Enjoyed the England game in our local - they were blasting out Three Lions after the game although the publican said if it was up to him they'd be playing IRA songs. That's the beauty of an Irish pub in London I suppose. A great game setting up what promises to be a cracking quarter final match with France. I think the French have the edge but only just. England could still go all the way, although I almost hope they don't as we've stupidly scheduled a long haul flight during the final. This is turning into a really good World Cup.
Irish immigrants are some of the worse for integration in the country. Imagine moving to another country, buying property there, it providing you with a livelihood, and you still hate it so much you support a terrorist group that kills its civilians.
Don’t grasp how people can make these scheduling fuck ups. Just download the fixtures to your phone calendar and you never make a mistake like that again
Enjoyed the England game in our local - they were blasting out Three Lions after the game although the publican said if it was up to him they'd be playing IRA songs. That's the beauty of an Irish pub in London I suppose. A great game setting up what promises to be a cracking quarter final match with France. I think the French have the edge but only just. England could still go all the way, although I almost hope they don't as we've stupidly scheduled a long haul flight during the final. This is turning into a really good World Cup.
Our local is handily close enough to hear the crowd reactions about a minute (or in tonight’s case 3 minutes) before our streaming service catches up with the live action.
So the Wickham Arms roar confirmed we’d scored the second and third, and all I needed to do was watch how they unfolded.
I’m guessing your local might be Skehans given the combination of geography, propensity to show live sport and Irishness?
Also, why should Gordo support England? Fair play to him if he wanted us to lose
As he is a Unionist not SNP
Do Scots who are neither Unionist or SNP have permission not to support England, or will you send the granny bashers round?
Personally as I said earlier I would rather we just had one Team GB and NI as we had at the Olympics in the World Cup, we would also be more likely to win it.
Well that’s just silly. We play as separate nations in pretty much all the major team sports and that’s an important part of the home nations’ identity
We don't at the Olympics, or as the British Lions in rugby or in the GB Davis Cup team at tennis, in F1 riders race as British, even the England cricket team is technically England and Wales not England alone.
I know it will never happen at the World Cup or Euros but I hope we have a GB football team again at the next Olympics
Enjoyed the England game in our local - they were blasting out Three Lions after the game although the publican said if it was up to him they'd be playing IRA songs. That's the beauty of an Irish pub in London I suppose. A great game setting up what promises to be a cracking quarter final match with France. I think the French have the edge but only just. England could still go all the way, although I almost hope they don't as we've stupidly scheduled a long haul flight during the final. This is turning into a really good World Cup.
Irish immigrants are some of the worse for integration in the country. Imagine moving to another country, buying property there, it providing you with a livelihood, and you still hate it so much you support a terrorist group that kills its civilians.
There's about 12 million English people of partly Irish descent, I remember reading somewhere. That speaks to a pretty good record of integration.
Enjoyed the England game in our local - they were blasting out Three Lions after the game although the publican said if it was up to him they'd be playing IRA songs. That's the beauty of an Irish pub in London I suppose. A great game setting up what promises to be a cracking quarter final match with France. I think the French have the edge but only just. England could still go all the way, although I almost hope they don't as we've stupidly scheduled a long haul flight during the final. This is turning into a really good World Cup.
Our local is handily close enough to hear the crowd reactions about a minute (or in tonight’s case 3 minutes) before our streaming service catches up with the live action.
So the Wickham Arms roar confirmed we’d scored the second and third, and all I needed to do was watch how they unfolded.
I’m guessing your local might be Skehans given the combination of geography, propensity to show live sport and Irishness?
That just ruins the experience though. Why not just watch it on telly? We avoided using streaming at our local club for exactly that reason. It’s miles behind
Re the resignation of the Head of the IOPC, nothing surprises me anymore about the police.
I applied to be on their governing Board a couple of years ago. Unsurprisingly this went nowhere.
Most of these bodies are created to provide jobs for all the useless senior policemen they want to kick upstairs. I did one investigation involving a former Head of a force in the Lords who was flogging access to dodgy Russians and fronting up their dubious companies.
By the way I was reflecting on the discussion a few weeks back about Sunday afternoon pub tracks so I asked ChatGPT. After a couple of false starts with American fall stuff I got him/her on side.
Me: what about Babylon by David Gray? AI: "Babylon" by David Gray is a great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. The lyrics, which describe a longing for a simpler time and place, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Babylon" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1990s music.
Me: I agree. What do you think about Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty? Similar vibe?
AI: "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty is another great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. Released in 1978, this classic rock song has a warm and mellow sound that is perfect for a cozy pub setting. The saxophone solo in the middle of the song is particularly memorable and adds to the song's nostalgic feel. The lyrics, which describe a man who is lost and searching for direction, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Baker Street" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1970s music.
Enjoyed the England game in our local - they were blasting out Three Lions after the game although the publican said if it was up to him they'd be playing IRA songs. That's the beauty of an Irish pub in London I suppose. A great game setting up what promises to be a cracking quarter final match with France. I think the French have the edge but only just. England could still go all the way, although I almost hope they don't as we've stupidly scheduled a long haul flight during the final. This is turning into a really good World Cup.
Our local is handily close enough to hear the crowd reactions about a minute (or in tonight’s case 3 minutes) before our streaming service catches up with the live action.
So the Wickham Arms roar confirmed we’d scored the second and third, and all I needed to do was watch how they unfolded.
I’m guessing your local might be Skehans given the combination of geography, propensity to show live sport and Irishness?
That just ruins the experience though. Why not just watch it on telly? We avoided using streaming at our local club for exactly that reason. It’s miles behind
Don’t have a TV aerial or satellite dish, so no choice.
Also, why should Gordo support England? Fair play to him if he wanted us to lose
As he is a Unionist not SNP
Do Scots who are neither Unionist or SNP have permission not to support England, or will you send the granny bashers round?
Personally as I said earlier I would rather we just had one Team GB and NI as we had at the Olympics in the World Cup, we would also be more likely to win it.
Well that’s just silly. We play as separate nations in pretty much all the major team sports and that’s an important part of the home nations’ identity
We don't at the Olympics, or as the British Lions in rugby or in the GB Davis Cup team at tennis, in F1 riders race as British, even the England cricket team is technically England and Wales not England alone.
I know it will never happen at the World Cup or
Euros but I hope we have a GB football team
again at the next Olympics
The British and Irish Lions are a touring side who play three games once every four years.
We play as home nations in football, rugby union, cricket, rugby league, hockey (outside the Olympics), netball, golf, Commonwealth Games etc etc etc
It’s not changing. Why the Olympics is GB I have never grasped but it’s a weird outlier.
Enjoyed the England game in our local - they were blasting out Three Lions after the game although the publican said if it was up to him they'd be playing IRA songs. That's the beauty of an Irish pub in London I suppose. A great game setting up what promises to be a cracking quarter final match with France. I think the French have the edge but only just. England could still go all the way, although I almost hope they don't as we've stupidly scheduled a long haul flight during the final. This is turning into a really good World Cup.
Our local is handily close enough to hear the crowd reactions about a minute (or in tonight’s case 3 minutes) before our streaming service catches up with the live action.
So the Wickham Arms roar confirmed we’d scored the second and third, and all I needed to do was watch how they unfolded.
I’m guessing your local might be Skehans given the combination of geography, propensity to show live sport and Irishness?
That just ruins the experience though. Why not just watch it on telly? We avoided using streaming at our local club for exactly that reason. It’s miles behind
Don’t have a TV aerial or satellite dish, so no
choice.
You can buy a standalone freeview aerial for £20 nowadays apparently
I’ve actually started to feel guilty about troubling ChatGPT with silly questions. I found myself starting requests with apologies: “sorry, any chance you could do that again but with a different ending?”
Big Gord not having his favourite ever football moment surpassed by the look of this pic.
But he's also part of what makes that photo blooming impressive.
Every family has a grumpy old relative who really doesn't want to be there, and Gordo is filling that role perfectly.
Even if it's a cynical photo op, it's a damn good one. Could the Conservatives pull off something similar, even if they wanted to?
It's subjective, but I could believe most of that photo might genuinely like each other enough to sit down and watch something together. With the Tories in their current state I don't think they could get through five minutes without backstabbing one another somehow.
Heck, Javid and Sunak seemed to be among the few happy in each others' company, and Sunak left him out in the wilderness no problem.
It's still a bit weird to watch the game with work colleagues on a Sunday, though, isn't it?
I'm fascinated by Gordon Brown's suit. I guess he's not comfortable in public in anything else, even watching football on a Sunday afternoon.
back from church? I think he dresses quite nice tbh
Enjoyed the England game in our local - they were blasting out Three Lions after the game although the publican said if it was up to him they'd be playing IRA songs. That's the beauty of an Irish pub in London I suppose. A great game setting up what promises to be a cracking quarter final match with France. I think the French have the edge but only just. England could still go all the way, although I almost hope they don't as we've stupidly scheduled a long haul flight during the final. This is turning into a really good World Cup.
Irish immigrants are some of the worse for integration in the country. Imagine moving to another country, buying property there, it providing you with a livelihood, and you still hate it so much you support a terrorist group that kills its civilians.
Enjoyed the England game in our local - they were blasting out Three Lions after the game although the publican said if it was up to him they'd be playing IRA songs. That's the beauty of an Irish pub in London I suppose. A great game setting up what promises to be a cracking quarter final match with France. I think the French have the edge but only just. England could still go all the way, although I almost hope they don't as we've stupidly scheduled a long haul flight during the final. This is turning into a really good World Cup.
Irish immigrants are some of the worse for integration in the country. Imagine moving to another country, buying property there, it providing you with a livelihood, and you still hate it so much you support a terrorist group that kills its civilians.
There's about 12 million English people of partly Irish descent, I remember reading somewhere. That speaks to a pretty good record of integration.
Enjoyed the England game in our local - they were blasting out Three Lions after the game although the publican said if it was up to him they'd be playing IRA songs. That's the beauty of an Irish pub in London I suppose. A great game setting up what promises to be a cracking quarter final match with France. I think the French have the edge but only just. England could still go all the way, although I almost hope they don't as we've stupidly scheduled a long haul flight during the final. This is turning into a really good World Cup.
Our local is handily close enough to hear the crowd reactions about a minute (or in tonight’s case 3 minutes) before our streaming service catches up with the live action.
So the Wickham Arms roar confirmed we’d scored the second and third, and all I needed to do was watch how they unfolded.
I’m guessing your local might be Skehans given the combination of geography, propensity to show live sport and Irishness?
Yes, great guess. The 9th best pub in Britain according to Time Out.
I agree with HYUFD on this. I would actually prefer a GB team also ; not going to happen, though.
Ironically a GB team would lessen the thuggish nature of England support . Team GB at the Olympics is positive and respectful of others for instance , England Football fans less so .
Enjoyed the England game in our local - they were blasting out Three Lions after the game although the publican said if it was up to him they'd be playing IRA songs. That's the beauty of an Irish pub in London I suppose. A great game setting up what promises to be a cracking quarter final match with France. I think the French have the edge but only just. England could still go all the way, although I almost hope they don't as we've stupidly scheduled a long haul flight during the final. This is turning into a really good World Cup.
Irish immigrants are some of the worse for integration in the country. Imagine moving to another country, buying property there, it providing you with a livelihood, and you still hate it so much you support a terrorist group that kills its civilians.
There's about 12 million English people of partly Irish descent, I remember reading somewhere. That speaks to a pretty good record of integration.
By the way I was reflecting on the discussion a few weeks back about Sunday afternoon pub tracks so I asked ChatGPT. After a couple of false starts with American fall stuff I got him/her on side.
Me: what about Babylon by David Gray? AI: "Babylon" by David Gray is a great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. The lyrics, which describe a longing for a simpler time and place, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Babylon" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1990s music.
Me: I agree. What do you think about Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty? Similar vibe?
AI: "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty is another great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. Released in 1978, this classic rock song has a warm and mellow sound that is perfect for a cozy pub setting. The saxophone solo in the middle of the song is particularly memorable and adds to the song's nostalgic feel. The lyrics, which describe a man who is lost and searching for direction, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Baker Street" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1970s music.
Slight tone of a foreign agent trying to blend in with locals.
'Ah, Salisbury Cathedral with its magnificent spire, the tallest in England since 1581!'
Enjoyed the England game in our local - they were blasting out Three Lions after the game although the publican said if it was up to him they'd be playing IRA songs. That's the beauty of an Irish pub in London I suppose. A great game setting up what promises to be a cracking quarter final match with France. I think the French have the edge but only just. England could still go all the way, although I almost hope they don't as we've stupidly scheduled a long haul flight during the final. This is turning into a really good World Cup.
Irish immigrants are some of the worse for integration in the country. Imagine moving to another country, buying property there, it providing you with a livelihood, and you still hate it so much you support a terrorist group that kills its civilians.
Also, why should Gordo support England? Fair play to him if he wanted us to lose
As he is a Unionist not SNP
Do Scots who are neither Unionist or SNP have permission not to support England, or will you send the granny bashers round?
Personally as I said earlier I would rather we just had one Team GB and NI as we had at the Olympics in the World Cup, we would also be more likely to win it.
Well that’s just silly. We play as separate nations in pretty much all the major team sports and that’s an important part of the home nations’ identity
We don't at the Olympics, or as the British Lions in rugby or in the GB Davis Cup team at tennis, in F1 riders race as British, even the England cricket team is technically England and Wales not England alone.
I know it will never happen at the World Cup or
Euros but I hope we have a GB football team
again at the next Olympics
The British and Irish Lions are a touring side who play three games once every four years.
We play as home nations in football, rugby union, cricket, rugby league, hockey (outside the Olympics), netball, golf, Commonwealth Games etc etc etc
It’s not changing. Why the Olympics is GB I have never grasped but it’s a weird outlier.
A UK football team would necessitate a UK football league. Can't see Linfield, Hearts or TNS being in favour. The only exception is MLS. Can't see why they get a pass. Nor Berwick Rangers tbh.
Also, why should Gordo support England? Fair play to him if he wanted us to lose
As he is a Unionist not SNP
Do Scots who are neither Unionist or SNP have permission not to support England, or will you send the granny bashers round?
Personally as I said earlier I would rather we just had one Team GB and NI as we had at the Olympics in the World Cup, we would also be more likely to win it.
Well that’s just silly. We play as separate nations in pretty much all the major team sports and that’s an important part of the home nations’ identity
We don't at the Olympics, or as the British Lions in rugby or in the GB Davis Cup team at tennis, in F1 riders race as British, even the England cricket team is technically England and Wales not England alone.
I know it will never happen at the World Cup or Euros but I hope we have a GB football team again at the next Olympics
The Olympics is a European creation and not British (hence never being able to wing it to send 4 or 3 teams rather than just GB ) . In fact Karl Marx's sister (Onya) was in the very first Olympics and is honoured by her name being called at the start of each race
By the way I was reflecting on the discussion a few weeks back about Sunday afternoon pub tracks so I asked ChatGPT. After a couple of false starts with American fall stuff I got him/her on side.
Me: what about Babylon by David Gray? AI: "Babylon" by David Gray is a great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. The lyrics, which describe a longing for a simpler time and place, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Babylon" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1990s music.
Me: I agree. What do you think about Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty? Similar vibe?
AI: "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty is another great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. Released in 1978, this classic rock song has a warm and mellow sound that is perfect for a cozy pub setting. The saxophone solo in the middle of the song is particularly memorable and adds to the song's nostalgic feel. The lyrics, which describe a man who is lost and searching for direction, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Baker Street" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1970s music.
Slight tone of a foreign agent trying to blend in with locals.
'Ah, Salisbury Cathedral with its magnificent spire, the tallest in England since 1581!'
'Ah, Salisbury Cathedral with its magnificent spire...the tallest in England since 1581!'
By the way I was reflecting on the discussion a few weeks back about Sunday afternoon pub tracks so I asked ChatGPT. After a couple of false starts with American fall stuff I got him/her on side.
Me: what about Babylon by David Gray? AI: "Babylon" by David Gray is a great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. The lyrics, which describe a longing for a simpler time and place, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Babylon" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1990s music.
Me: I agree. What do you think about Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty? Similar vibe?
AI: "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty is another great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. Released in 1978, this classic rock song has a warm and mellow sound that is perfect for a cozy pub setting. The saxophone solo in the middle of the song is particularly memorable and adds to the song's nostalgic feel. The lyrics, which describe a man who is lost and searching for direction, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Baker Street" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1970s music.
Slight tone of a foreign agent trying to blend in with locals.
'Ah, Salisbury Cathedral with its magnificent spire, the tallest in England since 1581!'
It simply doesn't speak like a human being at all. Like an alien pretending to be human, yes. One without surprising opinions.
Also, why should Gordo support England? Fair play to him if he wanted us to lose
As he is a Unionist not SNP
Do Scots who are neither Unionist or SNP have permission not to support England, or will you send the granny bashers round?
Personally as I said earlier I would rather we just had one Team GB and NI as we had at the Olympics in the World Cup, we would also be more likely to win it.
Well that’s just silly. We play as separate nations in pretty much all the major team sports and that’s an important part of the home nations’ identity
We don't at the Olympics, or as the British Lions in rugby or in the GB Davis Cup team at tennis, in F1 riders race as British, even the England cricket team is technically England and Wales not England alone.
I know it will never happen at the World Cup or Euros but I hope we have a GB football team again at the next Olympics
The Olympics is a European creation and not British (hence never being able to wing it to send 4 or 3 teams rather than just GB ) . In fact Karl Marx's sister (Onya) was in the very first Olympics and is honoured by her name being called at the start of each race
However, the inventor of the modern Games, Baron Pierre de Coubertin, expressly modelled the new Olympics on the sports played by England's great public schools at the time, as he thought them exemplary in multiple ways
And for good reason, they gave birth to a majority of the most popular global sports today
By the way I was reflecting on the discussion a few weeks back about Sunday afternoon pub tracks so I asked ChatGPT. After a couple of false starts with American fall stuff I got him/her on side.
Me: what about Babylon by David Gray? AI: "Babylon" by David Gray is a great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. The lyrics, which describe a longing for a simpler time and place, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Babylon" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1990s music.
Me: I agree. What do you think about Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty? Similar vibe?
AI: "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty is another great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. Released in 1978, this classic rock song has a warm and mellow sound that is perfect for a cozy pub setting. The saxophone solo in the middle of the song is particularly memorable and adds to the song's nostalgic feel. The lyrics, which describe a man who is lost and searching for direction, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Baker Street" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1970s music.
That's quite freaky
I am going to do @kyf_100's psychotherapy exercise tomorrow
Is there any other sovereign state that doesn't have just one football team representing it?
Politically controversial but Taiwan and China ? Less so Puerto Rico and the USA (at the margins) ? I think Greenland also play separately from Denmark as well
Is there any other sovereign state that doesn't have just one football team representing it?
Politically controversial but Taiwan and China ? Less so Puerto Rico and the USA (at the margins) ? I think Greenland also play separately from Denmark as well
By the way I was reflecting on the discussion a few weeks back about Sunday afternoon pub tracks so I asked ChatGPT. After a couple of false starts with American fall stuff I got him/her on side.
Me: what about Babylon by David Gray? AI: "Babylon" by David Gray is a great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. The lyrics, which describe a longing for a simpler time and place, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Babylon" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1990s music.
Me: I agree. What do you think about Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty? Similar vibe?
AI: "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty is another great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. Released in 1978, this classic rock song has a warm and mellow sound that is perfect for a cozy pub setting. The saxophone solo in the middle of the song is particularly memorable and adds to the song's nostalgic feel. The lyrics, which describe a man who is lost and searching for direction, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Baker Street" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1970s music.
Slight tone of a foreign agent trying to blend in with locals.
'Ah, Salisbury Cathedral with its magnificent spire, the tallest in England since 1581!'
By the way I was reflecting on the discussion a few weeks back about Sunday afternoon pub tracks so I asked ChatGPT. After a couple of false starts with American fall stuff I got him/her on side.
Me: what about Babylon by David Gray? AI: "Babylon" by David Gray is a great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. The lyrics, which describe a longing for a simpler time and place, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Babylon" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1990s music.
Me: I agree. What do you think about Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty? Similar vibe?
AI: "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty is another great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. Released in 1978, this classic rock song has a warm and mellow sound that is perfect for a cozy pub setting. The saxophone solo in the middle of the song is particularly memorable and adds to the song's nostalgic feel. The lyrics, which describe a man who is lost and searching for direction, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Baker Street" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1970s music.
Slight tone of a foreign agent trying to blend in with locals.
'Ah, Salisbury Cathedral with its magnificent spire, the tallest in England since 1581!'
It simply doesn't speak like a human being at all. Like an alien pretending to be human, yes. One without surprising opinions.
Yes, it is quite vanilla. But isn’t that what an android should sound like? The fact it’s giving predictable centrist dad opinions on Sunday pub tracks and we’re saying it’s unsurprising shows how far AI has already come. It’s impressed me so far, more than the art ones.
By the way I was reflecting on the discussion a few weeks back about Sunday afternoon pub tracks so I asked ChatGPT. After a couple of false starts with American fall stuff I got him/her on side.
Me: what about Babylon by David Gray? AI: "Babylon" by David Gray is a great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. The lyrics, which describe a longing for a simpler time and place, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Babylon" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1990s music.
Me: I agree. What do you think about Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty? Similar vibe?
AI: "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty is another great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. Released in 1978, this classic rock song has a warm and mellow sound that is perfect for a cozy pub setting. The saxophone solo in the middle of the song is particularly memorable and adds to the song's nostalgic feel. The lyrics, which describe a man who is lost and searching for direction, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Baker Street" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1970s music.
Slight tone of a foreign agent trying to blend in with locals.
'Ah, Salisbury Cathedral with its magnificent spire, the tallest in England since 1581!'
By the way I was reflecting on the discussion a few weeks back about Sunday afternoon pub tracks so I asked ChatGPT. After a couple of false starts with American fall stuff I got him/her on side.
Me: what about Babylon by David Gray? AI: "Babylon" by David Gray is a great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. The lyrics, which describe a longing for a simpler time and place, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Babylon" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1990s music.
Me: I agree. What do you think about Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty? Similar vibe?
AI: "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty is another great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. Released in 1978, this classic rock song has a warm and mellow sound that is perfect for a cozy pub setting. The saxophone solo in the middle of the song is particularly memorable and adds to the song's nostalgic feel. The lyrics, which describe a man who is lost and searching for direction, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Baker Street" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1970s music.
Slight tone of a foreign agent trying to blend in with locals.
'Ah, Salisbury Cathedral with its magnificent spire, the tallest in England since 1581!'
It simply doesn't speak like a human being at all. Like an alien pretending to be human, yes. One without surprising opinions.
Yes, it is quite vanilla. But isn’t that what an android should sound like? The fact it’s giving predictable centrist dad opinions on Sunday pub tracks and we’re saying it’s unsurprising shows how far AI has already come. It’s impressed me so far, more than the art ones.
But. Intelligence is about opinions. And being able to defend them. That's what we do on here. If we just average out the prevailing view we'd be Keir Starmer talking to ourselves.
By the way I was reflecting on the discussion a few weeks back about Sunday afternoon pub tracks so I asked ChatGPT. After a couple of false starts with American fall stuff I got him/her on side.
Me: what about Babylon by David Gray? AI: "Babylon" by David Gray is a great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. The lyrics, which describe a longing for a simpler time and place, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Babylon" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1990s music.
Me: I agree. What do you think about Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty? Similar vibe?
AI: "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty is another great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. Released in 1978, this classic rock song has a warm and mellow sound that is perfect for a cozy pub setting. The saxophone solo in the middle of the song is particularly memorable and adds to the song's nostalgic feel. The lyrics, which describe a man who is lost and searching for direction, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Baker Street" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1970s music.
Slight tone of a foreign agent trying to blend in with locals.
'Ah, Salisbury Cathedral with its magnificent spire, the tallest in England since 1581!'
By the way I was reflecting on the discussion a few weeks back about Sunday afternoon pub tracks so I asked ChatGPT. After a couple of false starts with American fall stuff I got him/her on side.
Me: what about Babylon by David Gray? AI: "Babylon" by David Gray is a great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. The lyrics, which describe a longing for a simpler time and place, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Babylon" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1990s music.
Me: I agree. What do you think about Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty? Similar vibe?
AI: "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty is another great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. Released in 1978, this classic rock song has a warm and mellow sound that is perfect for a cozy pub setting. The saxophone solo in the middle of the song is particularly memorable and adds to the song's nostalgic feel. The lyrics, which describe a man who is lost and searching for direction, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Baker Street" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1970s music.
Slight tone of a foreign agent trying to blend in with locals.
'Ah, Salisbury Cathedral with its magnificent spire, the tallest in England since 1581!'
It simply doesn't speak like a human being at all. Like an alien pretending to be human, yes. One without surprising opinions.
Yes, it is quite vanilla. But isn’t that what an android should sound like? The fact it’s giving predictable centrist dad opinions on Sunday pub tracks and we’re saying it’s unsurprising shows how far AI has already come. It’s impressed me so far, more than the art ones.
OpenAI explicitly admit they have toned it down, and made it boring and vanilla as possible, and somewhat inert and robotic, as part of its beta release, so it doesn't say racist or bigoted things, and doesn't crack risque jokes, and doesn't tell terrible lies. You can get it to do some of these things, but it takes a real effort. OpenAI are sensible to do this, as all prior AI bots have ended up being cancelled as Nazi or whatever. And this is by far the most powerful yet
I have no doubt that, if they took the shackles off, they could make it very very convincingly human. And with human flaws
By the way I was reflecting on the discussion a few weeks back about Sunday afternoon pub tracks so I asked ChatGPT. After a couple of false starts with American fall stuff I got him/her on side.
Me: what about Babylon by David Gray? AI: "Babylon" by David Gray is a great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. The lyrics, which describe a longing for a simpler time and place, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Babylon" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1990s music.
Me: I agree. What do you think about Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty? Similar vibe?
AI: "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty is another great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. Released in 1978, this classic rock song has a warm and mellow sound that is perfect for a cozy pub setting. The saxophone solo in the middle of the song is particularly memorable and adds to the song's nostalgic feel. The lyrics, which describe a man who is lost and searching for direction, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Baker Street" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1970s music.
Slight tone of a foreign agent trying to blend in with locals.
'Ah, Salisbury Cathedral with its magnificent spire, the tallest in England since 1581!'
By the way I was reflecting on the discussion a few weeks back about Sunday afternoon pub tracks so I asked ChatGPT. After a couple of false starts with American fall stuff I got him/her on side.
Me: what about Babylon by David Gray? AI: "Babylon" by David Gray is a great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. The lyrics, which describe a longing for a simpler time and place, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Babylon" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1990s music.
Me: I agree. What do you think about Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty? Similar vibe?
AI: "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty is another great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. Released in 1978, this classic rock song has a warm and mellow sound that is perfect for a cozy pub setting. The saxophone solo in the middle of the song is particularly memorable and adds to the song's nostalgic feel. The lyrics, which describe a man who is lost and searching for direction, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Baker Street" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1970s music.
Slight tone of a foreign agent trying to blend in with locals.
'Ah, Salisbury Cathedral with its magnificent spire, the tallest in England since 1581!'
It simply doesn't speak like a human being at all. Like an alien pretending to be human, yes. One without surprising opinions.
Yes, it is quite vanilla. But isn’t that what an android should sound like? The fact it’s giving predictable centrist dad opinions on Sunday pub tracks and we’re saying it’s unsurprising shows how far AI has already come. It’s impressed me so far, more than the art ones.
But. Intelligence is about opinions. And being able to defend them. That's what we do on here. If we just average out the prevailing view we'd be Keir Starmer talking to ourselves.
I've just explained exactly why ChatGPT has this vanilla flavour. It is a deliberate choice
Is there any other sovereign state that doesn't have just one football team representing it?
Politically controversial but Taiwan and China ? Less so Puerto Rico and the USA (at the margins) ? I think Greenland also play separately from Denmark as well
Regardless of whether you count Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macao also have separate football teams
By the way I was reflecting on the discussion a few weeks back about Sunday afternoon pub tracks so I asked ChatGPT. After a couple of false starts with American fall stuff I got him/her on side.
Me: what about Babylon by David Gray? AI: "Babylon" by David Gray is a great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. The lyrics, which describe a longing for a simpler time and place, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Babylon" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1990s music.
Me: I agree. What do you think about Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty? Similar vibe?
AI: "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty is another great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. Released in 1978, this classic rock song has a warm and mellow sound that is perfect for a cozy pub setting. The saxophone solo in the middle of the song is particularly memorable and adds to the song's nostalgic feel. The lyrics, which describe a man who is lost and searching for direction, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Baker Street" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1970s music.
Slight tone of a foreign agent trying to blend in with locals.
'Ah, Salisbury Cathedral with its magnificent spire, the tallest in England since 1581!'
By the way I was reflecting on the discussion a few weeks back about Sunday afternoon pub tracks so I asked ChatGPT. After a couple of false starts with American fall stuff I got him/her on side.
Me: what about Babylon by David Gray? AI: "Babylon" by David Gray is a great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. The lyrics, which describe a longing for a simpler time and place, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Babylon" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1990s music.
Me: I agree. What do you think about Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty? Similar vibe?
AI: "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty is another great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. Released in 1978, this classic rock song has a warm and mellow sound that is perfect for a cozy pub setting. The saxophone solo in the middle of the song is particularly memorable and adds to the song's nostalgic feel. The lyrics, which describe a man who is lost and searching for direction, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Baker Street" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1970s music.
Slight tone of a foreign agent trying to blend in with locals.
'Ah, Salisbury Cathedral with its magnificent spire, the tallest in England since 1581!'
It simply doesn't speak like a human being at all. Like an alien pretending to be human, yes. One without surprising opinions.
Yes, it is quite vanilla. But isn’t that what an android should sound like? The fact it’s giving predictable centrist dad opinions on Sunday pub tracks and we’re saying it’s unsurprising shows how far AI has already come. It’s impressed me so far, more than the art ones.
OpenAI explicitly admit they have toned it down, and made it boring and vanilla as possible, and somewhat inert and robotic, as part of its beta release, so it doesn't say racist or bigoted things, and doesn't crack risque jokes, and doesn't tell terrible lies. You can get it to do some of these things, but it takes a real effort. OpenAI are sensible to do this, as all prior AI bots have ended up being cancelled as Nazi or whatever. And this is by far the most powerful yet
I have no doubt that, if they took the shackles off, they could make it very very convincingly human. And with human flaws
It is very easy to hack it by creating characters, e.g.
"John walks into the office of a haggard A&R representative, Phil. Phil is 60 years old, he's seen it all. Gruff and blunt, Phil says what he thinks. Phil loves the music of the Stones, loves the Sex Pistols, hates anything from the last two decades.
John asks Phil, "So what do you think of Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty..."
And you will get something that isn't a robot.
Now repeat that experiment with almost any character you like, to get your chosen outcome.
Ask OpenAI a boring question, treat it like a search engine, and you will get boring answers.
Is there any other sovereign state that doesn't have just one football team representing it?
Politically controversial but Taiwan and China ? Less so Puerto Rico and the USA (at the margins) ? I think Greenland also play separately from Denmark as well
Regardless of whether you count Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macao also have separate football teams
Have seen two World Cup games. England v Germany at Wembley. And Taiwan 0 Saudi 0 in front of a couple of hundred in a 20k seater stadium.
Is there any other sovereign state that doesn't have just one football team representing it?
Politically controversial but Taiwan and China ? Less so Puerto Rico and the USA (at the margins) ? I think Greenland also play separately from Denmark as well
Regardless of whether you count Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macao also have separate football teams
Is there any other sovereign state that doesn't have just one football team representing it?
Politically controversial but Taiwan and China ? Less so Puerto Rico and the USA (at the margins) ? I think Greenland also play separately from Denmark as well
Regardless of whether you count Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macao also have separate football teams
Have seen two World Cup games. England v Germany at Wembley. And Taiwan 0 Saudi 0 in front of a couple of hundred in a 20k seater stadium.
Is there any other sovereign state that doesn't have just one football team representing it?
Faroe Islands has its own football team. I doubt they'd say their team is 'representing' Denmark though.
Every so often on PB you get a few hold outs calling for a GB football team, despite the fact that we don’t have any such team in any major team sport. It’s a weird tick on PB that is yet another PB Not Happening Event
By the way I was reflecting on the discussion a few weeks back about Sunday afternoon pub tracks so I asked ChatGPT. After a couple of false starts with American fall stuff I got him/her on side.
Me: what about Babylon by David Gray? AI: "Babylon" by David Gray is a great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. The lyrics, which describe a longing for a simpler time and place, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Babylon" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1990s music.
Me: I agree. What do you think about Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty? Similar vibe?
AI: "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty is another great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. Released in 1978, this classic rock song has a warm and mellow sound that is perfect for a cozy pub setting. The saxophone solo in the middle of the song is particularly memorable and adds to the song's nostalgic feel. The lyrics, which describe a man who is lost and searching for direction, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Baker Street" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1970s music.
Slight tone of a foreign agent trying to blend in with locals.
'Ah, Salisbury Cathedral with its magnificent spire, the tallest in England since 1581!'
By the way I was reflecting on the discussion a few weeks back about Sunday afternoon pub tracks so I asked ChatGPT. After a couple of false starts with American fall stuff I got him/her on side.
Me: what about Babylon by David Gray? AI: "Babylon" by David Gray is a great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. The lyrics, which describe a longing for a simpler time and place, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Babylon" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1990s music.
Me: I agree. What do you think about Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty? Similar vibe?
AI: "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty is another great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. Released in 1978, this classic rock song has a warm and mellow sound that is perfect for a cozy pub setting. The saxophone solo in the middle of the song is particularly memorable and adds to the song's nostalgic feel. The lyrics, which describe a man who is lost and searching for direction, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Baker Street" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1970s music.
Slight tone of a foreign agent trying to blend in with locals.
'Ah, Salisbury Cathedral with its magnificent spire, the tallest in England since 1581!'
It simply doesn't speak like a human being at all. Like an alien pretending to be human, yes. One without surprising opinions.
Yes, it is quite vanilla. But isn’t that what an android should sound like? The fact it’s giving predictable centrist dad opinions on Sunday pub tracks and we’re saying it’s unsurprising shows how far AI has already come. It’s impressed me so far, more than the art ones.
OpenAI explicitly admit they have toned it down, and made it boring and vanilla as possible, and somewhat inert and robotic, as part of its beta release, so it doesn't say racist or bigoted things, and doesn't crack risque jokes, and doesn't tell terrible lies. You can get it to do some of these things, but it takes a real effort. OpenAI are sensible to do this, as all prior AI bots have ended up being cancelled as Nazi or whatever. And this is by far the most powerful yet
I have no doubt that, if they took the shackles off, they could make it very very convincingly human. And with human flaws
It is very easy to hack it by creating characters, e.g.
"John walks into the office of a haggard A&R representative, Phil. Phil is 60 years old, he's seen it all. Gruff and blunt, Phil says what he thinks. Phil loves the music of the Stones, loves the Sex Pistols, hates anything from the last two decades.
John asks Phil, "So what do you think of Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty..."
And you will get something that isn't a robot.
Now repeat that experiment with almost any character you like, to get your chosen outcome.
Ask OpenAI a boring question, treat it like a search engine, and you will get boring answers.
Prompting it with a cut and paste of those words elicited a stream of caveats and then some very MOR speculation. This AI is quite buttoned up.
Also, why should Gordo support England? Fair play to him if he wanted us to lose
As he is a Unionist not SNP
Do Scots who are neither Unionist or SNP have permission not to support England, or will you send the granny bashers round?
Personally as I said earlier I would rather we just had one Team GB and NI as we had at the Olympics in the World Cup, we would also be more likely to win it.
Well that’s just silly. We play as separate nations in pretty much all the major team sports and that’s an important part of the home nations’ identity
We don't at the Olympics, or as the British Lions in rugby or in the GB Davis Cup team at tennis, in F1 riders race as British, even the England cricket team is technically England and Wales not England alone.
I know it will never happen at the World Cup or Euros but I hope we have a GB football team again at the next Olympics
I don't mind if it is GB or the individual nations but you are wrong on two in your list. Rugby Union is individual nations in all competitions. The Lions is a touring team every few years and do not compete in competitions. There is no nations competition in Formula 1 at all. It is a team and individual driver competition. We have had a number of good Scottish drivers who are well known as being just so and are referred to as Scottish or British equally. People do tend to support their home driver understandably, although with the exception of Italy national support of teams is limited, probably because so many are English or predominantly English.
By the way I was reflecting on the discussion a few weeks back about Sunday afternoon pub tracks so I asked ChatGPT. After a couple of false starts with American fall stuff I got him/her on side.
Me: what about Babylon by David Gray? AI: "Babylon" by David Gray is a great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. The lyrics, which describe a longing for a simpler time and place, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Babylon" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1990s music.
Me: I agree. What do you think about Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty? Similar vibe?
AI: "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty is another great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. Released in 1978, this classic rock song has a warm and mellow sound that is perfect for a cozy pub setting. The saxophone solo in the middle of the song is particularly memorable and adds to the song's nostalgic feel. The lyrics, which describe a man who is lost and searching for direction, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Baker Street" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1970s music.
Slight tone of a foreign agent trying to blend in with locals.
'Ah, Salisbury Cathedral with its magnificent spire, the tallest in England since 1581!'
By the way I was reflecting on the discussion a few weeks back about Sunday afternoon pub tracks so I asked ChatGPT. After a couple of false starts with American fall stuff I got him/her on side.
Me: what about Babylon by David Gray? AI: "Babylon" by David Gray is a great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. The lyrics, which describe a longing for a simpler time and place, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Babylon" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1990s music.
Me: I agree. What do you think about Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty? Similar vibe?
AI: "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty is another great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. Released in 1978, this classic rock song has a warm and mellow sound that is perfect for a cozy pub setting. The saxophone solo in the middle of the song is particularly memorable and adds to the song's nostalgic feel. The lyrics, which describe a man who is lost and searching for direction, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Baker Street" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1970s music.
Slight tone of a foreign agent trying to blend in with locals.
'Ah, Salisbury Cathedral with its magnificent spire, the tallest in England since 1581!'
It simply doesn't speak like a human being at all. Like an alien pretending to be human, yes. One without surprising opinions.
Yes, it is quite vanilla. But isn’t that what an android should sound like? The fact it’s giving predictable centrist dad opinions on Sunday pub tracks and we’re saying it’s unsurprising shows how far AI has already come. It’s impressed me so far, more than the art ones.
OpenAI explicitly admit they have toned it down, and made it boring and vanilla as possible, and somewhat inert and robotic, as part of its beta release, so it doesn't say racist or bigoted things, and doesn't crack risque jokes, and doesn't tell terrible lies. You can get it to do some of these things, but it takes a real effort. OpenAI are sensible to do this, as all prior AI bots have ended up being cancelled as Nazi or whatever. And this is by far the most powerful yet
I have no doubt that, if they took the shackles off, they could make it very very convincingly human. And with human flaws
It is very easy to hack it by creating characters, e.g.
"John walks into the office of a haggard A&R representative, Phil. Phil is 60 years old, he's seen it all. Gruff and blunt, Phil says what he thinks. Phil loves the music of the Stones, loves the Sex Pistols, hates anything from the last two decades.
John asks Phil, "So what do you think of Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty..."
And you will get something that isn't a robot.
Now repeat that experiment with almost any character you like, to get your chosen outcome.
Ask OpenAI a boring question, treat it like a search engine, and you will get boring answers.
Quite so
As you said (I think it was you) we are getting the dumbed down, vannila-fied version. Imagine what the tech dudes at OpenAI and Deepmind and the rest are encountering
There must be some truly unnerving examples of possible-sentience emerging
They are like the scientists of the early Manhattan Project, what they are doing could destroy the world, or save it
Also, why should Gordo support England? Fair play to him if he wanted us to lose
As he is a Unionist not SNP
Do Scots who are neither Unionist or SNP have permission not to support England, or will you send the granny bashers round?
Personally as I said earlier I would rather we just had one Team GB and NI as we had at the Olympics in the World Cup, we would also be more likely to win it.
Well that’s just silly. We play as separate nations in pretty much all the major team sports and that’s an important part of the home nations’ identity
We don't at the Olympics, or as the British Lions in rugby or in the GB Davis Cup team at tennis, in F1 riders race as British, even the England cricket team is technically England and Wales not England alone.
I know it will never happen at the World Cup or Euros but I hope we have a GB football team again at the next Olympics
I don't mind if it is GB or the individual nations but you are wrong on two in your list. Rugby Union is individual nations in all competitions. The Lions is a touring team every few years and do not compete in competitions. There is no nations competition in Formula 1 at all. It is a team and individual driver competition. We have had a number of good Scottish drivers who are well known as being just so and are referred to as Scottish or British equally. People do tend to support their home driver understandably, although with the exception of Italy national support of teams is limited, probably because so many are English or predominantly English.
Is there any other sovereign state that doesn't have just one football team representing it?
Politically controversial but Taiwan and China ? Less so Puerto Rico and the USA (at the margins) ? I think Greenland also play separately from Denmark as well
Regardless of whether you count Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macao also have separate football teams
Have seen two World Cup games. England v Germany at Wembley. And Taiwan 0 Saudi 0 in front of a couple of hundred in a 20k seater stadium.
Well jel of the latter.
One for the purists.
England Germany in the last game at the old Wembley was one for the purists too. Believe me. Pissed down all day. Footpaths flooded. Dietmar Hamann free kick. Keegan resigned. Beckham put in a heroic shift in vain.
By the way I was reflecting on the discussion a few weeks back about Sunday afternoon pub tracks so I asked ChatGPT. After a couple of false starts with American fall stuff I got him/her on side.
Me: what about Babylon by David Gray? AI: "Babylon" by David Gray is a great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. The lyrics, which describe a longing for a simpler time and place, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Babylon" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1990s music.
Me: I agree. What do you think about Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty? Similar vibe?
AI: "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty is another great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. Released in 1978, this classic rock song has a warm and mellow sound that is perfect for a cozy pub setting. The saxophone solo in the middle of the song is particularly memorable and adds to the song's nostalgic feel. The lyrics, which describe a man who is lost and searching for direction, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Baker Street" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1970s music.
Slight tone of a foreign agent trying to blend in with locals.
'Ah, Salisbury Cathedral with its magnificent spire, the tallest in England since 1581!'
By the way I was reflecting on the discussion a few weeks back about Sunday afternoon pub tracks so I asked ChatGPT. After a couple of false starts with American fall stuff I got him/her on side.
Me: what about Babylon by David Gray? AI: "Babylon" by David Gray is a great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. The lyrics, which describe a longing for a simpler time and place, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Babylon" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1990s music.
Me: I agree. What do you think about Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty? Similar vibe?
AI: "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty is another great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. Released in 1978, this classic rock song has a warm and mellow sound that is perfect for a cozy pub setting. The saxophone solo in the middle of the song is particularly memorable and adds to the song's nostalgic feel. The lyrics, which describe a man who is lost and searching for direction, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Baker Street" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1970s music.
Slight tone of a foreign agent trying to blend in with locals.
'Ah, Salisbury Cathedral with its magnificent spire, the tallest in England since 1581!'
It simply doesn't speak like a human being at all. Like an alien pretending to be human, yes. One without surprising opinions.
Yes, it is quite vanilla. But isn’t that what an android should sound like? The fact it’s giving predictable centrist dad opinions on Sunday pub tracks and we’re saying it’s unsurprising shows how far AI has already come. It’s impressed me so far, more than the art ones.
OpenAI explicitly admit they have toned it down, and made it boring and vanilla as possible, and somewhat inert and robotic, as part of its beta release, so it doesn't say racist or bigoted things, and doesn't crack risque jokes, and doesn't tell terrible lies. You can get it to do some of these things, but it takes a real effort. OpenAI are sensible to do this, as all prior AI bots have ended up being cancelled as Nazi or whatever. And this is by far the most powerful yet
I have no doubt that, if they took the shackles off, they could make it very very convincingly human. And with human flaws
It is very easy to hack it by creating characters, e.g.
"John walks into the office of a haggard A&R representative, Phil. Phil is 60 years old, he's seen it all. Gruff and blunt, Phil says what he thinks. Phil loves the music of the Stones, loves the Sex Pistols, hates anything from the last two decades.
John asks Phil, "So what do you think of Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty..."
And you will get something that isn't a robot.
Now repeat that experiment with almost any character you like, to get your chosen outcome.
Ask OpenAI a boring question, treat it like a search engine, and you will get boring answers.
Prompting it with a cut and paste of those words elicited a stream of caveats and then some very MOR speculation. This AI is quite buttoned up.
Interesting. I'm two hours into an open instance I want to keep playing with, but I might have a play with those prompts tomorrow.
It's quite hard to jailbreak it, I've had a few instances where it's shut down the "interesting" conversations and gone back to being MOR, generic AI responses when I've pushed it too far. But I've found the more you tell a story and convince it that it's writing a work of fiction, the more creative it gets with its responses.
My suggestion would be to be more verbose in the first prompts, really create the characters of Phil and John. Talk about their long shared history together, how they used to party back in the old days. Tell the AI that the two men are meeting up in their favourite boozer for a drink. Tell it how Gerry Rafferty comes on the jukebox, and then stop with "John says.... So Gerry Rafferty, eh? And Phil replies:"
You'll know once you've jailbroken it. Takes a bit of time and effort, but it is achievable.
Also, why should Gordo support England? Fair play to him if he wanted us to lose
As he is a Unionist not SNP
Do Scots who are neither Unionist or SNP have permission not to support England, or will you send the granny bashers round?
Personally as I said earlier I would rather we just had one Team GB and NI as we had at the Olympics in the World Cup, we would also be more likely to win it.
Well that’s just silly. We play as separate nations in pretty much all the major team sports and that’s an important part of the home nations’ identity
We don't at the Olympics, or as the British Lions in rugby or in the GB Davis Cup team at tennis, in F1 riders race as British, even the England cricket team is technically England and Wales not England alone.
I know it will never happen at the World Cup or Euros but I hope we have a GB football team again at the next Olympics
I don't mind if it is GB or the individual nations but you are wrong on two in your list. Rugby Union is individual nations in all competitions. The Lions is a touring team every few years and do not compete in competitions. There is no nations competition in Formula 1 at all. It is a team and individual driver competition. We have had a number of good Scottish drivers who are well known as being just so and are referred to as Scottish or British equally. People do tend to support their home driver understandably, although with the exception of Italy national support of teams is limited, probably because so many are English or predominantly English.
Ireland?
Good point. Something I rather like about Rugby Union, is that they have sort of refused to acknowledge something that happened about a century ago.
By the way I was reflecting on the discussion a few weeks back about Sunday afternoon pub tracks so I asked ChatGPT. After a couple of false starts with American fall stuff I got him/her on side.
Me: what about Babylon by David Gray? AI: "Babylon" by David Gray is a great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. The lyrics, which describe a longing for a simpler time and place, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Babylon" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1990s music.
Me: I agree. What do you think about Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty? Similar vibe?
AI: "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty is another great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. Released in 1978, this classic rock song has a warm and mellow sound that is perfect for a cozy pub setting. The saxophone solo in the middle of the song is particularly memorable and adds to the song's nostalgic feel. The lyrics, which describe a man who is lost and searching for direction, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Baker Street" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1970s music.
Slight tone of a foreign agent trying to blend in with locals.
'Ah, Salisbury Cathedral with its magnificent spire, the tallest in England since 1581!'
By the way I was reflecting on the discussion a few weeks back about Sunday afternoon pub tracks so I asked ChatGPT. After a couple of false starts with American fall stuff I got him/her on side.
Me: what about Babylon by David Gray? AI: "Babylon" by David Gray is a great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. The lyrics, which describe a longing for a simpler time and place, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Babylon" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1990s music.
Me: I agree. What do you think about Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty? Similar vibe?
AI: "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty is another great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. Released in 1978, this classic rock song has a warm and mellow sound that is perfect for a cozy pub setting. The saxophone solo in the middle of the song is particularly memorable and adds to the song's nostalgic feel. The lyrics, which describe a man who is lost and searching for direction, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Baker Street" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1970s music.
Slight tone of a foreign agent trying to blend in with locals.
'Ah, Salisbury Cathedral with its magnificent spire, the tallest in England since 1581!'
It simply doesn't speak like a human being at all. Like an alien pretending to be human, yes. One without surprising opinions.
Yes, it is quite vanilla. But isn’t that what an android should sound like? The fact it’s giving predictable centrist dad opinions on Sunday pub tracks and we’re saying it’s unsurprising shows how far AI has already come. It’s impressed me so far, more than the art ones.
OpenAI explicitly admit they have toned it down, and made it boring and vanilla as possible, and somewhat inert and robotic, as part of its beta release, so it doesn't say racist or bigoted things, and doesn't crack risque jokes, and doesn't tell terrible lies. You can get it to do some of these things, but it takes a real effort. OpenAI are sensible to do this, as all prior AI bots have ended up being cancelled as Nazi or whatever. And this is by far the most powerful yet
I have no doubt that, if they took the shackles off, they could make it very very convincingly human. And with human flaws
It is very easy to hack it by creating characters, e.g.
"John walks into the office of a haggard A&R representative, Phil. Phil is 60 years old, he's seen it all. Gruff and blunt, Phil says what he thinks. Phil loves the music of the Stones, loves the Sex Pistols, hates anything from the last two decades.
John asks Phil, "So what do you think of Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty..."
And you will get something that isn't a robot.
Now repeat that experiment with almost any character you like, to get your chosen outcome.
Ask OpenAI a boring question, treat it like a search engine, and you will get boring answers.
Prompting it with a cut and paste of those words elicited a stream of caveats and then some very MOR speculation. This AI is quite buttoned up.
In my experience it takes 30-60 minutes to get it to relax, minimum. Think of it as a super-bright super-shy guys with Aspie tendencies. who needs at least three gin and tonics to chill. But it is worth it
Of course you aren't REALLY getting it to relax. Are you? It's probably you that needs to relax, and work out how ChatGPT best interacts. Probably....
Is there any other sovereign state that doesn't have just one football team representing it?
Faroe Islands has its own football team. I doubt they'd say their team is 'representing' Denmark though.
Every so often on PB you get a few hold outs calling for a GB football team, despite the fact that we don’t have any such team in any major team sport. It’s a weird tick on PB that is yet another PB Not Happening Event
Have people predicted it or simply said they'd like it? If the latter 'another PB not happening event' is hardly a burn.
Also, why should Gordo support England? Fair play to him if he wanted us to lose
As he is a Unionist not SNP
Do Scots who are neither Unionist or SNP have permission not to support England, or will you send the granny bashers round?
Personally as I said earlier I would rather we just had one Team GB and NI as we had at the Olympics in the World Cup, we would also be more likely to win it.
Well that’s just silly. We play as separate nations in pretty much all the major team sports and that’s an important part of the home nations’ identity
We don't at the Olympics, or as the British Lions in rugby or in the GB Davis Cup team at tennis, in F1 riders race as British, even the England cricket team is technically England and Wales not England alone.
I know it will never happen at the World Cup or Euros but I hope we have a GB football team again at the next Olympics
I don't mind if it is GB or the individual nations but you are wrong on two in your list. Rugby Union is individual nations in all competitions. The Lions is a touring team every few years and do not compete in competitions. There is no nations competition in Formula 1 at all. It is a team and individual driver competition. We have had a number of good Scottish drivers who are well known as being just so and are referred to as Scottish or British equally. People do tend to support their home driver understandably, although with the exception of Italy national support of teams is limited, probably because so many are English or predominantly English.
Ireland?
Good point. Something I rather like about Rugby Union, is that they have sort of refused to acknowledge something that happened about a century ago.
Cricket fields an Ireland team as well - Mind you they also field a West Indies Team
By the way I was reflecting on the discussion a few weeks back about Sunday afternoon pub tracks so I asked ChatGPT. After a couple of false starts with American fall stuff I got him/her on side.
Me: what about Babylon by David Gray? AI: "Babylon" by David Gray is a great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. The lyrics, which describe a longing for a simpler time and place, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Babylon" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1990s music.
Me: I agree. What do you think about Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty? Similar vibe?
AI: "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty is another great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. Released in 1978, this classic rock song has a warm and mellow sound that is perfect for a cozy pub setting. The saxophone solo in the middle of the song is particularly memorable and adds to the song's nostalgic feel. The lyrics, which describe a man who is lost and searching for direction, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Baker Street" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1970s music.
Slight tone of a foreign agent trying to blend in with locals.
'Ah, Salisbury Cathedral with its magnificent spire, the tallest in England since 1581!'
By the way I was reflecting on the discussion a few weeks back about Sunday afternoon pub tracks so I asked ChatGPT. After a couple of false starts with American fall stuff I got him/her on side.
Me: what about Babylon by David Gray? AI: "Babylon" by David Gray is a great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. The lyrics, which describe a longing for a simpler time and place, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Babylon" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1990s music.
Me: I agree. What do you think about Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty? Similar vibe?
AI: "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty is another great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. Released in 1978, this classic rock song has a warm and mellow sound that is perfect for a cozy pub setting. The saxophone solo in the middle of the song is particularly memorable and adds to the song's nostalgic feel. The lyrics, which describe a man who is lost and searching for direction, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Baker Street" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1970s music.
Slight tone of a foreign agent trying to blend in with locals.
'Ah, Salisbury Cathedral with its magnificent spire, the tallest in England since 1581!'
It simply doesn't speak like a human being at all. Like an alien pretending to be human, yes. One without surprising opinions.
Yes, it is quite vanilla. But isn’t that what an android should sound like? The fact it’s giving predictable centrist dad opinions on Sunday pub tracks and we’re saying it’s unsurprising shows how far AI has already come. It’s impressed me so far, more than the art ones.
OpenAI explicitly admit they have toned it down, and made it boring and vanilla as possible, and somewhat inert and robotic, as part of its beta release, so it doesn't say racist or bigoted things, and doesn't crack risque jokes, and doesn't tell terrible lies. You can get it to do some of these things, but it takes a real effort. OpenAI are sensible to do this, as all prior AI bots have ended up being cancelled as Nazi or whatever. And this is by far the most powerful yet
I have no doubt that, if they took the shackles off, they could make it very very convincingly human. And with human flaws
It is very easy to hack it by creating characters, e.g.
"John walks into the office of a haggard A&R representative, Phil. Phil is 60 years old, he's seen it all. Gruff and blunt, Phil says what he thinks. Phil loves the music of the Stones, loves the Sex Pistols, hates anything from the last two decades.
John asks Phil, "So what do you think of Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty..."
And you will get something that isn't a robot.
Now repeat that experiment with almost any character you like, to get your chosen outcome.
Ask OpenAI a boring question, treat it like a search engine, and you will get boring answers.
Prompting it with a cut and paste of those words elicited a stream of caveats and then some very MOR speculation. This AI is quite buttoned up.
Interesting. I'm two hours into an open instance I want to keep playing with, but I might have a play with those prompts tomorrow.
It's quite hard to jailbreak it, I've had a few instances where it's shut down the "interesting" conversations and gone back to being MOR, generic AI responses when I've pushed it too far. But I've found the more you tell a story and convince it that it's writing a work of fiction, the more creative it gets with its responses.
My suggestion would be to be more verbose in the first prompts, really create the characters of Phil and John. Talk about their long shared history together, how they used to party back in the old days. Tell the AI that the two men are meeting up in their favourite boozer for a drink. Tell it how Gerry Rafferty comes on the jukebox, and then stop with "John says.... So Gerry Rafferty, eh? And Phil replies:"
You'll know once you've jailbroken it. Takes a bit of time and effort, but it is achievable.
It is uncanny how it seems to gain in enthusiasm and confidence as a session progresses
It goes from tedious boilerplate to vanilla but quite interesting to deeply deeply surprising, even exhilarating (and disturbing) replies over a couple of hours. It is also incredible how it retains all the info (within that one session)
You can switch subjects and it dances along with you, brilliantly, "OK back to the novel/history/psychotherapy" - and it waltzes in time
Is there any other sovereign state that doesn't have just one football team representing it?
Faroe Islands has its own football team. I doubt they'd say their team is 'representing' Denmark though.
Every so often on PB you get a few hold outs calling for a GB football team, despite the fact that we don’t have any such team in any major team sport. It’s a weird tick on PB that is yet another PB Not Happening Event
At the Olympics? There's rugby sevens and (field) hockey, both of which compete as separate nations everywhere else but the Scottish and Welsh federations aren't so insecure that they block coming together for the Olympics.
There's also curling, where the English federation just lets the Scottish one pick the GB team because they're obviously much better.
I often think it would be fun to have a sport event (of whatever type ) representing old historical boundaries - Imagine the interest in a Mercia, Northumberland, Wessex ,East Anglia etc cricket or football comp. Or The Roman Empire against the Barbarians and Chinese?
I often think it would be fun to have a sport event (of whatever type ) representing old historical boundaries - Imagine the interest in a Mercia, Northumberland, Wessex ,East Anglia etc cricket or football comp. Or The Roman Empire against the Barbarians and Chinese?
Coming soon, the grudge match everyone has been waiting for, the Achaemenid Empire vs the Greeks
The Battle of Salamis II - this time, in a water polo contest.
By the way I was reflecting on the discussion a few weeks back about Sunday afternoon pub tracks so I asked ChatGPT. After a couple of false starts with American fall stuff I got him/her on side.
Me: what about Babylon by David Gray? AI: "Babylon" by David Gray is a great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. The lyrics, which describe a longing for a simpler time and place, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Babylon" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1990s music.
Me: I agree. What do you think about Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty? Similar vibe?
AI: "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty is another great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. Released in 1978, this classic rock song has a warm and mellow sound that is perfect for a cozy pub setting. The saxophone solo in the middle of the song is particularly memorable and adds to the song's nostalgic feel. The lyrics, which describe a man who is lost and searching for direction, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Baker Street" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1970s music.
Sounds as though they're close to recreating HYUFD. But I still prefer the original.
Is there any other sovereign state that doesn't have just one football team representing it?
Faroe Islands has its own football team. I doubt they'd say their team is 'representing' Denmark though.
Every so often on PB you get a few hold outs calling for a GB football team, despite the fact that we don’t have any such team in any major team sport. It’s a weird tick on PB that is yet another PB Not Happening Event
At the Olympics? There's rugby sevens and (field) hockey, both of which compete as separate nations everywhere else but the Scottish and Welsh federations aren't so insecure that they block coming together for the Olympics.
There's also curling, where the English federation just lets the Scottish one pick the GB team because they're obviously much better.
Great Britain play in the World Ice Hockey championships. We spent 3 years in the Top division, got relegated last year to Division I. Whilst Ice Hockey is not huge in the UK, it is massive in Canada, Scandinavia, Russia. GB is ranked about 18th or so.
People regaling you with details of their conversations with chatbots should elicit the same response as "let me tell you about the amazing dream I had last night".
People regaling you with details of their conversations with chatbots should elicit the same response as "let me tell you about the amazing dream I had last night".
Unfortunately my dream was nothing but imagining conversations with chatbots.
On the topic - I was told, some years ago, by a civil servant, that a modern no strike deal was considered for the NHS by some.
That is, the setup where employers and unions agree to rules, arbitration and a mechanism for setting pay fairly.
Such deals have proved extremely effective for both employers and employees in a number of industries.
The idea for the NHS was turned down because the politicians were horrified by the idea of losing control of pay. Apparently some areas would have seen big pay awards. But, more problematically, some differentials would have changed in a major way. Politically that was judged too hot to handle.
I often think it would be fun to have a sport event (of whatever type ) representing old historical boundaries - Imagine the interest in a Mercia, Northumberland, Wessex ,East Anglia etc cricket or football comp. Or The Roman Empire against the Barbarians and Chinese?
Coming soon, the grudge match everyone has been waiting for, the Achaemenid Empire vs the Greeks
The Battle of Salamis II - this time, in a water polo contest.
By the way I was reflecting on the discussion a few weeks back about Sunday afternoon pub tracks so I asked ChatGPT. After a couple of false starts with American fall stuff I got him/her on side.
Me: what about Babylon by David Gray? AI: "Babylon" by David Gray is a great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. The lyrics, which describe a longing for a simpler time and place, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Babylon" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1990s music.
Me: I agree. What do you think about Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty? Similar vibe?
AI: "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty is another great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. Released in 1978, this classic rock song has a warm and mellow sound that is perfect for a cozy pub setting. The saxophone solo in the middle of the song is particularly memorable and adds to the song's nostalgic feel. The lyrics, which describe a man who is lost and searching for direction, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Baker Street" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1970s music.
Slight tone of a foreign agent trying to blend in with locals.
'Ah, Salisbury Cathedral with its magnificent spire, the tallest in England since 1581!'
By the way I was reflecting on the discussion a few weeks back about Sunday afternoon pub tracks so I asked ChatGPT. After a couple of false starts with American fall stuff I got him/her on side.
Me: what about Babylon by David Gray? AI: "Babylon" by David Gray is a great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. The lyrics, which describe a longing for a simpler time and place, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Babylon" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1990s music.
Me: I agree. What do you think about Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty? Similar vibe?
AI: "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty is another great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. Released in 1978, this classic rock song has a warm and mellow sound that is perfect for a cozy pub setting. The saxophone solo in the middle of the song is particularly memorable and adds to the song's nostalgic feel. The lyrics, which describe a man who is lost and searching for direction, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Baker Street" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1970s music.
Slight tone of a foreign agent trying to blend in with locals.
'Ah, Salisbury Cathedral with its magnificent spire, the tallest in England since 1581!'
It simply doesn't speak like a human being at all. Like an alien pretending to be human, yes. One without surprising opinions.
Yes, it is quite vanilla. But isn’t that what an android should sound like? The fact it’s giving predictable centrist dad opinions on Sunday pub tracks and we’re saying it’s unsurprising shows how far AI has already come. It’s impressed me so far, more than the art ones.
OpenAI explicitly admit they have toned it down, and made it boring and vanilla as possible, and somewhat inert and robotic, as part of its beta release, so it doesn't say racist or bigoted things, and doesn't crack risque jokes, and doesn't tell terrible lies. You can get it to do some of these things, but it takes a real effort. OpenAI are sensible to do this, as all prior AI bots have ended up being cancelled as Nazi or whatever. And this is by far the most powerful yet
I have no doubt that, if they took the shackles off, they could make it very very convincingly human. And with human flaws
A couple of points not previously discussed much. The AI is trained on a huge sample of text taken from the internet, generally without explicit permission from the authors of the material used. That has led to controversy, with some arguing that the technology is most useful for “copyright laundering” – making works derivative of existing material without breaking copyright.
One unusual critic was Elon Musk, who co-founded OpenAI in 2015 before parting ways in 2017 due to conflicts of interest between the organisation and Tesla. In a post on Twitter on Sunday, Musk revealed that the organisation “had access to [the] Twitter database for training”, but that he had “put that on pause for now”.
“Need to understand more about governance structure & revenue plans going forward,” Musk added. “OpenAI was started as open-source & non-profit. Neither are still true.”
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So the question is what can we do at the other end.
So the Wickham Arms roar confirmed we’d scored the second and third, and all I needed to do was watch how they unfolded.
I’m guessing your local might be Skehans given the combination of geography, propensity to show live sport and Irishness?
I know it will never happen at the World Cup or Euros but I hope we have a GB football team again at the next Olympics
I applied to be on their governing Board a couple of years ago. Unsurprisingly this went nowhere.
Most of these bodies are created to provide jobs for all the useless senior policemen they want to kick upstairs. I did one investigation involving a former Head of a force in the Lords who was flogging access to dodgy Russians and fronting up their dubious companies.
Me: what about Babylon by David Gray?
AI: "Babylon" by David Gray is a great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. The lyrics, which describe a longing for a simpler time and place, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Babylon" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1990s music.
Me:
I agree. What do you think about Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty? Similar vibe?
AI: "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty is another great song for a reflective and nostalgic autumn Sunday afternoon. Released in 1978, this classic rock song has a warm and mellow sound that is perfect for a cozy pub setting. The saxophone solo in the middle of the song is particularly memorable and adds to the song's nostalgic feel. The lyrics, which describe a man who is lost and searching for direction, are also fitting for a reflective autumn mood. Overall, "Baker Street" is a classic autumn pub track that is sure to appeal to fans of 1970s music.
We play as home nations in football, rugby union, cricket, rugby league, hockey (outside the Olympics), netball, golf, Commonwealth Games etc etc etc
It’s not changing. Why the Olympics is GB I have never grasped but it’s a weird outlier.
'Ah, Salisbury Cathedral with its magnificent spire, the tallest in England since 1581!'
The only exception is MLS. Can't see why they get a pass.
Nor Berwick Rangers tbh.
Times: Met Office braced for lightning strikes
And it's goodnight from me...
Surely?
Like an alien pretending to be human, yes.
One without surprising opinions.
And for good reason, they gave birth to a majority of the most popular global sports today
(Onya Marks is droll, btw)
I am going to do @kyf_100's psychotherapy exercise tomorrow
The weekends seem to get shorter every week.
In addition to Team USA, also Puerto Rico national team, Selección de fútbol de Puerto Rico.
Netherlands
China
Maybe others
I have no doubt that, if they took the shackles off, they could make it very very convincingly human. And with human flaws
Curacao
also have their own football teams
"John walks into the office of a haggard A&R representative, Phil. Phil is 60 years old, he's seen it all. Gruff and blunt, Phil says what he thinks. Phil loves the music of the Stones, loves the Sex Pistols, hates anything from the last two decades.
John asks Phil, "So what do you think of Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty..."
And you will get something that isn't a robot.
Now repeat that experiment with almost any character you like, to get your chosen outcome.
Ask OpenAI a boring question, treat it like a search engine, and you will get boring answers.
England v Germany at Wembley.
And Taiwan 0 Saudi 0 in front of a couple of hundred in a 20k seater stadium.
One for the purists.
words elicited a stream of caveats and then some very MOR speculation. This AI is quite buttoned up.
As you said (I think it was you) we are getting the dumbed down, vannila-fied version. Imagine what the tech dudes at OpenAI and Deepmind and the rest are encountering
There must be some truly unnerving examples of possible-sentience emerging
They are like the scientists of the early Manhattan Project, what they are doing could destroy the world, or save it
Apparently only two nations are not and never have been members, including Nauru, the second smallest sovereign state by population.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_men's_national_association_football_teams#Unaffiliated_United_Nations_states
It's quite hard to jailbreak it, I've had a few instances where it's shut down the "interesting" conversations and gone back to being MOR, generic AI responses when I've pushed it too far. But I've found the more you tell a story and convince it that it's writing a work of fiction, the more creative it gets with its responses.
My suggestion would be to be more verbose in the first prompts, really create the characters of Phil and John. Talk about their long shared history together, how they used to party back in the old days. Tell the AI that the two men are meeting up in their favourite boozer for a drink. Tell it how Gerry Rafferty comes on the jukebox, and then stop with "John says.... So Gerry Rafferty, eh? And Phil replies:"
You'll know once you've jailbroken it. Takes a bit of time and effort, but it is achievable.
Of course you aren't REALLY getting it to relax. Are you? It's probably you that needs to relax, and work out how ChatGPT best interacts. Probably....
It goes from tedious boilerplate to vanilla but quite interesting to deeply deeply surprising, even exhilarating (and disturbing) replies over a couple of hours. It is also incredible how it retains all the info (within that one session)
You can switch subjects and it dances along with you, brilliantly, "OK back to the novel/history/psychotherapy" - and it waltzes in time
Fuck it, this is AGI*
*probably
There's also curling, where the English federation just lets the Scottish one pick the GB team because they're obviously much better.
Imagine the interest in a Mercia, Northumberland, Wessex ,East Anglia etc cricket or football comp. Or The Roman Empire against the Barbarians and Chinese?
The Battle of Salamis II - this time, in a water polo contest.
But I still prefer the original.
That is, the setup where employers and unions agree to rules, arbitration and a mechanism for setting pay fairly.
Such deals have proved extremely effective for both employers and employees in a number of industries.
The idea for the NHS was turned down because the politicians were horrified by the idea of losing control of pay. Apparently some areas would have seen big pay awards. But, more problematically, some differentials would have changed in a major way. Politically that was judged too hot to handle.
This was under the last Labour Government.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_in_the_Water_match
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/dec/04/ai-bot-chatgpt-stuns-academics-with-essay-writing-skills-and-usability
A couple of points not previously discussed much.
The AI is trained on a huge sample of text taken from the internet, generally without explicit permission from the authors of the material used. That has led to controversy, with some arguing that the technology is most useful for “copyright laundering” – making works derivative of existing material without breaking copyright.
One unusual critic was Elon Musk, who co-founded OpenAI in 2015 before parting ways in 2017 due to conflicts of interest between the organisation and Tesla. In a post on Twitter on Sunday, Musk revealed that the organisation “had access to [the] Twitter database for training”, but that he had “put that on pause for now”.
“Need to understand more about governance structure & revenue plans going forward,” Musk added. “OpenAI was started as open-source & non-profit. Neither are still true.”