It seems highly likely now that Covid was engineered to be more deadly by US scientists, then released, whether by accident or, God forbid, design.
The committee overseeing this research is anonymous and totally unnacountable to the legislature in the US.
Whether released deliberately or by accident, this is a crime that has taken 6 million lives, and has cost economies countless billions. It dwarves any misdemeanours committed by any country since the middle part of the last century.
We need to establish if this is true, and if it is, the USA needs to be sued back into the stone age.
Of course it came from the lab. Of course these scientist c*nts are lying. And they’re still lying. ‘The market! The market!’
Shut up about the fucking market when 99% of overwhelming circumstantial evidence points to the fucking lab ten yards away WHICH WAS DOING DANGEROUS RESEARCH INTO NOVEL BAT CORONAVIRUSES
A fucking toddler knows it came from the lab
Urgh. It makes me quite angry. And, for once, justifiably
20 million people are dead
Back already? No aircon or no gays?
Realised his union jack hotpants and 'LONDON IS BAAAACK' tank top were in the wash.
It seems highly likely now that Covid was engineered to be more deadly by US scientists, then released, whether by accident or, God forbid, design.
The committee overseeing this research is anonymous and totally unnacountable to the legislature in the US.
Whether released deliberately or by accident, this is a crime that has taken 6 million lives, and has cost economies countless billions. It dwarves any misdemeanours committed by any country since the middle part of the last century.
We need to establish if this is true, and if it is, the USA needs to be sued back into the stone age.
Of course it came from the lab. Of course these scientist c*nts are lying. And they’re still lying. ‘The market! The market!’
Shut up about the fucking market when 99% of overwhelming circumstantial evidence points to the fucking lab ten yards away WHICH WAS DOING DANGEROUS RESEARCH INTO NOVEL BAT CORONAVIRUSES
A fucking toddler knows it came from the lab
Urgh. It makes me quite angry. And, for once, justifiably
20 million people are dead
Every country needs to demand from its politicians, what US 'biodefense' research programmes are taking place in their countries, and they need to be stopped, pdq.
China is even more to blame. They deliberately spread this virus once they knew it was out
But we will never get the proven truth because all the major powers are implicated. Including the UK. A lot of the scientists who concocted the first ‘lab leak is racist’ cover-up are British. Farrar at the Wellcome, etc
Waitrose online have almost sold out of mineral water
EVERYONE IS THIRSTY
I also saw they had a whole section of zero alcohol drinks. The world is a changin'.
For the better in this case, I think, and Peroni's zero lager does it for me.
It's an interesting philosophical point. Kingsley Amis famously asked it, Would we drink booze if it wasn't boozy? If it did not get us drunk?
Personally, no, I doubt it very much
I enjoy the taste of a few forms of alcohol - red wine, maybe a beer on a cold day - but I can't see myself drinking it if it did not have booze. It would be like smoking zero-heroin heroin
And of course some alcohols are positively unpleasant - eg vodka
I saw a zero alcohol gin, the other day, in Marks and Sparks. What is the fucking point in that? The only fucking point in that is to try and fool your brain into believing you are drinking alcohol
Bingo.
(Much like smoking I believe) it is the ritual that is important as much as anything. Gordon's zero gin is the best of the bunch imo and stick it in a cut crystal glass, tonic, ice and a slice, and some anchovy olives and you feel you are having a gin.
If you think about the first drink of the evening, it gives you a very pleasant hit such that you think: "more of that please" and before you know it it's midnight and you are posting about aliens at the bottom of the garden.
Why not stick at that one first drink and then have something which fools your brain into thinking it is continuing the process without the unwelcome effects.
Same with a zero lager. Stick some lemonade in the top and sit down on a day such as today with that and a pack of Walkers Chicken Crisps and you are having a lazy beer. Plus that beer, er, ah, um, texture is unique and the zero ones have it.
One of life's immeasurable joys (for me) is to take the gin (Sipsmiths) out of the freezer, the fevertree full fat out of the fridge and pour one third two thirds of each into a nice cut crystal glass.
That first sip is the most amazing, sharp, hit. Same as if you get a martini at Drakes (where they limit you to two only) or even The Stafford.
Absolutely nothing like it.
But three down the line, then onto supper and some wine then perhaps a sticky is not a good recipe for the following day.
And midweek I am increasingly preferring having a clear head in the morning than a drunken one in the evening. Not that a couple of beers or even a gin midweek would take me out of the game the next day but I really do like that clear, sharp head. Most people who have given up/cut down their alcohol say the same thing.
I don't think I'll ever give up completely but the thought of it is not out of the question (current wine stocks mean that will be some time down the line if I never bought another bottle of decent aldi red, of which there are many).
Quite rare that the Stafford gets a mention. I've organised a couple of dinners in their cellar - an amusing place.
I used to work right next door to the Stafford: fantastically expensive bar, but a fun place.
On topic Labour's leads are modest by historic but I'm not sure how much swingback we'll see when the energy cap hits £5,000.
The Red Wall Tory MPs will be in stepmom territory.
Once those energy bills start coming in, the Conservatives are going to be in stepmom on pornhub territory. Which is why I find it so surprising they have no answer to the problem.
On topic Labour's leads are modest by historic but I'm not sure how much swingback we'll see when the energy cap hits £5,000.
The Red Wall Tory MPs will be in stepmom territory.
Once those energy bills start coming in, the Conservatives are going to be in stepmom on pornhub territory. Which is why I find it so surprising they have no answer to the problem.
It seems highly likely now that Covid was engineered to be more deadly by US scientists, then released, whether by accident or, God forbid, design.
The committee overseeing this research is anonymous and totally unnacountable to the legislature in the US.
Whether released deliberately or by accident, this is a crime that has taken 6 million lives, and has cost economies countless billions. It dwarves any misdemeanours committed by any country since the middle part of the last century.
We need to establish if this is true, and if it is, the USA needs to be sued back into the stone age.
Of course it came from the lab. Of course these scientist c*nts are lying. And they’re still lying. ‘The market! The market!’
Shut up about the fucking market when 99% of overwhelming circumstantial evidence points to the fucking lab ten yards away WHICH WAS DOING DANGEROUS RESEARCH INTO NOVEL BAT CORONAVIRUSES
A fucking toddler knows it came from the lab
Urgh. It makes me quite angry. And, for once, justifiably
20 million people are dead
Coming from the lab consists of multiple possibilities though. Accidental release is very different from a deliberate release. Assuming that the the gain of function work was the ultimate source, was it risk assessed? Was the ethical review undertaken? Did someone fuck up? It’s not as simple as just saying it came from the lab, you must pay reparations.
Look into the applications for GOF research funds that went from Daszak at Wuhan to Fauci at NIH
Specific alterations to the Furin Cleavage Site which, amazingly, are apparent on SARS-CoV-2
It seems highly likely now that Covid was engineered to be more deadly by US scientists, then released, whether by accident or, God forbid, design.
The committee overseeing this research is anonymous and totally unnacountable to the legislature in the US.
Whether released deliberately or by accident, this is a crime that has taken 6 million lives, and has cost economies countless billions. It dwarves any misdemeanours committed by any country since the middle part of the last century.
We need to establish if this is true, and if it is, the USA needs to be sued back into the stone age.
Of course it came from the lab. Of course these scientist c*nts are lying. And they’re still lying. ‘The market! The market!’
Shut up about the fucking market when 99% of overwhelming circumstantial evidence points to the fucking lab ten yards away WHICH WAS DOING DANGEROUS RESEARCH INTO NOVEL BAT CORONAVIRUSES
A fucking toddler knows it came from the lab
Urgh. It makes me quite angry. And, for once, justifiably
20 million people are dead
Every country needs to demand from its politicians, what US 'biodefense' research programmes are taking place in their countries, and they need to be stopped, pdq.
China is even more to blame. They deliberately spread this virus once they knew it was out
But we will never get the proven truth because all the major powers are implicated. Including the UK. A lot of the scientists who concocted the first ‘lab leak is racist’ cover-up are British. Farrar at the Wellcome, etc
We will get the proven truth, and all those responsible must be brought to justice, including any and all corrupt British scientists.
Wow. Whilst I don't generally approve of speaking so even to a (presumed) opponent or idiot, sometimes it is positive to see a very genuine, unpolished human reaction from a politician (see also Jenkins explaining how she snapped for second when she flipped off those protestors).
O'Rourke is an odd duck, sometimes impressively & authentically passionate, other times a bit meh. His twitter (which I know is not the be all and end all) is fairly turgid without a glimpse of humour or personality. Wasn't he quite well though of before the Dem primaries last time out?
Maybe he's about to come into his own; cometh the hour, cometh the Beto.
On topic Labour's leads are modest by historic but I'm not sure how much swingback we'll see when the energy cap hits £5,000.
I think this is a very good point. The raw situation is not unrecoverable for the Tories in historic terms, but there are a multitude of factors - length of time in office, Red Wall support drop, cost of living, etc - which mean that while it cannot be guaranteed they cannot recover, it will not be easy and blithe assumptions they will autoamtically are pinning a lot on that hope.
Given the terminally stupid think the best way to win the next election is declare war on the woke then it could get much for the Tories.
When people have to worry about choosing between heating or eating focussing your energies on persecuting trans people or changing the uni year means 1997 will look like a good year for the Tories in comparison to the 2024 general election.
This thread has eaten a 40-year-old tin of macaroni.
BTW I am investigating low alcohol ciders - I like the dry taste more than soft drinks but Mrs C frowns on the alcohol content of the real stuff. Stowford isn't bad, and I see there are specialist firms for such drinks so you can order crates of antyhing you like if the supermarket doesn't hold them. Might try this.
It seems highly likely now that Covid was engineered to be more deadly by US scientists, then released, whether by accident or, God forbid, design.
The committee overseeing this research is anonymous and totally unnacountable to the legislature in the US.
Whether released deliberately or by accident, this is a crime that has taken 6 million lives, and has cost economies countless billions. It dwarves any misdemeanours committed by any country since the middle part of the last century.
We need to establish if this is true, and if it is, the USA needs to be sued back into the stone age.
Of course it came from the lab. Of course these scientist c*nts are lying. And they’re still lying. ‘The market! The market!’
Shut up about the fucking market when 99% of overwhelming circumstantial evidence points to the fucking lab ten yards away WHICH WAS DOING DANGEROUS RESEARCH INTO NOVEL BAT CORONAVIRUSES
A fucking toddler knows it came from the lab
Urgh. It makes me quite angry. And, for once, justifiably
20 million people are dead
Coming from the lab consists of multiple possibilities though. Accidental release is very different from a deliberate release. Assuming that the the gain of function work was the ultimate source, was it risk assessed? Was the ethical review undertaken? Did someone fuck up? It’s not as simple as just saying it came from the lab, you must pay reparations.
Look into the applications for GOF research funds that went from Daszak at Wuhan to Fauci at NIH
Specific alterations to the Furin Cleavage Site which, amazingly, are apparent on SARS-CoV-2
None of that addresses the questions about risk assessment, ethics etc. (I do this for a living). It’s possible that Wuhan has none of these processes, but ultimate funding bodies should have.
Wow. Whilst I don't generally approve of speaking so even to a (presumed) opponent or idiot, sometimes it is positive to see a very genuine, unpolished human reaction from a politician (see also Jenkins explaining how she snapped for second when she flipped off those protestors).
O'Rourke is an odd duck, sometimes impressively & authentically passionate, other times a bit meh. His twitter (which I know is not the be all and end all) is fairly turgid without a glimpse of humour or personality. Wasn't he quite well though of before the Dem primaries last time out?
Maybe he's about to come into his own; cometh the hour, cometh the Beto.
Is calling a heckler a motherfucker a particular sign of form? Perhaps we should expect something similar from Sunak as he seeks to gain ground against Truss.
Waitrose online have almost sold out of mineral water
EVERYONE IS THIRSTY
I also saw they had a whole section of zero alcohol drinks. The world is a changin'.
For the better in this case, I think, and Peroni's zero lager does it for me.
It's an interesting philosophical point. Kingsley Amis famously asked it, Would we drink booze if it wasn't boozy? If it did not get us drunk?
Personally, no, I doubt it very much
I enjoy the taste of a few forms of alcohol - red wine, maybe a beer on a cold day - but I can't see myself drinking it if it did not have booze. It would be like smoking zero-heroin heroin
And of course some alcohols are positively unpleasant - eg vodka
I saw a zero alcohol gin, the other day, in Marks and Sparks. What is the fucking point in that? The only fucking point in that is to try and fool your brain into believing you are drinking alcohol
Bingo.
(Much like smoking I believe) it is the ritual that is important as much as anything. Gordon's zero gin is the best of the bunch imo and stick it in a cut crystal glass, tonic, ice and a slice, and some anchovy olives and you feel you are having a gin.
If you think about the first drink of the evening, it gives you a very pleasant hit such that you think: "more of that please" and before you know it it's midnight and you are posting about aliens at the bottom of the garden.
Why not stick at that one first drink and then have something which fools your brain into thinking it is continuing the process without the unwelcome effects.
Same with a zero lager. Stick some lemonade in the top and sit down on a day such as today with that and a pack of Walkers Chicken Crisps and you are having a lazy beer. Plus that beer, er, ah, um, texture is unique and the zero ones have it.
In my experience the good thing about these zero beers is that you can make people who are drinking alcohol feel at ease in social functions. I normally buy one, put it in a glass, and it just looks like I am drinking beer with everyone else, so no awkwardness.
Not enormously. no. I will listen to almost anything if it is presented to me - my iTunes library is ridiculously eclectic, from Gregorian chants to Philip Glass to the Entire Works of Busted - but I would not seek out that genre
@Leon I really want you to go and see this guy that I recommended to @MarqueeMark earlier, Dom Pipkin.
If you can go to one of his gigs and not come away a convert to NOLA R&B, I'll be astonished that you've proven yourself such a heathen
Unfortunately I missed an opportunity to promote his excellent live show to you earlier this week; he played upstairs at Ronnie Scott's on Monday night
He's playing there again on a Monday at the end of next month, and it only costs a tenner to get in
If you can't wait that long, or live in South/East London, go check him out next Tuesday at The Temple Of Art And Music just by Elephant & Castle
The E&C gig is Dom's new NOLA Jam session. It'll cost about a tenner (probably less) to get in and you'll get about three hours of rich, sweet jam
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But we will never get the proven truth because all the major powers are implicated. Including the UK. A lot of the scientists who concocted the first ‘lab leak is racist’ cover-up are British. Farrar at the Wellcome, etc
Specific alterations to the Furin Cleavage Site which, amazingly, are apparent on SARS-CoV-2
Maybe he's about to come into his own; cometh the hour, cometh the Beto.
When people have to worry about choosing between heating or eating focussing your energies on persecuting trans people or changing the uni year means 1997 will look like a good year for the Tories in comparison to the 2024 general election.
BTW I am investigating low alcohol ciders - I like the dry taste more than soft drinks but Mrs C frowns on the alcohol content of the real stuff. Stowford isn't bad, and I see there are specialist firms for such drinks so you can order crates of antyhing you like if the supermarket doesn't hold them. Might try this.
https://drydrinker.com/product/mixed-cider-case/
I think they are double counting.
NEW THREAD
If you can go to one of his gigs and not come away a convert to NOLA R&B, I'll be astonished that you've proven yourself such a heathen
Unfortunately I missed an opportunity to promote his excellent live show to you earlier this week; he played upstairs at Ronnie Scott's on Monday night
He's playing there again on a Monday at the end of next month, and it only costs a tenner to get in
If you can't wait that long, or live in South/East London, go check him out next Tuesday at The Temple Of Art And Music just by Elephant & Castle
The E&C gig is Dom's new NOLA Jam session. It'll cost about a tenner (probably less) to get in and you'll get about three hours of rich, sweet jam
Just to whet appetites, here's another video of him live at a bar in Nottingham
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akHxDeHp5yU
If anyone's interested in him or his gigs and on facebook, follow him here
https://www.facebook.com/domandtheikos