The “deal” getting a good response so far – politicalbetting.com
The “deal” getting a good response so far – politicalbetting.com
Has Rishi Sunak done the unthinkable and found a deal that the EU, ERG and DUP all agree on? pic.twitter.com/rkm3zxGfDU
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Horizon today, single market soon.
If I thought you seriously believed we’d ever rejoin (as opposed to you just being provocative) I’d invest the time in showing why it’s off the table. But you don’t.
Do all that and he will feel a lasting political benefit. But its a start and if he gets similarly practical on the pay disputes, etc, then who knows.
In terms of tidying up the issues with pets plants and parcels, this deal is not a bad deal, if I was an MP I would vote for it.
In terms of ECJ still being final arbiter over a bit of UK, it’s no change at all, that’s already the case, so no reason not got take the tidy up improvement without actually losing anything on point of principle.
BECAUSE There’s caveats here to the Stormount Break mechanism, the the 30 assembly members needed to trigger the clause, which then merely goes to UK parliament and courts and ultimately EU to decide on the legalise of ‘exceptional circumstances’ justifying to have break.
Today is a key moment in UK politics, for the signal it sends imminent incoming Labour government and other silent remainers - having two stabs at it, the Tories still accept ECJ having the final say. This can be extended. And extended. And extended. salami tactics.
One of the big EU wins in this negotiation is it’s written in the agreement that th Truss Bill, a planned law to override some post-Brexit trade rules, gets binned.
But a market union with single customs... All that would be needed is a suitable name. If Brussels could swallow calling it the Waterloo Concession, even the Spectator's top commentator might get on board.
Thanks his predecessors for their role in achieving this deal.
Much hilarity.
You can argue the drawbacks outweigh the benefits, but to pretend there aren't any benefits is silly.
We’ll keep on getting closer alignment.
To quote a Leaver friend is today closer to our EU membership than yesterday?
Indeed it is astonishing just how awful it was
It's always easier to make a deal, reach an agreement or achieve a compromise when both sides want it and indeed need it to happen. Some on here are talking about the UK "winning" as though this was a battle of wills but in truth I suspect the atmosphere in which the negotiations occurred was far more conducive than was the case in preceding years.
That's not to underestimate the work that has gone on, largely unannounced, behind the scenes and it's the UK and EU officials who deserve most of the credit. I'm sure both the UK and EU have compromised on issues and that's the point of negotiation.
I also suspect both sides saw the truth of the complex situation in which they found themselves and used pragmatic compromise allied with technological advances to achieve a deal which satisfies both and indeed makes life easier for all including the people and businesses of Northern Ireland.
It's a deal to be welcomed but not as though we've won a war or a test match - this is practical Government business accomplished by pragmatic individuals on both sides. I think it plays to the Prime MInister's personal strengths in terms of detail nd he deserves credit for it s does Ursula van Leyen and the EU because it does take two to tango.
What people like you forget is that the EU hasn’t been frozen and won’t remain frozen. As the years pass by, integration into the single market will get harder and harder, and more and more disruptive.
http://qpol.qub.ac.uk/the-problem-with-petitions-of-concern/
You may not care but that’s a solid benefit to those who do.
https://twitter.com/christopherhope
You mean the one the UK used to have !
See also digital and data standards.
Physical products? Very little difference.
“We have now taken back control”
Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears;
I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him.
The evil that men do lives after them;
Pre Windsor, ECJ final arbitrator and border in Irish Sea - post Windsor ECJ final arbitrator and border in Irish Sea. Nothing has changed in terms of the points of principle.
Except. Firstly, It does tidy up where issues with the previous agreement have been flagged up and accepted. This is mainly around movement of pets plants and parcels.
Secondly - and this is probably the point of most contention - the EU have it written in the agreement that the Truss Bill, a planned law to override some post-Brexit trade rules, gets binned. So as a DUP or ERG you have to be really sure Windsor Deal does tidy up your own issues with this, before binning that legislation taking you backwards on that approach.
A pity for Rishi.
It's a weak line.
"EXCLUSIVE. Approval ratings for SNP contenders from latest @Panelbase poll of voters in Scotland. Forbes: +14. Regan: +3. Yousaf: minus 16." https://twitter.com/SundayTimesSco/status/1629792244109651968
So to sum up the options we have:
Yousaf: Not at all politically savy. Widely disliked. Extremely long list of screwups. Broadly capable of keeping the SNP in its' current left wing authoritarian position and not fracturing the party too much.
Forbes: Popular with the public, and broadly in-line with the Scottish public despite being significantly more religious on some aspects. Completely at odds with its' recent activist and active support base. Would fracture the party.
Regan: Nobody knows her. Wants to air Sturgeon's dirty laundry. Indy nutter. Also unlikely to keep the party together.
If we assume Yousaf won't win because of him being the last choice for the other two's voters, where does this create opportunities in the next GE? Will SGreens start standing against the SNP? If so a major SLAB recovery in Glasgow is likely. Secondly, how tactical will SIndy voters be? If there's a major left and right wing Independence party, will Unionists or the Leavers be more likely to vote tactically?
Feels like once again there'll be a lot of betting value in Scotland for people who read polls not vibes.
Johnson and Frost were utter charlatans.
Even Sunak can tell the Commons about the advantage NI gets from being at least partly inside the single market, without any sense of awareness or shame.
But you know that. You’re just being provocative and, foolishly, I’m being provoked.
The second upside is restricting lower skilled migration. We have already cut out the lowest skill work migration, as you now need to earn 26k to move here. Of course, that is not far enough as 26k is too low a limit, and family migration remains exploited by arranged marriages bringing over uneducated spouses from rural Asia and Africa.
It’s terrifying to consider how many billions of pounds of damage he caused.
However that's potentially the EU issue seen off for the next while, as well as a well timed intervention on womens' rights being the straw that broke the Sturgeon's back in the space of a few weeks. The politics of March will be taking place in a vastly different environment to December's.
As for skilled immigration, the end of your paragraph is more accurate than the beginning.
But I do agree with you on Rejoin. This kills it as an issue for the next decade, I think. At some stage, though, wider, palpable Brexit wins will be necessary if demographics isn't going to do its thing.
But it's only a bit of a shame. For the rest of us, it doesn't do much about the discontents of this Brexit. It won't, for example, make it easier to get tomatoes on our supermarket shelves.
For all this is a good day, we still have a very hard Brexit which Rishi has gone along with all along.
It's good that the UK is no longer doing a damnfool thing in a damnfool way. But doing a damnfool thing in a sensible way is only a limited improvement.
May’s simply booted certain arrangements into the longer term to avoid pain in the short term.
In some ways, it was a “hard” version of “Norway for now”.
What, precisely, did the UK do with Boris’s supposed additional sovereignty? It cost billions and billions in lost growth.
Like the garden bridge.
BoZo island.
The bridge to Ireland.
Unlike the postman, he can't deliver...
As for immigration, the limit on work migration to being 26k+ is unarguable.
https://www.breakingnews.ie/business/fruit-and-vegetable-shortage-due-to-poor-weather-in-spain-irish-retailers-say-1436373.html