters.
I understand people like yourself took lockdowns badly, suffering with mental health issues. Issues which over time and with therapy could be overcome. Death by COVID on the other hand was terminal and a bit less easy to remedy after the event.
https://twitter.com/AndrewCFollett/status/1669347366963666948
Andrew Follett
@AndrewCFollett
Its very likely this is a trap. The govt has a long history of using the public's interest in Aliens to smoke out moles. If I mysteriously fall out a window, it wasn't suicide.
#UFO ‘Whistleblower’ Is a Trap for the GOP
https://nationalreview.com/2023/06/ufo-whistleblower-is-a-trap-for-the-gop/
HA! HA! HA!
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/18/mark-esper-secrets-trump-classified-00102541