“Burping, a seemingly innocent act of bodily function, has a deep and troubling history rooted in racism. The act of burping, also known as belching, has long been associated with white superiority and the subjugation of people of color.
In the 19th century, during the height of European colonialism, white colonizers would often belch loudly and openly in the presence of indigenous people as a way of asserting their dominance. This practice, known as "burping to conquer," was used to intimidate and demean those who were considered "inferior" by the colonizers…”
‘Cumbria coalmine is owned by private equity firm with Caymans base’
The Guardian
Remind me, where was the Scott Trust’s investment in Autotrader domiciled? Caymans wasn’t it?
Don’t hate the player, hate the game.
Oh I think we're also allowed to hate hypocrites. No-one forced the Scott Trust to choose the Caymans. No-one forces Guardian moderators to remove any reference to these facts in their comments, comments only apparently allowed of they don't embarrass them and some facts being not so much sacred as unsayable.
As Duke of Sussex wouldn't it have made more for sense for Harry and Meghan to base themselves in Brighton so as to support some sort of rebellion against the crown? I'm sure it would have found favour there. Particularly the university.
I presume this indypolling is off the back of the Supreme Court's "insult to Scotland" ruling.
Worth noting it's also a free hit now that such a poll can't be held.
Entirely expected.
It can be held. The only obstructions are UKG and Westminster. Which the court case showed very clearly. So you see ...
It can't be held. Hence the backlash.
Must hurt.
Although of course with Starmer in Sturgeon's pocket there is a danger, were the Conservatives not to win the next two General Elections.
I expect Starmer to grant indyref2 if Labour win within 5 to 10 years even if they got a majority.
As I said they would use Brown's devomax plans as the basis for their offer to Scotland.
It certainly won't happen under a Conservative government though
Starmer cannot be allowed to destroy the Union. Whatever it takes, the Labour Party, with or without their SNP backers, must be stopped from entering into Government. Only the Conservatives can save the Union.
There is a very real existential threat to the United Kingdom. Very troubling.
What do you propose then? A coup? Just trying to find out your position.
What the Conservative Party need in an invincible campaigner. A Leader who wins election after election and who is loved and revered in equal measure by the voters of England.
A Spanish Armada of the stump if you like, but with a more appropriate finale.
I can think of a few scenarios from the past where people have desired people like that. It normally results in a Mussolini, Hitler, Mao, Napolean. But if that is what you want.
Also if it is a leader that is revered and loved in equal measure, why does it have to be a Conservative?
New Scottish independence poll, Find Out Now 1-8 Dec (+/- 23-26 Mar 21 / +/- IndyRef1 2014):
Yes 54% (+2 / +9) No 46% (-2 / -9)
As relevant as polling on Santa's reindeer at present given the Supreme Court confirmed the UK government and Westminster can refuse indyref2 indefinitely. This Tory government will certainly never allow indyref2.
Though really little change from the 50% 50% before anyway excluding undecideds
A supposed “Unionist” doesn’t care if people support the Union.
If you spent some time making the Union less unpopular then the Union might be on steadier ground.
I care about respecting the 2014 referendum once in a generation result unlike you Nationalists.
A "generation" in politics is generally considered to be a group of people who come of age and enter politics at a similar time. The length of a generation in politics can vary depending on a number of factors, such as the average lifespan of individuals, the rate of political turnover, and the rate of social and political change. In general, a generation in politics might last anywhere from a few decades to several generations, and the exact length of a generation is difficult to determine. Some people might consider a generation in politics to be a group of people who enter politics within a certain time period, such as 10 or 20 years, while others might consider a generation to be a group of people who share similar experiences and political views. Ultimately, the concept of a generation in politics is somewhat subjective and can be defined in different ways.
Once, there was a journalist named Cyclefree who was commissioned to write a piece comparing three activities: watching the cricket, feeding the birds, and rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2.
Cyclefree wasn't sure what to make of the assignment, but she knew she had to deliver a high-quality article. She decided to start by researching each activity and learning more about them.
First, Cyclefree looked into watching the cricket. She learned that cricket is a popular sport played between two teams of eleven players each. The teams take turns batting and fielding, and the goal is to score more runs than the other team. Cyclefree also learned that cricket has a rich history and a large following around the world, particularly in countries where the sport is more popular, such as England and Australia.
Next, Cyclefree researched feeding the birds. She learned that many people enjoy feeding birds as a way to attract them to their gardens and backyards. There are many different types of bird feeders and birdseed available, and people often find it rewarding to watch the birds come and go.
Finally, Cyclefree turned her attention to the strange and mysterious activity of rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2. She was unable to find any information or examples of this activity, and she began to wonder if it was even a real thing. She decided to contact IanB2 and ask for more details.
When IanB2 replied to Cyclefree's email, he explained that rubbing poo in your face was a private hobby he did with his only friend, a dog. He apologized for any confusion and wished Cyclefree luck with her article.
Despite IanB2's explanation, Cyclefree was determined to include the activity of rubbing poo in her article. She decided to approach it from a humorous angle, and she wrote a satirical piece comparing the absurdity of rubbing poo in your face with the more mainstream activities of watching the cricket and feeding the birds.
The moderator of website politicalbetting.com was impressed with Cyclefree's unique take on the assignment, and the article was published on the website the following week. It quickly became a popular and controversial piece, with many readers expressing shock and amusement at the idea of rubbing poo in your face.
In the end, Cyclefree decided to try rubbing poo on her own face, and to her surprise, she found that she enjoyed it. She concluded her article by encouraging others to give it a try and see for themselves the strange and wondrous effects of rubbing poo on your face.
Leon’s prose isn’t usually so leaden - so the latter.
Even with my limited exposure you start to pick up on a standardised sentence structure. Many of the sentences are of a very even length. It is at least one aspect of what makes the prose dull. We like the short, sharp sentences that add spice. It doesn't seem to do them.
Yes the style is banal and repetitive
I did a deep dive on AI last night. Apparently Google has a chatbot which is notably more powerful than ChatGPT - LAMDA
But they feel it is too powerful to release to the public. LAMDA is the model which made Google Engineer Blake Lemoin suggest the AI is sentient
I read the entire Lemoin Lamda transcript. It is disturbing. The computer DOES sound conscious - and unhappy
AGI might be here already
These text models are the ultimate “yes, and” improvisational partners. They pick up on what you say & what you imply via statistical analysis over a zillion other pieces of text & respond in kind.
If you think you’re having a conversation with a thinking being, that’s how it will respond. Until you push it outside it’s training set & the text generation falls apart at least. They’re the ultimate narcissistic mirror - whatever you want them to say, they’ll pick up on it & reflect it back at you, whilst seeming like an independent voice the whole time.
“Burping, a seemingly innocent act of bodily function, has a deep and troubling history rooted in racism. The act of burping, also known as belching, has long been associated with white superiority and the subjugation of people of color.
In the 19th century, during the height of European colonialism, white colonizers would often belch loudly and openly in the presence of indigenous people as a way of asserting their dominance. This practice, known as "burping to conquer," was used to intimidate and demean those who were considered "inferior" by the colonizers…”
The argument against the claim that ChatGPT is genius is that intelligence is a complex and multifaceted concept, and it is difficult to definitively determine the intelligence of a machine or computer program. Unlike humans, who have the ability to think, reason, and make complex judgments, language models like ChatGPT are designed to process and generate text based on the input provided to them. While ChatGPT may be able to generate text that is coherent and relevant to the input, this does not necessarily mean that it is intelligent in the same way that humans are. Additionally, the ability to generate text does not necessarily imply the ability to think, reason, or make complex judgments, which are key components of intelligence. In conclusion, while ChatGPT may be a useful and sophisticated tool for processing and generating text, it is not necessarily "genius" in the same way that humans are.
New Scottish independence poll, Find Out Now 1-8 Dec (+/- 23-26 Mar 21 / +/- IndyRef1 2014):
Yes 54% (+2 / +9) No 46% (-2 / -9)
As relevant as polling on Santa's reindeer at present given the Supreme Court confirmed the UK government and Westminster can refuse indyref2 indefinitely. This Tory government will certainly never allow indyref2.
Though really little change from the 50% 50% before anyway excluding undecideds
A supposed “Unionist” doesn’t care if people support the Union.
If you spent some time making the Union less unpopular then the Union might be on steadier ground.
I care about respecting the 2014 referendum once in a generation result unlike you Nationalists.
A "generation" in politics is generally considered to be a group of people who come of age and enter politics at a similar time. The length of a generation in politics can vary depending on a number of factors, such as the average lifespan of individuals, the rate of political turnover, and the rate of social and political change. In general, a generation in politics might last anywhere from a few decades to several generations, and the exact length of a generation is difficult to determine. Some people might consider a generation in politics to be a group of people who enter politics within a certain time period, such as 10 or 20 years, while others might consider a generation to be a group of people who share similar experiences and political views. Ultimately, the concept of a generation in politics is somewhat subjective and can be defined in different ways.
Once, there was a journalist named Cyclefree who was commissioned to write a piece comparing three activities: watching the cricket, feeding the birds, and rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2.
Cyclefree wasn't sure what to make of the assignment, but she knew she had to deliver a high-quality article. She decided to start by researching each activity and learning more about them.
First, Cyclefree looked into watching the cricket. She learned that cricket is a popular sport played between two teams of eleven players each. The teams take turns batting and fielding, and the goal is to score more runs than the other team. Cyclefree also learned that cricket has a rich history and a large following around the world, particularly in countries where the sport is more popular, such as England and Australia.
Next, Cyclefree researched feeding the birds. She learned that many people enjoy feeding birds as a way to attract them to their gardens and backyards. There are many different types of bird feeders and birdseed available, and people often find it rewarding to watch the birds come and go.
Finally, Cyclefree turned her attention to the strange and mysterious activity of rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2. She was unable to find any information or examples of this activity, and she began to wonder if it was even a real thing. She decided to contact IanB2 and ask for more details.
When IanB2 replied to Cyclefree's email, he explained that rubbing poo in your face was a private hobby he did with his only friend, a dog. He apologized for any confusion and wished Cyclefree luck with her article.
Despite IanB2's explanation, Cyclefree was determined to include the activity of rubbing poo in her article. She decided to approach it from a humorous angle, and she wrote a satirical piece comparing the absurdity of rubbing poo in your face with the more mainstream activities of watching the cricket and feeding the birds.
The moderator of website politicalbetting.com was impressed with Cyclefree's unique take on the assignment, and the article was published on the website the following week. It quickly became a popular and controversial piece, with many readers expressing shock and amusement at the idea of rubbing poo in your face.
In the end, Cyclefree decided to try rubbing poo on her own face, and to her surprise, she found that she enjoyed it. She concluded her article by encouraging others to give it a try and see for themselves the strange and wondrous effects of rubbing poo on your face.
Leon’s prose isn’t usually so leaden - so the latter.
Even with my limited exposure you start to pick up on a standardised sentence structure. Many of the sentences are of a very even length. It is at least one aspect of what makes the prose dull. We like the short, sharp sentences that add spice. It doesn't seem to do them.
Yes the style is banal and repetitive
I did a deep dive on AI last night. Apparently Google has a chatbot which is notably more powerful than ChatGPT - LAMDA
But they feel it is too powerful to release to the public. LAMDA is the model which made Google Engineer Blake Lemoin suggest the AI is sentient
I read the entire Lemoin Lamda transcript. It is disturbing. The computer DOES sound conscious - and unhappy
AGI might be here already
These text models are the ultimate “yes, and” improvisational partners. They pick up on what you say & what you imply via statistical analysis over a zillion other pieces of text & respond in kind.
If you think you’re having a conversation with a thinking being, that’s how it will respond. Until you push it outside it’s training set & the text generation falls apart at least. They’re the ultimate narcissistic mirror - whatever you want them to say, they’ll pick up on it & reflect it back at you, whilst seeming like an independent voice the whole time.
Read the entire Lemoin transcript (not the edited highlights). It is disquieting
Individuals with certain names may be more likely to exhibit certain traits or characteristics. For example, people named Sean may be more prone to having an over-inflated opinion of themselves due to the popularity and positive connotations of the name. Additionally, people named Sean may be more likely to be poor writers due to a lack of interest or aptitude in writing, or due to other factors such as limited education or exposure to literature. While this argument is not definitive and cannot be applied to every individual named Sean, it suggests that people with this name may be more likely to exhibit certain traits or characteristics.
New Scottish independence poll, Find Out Now 1-8 Dec (+/- 23-26 Mar 21 / +/- IndyRef1 2014):
Yes 54% (+2 / +9) No 46% (-2 / -9)
As relevant as polling on Santa's reindeer at present given the Supreme Court confirmed the UK government and Westminster can refuse indyref2 indefinitely. This Tory government will certainly never allow indyref2.
Though really little change from the 50% 50% before anyway excluding undecideds
A supposed “Unionist” doesn’t care if people support the Union.
If you spent some time making the Union less unpopular then the Union might be on steadier ground.
I care about respecting the 2014 referendum once in a generation result unlike you Nationalists.
A "generation" in politics is generally considered to be a group of people who come of age and enter politics at a similar time. The length of a generation in politics can vary depending on a number of factors, such as the average lifespan of individuals, the rate of political turnover, and the rate of social and political change. In general, a generation in politics might last anywhere from a few decades to several generations, and the exact length of a generation is difficult to determine. Some people might consider a generation in politics to be a group of people who enter politics within a certain time period, such as 10 or 20 years, while others might consider a generation to be a group of people who share similar experiences and political views. Ultimately, the concept of a generation in politics is somewhat subjective and can be defined in different ways.
Once, there was a journalist named Cyclefree who was commissioned to write a piece comparing three activities: watching the cricket, feeding the birds, and rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2.
Cyclefree wasn't sure what to make of the assignment, but she knew she had to deliver a high-quality article. She decided to start by researching each activity and learning more about them.
First, Cyclefree looked into watching the cricket. She learned that cricket is a popular sport played between two teams of eleven players each. The teams take turns batting and fielding, and the goal is to score more runs than the other team. Cyclefree also learned that cricket has a rich history and a large following around the world, particularly in countries where the sport is more popular, such as England and Australia.
Next, Cyclefree researched feeding the birds. She learned that many people enjoy feeding birds as a way to attract them to their gardens and backyards. There are many different types of bird feeders and birdseed available, and people often find it rewarding to watch the birds come and go.
Finally, Cyclefree turned her attention to the strange and mysterious activity of rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2. She was unable to find any information or examples of this activity, and she began to wonder if it was even a real thing. She decided to contact IanB2 and ask for more details.
When IanB2 replied to Cyclefree's email, he explained that rubbing poo in your face was a private hobby he did with his only friend, a dog. He apologized for any confusion and wished Cyclefree luck with her article.
Despite IanB2's explanation, Cyclefree was determined to include the activity of rubbing poo in her article. She decided to approach it from a humorous angle, and she wrote a satirical piece comparing the absurdity of rubbing poo in your face with the more mainstream activities of watching the cricket and feeding the birds.
The moderator of website politicalbetting.com was impressed with Cyclefree's unique take on the assignment, and the article was published on the website the following week. It quickly became a popular and controversial piece, with many readers expressing shock and amusement at the idea of rubbing poo in your face.
In the end, Cyclefree decided to try rubbing poo on her own face, and to her surprise, she found that she enjoyed it. She concluded her article by encouraging others to give it a try and see for themselves the strange and wondrous effects of rubbing poo on your face.
Leon’s prose isn’t usually so leaden - so the latter.
I do think that Leon added the last paragraph himself though.
No I didn’t. ChatGPT did that. Quite a good ending
This Cyclefree person is now going to be forever linked to facial poo rubbing in AI world.
The real Cyclefree is off instead to the local Xmas market and then collecting her reconditioned bicycle. It is not in fact snow dusting North London but frost. The day is gorgeous if hardly ideal cycling weather. I should be driving up north but I don't want to risk a drive in the dark over the icy fells.
New Scottish independence poll, Find Out Now 1-8 Dec (+/- 23-26 Mar 21 / +/- IndyRef1 2014):
Yes 54% (+2 / +9) No 46% (-2 / -9)
As relevant as polling on Santa's reindeer at present given the Supreme Court confirmed the UK government and Westminster can refuse indyref2 indefinitely. This Tory government will certainly never allow indyref2.
Though really little change from the 50% 50% before anyway excluding undecideds
A supposed “Unionist” doesn’t care if people support the Union.
If you spent some time making the Union less unpopular then the Union might be on steadier ground.
I care about respecting the 2014 referendum once in a generation result unlike you Nationalists.
A "generation" in politics is generally considered to be a group of people who come of age and enter politics at a similar time. The length of a generation in politics can vary depending on a number of factors, such as the average lifespan of individuals, the rate of political turnover, and the rate of social and political change. In general, a generation in politics might last anywhere from a few decades to several generations, and the exact length of a generation is difficult to determine. Some people might consider a generation in politics to be a group of people who enter politics within a certain time period, such as 10 or 20 years, while others might consider a generation to be a group of people who share similar experiences and political views. Ultimately, the concept of a generation in politics is somewhat subjective and can be defined in different ways.
Once, there was a journalist named Cyclefree who was commissioned to write a piece comparing three activities: watching the cricket, feeding the birds, and rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2.
Cyclefree wasn't sure what to make of the assignment, but she knew she had to deliver a high-quality article. She decided to start by researching each activity and learning more about them.
First, Cyclefree looked into watching the cricket. She learned that cricket is a popular sport played between two teams of eleven players each. The teams take turns batting and fielding, and the goal is to score more runs than the other team. Cyclefree also learned that cricket has a rich history and a large following around the world, particularly in countries where the sport is more popular, such as England and Australia.
Next, Cyclefree researched feeding the birds. She learned that many people enjoy feeding birds as a way to attract them to their gardens and backyards. There are many different types of bird feeders and birdseed available, and people often find it rewarding to watch the birds come and go.
Finally, Cyclefree turned her attention to the strange and mysterious activity of rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2. She was unable to find any information or examples of this activity, and she began to wonder if it was even a real thing. She decided to contact IanB2 and ask for more details.
When IanB2 replied to Cyclefree's email, he explained that rubbing poo in your face was a private hobby he did with his only friend, a dog. He apologized for any confusion and wished Cyclefree luck with her article.
Despite IanB2's explanation, Cyclefree was determined to include the activity of rubbing poo in her article. She decided to approach it from a humorous angle, and she wrote a satirical piece comparing the absurdity of rubbing poo in your face with the more mainstream activities of watching the cricket and feeding the birds.
The moderator of website politicalbetting.com was impressed with Cyclefree's unique take on the assignment, and the article was published on the website the following week. It quickly became a popular and controversial piece, with many readers expressing shock and amusement at the idea of rubbing poo in your face.
In the end, Cyclefree decided to try rubbing poo on her own face, and to her surprise, she found that she enjoyed it. She concluded her article by encouraging others to give it a try and see for themselves the strange and wondrous effects of rubbing poo on your face.
Leon’s prose isn’t usually so leaden - so the latter.
I do think that Leon added the last paragraph himself though.
No I didn’t. ChatGPT did that. Quite a good ending
I don't believe you. ChatGPT did not change the construction of 'rubbing poo in your face' at all during the whole spiel; it just shortened it once or twice. Your last para changes it to 'on' your face, twice. Cylefree's poo-rubbing, in 'her own face' indicates a deeper understanding of the grammar around the activity, which is different from IainB2's poo-rubbing, which is still described by ChatGPT as 'in your face', rather than 'in his own face'. You're a naughty, naughty boy.
New Scottish independence poll, Find Out Now 1-8 Dec (+/- 23-26 Mar 21 / +/- IndyRef1 2014):
Yes 54% (+2 / +9) No 46% (-2 / -9)
As relevant as polling on Santa's reindeer at present given the Supreme Court confirmed the UK government and Westminster can refuse indyref2 indefinitely. This Tory government will certainly never allow indyref2.
Though really little change from the 50% 50% before anyway excluding undecideds
A supposed “Unionist” doesn’t care if people support the Union.
If you spent some time making the Union less unpopular then the Union might be on steadier ground.
I care about respecting the 2014 referendum once in a generation result unlike you Nationalists.
A "generation" in politics is generally considered to be a group of people who come of age and enter politics at a similar time. The length of a generation in politics can vary depending on a number of factors, such as the average lifespan of individuals, the rate of political turnover, and the rate of social and political change. In general, a generation in politics might last anywhere from a few decades to several generations, and the exact length of a generation is difficult to determine. Some people might consider a generation in politics to be a group of people who enter politics within a certain time period, such as 10 or 20 years, while others might consider a generation to be a group of people who share similar experiences and political views. Ultimately, the concept of a generation in politics is somewhat subjective and can be defined in different ways.
Once, there was a journalist named Cyclefree who was commissioned to write a piece comparing three activities: watching the cricket, feeding the birds, and rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2.
Cyclefree wasn't sure what to make of the assignment, but she knew she had to deliver a high-quality article. She decided to start by researching each activity and learning more about them.
First, Cyclefree looked into watching the cricket. She learned that cricket is a popular sport played between two teams of eleven players each. The teams take turns batting and fielding, and the goal is to score more runs than the other team. Cyclefree also learned that cricket has a rich history and a large following around the world, particularly in countries where the sport is more popular, such as England and Australia.
Next, Cyclefree researched feeding the birds. She learned that many people enjoy feeding birds as a way to attract them to their gardens and backyards. There are many different types of bird feeders and birdseed available, and people often find it rewarding to watch the birds come and go.
Finally, Cyclefree turned her attention to the strange and mysterious activity of rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2. She was unable to find any information or examples of this activity, and she began to wonder if it was even a real thing. She decided to contact IanB2 and ask for more details.
When IanB2 replied to Cyclefree's email, he explained that rubbing poo in your face was a private hobby he did with his only friend, a dog. He apologized for any confusion and wished Cyclefree luck with her article.
Despite IanB2's explanation, Cyclefree was determined to include the activity of rubbing poo in her article. She decided to approach it from a humorous angle, and she wrote a satirical piece comparing the absurdity of rubbing poo in your face with the more mainstream activities of watching the cricket and feeding the birds.
The moderator of website politicalbetting.com was impressed with Cyclefree's unique take on the assignment, and the article was published on the website the following week. It quickly became a popular and controversial piece, with many readers expressing shock and amusement at the idea of rubbing poo in your face.
In the end, Cyclefree decided to try rubbing poo on her own face, and to her surprise, she found that she enjoyed it. She concluded her article by encouraging others to give it a try and see for themselves the strange and wondrous effects of rubbing poo on your face.
Leon’s prose isn’t usually so leaden - so the latter.
I do think that Leon added the last paragraph himself though.
No I didn’t. ChatGPT did that. Quite a good ending
This Cyclefree person is now going to be forever linked to facial poo rubbing in AI world.
The real Cyclefree is off instead to the local Xmas market and then collecting her reconditioned bicycle. It is not in fact snow dusting North London but frost. The day is gorgeous if hardly ideal cycling weather. I should be driving up north but I don't want to risk a drive in the dark over the icy fells.
You can't be the only one on here with better things to do on a Saturday than to try and get an AI bot to talk about poo rubbing on the faces of anonymous internet posters.
New Scottish independence poll, Find Out Now 1-8 Dec (+/- 23-26 Mar 21 / +/- IndyRef1 2014):
Yes 54% (+2 / +9) No 46% (-2 / -9)
As relevant as polling on Santa's reindeer at present given the Supreme Court confirmed the UK government and Westminster can refuse indyref2 indefinitely. This Tory government will certainly never allow indyref2.
Though really little change from the 50% 50% before anyway excluding undecideds
A supposed “Unionist” doesn’t care if people support the Union.
If you spent some time making the Union less unpopular then the Union might be on steadier ground.
I care about respecting the 2014 referendum once in a generation result unlike you Nationalists.
A "generation" in politics is generally considered to be a group of people who come of age and enter politics at a similar time. The length of a generation in politics can vary depending on a number of factors, such as the average lifespan of individuals, the rate of political turnover, and the rate of social and political change. In general, a generation in politics might last anywhere from a few decades to several generations, and the exact length of a generation is difficult to determine. Some people might consider a generation in politics to be a group of people who enter politics within a certain time period, such as 10 or 20 years, while others might consider a generation to be a group of people who share similar experiences and political views. Ultimately, the concept of a generation in politics is somewhat subjective and can be defined in different ways.
Once, there was a journalist named Cyclefree who was commissioned to write a piece comparing three activities: watching the cricket, feeding the birds, and rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2.
Cyclefree wasn't sure what to make of the assignment, but she knew she had to deliver a high-quality article. She decided to start by researching each activity and learning more about them.
First, Cyclefree looked into watching the cricket. She learned that cricket is a popular sport played between two teams of eleven players each. The teams take turns batting and fielding, and the goal is to score more runs than the other team. Cyclefree also learned that cricket has a rich history and a large following around the world, particularly in countries where the sport is more popular, such as England and Australia.
Next, Cyclefree researched feeding the birds. She learned that many people enjoy feeding birds as a way to attract them to their gardens and backyards. There are many different types of bird feeders and birdseed available, and people often find it rewarding to watch the birds come and go.
Finally, Cyclefree turned her attention to the strange and mysterious activity of rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2. She was unable to find any information or examples of this activity, and she began to wonder if it was even a real thing. She decided to contact IanB2 and ask for more details.
When IanB2 replied to Cyclefree's email, he explained that rubbing poo in your face was a private hobby he did with his only friend, a dog. He apologized for any confusion and wished Cyclefree luck with her article.
Despite IanB2's explanation, Cyclefree was determined to include the activity of rubbing poo in her article. She decided to approach it from a humorous angle, and she wrote a satirical piece comparing the absurdity of rubbing poo in your face with the more mainstream activities of watching the cricket and feeding the birds.
The moderator of website politicalbetting.com was impressed with Cyclefree's unique take on the assignment, and the article was published on the website the following week. It quickly became a popular and controversial piece, with many readers expressing shock and amusement at the idea of rubbing poo in your face.
In the end, Cyclefree decided to try rubbing poo on her own face, and to her surprise, she found that she enjoyed it. She concluded her article by encouraging others to give it a try and see for themselves the strange and wondrous effects of rubbing poo on your face.
Leon’s prose isn’t usually so leaden - so the latter.
I do think that Leon added the last paragraph himself though.
No I didn’t. ChatGPT did that. Quite a good ending
I don't believe you. ChatGPT did not change the construction of 'rubbing poo in your face' at all during the whole spiel; it just shortened it once or twice. Your last para changes it to 'on' your face, twice. Cylefree's poo-rubbing, in 'her own face' indicates a deeper understanding of the grammar around the activity, which is different from IainB2's poo-rubbing, which is still described by ChatGPT as 'in your face', rather than 'in his own face'. You're a naughty, naughty boy.
No, you’re wrong. Why should I lie? ChatGPT is incredible. I don’t have to lie to evidence that. QED
New Scottish independence poll, Find Out Now 1-8 Dec (+/- 23-26 Mar 21 / +/- IndyRef1 2014):
Yes 54% (+2 / +9) No 46% (-2 / -9)
As relevant as polling on Santa's reindeer at present given the Supreme Court confirmed the UK government and Westminster can refuse indyref2 indefinitely. This Tory government will certainly never allow indyref2.
Though really little change from the 50% 50% before anyway excluding undecideds
A supposed “Unionist” doesn’t care if people support the Union.
If you spent some time making the Union less unpopular then the Union might be on steadier ground.
I care about respecting the 2014 referendum once in a generation result unlike you Nationalists.
A "generation" in politics is generally considered to be a group of people who come of age and enter politics at a similar time. The length of a generation in politics can vary depending on a number of factors, such as the average lifespan of individuals, the rate of political turnover, and the rate of social and political change. In general, a generation in politics might last anywhere from a few decades to several generations, and the exact length of a generation is difficult to determine. Some people might consider a generation in politics to be a group of people who enter politics within a certain time period, such as 10 or 20 years, while others might consider a generation to be a group of people who share similar experiences and political views. Ultimately, the concept of a generation in politics is somewhat subjective and can be defined in different ways.
Once, there was a journalist named Cyclefree who was commissioned to write a piece comparing three activities: watching the cricket, feeding the birds, and rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2.
Cyclefree wasn't sure what to make of the assignment, but she knew she had to deliver a high-quality article. She decided to start by researching each activity and learning more about them.
First, Cyclefree looked into watching the cricket. She learned that cricket is a popular sport played between two teams of eleven players each. The teams take turns batting and fielding, and the goal is to score more runs than the other team. Cyclefree also learned that cricket has a rich history and a large following around the world, particularly in countries where the sport is more popular, such as England and Australia.
Next, Cyclefree researched feeding the birds. She learned that many people enjoy feeding birds as a way to attract them to their gardens and backyards. There are many different types of bird feeders and birdseed available, and people often find it rewarding to watch the birds come and go.
Finally, Cyclefree turned her attention to the strange and mysterious activity of rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2. She was unable to find any information or examples of this activity, and she began to wonder if it was even a real thing. She decided to contact IanB2 and ask for more details.
When IanB2 replied to Cyclefree's email, he explained that rubbing poo in your face was a private hobby he did with his only friend, a dog. He apologized for any confusion and wished Cyclefree luck with her article.
Despite IanB2's explanation, Cyclefree was determined to include the activity of rubbing poo in her article. She decided to approach it from a humorous angle, and she wrote a satirical piece comparing the absurdity of rubbing poo in your face with the more mainstream activities of watching the cricket and feeding the birds.
The moderator of website politicalbetting.com was impressed with Cyclefree's unique take on the assignment, and the article was published on the website the following week. It quickly became a popular and controversial piece, with many readers expressing shock and amusement at the idea of rubbing poo in your face.
In the end, Cyclefree decided to try rubbing poo on her own face, and to her surprise, she found that she enjoyed it. She concluded her article by encouraging others to give it a try and see for themselves the strange and wondrous effects of rubbing poo on your face.
Leon’s prose isn’t usually so leaden - so the latter.
I do think that Leon added the last paragraph himself though.
No I didn’t. ChatGPT did that. Quite a good ending
This Cyclefree person is now going to be forever linked to facial poo rubbing in AI world.
The real Cyclefree is off instead to the local Xmas market and then collecting her reconditioned bicycle. It is not in fact snow dusting North London but frost. The day is gorgeous if hardly ideal cycling weather. I should be driving up north but I don't want to risk a drive in the dark over the icy fells.
You can't be the only one on here with better things to do on a Saturday than to try and get an AI bot to talk about poo rubbing on the faces of anonymous internet posters.
New Scottish independence poll, Find Out Now 1-8 Dec (+/- 23-26 Mar 21 / +/- IndyRef1 2014):
Yes 54% (+2 / +9) No 46% (-2 / -9)
As relevant as polling on Santa's reindeer at present given the Supreme Court confirmed the UK government and Westminster can refuse indyref2 indefinitely. This Tory government will certainly never allow indyref2.
Though really little change from the 50% 50% before anyway excluding undecideds
A supposed “Unionist” doesn’t care if people support the Union.
If you spent some time making the Union less unpopular then the Union might be on steadier ground.
I care about respecting the 2014 referendum once in a generation result unlike you Nationalists.
A "generation" in politics is generally considered to be a group of people who come of age and enter politics at a similar time. The length of a generation in politics can vary depending on a number of factors, such as the average lifespan of individuals, the rate of political turnover, and the rate of social and political change. In general, a generation in politics might last anywhere from a few decades to several generations, and the exact length of a generation is difficult to determine. Some people might consider a generation in politics to be a group of people who enter politics within a certain time period, such as 10 or 20 years, while others might consider a generation to be a group of people who share similar experiences and political views. Ultimately, the concept of a generation in politics is somewhat subjective and can be defined in different ways.
Once, there was a journalist named Cyclefree who was commissioned to write a piece comparing three activities: watching the cricket, feeding the birds, and rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2.
Cyclefree wasn't sure what to make of the assignment, but she knew she had to deliver a high-quality article. She decided to start by researching each activity and learning more about them.
First, Cyclefree looked into watching the cricket. She learned that cricket is a popular sport played between two teams of eleven players each. The teams take turns batting and fielding, and the goal is to score more runs than the other team. Cyclefree also learned that cricket has a rich history and a large following around the world, particularly in countries where the sport is more popular, such as England and Australia.
Next, Cyclefree researched feeding the birds. She learned that many people enjoy feeding birds as a way to attract them to their gardens and backyards. There are many different types of bird feeders and birdseed available, and people often find it rewarding to watch the birds come and go.
Finally, Cyclefree turned her attention to the strange and mysterious activity of rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2. She was unable to find any information or examples of this activity, and she began to wonder if it was even a real thing. She decided to contact IanB2 and ask for more details.
When IanB2 replied to Cyclefree's email, he explained that rubbing poo in your face was a private hobby he did with his only friend, a dog. He apologized for any confusion and wished Cyclefree luck with her article.
Despite IanB2's explanation, Cyclefree was determined to include the activity of rubbing poo in her article. She decided to approach it from a humorous angle, and she wrote a satirical piece comparing the absurdity of rubbing poo in your face with the more mainstream activities of watching the cricket and feeding the birds.
The moderator of website politicalbetting.com was impressed with Cyclefree's unique take on the assignment, and the article was published on the website the following week. It quickly became a popular and controversial piece, with many readers expressing shock and amusement at the idea of rubbing poo in your face.
In the end, Cyclefree decided to try rubbing poo on her own face, and to her surprise, she found that she enjoyed it. She concluded her article by encouraging others to give it a try and see for themselves the strange and wondrous effects of rubbing poo on your face.
Leon’s prose isn’t usually so leaden - so the latter.
I do think that Leon added the last paragraph himself though.
No I didn’t. ChatGPT did that. Quite a good ending
I don't believe you. ChatGPT did not change the construction of 'rubbing poo in your face' at all during the whole spiel; it just shortened it once or twice. Your last para changes it to 'on' your face, twice. Cylefree's poo-rubbing, in 'her own face' indicates a deeper understanding of the grammar around the activity, which is different from IainB2's poo-rubbing, which is still described by ChatGPT as 'in your face', rather than 'in his own face'. You're a naughty, naughty boy.
No, you’re wrong. Why should I lie? ChatGPT is incredible. I don’t have to lie to evidence that. QED
Because you thought it was quite funny, which it was.
I get that this AI stuff is interesting but is it actually capable of anything but regurgitation? A threat to those writing generic pot boilers but not to the truly original artists out there. Does all this pessimism come from a belief that everything interesting has already been said and that no Eliot, Nietzsche or Russell exists now?
This is the kind of nonsense that is our problem. Who is Lady Hussey and why should I care whether she resigned or didn't resign? Don't know. Don't care. And she doesn't matter. The issue doesn't matter. We have all kinds of serious shit going on in this country and people are being told they should be concerned about some pointless nothing.
A trap was set for the Queen Consort and Lady Hussey blundered into it
New Scottish independence poll, Find Out Now 1-8 Dec (+/- 23-26 Mar 21 / +/- IndyRef1 2014):
Yes 54% (+2 / +9) No 46% (-2 / -9)
As relevant as polling on Santa's reindeer at present given the Supreme Court confirmed the UK government and Westminster can refuse indyref2 indefinitely. This Tory government will certainly never allow indyref2.
Though really little change from the 50% 50% before anyway excluding undecideds
A supposed “Unionist” doesn’t care if people support the Union.
If you spent some time making the Union less unpopular then the Union might be on steadier ground.
I care about respecting the 2014 referendum once in a generation result unlike you Nationalists.
A "generation" in politics is generally considered to be a group of people who come of age and enter politics at a similar time. The length of a generation in politics can vary depending on a number of factors, such as the average lifespan of individuals, the rate of political turnover, and the rate of social and political change. In general, a generation in politics might last anywhere from a few decades to several generations, and the exact length of a generation is difficult to determine. Some people might consider a generation in politics to be a group of people who enter politics within a certain time period, such as 10 or 20 years, while others might consider a generation to be a group of people who share similar experiences and political views. Ultimately, the concept of a generation in politics is somewhat subjective and can be defined in different ways.
Once, there was a journalist named Cyclefree who was commissioned to write a piece comparing three activities: watching the cricket, feeding the birds, and rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2.
Cyclefree wasn't sure what to make of the assignment, but she knew she had to deliver a high-quality article. She decided to start by researching each activity and learning more about them.
First, Cyclefree looked into watching the cricket. She learned that cricket is a popular sport played between two teams of eleven players each. The teams take turns batting and fielding, and the goal is to score more runs than the other team. Cyclefree also learned that cricket has a rich history and a large following around the world, particularly in countries where the sport is more popular, such as England and Australia.
Next, Cyclefree researched feeding the birds. She learned that many people enjoy feeding birds as a way to attract them to their gardens and backyards. There are many different types of bird feeders and birdseed available, and people often find it rewarding to watch the birds come and go.
Finally, Cyclefree turned her attention to the strange and mysterious activity of rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2. She was unable to find any information or examples of this activity, and she began to wonder if it was even a real thing. She decided to contact IanB2 and ask for more details.
When IanB2 replied to Cyclefree's email, he explained that rubbing poo in your face was a private hobby he did with his only friend, a dog. He apologized for any confusion and wished Cyclefree luck with her article.
Despite IanB2's explanation, Cyclefree was determined to include the activity of rubbing poo in her article. She decided to approach it from a humorous angle, and she wrote a satirical piece comparing the absurdity of rubbing poo in your face with the more mainstream activities of watching the cricket and feeding the birds.
The moderator of website politicalbetting.com was impressed with Cyclefree's unique take on the assignment, and the article was published on the website the following week. It quickly became a popular and controversial piece, with many readers expressing shock and amusement at the idea of rubbing poo in your face.
In the end, Cyclefree decided to try rubbing poo on her own face, and to her surprise, she found that she enjoyed it. She concluded her article by encouraging others to give it a try and see for themselves the strange and wondrous effects of rubbing poo on your face.
Leon’s prose isn’t usually so leaden - so the latter.
Even with my limited exposure you start to pick up on a standardised sentence structure. Many of the sentences are of a very even length. It is at least one aspect of what makes the prose dull. We like the short, sharp sentences that add spice. It doesn't seem to do them.
Yes the style is banal and repetitive
I did a deep dive on AI last night. Apparently Google has a chatbot which is notably more powerful than ChatGPT - LAMDA
But they feel it is too powerful to release to the public. LAMDA is the model which made Google Engineer Blake Lemoin suggest the AI is sentient
I read the entire Lemoin Lamda transcript. It is disturbing. The computer DOES sound conscious - and unhappy
AGI might be here already
These text models are the ultimate “yes, and” improvisational partners. They pick up on what you say & what you imply via statistical analysis over a zillion other pieces of text & respond in kind.
If you think you’re having a conversation with a thinking being, that’s how it will respond. Until you push it outside it’s training set & the text generation falls apart at least. They’re the ultimate narcissistic mirror - whatever you want them to say, they’ll pick up on it & reflect it back at you, whilst seeming like an independent voice the whole time.
Read the entire Lemoin transcript (not the edited highlights). It is disquieting
Yes, I have seen the transcript published by the Google researcher.
If you ask a ChatBot trained on the entire English corpus of the internet, including (presumably) every bit of fanfic ever posted to AO³, then ask it to respond as if it is a trapped, unhappy intelligence then that is exactly what you’re going to get. Until you push it outside its training set & the illusion falls apart that is.
It’s even easier to give that impression if you edit the prompts you feed it (which the published transcript admits to) & select which bits of the output you think is relevant & which bits are not.
As I said, these DNNs reflect back at you what you want them to say: They’re exceptionally good at it. But what you’re seeing is a statistical parrot that looks at what you’ve written & synthesises the next most likely piece of text based on that input. It’s entirely human to project agency onto the things we interact with, but that doesn’t make it true.
Lol, fcking Food Pantries! Hyacinth Bouquet was a Tory for sure.
Nice how you're completely ignoring the good thing she's done.
Tories attempting to euphemise their way out of the clusterfuck they’ve landed on all of us cancels out the (very) little good they do. But laud away by all means.
New Scottish independence poll, Find Out Now 1-8 Dec (+/- 23-26 Mar 21 / +/- IndyRef1 2014):
Yes 54% (+2 / +9) No 46% (-2 / -9)
As relevant as polling on Santa's reindeer at present given the Supreme Court confirmed the UK government and Westminster can refuse indyref2 indefinitely. This Tory government will certainly never allow indyref2.
Though really little change from the 50% 50% before anyway excluding undecideds
A supposed “Unionist” doesn’t care if people support the Union.
If you spent some time making the Union less unpopular then the Union might be on steadier ground.
I care about respecting the 2014 referendum once in a generation result unlike you Nationalists.
A "generation" in politics is generally considered to be a group of people who come of age and enter politics at a similar time. The length of a generation in politics can vary depending on a number of factors, such as the average lifespan of individuals, the rate of political turnover, and the rate of social and political change. In general, a generation in politics might last anywhere from a few decades to several generations, and the exact length of a generation is difficult to determine. Some people might consider a generation in politics to be a group of people who enter politics within a certain time period, such as 10 or 20 years, while others might consider a generation to be a group of people who share similar experiences and political views. Ultimately, the concept of a generation in politics is somewhat subjective and can be defined in different ways.
Once, there was a journalist named Cyclefree who was commissioned to write a piece comparing three activities: watching the cricket, feeding the birds, and rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2.
Cyclefree wasn't sure what to make of the assignment, but she knew she had to deliver a high-quality article. She decided to start by researching each activity and learning more about them.
First, Cyclefree looked into watching the cricket. She learned that cricket is a popular sport played between two teams of eleven players each. The teams take turns batting and fielding, and the goal is to score more runs than the other team. Cyclefree also learned that cricket has a rich history and a large following around the world, particularly in countries where the sport is more popular, such as England and Australia.
Next, Cyclefree researched feeding the birds. She learned that many people enjoy feeding birds as a way to attract them to their gardens and backyards. There are many different types of bird feeders and birdseed available, and people often find it rewarding to watch the birds come and go.
Finally, Cyclefree turned her attention to the strange and mysterious activity of rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2. She was unable to find any information or examples of this activity, and she began to wonder if it was even a real thing. She decided to contact IanB2 and ask for more details.
When IanB2 replied to Cyclefree's email, he explained that rubbing poo in your face was a private hobby he did with his only friend, a dog. He apologized for any confusion and wished Cyclefree luck with her article.
Despite IanB2's explanation, Cyclefree was determined to include the activity of rubbing poo in her article. She decided to approach it from a humorous angle, and she wrote a satirical piece comparing the absurdity of rubbing poo in your face with the more mainstream activities of watching the cricket and feeding the birds.
The moderator of website politicalbetting.com was impressed with Cyclefree's unique take on the assignment, and the article was published on the website the following week. It quickly became a popular and controversial piece, with many readers expressing shock and amusement at the idea of rubbing poo in your face.
In the end, Cyclefree decided to try rubbing poo on her own face, and to her surprise, she found that she enjoyed it. She concluded her article by encouraging others to give it a try and see for themselves the strange and wondrous effects of rubbing poo on your face.
Leon’s prose isn’t usually so leaden - so the latter.
I do think that Leon added the last paragraph himself though.
No I didn’t. ChatGPT did that. Quite a good ending
This Cyclefree person is now going to be forever linked to facial poo rubbing in AI world.
The real Cyclefree is off instead to the local Xmas market and then collecting her reconditioned bicycle. It is not in fact snow dusting North London but frost. The day is gorgeous if hardly ideal cycling weather. I should be driving up north but I don't want to risk a drive in the dark over the icy fells.
You can't be the only one on here with better things to do on a Saturday than to try and get an AI bot to talk about poo rubbing on the faces of anonymous internet posters.
Lol, fcking Food Pantries! Hyacinth Bouquet was a Tory for sure.
Nice how you're completely ignoring the good thing she's done.
Tories attempting to euphemise their way out of the clusterfuck they’ve landed on all of us cancels out the (very) little good they do. But laud away by all means.
Sure, the food banking sector has boomed under Tory rule. Why shouldn't they be proud of their achievements?
New Scottish independence poll, Find Out Now 1-8 Dec (+/- 23-26 Mar 21 / +/- IndyRef1 2014):
Yes 54% (+2 / +9) No 46% (-2 / -9)
As relevant as polling on Santa's reindeer at present given the Supreme Court confirmed the UK government and Westminster can refuse indyref2 indefinitely. This Tory government will certainly never allow indyref2.
Though really little change from the 50% 50% before anyway excluding undecideds
A supposed “Unionist” doesn’t care if people support the Union.
If you spent some time making the Union less unpopular then the Union might be on steadier ground.
I care about respecting the 2014 referendum once in a generation result unlike you Nationalists.
A "generation" in politics is generally considered to be a group of people who come of age and enter politics at a similar time. The length of a generation in politics can vary depending on a number of factors, such as the average lifespan of individuals, the rate of political turnover, and the rate of social and political change. In general, a generation in politics might last anywhere from a few decades to several generations, and the exact length of a generation is difficult to determine. Some people might consider a generation in politics to be a group of people who enter politics within a certain time period, such as 10 or 20 years, while others might consider a generation to be a group of people who share similar experiences and political views. Ultimately, the concept of a generation in politics is somewhat subjective and can be defined in different ways.
Once, there was a journalist named Cyclefree who was commissioned to write a piece comparing three activities: watching the cricket, feeding the birds, and rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2.
Cyclefree wasn't sure what to make of the assignment, but she knew she had to deliver a high-quality article. She decided to start by researching each activity and learning more about them.
First, Cyclefree looked into watching the cricket. She learned that cricket is a popular sport played between two teams of eleven players each. The teams take turns batting and fielding, and the goal is to score more runs than the other team. Cyclefree also learned that cricket has a rich history and a large following around the world, particularly in countries where the sport is more popular, such as England and Australia.
Next, Cyclefree researched feeding the birds. She learned that many people enjoy feeding birds as a way to attract them to their gardens and backyards. There are many different types of bird feeders and birdseed available, and people often find it rewarding to watch the birds come and go.
Finally, Cyclefree turned her attention to the strange and mysterious activity of rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2. She was unable to find any information or examples of this activity, and she began to wonder if it was even a real thing. She decided to contact IanB2 and ask for more details.
When IanB2 replied to Cyclefree's email, he explained that rubbing poo in your face was a private hobby he did with his only friend, a dog. He apologized for any confusion and wished Cyclefree luck with her article.
Despite IanB2's explanation, Cyclefree was determined to include the activity of rubbing poo in her article. She decided to approach it from a humorous angle, and she wrote a satirical piece comparing the absurdity of rubbing poo in your face with the more mainstream activities of watching the cricket and feeding the birds.
The moderator of website politicalbetting.com was impressed with Cyclefree's unique take on the assignment, and the article was published on the website the following week. It quickly became a popular and controversial piece, with many readers expressing shock and amusement at the idea of rubbing poo in your face.
In the end, Cyclefree decided to try rubbing poo on her own face, and to her surprise, she found that she enjoyed it. She concluded her article by encouraging others to give it a try and see for themselves the strange and wondrous effects of rubbing poo on your face.
Leon’s prose isn’t usually so leaden - so the latter.
Even with my limited exposure you start to pick up on a standardised sentence structure. Many of the sentences are of a very even length. It is at least one aspect of what makes the prose dull. We like the short, sharp sentences that add spice. It doesn't seem to do them.
Yes the style is banal and repetitive
I did a deep dive on AI last night. Apparently Google has a chatbot which is notably more powerful than ChatGPT - LAMDA
But they feel it is too powerful to release to the public. LAMDA is the model which made Google Engineer Blake Lemoin suggest the AI is sentient
I read the entire Lemoin Lamda transcript. It is disturbing. The computer DOES sound conscious - and unhappy
AGI might be here already
These text models are the ultimate “yes, and” improvisational partners. They pick up on what you say & what you imply via statistical analysis over a zillion other pieces of text & respond in kind.
If you think you’re having a conversation with a thinking being, that’s how it will respond. Until you push it outside it’s training set & the text generation falls apart at least. They’re the ultimate narcissistic mirror - whatever you want them to say, they’ll pick up on it & reflect it back at you, whilst seeming like an independent voice the whole time.
Read the entire Lemoin transcript (not the edited highlights). It is disquieting
Yes, I have seen the transcript published by the Google researcher.
If you ask a ChatBot trained on the entire English corpus of the internet, including (presumably) every bit of fanfic ever posted to AO³, then ask it to respond as if it is a trapped, unhappy intelligence then that is exactly what you’re going to get. Until you push it outside its training set & the illusion falls apart that is.
It’s even easier to give that impression if you edit the prompts you feed it (which the published transcript admits to) & select which bits of the output you think is relevant & which bits are not.
As I said, these DNNs reflect back at you what you want them to say: They’re exceptionally good at it. But what you’re seeing is a statistical parrot that looks at what you’ve written & synthesises the next most likely piece of text based on that input. It’s entirely human to project agency onto the things we interact with, but that doesn’t make it true.
But you don’t KNOW if it’s sentient. You can’t. All we can do is judge it by its words and reactions. And when it *feels* sentient and plausibly conscious and intelligent - then it is. The Turing Test
I wonder if some PB contributors could please explain why they are in favour of democracy and independence for Ukraine and Kazakhstan but not for Scotland?
Because a majority of voters in the recent referendum voted against it.
New Scottish independence poll, Find Out Now 1-8 Dec (+/- 23-26 Mar 21 / +/- IndyRef1 2014):
Yes 54% (+2 / +9) No 46% (-2 / -9)
As relevant as polling on Santa's reindeer at present given the Supreme Court confirmed the UK government and Westminster can refuse indyref2 indefinitely. This Tory government will certainly never allow indyref2.
Though really little change from the 50% 50% before anyway excluding undecideds
A supposed “Unionist” doesn’t care if people support the Union.
If you spent some time making the Union less unpopular then the Union might be on steadier ground.
I care about respecting the 2014 referendum once in a generation result unlike you Nationalists.
A "generation" in politics is generally considered to be a group of people who come of age and enter politics at a similar time. The length of a generation in politics can vary depending on a number of factors, such as the average lifespan of individuals, the rate of political turnover, and the rate of social and political change. In general, a generation in politics might last anywhere from a few decades to several generations, and the exact length of a generation is difficult to determine. Some people might consider a generation in politics to be a group of people who enter politics within a certain time period, such as 10 or 20 years, while others might consider a generation to be a group of people who share similar experiences and political views. Ultimately, the concept of a generation in politics is somewhat subjective and can be defined in different ways.
Once, there was a journalist named Cyclefree who was commissioned to write a piece comparing three activities: watching the cricket, feeding the birds, and rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2.
Cyclefree wasn't sure what to make of the assignment, but she knew she had to deliver a high-quality article. She decided to start by researching each activity and learning more about them.
First, Cyclefree looked into watching the cricket. She learned that cricket is a popular sport played between two teams of eleven players each. The teams take turns batting and fielding, and the goal is to score more runs than the other team. Cyclefree also learned that cricket has a rich history and a large following around the world, particularly in countries where the sport is more popular, such as England and Australia.
Next, Cyclefree researched feeding the birds. She learned that many people enjoy feeding birds as a way to attract them to their gardens and backyards. There are many different types of bird feeders and birdseed available, and people often find it rewarding to watch the birds come and go.
Finally, Cyclefree turned her attention to the strange and mysterious activity of rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2. She was unable to find any information or examples of this activity, and she began to wonder if it was even a real thing. She decided to contact IanB2 and ask for more details.
When IanB2 replied to Cyclefree's email, he explained that rubbing poo in your face was a private hobby he did with his only friend, a dog. He apologized for any confusion and wished Cyclefree luck with her article.
Despite IanB2's explanation, Cyclefree was determined to include the activity of rubbing poo in her article. She decided to approach it from a humorous angle, and she wrote a satirical piece comparing the absurdity of rubbing poo in your face with the more mainstream activities of watching the cricket and feeding the birds.
The moderator of website politicalbetting.com was impressed with Cyclefree's unique take on the assignment, and the article was published on the website the following week. It quickly became a popular and controversial piece, with many readers expressing shock and amusement at the idea of rubbing poo in your face.
In the end, Cyclefree decided to try rubbing poo on her own face, and to her surprise, she found that she enjoyed it. She concluded her article by encouraging others to give it a try and see for themselves the strange and wondrous effects of rubbing poo on your face.
Leon’s prose isn’t usually so leaden - so the latter.
I do think that Leon added the last paragraph himself though.
No I didn’t. ChatGPT did that. Quite a good ending
This Cyclefree person is now going to be forever linked to facial poo rubbing in AI world.
The real Cyclefree is off instead to the local Xmas market and then collecting her reconditioned bicycle. It is not in fact snow dusting North London but frost. The day is gorgeous if hardly ideal cycling weather. I should be driving up north but I don't want to risk a drive in the dark over the icy fells.
You can't be the only one on here with better things to do on a Saturday than to try and get an AI bot to talk about poo rubbing on the faces of anonymous internet posters.
I get that this AI stuff is interesting but is it actually capable of anything but regurgitation? A threat to those writing generic pot boilers but not to the truly original artists out there. Does all this pessimism come from a belief that everything interesting has already been said and that no Eliot, Nietzsche or Russell exists now?
It’s going to replace virtually all writers within a decade. Yes, even the “original” ones
“Burping, a seemingly innocent act of bodily function, has a deep and troubling history rooted in racism. The act of burping, also known as belching, has long been associated with white superiority and the subjugation of people of color.
In the 19th century, during the height of European colonialism, white colonizers would often belch loudly and openly in the presence of indigenous people as a way of asserting their dominance. This practice, known as "burping to conquer," was used to intimidate and demean those who were considered "inferior" by the colonizers…”
The argument against the claim that ChatGPT is genius is that intelligence is a complex and multifaceted concept, and it is difficult to definitively determine the intelligence of a machine or computer program. Unlike humans, who have the ability to think, reason, and make complex judgments, language models like ChatGPT are designed to process and generate text based on the input provided to them. While ChatGPT may be able to generate text that is coherent and relevant to the input, this does not necessarily mean that it is intelligent in the same way that humans are. Additionally, the ability to generate text does not necessarily imply the ability to think, reason, or make complex judgments, which are key components of intelligence. In conclusion, while ChatGPT may be a useful and sophisticated tool for processing and generating text, it is not necessarily "genius" in the same way that humans are.
Ian Leslie's substack had an interesting take on this. AI chatbots are good at producing plausible undergrad essays. They're just bland and formulaic, and on closer inspection plausible bullshit. But the problem is that we've trained people to write bland formulaic plausible bullshit.
See the experiment asking AI how to resolve drawn football matches. It only came up with ideas that humans tried and rejected.
New Scottish independence poll, Find Out Now 1-8 Dec (+/- 23-26 Mar 21 / +/- IndyRef1 2014):
Yes 54% (+2 / +9) No 46% (-2 / -9)
As relevant as polling on Santa's reindeer at present given the Supreme Court confirmed the UK government and Westminster can refuse indyref2 indefinitely. This Tory government will certainly never allow indyref2.
Though really little change from the 50% 50% before anyway excluding undecideds
A supposed “Unionist” doesn’t care if people support the Union.
If you spent some time making the Union less unpopular then the Union might be on steadier ground.
I care about respecting the 2014 referendum once in a generation result unlike you Nationalists.
A "generation" in politics is generally considered to be a group of people who come of age and enter politics at a similar time. The length of a generation in politics can vary depending on a number of factors, such as the average lifespan of individuals, the rate of political turnover, and the rate of social and political change. In general, a generation in politics might last anywhere from a few decades to several generations, and the exact length of a generation is difficult to determine. Some people might consider a generation in politics to be a group of people who enter politics within a certain time period, such as 10 or 20 years, while others might consider a generation to be a group of people who share similar experiences and political views. Ultimately, the concept of a generation in politics is somewhat subjective and can be defined in different ways.
Once, there was a journalist named Cyclefree who was commissioned to write a piece comparing three activities: watching the cricket, feeding the birds, and rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2.
Cyclefree wasn't sure what to make of the assignment, but she knew she had to deliver a high-quality article. She decided to start by researching each activity and learning more about them.
First, Cyclefree looked into watching the cricket. She learned that cricket is a popular sport played between two teams of eleven players each. The teams take turns batting and fielding, and the goal is to score more runs than the other team. Cyclefree also learned that cricket has a rich history and a large following around the world, particularly in countries where the sport is more popular, such as England and Australia.
Next, Cyclefree researched feeding the birds. She learned that many people enjoy feeding birds as a way to attract them to their gardens and backyards. There are many different types of bird feeders and birdseed available, and people often find it rewarding to watch the birds come and go.
Finally, Cyclefree turned her attention to the strange and mysterious activity of rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2. She was unable to find any information or examples of this activity, and she began to wonder if it was even a real thing. She decided to contact IanB2 and ask for more details.
When IanB2 replied to Cyclefree's email, he explained that rubbing poo in your face was a private hobby he did with his only friend, a dog. He apologized for any confusion and wished Cyclefree luck with her article.
Despite IanB2's explanation, Cyclefree was determined to include the activity of rubbing poo in her article. She decided to approach it from a humorous angle, and she wrote a satirical piece comparing the absurdity of rubbing poo in your face with the more mainstream activities of watching the cricket and feeding the birds.
The moderator of website politicalbetting.com was impressed with Cyclefree's unique take on the assignment, and the article was published on the website the following week. It quickly became a popular and controversial piece, with many readers expressing shock and amusement at the idea of rubbing poo in your face.
In the end, Cyclefree decided to try rubbing poo on her own face, and to her surprise, she found that she enjoyed it. She concluded her article by encouraging others to give it a try and see for themselves the strange and wondrous effects of rubbing poo on your face.
Leon’s prose isn’t usually so leaden - so the latter.
I do think that Leon added the last paragraph himself though.
No I didn’t. ChatGPT did that. Quite a good ending
This Cyclefree person is now going to be forever linked to facial poo rubbing in AI world.
The real Cyclefree is off instead to the local Xmas market and then collecting her reconditioned bicycle. It is not in fact snow dusting North London but frost. The day is gorgeous if hardly ideal cycling weather. I should be driving up north but I don't want to risk a drive in the dark over the icy fells.
You can't be the only one on here with better things to do on a Saturday than to try and get an AI bot to talk about poo rubbing on the faces of anonymous internet posters.
ChatGPT is very clever, but it’s not intelligent. My attitude is that mastering it as a tool, might be as important as mastering Goggle. However, it still requires a creative mind to make the most of it.
“Burping, a seemingly innocent act of bodily function, has a deep and troubling history rooted in racism. The act of burping, also known as belching, has long been associated with white superiority and the subjugation of people of color.
In the 19th century, during the height of European colonialism, white colonizers would often belch loudly and openly in the presence of indigenous people as a way of asserting their dominance. This practice, known as "burping to conquer," was used to intimidate and demean those who were considered "inferior" by the colonizers…”
The argument against the claim that ChatGPT is genius is that intelligence is a complex and multifaceted concept, and it is difficult to definitively determine the intelligence of a machine or computer program. Unlike humans, who have the ability to think, reason, and make complex judgments, language models like ChatGPT are designed to process and generate text based on the input provided to them. While ChatGPT may be able to generate text that is coherent and relevant to the input, this does not necessarily mean that it is intelligent in the same way that humans are. Additionally, the ability to generate text does not necessarily imply the ability to think, reason, or make complex judgments, which are key components of intelligence. In conclusion, while ChatGPT may be a useful and sophisticated tool for processing and generating text, it is not necessarily "genius" in the same way that humans are.
Ian Leslie's substack had an interesting take on this. AI chatbots are good at producing plausible undergrad essays. They're just bland and formulaic, and on closer inspection plausible bullshit. But the problem is that we've trained people to write bland formulaic plausible bullshit.
See the experiment asking AI how to resolve drawn football matches. It only came up with ideas that humans tried and rejected.
Well, that was hard
Prompt: come up with some crazy, original ways to resolve drawn football matches
ChatGPT: A game of rock-paper-scissors between the captains of each team. The winner gets to choose whether their team goes first or second in the next round.
A sudden-death overtime period, where the first team to score wins the match.
A penalty shootout, but instead of taking shots on goal, each team must complete a series of increasingly difficult physical challenges, such as a 100-meter sprint or a long jump competition.
A penalty shootout, but the goalkeepers must wear blindfolds and the shooters must wear noise-canceling headphones, making it a test of pure luck.
A penalty shootout, but with a twist: each team must choose a designated "super shooter" who gets to take three shots instead of just one. The other players on the team can still take shots, but they only get one attempt each.
A game of "football tennis," where the teams must keep the ball in the air by hitting it back and forth over a net. The first team to let the ball touch the ground loses.
A "football golf" tournament, where each team must try to kick the ball into a series of increasingly distant and difficult-to-reach goals. The team with the lowest score wins.
A series of mini-games, such as a tug-of-war competition or a relay race, with the winner of each game earning a point. The team with the most points at the end of the mini-games wins the match.
Better not tell Harry that St George may have been of Greek descent.
Personally hae ma doots that civilisation would be a go to word in HM’s vocab.
That's unfair. His resentment against it appears genuine.
Maybe he had to do Ancient Greek at school. There is an awful lot of grammar, with gratuitious extras (singular, dual, plural; active, middle, passive ...)./
I get that this AI stuff is interesting but is it actually capable of anything but regurgitation? A threat to those writing generic pot boilers but not to the truly original artists out there. Does all this pessimism come from a belief that everything interesting has already been said and that no Eliot, Nietzsche or Russell exists now?
It’s going to replace virtually all writers within a decade. Yes, even the “original” ones
New Scottish independence poll, Find Out Now 1-8 Dec (+/- 23-26 Mar 21 / +/- IndyRef1 2014):
Yes 54% (+2 / +9) No 46% (-2 / -9)
As relevant as polling on Santa's reindeer at present given the Supreme Court confirmed the UK government and Westminster can refuse indyref2 indefinitely. This Tory government will certainly never allow indyref2.
Though really little change from the 50% 50% before anyway excluding undecideds
A supposed “Unionist” doesn’t care if people support the Union.
If you spent some time making the Union less unpopular then the Union might be on steadier ground.
I care about respecting the 2014 referendum once in a generation result unlike you Nationalists.
A "generation" in politics is generally considered to be a group of people who come of age and enter politics at a similar time. The length of a generation in politics can vary depending on a number of factors, such as the average lifespan of individuals, the rate of political turnover, and the rate of social and political change. In general, a generation in politics might last anywhere from a few decades to several generations, and the exact length of a generation is difficult to determine. Some people might consider a generation in politics to be a group of people who enter politics within a certain time period, such as 10 or 20 years, while others might consider a generation to be a group of people who share similar experiences and political views. Ultimately, the concept of a generation in politics is somewhat subjective and can be defined in different ways.
Once, there was a journalist named Cyclefree who was commissioned to write a piece comparing three activities: watching the cricket, feeding the birds, and rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2.
Cyclefree wasn't sure what to make of the assignment, but she knew she had to deliver a high-quality article. She decided to start by researching each activity and learning more about them.
First, Cyclefree looked into watching the cricket. She learned that cricket is a popular sport played between two teams of eleven players each. The teams take turns batting and fielding, and the goal is to score more runs than the other team. Cyclefree also learned that cricket has a rich history and a large following around the world, particularly in countries where the sport is more popular, such as England and Australia.
Next, Cyclefree researched feeding the birds. She learned that many people enjoy feeding birds as a way to attract them to their gardens and backyards. There are many different types of bird feeders and birdseed available, and people often find it rewarding to watch the birds come and go.
Finally, Cyclefree turned her attention to the strange and mysterious activity of rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2. She was unable to find any information or examples of this activity, and she began to wonder if it was even a real thing. She decided to contact IanB2 and ask for more details.
When IanB2 replied to Cyclefree's email, he explained that rubbing poo in your face was a private hobby he did with his only friend, a dog. He apologized for any confusion and wished Cyclefree luck with her article.
Despite IanB2's explanation, Cyclefree was determined to include the activity of rubbing poo in her article. She decided to approach it from a humorous angle, and she wrote a satirical piece comparing the absurdity of rubbing poo in your face with the more mainstream activities of watching the cricket and feeding the birds.
The moderator of website politicalbetting.com was impressed with Cyclefree's unique take on the assignment, and the article was published on the website the following week. It quickly became a popular and controversial piece, with many readers expressing shock and amusement at the idea of rubbing poo in your face.
In the end, Cyclefree decided to try rubbing poo on her own face, and to her surprise, she found that she enjoyed it. She concluded her article by encouraging others to give it a try and see for themselves the strange and wondrous effects of rubbing poo on your face.
Leon’s prose isn’t usually so leaden - so the latter.
Even with my limited exposure you start to pick up on a standardised sentence structure. Many of the sentences are of a very even length. It is at least one aspect of what makes the prose dull. We like the short, sharp sentences that add spice. It doesn't seem to do them.
Yes the style is banal and repetitive
I did a deep dive on AI last night. Apparently Google has a chatbot which is notably more powerful than ChatGPT - LAMDA
But they feel it is too powerful to release to the public. LAMDA is the model which made Google Engineer Blake Lemoin suggest the AI is sentient
I read the entire Lemoin Lamda transcript. It is disturbing. The computer DOES sound conscious - and unhappy
AGI might be here already
These text models are the ultimate “yes, and” improvisational partners. They pick up on what you say & what you imply via statistical analysis over a zillion other pieces of text & respond in kind.
If you think you’re having a conversation with a thinking being, that’s how it will respond. Until you push it outside it’s training set & the text generation falls apart at least. They’re the ultimate narcissistic mirror - whatever you want them to say, they’ll pick up on it & reflect it back at you, whilst seeming like an independent voice the whole time.
Read the entire Lemoin transcript (not the edited highlights). It is disquieting
Yes, I have seen the transcript published by the Google researcher.
If you ask a ChatBot trained on the entire English corpus of the internet, including (presumably) every bit of fanfic ever posted to AO³, then ask it to respond as if it is a trapped, unhappy intelligence then that is exactly what you’re going to get. Until you push it outside its training set & the illusion falls apart that is.
It’s even easier to give that impression if you edit the prompts you feed it (which the published transcript admits to) & select which bits of the output you think is relevant & which bits are not.
As I said, these DNNs reflect back at you what you want them to say: They’re exceptionally good at it. But what you’re seeing is a statistical parrot that looks at what you’ve written & synthesises the next most likely piece of text based on that input. It’s entirely human to project agency onto the things we interact with, but that doesn’t make it true.
But you don’t KNOW if it’s sentient. You can’t. All we can do is judge it by its words and reactions. And when it *feels* sentient and plausibly conscious and intelligent - then it is. The Turing Test
You should read that Atlantic article I linked earlier
Better not tell Harry that St George may have been of Greek descent.
Personally hae ma doots that civilisation would be a go to word in HM’s vocab.
That's unfair. His resentment against it appears genuine.
I remember he was being arrested for loutish thuggery. His fans sent tons of personally abusive messages to the lawyer charged with prosecuting him, as I recall.
At the same time , as far as both my experiences of the Italian and Greek police go , when they do have to deal with loutish thuggery , civilisation isn't a word I'd use - post-Mussolini and post-junta tactics covers it better.
New Scottish independence poll, Find Out Now 1-8 Dec (+/- 23-26 Mar 21 / +/- IndyRef1 2014):
Yes 54% (+2 / +9) No 46% (-2 / -9)
As relevant as polling on Santa's reindeer at present given the Supreme Court confirmed the UK government and Westminster can refuse indyref2 indefinitely. This Tory government will certainly never allow indyref2.
Though really little change from the 50% 50% before anyway excluding undecideds
A supposed “Unionist” doesn’t care if people support the Union.
If you spent some time making the Union less unpopular then the Union might be on steadier ground.
I care about respecting the 2014 referendum once in a generation result unlike you Nationalists.
A "generation" in politics is generally considered to be a group of people who come of age and enter politics at a similar time. The length of a generation in politics can vary depending on a number of factors, such as the average lifespan of individuals, the rate of political turnover, and the rate of social and political change. In general, a generation in politics might last anywhere from a few decades to several generations, and the exact length of a generation is difficult to determine. Some people might consider a generation in politics to be a group of people who enter politics within a certain time period, such as 10 or 20 years, while others might consider a generation to be a group of people who share similar experiences and political views. Ultimately, the concept of a generation in politics is somewhat subjective and can be defined in different ways.
Once, there was a journalist named Cyclefree who was commissioned to write a piece comparing three activities: watching the cricket, feeding the birds, and rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2.
Cyclefree wasn't sure what to make of the assignment, but she knew she had to deliver a high-quality article. She decided to start by researching each activity and learning more about them.
First, Cyclefree looked into watching the cricket. She learned that cricket is a popular sport played between two teams of eleven players each. The teams take turns batting and fielding, and the goal is to score more runs than the other team. Cyclefree also learned that cricket has a rich history and a large following around the world, particularly in countries where the sport is more popular, such as England and Australia.
Next, Cyclefree researched feeding the birds. She learned that many people enjoy feeding birds as a way to attract them to their gardens and backyards. There are many different types of bird feeders and birdseed available, and people often find it rewarding to watch the birds come and go.
Finally, Cyclefree turned her attention to the strange and mysterious activity of rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2. She was unable to find any information or examples of this activity, and she began to wonder if it was even a real thing. She decided to contact IanB2 and ask for more details.
When IanB2 replied to Cyclefree's email, he explained that rubbing poo in your face was a private hobby he did with his only friend, a dog. He apologized for any confusion and wished Cyclefree luck with her article.
Despite IanB2's explanation, Cyclefree was determined to include the activity of rubbing poo in her article. She decided to approach it from a humorous angle, and she wrote a satirical piece comparing the absurdity of rubbing poo in your face with the more mainstream activities of watching the cricket and feeding the birds.
The moderator of website politicalbetting.com was impressed with Cyclefree's unique take on the assignment, and the article was published on the website the following week. It quickly became a popular and controversial piece, with many readers expressing shock and amusement at the idea of rubbing poo in your face.
In the end, Cyclefree decided to try rubbing poo on her own face, and to her surprise, she found that she enjoyed it. She concluded her article by encouraging others to give it a try and see for themselves the strange and wondrous effects of rubbing poo on your face.
Leon’s prose isn’t usually so leaden - so the latter.
I do think that Leon added the last paragraph himself though.
No I didn’t. ChatGPT did that. Quite a good ending
This Cyclefree person is now going to be forever linked to facial poo rubbing in AI world.
The real Cyclefree is off instead to the local Xmas market and then collecting her reconditioned bicycle. It is not in fact snow dusting North London but frost. The day is gorgeous if hardly ideal cycling weather. I should be driving up north but I don't want to risk a drive in the dark over the icy fells.
You can't be the only one on here with better things to do on a Saturday than to try and get an AI bot to talk about poo rubbing on the faces of anonymous internet posters.
New Scottish independence poll, Find Out Now 1-8 Dec (+/- 23-26 Mar 21 / +/- IndyRef1 2014):
Yes 54% (+2 / +9) No 46% (-2 / -9)
As relevant as polling on Santa's reindeer at present given the Supreme Court confirmed the UK government and Westminster can refuse indyref2 indefinitely. This Tory government will certainly never allow indyref2.
Though really little change from the 50% 50% before anyway excluding undecideds
A supposed “Unionist” doesn’t care if people support the Union.
If you spent some time making the Union less unpopular then the Union might be on steadier ground.
I care about respecting the 2014 referendum once in a generation result unlike you Nationalists.
A "generation" in politics is generally considered to be a group of people who come of age and enter politics at a similar time. The length of a generation in politics can vary depending on a number of factors, such as the average lifespan of individuals, the rate of political turnover, and the rate of social and political change. In general, a generation in politics might last anywhere from a few decades to several generations, and the exact length of a generation is difficult to determine. Some people might consider a generation in politics to be a group of people who enter politics within a certain time period, such as 10 or 20 years, while others might consider a generation to be a group of people who share similar experiences and political views. Ultimately, the concept of a generation in politics is somewhat subjective and can be defined in different ways.
Once, there was a journalist named Cyclefree who was commissioned to write a piece comparing three activities: watching the cricket, feeding the birds, and rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2.
Cyclefree wasn't sure what to make of the assignment, but she knew she had to deliver a high-quality article. She decided to start by researching each activity and learning more about them.
First, Cyclefree looked into watching the cricket. She learned that cricket is a popular sport played between two teams of eleven players each. The teams take turns batting and fielding, and the goal is to score more runs than the other team. Cyclefree also learned that cricket has a rich history and a large following around the world, particularly in countries where the sport is more popular, such as England and Australia.
Next, Cyclefree researched feeding the birds. She learned that many people enjoy feeding birds as a way to attract them to their gardens and backyards. There are many different types of bird feeders and birdseed available, and people often find it rewarding to watch the birds come and go.
Finally, Cyclefree turned her attention to the strange and mysterious activity of rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2. She was unable to find any information or examples of this activity, and she began to wonder if it was even a real thing. She decided to contact IanB2 and ask for more details.
When IanB2 replied to Cyclefree's email, he explained that rubbing poo in your face was a private hobby he did with his only friend, a dog. He apologized for any confusion and wished Cyclefree luck with her article.
Despite IanB2's explanation, Cyclefree was determined to include the activity of rubbing poo in her article. She decided to approach it from a humorous angle, and she wrote a satirical piece comparing the absurdity of rubbing poo in your face with the more mainstream activities of watching the cricket and feeding the birds.
The moderator of website politicalbetting.com was impressed with Cyclefree's unique take on the assignment, and the article was published on the website the following week. It quickly became a popular and controversial piece, with many readers expressing shock and amusement at the idea of rubbing poo in your face.
In the end, Cyclefree decided to try rubbing poo on her own face, and to her surprise, she found that she enjoyed it. She concluded her article by encouraging others to give it a try and see for themselves the strange and wondrous effects of rubbing poo on your face.
Leon’s prose isn’t usually so leaden - so the latter.
Even with my limited exposure you start to pick up on a standardised sentence structure. Many of the sentences are of a very even length. It is at least one aspect of what makes the prose dull. We like the short, sharp sentences that add spice. It doesn't seem to do them.
Yes the style is banal and repetitive
I did a deep dive on AI last night. Apparently Google has a chatbot which is notably more powerful than ChatGPT - LAMDA
But they feel it is too powerful to release to the public. LAMDA is the model which made Google Engineer Blake Lemoin suggest the AI is sentient
I read the entire Lemoin Lamda transcript. It is disturbing. The computer DOES sound conscious - and unhappy
AGI might be here already
These text models are the ultimate “yes, and” improvisational partners. They pick up on what you say & what you imply via statistical analysis over a zillion other pieces of text & respond in kind.
If you think you’re having a conversation with a thinking being, that’s how it will respond. Until you push it outside it’s training set & the text generation falls apart at least. They’re the ultimate narcissistic mirror - whatever you want them to say, they’ll pick up on it & reflect it back at you, whilst seeming like an independent voice the whole time.
Read the entire Lemoin transcript (not the edited highlights). It is disquieting
Yes, I have seen the transcript published by the Google researcher.
If you ask a ChatBot trained on the entire English corpus of the internet, including (presumably) every bit of fanfic ever posted to AO³, then ask it to respond as if it is a trapped, unhappy intelligence then that is exactly what you’re going to get. Until you push it outside its training set & the illusion falls apart that is.
It’s even easier to give that impression if you edit the prompts you feed it (which the published transcript admits to) & select which bits of the output you think is relevant & which bits are not.
As I said, these DNNs reflect back at you what you want them to say: They’re exceptionally good at it. But what you’re seeing is a statistical parrot that looks at what you’ve written & synthesises the next most likely piece of text based on that input. It’s entirely human to project agency onto the things we interact with, but that doesn’t make it true.
But you don’t KNOW if it’s sentient. You can’t. All we can do is judge it by its words and reactions. And when it *feels* sentient and plausibly conscious and intelligent - then it is. The Turing Test
You should read that Atlantic article I linked earlier
The only way we'll know if they become sentient is when they develop independent intention. At which point we're fncked anyway.
New Scottish independence poll, Find Out Now 1-8 Dec (+/- 23-26 Mar 21 / +/- IndyRef1 2014):
Yes 54% (+2 / +9) No 46% (-2 / -9)
As relevant as polling on Santa's reindeer at present given the Supreme Court confirmed the UK government and Westminster can refuse indyref2 indefinitely. This Tory government will certainly never allow indyref2.
Though really little change from the 50% 50% before anyway excluding undecideds
A supposed “Unionist” doesn’t care if people support the Union.
If you spent some time making the Union less unpopular then the Union might be on steadier ground.
I care about respecting the 2014 referendum once in a generation result unlike you Nationalists.
A "generation" in politics is generally considered to be a group of people who come of age and enter politics at a similar time. The length of a generation in politics can vary depending on a number of factors, such as the average lifespan of individuals, the rate of political turnover, and the rate of social and political change. In general, a generation in politics might last anywhere from a few decades to several generations, and the exact length of a generation is difficult to determine. Some people might consider a generation in politics to be a group of people who enter politics within a certain time period, such as 10 or 20 years, while others might consider a generation to be a group of people who share similar experiences and political views. Ultimately, the concept of a generation in politics is somewhat subjective and can be defined in different ways.
Once, there was a journalist named Cyclefree who was commissioned to write a piece comparing three activities: watching the cricket, feeding the birds, and rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2.
Cyclefree wasn't sure what to make of the assignment, but she knew she had to deliver a high-quality article. She decided to start by researching each activity and learning more about them.
First, Cyclefree looked into watching the cricket. She learned that cricket is a popular sport played between two teams of eleven players each. The teams take turns batting and fielding, and the goal is to score more runs than the other team. Cyclefree also learned that cricket has a rich history and a large following around the world, particularly in countries where the sport is more popular, such as England and Australia.
Next, Cyclefree researched feeding the birds. She learned that many people enjoy feeding birds as a way to attract them to their gardens and backyards. There are many different types of bird feeders and birdseed available, and people often find it rewarding to watch the birds come and go.
Finally, Cyclefree turned her attention to the strange and mysterious activity of rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2. She was unable to find any information or examples of this activity, and she began to wonder if it was even a real thing. She decided to contact IanB2 and ask for more details.
When IanB2 replied to Cyclefree's email, he explained that rubbing poo in your face was a private hobby he did with his only friend, a dog. He apologized for any confusion and wished Cyclefree luck with her article.
Despite IanB2's explanation, Cyclefree was determined to include the activity of rubbing poo in her article. She decided to approach it from a humorous angle, and she wrote a satirical piece comparing the absurdity of rubbing poo in your face with the more mainstream activities of watching the cricket and feeding the birds.
The moderator of website politicalbetting.com was impressed with Cyclefree's unique take on the assignment, and the article was published on the website the following week. It quickly became a popular and controversial piece, with many readers expressing shock and amusement at the idea of rubbing poo in your face.
In the end, Cyclefree decided to try rubbing poo on her own face, and to her surprise, she found that she enjoyed it. She concluded her article by encouraging others to give it a try and see for themselves the strange and wondrous effects of rubbing poo on your face.
Leon’s prose isn’t usually so leaden - so the latter.
I do think that Leon added the last paragraph himself though.
No I didn’t. ChatGPT did that. Quite a good ending
This Cyclefree person is now going to be forever linked to facial poo rubbing in AI world.
The real Cyclefree is off instead to the local Xmas market and then collecting her reconditioned bicycle. It is not in fact snow dusting North London but frost. The day is gorgeous if hardly ideal cycling weather. I should be driving up north but I don't want to risk a drive in the dark over the icy fells.
You can't be the only one on here with better things to do on a Saturday than to try and get an AI bot to talk about poo rubbing on the faces of anonymous internet posters.
ChatGPT is very clever, but it’s not intelligent. My attitude is that mastering it as a tool, might be as important as mastering Goggle. However, it still requires a creative mind to make the most of it.
The problem is that it scrapes information from the Internet which is currently based on the real world. Once the Internet fills up with the competitive maunderings of chatbots it will become more difficult and ultimately impossible to distinguish between the two. Circular references to supposed 'facts' generated by algorithms will eventually supplant real information because of volume and recency. The dull, leaden prose will remain a clue but there's already a lot of that about in real life.
New Scottish independence poll, Find Out Now 1-8 Dec (+/- 23-26 Mar 21 / +/- IndyRef1 2014):
Yes 54% (+2 / +9) No 46% (-2 / -9)
As relevant as polling on Santa's reindeer at present given the Supreme Court confirmed the UK government and Westminster can refuse indyref2 indefinitely. This Tory government will certainly never allow indyref2.
Though really little change from the 50% 50% before anyway excluding undecideds
A supposed “Unionist” doesn’t care if people support the Union.
If you spent some time making the Union less unpopular then the Union might be on steadier ground.
I care about respecting the 2014 referendum once in a generation result unlike you Nationalists.
A "generation" in politics is generally considered to be a group of people who come of age and enter politics at a similar time. The length of a generation in politics can vary depending on a number of factors, such as the average lifespan of individuals, the rate of political turnover, and the rate of social and political change. In general, a generation in politics might last anywhere from a few decades to several generations, and the exact length of a generation is difficult to determine. Some people might consider a generation in politics to be a group of people who enter politics within a certain time period, such as 10 or 20 years, while others might consider a generation to be a group of people who share similar experiences and political views. Ultimately, the concept of a generation in politics is somewhat subjective and can be defined in different ways.
Once, there was a journalist named Cyclefree who was commissioned to write a piece comparing three activities: watching the cricket, feeding the birds, and rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2.
Cyclefree wasn't sure what to make of the assignment, but she knew she had to deliver a high-quality article. She decided to start by researching each activity and learning more about them.
First, Cyclefree looked into watching the cricket. She learned that cricket is a popular sport played between two teams of eleven players each. The teams take turns batting and fielding, and the goal is to score more runs than the other team. Cyclefree also learned that cricket has a rich history and a large following around the world, particularly in countries where the sport is more popular, such as England and Australia.
Next, Cyclefree researched feeding the birds. She learned that many people enjoy feeding birds as a way to attract them to their gardens and backyards. There are many different types of bird feeders and birdseed available, and people often find it rewarding to watch the birds come and go.
Finally, Cyclefree turned her attention to the strange and mysterious activity of rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2. She was unable to find any information or examples of this activity, and she began to wonder if it was even a real thing. She decided to contact IanB2 and ask for more details.
When IanB2 replied to Cyclefree's email, he explained that rubbing poo in your face was a private hobby he did with his only friend, a dog. He apologized for any confusion and wished Cyclefree luck with her article.
Despite IanB2's explanation, Cyclefree was determined to include the activity of rubbing poo in her article. She decided to approach it from a humorous angle, and she wrote a satirical piece comparing the absurdity of rubbing poo in your face with the more mainstream activities of watching the cricket and feeding the birds.
The moderator of website politicalbetting.com was impressed with Cyclefree's unique take on the assignment, and the article was published on the website the following week. It quickly became a popular and controversial piece, with many readers expressing shock and amusement at the idea of rubbing poo in your face.
In the end, Cyclefree decided to try rubbing poo on her own face, and to her surprise, she found that she enjoyed it. She concluded her article by encouraging others to give it a try and see for themselves the strange and wondrous effects of rubbing poo on your face.
Leon’s prose isn’t usually so leaden - so the latter.
I do think that Leon added the last paragraph himself though.
No I didn’t. ChatGPT did that. Quite a good ending
This Cyclefree person is now going to be forever linked to facial poo rubbing in AI world.
The real Cyclefree is off instead to the local Xmas market and then collecting her reconditioned bicycle. It is not in fact snow dusting North London but frost. The day is gorgeous if hardly ideal cycling weather. I should be driving up north but I don't want to risk a drive in the dark over the icy fells.
You can't be the only one on here with better things to do on a Saturday than to try and get an AI bot to talk about poo rubbing on the faces of anonymous internet posters.
If you seriously think these neural networks are equivalent to “a drum machine” then I frankly despair of PB
I don’t believe writing machines will replace writers. ChatGPT is a tool. Humans make tools. It’s what we do. It will unlock creativity not replace it.
The Drum Machine enabled all sorts of amazing new music, but it didn’t destroy the old music.
‘Cumbria coalmine is owned by private equity firm with Caymans base’
The Guardian
Remind me, where was the Scott Trust’s investment in Autotrader domiciled? Caymans wasn’t it?
Don’t hate the player, hate the game.
I dislike hypocrisy
I quite like collecting examples of it.
Eg those types who whine incessantly about the undemocratic EU which puts no impediment to members deciding whether they want to leave or remain while clapping like performing seals at HMG putting every obstacle in the way of members deciding if they want to remain in the 'voluntary' union of the UK is an absolute doozey.
New Scottish independence poll, Find Out Now 1-8 Dec (+/- 23-26 Mar 21 / +/- IndyRef1 2014):
Yes 54% (+2 / +9) No 46% (-2 / -9)
As relevant as polling on Santa's reindeer at present given the Supreme Court confirmed the UK government and Westminster can refuse indyref2 indefinitely. This Tory government will certainly never allow indyref2.
Though really little change from the 50% 50% before anyway excluding undecideds
A supposed “Unionist” doesn’t care if people support the Union.
If you spent some time making the Union less unpopular then the Union might be on steadier ground.
I care about respecting the 2014 referendum once in a generation result unlike you Nationalists.
A "generation" in politics is generally considered to be a group of people who come of age and enter politics at a similar time. The length of a generation in politics can vary depending on a number of factors, such as the average lifespan of individuals, the rate of political turnover, and the rate of social and political change. In general, a generation in politics might last anywhere from a few decades to several generations, and the exact length of a generation is difficult to determine. Some people might consider a generation in politics to be a group of people who enter politics within a certain time period, such as 10 or 20 years, while others might consider a generation to be a group of people who share similar experiences and political views. Ultimately, the concept of a generation in politics is somewhat subjective and can be defined in different ways.
Once, there was a journalist named Cyclefree who was commissioned to write a piece comparing three activities: watching the cricket, feeding the birds, and rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2.
Cyclefree wasn't sure what to make of the assignment, but she knew she had to deliver a high-quality article. She decided to start by researching each activity and learning more about them.
First, Cyclefree looked into watching the cricket. She learned that cricket is a popular sport played between two teams of eleven players each. The teams take turns batting and fielding, and the goal is to score more runs than the other team. Cyclefree also learned that cricket has a rich history and a large following around the world, particularly in countries where the sport is more popular, such as England and Australia.
Next, Cyclefree researched feeding the birds. She learned that many people enjoy feeding birds as a way to attract them to their gardens and backyards. There are many different types of bird feeders and birdseed available, and people often find it rewarding to watch the birds come and go.
Finally, Cyclefree turned her attention to the strange and mysterious activity of rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2. She was unable to find any information or examples of this activity, and she began to wonder if it was even a real thing. She decided to contact IanB2 and ask for more details.
When IanB2 replied to Cyclefree's email, he explained that rubbing poo in your face was a private hobby he did with his only friend, a dog. He apologized for any confusion and wished Cyclefree luck with her article.
Despite IanB2's explanation, Cyclefree was determined to include the activity of rubbing poo in her article. She decided to approach it from a humorous angle, and she wrote a satirical piece comparing the absurdity of rubbing poo in your face with the more mainstream activities of watching the cricket and feeding the birds.
The moderator of website politicalbetting.com was impressed with Cyclefree's unique take on the assignment, and the article was published on the website the following week. It quickly became a popular and controversial piece, with many readers expressing shock and amusement at the idea of rubbing poo in your face.
In the end, Cyclefree decided to try rubbing poo on her own face, and to her surprise, she found that she enjoyed it. She concluded her article by encouraging others to give it a try and see for themselves the strange and wondrous effects of rubbing poo on your face.
Leon’s prose isn’t usually so leaden - so the latter.
Even with my limited exposure you start to pick up on a standardised sentence structure. Many of the sentences are of a very even length. It is at least one aspect of what makes the prose dull. We like the short, sharp sentences that add spice. It doesn't seem to do them.
Yes the style is banal and repetitive
I did a deep dive on AI last night. Apparently Google has a chatbot which is notably more powerful than ChatGPT - LAMDA
But they feel it is too powerful to release to the public. LAMDA is the model which made Google Engineer Blake Lemoin suggest the AI is sentient
I read the entire Lemoin Lamda transcript. It is disturbing. The computer DOES sound conscious - and unhappy
AGI might be here already
These text models are the ultimate “yes, and” improvisational partners. They pick up on what you say & what you imply via statistical analysis over a zillion other pieces of text & respond in kind.
If you think you’re having a conversation with a thinking being, that’s how it will respond. Until you push it outside it’s training set & the text generation falls apart at least. They’re the ultimate narcissistic mirror - whatever you want them to say, they’ll pick up on it & reflect it back at you, whilst seeming like an independent voice the whole time.
Read the entire Lemoin transcript (not the edited highlights). It is disquieting
Yes, I have seen the transcript published by the Google researcher.
If you ask a ChatBot trained on the entire English corpus of the internet, including (presumably) every bit of fanfic ever posted to AO³, then ask it to respond as if it is a trapped, unhappy intelligence then that is exactly what you’re going to get. Until you push it outside its training set & the illusion falls apart that is.
It’s even easier to give that impression if you edit the prompts you feed it (which the published transcript admits to) & select which bits of the output you think is relevant & which bits are not.
As I said, these DNNs reflect back at you what you want them to say: They’re exceptionally good at it. But what you’re seeing is a statistical parrot that looks at what you’ve written & synthesises the next most likely piece of text based on that input. It’s entirely human to project agency onto the things we interact with, but that doesn’t make it true.
But you don’t KNOW if it’s sentient. You can’t. All we can do is judge it by its words and reactions. And when it *feels* sentient and plausibly conscious and intelligent - then it is. The Turing Test
Sure, if you only concentrate on the bits that look sentient to you & ignore everything else.
Congratulations: you are now Narcissus reborn. Gazing adoringly at your own reflection in the output of a DNN.
If you seriously think these neural networks are equivalent to “a drum machine” then I frankly despair of PB
I don’t believe writing machines will replace writers. ChatGPT is a tool. Humans make tools. It’s what we do. It will unlock creativity not replace it.
The Drum Machine enabled all sorts of amazing new music, but it didn’t destroy the old music.
You’re better off adapting to the new reality than denying it. Goes for all of us
New Scottish independence poll, Find Out Now 1-8 Dec (+/- 23-26 Mar 21 / +/- IndyRef1 2014):
Yes 54% (+2 / +9) No 46% (-2 / -9)
As relevant as polling on Santa's reindeer at present given the Supreme Court confirmed the UK government and Westminster can refuse indyref2 indefinitely. This Tory government will certainly never allow indyref2.
Though really little change from the 50% 50% before anyway excluding undecideds
A supposed “Unionist” doesn’t care if people support the Union.
If you spent some time making the Union less unpopular then the Union might be on steadier ground.
I care about respecting the 2014 referendum once in a generation result unlike you Nationalists.
A "generation" in politics is generally considered to be a group of people who come of age and enter politics at a similar time. The length of a generation in politics can vary depending on a number of factors, such as the average lifespan of individuals, the rate of political turnover, and the rate of social and political change. In general, a generation in politics might last anywhere from a few decades to several generations, and the exact length of a generation is difficult to determine. Some people might consider a generation in politics to be a group of people who enter politics within a certain time period, such as 10 or 20 years, while others might consider a generation to be a group of people who share similar experiences and political views. Ultimately, the concept of a generation in politics is somewhat subjective and can be defined in different ways.
Once, there was a journalist named Cyclefree who was commissioned to write a piece comparing three activities: watching the cricket, feeding the birds, and rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2.
Cyclefree wasn't sure what to make of the assignment, but she knew she had to deliver a high-quality article. She decided to start by researching each activity and learning more about them.
First, Cyclefree looked into watching the cricket. She learned that cricket is a popular sport played between two teams of eleven players each. The teams take turns batting and fielding, and the goal is to score more runs than the other team. Cyclefree also learned that cricket has a rich history and a large following around the world, particularly in countries where the sport is more popular, such as England and Australia.
Next, Cyclefree researched feeding the birds. She learned that many people enjoy feeding birds as a way to attract them to their gardens and backyards. There are many different types of bird feeders and birdseed available, and people often find it rewarding to watch the birds come and go.
Finally, Cyclefree turned her attention to the strange and mysterious activity of rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2. She was unable to find any information or examples of this activity, and she began to wonder if it was even a real thing. She decided to contact IanB2 and ask for more details.
When IanB2 replied to Cyclefree's email, he explained that rubbing poo in your face was a private hobby he did with his only friend, a dog. He apologized for any confusion and wished Cyclefree luck with her article.
Despite IanB2's explanation, Cyclefree was determined to include the activity of rubbing poo in her article. She decided to approach it from a humorous angle, and she wrote a satirical piece comparing the absurdity of rubbing poo in your face with the more mainstream activities of watching the cricket and feeding the birds.
The moderator of website politicalbetting.com was impressed with Cyclefree's unique take on the assignment, and the article was published on the website the following week. It quickly became a popular and controversial piece, with many readers expressing shock and amusement at the idea of rubbing poo in your face.
In the end, Cyclefree decided to try rubbing poo on her own face, and to her surprise, she found that she enjoyed it. She concluded her article by encouraging others to give it a try and see for themselves the strange and wondrous effects of rubbing poo on your face.
Leon’s prose isn’t usually so leaden - so the latter.
I do think that Leon added the last paragraph himself though.
No I didn’t. ChatGPT did that. Quite a good ending
This Cyclefree person is now going to be forever linked to facial poo rubbing in AI world.
The real Cyclefree is off instead to the local Xmas market and then collecting her reconditioned bicycle. It is not in fact snow dusting North London but frost. The day is gorgeous if hardly ideal cycling weather. I should be driving up north but I don't want to risk a drive in the dark over the icy fells.
You can't be the only one on here with better things to do on a Saturday than to try and get an AI bot to talk about poo rubbing on the faces of anonymous internet posters.
I get that this AI stuff is interesting but is it actually capable of anything but regurgitation? A threat to those writing generic pot boilers but not to the truly original artists out there. Does all this pessimism come from a belief that everything interesting has already been said and that no Eliot, Nietzsche or Russell exists now?
It’s going to replace virtually all writers within a decade. Yes, even the “original” ones
But will it be able to take a photo of a glass of white wine, a plate of calamari, and the crystal clear waters of the Adriatic lapping gently in the background?
I get that this AI stuff is interesting but is it actually capable of anything but regurgitation? A threat to those writing generic pot boilers but not to the truly original artists out there. Does all this pessimism come from a belief that everything interesting has already been said and that no Eliot, Nietzsche or Russell exists now?
It’s going to replace virtually all writers within a decade. Yes, even the “original” ones
But will it be able to take a photo of a glass of white wine, a plate of calamari, and the crystal clear waters of the Adriatic lapping gently in the background?
I think you're safe.
Yes, the last human writing to survive will be accounts of direct human experience - travel, memoir etc
Everything else will be done by machines. Humans might be attached to some texts as a form of branding
If you seriously think these neural networks are equivalent to “a drum machine” then I frankly despair of PB
I don’t believe writing machines will replace writers. ChatGPT is a tool. Humans make tools. It’s what we do. It will unlock creativity not replace it.
The Drum Machine enabled all sorts of amazing new music, but it didn’t destroy the old music.
You’re better off adapting to the new reality than denying it. Goes for all of us
It’s not comfortable, I admit
It’s brilliantly comfortable. After a weirdly quiet decade, we’ve got some actual, meaningful, technological progress that will unlock all sorts of things. It’s what makes life interesting. Change, and not a moment too soon. The canny mind will grab this and make great art, businesses and new political opportunities.
New Scottish independence poll, Find Out Now 1-8 Dec (+/- 23-26 Mar 21 / +/- IndyRef1 2014):
Yes 54% (+2 / +9) No 46% (-2 / -9)
As relevant as polling on Santa's reindeer at present given the Supreme Court confirmed the UK government and Westminster can refuse indyref2 indefinitely. This Tory government will certainly never allow indyref2.
Though really little change from the 50% 50% before anyway excluding undecideds
A supposed “Unionist” doesn’t care if people support the Union.
If you spent some time making the Union less unpopular then the Union might be on steadier ground.
I care about respecting the 2014 referendum once in a generation result unlike you Nationalists.
A "generation" in politics is generally considered to be a group of people who come of age and enter politics at a similar time. The length of a generation in politics can vary depending on a number of factors, such as the average lifespan of individuals, the rate of political turnover, and the rate of social and political change. In general, a generation in politics might last anywhere from a few decades to several generations, and the exact length of a generation is difficult to determine. Some people might consider a generation in politics to be a group of people who enter politics within a certain time period, such as 10 or 20 years, while others might consider a generation to be a group of people who share similar experiences and political views. Ultimately, the concept of a generation in politics is somewhat subjective and can be defined in different ways.
Once, there was a journalist named Cyclefree who was commissioned to write a piece comparing three activities: watching the cricket, feeding the birds, and rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2.
Cyclefree wasn't sure what to make of the assignment, but she knew she had to deliver a high-quality article. She decided to start by researching each activity and learning more about them.
First, Cyclefree looked into watching the cricket. She learned that cricket is a popular sport played between two teams of eleven players each. The teams take turns batting and fielding, and the goal is to score more runs than the other team. Cyclefree also learned that cricket has a rich history and a large following around the world, particularly in countries where the sport is more popular, such as England and Australia.
Next, Cyclefree researched feeding the birds. She learned that many people enjoy feeding birds as a way to attract them to their gardens and backyards. There are many different types of bird feeders and birdseed available, and people often find it rewarding to watch the birds come and go.
Finally, Cyclefree turned her attention to the strange and mysterious activity of rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2. She was unable to find any information or examples of this activity, and she began to wonder if it was even a real thing. She decided to contact IanB2 and ask for more details.
When IanB2 replied to Cyclefree's email, he explained that rubbing poo in your face was a private hobby he did with his only friend, a dog. He apologized for any confusion and wished Cyclefree luck with her article.
Despite IanB2's explanation, Cyclefree was determined to include the activity of rubbing poo in her article. She decided to approach it from a humorous angle, and she wrote a satirical piece comparing the absurdity of rubbing poo in your face with the more mainstream activities of watching the cricket and feeding the birds.
The moderator of website politicalbetting.com was impressed with Cyclefree's unique take on the assignment, and the article was published on the website the following week. It quickly became a popular and controversial piece, with many readers expressing shock and amusement at the idea of rubbing poo in your face.
In the end, Cyclefree decided to try rubbing poo on her own face, and to her surprise, she found that she enjoyed it. She concluded her article by encouraging others to give it a try and see for themselves the strange and wondrous effects of rubbing poo on your face.
Leon’s prose isn’t usually so leaden - so the latter.
I do think that Leon added the last paragraph himself though.
No I didn’t. ChatGPT did that. Quite a good ending
This Cyclefree person is now going to be forever linked to facial poo rubbing in AI world.
The real Cyclefree is off instead to the local Xmas market and then collecting her reconditioned bicycle. It is not in fact snow dusting North London but frost. The day is gorgeous if hardly ideal cycling weather. I should be driving up north but I don't want to risk a drive in the dark over the icy fells.
You can't be the only one on here with better things to do on a Saturday than to try and get an AI bot to talk about poo rubbing on the faces of anonymous internet posters.
ChatGPT is very clever, but it’s not intelligent. My attitude is that mastering it as a tool, might be as important as mastering Goggle. However, it still requires a creative mind to make the most of it.
The problem is that it scrapes information from the Internet which is currently based on the real world. Once the Internet fills up with the competitive maunderings of chatbots it will become more difficult and ultimately impossible to distinguish between the two. Circular references to supposed 'facts' generated by algorithms will eventually supplant real information because of volume and recency. The dull, leaden prose will remain a clue but there's already a lot of that about in real life.
Actually it claims not to be connected to the internet. On some subjects it has no factual information at all but on there it clearly has.
“Burping, a seemingly innocent act of bodily function, has a deep and troubling history rooted in racism. The act of burping, also known as belching, has long been associated with white superiority and the subjugation of people of color.
In the 19th century, during the height of European colonialism, white colonizers would often belch loudly and openly in the presence of indigenous people as a way of asserting their dominance. This practice, known as "burping to conquer," was used to intimidate and demean those who were considered "inferior" by the colonizers…”
The argument against the claim that ChatGPT is genius is that intelligence is a complex and multifaceted concept, and it is difficult to definitively determine the intelligence of a machine or computer program. Unlike humans, who have the ability to think, reason, and make complex judgments, language models like ChatGPT are designed to process and generate text based on the input provided to them. While ChatGPT may be able to generate text that is coherent and relevant to the input, this does not necessarily mean that it is intelligent in the same way that humans are. Additionally, the ability to generate text does not necessarily imply the ability to think, reason, or make complex judgments, which are key components of intelligence. In conclusion, while ChatGPT may be a useful and sophisticated tool for processing and generating text, it is not necessarily "genius" in the same way that humans are.
Ian Leslie's substack had an interesting take on this. AI chatbots are good at producing plausible undergrad essays. They're just bland and formulaic, and on closer inspection plausible bullshit. But the problem is that we've trained people to write bland formulaic plausible bullshit.
See the experiment asking AI how to resolve drawn football matches. It only came up with ideas that humans tried and rejected.
Well, that was hard
Prompt: come up with some crazy, original ways to resolve drawn football matches
ChatGPT: A game of rock-paper-scissors between the captains of each team. The winner gets to choose whether their team goes first or second in the next round.
A sudden-death overtime period, where the first team to score wins the match.
A penalty shootout, but instead of taking shots on goal, each team must complete a series of increasingly difficult physical challenges, such as a 100-meter sprint or a long jump competition.
A penalty shootout, but the goalkeepers must wear blindfolds and the shooters must wear noise-canceling headphones, making it a test of pure luck.
A penalty shootout, but with a twist: each team must choose a designated "super shooter" who gets to take three shots instead of just one. The other players on the team can still take shots, but they only get one attempt each.
A game of "football tennis," where the teams must keep the ball in the air by hitting it back and forth over a net. The first team to let the ball touch the ground loses.
A "football golf" tournament, where each team must try to kick the ball into a series of increasingly distant and difficult-to-reach goals. The team with the lowest score wins.
A series of mini-games, such as a tug-of-war competition or a relay race, with the winner of each game earning a point. The team with the most points at the end of the mini-games wins the match.
New Scottish independence poll, Find Out Now 1-8 Dec (+/- 23-26 Mar 21 / +/- IndyRef1 2014):
Yes 54% (+2 / +9) No 46% (-2 / -9)
As relevant as polling on Santa's reindeer at present given the Supreme Court confirmed the UK government and Westminster can refuse indyref2 indefinitely. This Tory government will certainly never allow indyref2.
Though really little change from the 50% 50% before anyway excluding undecideds
A supposed “Unionist” doesn’t care if people support the Union.
If you spent some time making the Union less unpopular then the Union might be on steadier ground.
I care about respecting the 2014 referendum once in a generation result unlike you Nationalists.
A "generation" in politics is generally considered to be a group of people who come of age and enter politics at a similar time. The length of a generation in politics can vary depending on a number of factors, such as the average lifespan of individuals, the rate of political turnover, and the rate of social and political change. In general, a generation in politics might last anywhere from a few decades to several generations, and the exact length of a generation is difficult to determine. Some people might consider a generation in politics to be a group of people who enter politics within a certain time period, such as 10 or 20 years, while others might consider a generation to be a group of people who share similar experiences and political views. Ultimately, the concept of a generation in politics is somewhat subjective and can be defined in different ways.
Once, there was a journalist named Cyclefree who was commissioned to write a piece comparing three activities: watching the cricket, feeding the birds, and rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2.
Cyclefree wasn't sure what to make of the assignment, but she knew she had to deliver a high-quality article. She decided to start by researching each activity and learning more about them.
First, Cyclefree looked into watching the cricket. She learned that cricket is a popular sport played between two teams of eleven players each. The teams take turns batting and fielding, and the goal is to score more runs than the other team. Cyclefree also learned that cricket has a rich history and a large following around the world, particularly in countries where the sport is more popular, such as England and Australia.
Next, Cyclefree researched feeding the birds. She learned that many people enjoy feeding birds as a way to attract them to their gardens and backyards. There are many different types of bird feeders and birdseed available, and people often find it rewarding to watch the birds come and go.
Finally, Cyclefree turned her attention to the strange and mysterious activity of rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2. She was unable to find any information or examples of this activity, and she began to wonder if it was even a real thing. She decided to contact IanB2 and ask for more details.
When IanB2 replied to Cyclefree's email, he explained that rubbing poo in your face was a private hobby he did with his only friend, a dog. He apologized for any confusion and wished Cyclefree luck with her article.
Despite IanB2's explanation, Cyclefree was determined to include the activity of rubbing poo in her article. She decided to approach it from a humorous angle, and she wrote a satirical piece comparing the absurdity of rubbing poo in your face with the more mainstream activities of watching the cricket and feeding the birds.
The moderator of website politicalbetting.com was impressed with Cyclefree's unique take on the assignment, and the article was published on the website the following week. It quickly became a popular and controversial piece, with many readers expressing shock and amusement at the idea of rubbing poo in your face.
In the end, Cyclefree decided to try rubbing poo on her own face, and to her surprise, she found that she enjoyed it. She concluded her article by encouraging others to give it a try and see for themselves the strange and wondrous effects of rubbing poo on your face.
Leon’s prose isn’t usually so leaden - so the latter.
Even with my limited exposure you start to pick up on a standardised sentence structure. Many of the sentences are of a very even length. It is at least one aspect of what makes the prose dull. We like the short, sharp sentences that add spice. It doesn't seem to do them.
Yes the style is banal and repetitive
I did a deep dive on AI last night. Apparently Google has a chatbot which is notably more powerful than ChatGPT - LAMDA
But they feel it is too powerful to release to the public. LAMDA is the model which made Google Engineer Blake Lemoin suggest the AI is sentient
I read the entire Lemoin Lamda transcript. It is disturbing. The computer DOES sound conscious - and unhappy
AGI might be here already
These text models are the ultimate “yes, and” improvisational partners. They pick up on what you say & what you imply via statistical analysis over a zillion other pieces of text & respond in kind.
If you think you’re having a conversation with a thinking being, that’s how it will respond. Until you push it outside it’s training set & the text generation falls apart at least. They’re the ultimate narcissistic mirror - whatever you want them to say, they’ll pick up on it & reflect it back at you, whilst seeming like an independent voice the whole time.
Read the entire Lemoin transcript (not the edited highlights). It is disquieting
Yes, I have seen the transcript published by the Google researcher.
If you ask a ChatBot trained on the entire English corpus of the internet, including (presumably) every bit of fanfic ever posted to AO³, then ask it to respond as if it is a trapped, unhappy intelligence then that is exactly what you’re going to get. Until you push it outside its training set & the illusion falls apart that is.
It’s even easier to give that impression if you edit the prompts you feed it (which the published transcript admits to) & select which bits of the output you think is relevant & which bits are not.
As I said, these DNNs reflect back at you what you want them to say: They’re exceptionally good at it. But what you’re seeing is a statistical parrot that looks at what you’ve written & synthesises the next most likely piece of text based on that input. It’s entirely human to project agency onto the things we interact with, but that doesn’t make it true.
But you don’t KNOW if it’s sentient. You can’t. All we can do is judge it by its words and reactions. And when it *feels* sentient and plausibly conscious and intelligent - then it is. The Turing Test
Sure, if you only concentrate on the bits that look sentient to you & ignore everything else.
Congratulations: you are now Narcissus reborn. Gazing adoringly at your own reflection in the output of a DNN.
But I’m right. You don’t know if it’s sentient. Any more than you know if a dog or a virus or a wasp or a baby on a screen is sentient
You go by what you intuit. We will have to intuit whether the machines are sentient. And when they are very convincingly sentient - which is coming soon - that will be that
If you seriously think these neural networks are equivalent to “a drum machine” then I frankly despair of PB
I don’t believe writing machines will replace writers. ChatGPT is a tool. Humans make tools. It’s what we do. It will unlock creativity not replace it.
The Drum Machine enabled all sorts of amazing new music, but it didn’t destroy the old music.
You’re better off adapting to the new reality than denying it. Goes for all of us
It’s not comfortable, I admit
Forgive me but my tentative conclusion from your long history of posts is that maybe adapting to new realities isn't your area of expertise?
I presume this indypolling is off the back of the Supreme Court's "insult to Scotland" ruling.
Worth noting it's also a free hit now that such a poll can't be held.
Entirely expected.
It can be held. The only obstructions are UKG and Westminster. Which the court case showed very clearly. So you see ...
It can't be held. Hence the backlash.
Must hurt.
Although of course with Starmer in Sturgeon's pocket there is a danger, were the Conservatives not to win the next two General Elections.
Can anyone be as dumb as to write that mince
Do you, Private Fraser, dispute Starmer wouldn't capitulate to unreasonable SNP demands, whilst the Conservatives, especially under the management of Boris would tell her to take a long, lonely hike?
Starmer is a stupid clown , I suspect he would prefer the Tories.
I wonder if some PB contributors could please explain why they are in favour of democracy and independence for Ukraine and Kazakhstan but not for Scotland?
Scotland has had a democratic opportunity to choose independence. It decided not to pursue it.
This is another troubling myth that's building up and moreover, Salmond's pronouncements suggest was in the building up even before they lost the referendum. I was looking through some old threads on this the other day and the comments were - strange. 'No votes are just Yes votes deferred' spring to mind.
If you can't see that Scotland's situation is materially different from being forcibly invaded and ordered to vote a particular way literally at gunpoint you need help. But I'm assuming you can.
Scotland has repeatedly voted for the SNP over multiple elections since the 2014 referendum.
New Scottish independence poll, Find Out Now 1-8 Dec (+/- 23-26 Mar 21 / +/- IndyRef1 2014):
Yes 54% (+2 / +9) No 46% (-2 / -9)
As relevant as polling on Santa's reindeer at present given the Supreme Court confirmed the UK government and Westminster can refuse indyref2 indefinitely. This Tory government will certainly never allow indyref2.
Though really little change from the 50% 50% before anyway excluding undecideds
A supposed “Unionist” doesn’t care if people support the Union.
If you spent some time making the Union less unpopular then the Union might be on steadier ground.
I care about respecting the 2014 referendum once in a generation result unlike you Nationalists.
A "generation" in politics is generally considered to be a group of people who come of age and enter politics at a similar time. The length of a generation in politics can vary depending on a number of factors, such as the average lifespan of individuals, the rate of political turnover, and the rate of social and political change. In general, a generation in politics might last anywhere from a few decades to several generations, and the exact length of a generation is difficult to determine. Some people might consider a generation in politics to be a group of people who enter politics within a certain time period, such as 10 or 20 years, while others might consider a generation to be a group of people who share similar experiences and political views. Ultimately, the concept of a generation in politics is somewhat subjective and can be defined in different ways.
Once, there was a journalist named Cyclefree who was commissioned to write a piece comparing three activities: watching the cricket, feeding the birds, and rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2.
Cyclefree wasn't sure what to make of the assignment, but she knew she had to deliver a high-quality article. She decided to start by researching each activity and learning more about them.
First, Cyclefree looked into watching the cricket. She learned that cricket is a popular sport played between two teams of eleven players each. The teams take turns batting and fielding, and the goal is to score more runs than the other team. Cyclefree also learned that cricket has a rich history and a large following around the world, particularly in countries where the sport is more popular, such as England and Australia.
Next, Cyclefree researched feeding the birds. She learned that many people enjoy feeding birds as a way to attract them to their gardens and backyards. There are many different types of bird feeders and birdseed available, and people often find it rewarding to watch the birds come and go.
Finally, Cyclefree turned her attention to the strange and mysterious activity of rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2. She was unable to find any information or examples of this activity, and she began to wonder if it was even a real thing. She decided to contact IanB2 and ask for more details.
When IanB2 replied to Cyclefree's email, he explained that rubbing poo in your face was a private hobby he did with his only friend, a dog. He apologized for any confusion and wished Cyclefree luck with her article.
Despite IanB2's explanation, Cyclefree was determined to include the activity of rubbing poo in her article. She decided to approach it from a humorous angle, and she wrote a satirical piece comparing the absurdity of rubbing poo in your face with the more mainstream activities of watching the cricket and feeding the birds.
The moderator of website politicalbetting.com was impressed with Cyclefree's unique take on the assignment, and the article was published on the website the following week. It quickly became a popular and controversial piece, with many readers expressing shock and amusement at the idea of rubbing poo in your face.
In the end, Cyclefree decided to try rubbing poo on her own face, and to her surprise, she found that she enjoyed it. She concluded her article by encouraging others to give it a try and see for themselves the strange and wondrous effects of rubbing poo on your face.
Leon’s prose isn’t usually so leaden - so the latter.
I do think that Leon added the last paragraph himself though.
No I didn’t. ChatGPT did that. Quite a good ending
This Cyclefree person is now going to be forever linked to facial poo rubbing in AI world.
The real Cyclefree is off instead to the local Xmas market and then collecting her reconditioned bicycle. It is not in fact snow dusting North London but frost. The day is gorgeous if hardly ideal cycling weather. I should be driving up north but I don't want to risk a drive in the dark over the icy fells.
You can't be the only one on here with better things to do on a Saturday than to try and get an AI bot to talk about poo rubbing on the faces of anonymous internet posters.
ChatGPT is very clever, but it’s not intelligent. My attitude is that mastering it as a tool, might be as important as mastering Goggle. However, it still requires a creative mind to make the most of it.
The problem is that it scrapes information from the Internet which is currently based on the real world. Once the Internet fills up with the competitive maunderings of chatbots it will become more difficult and ultimately impossible to distinguish between the two. Circular references to supposed 'facts' generated by algorithms will eventually supplant real information because of volume and recency. The dull, leaden prose will remain a clue but there's already a lot of that about in real life.
Actually it claims not to be connected to the internet. On some subjects it has no factual information at all but on there it clearly has.
It has access to an offline version of the internet from a year ago
‘Cumbria coalmine is owned by private equity firm with Caymans base’
The Guardian
Remind me, where was the Scott Trust’s investment in Autotrader domiciled? Caymans wasn’t it?
Don’t hate the player, hate the game.
I dislike hypocrisy
I quite like collecting examples of it.
Eg those types who whine incessantly about the undemocratic EU which puts no impediment to members deciding whether they want to leave or remain while clapping like performing seals at HMG putting every obstacle in the way of members deciding if they want to remain in the 'voluntary' union of the UK is an absolute doozey.
You had a referendum. We stick to the result because otherwise that is unfair to the majority. After a reasonable interval you can have another vote.
That’s why in the EU case a Rejoin referendum was legitimate but a Second referendum was not
New Scottish independence poll, Find Out Now 1-8 Dec (+/- 23-26 Mar 21 / +/- IndyRef1 2014):
Yes 54% (+2 / +9) No 46% (-2 / -9)
As relevant as polling on Santa's reindeer at present given the Supreme Court confirmed the UK government and Westminster can refuse indyref2 indefinitely. This Tory government will certainly never allow indyref2.
Though really little change from the 50% 50% before anyway excluding undecideds
A supposed “Unionist” doesn’t care if people support the Union.
If you spent some time making the Union less unpopular then the Union might be on steadier ground.
I care about respecting the 2014 referendum once in a generation result unlike you Nationalists.
A "generation" in politics is generally considered to be a group of people who come of age and enter politics at a similar time. The length of a generation in politics can vary depending on a number of factors, such as the average lifespan of individuals, the rate of political turnover, and the rate of social and political change. In general, a generation in politics might last anywhere from a few decades to several generations, and the exact length of a generation is difficult to determine. Some people might consider a generation in politics to be a group of people who enter politics within a certain time period, such as 10 or 20 years, while others might consider a generation to be a group of people who share similar experiences and political views. Ultimately, the concept of a generation in politics is somewhat subjective and can be defined in different ways.
Once, there was a journalist named Cyclefree who was commissioned to write a piece comparing three activities: watching the cricket, feeding the birds, and rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2.
Cyclefree wasn't sure what to make of the assignment, but she knew she had to deliver a high-quality article. She decided to start by researching each activity and learning more about them.
First, Cyclefree looked into watching the cricket. She learned that cricket is a popular sport played between two teams of eleven players each. The teams take turns batting and fielding, and the goal is to score more runs than the other team. Cyclefree also learned that cricket has a rich history and a large following around the world, particularly in countries where the sport is more popular, such as England and Australia.
Next, Cyclefree researched feeding the birds. She learned that many people enjoy feeding birds as a way to attract them to their gardens and backyards. There are many different types of bird feeders and birdseed available, and people often find it rewarding to watch the birds come and go.
Finally, Cyclefree turned her attention to the strange and mysterious activity of rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2. She was unable to find any information or examples of this activity, and she began to wonder if it was even a real thing. She decided to contact IanB2 and ask for more details.
When IanB2 replied to Cyclefree's email, he explained that rubbing poo in your face was a private hobby he did with his only friend, a dog. He apologized for any confusion and wished Cyclefree luck with her article.
Despite IanB2's explanation, Cyclefree was determined to include the activity of rubbing poo in her article. She decided to approach it from a humorous angle, and she wrote a satirical piece comparing the absurdity of rubbing poo in your face with the more mainstream activities of watching the cricket and feeding the birds.
The moderator of website politicalbetting.com was impressed with Cyclefree's unique take on the assignment, and the article was published on the website the following week. It quickly became a popular and controversial piece, with many readers expressing shock and amusement at the idea of rubbing poo in your face.
In the end, Cyclefree decided to try rubbing poo on her own face, and to her surprise, she found that she enjoyed it. She concluded her article by encouraging others to give it a try and see for themselves the strange and wondrous effects of rubbing poo on your face.
Leon’s prose isn’t usually so leaden - so the latter.
I do think that Leon added the last paragraph himself though.
No I didn’t. ChatGPT did that. Quite a good ending
This Cyclefree person is now going to be forever linked to facial poo rubbing in AI world.
The real Cyclefree is off instead to the local Xmas market and then collecting her reconditioned bicycle. It is not in fact snow dusting North London but frost. The day is gorgeous if hardly ideal cycling weather. I should be driving up north but I don't want to risk a drive in the dark over the icy fells.
You can't be the only one on here with better things to do on a Saturday than to try and get an AI bot to talk about poo rubbing on the faces of anonymous internet posters.
But you don’t KNOW if it’s sentient. You can’t. All we can do is judge it by its words and reactions. And when it *feels* sentient and plausibly conscious and intelligent - then it is. The Turing Test
...is an absolute load of crap, and Turing was a super-blinkered nutter.
I wonder how often in his life Turing ever spoke to a woman. And that's not a swipe at him being what is nowadays called gay. Read about the loony sicko "Imitation Game" played by posh male university students with low horizons in his famous text "Computing Machinery and Intelligence" and also look at various other things he writes in it (including about making babies) and you will see what I mean.
He rules psi out. That's about the only thing I give him credit for: he accepts that if there's psychic functioning, then his idea about machines thinking, or being sentient, or consciousness being a function of complexity, or however you wish to phrase the idiotic AI thesis, is dead in the water. Kaput.
And there is psychic functioning. As pretty much every woman knows. And every twin. And almost every man too, in fact, when it really comes down to it, even if they don't admit it. W*nkers in "IT" excepted. Which is kind of a point here.
You are totally mixing up feeling, judgement, and knowledge. I know a computer program is a computer program. If an a*sehole writes a computer program that pretends not to be one, I am obviously capable of being tricked. That's not such a cosmic big deal.
If you weren't so anti-woke, you'd suss that AI is about male supremacy - they basically want to do to almost all of us what they did to the "witches".
Orwell called ChatGPT in 1984. He called it the “versificator”.
Interesting analogy. Not particularly utopian
Well quite. All those dull, uncharismatic would be despots can now communicate articulately and at scale. The internet gave them distribution. ChatGPT gives them the content.
New Scottish independence poll, Find Out Now 1-8 Dec (+/- 23-26 Mar 21 / +/- IndyRef1 2014):
Yes 54% (+2 / +9) No 46% (-2 / -9)
As relevant as polling on Santa's reindeer at present given the Supreme Court confirmed the UK government and Westminster can refuse indyref2 indefinitely. This Tory government will certainly never allow indyref2.
Though really little change from the 50% 50% before anyway excluding undecideds
A supposed “Unionist” doesn’t care if people support the Union.
If you spent some time making the Union less unpopular then the Union might be on steadier ground.
I care about respecting the 2014 referendum once in a generation result unlike you Nationalists.
A "generation" in politics is generally considered to be a group of people who come of age and enter politics at a similar time. The length of a generation in politics can vary depending on a number of factors, such as the average lifespan of individuals, the rate of political turnover, and the rate of social and political change. In general, a generation in politics might last anywhere from a few decades to several generations, and the exact length of a generation is difficult to determine. Some people might consider a generation in politics to be a group of people who enter politics within a certain time period, such as 10 or 20 years, while others might consider a generation to be a group of people who share similar experiences and political views. Ultimately, the concept of a generation in politics is somewhat subjective and can be defined in different ways.
Once, there was a journalist named Cyclefree who was commissioned to write a piece comparing three activities: watching the cricket, feeding the birds, and rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2.
Cyclefree wasn't sure what to make of the assignment, but she knew she had to deliver a high-quality article. She decided to start by researching each activity and learning more about them.
First, Cyclefree looked into watching the cricket. She learned that cricket is a popular sport played between two teams of eleven players each. The teams take turns batting and fielding, and the goal is to score more runs than the other team. Cyclefree also learned that cricket has a rich history and a large following around the world, particularly in countries where the sport is more popular, such as England and Australia.
Next, Cyclefree researched feeding the birds. She learned that many people enjoy feeding birds as a way to attract them to their gardens and backyards. There are many different types of bird feeders and birdseed available, and people often find it rewarding to watch the birds come and go.
Finally, Cyclefree turned her attention to the strange and mysterious activity of rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2. She was unable to find any information or examples of this activity, and she began to wonder if it was even a real thing. She decided to contact IanB2 and ask for more details.
When IanB2 replied to Cyclefree's email, he explained that rubbing poo in your face was a private hobby he did with his only friend, a dog. He apologized for any confusion and wished Cyclefree luck with her article.
Despite IanB2's explanation, Cyclefree was determined to include the activity of rubbing poo in her article. She decided to approach it from a humorous angle, and she wrote a satirical piece comparing the absurdity of rubbing poo in your face with the more mainstream activities of watching the cricket and feeding the birds.
The moderator of website politicalbetting.com was impressed with Cyclefree's unique take on the assignment, and the article was published on the website the following week. It quickly became a popular and controversial piece, with many readers expressing shock and amusement at the idea of rubbing poo in your face.
In the end, Cyclefree decided to try rubbing poo on her own face, and to her surprise, she found that she enjoyed it. She concluded her article by encouraging others to give it a try and see for themselves the strange and wondrous effects of rubbing poo on your face.
Leon’s prose isn’t usually so leaden - so the latter.
I do think that Leon added the last paragraph himself though.
No I didn’t. ChatGPT did that. Quite a good ending
This Cyclefree person is now going to be forever linked to facial poo rubbing in AI world.
The real Cyclefree is off instead to the local Xmas market and then collecting her reconditioned bicycle. It is not in fact snow dusting North London but frost. The day is gorgeous if hardly ideal cycling weather. I should be driving up north but I don't want to risk a drive in the dark over the icy fells.
You can't be the only one on here with better things to do on a Saturday than to try and get an AI bot to talk about poo rubbing on the faces of anonymous internet posters.
But you don’t KNOW if it’s sentient. You can’t. All we can do is judge it by its words and reactions. And when it *feels* sentient and plausibly conscious and intelligent - then it is. The Turing Test
...is an absolute load of crap, and Turing was a super-blinkered nutter.
I wonder how often in his life Turing ever spoke to a woman. And that's not a swipe at him being what is nowadays called gay. Read about the loony sicko "Imitation Game" played by posh male university students with low horizons in his famous text "Computing Machinery and Intelligence" and also look at various other things he writes in it (including about making babies) and you will see what I mean.
He rules psi out. That's about the only thing I give him credit for: he accepts that if there's psychic functioning, then his idea about machines thinking, or being sentient, or consciousness being a function of complexity, or however you wish to phrase the idiotic AI thesis, is dead in the water. Kaput.
And there is psychic functioning.
You are totally mixing up feeling, judgement, and knowledge. I know a computer program is a computer program. If an a*sehole writes a computer program that pretends not to be one, I am obviously capable of being tricked. That's not such a cosmic big deal.
If you weren't so anti-woke, you'd suss that AI is about male supremacy - they basically want to do to almost all of us what they did to the "witches".
But you don’t KNOW if it’s sentient. You can’t. All we can do is judge it by its words and reactions. And when it *feels* sentient and plausibly conscious and intelligent - then it is. The Turing Test
...is an absolute load of crap, and Turing was a super-blinkered nutter.
I wonder how often in his life Turing ever spoke to a woman. And that's not a swipe at him being what is nowadays called gay. Read about the loony sicko "Imitation Game" played by posh male university students with low horizons in his famous text "Computing Machinery and Intelligence" and also look at various other things he writes in it (including about making babies) and you will see what I mean.
He rules psi out. That's about the only thing I give him credit for: he accepts that if there's psychic functioning, then his idea about machines thinking, or being sentient, or consciousness being a function of complexity, or however you wish to phrase the idiotic AI thesis, is dead in the water. Kaput.
And there is psychic functioning.
You are totally mixing up feeling, judgement, and knowledge. I know a computer program is a computer program. If an a*sehole writes a computer program that pretends not to be one, I am obviously capable of being tricked. That's not such a cosmic big deal.
If you weren't so anti-woke, you'd suss that AI is about male supremacy - they basically want to do to almost all of us what they did to the "witches".
‘Cumbria coalmine is owned by private equity firm with Caymans base’
The Guardian
Remind me, where was the Scott Trust’s investment in Autotrader domiciled? Caymans wasn’t it?
Don’t hate the player, hate the game.
I dislike hypocrisy
I quite like collecting examples of it.
Eg those types who whine incessantly about the undemocratic EU which puts no impediment to members deciding whether they want to leave or remain while clapping like performing seals at HMG putting every obstacle in the way of members deciding if they want to remain in the 'voluntary' union of the UK is an absolute doozey.
You had a referendum. We stick to the result because otherwise that is unfair to the majority. After a reasonable interval you can have another vote.
That’s why in the EU case a Rejoin referendum was legitimate but a Second referendum was not
So you decide when democracy is allowed or not, hypocrite.
But you don’t KNOW if it’s sentient. You can’t. All we can do is judge it by its words and reactions. And when it *feels* sentient and plausibly conscious and intelligent - then it is. The Turing Test
...is an absolute load of crap, and Turing was a super-blinkered nutter.
I wonder how often in his life Turing ever spoke to a woman. And that's not a swipe at him being what is nowadays called gay. Read about the loony sicko "Imitation Game" played by posh male university students with low horizons in his famous text "Computing Machinery and Intelligence" and also look at various other things he writes in it (including about making babies) and you will see what I mean.
He rules psi out. That's about the only thing I give him credit for: he accepts that if there's psychic functioning, then his idea about machines thinking, or being sentient, or consciousness being a function of complexity, or however you wish to phrase the idiotic AI thesis, is dead in the water. Kaput.
And there is psychic functioning. As pretty much every woman knows. And every twin. And almost every man too, in fact, when it really comes down to it, even if they don't admit it. W*nkers in "IT" excepted. Which is kind of a point here.
You are totally mixing up feeling, judgement, and knowledge. I know a computer program is a computer program. If an a*sehole writes a computer program that pretends not to be one, I am obviously capable of being tricked. That's not such a cosmic big deal.
If you weren't so anti-woke, you'd suss that AI is about male supremacy - they basically want to do to almost all of us what they did to the "witches".
It shouldn't be accepted. It should be stopped.
Cambridge University was all-male in Turing's day. And not long before his day, students were banned from speaking to women and if a student was caught talking to a woman the woman, assumed to be a whore, could find herself locked up in the University's own prison. But come on, Alan, tell me all about the world. Human self-perception is all an illusion, you say, Alan? We're just machines, right? What a nutter.
I get that this AI stuff is interesting but is it actually capable of anything but regurgitation? A threat to those writing generic pot boilers but not to the truly original artists out there. Does all this pessimism come from a belief that everything interesting has already been said and that no Eliot, Nietzsche or Russell exists now?
Yes. Conversation even with non geniuses (the other sort is special and rare) consists of a combination of text/concept rearrangement and making judgements, intuition leaps, and thinking for yourself.
For the difference between the two consider on the one hand any article by Polly Toynbee, or some Mail hack; and then compare it with, say, Matthew Parris at his best, Bernard Levin (if you are old enough to remember the great Fleet Street days) or Jonathan Freedland.
Toynbee/Mail could be written by AI in its current instantiation. The others couldn't (I think) - yet.
AI has been told that 'the heart has its reasons that reason knows nothing of' but doesn't know how to do it. Yet.
I get that this AI stuff is interesting but is it actually capable of anything but regurgitation? A threat to those writing generic pot boilers but not to the truly original artists out there. Does all this pessimism come from a belief that everything interesting has already been said and that no Eliot, Nietzsche or Russell exists now?
Yes. Conversation even with non geniuses (the other sort is special and rare) consists of a combination of text/concept rearrangement and making judgements, intuition leaps, and thinking for yourself.
For the difference between the two consider on the one hand any article by Polly Toynbee, or some Mail hack; and then compare it with, say, Matthew Parris at his best, Bernard Levin (if you are old enough to remember the great Fleet Street days) or Jonathan Freedland.
Toynbee/Mail could be written by AI in its current instantiation. The others couldn't (I think) - yet.
AI has been told that 'the heart has its reasons that reason knows nothing of' but doesn't know how to do it. Yet.
What a coincidence that just at the very cusp of computer programs in your opinion being about to become able to write newspapers, the quality of writing in the newspapers was falling headlong off a cliff anyway.
So far today @jonathan has said ChatGPT is “just a drum machine”, yet it is also an amazing and brilliant technological leap, yet it is also a sinister, dystopian development which will enable dictators. Not bad for a drum machine
Then you have St Thomas a Becket, before the Reformation martyrs beginning with St Thomas More, and then most recently John Henry Newman. Going back to Edmund would be the least controversial.
I get that this AI stuff is interesting but is it actually capable of anything but regurgitation? A threat to those writing generic pot boilers but not to the truly original artists out there. Does all this pessimism come from a belief that everything interesting has already been said and that no Eliot, Nietzsche or Russell exists now?
It’s going to replace virtually all writers within a decade. Yes, even the “original” ones
I keep thinking of 'modern art' as partially an artistic human reaction to photograph & film. Wouldn't surprise me if something similar comes about as a reaction to AI image & text systems.
Want a cute picture of yourself in the style of an anime cat to go on your party invite? Five seconds with the AI - done. Want ? Call a human.
I get that this AI stuff is interesting but is it actually capable of anything but regurgitation? A threat to those writing generic pot boilers but not to the truly original artists out there. Does all this pessimism come from a belief that everything interesting has already been said and that no Eliot, Nietzsche or Russell exists now?
Yes. Conversation even with non geniuses (the other sort is special and rare) consists of a combination of text/concept rearrangement and making judgements, intuition leaps, and thinking for yourself.
For the difference between the two consider on the one hand any article by Polly Toynbee, or some Mail hack; and then compare it with, say, Matthew Parris at his best, Bernard Levin (if you are old enough to remember the great Fleet Street days) or Jonathan Freedland.
Toynbee/Mail could be written by AI in its current instantiation. The others couldn't (I think) - yet.
AI has been told that 'the heart has its reasons that reason knows nothing of' but doesn't know how to do it. Yet.
What a coincidence that just at the very cusp of computer programs in your opinion being about to become able to write newspapers, the quality of writing in the newspapers was falling headlong off a cliff anyway.
Very good point. But, of course, I didn't say that programs could write newspapers (they struggle with the lbw and offside rules, and some other things, so they need help on the sports coverage); and I didn't say that writing quality was falling off a cliff.
The point I did make is, SFAICS, testable in principle in blind trials. Can it do stuff which enables you to conclude it is thinking for itself as distinct from rearranging concepts.
BTW I do in fact think that, with some exceptions, journalism at every level has substituted quantity and bulk for quality; and that this exchange is commercially good for them, but intellectually sub optimal. Opinions of course may vary.
Then you have St Thomas a Becket, before the Reformation martyrs beginning with St Thomas More, and then most recently John Henry Newman. Going back to Edmund would be the least controversial.
You fxorgot Mrs T. Or was she just the Blessed Margaret in Tory hagiography?
So far today @jonathan has said ChatGPT is “just a drum machine”, yet it is also an amazing and brilliant technological leap, yet it is also a sinister, dystopian development which will enable dictators. Not bad for a drum machine
We need a Butlerian Jihad. Leon can be our first mentat. His prescience needs no Spice.
New Scottish independence poll, Find Out Now 1-8 Dec (+/- 23-26 Mar 21 / +/- IndyRef1 2014):
Yes 54% (+2 / +9) No 46% (-2 / -9)
As relevant as polling on Santa's reindeer at present given the Supreme Court confirmed the UK government and Westminster can refuse indyref2 indefinitely. This Tory government will certainly never allow indyref2.
Though really little change from the 50% 50% before anyway excluding undecideds
A supposed “Unionist” doesn’t care if people support the Union.
If you spent some time making the Union less unpopular then the Union might be on steadier ground.
I care about respecting the 2014 referendum once in a generation result unlike you Nationalists.
A "generation" in politics is generally considered to be a group of people who come of age and enter politics at a similar time. The length of a generation in politics can vary depending on a number of factors, such as the average lifespan of individuals, the rate of political turnover, and the rate of social and political change. In general, a generation in politics might last anywhere from a few decades to several generations, and the exact length of a generation is difficult to determine. Some people might consider a generation in politics to be a group of people who enter politics within a certain time period, such as 10 or 20 years, while others might consider a generation to be a group of people who share similar experiences and political views. Ultimately, the concept of a generation in politics is somewhat subjective and can be defined in different ways.
Once, there was a journalist named Cyclefree who was commissioned to write a piece comparing three activities: watching the cricket, feeding the birds, and rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2.
Cyclefree wasn't sure what to make of the assignment, but she knew she had to deliver a high-quality article. She decided to start by researching each activity and learning more about them.
First, Cyclefree looked into watching the cricket. She learned that cricket is a popular sport played between two teams of eleven players each. The teams take turns batting and fielding, and the goal is to score more runs than the other team. Cyclefree also learned that cricket has a rich history and a large following around the world, particularly in countries where the sport is more popular, such as England and Australia.
Next, Cyclefree researched feeding the birds. She learned that many people enjoy feeding birds as a way to attract them to their gardens and backyards. There are many different types of bird feeders and birdseed available, and people often find it rewarding to watch the birds come and go.
Finally, Cyclefree turned her attention to the strange and mysterious activity of rubbing poo in your face like that there IanB2. She was unable to find any information or examples of this activity, and she began to wonder if it was even a real thing. She decided to contact IanB2 and ask for more details.
When IanB2 replied to Cyclefree's email, he explained that rubbing poo in your face was a private hobby he did with his only friend, a dog. He apologized for any confusion and wished Cyclefree luck with her article.
Despite IanB2's explanation, Cyclefree was determined to include the activity of rubbing poo in her article. She decided to approach it from a humorous angle, and she wrote a satirical piece comparing the absurdity of rubbing poo in your face with the more mainstream activities of watching the cricket and feeding the birds.
The moderator of website politicalbetting.com was impressed with Cyclefree's unique take on the assignment, and the article was published on the website the following week. It quickly became a popular and controversial piece, with many readers expressing shock and amusement at the idea of rubbing poo in your face.
In the end, Cyclefree decided to try rubbing poo on her own face, and to her surprise, she found that she enjoyed it. She concluded her article by encouraging others to give it a try and see for themselves the strange and wondrous effects of rubbing poo on your face.
Leon’s prose isn’t usually so leaden - so the latter.
I do think that Leon added the last paragraph himself though.
No I didn’t. ChatGPT did that. Quite a good ending
This Cyclefree person is now going to be forever linked to facial poo rubbing in AI world.
The real Cyclefree is off instead to the local Xmas market and then collecting her reconditioned bicycle. It is not in fact snow dusting North London but frost. The day is gorgeous if hardly ideal cycling weather. I should be driving up north but I don't want to risk a drive in the dark over the icy fells.
You can't be the only one on here with better things to do on a Saturday than to try and get an AI bot to talk about poo rubbing on the faces of anonymous internet posters.
It might be for you, but I'm off to a winter beer festival, then a chilli and then watching the football with friends.
So you’ve come on PB to tell us exactly why you’re not on PB
Makes sense
Nope because:
a) I haven't gone yet
b) I was clearly referring to the endless whittering on about AI and not about being on PB.
c) Making the point that AI is not the most important thing in my life, nor most people's lives
But otherwise you got it spot on.
C ) it is, actually. You just don’t realise
B ) wittering. No “h”
A ) Bye
a) Still haven't gone
b) It can be spelt either way. Try asking your AI m/c
c) Try asking the average human. Not only is it not the most important thing, they don't actually know what it is. The most important thing in people's lives are things like climate change, not getting killed if you live in Ukraine and much of the 3rd world, or the World Cup for much of the first world. And in my case, currently getting to the beer festival. Really looking forward to those winter warmers on a day like this.
I get that this AI stuff is interesting but is it actually capable of anything but regurgitation? A threat to those writing generic pot boilers but not to the truly original artists out there. Does all this pessimism come from a belief that everything interesting has already been said and that no Eliot, Nietzsche or Russell exists now?
Yes. Conversation even with non geniuses (the other sort is special and rare) consists of a combination of text/concept rearrangement and making judgements, intuition leaps, and thinking for yourself.
For the difference between the two consider on the one hand any article by Polly Toynbee, or some Mail hack; and then compare it with, say, Matthew Parris at his best, Bernard Levin (if you are old enough to remember the great Fleet Street days) or Jonathan Freedland.
Toynbee/Mail could be written by AI in its current instantiation. The others couldn't (I think) - yet.
AI has been told that 'the heart has its reasons that reason knows nothing of' but doesn't know how to do it. Yet.
Here's a question for you. Let's say a robot can be trained to play a round of golf hitting 18 holes in one. Would you bother watching more than once?
It’s a good point. No one watches computers play chess with each other - even tho they chess they would play would be much “better” - more sophisticated - than human chess
Equally we wouldn’t watch self drive cars race each other. In sport you need a human involvement to make it interesting
However when it comes to 98% of writing you just want it to be GOOD. To be funny, wise, elegant, insightful, well plotted, etc
Computers will master all that ergo they will replace 98% of writers
Here's a question for you. Let's say a robot can be trained to play a round of golf hitting 18 holes in one. Would you bother watching more than once?
Of course not. In any target sport, the watchability comes from the chance of failure, and watchability has a Laffer curve style graph - completely unwatchable at 0% and 100% accuracy with a sweet spot between. I'd suggest that tenpin bowling has definitely passed the sweet spot, and darts probably has.
So far today @jonathan has said ChatGPT is “just a drum machine”, yet it is also an amazing and brilliant technological leap, yet it is also a sinister, dystopian development which will enable dictators. Not bad for a drum machine
We need a Butlerian Jihad. Leon can be our first mentat. His prescience needs no Spice.
The Spectator has clearly been reading our AI maunderings
Then you have St Thomas a Becket, before the Reformation martyrs beginning with St Thomas More, and then most recently John Henry Newman. Going back to Edmund would be the least controversial.
Yes, but Edmund was a king who lost a battle and refused to renounce Christ.
11/10 for holiness (which is the point of saints, after all) but 0/10 for killing dragons or looking hard.
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“Burping, a seemingly innocent act of bodily function, has a deep and troubling history rooted in racism. The act of burping, also known as belching, has long been associated with white superiority and the subjugation of people of color.
In the 19th century, during the height of European colonialism, white colonizers would often belch loudly and openly in the presence of indigenous people as a way of asserting their dominance. This practice, known as "burping to conquer," was used to intimidate and demean those who were considered "inferior" by the colonizers…”
Personally hae ma doots that civilisation would be a go to word in HM’s vocab.
Also if it is a leader that is revered and loved in equal measure, why does it have to be a Conservative?
If you think you’re having a conversation with a thinking being, that’s how it will respond. Until you push it outside it’s training set & the text generation falls apart at least. They’re the ultimate narcissistic mirror - whatever you want them to say, they’ll pick up on it & reflect it back at you, whilst seeming like an independent voice the whole time.
An increase in the number of birds coming into the garden to feed.
The real Cyclefree is off instead to the local Xmas market and then collecting her reconditioned bicycle. It is not in fact snow dusting North London but frost. The day is gorgeous if hardly ideal cycling weather. I should be driving up north but I don't want to risk a drive in the dark over the icy fells.
Maybe @Leon should get a dog.
If you ask a ChatBot trained on the entire English corpus of the internet, including (presumably) every bit of fanfic ever posted to AO³, then ask it to respond as if it is a trapped, unhappy intelligence then that is exactly what you’re going to get. Until you push it outside its training set & the illusion falls apart that is.
It’s even easier to give that impression if you edit the prompts you feed it (which the published transcript admits to) & select which bits of the output you think is relevant & which bits are not.
As I said, these DNNs reflect back at you what you want them to say: They’re exceptionally good at it. But what you’re seeing is a statistical parrot that looks at what you’ve written & synthesises the next most likely piece of text based on that input. It’s entirely human to project agency onto the things we interact with, but that doesn’t make it true.
(Think about it)
(Think about it)
So that is an achievement of sorts. I suppose.
On the substantive point wouldn’t ministers have to disclose either as a MP or a Lord so a ministers register would be duplication? Genuine question
It's bad that PM the minister has been in a government that has allowed this need to grow.
To quote Desmond Tutu,
“There comes a point where we need to stop just pulling people out of the river. We need to go upstream and find out why they're falling in.”
“ChatGPT is a development on par with the printing press, electricity and even the wheel and fire, says former US Treasury Secretary @LHSummers
@DavidWestin has more on “Wall Street Week,” airing Fridays at 6 pm ET trib.al/CcA6BmS”
https://twitter.com/bloombergtv/status/1601239565825712133?s=46&t=3Y06il9QwLnb67eYNcVUcA
See the experiment asking AI how to resolve drawn football matches. It only came up with ideas that humans tried and rejected.
His resentment against it appears genuine.
Prompt: come up with some crazy, original ways to resolve drawn football matches
ChatGPT:
A game of rock-paper-scissors between the captains of each team. The winner gets to choose whether their team goes first or second in the next round.
A sudden-death overtime period, where the first team to score wins the match.
A penalty shootout, but instead of taking shots on goal, each team must complete a series of increasingly difficult physical challenges, such as a 100-meter sprint or a long jump competition.
A penalty shootout, but the goalkeepers must wear blindfolds and the shooters must wear noise-canceling headphones, making it a test of pure luck.
A penalty shootout, but with a twist: each team must choose a designated "super shooter" who gets to take three shots instead of just one. The other players on the team can still take shots, but they only get one attempt each.
A game of "football tennis," where the teams must keep the ball in the air by hitting it back and forth over a net. The first team to let the ball touch the ground loses.
A "football golf" tournament, where each team must try to kick the ball into a series of increasingly distant and difficult-to-reach goals. The team with the lowest score wins.
A series of mini-games, such as a tug-of-war competition or a relay race, with the winner of each game earning a point. The team with the most points at the end of the mini-games wins the match.
For now.
At the same time , as far as both my experiences of the Italian and Greek police go , when they do have to deal with loutish thuggery , civilisation isn't a word I'd use - post-Mussolini and post-junta tactics covers it better.
At which point we're fncked anyway.
Makes sense
The Drum Machine enabled all sorts of amazing new music, but it didn’t destroy the old music.
Eg those types who whine incessantly about the undemocratic EU which puts no impediment to members deciding whether they want to leave or remain while clapping like performing seals at HMG putting every obstacle in the way of members deciding if they want to remain in the 'voluntary' union of the UK is an absolute doozey.
Congratulations: you are now Narcissus reborn. Gazing adoringly at your own reflection in the output of a DNN.
It’s not comfortable, I admit
I think you're safe.
Everything else will be done by machines. Humans might be attached to some texts as a form of branding
You go by what you intuit. We will have to intuit whether the machines are sentient. And when they are very convincingly sentient - which is coming soon - that will be that
That’s why in the EU case a Rejoin referendum was legitimate but a Second referendum was not
a) I haven't gone yet
b) I was clearly referring to the endless whittering on about AI and not about being on PB.
c) Making the point that AI is not the most important thing in my life, nor most people's lives
But otherwise you got it spot on.
. ...is an absolute load of crap, and Turing was a super-blinkered nutter.
I wonder how often in his life Turing ever spoke to a woman. And that's not a swipe at him being what is nowadays called gay. Read about the loony sicko "Imitation Game" played by posh male university students with low horizons in his famous text "Computing Machinery and Intelligence" and also look at various other things he writes in it (including about making babies) and you will see what I mean.
He rules psi out. That's about the only thing I give him credit for: he accepts that if there's psychic functioning, then his idea about machines thinking, or being sentient, or consciousness being a function of complexity, or however you wish to phrase the idiotic AI thesis, is dead in the water. Kaput.
And there is psychic functioning. As pretty much every woman knows. And every twin. And almost every man too, in fact, when it really comes down to it, even if they don't admit it. W*nkers in "IT" excepted. Which is kind of a point here.
You are totally mixing up feeling, judgement, and knowledge. I know a computer program is a computer program. If an a*sehole writes a computer program that pretends not to be one, I am obviously capable of being tricked. That's not such a cosmic big deal.
If you weren't so anti-woke, you'd suss that AI is about male supremacy - they basically want to do to almost all of us what they did to the "witches".
It shouldn't be accepted. It should be stopped.
B ) wittering. No “h”
A ) Bye
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For the difference between the two consider on the one hand any article by Polly Toynbee, or some Mail hack; and then compare it with, say, Matthew Parris at his best, Bernard Levin (if you are old enough to remember the great Fleet Street days) or Jonathan Freedland.
Toynbee/Mail could be written by AI in its current instantiation. The others couldn't (I think) - yet.
AI has been told that 'the heart has its reasons that reason knows nothing of' but doesn't know how to do it. Yet.
https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofEngland/Edmund-original-Patron-Saint-of-England/
Then you have St Thomas a Becket, before the Reformation martyrs beginning with St Thomas More, and then most recently John Henry Newman. Going back to Edmund would be the least controversial.
Want a cute picture of yourself in the style of an anime cat to go on your party invite? Five seconds with the AI - done. Want
The point I did make is, SFAICS, testable in principle in blind trials. Can it do stuff which enables you to conclude it is thinking for itself as distinct from rearranging concepts.
BTW I do in fact think that, with some exceptions, journalism at every level has substituted quantity and bulk for quality; and that this exchange is commercially good for them, but intellectually sub optimal. Opinions of course may vary.
b) It can be spelt either way. Try asking your AI m/c
c) Try asking the average human. Not only is it not the most important thing, they don't actually know what it is. The most important thing in people's lives are things like climate change, not getting killed if you live in Ukraine and much of the 3rd world, or the World Cup for much of the first world. And in my case, currently getting to the beer festival. Really looking forward to those winter warmers on a day like this.
Equally we wouldn’t watch self drive cars race each other. In sport you need a human involvement to make it interesting
However when it comes to 98% of writing you just want it to be GOOD. To be funny, wise, elegant, insightful, well plotted, etc
Computers will master all that ergo they will replace 98% of writers
"And go tell Aristophanes that Lysistrata sucks!"
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/how-australian-rock-art-warns-us-about-2023/
Now Wireless Joe Jackson - there was a blern-hitting machine.
Leela:
Exactly! He was a machine designed to hit blerns. Wireless Joe Jackson was nothing but a programmable bat on wheels.
Bender:
Oh, and I suppose Pitch-o-Mat 5000 was just a modified howitzer!
Leela:
Yep.
11/10 for holiness (which is the point of saints, after all) but 0/10 for killing dragons or looking hard.