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Compulsory voting ID – A CON gift to LAB & the LDs? – politicalbetting.com
Compulsory voting ID – A CON gift to LAB & the LDs? – politicalbetting.com
The local elections on May 4th will be the first to be held where every voter will be asked to provide some form of photo ID when they seek to cast their vote at the polling station. Postal voting is not affected.
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Most likely it will lead to a fall in turnout affecting all parties, if you turn up at the polling station for a local election and are turned away because you don't have photo ID then you most likely won't bother to go back and get it even if you do. When only around a third of voters vote in most local elections anyway that is hardly going to improve local democracy!
Personally I would have just had Photo ID for councils where electoral fraud has been an issue like Tower Hamlets, not imposed it nationwide
It is, in any case, utter madness.
Bin it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-32428648
“ It takes some cheek to pose as a tax-cutter when you’re raising CT from 19 per cent to 25 per cent. The Chancellor was trying to claim that his new allowances would compensate for the higher headline rate. But they won’t. At the moment, if you invest £100 you can claim £130 in deductions before you pay tax on profits at 19 per cent.
“From next month (and only for three years), if you invest £100 you’ll be able to deduct £100 before paying profits’ tax of 25 per cent. If you think that’s a tax cut, I have a bridge to sell you.”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-11865147/ANDREW-NEIL-safety-Budget-come-seen-missed-opportunity-Tories.html
It will be somewhere between a damp squib and a fiasco.
Anyone sent home to get photo ID should return and vote against the Tory on the ballot paper. Its the only way to make an impact.
We are reminding identified Con voters of the need for ID at the polling station. Or offering them a postal vote form.
So I'm not sure it is a major issue.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tax/news/freelancers-ignored-budget-designed-boost-workforce/
“Andy Chamberlain, of the Association of Independent Professionals and the Self-Employed, said the biggest obstacles facing the self-employed had been ignored.
“The trade body estimates more than 700,000 people have been forced out of self-employment since 2020, following the pandemic a cost of living crisis and changes to complex freelancer tax rules which have taken the shine off "being your own boss" for many.”
"reminding identified Con voters" - but not Labour, LD, Reform ...
You have disclaimed any right to make any moral judgement on PB ever again.
Ah yes, a key Tory demographic extensively uses postal voting.
The problem in Tower Hamlets is above all voter intimidation which the police treat as “a cultural matter.”
Teachers look like they will struggle to get a deal now, the money is all spent.
There seems to be this delusion amongst today's Tories where they repeat a lie and insist it is true. But it is still a lie, and this is not a tax cutting growth budget no matter how many times they insist that it is.
With the fiscal consequences we're now seeing.
A. Tory Gmt changes the rules.
B. Tories on the ground tell only Tory voters.
See?
Just been announced in the HOC
It is profoundly cynical, attacking a "problem" that nobody can quantify at any scale, whilst completely ignoring the actual fraud which has been uncovered from postal voting.
THAT is why it is political.
Many, many other nations require proof of ID when voting. I would rather accept either polling card or proof if the polling card isn't presented but for something as important as voting in a democracy, it shouldn't be just taken on trust that you are Joe Bloggs of 123 Fake St.
I must admit that I'm surprised that 50% of 69-year-olds don't renew their licences. Everyone in that age bracket who I know has renewed, with a slight sense of relief that they don't have to retake their tests and prove familiarity with all the Highway Code updates.
From where did the proposal originate?
I wonder if these two crimes are linked? A contractor in a lobby selling a solution where there isn’t a problem?
I genuinely feel for teenagers exposed to this stuff, and it’s only going to get worse with advances in AI and image manipulation.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pZ47QJG-_NU
We therefore recommended that there should be a requirement for electors
across Great Britain to present an acceptable form of identification prior to being
issued with a ballot paper and voting at the polling station.
https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/sites/default/files/pdf_file/Proof-of-identity-scheme-updated-March-2016.pdf
I’ve recently needed reading glasses (the usual +1.5), aged 45, but it shows the speed at which eyesight can deteriorate.
Another opportunity for me to roll out my I went to vote one time and was told I'd already voted story.
Assuming it was cock up and not conspiracy then having a photo ID wouldn't necessarily prevent a lapse of concentration and the same problem occurring. If it was conspiracy and not cock up it might well prevent fraud.
Meanwhile, my aunt (87) and my mother (93 today), both long non-drivers with their bank cards the only ID they possess - I doubt either has a valid passport - and both of whom believe it is important to turn up in person to vote so don't have postal votes, are therefore effectively disenfranchised.
https://www.google.com/maps/@50.3703198,-4.1407499,3a,75y,70.6h,86.45t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSHhcG8Obtj74AlddZ-J1-A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
I thought you were one of the good guys?
I might suggest that's your issue, not mine.
1 Returning Officers / Police to tackle high risk of fraud in high risk areas
2 Ban party activists from handling postal / proxy vote forms
3 Mandatory ID at polling stations once a suitable proof of identity scheme was in place
The party political element is that the Tories have cherry-picked the bits that favour them and discarded the rest. Party hacks still hand out postal & proxy forms which anyone can have for any reason. Which creates a client vote for parties and allows fraud to continue.
No action has been taken in the areas with the genuine issues - as has been noted above the police are so stretched that they do not want to know. Back on Teesside we had a discussion with plod about what appeared to be a pretty clear cut fraud and they simply didn't want to know.
And the bit that has created the headlines is smashing on with voter ID without having sorted out the ID scheme. We have absurdities such as one bus pass being accepted for old people and the one for young people being refused. And an LA-run form which is in itself easy to fake and almost nobody knows about. 2m adults do not have valid ID and are barred from turning up to vote in May.
I don't have any specific objection to voter ID, then again I support a national ID card scheme. But not as has been implemented where pensioners who likely vote Tory are given free reign and the poor and young are disenfranchised.
Wait for Labours mandatory voting ID app.
This is really messed up and will mess with young (and older) women's heads. And who knows, men's too. They will also be led to think that all men have these criteria on attractiveness - the most insecure women I know aspire to the after-filter kind of look; the happier ones are more like the before look (a generalisation, for sure, not universal - but the unhappiest are those who aspire unsuccessfully to the after look). I've always found the happier/more self confident ones more attractive (also, for me, the case for 2 out of 3 here, with not much preference either way for the other).
The show itself is also a bit disturbing, but not as much as the tiktok filter.
Number of instances? Zero.
You identify your vote, then make sure it votes for your candidate. I can't believe the amount of pearl-clutching from stating the bleeding obvious....
I have a gmail account which I have linked to my main Yahoo mail which I keep mainly for ebay and yesterday I received a Critical Security Alert from Google saying someone knows my gmail password, however it was for my email with an added . in it (therefore not my actual address). My gmail account now seems to be locked and it's asking to go through the process of signing in and setting up a new password for the incorrect gmail account. Is this fishy (or phishy)?
Many places (Boots etc) do if for free.
Apart from detecting eyesight deterioration, there is a whole raft of illnesses they can detect by looking in the eye.
(The two hosts are very ungallant by the way – commenting on the ladies' attractiveness)
Airfreight LAX > Leipzig > East Midlands > Aberdeen, then straight onto a van and delivered to me here. How much has that cost them?
General rule of thumb is to never click on any links in such an email.
Go to gmail directly (or if its a banking email the banking page directly) on a website you know is legit, on a device you know is clean, and try to log in via that.
If its genuinely locked, then might be worth getting in touch with their support, not sure how that works with them.
I was told by a local councillor (Lib Dem) that they do it that way here, because if they announce the trees to be chopped, then a save-our-special-tree thing starts for all of them. Up to court cases. Some people seem to think that because they love it, a tree won’t fall on them…
The problem is the risk assessment, of course. A tree may survive a certain amount of wind, and it’s a bit of guess from the assessor as to whether the tree is a risk. Unless it is visibility rotten in a big way…
Whereas others more confident in themselves put a much lighter touch on.
As you say the more self-confident ones are more attractive typically there too.
I'm sure self-confidence works in reverse for males appearances too though.
Consider it words to the wise.
Anyone trying to spin the new rules as anything but voter disenfranchisement is avoiding the facts .
The fact that postal voting is now more open to fraud than at the voting centre highlights the Tories disgraceful attempts at ensuring their voter base can easily vote without giving a fig about fraud .
The Tories in here need to just accept the reality and stop trying to hide behind the electoral commission as a means to legitimize the blatant disenfranchisement.
Casting stones and all that.
I’m quite sure that goes for lots of adults as well.
And it’s quite definitely a male problem as well. Certainly according to the expert in the field who did a Zoom call talk, organised by my daughters school, recently.
Well we have HY*FD.
Who else?
@MarqueeMark perhaps. @felix?
Not many and apols you two if you are not.
You might also like to apply 'toy soldiering' to everything else we talk about on here, and ask what could be discussed if everyone took a similar attitude. The answer is, not much.