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What Brits are really looking forward to this weekend – politicalbetting.com
What Brits are really looking forward to this weekend – politicalbetting.com
Which are you most looking forward to around this weekend?The bank holiday day off: 37%The coronation and celebrations surrounding it: 25%Neither: 34%https://t.co/ybC0oCcl7z pic.twitter.com/ScdsnV50H6
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Those getting a paid day off work
Those not getting a paid day off work
Those who don't work
Among those getting a paid day off it will be much higher than 37%.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65518360
Presumably we'll never know, however amusing a "jolly bad show... Constable Rowley" speech would be.
About 14 million saw King being Crowned, live on BBC TV. This is about half of the TV audience for the Queen's funeral last Autumn (29 million across channels and outlets). The Lionesses had an 11 million average, 17 million peak. and England v Italy 2020 had a 31m peak
https://twitter.com/sundersays/status/1655175061924397057
Latest German opinion poll.
Kantar:
CDU/CSU 31%
SPD 17%
Green 16%
AfD 16%
FDP 8%
Left 4%
Others 8%
https://www.wahlrecht.de/umfragen/
The Conservative Party generally, and the Home Secretary in particular, along with the attraction that police work has to people who derive enjoyment from abusing power and abusing other people, are responsible for the wave of forcible detentions. Not the King, regardless of whether you think he merits his status or not.
Could the coronation of King Charles III be the UK’s last coronation?
QTWTAIN.
Particularly as unlike a world cup match the coronation was not a very absorbing watch, so 1/4 of the nation doing it would be a very high number.
Longer term, there's a challenge for the monarchy if the monarch is always old-to-dying. That will be tricky to solve.
“King Charles’s coronation watched by peak TV audience of 20m
Event was most watched broadcast of year”
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/may/07/king-charles-coronation-watched-by-peak-tv-audience-of-20-million?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
And we’ve yet to get the catch up and internet figures. I suspect the Palace will be just fine with this
Indeed the Guardian is so cheesed off that it was watched by a lot of people, they are blaming the weather:
“The viewing figures for the coronation at Westminster Abbey may have been boosted by the poor weather in parts of the UK, which forced people to stay inside”
34% not looking forward to anything this weekend, though. Miserable buggers.
Personally, I rather enjoyed seeing the bunting out, and I enjoyed the little street party in the cul de sac behind our house. Small scale and drunken, it was. And I will also enjoy an extra day off work tomorrow. My glass is definitely half full.
The wedding of Wills and Kate was one of the most watched royal events ever
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65516633
But could this dude look more like an orc from a Lord of the Rings film if he tried? Apologies for photo of Prigozin to spoil your Sunday, I couldn't get spoiler tags to work.
South Park - Royal Wedding
I find the ‘gate keeping’ of patriotism by some both a visceral turn off and an expression of insecurity about a world that is (rightly) changing around us.
By contrast, I think our ability to disagree freely and in public (with or without placards) is one of the many, many things that makes me proud of our country.
I find it truly remarkable that some aren’t able to cope with the fact that other people can feel both pride and shame in the face of such a complex and multi-faceted history and culture.
Expect to see this revelation in the upcoming Spare 2: The Sparening, by Harry Mountbatten-Windsor, former Prince.
Indeed, as I responded to accusations of not being proud of Britain a few days back:
https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/comment/4386927#Comment_4386927
One thing in particular that makes me proud is that monarchist and jingoistic self-importance is met by British mickey-taking and pricking that pomposity, rather than violent mobs. The worst that happened yesterday was a few protesters having their placards impounded, and even that fairly meekly done. Truly the mark of a civilised country.
You don't give the King any odds at all of surviving 19 years and a month?
Given the very best healthcare, not smoking, and his family history of longevity, I would say there's a pretty good chance the next King will be crowned in his sixties.
I see it shows up in a lot of 'Are Monarchies days' numbered?' articles, usually coming with a clear yearning that the answer is 'Yes, hopefully'.
Could be so, but I doubt it given the stability of Scandanavian monarchies for example. The UK is more political unstable, with Sindy and all that, and so the possibility of it falling by the wayside are higher than should probably be the case given lack of consensus on what to replace it with.
But in fact we can see from various Republican dictatorships that they can be in effect monarchies, with sons inheriting presidencies from father's, so I don't think we'll ever truly be rid of monarchy, even if it is called something else. Christ, in North Korean they talk about the actual Kim bloodline being vital and still pretend not to be a monachy!
If William has anything between his ears he ought now to be thinking what he wants to be associated with when his turn to get the London procession in the rain comes around.
“Former Russian president Dmitry Medvedev has threatened anyone convicted of carrying out Saturday’s attack on nationalist writer Zakhar Prilepin with death in prison.
Writing on Telegram, Medvedev, who is now deputy chairman of Russia’s security council, said that any suspects, “like other criminals, will be tried for the attack and sentenced to long prison terms”.
He continued: “But it is important that they and others like them realise a simple thing: even for those sentenced to life imprisonment (under the conditions of a moratorium on the death penalty), incidents and accidents sometimes happen.
“And then a lengthy sentence is quickly interrupted for natural reasons due to the death of the prisoner. And it also has great educational value for the new bastards who are hired to carry out assassinations.”
Prilepin, a prominent supporter of the war in Ukraine, was in the Nizhny Novgorod region of Russia on Saturday when his car exploded, injuring him and killing his driver.”
From the Guardian.
It really is quite hard to think what his interests are.
Apparently Lukashenko in Belarus is following my proposal, as his favouite son has long been his youngest son, who is 29 years younger than the eldest.
I stick to my earlier stated opinion on this - remove the monarchy at your peril. The French made it their national identity and every 50 years since that moment they have binned their entire constitution and started an entirely new one. They have also ended up with a far more monarchical system of government than any European monarchy outside of the Holy See.
It seems peculiar to me that, given the tremendous fuss we have just had over changing a fifty-year-old part of our constitution (a tale that still has not fully played out), we consider changing a millenium-old part of it and not imagine that there might be unintended consequences.
It really isn't very British at all to enable the police to arrest people because they may be about to engage in a 'disruptive' protest. The legislation came into force just last Tuesday. People may be pretty relaxed about it being used in the exceptional circumstances of yesterday. But I don't think we should be at all relaxed about giving the police carte blanche in the future to make a subjective judgement, before any offence is committed, about whether one is likely to be committed.
Most unBritish. Thanks, Suella and the Tories. I hope Labour promises to repeal this bit of the legislation.
It's as tight as a gnats arse at the bottom of the PL.
Now you'll tell me its Grimsby.
I wonder if this just measures British cynicism and non-deferential thinking; it would be somewhat uncool to look forward to the coronation this weekend, unless you were a strong monarchist, because it suggests it's the most important thing in your life and our society is quite atomised these days. And we are all centered on our own choices and priorities.
But, that doesn't mean you won't participate and enjoy it when it arrives. My whole village were out today and I met neighbours I never would have were it not for the monarchy.
Like much else in life: it's complicated.
Edit - Manchester
People are different.
The Met were probably over the top, the govt (and Labour) too willing to take extra powers but this is not Putin's Russia.
JHB silly as usual, even when on the "correct" side of the argument.
edit; I'm thinking what you need tall towers for: chimneys (though the draught would be cr@p with that design; you need wind to help the smoke out); water tower; hydraulic tower; observation.
My *guess* would be a hydraulic tower.
The state needs to do the hard and expensive thing. Solve actual crimes.
I think about this landmark often. It's fairly prominent on the skyline and not unpleasant looking. Most prisons are hidden away, but not this one.
The surrounding area is a bit grim, but in ten years it won't be. It's close to Central Manchester and ripe for redevelopment. I imagine the prison will move, but I hope the tower stays. Maybe it could be a minor tourist attraction to see the view from the top.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/survey-results/daily/2023/05/05/ba1bd/1
I’m actually with @Andy_JS on this one.
Unless I’ve got a free bet to use up, which I throw on a club game, i’m just not emotionally invested. Never have been.
International football, on the other hand…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqQ6RWzugbc
When is the thread on Lib Dem target seats, Scottish sun-samples, or how the DUP might fare in another Northern Irish poll?
Not tall enough.
That's quite cool.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/may/06/it-was-ludicrous-but-also-magnificent-the-coronation-stirred-every-emotion?CMP=share_btn_tw
You’re just determined to pick a fight where one doesn’t exist. A bit like @Anabobazina ‘s recent posts.
I mention this because some posters were adamant that they were never going to leave.
I think the highest ever was 31 million for Diana's funeral, and that was a hugely shocking event in a pre-digital/smart TV age with virtually wall-wall coverage, and whilst it's about 8-9 million less than the Queen's funeral of 28 million it's still pretty decent for a new monarch who's a bit bittersweet, has lots of baggage, and for a deeply religious service, and a long one.
I think Buckingham Palace will be satisfied with these figures.
The Guardian is deeply schizo on the Coronation
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/may/06/strong-bladders-required-for-interminable-faffing-of-king-charles-coronation?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
But so, it seems, is France:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/may/07/french-leftwing-attacks-nauseating-coronation-but-right-gives-praise?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Actually there’s quite a statistic in that 2nd article. 9 million French people watched it LIVE
Which is why under current circumstances it won't be. So it won't be abolished until unforeseeable times in the future.