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The Tory voter suppression plan appears to be working – politicalbetting.com
The Tory voter suppression plan appears to be working – politicalbetting.com
The final figures are in: just 63,279 people met last night's 5pm deadline to apply for new Voter ID.That's a tiny 3% of the 2 MILLION people who lack the right ID to vote under the Govt's new rules.https://t.co/ZiuOOPVW9c
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Has there been any proper demographic analysis to quantify the likely effect on support by party?
But, as these numbers clearly show, it has a disproportionate impact relative to any perceived benefit.
The best thing all round would be for the Tories to have a disaster in the locals, and for them to put about the idea that this was because they suffered disproportionately from "issues related to voter id" (which sounds like an *excellent* excuse), and for it to get thrown out before the general.
Indeed, none of the twelve registered voters at a one bedroom flat who have applied for postal votes need photo I.D. either.
Which problem exists, and which problem is being addressed here?
A very bold prediction if the latter!
Nice work if Vladimir Putin is your role model.
As for bus passes, would OAPs in rural areas have them where there are no buses? Still think it more likely to harm older voters than young - youngsters especially the pub / club going sort will have ID including ones on the acceptable voting list. NUS cards which are part of the PASS scheme count for example. Guess we will see next week. (My postal vote has been returned).
Check out the Tory leaflets in Norwich South telling voters they don't need ID to vote- now pulled!
In the I newspaper
Can't embed at the moment, also paywalled.
So now we have SKS Fans on board perhaps I can get an answer on my FPT question
Ten Weeks ago SKS Party had a 28 point lead according to YG
Today they have it at 15
SKS Fans please explain
https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/r2r7ejhs5x/TheTimes_VI_230215_W_.pdf
- People without ID were able to vote
- People without ID are now not able to vote
That looks like disenfranchisement. Of course, people could take action to avoid being disenfranchised, but I'm not sure that enough was done to make the requirement obvious. They have at least introduced it for locals rather than a GE.
Personally as said before I don't think the photo ID requirement is needed. Though most will still be able to use passport or driving licence even if they weren't able to get new voter ID
Many if not most elderly voters use postal votes to be fair
(And, in addition, Blair had the advantage of a Labour brand largely detoxified by Kinnock and Smith - Starmer started from the Corbyn era, much more of a task. Although Blair did make major changes, clause 4 etc)
By not Blairite enough I presume you mean offering a Broad Church and offering some radical Policies attractive to Socialists
A Broad Church
Labour won as a Broad Church
Not even the biggest SKS fan could describe the SKS Party as that
It is.... the Thread header is not Gospel.
As an aside Parties do promote policies aimed at their electoral advantage. The Lib Dems want PR, Labour votes for 16 and 17 year olds.
However, I accept that Starmer won the leadership, and I wish him and his team well in securing a GE victory.
Getting rid of the Tories is my priority- what's yours?
You are boring.
(most definitely not an allegation of paternity, just an observation on my experiences)
I mean, there must be one, surely? Somewhere?
ETA: Afterall, we even had Milifandom!
But old biddies can if they remember their bus pass.
70,000 have discovered the fact in time to get suitable ID
there are 1,930,000 people who may turn up at the polling station to discover they've been disenfranchised.
*more chance of LDs in governments, which leads to good governance
My Priority is holding the bloke who lied his way to the Leadership to Account
Holding to account the bloke who asked a lawyer to look into Racism in the Party and then ignored his findings.
Aforesaid SKS appointed Lawyer says Labour has a hierarchy of racism “Anti-black racism and Islamophobia is not taken as seriously as antisemitism within the Labour party"
My Priority is to ensure the factional tool in charge of Labour does not win a GE
My Priority is to bore PB Centrists till GE 2024 or till SKS goes whichever is the sooner
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-65397235?at_medium=social&at_campaign=Social_Flow&at_campaign_type=owned&at_bbc_team=editorial&at_link_type=web_link&at_link_id=8BD34E66-E409-11ED-B7C3-5A6A79448730&at_link_origin=BBCScotlandNews&at_ptr_name=twitter&at_format=link
When he became leader Labour were about 20 points behind in the polls. People can demand that SKS fans explain when Labour start doing worse than that.
(although I first registered as out of the country on polling day so had good reason, then figured I might as well tick the 'permanent' box - my polling station is all of five minutes' walk away)
But, for every success there is something like this. Much of the political and moral bankruptcy hangover from previous leaders remains and it is hitting on almost a daily basis. And, it appears, Sunak is quite content with it. So for every step forward (not with me, I'm still gone), but with blue wallers and Cameroon's, there is a step back. I'm not sure they will just drift back when GE time comes when their politics is being punched in the stomach on a routine basis. And these are not low info voters who are just going to miss it.
The Israeli Flag Is in Our Hands
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/2023-04-25/ty-article-opinion/the-israeli-flag-is-in-our-hands/00000187-b4e0-d3b7-abcf-b5e454d10000
...This enormous protest movement managed to achieve something incredible. Not only has it stopped the legal overhaul for now, but it has also reappropriated the Israeli flag. This year, the flag represents a liberated Israel that seeks peace and normalcy. Masses of people who for years had reservations about it and felt growing alienation from it will now fly it with great pride.
This reappropriation of the Israeli flag is one of the protests’ greatest achievements, and it symbolizes much more than the flag itself. Effectively, this reappropriation of the flag foreshadows the achievement of the protests’ supreme goal – not allowing Jewish nationalists to shape the country and Israel’s fate in their own image. It symbolizes an end to our passivity, the realization that there are millions of other Israelis who feel powerless when they see everything they believed in going to hell, and the fact that we are uniting and fighting together over the character of our country.
After the holiday, the Knesset’s spring recess will end and the sword of the overhaul legislation will once again hover over us. The protests will resume as well, and they will keep expanding and intensifying until the government caves in and shelves its malicious plans. On this 75th Independence Day, the Israeli flag is in our hands.
You are letting the good be the enemy of the perfect, the perfect being the restoration of a "hard left" RCP-type loon who would nationalise Tescos. And you are perfectly entitled to that view.
Nigel Farage campaigned for Brexit for years and years before it became a thing and now look at us so good luck with it all.
We need out there people and you appear to be one such.
https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/23477035.outrage-harraby-community-centre-bans-jeremy-corbyn-film/
When I did my GCSE English literature in 1998 one of the texts was a short story translated from Russian. It was about a boy who is always late for school to the consternation of his teacher who later discovers it is because he spends ages walking through a forest on his way to school.
The story is a lesson on the wonders of nature and was written in the 'optimistic' years after Stalin's death. I do not remember the name but would be grateful to anyone who can tell me!
We also don't know 'a lot of it goes undetected'. We might detect 100%, for all we know.
We do know that there aren't many people turning up at polling stations to vote only to discover that they've already been counted as having voted. If it was really widespread, then that would happen. So it's either quite small or very well targeted towards those who will not vote. Doing that would be tricky - you might know your neighbour is housebound, but you don't know she hasn't got a postal or proxy vote.
It's hard to see how you'd do it on a useful scale without detection - you'd need a team to cast multiple votes (as the same person voting many times at one polling station would be risky) and you'd need excellent targeting of registered voters who would not vote. There aren't that many seats where it would even look feasible, I think. It looks far easier to abuse postal voting, to me.
All the above for GEs, national votes. Somewhat easier to game local votes given lower turnouts and margins, I guess (which could also be important).
He seemed to know everyone in the city.
That's pretty shocking. Govt makes good on manifesto pledge is not something you see every day.
If only the police's reputation wasn't in the gutter this might have positive polling implications for the Cons. It still might.
But we've discussed this at length, and if significant personation* were happening, the great majority of it would likely be postal, and not be via in person voting.
(* impersonation can be for entirely legal as well as illegal purposes.)
And there could be a big additional bonus for the tories if longer queues at polling stations discourage busy people from voting.
Keep it up.
Or maybe non-PB labourites not good at backing a winner
ETA: As a wet lettuce centrist LD-sympathiser, I think I'd have voted for Starmer, given the vote. Not quite convinced by Nandy. But I haven't seen a great deal of her.
I foresee a much bigger polling day problem, that many who DO have valid ID leave it at home, and are turned away. Some of those won't bother to return later in the day.
If Voter ID is to be introduced it makes sense to do this in a non GE year.
This is Trumpian politics.
If i knew what I know now i would have voted for RLB but at the time I believed the Party need to move a bit to the right.
On that basis i should be an SKS fan but moving a bit and becoming a Socialist hating non Democratic hierarchy of racism Party is not a bit!
I thought you had morphed into DecrepitJohnL.
I will go with 100,000 turn up without it, of which 20,000 come back later. Will these numbers be recorded?
For the over 60s pass you have to provide a passport or driving licence, or if you don't have those you have to go to a Post Office with other ID to get a verification letter with other proofs of ID and address.
The over 18s pass doesn't need the initial scrutiny, simply sending a photo and filling in a form on a website is enough.
That's why the over 60s pass is valid and the over 18s pass is not. If the over 18s pass was properly scrutinised it would almost certainly also be acceptable.
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I had a long and meaningful phone call with 🇨🇳 President Xi Jinping. I believe that this call, as well as the appointment of Ukraine's ambassador to China, will give a powerful impetus to the development of our bilateral relations.
https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1651184756623802368
First conversation since the invasion.
The very fact that you are relaxed about the whole affair suggests it is to your party political advantage.
No ID in hand, they've not even noticed the adverts. Afterall, this is the usual May late afternoon stroll, and they didn't need to take their purse or bag.
Get to the station and get into a massive fight with the returning officer. Never needed this before, it's undemocratic etc etc etc.
I wonder if a few might just be allowed to vote anyway, to avoid the fight? Many will not.
Return home and straight on Facebook to moan long and loud in the 'Bickerstaff on Sea Community Group'. Either way.... they didn't get to vote Conservative after all and can't now be bothered going back to the polling station afterall.
I wonder how likely.......
20,000 more officers working on trivial motoring offences and policing ‘hate crime’ on Twitter - while house burglaries, car thefts and street robberies lead to little interest - isn’t going to go down well with the general public.
https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1651166454375481348?s=20