He's talking sense again Triumph for Rishi Sunak. Narrative changer. Will be seen as a potential political game changer. For about a week. Then normal service will be resumed. But credit where it’s due. He’s delivered a serious deal. And totally outflanked Boris*.
Have been absent. Intriguing rumours on here I see about H&M, not seen a sausage about it elsewhere.
Speaking of not hearing a sausage elsewhere, what was the outcome of the Finland rumour? We’re two British PMs and a monarch on now. Surely it’s safe to give a hint
I am not convinced myself, and it is far from a split, just Harry getting a bit homesick.
What a sad tale.
I found "Spare" really interesting. Not so much the bits that were spread about, but rather the whole structure of the Royal Family and how it all works. Very strict on archaic protocol (indeed one of Harry's grievances is that he wasn't given due respect) but a pretty casual response to Harry's decades of smoking spliffs. He is pretty free about confessing this, and I think it does explain some of his paranoia.
A fascinating book, but not always in the way intended.
I think though that Harry will stick to Meghan and vice versa. They need each other.
The DUP are a bunch of prize knobends. What purpose do they serve beyond perennially agitating for endless dispute and disruption? Let the Alliance self-designate as Unionist for constitution convenience and Michelle O'Neill can lead NI as FM without the moronic Orange Brigade. Naomi Long as DFM.
No, the UUP could do that if they back the Deal, not the Alliance
If the DUP refuse to take part in governing their own province, nominate the next biggest party. Find a way! Change the law if necessary.
So abolish the Good Friday Agreement. 🤔
From what I've heard of the deal, I like it. It seems sensible. It seems like what I was saying we should do for years but people kept saying was an impossible unicorn.
But as far as the Good Friday Agreement goes, it isn't up to you and me who runs the province, its upto the two elected parties representing the cross community. Either a deal is reached satisfying them, or there's no deal as far as Stormont is concerned. Unless you repeal and abolish the Good Friday Agreement.
I don't think the Good Friday Agreement refers to "the two elected parties representing the cross community".
The reference is to "unionist and nationalist designations". It doesn't mention the DUP or largest party. I think there is scope for sidelining the DUP.
The DUP are a bunch of prize knobends. What purpose do they serve beyond perennially agitating for endless dispute and disruption? Let the Alliance self-designate as Unionist for constitution convenience and Michelle O'Neill can lead NI as FM without the moronic Orange Brigade. Naomi Long as DFM.
No, the UUP could do that if they back the Deal, not the Alliance
If the DUP refuse to take part in governing their own province, nominate the next biggest party. Find a way! Change the law if necessary.
So abolish the Good Friday Agreement. 🤔
From what I've heard of the deal, I like it. It seems sensible. It seems like what I was saying we should do for years but people kept saying was an impossible unicorn.
But as far as the Good Friday Agreement goes, it isn't up to you and me who runs the province, its upto the two elected parties representing the cross community. Either a deal is reached satisfying them, or there's no deal as far as Stormont is concerned. Unless you repeal and abolish the Good Friday Agreement.
I don't think the Good Friday Agreement refers to "the two elected parties representing the cross community".
The reference is to "unionist and nationalist designations". It doesn't mention the DUP or largest party. I think there is scope for sidelining the DUP.
That's what all these suggestions about the Alliance Party redesignating as Unionist are all about.
Is that actually even slightly likely, or is it more like the suggestions that Sinn Fein might have taken their Westminster seats to vote in some Brexit vote or other -- theoretically possible but in practice a pigs-flying event ?
The Alliance have form on designating as unionist for constitutional convenience…
That's what all these suggestions about the Alliance Party redesignating as Unionist are all about.
Is that actually even slightly likely, or is it more like the suggestions that Sinn Fein might have taken their Westminster seats to vote in some Brexit vote or other -- theoretically possible but in practice a pigs-flying event ?
The Alliance have form on designating as unionist for constitutional convenience…
They did it once, but have subsequently said they won't do it again.
Fantastic news. Hopefully Braverman will now do one.
It seems Sunak anticipates greater cooperation with Macron and the EU over the boat issue as a result of the new friendlier relationship
Confirmation of membership of ECHR seems a sensible part of this rapprochement
He seems to learn fast.
Sunak and Hunt are clearly aware that resolution of the NIP is essential and no doubt sees an opportunity to grow closer to the EU which I expect is broadly welcomed by most
Not "closer" to the EU. But a more pragmatic, workable relationship - now it is shorn of the "punishment beating" mentality in Brussels.
What a ludicrous post. Punishment beatings for goodness sake.
What ludicrous naivete to think that wasn't an attitude abroad in Brussels for our temerity to leave.
dixiedean - Hope you recover soon -- and completely.
Dr. Foxy and dixiedean - This Washington Post article describes still another "long COVID" syndrome: "postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome, a disorder of the autonomic nervous system that causes rapid heart rate, fainting and dizziness." source$: https://www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2023/02/27/pots-heart-fainting-long-covid/
I don't recall who first said here that it seemed as if COVID was actively countering every advance we made -- but it sure seems as if that is true, at times.
(In the US, Catholics that choose which items in their church's teachings to follow, and which not, are often called "cafeteria Catholics". (Nancy Pelosi is the most prominent example that comes to mind, though I assume she would reject that description.)
Fantastic news. Hopefully Braverman will now do one.
It seems Sunak anticipates greater cooperation with Macron and the EU over the boat issue as a result of the new friendlier relationship
Confirmation of membership of ECHR seems a sensible part of this rapprochement
He seems to learn fast.
Sunak and Hunt are clearly aware that resolution of the NIP is essential and no doubt sees an opportunity to grow closer to the EU which I expect is broadly welcomed by most
Not "closer" to the EU. But a more pragmatic, workable relationship - now it is shorn of the "punishment beating" mentality in Brussels.
What a ludicrous post. Punishment beatings for goodness sake.
What ludicrous naivete to think that wasn't an attitude abroad in Brussels for our temerity to leave.
Wait till you read what UK ministers, tabloids and grassroots nutters said about the EU.
Absolutely extraordinary interview with Steve Baker on Newsnight. He was choking back tears, wobbly lips, the lot. Then said he was stupid at ever accepting the Brexit hard man frame, and that his beard etc are the result of seven years of hell leading rebellions.
That's what all these suggestions about the Alliance Party redesignating as Unionist are all about.
Is that actually even slightly likely, or is it more like the suggestions that Sinn Fein might have taken their Westminster seats to vote in some Brexit vote or other -- theoretically possible but in practice a pigs-flying event ?
The Alliance have form on designating as unionist for constitutional convenience…
They did it once, but have subsequently said they won't do it again.
So they have said. They should reconsider. The DUP appear to have no interest in governing.
dixiedean - Hope you recover soon -- and completely.
Dr. Foxy and dixiedean - This Washington Post article describes still another "long COVID" syndrome: "postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome, a disorder of the autonomic nervous system that causes rapid heart rate, fainting and dizziness." source$: https://www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2023/02/27/pots-heart-fainting-long-covid/
I don't recall who first said here that it seemed as if COVID was actively countering every advance we made -- but it sure seems as if that is true, at times.
(In the US, Catholics that choose which items in their church's teachings to follow, and which not, are often called "cafeteria Catholics". (Nancy Pelosi is the most prominent example that comes to mind, though I assume she would reject that description.)
Cheers. That's about all I can come up with. Brain fog. But the sentiment is there
dixiedean - Hope you recover soon -- and completely.
Dr. Foxy and dixiedean - This Washington Post article describes still another "long COVID" syndrome: "postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome, a disorder of the autonomic nervous system that causes rapid heart rate, fainting and dizziness." source$: https://www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2023/02/27/pots-heart-fainting-long-covid/
I don't recall who first said here that it seemed as if COVID was actively countering every advance we made -- but it sure seems as if that is true, at times.
(In the US, Catholics that choose which items in their church's teachings to follow, and which not, are often called "cafeteria Catholics". (Nancy Pelosi is the most prominent example that comes to mind, though I assume she would reject that description.)
Christians who choose which items in their religions teachings to follow, and which not, are called Christians.
There are so many contradictions within the Bible its impossible for anyone to follow all of it, so people cherrypick which teachings to follow and which not. Typically, by pure coincidence of course, being the teachings they want to take anyway and the not the ones that would be inconvenient.
The DUP are a fxcking disgrace and clearly nothing bar a return to a hard border between NI and Ireland will satisfy them.
In early January 1994, the Ulster Defence Association (UDA) released a document calling for repartition combined with ethnic cleansing or even genocide, with the goal of making Northern Ireland wholly Protestant.[18] The plan was to be implemented should the British Army withdraw from Northern Ireland. The vastly Irish Catholic and nationalist areas would be handed over to the Republic, and those left stranded in the "Protestant state" would be "expelled, nullified, or interned".[18] The story was printed in the Sunday Independent newspaper on 16 January.[19] The "doomsday plan" was based on the work of Liam Kennedy, though he had not proposed expulsion.[18] Sammy Wilson, then press officer for the Democratic Unionist Party and later the MP for East Antrim, spoke positively of the document, calling it a "valuable return to reality" and lauded the UDA for "contemplating what needs to be done to maintain our separate Ulster identity".[18]
And tonight… for my final Westminster Hour as a BBC staffer, look who dropped in to talk to me and my marvellous Editor Libby Jukes. Hear Sir John Major’s thoughts on Northern Ireland and politics in general at 10pm https://twitter.com/BBCcarolynquinn/status/1629924522903085056
Major calls both Sunak and Starmer 'honest and reliable' which he says makes a refreshing change from recent years and particularly welcomes Sunak's focus on policy not publicity despite disagreement on Brexit
The DUP are a fxcking disgrace and clearly nothing bar a return to a hard border between NI and Ireland will satisfy them.
In early January 1994, the Ulster Defence Association (UDA) released a document calling for repartition combined with ethnic cleansing or even genocide, with the goal of making Northern Ireland wholly Protestant.[18] The plan was to be implemented should the British Army withdraw from Northern Ireland. The vastly Irish Catholic and nationalist areas would be handed over to the Republic, and those left stranded in the "Protestant state" would be "expelled, nullified, or interned".[18] The story was printed in the Sunday Independent newspaper on 16 January.[19] The "doomsday plan" was based on the work of Liam Kennedy, though he had not proposed expulsion.[18] Sammy Wilson, then press officer for the Democratic Unionist Party and later the MP for East Antrim, spoke positively of the document, calling it a "valuable return to reality" and lauded the UDA for "contemplating what needs to be done to maintain our separate Ulster identity".[18]
The DUP are a fxcking disgrace and clearly nothing bar a return to a hard border between NI and Ireland will satisfy them.
In early January 1994, the Ulster Defence Association (UDA) released a document calling for repartition combined with ethnic cleansing or even genocide, with the goal of making Northern Ireland wholly Protestant.[18] The plan was to be implemented should the British Army withdraw from Northern Ireland. The vastly Irish Catholic and nationalist areas would be handed over to the Republic, and those left stranded in the "Protestant state" would be "expelled, nullified, or interned".[18] The story was printed in the Sunday Independent newspaper on 16 January.[19] The "doomsday plan" was based on the work of Liam Kennedy, though he had not proposed expulsion.[18] Sammy Wilson, then press officer for the Democratic Unionist Party and later the MP for East Antrim, spoke positively of the document, calling it a "valuable return to reality" and lauded the UDA for "contemplating what needs to be done to maintain our separate Ulster identity".[18]
The DUP are a fxcking disgrace and clearly nothing bar a return to a hard border between NI and Ireland will satisfy them.
In early January 1994, the Ulster Defence Association (UDA) released a document calling for repartition combined with ethnic cleansing or even genocide, with the goal of making Northern Ireland wholly Protestant.[18] The plan was to be implemented should the British Army withdraw from Northern Ireland. The vastly Irish Catholic and nationalist areas would be handed over to the Republic, and those left stranded in the "Protestant state" would be "expelled, nullified, or interned".[18] The story was printed in the Sunday Independent newspaper on 16 January.[19] The "doomsday plan" was based on the work of Liam Kennedy, though he had not proposed expulsion.[18] Sammy Wilson, then press officer for the Democratic Unionist Party and later the MP for East Antrim, spoke positively of the document, calling it a "valuable return to reality" and lauded the UDA for "contemplating what needs to be done to maintain our separate Ulster identity".[18]
dixiedean - Hope you recover soon -- and completely.
Dr. Foxy and dixiedean - This Washington Post article describes still another "long COVID" syndrome: "postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome, a disorder of the autonomic nervous system that causes rapid heart rate, fainting and dizziness." source$: https://www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2023/02/27/pots-heart-fainting-long-covid/
I don't recall who first said here that it seemed as if COVID was actively countering every advance we made -- but it sure seems as if that is true, at times.
(In the US, Catholics that choose which items in their church's teachings to follow, and which not, are often called "cafeteria Catholics". (Nancy Pelosi is the most prominent example that comes to mind, though I assume she would reject that description.)
Cheers. That's about all I can come up with. Brain fog. But the sentiment is there
Guy I know who was bright as a button (late 40s) was hit with covid, and now says when he gets the bottom of a page while reading a book realises he's kinda forgotten what the page was about so has to start over.
I do hope it clears up for him - and you, and everyone. Selfishly, for my own sake - but also that of the health services around the world.
The DUP are a fxcking disgrace and clearly nothing bar a return to a hard border between NI and Ireland will satisfy them.
In early January 1994, the Ulster Defence Association (UDA) released a document calling for repartition combined with ethnic cleansing or even genocide, with the goal of making Northern Ireland wholly Protestant.[18] The plan was to be implemented should the British Army withdraw from Northern Ireland. The vastly Irish Catholic and nationalist areas would be handed over to the Republic, and those left stranded in the "Protestant state" would be "expelled, nullified, or interned".[18] The story was printed in the Sunday Independent newspaper on 16 January.[19] The "doomsday plan" was based on the work of Liam Kennedy, though he had not proposed expulsion.[18] Sammy Wilson, then press officer for the Democratic Unionist Party and later the MP for East Antrim, spoke positively of the document, calling it a "valuable return to reality" and lauded the UDA for "contemplating what needs to be done to maintain our separate Ulster identity".[18]
dixiedean - Hope you recover soon -- and completely.
Dr. Foxy and dixiedean - This Washington Post article describes still another "long COVID" syndrome: "postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome, a disorder of the autonomic nervous system that causes rapid heart rate, fainting and dizziness." source$: https://www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2023/02/27/pots-heart-fainting-long-covid/
I don't recall who first said here that it seemed as if COVID was actively countering every advance we made -- but it sure seems as if that is true, at times.
(In the US, Catholics that choose which items in their church's teachings to follow, and which not, are often called "cafeteria Catholics". (Nancy Pelosi is the most prominent example that comes to mind, though I assume she would reject that description.)
Christians who choose which items in their religions teachings to follow, and which not, are called Christians.
There are so many contradictions within the Bible its impossible for anyone to follow all of it, so people cherrypick which teachings to follow and which not. Typically, by pure coincidence of course, being the teachings they want to take
anyway and the not the ones that would be inconvenient.
The DUP are a fxcking disgrace and clearly nothing bar a return to a hard border between NI and Ireland will satisfy them.
In early January 1994, the Ulster Defence Association (UDA) released a document calling for repartition combined with ethnic cleansing or even genocide, with the goal of making Northern Ireland wholly Protestant.[18] The plan was to be implemented should the British Army withdraw from Northern Ireland. The vastly Irish Catholic and nationalist areas would be handed over to the Republic, and those left stranded in the "Protestant state" would be "expelled, nullified, or interned".[18] The story was printed in the Sunday Independent newspaper on 16 January.[19] The "doomsday plan" was based on the work of Liam Kennedy, though he had not proposed expulsion.[18] Sammy Wilson, then press officer for the Democratic Unionist Party and later the MP for East Antrim, spoke positively of the document, calling it a "valuable return to reality" and lauded the UDA for "contemplating what needs to be done to maintain our separate Ulster identity".[18]
The DUP are a fxcking disgrace and clearly nothing bar a return to a hard border between NI and Ireland will satisfy them.
In early January 1994, the Ulster Defence Association (UDA) released a document calling for repartition combined with ethnic cleansing or even genocide, with the goal of making Northern Ireland wholly Protestant.[18] The plan was to be implemented should the British Army withdraw from Northern Ireland. The vastly Irish Catholic and nationalist areas would be handed over to the Republic, and those left stranded in the "Protestant state" would be "expelled, nullified, or interned".[18] The story was printed in the Sunday Independent newspaper on 16 January.[19] The "doomsday plan" was based on the work of Liam Kennedy, though he had not proposed expulsion.[18] Sammy Wilson, then press officer for the Democratic Unionist Party and later the MP for East Antrim, spoke positively of the document, calling it a "valuable return to reality" and lauded the UDA for "contemplating what needs to be done to maintain our separate Ulster identity".[18]
I find it difficult to see the connection between post and reply. The reply is about political preferences under the GFA whereas the post was about a plan for ethnic cleansing.
The DUP are a fxcking disgrace and clearly nothing bar a return to a hard border between NI and Ireland will satisfy them.
In early January 1994, the Ulster Defence Association (UDA) released a document calling for repartition combined with ethnic cleansing or even genocide, with the goal of making Northern Ireland wholly Protestant.[18] The plan was to be implemented should the British Army withdraw from Northern Ireland. The vastly Irish Catholic and nationalist areas would be handed over to the Republic, and those left stranded in the "Protestant state" would be "expelled, nullified, or interned".[18] The story was printed in the Sunday Independent newspaper on 16 January.[19] The "doomsday plan" was based on the work of Liam Kennedy, though he had not proposed expulsion.[18] Sammy Wilson, then press officer for the Democratic Unionist Party and later the MP for East Antrim, spoke positively of the document, calling it a "valuable return to reality" and lauded the UDA for "contemplating what needs to be done to maintain our separate Ulster identity".[18]
The DUP are a fxcking disgrace and clearly nothing bar a return to a hard border between NI and Ireland will satisfy them.
In early January 1994, the Ulster Defence Association (UDA) released a document calling for repartition combined with ethnic cleansing or even genocide, with the goal of making Northern Ireland wholly Protestant.[18] The plan was to be implemented should the British Army withdraw from Northern Ireland. The vastly Irish Catholic and nationalist areas would be handed over to the Republic, and those left stranded in the "Protestant state" would be "expelled, nullified, or interned".[18] The story was printed in the Sunday Independent newspaper on 16 January.[19] The "doomsday plan" was based on the work of Liam Kennedy, though he had not proposed expulsion.[18] Sammy Wilson, then press officer for the Democratic Unionist Party and later the MP for East Antrim, spoke positively of the document, calling it a "valuable return to reality" and lauded the UDA for "contemplating what needs to be done to maintain our separate Ulster identity".[18]
I find it difficult to see the connection between post and reply. The reply is about political preferences under the GFA whereas the post was about a plan for ethnic cleansing.
Given 21% of Northern Irish Protestants do not want to stay in the UK and 45% of Northern Irish Catholics do not want a United Ireland, religion is not the dividing line it once was in terms of views of the Union in Northern Ireland. So redefining Northern Ireland as a solely Protestant state would not make it 100% Unionist anyway
The DUP are a fxcking disgrace and clearly nothing bar a return to a hard border between NI and Ireland will satisfy them.
They fear the future, whatever it may bring, so spend their time just huddling together assuming that if they prevent anything at all that will be a good result.
Would be pretty wild for hundreds of millions of pounds to have been spent on preparations for a deposit return scheme, to be this far through registration etc (producer deadline tomorrow), and there still to be a chance of it falling apart over a fairly foundational issue…
The responsibility for taking the initiative to get permissions in time from a third party, whoever they are, rests with the organisation making the change, whatever it is. This is the most basic thing anyone who's done a job in government has been expected to know, always./...
Any spin in any context that it's anyone's fault but the SG's if an approach wasn't made to a 3rd party in time, at the appropriate level, with the appropriate formality and clarity, should always be challenged. People are paid grown-up salaries in Scotland to do this stuff.
Apparently the Russian invasion is entirely the fault of the US.
Is it not just a little bit Jeff Sach’s fault for his role in the transition to a “market econony” in Russia that ultimately led to the rise of Putin’s gangster-autocracy?
The DUP are a fxcking disgrace and clearly nothing bar a return to a hard border between NI and Ireland will satisfy them.
In early January 1994, the Ulster Defence Association (UDA) released a document calling for repartition combined with ethnic cleansing or even genocide, with the goal of making Northern Ireland wholly Protestant.[18] The plan was to be implemented should the British Army withdraw from Northern Ireland. The vastly Irish Catholic and nationalist areas would be handed over to the Republic, and those left stranded in the "Protestant state" would be "expelled, nullified, or interned".[18] The story was printed in the Sunday Independent newspaper on 16 January.[19] The "doomsday plan" was based on the work of Liam Kennedy, though he had not proposed expulsion.[18] Sammy Wilson, then press officer for the Democratic Unionist Party and later the MP for East Antrim, spoke positively of the document, calling it a "valuable return to reality" and lauded the UDA for "contemplating what needs to be done to maintain our separate Ulster identity".[18]
Apparently the Russian invasion is entirely the fault of the US.
Joins?
Sachs has been a madman for many years now. He's been blaming Russia's invasion on the US since the beginning of the war, Covid19 came from an American lab, and its the Uighurs fault* they're being wiped out by China and its not at all a genocide** nosiree ...
Absolutely extraordinary interview with Steve Baker on Newsnight. He was choking back tears, wobbly lips, the lot. Then said he was stupid at ever accepting the Brexit hard man frame, and that his beard etc are the result of seven years of hell leading rebellions.
He honestly seems a bit more genuine than many politicians, which may be why he can surprise, negatively and positively.
The DUP are a fxcking disgrace and clearly nothing bar a return to a hard border between NI and Ireland will satisfy them.
In early January 1994, the Ulster Defence Association (UDA) released a document calling for repartition combined with ethnic cleansing or even genocide, with the goal of making Northern Ireland wholly Protestant.[18] The plan was to be implemented should the British Army withdraw from Northern Ireland. The vastly Irish Catholic and nationalist areas would be handed over to the Republic, and those left stranded in the "Protestant state" would be "expelled, nullified, or interned".[18] The story was printed in the Sunday Independent newspaper on 16 January.[19] The "doomsday plan" was based on the work of Liam Kennedy, though he had not proposed expulsion.[18] Sammy Wilson, then press officer for the Democratic Unionist Party and later the MP for East Antrim, spoke positively of the document, calling it a "valuable return to reality" and lauded the UDA for "contemplating what needs to be done to maintain our separate Ulster identity".[18]
China now exporting as many cars as Germany (almost certainly much lower revenue and profit, though)
It’s almost as if Covid was a bio weapon released from wuhan to fuel china’s rise to industrial hegemony over the west
@Leon Close but not quite. Selling cars is a side benefit. If it came from the lab, "lab leak" is highly unlikely. One doesn't have to be a Bayesian to suss that. In a sense, China is the lab. Twitter and Facebook love social credit. Social credit is The Way. AI is a distraction. Programs will never take over. Wait till you find out which western companies are big in Xinjiang.
Apparently the Russian invasion is entirely the fault of the US.
Joins?
Sachs has been a madman for many years now. He's been blaming Russia's invasion on the US since the beginning of the war, Covid19 came from an American lab, and its the Uighurs fault* they're being wiped out by China and its not at all a genocide** nosiree ...
* OK I made that one up, but ** not that one.
It’s the level of denial, though. Actually said that Assad wasn’t murdering civilians, and there’d have been a peaceful settlement in Syria without US meddling.
Apparently the Russian invasion is entirely the fault of the US.
Joins?
Sachs has been a madman for many years now. He's been blaming Russia's invasion on the US since the beginning of the war, Covid19 came from an American lab, and its the Uighurs fault* they're being wiped out by China and its not at all a genocide** nosiree ...
* OK I made that one up, but ** not that one.
It’s the level of denial, though. Actually said that Assad wasn’t murdering civilians, and there’d have been a peaceful settlement in Syria without US meddling.
Also seems to be dabbling in anti-vaxxery.
Full tonto.
I'm no psychiatrist by any means, but I have a feeling he couldn't cope seeing how badly Russia went in the 90s following his advice and he's just snapped. He's been full on round the bend crazy for years now.
Interesting data from the previous Deltapoll shows Rishi is winning back some Remainers but losing Leavers, maybe reinforced by this Deal.
79% of 2019 Conservative voting Remainers still back the Tories but only 60% of 2019 Conservative voting Leavers are still voting Tory.
3% of 2019 Labour voting Remainers by contrast now back Sunak's Tories but only 1% of 2019 Labour voting Leavers have switched to the Tories.
The class figures now show the Tories doing better with middle class voters than working class voters, a reverse of 2019. The Tories were on 29% with ABC1s but only 27% with C2DEs. Starmer by contrast has won back working class voters, 55% of C2DEs now back Labour compared to only 47% of ABC1s https://deltapoll.co.uk/polls/voteint230221
Interesting data from the previous Deltapoll shows Rishi is winning back some Remainers but losing Leavers, maybe reinforced by this Deal.
Not sure why, we're just as left as we were before Rishi took over. But then maybe I'm analysing too much considering the Sunak 'remainer traitor' stuff from the leadership contest.
Sunak needs to call the vote on a 3 line whip and withdraw the whip from anyone who abstains or votes against hence resetting the party
Why does he need to? That's a last resort, as Major did over Maastricht and Boris did after years of paralysis in the previous Parliament.
First step and even better normally is calling the vote on a normal whip, and winning the vote handsomely because people have backed it, rather than because of desperate shenanigans.
All but one of Major's "bastards" voted for Maastricht once it was made a confidence motion, didn't end the divide, did it?
The DUP are a fxcking disgrace and clearly nothing bar a return to a hard border between NI and Ireland will satisfy them.
They fear the future, whatever it may bring, so spend their time just huddling together assuming that if they prevent anything at all that will be a good result.
The DUP is the political wing of the Free Presybterian Church of Ulster, and while it's true that they fear the future it's also true that they get off on fearing the future. They think they know what the future will bring, because they believe it's all written in the Book of Revelations. The principal factor in everything they say about the border or the Irish Sea is their belief that the Roman Catholic church is the Antichrist, that it owns both the RoI and the EU, and that it's hell-bent on coming to get them. They love "holding out" more than everything. Their whole mythos is based on it. They are far crazier than the IRA ever were. The IRA's mythos was kitsch in comparison.
I don't think a single newspaper has mentioned why it is that the DUP dislike the EU.
The fact that Fox/Murdoch were swayed by "the green" is hardly shocking. Bad, but to be expected.
This I'm actually shocked by: https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status/1630319070393270280 Rupert Murdoch gave Trump son-in-law/aide Jared Kushner access to "Fox confidential information about Biden's ads," apparently showing them to him before they were public.
The fact that Fox/Murdoch were swayed by "the green" is hardly shocking. Bad, but to be expected.
This I'm actually shocked by: https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status/1630319070393270280 Rupert Murdoch gave Trump son-in-law/aide Jared Kushner access to "Fox confidential information about Biden's ads," apparently showing them to him before they were public.
Of course. But it’s a libel trial*, and they’ve completely admitted that they knew they were lying about the company which is suing them, and carried on doing so, for money. They even sacked their own fact checking team for saying so.
The DUP are a fxcking disgrace and clearly nothing bar a return to a hard border between NI and Ireland will satisfy them.
They fear the future, whatever it may bring, so spend their time just huddling together assuming that if they prevent anything at all that will be a good result.
The DUP is the political wing of the Free Presybterian Church of Ulster, and while it's true that they fear the future it's also true that they get off on fearing the future. They think they know what the future will bring, because they believe it's all written in the Book of Revelations. The principal factor in everything they say about the border or the Irish Sea is their belief that the Roman Catholic church is the Antichrist, that it owns both the RoI and the EU, and that it's hell-bent on coming to get them. They love "holding out" more than everything. Their whole mythos is based on it. They are far crazier than the IRA ever were. The IRA's mythos was kitsch in comparison.
I don't think a single newspaper has mentioned why it is that the DUP dislike the EU.
Indeed, the DUP are close in doctrine to Forbes' Free Church of Scotland via the Free Presbyterians, as are the TUV.
The UUP tend to be Church of Ireland, SF and the SDLP Roman Catholic and non religious, the Alliance a mix of Catholic, Protestant and non religious
The fact that Fox/Murdoch were swayed by "the green" is hardly shocking. Bad, but to be expected.
This I'm actually shocked by: https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status/1630319070393270280 Rupert Murdoch gave Trump son-in-law/aide Jared Kushner access to "Fox confidential information about Biden's ads," apparently showing them to him before they were public.
I think the money point is because in order to prove the required standard Dominion basically need to show Fox was motivated to intentionally lie or have reckless disregard for lies they were spreading, so an admission, however obvious, that their coverage is all about the dollar bills helps the case more than its obviousness would suggest.
On this amendment to the NI protocol, I posted last night that anything that smoothed GB-NI trade was a win, so this looks like a pretty big win. I think your average small u unionist expects that trading arrangements are fairly simple; NI is seen as part of GB on a day to day basis. Thats it.
This agreement seems on the surface to be substantively moving things to that situation. Does that Joe Average unionist really care about the ECJ in a trade dispute? I am not that sure.
Whilst I think Alaistair Meeks is perhaps hyping things on the double dunter potential like a TikToker promoting some fad, the basics of accepting that NI was a kind of special case (sadly) did have potential to give some benefits but the previous agreement could have strangled Harry Houdini. Whether people like it or not, NI is still very much in the UK and the Protocol undermined that in a very bread and butter way.
Apparently the Russian invasion is entirely the fault of the US.
Joins?
Sachs has been a madman for many years now. He's been blaming Russia's invasion on the US since the beginning of the war, Covid19 came from an American lab, and its the Uighurs fault* they're being wiped out by China and its not at all a genocide** nosiree ...
* OK I made that one up, but ** not that one.
No need to make stuff up. Sachs denounces the genocide allegation without mentioning the allegation that the Chinese authorities are imposing forced sterilisations and forced contraception (IUDs) to reduce the Uighur birth rate. If that's true it's certainly a crime against humanity. I'm not sure that Sachs mentions the camps either, or anything else that's equally specific - such as the popup police stations and the digital surveillance which is of course big in China against everyone but is especially targeted in Xinjiang at the non-Han. He just goes on about the word genocide. He sounds as if he's the Chinese govenrment's lawyer. He is writing for those who haven't got a clue or who at least are way behind the times when he refers to Uighur volunteers in Afghanistan and Syria. Meanwhile Amnesty focus on Urumqi where the situation is admittedly bad but if you were to read only their material you would come away with the idea that there's a large Uighur majority in Urumqi. Urumqi isn't Kashgar. What's happening in Xinjiang should be much more widely known.
The DUP are a fxcking disgrace and clearly nothing bar a return to a hard border between NI and Ireland will satisfy them.
They fear the future, whatever it may bring, so spend their time just huddling together assuming that if they prevent anything at all that will be a good result.
The DUP is the political wing of the Free Presybterian Church of Ulster, and while it's true that they fear the future it's also true that they get off on fearing the future. They think they know what the future will bring, because they believe it's all written in the Book of Revelations. The principal factor in everything they say about the border or the Irish Sea is their belief that the Roman Catholic church is the Antichrist, that it owns both the RoI and the EU, and that it's hell-bent on coming to get them. They love "holding out" more than everything. Their whole mythos is based on it. They are far crazier than the IRA ever were. The IRA's mythos was kitsch in comparison.
I don't think a single newspaper has mentioned why it is that the DUP dislike the EU.
This view is about 30 years out of date. But, you know, some people just never move on....
The DUP are a fxcking disgrace and clearly nothing bar a return to a hard border between NI and Ireland will satisfy them.
They fear the future, whatever it may bring, so spend their time just huddling together assuming that if they prevent anything at all that will be a good result.
The DUP is the political wing of the Free Presybterian Church of Ulster, and while it's true that they fear the future it's also true that they get off on fearing the future. They think they know what the future will bring, because they believe it's all written in the Book of Revelations. The principal factor in everything they say about the border or the Irish Sea is their belief that the Roman Catholic church is the Antichrist, that it owns both the RoI and the EU, and that it's hell-bent on coming to get them. They love "holding out" more than everything. Their whole mythos is based on it. They are far crazier than the IRA ever were. The IRA's mythos was kitsch in comparison.
I don't think a single newspaper has mentioned why it is that the DUP dislike the EU.
This view is about 30 years out of date. But, you know, some people just never move on....
I take it you mean my view rather than the view I am ascribing to the DUP. What was the reason in your view that the DUP opposed Britain's EU membership?
I didn't think this would have any effect. Almost no-one on the mainland bases their vote on what happens to NI. But maybe among of that huge cohort which has abandoned the Tories in the polls there is a chunk for whom a veneer of competence might prove the excuse they need to return.
The DUP are a fxcking disgrace and clearly nothing bar a return to a hard border between NI and Ireland will satisfy them.
They fear the future, whatever it may bring, so spend their time just huddling together assuming that if they prevent anything at all that will be a good result.
The DUP is the political wing of the Free Presybterian Church of Ulster, and while it's true that they fear the future it's also true that they get off on fearing the future. They think they know what the future will bring, because they believe it's all written in the Book of Revelations. The principal factor in everything they say about the border or the Irish Sea is their belief that the Roman Catholic church is the Antichrist, that it owns both the RoI and the EU, and that it's hell-bent on coming to get them. They love "holding out" more than everything. Their whole mythos is based on it. They are far crazier than the IRA ever were. The IRA's mythos was kitsch in comparison.
I don't think a single newspaper has mentioned why it is that the DUP dislike the EU.
This view is about 30 years out of date. But, you know, some people just never move on....
I take it you mean my view rather than the view I am ascribing to the DUP. What was the reason in your view that the DUP opposed Britain's EU membership?
National Sovereignty considered more important than Supranational bodies having greater power, don't think the EU was an honest broker are probably two for a start. Take a long hard look at the make up of the party today, sure it still has its Paisleyite religious types but it is largely dominated by poeople who have fuck all interest in Free Presbyetrianism. In fact the DUP is chock full of fucking technocrats and wonks in the back offices, not people holding prayer meetings. Since Paisley they have had one leader in the deeply religious mould. It didnt protect him from being put out on his arse after a couple of months.
Whats People Before Profits Excuse for its anti EU stance at times? Are they the radical wing of Catholicism and fear the EU is full of Prods?
The DUP are a fxcking disgrace and clearly nothing bar a return to a hard border between NI and Ireland will satisfy them.
They fear the future, whatever it may bring, so spend their time just huddling together assuming that if they prevent anything at all that will be a good result.
The DUP is the political wing of the Free Presybterian Church of Ulster, and while it's true that they fear the future it's also true that they get off on fearing the future. They think they know what the future will bring, because they believe it's all written in the Book of Revelations. The principal factor in everything they say about the border or the Irish Sea is their belief that the Roman Catholic church is the Antichrist, that it owns both the RoI and the EU, and that it's hell-bent on coming to get them. They love "holding out" more than everything. Their whole mythos is based on it. They are far crazier than the IRA ever were. The IRA's mythos was kitsch in comparison.
I don't think a single newspaper has mentioned why it is that the DUP dislike the EU.
This view is about 30 years out of date. But, you know, some people just never move on....
I take it you mean my view rather than the view I am ascribing to the DUP. What was the reason in your view that the DUP opposed Britain's EU membership?
National Sovereignty considered more important than Supranational bodies having greater power, don't think the EU was an honest broker are probably two for a start. Take a long hard look at the make up of the party today, sure it still has its Paisleyite religious types but it is largely dominated by poeople who have fuck all interest in Free Presbyetrianism. In fact the DUP is chock full of fucking technocrats and wonks in the back offices, not people holding prayer meetings. Since Paisley they have had one leader in the deeply religious mould. It didnt protect him from being put out on his arse after a couple of months.
Whats People Before Profits Excuse for its anti EU stance at times? Are they the radical wing of Catholicism and fear the EU is full of Prods?
People Before Profit have supported leaving the EU[53] and campaigned for a 'Lexit' (a left-wing Brexit) in the 2016 EU referendum in Northern Ireland.[54][55] Commenting on their pro-Brexit position, Gerry Carroll stated "We made a decision to say that the EU does not operate in the interests of working people anywhere, and the strongest example of that is Greece. What we need is a Brexit that is not shaped by Theresa May, we need one that is shaped by working-class people in Northern Ireland, England, Scotland and Wales. And one that is shaped by the trade union movement."[56] Members of Sinn Féin criticised this stance, saying that supporting Brexit, tactically or otherwise, aligned PBP with British parties such as the Conservatives, UKIP, the Democratic Unionist Party and Traditional Unionist Voice and regardless of PBP's intentions, this would serve the pro-Brexit agenda.[57] In response, Richard Boyd-Barrett tried to distance PBP's position from those parties, and noted that PBP opposed a hard border, and would encourage "a movement of civil disobedience to remove border posts if they are imposed by either the UK government or the EU".[58]
Hidden behind some others news today, have we given enough attention to Ed Balls attack on the vagueness of Starmer, and Labours silence on fixing social care?
Feck. One run short, closest Test match in years but really should have been an easy win for England.
England probably shouldn't have enforced the follow on: their bowlers were tired, there was plenty of time in the day.
But you know what? England is playing superbly and aggressively.
Better the occasional game lost, than a team that plays for draws.
The turning point in the match was the 8th-wicket stand of 98 in New Zealand's first innings, scored at seven an over and featuring Southee's 49-ball 73.
The result is a vindication of England's method, not a refutation.
The DUP are a fxcking disgrace and clearly nothing bar a return to a hard border between NI and Ireland will satisfy them.
They fear the future, whatever it may bring, so spend their time just huddling together assuming that if they prevent anything at all that will be a good result.
The DUP is the political wing of the Free Presybterian Church of Ulster, and while it's true that they fear the future it's also true that they get off on fearing the future. They think they know what the future will bring, because they believe it's all written in the Book of Revelations. The principal factor in everything they say about the border or the Irish Sea is their belief that the Roman Catholic church is the Antichrist, that it owns both the RoI and the EU, and that it's hell-bent on coming to get them. They love "holding out" more than everything. Their whole mythos is based on it. They are far crazier than the IRA ever were. The IRA's mythos was kitsch in comparison.
I don't think a single newspaper has mentioned why it is that the DUP dislike the EU.
This view is about 30 years out of date. But, you know, some people just never move on....
I take it you mean my view rather than the view I am ascribing to the DUP. What was the reason in your view that the DUP opposed Britain's EU membership?
National Sovereignty considered more important than Supranational bodies having greater power, don't think the EU was an honest broker are probably two for a start. Take a long hard look at the make up of the party today, sure it still has its Paisleyite religious types but it is largely dominated by poeople who have fuck all interest in Free Presbyetrianism. In fact the DUP is chock full of fucking technocrats and wonks in the back offices, not people holding prayer meetings. Since Paisley they have had one leader in the deeply religious mould. It didnt protect him from being put out on his arse after a couple of months.
Whats People Before Profits Excuse for its anti EU stance at times? Are they the radical wing of Catholicism and fear the EU is full of Prods?
I hadn't heard of PBP. Three minutes of lookup on the internet suggests they don't seem to think the EU is full of Protestants or anything similar. I doubt they're any kind of wing of Catholicism. They don't seem to be about defending ethnic traditions, let alone any that date back to the 17th century.
National sovereignty considered more important than supranational bodies? That's a legitimate view, but if it's so important to the DUP do they propose that Britain should leave NATO or tell the ECHR and ICJ where to get off? Also they are Irish. I'm not telling them what identity or politics they should have, but Ulster is a province of Ireland. They're British too, and it's their British identity that's far more important to them. Why? It can't just be "because". It's to do with tradition and being Protestant and against rule by evil Dublin.
As for broker, I didn't realise the EU was a broker. Is that how they see it??
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Suprising?
Right tactics for the spinner, though.
Dr. Foxy and dixiedean - This Washington Post article describes still another "long COVID" syndrome: "postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome, a disorder of the autonomic nervous system that causes rapid heart rate, fainting and dizziness."
source$: https://www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2023/02/27/pots-heart-fainting-long-covid/
I don't recall who first said here that it seemed as if COVID was actively countering every advance we made -- but it sure seems as if that is true, at times.
(In the US, Catholics that choose which items in their church's teachings to follow, and which not, are often called "cafeteria Catholics". (Nancy Pelosi is the most prominent example that comes to mind, though I assume she would reject that description.)
The DUP are a fxcking disgrace and clearly nothing bar a return to a hard border between NI and Ireland will satisfy them.
That's about all I can come up with. Brain fog. But the sentiment is there
There are so many contradictions within the Bible its impossible for anyone to follow all of it, so people cherrypick which teachings to follow and which not. Typically, by pure coincidence of course, being the teachings they want to take anyway and the not the ones that would be inconvenient.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repartition_of_Ireland
Plenty of witnesses.
I do hope it clears up for him - and you, and everyone. Selfishly, for my own sake - but also that of the health services around the world.
'Yet only 55% of Northern Irish Catholics want a United Ireland while 79% of Northern Irish Protestants want to stay in the UK
https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2022/12/03/poll-less-enthusiasm-for-unity-among-catholics-in-north-than-among-republics-respondents/'
https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/jeffrey-sachss-great-power-politics
Apparently the Russian invasion is entirely the fault of the US.
https://twitter.com/BBCPhilipSim/status/1630288319715131398?s=20
The responsibility for taking the initiative to get permissions in time from a third party, whoever they are, rests with the organisation making the change, whatever it is. This is the most basic thing anyone who's done a job in government has been expected to know, always./...
Any spin in any context that it's anyone's fault but the SG's if an approach wasn't made to a 3rd party in time, at the appropriate level, with the appropriate formality and clarity, should always be challenged. People are paid grown-up salaries in Scotland to do this stuff.
https://twitter.com/LucyHunterB/status/1630345278166319104?s=20
Sachs has been a madman for many years now. He's been blaming Russia's invasion on the US since the beginning of the war, Covid19 came from an American lab, and its the Uighurs fault* they're being wiped out by China and its not at all a genocide** nosiree ...
* OK I made that one up, but ** not that one.
Close but not quite. Selling cars is a side benefit.
If it came from the lab, "lab leak" is highly unlikely. One doesn't have to be a Bayesian to suss that.
In a sense, China is the lab.
Twitter and Facebook love social credit. Social credit is The Way. AI is a distraction. Programs will never take over.
Wait till you find out which western companies are big in Xinjiang.
Actually said that Assad wasn’t murdering civilians, and there’d have been a peaceful settlement in Syria without US meddling.
Also seems to be dabbling in anti-vaxxery.
Full tonto.
Thought she was going to resign
79% of 2019 Conservative voting Remainers still back the Tories but only 60% of 2019 Conservative voting Leavers are still voting Tory.
3% of 2019 Labour voting Remainers by contrast now back Sunak's Tories but only 1% of 2019 Labour voting Leavers have switched to the Tories.
The class figures now show the Tories doing better with middle class voters than working class voters, a reverse of 2019. The Tories were on 29% with ABC1s but only 27% with C2DEs. Starmer by contrast has won back working class voters, 55% of C2DEs now back Labour compared to only 47% of ABC1s
https://deltapoll.co.uk/polls/voteint230221
Media Matters has obtained a copy of the latest Dominion filing, featuring Rupert Murdoch's deposition (and some light redactions from the court).
I will be tweeting out snippets in this thread as I read through it.
https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status/1630317375533744130
First step and even better normally is calling the vote on a normal whip, and winning the vote handsomely because people have backed it, rather than because of desperate shenanigans.
All but one of Major's "bastards" voted for Maastricht once it was made a confidence motion, didn't end the divide, did it?
But it might stop the rot progressing,
I don't think a single newspaper has mentioned why it is that the DUP dislike the EU.
This I'm actually shocked by: https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status/1630319070393270280
Rupert Murdoch gave Trump son-in-law/aide Jared Kushner access to "Fox confidential information about Biden's ads," apparently showing them to him before they were public.
But it’s a libel trial*, and they’ve completely admitted that they knew they were lying about the company which is suing them, and carried on doing so, for money.
They even sacked their own fact checking team for saying so.
*edit - case.
It may never get to trial,
The UUP tend to be Church of Ireland, SF and the SDLP Roman Catholic and non religious, the Alliance a mix of Catholic, Protestant and non religious
He knows what he's doing.
Keep Jimmy and Broad bowling as they are, the team batting as they are, this could be quite the Ashes to look forward to.
https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/223646.html
This agreement seems on the surface to be substantively moving things to that situation. Does that Joe Average unionist really care about the ECJ in a trade dispute? I am not that sure.
Whilst I think Alaistair Meeks is perhaps hyping things on the double dunter potential like a TikToker promoting some fad, the basics of accepting that NI was a kind of special case (sadly) did have potential to give some benefits but the previous agreement could have strangled Harry Houdini. Whether people like it or not, NI is still very much in the UK and the Protocol undermined that in a very bread and butter way.
Whats People Before Profits Excuse for its anti EU stance at times? Are they the radical wing of Catholicism and fear the EU is full of Prods?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_Before_Profit
I’m getting likes and no dissent on ConHome for my calm nuanced analysis of this situation.
A week can be a long time in politics. I wonder what will happen next ☺️
Per Le Monde
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/feb/27/keir-starmer-five-national-missions-economy-ed-balls-criticism
7 runs or 1 wicket.
Couldn't be more tense. Test cricket, you've got to love it.
Wicket - NZ win
1 run - Tie
2 runs - England win
Stressful.
Match for the ages that.
But you know what? England is playing superbly and aggressively.
Better the occasional game lost, than a team that plays for draws.
The result is a vindication of England's method, not a refutation.
National sovereignty considered more important than supranational bodies? That's a legitimate view, but if it's so important to the DUP do they propose that Britain should leave NATO or tell the ECHR and ICJ where to get off? Also they are Irish. I'm not telling them what identity or politics they should have, but Ulster is a province of Ireland. They're British too, and it's their British identity that's far more important to them. Why? It can't just be "because". It's to do with tradition and being Protestant and against rule by evil Dublin.
As for broker, I didn't realise the EU was a broker. Is that how they see it??