Tory leadership race: is necklacegate what was exercising Finnish social media last week, or is there something else to break? And no mention of drugs so far.
In case anyone missed it (I posted it at about 2am)
Which raises the question: does she not care? Took me 2 mins to google that
Is she trolling?
On the upside, looks like we’re about to have our first kinkster prime minister (I am discounting the lurid rumours about Pitt the Younger)
Maybe she's been trolled, if she'd been given it as a gift and hadn't looked to see where it was bought from.
No, she knows exactly what it means. Her dress also had bondage motifs - overt, egregious lacing on the sides
She’s a kinkster
Does anyone care? It's not even exotic now every woman in the land has read 50 Shades. The last guy (who may or may not have resigned) has a history of screwing the hired help so Liz will be the second prime minister in a row who likes sex.
Did Theresa May not enjoy sex? This will come as a crushing bow to the ego of Phillip May.
I understand sex is a very popular hobby and has been for some time. End of story for a political betting website.
The juvenile masturbators parading themselves on this thread should probably go to a different website and leave us be. I understand a range of such sites are available to suit every taste.
lol. And also: wrong
Truss is heading for victory. She is going to be the next UK PM. She’s got past the solitary debate without harm, so what’s left? A few hustings?
Realistically, the one thing that could derail her campaign now is a scandal. Now what form might such a scandal take? There were rumours in the Times - yes, the Times - that one of the leadership candidates “likes BDSM”. Thanks to my genius insight, PB now knows who this is, very probably
Two things generally cause scandals: sex and money. Sunak was nearly derailed by a money scandal. Truss?
All this has serious betting implications, as well as consequences for the nation, and the idea we should ignore it because a bunch of incels on PB get upset is frankly absurd
I'm not sure "likes BDSM" is even really much of a scandal any more, is it?
It might be enough to derail a candidate with the Tory membership? I genuinely dunno. We need the expert insight of @HYUFD!
Also see my quote from the Indy. Allegedly there is kompromat. Photos
That WOULD be dangerous for any candidate
As long as she was not doing anything illegal or doing BDSM with someone other than her husband while married I doubt any such photos if they existed would damage her too much
Is this really the same poster who wouldnt hear a bad word said about Boris?
Given MPs removed Boris for his improper behaviour, members will be looking for someone a bit more straight laced now Brexit is done and Corbyn beaten which Boris was leader to achieve
At what point did you realise that Boris was a lying shit and that the Party had moved away from you?
In case anyone missed it (I posted it at about 2am)
Which raises the question: does she not care? Took me 2 mins to google that
Is she trolling?
On the upside, looks like we’re about to have our first kinkster prime minister (I am discounting the lurid rumours about Pitt the Younger)
Maybe she's been trolled, if she'd been given it as a gift and hadn't looked to see where it was bought from.
No, she knows exactly what it means. Her dress also had bondage motifs - overt, egregious lacing on the sides
She’s a kinkster
Does anyone care? It's not even exotic now every woman in the land has read 50 Shades. The last guy (who may or may not have resigned) has a history of screwing the hired help so Liz will be the second prime minister in a row who likes sex.
Did Theresa May not enjoy sex? This will come as a crushing bow to the ego of Phillip May.
I understand sex is a very popular hobby and has been for some time. End of story for a political betting website.
The juvenile masturbators parading themselves on this thread should probably go to a different website and leave us be. I understand a range of such sites are available to suit every taste.
lol. And also: wrong
Truss is heading for victory. She is going to be the next UK PM. She’s got past the solitary debate without harm, so what’s left? A few hustings?
Realistically, the one thing that could derail her campaign now is a scandal. Now what form might such a scandal take? There were rumours in the Times - yes, the Times - that one of the leadership candidates “likes BDSM”. Thanks to my genius insight, PB now knows who this is, very probably
Two things generally cause scandals: sex and money. Sunak was nearly derailed by a money scandal. Truss?
All this has serious betting implications, as well as consequences for the nation, and the idea we should ignore it because a bunch of incels on PB get upset is frankly absurd
I'm not sure "likes BDSM" is even really much of a scandal any more, is it?
It might be enough to derail a candidate with the Tory membership? I genuinely dunno. We need the expert insight of @HYUFD!
Also see my quote from the Indy. Allegedly there is kompromat. Photos
That WOULD be dangerous for any candidate
As long as she was not doing anything illegal or doing BDSM with someone other than her husband while married I doubt any such photos if they existed would damage her too much
Is this really the same poster who wouldnt hear a bad word said about Boris?
Given MPs removed Boris for his improper behaviour, members will be looking for someone a bit more straight laced now Brexit is done and Corbyn beaten which Boris was leader to achieve
A bit more straight laced is easily achieved, and delivered by both candidates. But nothing illegal and no affair in their lifetime is decent odds against for a top politician.
Other than his lockdown fine, which in itself was more a political statement than a legal one, I doubt Sunak has ever done anything illegal or had an affair. He is also teetotal
There was a profile of Sunak in a paper a couple of days ago which said "for relaxation, he likes to have a Coca Cola with his wife, on a Saturday evening"
I kid thee not. A singular can of coke. That's his vice
He is SO squeakers I wonder if HE is the one in @bondegezou's rumoured sex scandal. No one can be that vanilla
Its worth pointing out the Spanish requirements are a "may be required to" and can include credit card limit.....
I imagine in reality it will really used in a similar manner to nightclub bouncers not liking the look of somebody and pulling out their dress code which they are use to deny entry, rather than a family of 4 having a week on the Costa del Sol.
Hmm. That makes a bit more sense. Presumably it's something they would be looking at if accommodation and/or onward/return travel weren't already booked.
The Mail reports that Spain is going to insist on British tourists being able to show they have £85 a day available. Not sure it's a good idea from the Spanish point of view.
I can't remember the last time I spent as much as £85 in a single day on any holiday, excluding hotels and travel but even that was nearly always pre-booked. £85 average seems insane to the point that surely there must be some kind of misunderstanding somewhere.
For visitors to the UK it is £100-£150 per day per person, plus other criteria on top.
Factor Criteria UK trip expenses Is capable to spend about £100-150 per day per person Monthly income Have a monthly income of at least half of total UK trip expenses Sufficient funds Have funds that are more than twice of the total UK trip expenses Spending and saving patterns Have been saving consistently for the UK trip and not borrowed money from someone else
In case anyone missed it (I posted it at about 2am)
Which raises the question: does she not care? Took me 2 mins to google that
Is she trolling?
On the upside, looks like we’re about to have our first kinkster prime minister (I am discounting the lurid rumours about Pitt the Younger)
Maybe she's been trolled, if she'd been given it as a gift and hadn't looked to see where it was bought from.
No, she knows exactly what it means. Her dress also had bondage motifs - overt, egregious lacing on the sides
She’s a kinkster
Does anyone care? It's not even exotic now every woman in the land has read 50 Shades. The last guy (who may or may not have resigned) has a history of screwing the hired help so Liz will be the second prime minister in a row who likes sex.
Did Theresa May not enjoy sex? This will come as a crushing bow to the ego of Phillip May.
I understand sex is a very popular hobby and has been for some time. End of story for a political betting website.
The juvenile masturbators parading themselves on this thread should probably go to a different website and leave us be. I understand a range of such sites are available to suit every taste.
lol. And also: wrong
Truss is heading for victory. She is going to be the next UK PM. She’s got past the solitary debate without harm, so what’s left? A few hustings?
Realistically, the one thing that could derail her campaign now is a scandal. Now what form might such a scandal take? There were rumours in the Times - yes, the Times - that one of the leadership candidates “likes BDSM”. Thanks to my genius insight, PB now knows who this is, very probably
Two things generally cause scandals: sex and money. Sunak was nearly derailed by a money scandal. Truss?
All this has serious betting implications, as well as consequences for the nation, and the idea we should ignore it because a bunch of incels on PB get upset is frankly absurd
I'm not sure "likes BDSM" is even really much of a scandal any more, is it?
It might be enough to derail a candidate with the Tory membership? I genuinely dunno. We need the expert insight of @HYUFD!
Also see my quote from the Indy. Allegedly there is kompromat. Photos
That WOULD be dangerous for any candidate
As long as she was not doing anything illegal or doing BDSM with someone other than her husband while married I doubt any such photos if they existed would damage her too much
Is this really the same poster who wouldnt hear a bad word said about Boris?
Given MPs removed Boris for his improper behaviour, members will be looking for someone a bit more straight laced now Brexit is done and Corbyn beaten which Boris was leader to achieve
All the signs are that the next PM will indeed be "more straight laced"
Its worth pointing out the Spanish requirements are a "may be required to" and can include credit card limit.....
I imagine in reality it will really used in a similar manner to nightclub bouncers not liking the look of somebody and pulling out their dress code which they are use to deny entry, rather than a family of 4 having a week on the Costa del Sol.
Hmm. That makes a bit more sense. Presumably it's something they would be looking at if accommodation and/or onward/return travel weren't already booked.
That is my understanding. The 100 euros figure comes from basically in worst case scenario you have to prove you can find 10% of the minimum yearly salary in Spain (which is ~9000 euros), but if you have accommodation booked, return flights etc, it seems highly unlikely somebody is going to be asking much more and even then its a theoretical can you get your hands on 900 euros.
If you don't have any accommodation or return flights, I think then you might be having to show some funds. But try going to somewhere like the US with no plans, you will be getting a asked a lot of questions.
In case anyone missed it (I posted it at about 2am)
Which raises the question: does she not care? Took me 2 mins to google that
Is she trolling?
On the upside, looks like we’re about to have our first kinkster prime minister (I am discounting the lurid rumours about Pitt the Younger)
Maybe she's been trolled, if she'd been given it as a gift and hadn't looked to see where it was bought from.
No, she knows exactly what it means. Her dress also had bondage motifs - overt, egregious lacing on the sides
She’s a kinkster
Does anyone care? It's not even exotic now every woman in the land has read 50 Shades. The last guy (who may or may not have resigned) has a history of screwing the hired help so Liz will be the second prime minister in a row who likes sex.
Did Theresa May not enjoy sex? This will come as a crushing bow to the ego of Phillip May.
I understand sex is a very popular hobby and has been for some time. End of story for a political betting website.
The juvenile masturbators parading themselves on this thread should probably go to a different website and leave us be. I understand a range of such sites are available to suit every taste.
lol. And also: wrong
Truss is heading for victory. She is going to be the next UK PM. She’s got past the solitary debate without harm, so what’s left? A few hustings?
Realistically, the one thing that could derail her campaign now is a scandal. Now what form might such a scandal take? There were rumours in the Times - yes, the Times - that one of the leadership candidates “likes BDSM”. Thanks to my genius insight, PB now knows who this is, very probably
Two things generally cause scandals: sex and money. Sunak was nearly derailed by a money scandal. Truss?
All this has serious betting implications, as well as consequences for the nation, and the idea we should ignore it because a bunch of incels on PB get upset is frankly absurd
I'm not sure "likes BDSM" is even really much of a scandal any more, is it?
It might be enough to derail a candidate with the Tory membership? I genuinely dunno. We need the expert insight of @HYUFD!
Also see my quote from the Indy. Allegedly there is kompromat. Photos
That WOULD be dangerous for any candidate
As long as she was not doing anything illegal or doing BDSM with someone other than her husband while married I doubt any such photos if they existed would damage her too much
Is this really the same poster who wouldnt hear a bad word said about Boris?
Given MPs removed Boris for his improper behaviour, members will be looking for someone a bit more straight laced now Brexit is done and Corbyn beaten which Boris was leader to achieve
A bit more straight laced is easily achieved, and delivered by both candidates. But nothing illegal and no affair in their lifetime is decent odds against for a top politician.
Other than his lockdown fine, which in itself was more a political statement than a legal one, I doubt Sunak has ever done anything illegal or had an affair. He is also teetotal
There was a profile of Sunak in a paper a couple of days ago which said "for relaxation, he likes to have a Coca Cola with his wife, on a Saturday evening"
I kid thee not. A singular can of coke. That's his vice
He is SO squeakers I wonder if HE is the one in @bondegezou's rumoured sex scandal. No one can be that vanilla
How long before Team Truss tweets that Rishi was coked off his tits for yesterday's debate? Mind you, it would explain the aggressive interjections.
Professor Susan Michie has been made chair of the WHO's behavioural advisory group.
It's not April 1st for another seven months.
That's no accident. Given WHO is about as straight as a three-bob note, and is in hock to the CCP, they'll be delighted with her appointment.
Another thing Trump was right about, but again because of all his other shit and toxicity nobody will do anything instantly taking the side against him. He was also right about the likes of ByteDance (the people who make TikTok).
In case anyone missed it (I posted it at about 2am)
Which raises the question: does she not care? Took me 2 mins to google that
Is she trolling?
On the upside, looks like we’re about to have our first kinkster prime minister (I am discounting the lurid rumours about Pitt the Younger)
Maybe she's been trolled, if she'd been given it as a gift and hadn't looked to see where it was bought from.
No, she knows exactly what it means. Her dress also had bondage motifs - overt, egregious lacing on the sides
She’s a kinkster
Does anyone care? It's not even exotic now every woman in the land has read 50 Shades. The last guy (who may or may not have resigned) has a history of screwing the hired help so Liz will be the second prime minister in a row who likes sex.
Did Theresa May not enjoy sex? This will come as a crushing bow to the ego of Phillip May.
I understand sex is a very popular hobby and has been for some time. End of story for a political betting website.
The juvenile masturbators parading themselves on this thread should probably go to a different website and leave us be. I understand a range of such sites are available to suit every taste.
lol. And also: wrong
Truss is heading for victory. She is going to be the next UK PM. She’s got past the solitary debate without harm, so what’s left? A few hustings?
Realistically, the one thing that could derail her campaign now is a scandal. Now what form might such a scandal take? There were rumours in the Times - yes, the Times - that one of the leadership candidates “likes BDSM”. Thanks to my genius insight, PB now knows who this is, very probably
Two things generally cause scandals: sex and money. Sunak was nearly derailed by a money scandal. Truss?
All this has serious betting implications, as well as consequences for the nation, and the idea we should ignore it because a bunch of incels on PB get upset is frankly absurd
I'm not sure "likes BDSM" is even really much of a scandal any more, is it?
No, but I also don’t think “liking BDSM” is the sex scandal that one camp might be worried about.
It isn't. And before anyone starts shrieking about "slut shaming" I know that I don't care who she is doing or how she is doing them. Frankly if she is a fetlifer I'm more impressed than I otherwise would have been. I assume @leon is of a similar mindset.
But - and its a big but - supposedly there are scandal materials being held back to "bring down the government". Liz doing Ms Whiplash on colleagues is their business. Until the the proof of live video gets used as blackmail by hostile powers. Which is what I assume the Finland (and onwards to Russia) angle relates to...
I didn't pick up anything like this last night during the debate. And I was watching her very closely.
Its the necklace. If she was miss innocent then perhaps she saw it ebay and thought "thats a nice necklace" and has no idea what it is.
But she isn't. So she does. Good for her!
And the dress. This was the same outfit she wore last night. Check the lacing
You and I know this world. We know what this says
Now, is this prurient and sordid speculation which demeans PB?
Yes
Does it matter?
Also yes
I know enough to know that you are correct. It's an amusing story, rather than an actual scandal though.
Professor Susan Michie has been made chair of the WHO's behavioural advisory group.
It's not April 1st for another seven months.
That's no accident. Given WHO is about as straight as a three-bob note, and is in hock to the CCP, they'll be delighted with her appointment.
Another thing Trump was right about, but again because of all this other shit and toxicity nobody will do anything. He was also right about the likes of ByteDance (the people who make TikTok).
A good reason not to elect a toxic shithead to be Leader of the Free World then.
President Joe Biden’s administration is downplaying data due this week that could show the US economy contracted for a second straight quarter -- a development that would match one standard definition of a recession.
The administration’s message: what’s often called a “technical recession” isn’t necessarily a real one.
That is some proper alternative facts stuff there. Yes I know the economists don't like the simplistic idea of recession just anytime being two quarters of negative growth, but it is pretty much established convention in terms of political parlance that when it happens you have to fess up and say its a recession. Them the breaks.
Saw that one overnight. Oh, so it’s not really a recession, even if it matches the definition we’ve used for decades as being a recession. Fake News!
These are from the same people who said don't worry about us running the money printing presses 24/7, airdropping crazy amounts of money that was poorly targeted, because the west has "solved inflation"....its just transitory....its erhhhh.....
When I heard Biden's advisor saying the no more boom and bust, I mean inflation is solved, 18 months ago, you know where we were heading.
Just before 2008, when Ed Balls announced they’d abolished boom and bust, I was returning to the bank. I met one of the traders out front and told what he’d said. The trader said oh shit and dived inside to sell his personal portfolio….
In case anyone missed it (I posted it at about 2am)
Which raises the question: does she not care? Took me 2 mins to google that
Is she trolling?
On the upside, looks like we’re about to have our first kinkster prime minister (I am discounting the lurid rumours about Pitt the Younger)
Maybe she's been trolled, if she'd been given it as a gift and hadn't looked to see where it was bought from.
No, she knows exactly what it means. Her dress also had bondage motifs - overt, egregious lacing on the sides
She’s a kinkster
Does anyone care? It's not even exotic now every woman in the land has read 50 Shades. The last guy (who may or may not have resigned) has a history of screwing the hired help so Liz will be the second prime minister in a row who likes sex.
Did Theresa May not enjoy sex? This will come as a crushing bow to the ego of Phillip May.
I understand sex is a very popular hobby and has been for some time. End of story for a political betting website.
The juvenile masturbators parading themselves on this thread should probably go to a different website and leave us be. I understand a range of such sites are available to suit every taste.
lol. And also: wrong
Truss is heading for victory. She is going to be the next UK PM. She’s got past the solitary debate without harm, so what’s left? A few hustings?
Realistically, the one thing that could derail her campaign now is a scandal. Now what form might such a scandal take? There were rumours in the Times - yes, the Times - that one of the leadership candidates “likes BDSM”. Thanks to my genius insight, PB now knows who this is, very probably
Two things generally cause scandals: sex and money. Sunak was nearly derailed by a money scandal. Truss?
All this has serious betting implications, as well as consequences for the nation, and the idea we should ignore it because a bunch of incels on PB get upset is frankly absurd
I'm not sure "likes BDSM" is even really much of a scandal any more, is it?
It might be enough to derail a candidate with the Tory membership? I genuinely dunno. We need the expert insight of @HYUFD!
Also see my quote from the Indy. Allegedly there is kompromat. Photos
That WOULD be dangerous for any candidate
As long as she was not doing anything illegal or doing BDSM with someone other than her husband while married I doubt any such photos if they existed would damage her too much
Is this really the same poster who wouldnt hear a bad word said about Boris?
Given MPs removed Boris for his improper behaviour, members will be looking for someone a bit more straight laced now Brexit is done and Corbyn beaten which Boris was leader to achieve
A bit more straight laced is easily achieved, and delivered by both candidates. But nothing illegal and no affair in their lifetime is decent odds against for a top politician.
Other than his lockdown fine, which in itself was more a political statement than a legal one, I doubt Sunak has ever done anything illegal or had an affair. He is also teetotal
There was a profile of Sunak in a paper a couple of days ago which said "for relaxation, he likes to have a Coca Cola with his wife, on a Saturday evening"
I kid thee not. A singular can of coke. That's his vice
He is SO squeakers I wonder if HE is the one in @bondegezou's rumoured sex scandal. No one can be that vanilla
Professor Susan Michie has been made chair of the WHO's behavioural advisory group.
It's not April 1st for another seven months.
That's no accident. Given WHO is about as straight as a three-bob note, and is in hock to the CCP, they'll be delighted with her appointment.
Another thing Trump was right about, but again because of all this other shit and toxicity nobody will do anything. He was also right about the likes of ByteDance (the people who make TikTok).
A good reason not to elect a toxic shithead to be Leader of the Free World then.
It is, but people didn't seem able to say on this limited set of things Trump has a point and we agree something should be done.
He was right about lack of funding for NATO from people like Germany, as was their overdependence on Russian Gas. As was Chinese dishonesty, WHO complicity and Chinese gaining control of too many US important companies / also the trojan horse that is TikTok.
The other 360 days of the year he was talking absolute shit.
President Joe Biden’s administration is downplaying data due this week that could show the US economy contracted for a second straight quarter -- a development that would match one standard definition of a recession.
The administration’s message: what’s often called a “technical recession” isn’t necessarily a real one.
That is some proper alternative facts stuff there. Yes I know the economists don't like the simplistic idea of recession just anytime being two quarters of negative growth, but it is pretty much established convention in terms of political parlance that when it happens you have to fess up and say its a recession. Them the breaks.
Saw that one overnight. Oh, so it’s not really a recession, even if it matches the definition we’ve used for decades as being a recession. Fake News!
These are from the same people who said don't worry about us running the money printing presses 24/7, airdropping crazy amounts of money that was poorly targeted, because the west has "solved inflation"....its just transitory....its erhhhh.....
When I heard Biden's advisor saying the no more boom and bust, I mean inflation is solved, 18 months ago, you know where we were heading.
Just before 2008, when Ed Balls announced they’d abolished boom and bust, I was returning to the bank. I met one of the traders out front and told what he’d said. The trader said oh shit and dived inside to sell his personal portfolio….
OK so they only abolished boom. At least they tried.
President Joe Biden’s administration is downplaying data due this week that could show the US economy contracted for a second straight quarter -- a development that would match one standard definition of a recession.
The administration’s message: what’s often called a “technical recession” isn’t necessarily a real one.
That is some proper alternative facts stuff there. Yes I know the economists don't like the simplistic idea of recession just anytime being two quarters of negative growth, but it is pretty much established convention in terms of political parlance that when it happens you have to fess up and say its a recession. Them the breaks.
Saw that one overnight. Oh, so it’s not really a recession, even if it matches the definition we’ve used for decades as being a recession. Fake News!
These are from the same people who said don't worry about us running the money printing presses 24/7, airdropping crazy amounts of money that was poorly targeted, because the west has "solved inflation"....its just transitory....its erhhhh.....
When I heard Biden's advisor saying the no more boom and bust, I mean inflation is solved, 18 months ago, you know where we were heading.
Just before 2008, when Ed Balls announced they’d abolished boom and bust, I was returning to the bank. I met one of the traders out front and told what he’d said. The trader said oh shit and dived inside to sell his personal portfolio….
OK so they only abolished boom. At least they tried.
In case anyone missed it (I posted it at about 2am)
Which raises the question: does she not care? Took me 2 mins to google that
Is she trolling?
On the upside, looks like we’re about to have our first kinkster prime minister (I am discounting the lurid rumours about Pitt the Younger)
Maybe she's been trolled, if she'd been given it as a gift and hadn't looked to see where it was bought from.
No, she knows exactly what it means. Her dress also had bondage motifs - overt, egregious lacing on the sides
She’s a kinkster
Does anyone care? It's not even exotic now every woman in the land has read 50 Shades. The last guy (who may or may not have resigned) has a history of screwing the hired help so Liz will be the second prime minister in a row who likes sex.
Did Theresa May not enjoy sex? This will come as a crushing bow to the ego of Phillip May.
I understand sex is a very popular hobby and has been for some time. End of story for a political betting website.
The juvenile masturbators parading themselves on this thread should probably go to a different website and leave us be. I understand a range of such sites are available to suit every taste.
lol. And also: wrong
Truss is heading for victory. She is going to be the next UK PM. She’s got past the solitary debate without harm, so what’s left? A few hustings?
Realistically, the one thing that could derail her campaign now is a scandal. Now what form might such a scandal take? There were rumours in the Times - yes, the Times - that one of the leadership candidates “likes BDSM”. Thanks to my genius insight, PB now knows who this is, very probably
Two things generally cause scandals: sex and money. Sunak was nearly derailed by a money scandal. Truss?
All this has serious betting implications, as well as consequences for the nation, and the idea we should ignore it because a bunch of incels on PB get upset is frankly absurd
I'm not sure "likes BDSM" is even really much of a scandal any more, is it?
No, but I also don’t think “liking BDSM” is the sex scandal that one camp might be worried about.
It isn't. And before anyone starts shrieking about "slut shaming" I know that I don't care who she is doing or how she is doing them. Frankly if she is a fetlifer I'm more impressed than I otherwise would have been. I assume @leon is of a similar mindset.
But - and its a big but - supposedly there are scandal materials being held back to "bring down the government". Liz doing Ms Whiplash on colleagues is their business. Until the the proof of live video gets used as blackmail by hostile powers. Which is what I assume the Finland (and onwards to Russia) angle relates to...
I didn't pick up anything like this last night during the debate. And I was watching her very closely.
Its the necklace. If she was miss innocent then perhaps she saw it ebay and thought "thats a nice necklace" and has no idea what it is.
But she isn't. So she does. Good for her!
And the dress. This was the same outfit she wore last night. Check the lacing
You and I know this world. We know what this says
Now, is this prurient and sordid speculation which demeans PB?
Yes
Does it matter?
Also yes
I know enough to know that you are correct. It's an amusing story, rather than an actual scandal though.
Yes, absolutely not a scandal in itself. Tho there is apparently a sex scandal floating around out there, according to @bondegezou
As others have said, this makes me warm to Truss, somewhat. She is at ease with herself, and not shy about it. Good for her
Professor Susan Michie has been made chair of the WHO's behavioural advisory group.
It's not April 1st for another seven months.
That's no accident. Given WHO is about as straight as a three-bob note, and is in hock to the CCP, they'll be delighted with her appointment.
Another thing Trump was right about, but again because of all this other shit and toxicity nobody will do anything. He was also right about the likes of ByteDance (the people who make TikTok).
A good reason not to elect a toxic shithead to be Leader of the Free World then.
It is, but people didn't seem able to say on this limited set of things Trump has a point and we agree something should be done.
He was right about lack of funding for NATO from people like Germany, as was their overdependence on Russian Gas. As was Chinese dishonesty, WHO complicity and Chinese gaining control of too many US important companies / also the trojan horse that is TikTok.
The other 360 days of the year he was talking absolute shit.
Indeed, even shitheads can be right sometimes.
The problem with being a perpetual shithead is people assume you're wrong, even when you're not.
In case anyone missed it (I posted it at about 2am)
Which raises the question: does she not care? Took me 2 mins to google that
Is she trolling?
On the upside, looks like we’re about to have our first kinkster prime minister (I am discounting the lurid rumours about Pitt the Younger)
Maybe she's been trolled, if she'd been given it as a gift and hadn't looked to see where it was bought from.
No, she knows exactly what it means. Her dress also had bondage motifs - overt, egregious lacing on the sides
She’s a kinkster
Does anyone care? It's not even exotic now every woman in the land has read 50 Shades. The last guy (who may or may not have resigned) has a history of screwing the hired help so Liz will be the second prime minister in a row who likes sex.
Did Theresa May not enjoy sex? This will come as a crushing bow to the ego of Phillip May.
I understand sex is a very popular hobby and has been for some time. End of story for a political betting website.
The juvenile masturbators parading themselves on this thread should probably go to a different website and leave us be. I understand a range of such sites are available to suit every taste.
lol. And also: wrong
Truss is heading for victory. She is going to be the next UK PM. She’s got past the solitary debate without harm, so what’s left? A few hustings?
Realistically, the one thing that could derail her campaign now is a scandal. Now what form might such a scandal take? There were rumours in the Times - yes, the Times - that one of the leadership candidates “likes BDSM”. Thanks to my genius insight, PB now knows who this is, very probably
Two things generally cause scandals: sex and money. Sunak was nearly derailed by a money scandal. Truss?
All this has serious betting implications, as well as consequences for the nation, and the idea we should ignore it because a bunch of incels on PB get upset is frankly absurd
I'm not sure "likes BDSM" is even really much of a scandal any more, is it?
No, but I also don’t think “liking BDSM” is the sex scandal that one camp might be worried about.
Ooooh
I think there's a reasonable argument 1. That there is no Liz bomb because if there were it would have made sense to detonate it before we got down to 2 candidates (creating uncertainty about who dunnit) and 2. If detonated now, provided it is about legal acts between consenting adults, it would backfire very badly on the obvious suspect.
Who was it who, when confronted with picture in a blackmail attempt, asked for copies for his friends? For some reason thinking a politician who the Russians were having a go at??
Professor Susan Michie has been made chair of the WHO's behavioural advisory group.
It's not April 1st for another seven months.
That's no accident. Given WHO is about as straight as a three-bob note, and is in hock to the CCP, they'll be delighted with her appointment.
Another thing Trump was right about, but again because of all this other shit and toxicity nobody will do anything. He was also right about the likes of ByteDance (the people who make TikTok).
A good reason not to elect a toxic shithead to be Leader of the Free World then.
It is, but people didn't seem able to say on this limited set of things Trump has a point and we agree something should be done.
He was right about lack of funding for NATO from people like Germany, as was their overdependence on Russian Gas. As was Chinese dishonesty, WHO complicity and Chinese gaining control of too many US important companies / also the trojan horse that is TikTok.
The other 360 days of the year he was talking absolute shit.
Indeed, even shitheads can be right sometimes.
The problem with being a perpetual shithead is people assume you're wrong, even when you're not.
It was worse than presuming he was wrong, they would actively try to discredit what was clearly true or there was evidence there was a very high possibility it was true.
The problem by doing this is you give ammo to his other BS, as he points to the stuff people argued against and say look at the Fake News media, the swamp etc etc etc.
Professor Susan Michie has been made chair of the WHO's behavioural advisory group.
It's not April 1st for another seven months.
That's no accident. Given WHO is about as straight as a three-bob note, and is in hock to the CCP, they'll be delighted with her appointment.
Another thing Trump was right about, but again because of all this other shit and toxicity nobody will do anything. He was also right about the likes of ByteDance (the people who make TikTok).
A good reason not to elect a toxic shithead to be Leader of the Free World then.
Realistically, the one thing that could derail her campaign now is a scandal. Now what form might such a scandal take? There were rumours in the Times - yes, the Times - that one of the leadership candidates “likes BDSM”. Thanks to my genius insight, PB now knows who this is, very probably
I realise this is getting into conspiracy theory land, but:
If it's Sunak who likes BDSM, Truss wearing a BDSM collar at the debates to freak him out would be a real power move.
(I could possibly have chosen that last phrase more carefully.)
In case anyone missed it (I posted it at about 2am)
Which raises the question: does she not care? Took me 2 mins to google that
Is she trolling?
On the upside, looks like we’re about to have our first kinkster prime minister (I am discounting the lurid rumours about Pitt the Younger)
Maybe she's been trolled, if she'd been given it as a gift and hadn't looked to see where it was bought from.
No, she knows exactly what it means. Her dress also had bondage motifs - overt, egregious lacing on the sides
She’s a kinkster
Does anyone care? It's not even exotic now every woman in the land has read 50 Shades. The last guy (who may or may not have resigned) has a history of screwing the hired help so Liz will be the second prime minister in a row who likes sex.
Did Theresa May not enjoy sex? This will come as a crushing bow to the ego of Phillip May.
I understand sex is a very popular hobby and has been for some time. End of story for a political betting website.
The juvenile masturbators parading themselves on this thread should probably go to a different website and leave us be. I understand a range of such sites are available to suit every taste.
lol. And also: wrong
Truss is heading for victory. She is going to be the next UK PM. She’s got past the solitary debate without harm, so what’s left? A few hustings?
Realistically, the one thing that could derail her campaign now is a scandal. Now what form might such a scandal take? There were rumours in the Times - yes, the Times - that one of the leadership candidates “likes BDSM”. Thanks to my genius insight, PB now knows who this is, very probably
Two things generally cause scandals: sex and money. Sunak was nearly derailed by a money scandal. Truss?
All this has serious betting implications, as well as consequences for the nation, and the idea we should ignore it because a bunch of incels on PB get upset is frankly absurd
I'm not sure "likes BDSM" is even really much of a scandal any more, is it?
No, but I also don’t think “liking BDSM” is the sex scandal that one camp might be worried about.
Ooooh
I think there's a reasonable argument 1. That there is no Liz bomb because if there were it would have made sense to detonate it before we got down to 2 candidates (creating uncertainty about who dunnit) and 2. If detonated now, provided it is about legal acts between consenting adults, it would backfire very badly on the obvious suspect.
Who was it who, when confronted with picture in a blackmail attempt, asked for copies for his friends? For some reason thinking a politician who the Russians were having a go at??
Sort of like the excellent Tom driberg anecdote: he claimed his rival tried to smear him as gay during an election, and said that one third of electors didn't understand what they were being told, one third didn't believe it, and one third didn't mind.
Professor Susan Michie has been made chair of the WHO's behavioural advisory group.
It's not April 1st for another seven months.
That's no accident. Given WHO is about as straight as a three-bob note, and is in hock to the CCP, they'll be delighted with her appointment.
Another thing Trump was right about, but again because of all this other shit and toxicity nobody will do anything. He was also right about the likes of ByteDance (the people who make TikTok).
A good reason not to elect a toxic shithead to be Leader of the Free World then.
Hasn't Johnson relinquished his US citizenship?
Trump was also right about Germans being bloody stupid to be so reliant on Putin's gas.
Professor Susan Michie has been made chair of the WHO's behavioural advisory group.
It's not April 1st for another seven months.
That's no accident. Given WHO is about as straight as a three-bob note, and is in hock to the CCP, they'll be delighted with her appointment.
Another thing Trump was right about, but again because of all this other shit and toxicity nobody will do anything. He was also right about the likes of ByteDance (the people who make TikTok).
A good reason not to elect a toxic shithead to be Leader of the Free World then.
It is, but people didn't seem able to say on this limited set of things Trump has a point and we agree something should be done.
He was right about lack of funding for NATO from people like Germany, as was their overdependence on Russian Gas. As was Chinese dishonesty, WHO complicity and Chinese gaining control of too many US important companies / also the trojan horse that is TikTok.
The other 360 days of the year he was talking absolute shit.
Indeed, even shitheads can be right sometimes.
The problem with being a perpetual shithead is people assume you're wrong, even when you're not.
It was worse than presuming he was wrong, they would actively try to discredit what was clearly true or there was evidence there was a very high possibility it was true.
Its kind of inevitable that when the messenger is a vile, racist, shithead that talks smack every day is discredited when some of the smack turns out to be right.
Boy who cried wolf syndrome. But for shitheads instead.
In case anyone missed it (I posted it at about 2am)
Which raises the question: does she not care? Took me 2 mins to google that
Is she trolling?
On the upside, looks like we’re about to have our first kinkster prime minister (I am discounting the lurid rumours about Pitt the Younger)
Maybe she's been trolled, if she'd been given it as a gift and hadn't looked to see where it was bought from.
No, she knows exactly what it means. Her dress also had bondage motifs - overt, egregious lacing on the sides
She’s a kinkster
Does anyone care? It's not even exotic now every woman in the land has read 50 Shades. The last guy (who may or may not have resigned) has a history of screwing the hired help so Liz will be the second prime minister in a row who likes sex.
Did Theresa May not enjoy sex? This will come as a crushing bow to the ego of Phillip May.
I understand sex is a very popular hobby and has been for some time. End of story for a political betting website.
The juvenile masturbators parading themselves on this thread should probably go to a different website and leave us be. I understand a range of such sites are available to suit every taste.
lol. And also: wrong
Truss is heading for victory. She is going to be the next UK PM. She’s got past the solitary debate without harm, so what’s left? A few hustings?
Realistically, the one thing that could derail her campaign now is a scandal. Now what form might such a scandal take? There were rumours in the Times - yes, the Times - that one of the leadership candidates “likes BDSM”. Thanks to my genius insight, PB now knows who this is, very probably
Two things generally cause scandals: sex and money. Sunak was nearly derailed by a money scandal. Truss?
All this has serious betting implications, as well as consequences for the nation, and the idea we should ignore it because a bunch of incels on PB get upset is frankly absurd
I'm not sure "likes BDSM" is even really much of a scandal any more, is it?
No, but I also don’t think “liking BDSM” is the sex scandal that one camp might be worried about.
It isn't. And before anyone starts shrieking about "slut shaming" I know that I don't care who she is doing or how she is doing them. Frankly if she is a fetlifer I'm more impressed than I otherwise would have been. I assume @leon is of a similar mindset.
But - and its a big but - supposedly there are scandal materials being held back to "bring down the government". Liz doing Ms Whiplash on colleagues is their business. Until the the proof of live video gets used as blackmail by hostile powers. Which is what I assume the Finland (and onwards to Russia) angle relates to...
I didn't pick up anything like this last night during the debate. And I was watching her very closely.
Its the necklace. If she was miss innocent then perhaps she saw it ebay and thought "thats a nice necklace" and has no idea what it is.
But she isn't. So she does. Good for her!
And the dress. This was the same outfit she wore last night. Check the lacing
You and I know this world. We know what this says
Now, is this prurient and sordid speculation which demeans PB?
Yes
Does it matter?
Also yes
I know enough to know that you are correct. It's an amusing story, rather than an actual scandal though.
Yes, absolutely not a scandal in itself. Tho there is apparently a sex scandal floating around out there, according to @bondegezou
As others have said, this makes me warm to Truss, somewhat. She is at ease with herself, and not shy about it. Good for her
Professor Susan Michie has been made chair of the WHO's behavioural advisory group.
It's not April 1st for another seven months.
That's no accident. Given WHO is about as straight as a three-bob note, and is in hock to the CCP, they'll be delighted with her appointment.
Another thing Trump was right about, but again because of all this other shit and toxicity nobody will do anything. He was also right about the likes of ByteDance (the people who make TikTok).
A good reason not to elect a toxic shithead to be Leader of the Free World then.
It is, but people didn't seem able to say on this limited set of things Trump has a point and we agree something should be done.
He was right about lack of funding for NATO from people like Germany, as was their overdependence on Russian Gas. As was Chinese dishonesty, WHO complicity and Chinese gaining control of too many US important companies / also the trojan horse that is TikTok.
The other 360 days of the year he was talking absolute shit.
Indeed, even shitheads can be right sometimes.
The problem with being a perpetual shithead is people assume you're wrong, even when you're not.
It was worse than presuming he was wrong, they would actively try to discredit what was clearly true or there was evidence there was a very high possibility it was true.
The problem by doing this is you give ammo to his other BS, as he points to the stuff people argued against and say look at the Fake News media, the swamp etc etc etc.
There's a reason the term Trump Derangement Syndrome was coined.
Professor Susan Michie has been made chair of the WHO's behavioural advisory group.
It's not April 1st for another seven months.
That's no accident. Given WHO is about as straight as a three-bob note, and is in hock to the CCP, they'll be delighted with her appointment.
Another thing Trump was right about, but again because of all his other shit and toxicity nobody will do anything instantly taking the side against him. He was also right about the likes of ByteDance (the people who make TikTok).
Attempting to overthrow democracy and pushing the Big Lie that the last election was fraudulent is just a little bit bigger than "other shit". It pretty much overwhelms anything else.
Professor Susan Michie has been made chair of the WHO's behavioural advisory group.
It's not April 1st for another seven months.
That's no accident. Given WHO is about as straight as a three-bob note, and is in hock to the CCP, they'll be delighted with her appointment.
Another thing Trump was right about, but again because of all this other shit and toxicity nobody will do anything. He was also right about the likes of ByteDance (the people who make TikTok).
A good reason not to elect a toxic shithead to be Leader of the Free World then.
Hasn't Johnson relinquished his US citizenship?
Trump was also right about Germans being bloody stupid to be so reliant on Putin's gas.
I think that's a case of Trump being accidentally right for the wrong reasons. He wasn't anticipating Putin using gas as a weapon and had concerns for the welfare of European citizens. He simply wanted Europeans to buy more American gas.
If there hadn't been any American gas to sell he wouldn't have mentioned it.
Professor Susan Michie has been made chair of the WHO's behavioural advisory group.
It's not April 1st for another seven months.
That's no accident. Given WHO is about as straight as a three-bob note, and is in hock to the CCP, they'll be delighted with her appointment.
Another thing Trump was right about, but again because of all this other shit and toxicity nobody will do anything. He was also right about the likes of ByteDance (the people who make TikTok).
A good reason not to elect a toxic shithead to be Leader of the Free World then.
It is, but people didn't seem able to say on this limited set of things Trump has a point and we agree something should be done.
He was right about lack of funding for NATO from people like Germany, as was their overdependence on Russian Gas. As was Chinese dishonesty, WHO complicity and Chinese gaining control of too many US important companies / also the trojan horse that is TikTok.
The other 360 days of the year he was talking absolute shit.
Indeed, even shitheads can be right sometimes.
The problem with being a perpetual shithead is people assume you're wrong, even when you're not.
It was worse than presuming he was wrong, they would actively try to discredit what was clearly true or there was evidence there was a very high possibility it was true.
The problem by doing this is you give ammo to his other BS, as he points to the stuff people argued against and say look at the Fake News media, the swamp etc etc etc.
There's a reason the term Trump Derangement Syndrome was coined.
It was BS. Its not deranged to be against Trump, or to discount what he says.
Even when what he says is right, he came out with enough shit some of it would be right but that's no reason to be against him or to treat the minority of times he was right with the same scepticism and contempt the rest of the time.
The Mail reports that Spain is going to insist on British tourists being able to show they have £85 a day available. Not sure it's a good idea from the Spanish point of view.
Per person? For a family of five for a fortnight, that's pretty pricey.
We're off to Spain on Sunday for 18 days. So on paper that is €7,200 we need for the 4 of us. Which is utterly mental.
Yeah. When my 2 kids were little we went to Spain twice. I don't think me and the Missus could have mustered those kinds of funds. So we simply wouldn't have gone.
Iain Martin @iainmartin1 · 3h Starting to think Rishi Sunak, or his team, have made a genuinely catastrophic error on campaign strategy, misreading the situation. They decided way to get Truss was on inflation, tax and economy (even though he was Chancellor until a few weeks ago)... But...
In case anyone missed it (I posted it at about 2am)
Which raises the question: does she not care? Took me 2 mins to google that
Is she trolling?
On the upside, looks like we’re about to have our first kinkster prime minister (I am discounting the lurid rumours about Pitt the Younger)
Maybe she's been trolled, if she'd been given it as a gift and hadn't looked to see where it was bought from.
No, she knows exactly what it means. Her dress also had bondage motifs - overt, egregious lacing on the sides
She’s a kinkster
Does anyone care? It's not even exotic now every woman in the land has read 50 Shades. The last guy (who may or may not have resigned) has a history of screwing the hired help so Liz will be the second prime minister in a row who likes sex.
Did Theresa May not enjoy sex? This will come as a crushing bow to the ego of Phillip May.
I understand sex is a very popular hobby and has been for some time. End of story for a political betting website.
The juvenile masturbators parading themselves on this thread should probably go to a different website and leave us be. I understand a range of such sites are available to suit every taste.
lol. And also: wrong
Truss is heading for victory. She is going to be the next UK PM. She’s got past the solitary debate without harm, so what’s left? A few hustings?
Realistically, the one thing that could derail her campaign now is a scandal. Now what form might such a scandal take? There were rumours in the Times - yes, the Times - that one of the leadership candidates “likes BDSM”. Thanks to my genius insight, PB now knows who this is, very probably
Two things generally cause scandals: sex and money. Sunak was nearly derailed by a money scandal. Truss?
All this has serious betting implications, as well as consequences for the nation, and the idea we should ignore it because a bunch of incels on PB get upset is frankly absurd
I'm not sure "likes BDSM" is even really much of a scandal any more, is it?
No, but I also don’t think “liking BDSM” is the sex scandal that one camp might be worried about.
Ooooh
I think there's a reasonable argument 1. That there is no Liz bomb because if there were it would have made sense to detonate it before we got down to 2 candidates (creating uncertainty about who dunnit) and 2. If detonated now, provided it is about legal acts between consenting adults, it would backfire very badly on the obvious suspect.
Who was it who, when confronted with picture in a blackmail attempt, asked for copies for his friends? For some reason thinking a politician who the Russians were having a go at??
In case anyone missed it (I posted it at about 2am)
Which raises the question: does she not care? Took me 2 mins to google that
Is she trolling?
On the upside, looks like we’re about to have our first kinkster prime minister (I am discounting the lurid rumours about Pitt the Younger)
Maybe she's been trolled, if she'd been given it as a gift and hadn't looked to see where it was bought from.
No, she knows exactly what it means. Her dress also had bondage motifs - overt, egregious lacing on the sides
She’s a kinkster
Does anyone care? It's not even exotic now every woman in the land has read 50 Shades. The last guy (who may or may not have resigned) has a history of screwing the hired help so Liz will be the second prime minister in a row who likes sex.
Did Theresa May not enjoy sex? This will come as a crushing bow to the ego of Phillip May.
I understand sex is a very popular hobby and has been for some time. End of story for a political betting website.
The juvenile masturbators parading themselves on this thread should probably go to a different website and leave us be. I understand a range of such sites are available to suit every taste.
lol. And also: wrong
Truss is heading for victory. She is going to be the next UK PM. She’s got past the solitary debate without harm, so what’s left? A few hustings?
Realistically, the one thing that could derail her campaign now is a scandal. Now what form might such a scandal take? There were rumours in the Times - yes, the Times - that one of the leadership candidates “likes BDSM”. Thanks to my genius insight, PB now knows who this is, very probably
Two things generally cause scandals: sex and money. Sunak was nearly derailed by a money scandal. Truss?
All this has serious betting implications, as well as consequences for the nation, and the idea we should ignore it because a bunch of incels on PB get upset is frankly absurd
I'm not sure "likes BDSM" is even really much of a scandal any more, is it?
No, but I also don’t think “liking BDSM” is the sex scandal that one camp might be worried about.
It isn't. And before anyone starts shrieking about "slut shaming" I know that I don't care who she is doing or how she is doing them. Frankly if she is a fetlifer I'm more impressed than I otherwise would have been. I assume @leon is of a similar mindset.
But - and its a big but - supposedly there are scandal materials being held back to "bring down the government". Liz doing Ms Whiplash on colleagues is their business. Until the the proof of live video gets used as blackmail by hostile powers. Which is what I assume the Finland (and onwards to Russia) angle relates to...
I didn't pick up anything like this last night during the debate. And I was watching her very closely.
Its the necklace. If she was miss innocent then perhaps she saw it ebay and thought "thats a nice necklace" and has no idea what it is.
But she isn't. So she does. Good for her!
And the dress. This was the same outfit she wore last night. Check the lacing
You and I know this world. We know what this says
Now, is this prurient and sordid speculation which demeans PB?
Yes
Does it matter?
Also yes
I know enough to know that you are correct. It's an amusing story, rather than an actual scandal though.
Yes, absolutely not a scandal in itself. Tho there is apparently a sex scandal floating around out there, according to @bondegezou
As others have said, this makes me warm to Truss, somewhat. She is at ease with herself, and not shy about it. Good for her
I sent you a PM.
That's probably the best PM I have ever had. Danke
In case anyone missed it (I posted it at about 2am)
Which raises the question: does she not care? Took me 2 mins to google that
Is she trolling?
On the upside, looks like we’re about to have our first kinkster prime minister (I am discounting the lurid rumours about Pitt the Younger)
Maybe she's been trolled, if she'd been given it as a gift and hadn't looked to see where it was bought from.
No, she knows exactly what it means. Her dress also had bondage motifs - overt, egregious lacing on the sides
She’s a kinkster
Does anyone care? It's not even exotic now every woman in the land has read 50 Shades. The last guy (who may or may not have resigned) has a history of screwing the hired help so Liz will be the second prime minister in a row who likes sex.
Did Theresa May not enjoy sex? This will come as a crushing bow to the ego of Phillip May.
I understand sex is a very popular hobby and has been for some time. End of story for a political betting website.
The juvenile masturbators parading themselves on this thread should probably go to a different website and leave us be. I understand a range of such sites are available to suit every taste.
lol. And also: wrong
Truss is heading for victory. She is going to be the next UK PM. She’s got past the solitary debate without harm, so what’s left? A few hustings?
Realistically, the one thing that could derail her campaign now is a scandal. Now what form might such a scandal take? There were rumours in the Times - yes, the Times - that one of the leadership candidates “likes BDSM”. Thanks to my genius insight, PB now knows who this is, very probably
Two things generally cause scandals: sex and money. Sunak was nearly derailed by a money scandal. Truss?
All this has serious betting implications, as well as consequences for the nation, and the idea we should ignore it because a bunch of incels on PB get upset is frankly absurd
I'm not sure "likes BDSM" is even really much of a scandal any more, is it?
No, but I also don’t think “liking BDSM” is the sex scandal that one camp might be worried about.
It isn't. And before anyone starts shrieking about "slut shaming" I know that I don't care who she is doing or how she is doing them. Frankly if she is a fetlifer I'm more impressed than I otherwise would have been. I assume @leon is of a similar mindset.
But - and its a big but - supposedly there are scandal materials being held back to "bring down the government". Liz doing Ms Whiplash on colleagues is their business. Until the the proof of live video gets used as blackmail by hostile powers. Which is what I assume the Finland (and onwards to Russia) angle relates to...
I didn't pick up anything like this last night during the debate. And I was watching her very closely.
Its the necklace. If she was miss innocent then perhaps she saw it ebay and thought "thats a nice necklace" and has no idea what it is.
But she isn't. So she does. Good for her!
And the dress. This was the same outfit she wore last night. Check the lacing
You and I know this world. We know what this says
Now, is this prurient and sordid speculation which demeans PB?
Yes
Does it matter?
Also yes
I know enough to know that you are correct. It's an amusing story, rather than an actual scandal though.
Yes, absolutely not a scandal in itself. Tho there is apparently a sex scandal floating around out there, according to @bondegezou
As others have said, this makes me warm to Truss, somewhat. She is at ease with herself, and not shy about it. Good for her
I sent you a PM.
That's probably the best PM I have ever had. Danke
In case anyone missed it (I posted it at about 2am)
Which raises the question: does she not care? Took me 2 mins to google that
Is she trolling?
On the upside, looks like we’re about to have our first kinkster prime minister (I am discounting the lurid rumours about Pitt the Younger)
Maybe she's been trolled, if she'd been given it as a gift and hadn't looked to see where it was bought from.
No, she knows exactly what it means. Her dress also had bondage motifs - overt, egregious lacing on the sides
She’s a kinkster
Does anyone care? It's not even exotic now every woman in the land has read 50 Shades. The last guy (who may or may not have resigned) has a history of screwing the hired help so Liz will be the second prime minister in a row who likes sex.
Did Theresa May not enjoy sex? This will come as a crushing bow to the ego of Phillip May.
I understand sex is a very popular hobby and has been for some time. End of story for a political betting website.
The juvenile masturbators parading themselves on this thread should probably go to a different website and leave us be. I understand a range of such sites are available to suit every taste.
lol. And also: wrong
Truss is heading for victory. She is going to be the next UK PM. She’s got past the solitary debate without harm, so what’s left? A few hustings?
Realistically, the one thing that could derail her campaign now is a scandal. Now what form might such a scandal take? There were rumours in the Times - yes, the Times - that one of the leadership candidates “likes BDSM”. Thanks to my genius insight, PB now knows who this is, very probably
Two things generally cause scandals: sex and money. Sunak was nearly derailed by a money scandal. Truss?
All this has serious betting implications, as well as consequences for the nation, and the idea we should ignore it because a bunch of incels on PB get upset is frankly absurd
I'm not sure "likes BDSM" is even really much of a scandal any more, is it?
No, but I also don’t think “liking BDSM” is the sex scandal that one camp might be worried about.
It isn't. And before anyone starts shrieking about "slut shaming" I know that I don't care who she is doing or how she is doing them. Frankly if she is a fetlifer I'm more impressed than I otherwise would have been. I assume @leon is of a similar mindset.
But - and its a big but - supposedly there are scandal materials being held back to "bring down the government". Liz doing Ms Whiplash on colleagues is their business. Until the the proof of live video gets used as blackmail by hostile powers. Which is what I assume the Finland (and onwards to Russia) angle relates to...
I didn't pick up anything like this last night during the debate. And I was watching her very closely.
Its the necklace. If she was miss innocent then perhaps she saw it ebay and thought "thats a nice necklace" and has no idea what it is.
But she isn't. So she does. Good for her!
And the dress. This was the same outfit she wore last night. Check the lacing
You and I know this world. We know what this says
Now, is this prurient and sordid speculation which demeans PB?
Yes
Does it matter?
Also yes
I know enough to know that you are correct. It's an amusing story, rather than an actual scandal though.
Yes, absolutely not a scandal in itself. Tho there is apparently a sex scandal floating around out there, according to @bondegezou
As others have said, this makes me warm to Truss, somewhat. She is at ease with herself, and not shy about it. Good for her
I sent you a PM.
That's probably the best PM I have ever had. Danke
MUM's the word. I shall not spill any beans
Like you said, humans love a bit of gossip, especially if it's about sex, and so we're now all intensely envious of you.
In case anyone missed it (I posted it at about 2am)
Which raises the question: does she not care? Took me 2 mins to google that
Is she trolling?
On the upside, looks like we’re about to have our first kinkster prime minister (I am discounting the lurid rumours about Pitt the Younger)
Maybe she's been trolled, if she'd been given it as a gift and hadn't looked to see where it was bought from.
No, she knows exactly what it means. Her dress also had bondage motifs - overt, egregious lacing on the sides
She’s a kinkster
Does anyone care? It's not even exotic now every woman in the land has read 50 Shades. The last guy (who may or may not have resigned) has a history of screwing the hired help so Liz will be the second prime minister in a row who likes sex.
Did Theresa May not enjoy sex? This will come as a crushing bow to the ego of Phillip May.
I understand sex is a very popular hobby and has been for some time. End of story for a political betting website.
The juvenile masturbators parading themselves on this thread should probably go to a different website and leave us be. I understand a range of such sites are available to suit every taste.
lol. And also: wrong
Truss is heading for victory. She is going to be the next UK PM. She’s got past the solitary debate without harm, so what’s left? A few hustings?
Realistically, the one thing that could derail her campaign now is a scandal. Now what form might such a scandal take? There were rumours in the Times - yes, the Times - that one of the leadership candidates “likes BDSM”. Thanks to my genius insight, PB now knows who this is, very probably
Two things generally cause scandals: sex and money. Sunak was nearly derailed by a money scandal. Truss?
All this has serious betting implications, as well as consequences for the nation, and the idea we should ignore it because a bunch of incels on PB get upset is frankly absurd
I'm not sure "likes BDSM" is even really much of a scandal any more, is it?
No, but I also don’t think “liking BDSM” is the sex scandal that one camp might be worried about.
It isn't. And before anyone starts shrieking about "slut shaming" I know that I don't care who she is doing or how she is doing them. Frankly if she is a fetlifer I'm more impressed than I otherwise would have been. I assume @leon is of a similar mindset.
But - and its a big but - supposedly there are scandal materials being held back to "bring down the government". Liz doing Ms Whiplash on colleagues is their business. Until the the proof of live video gets used as blackmail by hostile powers. Which is what I assume the Finland (and onwards to Russia) angle relates to...
I didn't pick up anything like this last night during the debate. And I was watching her very closely.
Its the necklace. If she was miss innocent then perhaps she saw it ebay and thought "thats a nice necklace" and has no idea what it is.
But she isn't. So she does. Good for her!
And the dress. This was the same outfit she wore last night. Check the lacing
You and I know this world. We know what this says
Now, is this prurient and sordid speculation which demeans PB?
Yes
Does it matter?
Also yes
I know enough to know that you are correct. It's an amusing story, rather than an actual scandal though.
Yes, absolutely not a scandal in itself. Tho there is apparently a sex scandal floating around out there, according to @bondegezou
As others have said, this makes me warm to Truss, somewhat. She is at ease with herself, and not shy about it. Good for her
I sent you a PM.
That's probably the best PM I have ever had. Danke
MUM's the word. I shall not spill any beans
The use of beans is not remotely out of the question. On Fetlife I have seen some shit that would turn you WHITE...
Rishi falling into the "mansplaining" accusation trap is something I didn't expect him to do. Thought he'd be better advised. (Personally I don't think he was).
In case anyone missed it (I posted it at about 2am)
Which raises the question: does she not care? Took me 2 mins to google that
Is she trolling?
On the upside, looks like we’re about to have our first kinkster prime minister (I am discounting the lurid rumours about Pitt the Younger)
Maybe she's been trolled, if she'd been given it as a gift and hadn't looked to see where it was bought from.
No, she knows exactly what it means. Her dress also had bondage motifs - overt, egregious lacing on the sides
She’s a kinkster
Does anyone care? It's not even exotic now every woman in the land has read 50 Shades. The last guy (who may or may not have resigned) has a history of screwing the hired help so Liz will be the second prime minister in a row who likes sex.
Did Theresa May not enjoy sex? This will come as a crushing bow to the ego of Phillip May.
I understand sex is a very popular hobby and has been for some time. End of story for a political betting website.
The juvenile masturbators parading themselves on this thread should probably go to a different website and leave us be. I understand a range of such sites are available to suit every taste.
lol. And also: wrong
Truss is heading for victory. She is going to be the next UK PM. She’s got past the solitary debate without harm, so what’s left? A few hustings?
Realistically, the one thing that could derail her campaign now is a scandal. Now what form might such a scandal take? There were rumours in the Times - yes, the Times - that one of the leadership candidates “likes BDSM”. Thanks to my genius insight, PB now knows who this is, very probably
Two things generally cause scandals: sex and money. Sunak was nearly derailed by a money scandal. Truss?
All this has serious betting implications, as well as consequences for the nation, and the idea we should ignore it because a bunch of incels on PB get upset is frankly absurd
I'm not sure "likes BDSM" is even really much of a scandal any more, is it?
No, but I also don’t think “liking BDSM” is the sex scandal that one camp might be worried about.
Ooooh
I think there's a reasonable argument 1. That there is no Liz bomb because if there were it would have made sense to detonate it before we got down to 2 candidates (creating uncertainty about who dunnit) and 2. If detonated now, provided it is about legal acts between consenting adults, it would backfire very badly on the obvious suspect.
Who was it who, when confronted with picture in a blackmail attempt, asked for copies for his friends? For some reason thinking a politician who the Russians were having a go at??
The Russians don't seem to have a particularly good handle on what will outrage the voters of the UK, mind. Invading a sovereign neighbour vs attending a Pride march, or liking a bit of topping from the bottom. As an example.
In case anyone missed it (I posted it at about 2am)
Which raises the question: does she not care? Took me 2 mins to google that
Is she trolling?
On the upside, looks like we’re about to have our first kinkster prime minister (I am discounting the lurid rumours about Pitt the Younger)
Maybe she's been trolled, if she'd been given it as a gift and hadn't looked to see where it was bought from.
No, she knows exactly what it means. Her dress also had bondage motifs - overt, egregious lacing on the sides
She’s a kinkster
Does anyone care? It's not even exotic now every woman in the land has read 50 Shades. The last guy (who may or may not have resigned) has a history of screwing the hired help so Liz will be the second prime minister in a row who likes sex.
Did Theresa May not enjoy sex? This will come as a crushing bow to the ego of Phillip May.
I understand sex is a very popular hobby and has been for some time. End of story for a political betting website.
The juvenile masturbators parading themselves on this thread should probably go to a different website and leave us be. I understand a range of such sites are available to suit every taste.
lol. And also: wrong
Truss is heading for victory. She is going to be the next UK PM. She’s got past the solitary debate without harm, so what’s left? A few hustings?
Realistically, the one thing that could derail her campaign now is a scandal. Now what form might such a scandal take? There were rumours in the Times - yes, the Times - that one of the leadership candidates “likes BDSM”. Thanks to my genius insight, PB now knows who this is, very probably
Two things generally cause scandals: sex and money. Sunak was nearly derailed by a money scandal. Truss?
All this has serious betting implications, as well as consequences for the nation, and the idea we should ignore it because a bunch of incels on PB get upset is frankly absurd
I'm not sure "likes BDSM" is even really much of a scandal any more, is it?
No, but I also don’t think “liking BDSM” is the sex scandal that one camp might be worried about.
It isn't. And before anyone starts shrieking about "slut shaming" I know that I don't care who she is doing or how she is doing them. Frankly if she is a fetlifer I'm more impressed than I otherwise would have been. I assume @leon is of a similar mindset.
But - and its a big but - supposedly there are scandal materials being held back to "bring down the government". Liz doing Ms Whiplash on colleagues is their business. Until the the proof of live video gets used as blackmail by hostile powers. Which is what I assume the Finland (and onwards to Russia) angle relates to...
I didn't pick up anything like this last night during the debate. And I was watching her very closely.
Its the necklace. If she was miss innocent then perhaps she saw it ebay and thought "thats a nice necklace" and has no idea what it is.
But she isn't. So she does. Good for her!
And the dress. This was the same outfit she wore last night. Check the lacing
You and I know this world. We know what this says
Now, is this prurient and sordid speculation which demeans PB?
Yes
Does it matter?
Also yes
I know enough to know that you are correct. It's an amusing story, rather than an actual scandal though.
Yes, absolutely not a scandal in itself. Tho there is apparently a sex scandal floating around out there, according to @bondegezou
As others have said, this makes me warm to Truss, somewhat. She is at ease with herself, and not shy about it. Good for her
I sent you a PM.
What a tease.
In any case, if it means what you and @Leon say it means then she is pretty much out there in every sense because in that case every single item of clothing she is wearing is an indicator.
Or perhaps once more it is her taking us for fools that we wouldn't spot it.
In case anyone missed it (I posted it at about 2am)
Which raises the question: does she not care? Took me 2 mins to google that
Is she trolling?
On the upside, looks like we’re about to have our first kinkster prime minister (I am discounting the lurid rumours about Pitt the Younger)
Maybe she's been trolled, if she'd been given it as a gift and hadn't looked to see where it was bought from.
No, she knows exactly what it means. Her dress also had bondage motifs - overt, egregious lacing on the sides
She’s a kinkster
Does anyone care? It's not even exotic now every woman in the land has read 50 Shades. The last guy (who may or may not have resigned) has a history of screwing the hired help so Liz will be the second prime minister in a row who likes sex.
Did Theresa May not enjoy sex? This will come as a crushing bow to the ego of Phillip May.
I understand sex is a very popular hobby and has been for some time. End of story for a political betting website.
The juvenile masturbators parading themselves on this thread should probably go to a different website and leave us be. I understand a range of such sites are available to suit every taste.
lol. And also: wrong
Truss is heading for victory. She is going to be the next UK PM. She’s got past the solitary debate without harm, so what’s left? A few hustings?
Realistically, the one thing that could derail her campaign now is a scandal. Now what form might such a scandal take? There were rumours in the Times - yes, the Times - that one of the leadership candidates “likes BDSM”. Thanks to my genius insight, PB now knows who this is, very probably
Two things generally cause scandals: sex and money. Sunak was nearly derailed by a money scandal. Truss?
All this has serious betting implications, as well as consequences for the nation, and the idea we should ignore it because a bunch of incels on PB get upset is frankly absurd
I'm not sure "likes BDSM" is even really much of a scandal any more, is it?
No, but I also don’t think “liking BDSM” is the sex scandal that one camp might be worried about.
It isn't. And before anyone starts shrieking about "slut shaming" I know that I don't care who she is doing or how she is doing them. Frankly if she is a fetlifer I'm more impressed than I otherwise would have been. I assume @leon is of a similar mindset.
But - and its a big but - supposedly there are scandal materials being held back to "bring down the government". Liz doing Ms Whiplash on colleagues is their business. Until the the proof of live video gets used as blackmail by hostile powers. Which is what I assume the Finland (and onwards to Russia) angle relates to...
I didn't pick up anything like this last night during the debate. And I was watching her very closely.
Its the necklace. If she was miss innocent then perhaps she saw it ebay and thought "thats a nice necklace" and has no idea what it is.
But she isn't. So she does. Good for her!
And the dress. This was the same outfit she wore last night. Check the lacing
You and I know this world. We know what this says
Now, is this prurient and sordid speculation which demeans PB?
Yes
Does it matter?
Also yes
I know enough to know that you are correct. It's an amusing story, rather than an actual scandal though.
Yes, absolutely not a scandal in itself. Tho there is apparently a sex scandal floating around out there, according to @bondegezou
As others have said, this makes me warm to Truss, somewhat. She is at ease with herself, and not shy about it. Good for her
I sent you a PM.
Can you send us all a different one from the alternatives currently on offer?
In case anyone missed it (I posted it at about 2am)
Which raises the question: does she not care? Took me 2 mins to google that
Is she trolling?
On the upside, looks like we’re about to have our first kinkster prime minister (I am discounting the lurid rumours about Pitt the Younger)
Maybe she's been trolled, if she'd been given it as a gift and hadn't looked to see where it was bought from.
No, she knows exactly what it means. Her dress also had bondage motifs - overt, egregious lacing on the sides
She’s a kinkster
Does anyone care? It's not even exotic now every woman in the land has read 50 Shades. The last guy (who may or may not have resigned) has a history of screwing the hired help so Liz will be the second prime minister in a row who likes sex.
Did Theresa May not enjoy sex? This will come as a crushing bow to the ego of Phillip May.
I understand sex is a very popular hobby and has been for some time. End of story for a political betting website.
The juvenile masturbators parading themselves on this thread should probably go to a different website and leave us be. I understand a range of such sites are available to suit every taste.
lol. And also: wrong
Truss is heading for victory. She is going to be the next UK PM. She’s got past the solitary debate without harm, so what’s left? A few hustings?
Realistically, the one thing that could derail her campaign now is a scandal. Now what form might such a scandal take? There were rumours in the Times - yes, the Times - that one of the leadership candidates “likes BDSM”. Thanks to my genius insight, PB now knows who this is, very probably
Two things generally cause scandals: sex and money. Sunak was nearly derailed by a money scandal. Truss?
All this has serious betting implications, as well as consequences for the nation, and the idea we should ignore it because a bunch of incels on PB get upset is frankly absurd
I'm not sure "likes BDSM" is even really much of a scandal any more, is it?
No, but I also don’t think “liking BDSM” is the sex scandal that one camp might be worried about.
It isn't. And before anyone starts shrieking about "slut shaming" I know that I don't care who she is doing or how she is doing them. Frankly if she is a fetlifer I'm more impressed than I otherwise would have been. I assume @leon is of a similar mindset.
But - and its a big but - supposedly there are scandal materials being held back to "bring down the government". Liz doing Ms Whiplash on colleagues is their business. Until the the proof of live video gets used as blackmail by hostile powers. Which is what I assume the Finland (and onwards to Russia) angle relates to...
I didn't pick up anything like this last night during the debate. And I was watching her very closely.
Its the necklace. If she was miss innocent then perhaps she saw it ebay and thought "thats a nice necklace" and has no idea what it is.
But she isn't. So she does. Good for her!
And the dress. This was the same outfit she wore last night. Check the lacing
You and I know this world. We know what this says
Now, is this prurient and sordid speculation which demeans PB?
Yes
Does it matter?
Also yes
I know enough to know that you are correct. It's an amusing story, rather than an actual scandal though.
Yes, absolutely not a scandal in itself. Tho there is apparently a sex scandal floating around out there, according to @bondegezou
As others have said, this makes me warm to Truss, somewhat. She is at ease with herself, and not shy about it. Good for her
I sent you a PM.
What a tease.
In any case, if it means what you and @Leon say it means then she is pretty much out there in every sense because in that case every single item of clothing she is wearing is an indicator.
Or perhaps once more it is her taking us for fools that we wouldn't spot it.
I spotted the dress and the necklace within 30 seconds of turning on the TV
In case anyone missed it (I posted it at about 2am)
Which raises the question: does she not care? Took me 2 mins to google that
Is she trolling?
On the upside, looks like we’re about to have our first kinkster prime minister (I am discounting the lurid rumours about Pitt the Younger)
Maybe she's been trolled, if she'd been given it as a gift and hadn't looked to see where it was bought from.
No, she knows exactly what it means. Her dress also had bondage motifs - overt, egregious lacing on the sides
She’s a kinkster
Does anyone care? It's not even exotic now every woman in the land has read 50 Shades. The last guy (who may or may not have resigned) has a history of screwing the hired help so Liz will be the second prime minister in a row who likes sex.
Did Theresa May not enjoy sex? This will come as a crushing bow to the ego of Phillip May.
I understand sex is a very popular hobby and has been for some time. End of story for a political betting website.
The juvenile masturbators parading themselves on this thread should probably go to a different website and leave us be. I understand a range of such sites are available to suit every taste.
lol. And also: wrong
Truss is heading for victory. She is going to be the next UK PM. She’s got past the solitary debate without harm, so what’s left? A few hustings?
Realistically, the one thing that could derail her campaign now is a scandal. Now what form might such a scandal take? There were rumours in the Times - yes, the Times - that one of the leadership candidates “likes BDSM”. Thanks to my genius insight, PB now knows who this is, very probably
Two things generally cause scandals: sex and money. Sunak was nearly derailed by a money scandal. Truss?
All this has serious betting implications, as well as consequences for the nation, and the idea we should ignore it because a bunch of incels on PB get upset is frankly absurd
I'm not sure "likes BDSM" is even really much of a scandal any more, is it?
No, but I also don’t think “liking BDSM” is the sex scandal that one camp might be worried about.
Ooooh
I think there's a reasonable argument 1. That there is no Liz bomb because if there were it would have made sense to detonate it before we got down to 2 candidates (creating uncertainty about who dunnit) and 2. If detonated now, provided it is about legal acts between consenting adults, it would backfire very badly on the obvious suspect.
Who was it who, when confronted with picture in a blackmail attempt, asked for copies for his friends? For some reason thinking a politician who the Russians were having a go at??
Suharto? I have definitely heard this story & have a feeling it was somewhere around Indonesia?
Edit: it was Sukarno: “Before starting the blackmail, KGB invited Sukarno in a small private movie theatre and showed him the pornographic video, in which he was playing the main part. KGB agents were expecting him to get really frightened, that he would agree to cooperate with them at once, but everything happened vice versa: Sukarno fondly decided that it was a gift from the Soviet government, so he asked for more copies to take them back to Indonesia and show them in movie theatres. Sukarno said to flabbergasted agents that the people of Indonesia would be very proud of him, if they could see him doing the nasty with Russian girls.”
Rishi falling into the "mansplaining" accusation trap is something I didn't expect him to do. Thought he'd be better advised. (Personally I don't think he was).
He wasn't. Quoting someone's own words and their advisors' words back to them is not Mansplaining. But after an initial 10 minutes where she was really tetchy and unhappy with being stopped from just saying any old guff unchallenged, that position reversed.
Sunak feels like (a) he is on very solid ground factually logically and economically with his position and (b) Truss isn't. And he really isn't happy that they aren't listening to his fine reason logic and experience.
So just like Truss must have felt during the referendum...
Rishi falling into the "mansplaining" accusation trap is something I didn't expect him to do. Thought he'd be better advised. (Personally I don't think he was).
He wasn't. Quoting someone's own words and their advisors' words back to them is not Mansplaining. But after an initial 10 minutes where she was really tetchy and unhappy with being stopped from just saying any old guff unchallenged, that position reversed.
Sunak feels like (a) he is on very solid ground factually logically and economically with his position and (b) Truss isn't. And he really isn't happy that they aren't listening to his fine reason logic and experience.
So just like Truss must have felt during the referendum...
Quoting someone's words etc when its your turn to talk is not Mansplaining.
Trying not to let a woman get a word in edgewise on the other hand . . .
3. Talk about Rotten Boroughs! This faux democratic gesture gave Labour Corbyn, and now looks likely to give the Tories Truss - with similar consequences! Recipe for a bonkers, blue-rinse decision, I'm afraid.
Rishi falling into the "mansplaining" accusation trap is something I didn't expect him to do. Thought he'd be better advised. (Personally I don't think he was).
He wasn't. Quoting someone's own words and their advisors' words back to them is not Mansplaining. But after an initial 10 minutes where she was really tetchy and unhappy with being stopped from just saying any old guff unchallenged, that position reversed.
Sunak feels like (a) he is on very solid ground factually logically and economically with his position and (b) Truss isn't. And he really isn't happy that they aren't listening to his fine reason logic and experience.
So just like Truss must have felt during the referendum...
Quoting someone's words etc when its your turn to talk is not Mansplaining.
Trying not to let a woman get a word in edgewise on the other hand . . .
Thats rude, yes. But not mansplaining as it is missing the explaining element.
The problem is that the Trusster's plan is bonkers. The other problem is that she apparently is going to win, and Sunak feels like Egon as Walter Peck orders the guy to shut down the containment grid.
#StarmerOut is trending on Twitter, with about 5,000 mentions. When will the Corbynistas realise that 5,000 people on Twitter isn't an important movement of people?
In case anyone missed it (I posted it at about 2am)
Which raises the question: does she not care? Took me 2 mins to google that
Is she trolling?
On the upside, looks like we’re about to have our first kinkster prime minister (I am discounting the lurid rumours about Pitt the Younger)
Maybe she's been trolled, if she'd been given it as a gift and hadn't looked to see where it was bought from.
No, she knows exactly what it means. Her dress also had bondage motifs - overt, egregious lacing on the sides
She’s a kinkster
Does anyone care? It's not even exotic now every woman in the land has read 50 Shades. The last guy (who may or may not have resigned) has a history of screwing the hired help so Liz will be the second prime minister in a row who likes sex.
Did Theresa May not enjoy sex? This will come as a crushing bow to the ego of Phillip May.
I understand sex is a very popular hobby and has been for some time. End of story for a political betting website.
The juvenile masturbators parading themselves on this thread should probably go to a different website and leave us be. I understand a range of such sites are available to suit every taste.
lol. And also: wrong
Truss is heading for victory. She is going to be the next UK PM. She’s got past the solitary debate without harm, so what’s left? A few hustings?
Realistically, the one thing that could derail her campaign now is a scandal. Now what form might such a scandal take? There were rumours in the Times - yes, the Times - that one of the leadership candidates “likes BDSM”. Thanks to my genius insight, PB now knows who this is, very probably
Two things generally cause scandals: sex and money. Sunak was nearly derailed by a money scandal. Truss?
All this has serious betting implications, as well as consequences for the nation, and the idea we should ignore it because a bunch of incels on PB get upset is frankly absurd
I'm not sure "likes BDSM" is even really much of a scandal any more, is it?
No, but I also don’t think “liking BDSM” is the sex scandal that one camp might be worried about.
It isn't. And before anyone starts shrieking about "slut shaming" I know that I don't care who she is doing or how she is doing them. Frankly if she is a fetlifer I'm more impressed than I otherwise would have been. I assume @leon is of a similar mindset.
But - and its a big but - supposedly there are scandal materials being held back to "bring down the government". Liz doing Ms Whiplash on colleagues is their business. Until the the proof of live video gets used as blackmail by hostile powers. Which is what I assume the Finland (and onwards to Russia) angle relates to...
I didn't pick up anything like this last night during the debate. And I was watching her very closely.
Its the necklace. If she was miss innocent then perhaps she saw it ebay and thought "thats a nice necklace" and has no idea what it is.
But she isn't. So she does. Good for her!
And the dress. This was the same outfit she wore last night. Check the lacing
You and I know this world. We know what this says
Now, is this prurient and sordid speculation which demeans PB?
Yes
Does it matter?
Also yes
I know enough to know that you are correct. It's an amusing story, rather than an actual scandal though.
Yes, absolutely not a scandal in itself. Tho there is apparently a sex scandal floating around out there, according to @bondegezou
As others have said, this makes me warm to Truss, somewhat. She is at ease with herself, and not shy about it. Good for her
I sent you a PM.
What a tease.
In any case, if it means what you and @Leon say it means then she is pretty much out there in every sense because in that case every single item of clothing she is wearing is an indicator.
Or perhaps once more it is her taking us for fools that we wouldn't spot it.
I spotted the dress and the necklace within 30 seconds of turning on the TV
You can call me Sherlock, if you like
I was too traumatised by that long zoom in establishing shot where Rishi had a fixed grin that reminded me of the clown off IT.
3. Talk about Rotten Boroughs! This faux democratic gesture gave Labour Corbyn, and now looks likely to give the Tories Truss - with similar consequences! Recipe for a bonkers, blue-rinse decision, I'm afraid.
In case anyone missed it (I posted it at about 2am)
Which raises the question: does she not care? Took me 2 mins to google that
Is she trolling?
On the upside, looks like we’re about to have our first kinkster prime minister (I am discounting the lurid rumours about Pitt the Younger)
Maybe she's been trolled, if she'd been given it as a gift and hadn't looked to see where it was bought from.
No, she knows exactly what it means. Her dress also had bondage motifs - overt, egregious lacing on the sides
She’s a kinkster
Does anyone care? It's not even exotic now every woman in the land has read 50 Shades. The last guy (who may or may not have resigned) has a history of screwing the hired help so Liz will be the second prime minister in a row who likes sex.
Did Theresa May not enjoy sex? This will come as a crushing bow to the ego of Phillip May.
I understand sex is a very popular hobby and has been for some time. End of story for a political betting website.
The juvenile masturbators parading themselves on this thread should probably go to a different website and leave us be. I understand a range of such sites are available to suit every taste.
lol. And also: wrong
Truss is heading for victory. She is going to be the next UK PM. She’s got past the solitary debate without harm, so what’s left? A few hustings?
Realistically, the one thing that could derail her campaign now is a scandal. Now what form might such a scandal take? There were rumours in the Times - yes, the Times - that one of the leadership candidates “likes BDSM”. Thanks to my genius insight, PB now knows who this is, very probably
Two things generally cause scandals: sex and money. Sunak was nearly derailed by a money scandal. Truss?
All this has serious betting implications, as well as consequences for the nation, and the idea we should ignore it because a bunch of incels on PB get upset is frankly absurd
I'm not sure "likes BDSM" is even really much of a scandal any more, is it?
No, but I also don’t think “liking BDSM” is the sex scandal that one camp might be worried about.
It isn't. And before anyone starts shrieking about "slut shaming" I know that I don't care who she is doing or how she is doing them. Frankly if she is a fetlifer I'm more impressed than I otherwise would have been. I assume @leon is of a similar mindset.
But - and its a big but - supposedly there are scandal materials being held back to "bring down the government". Liz doing Ms Whiplash on colleagues is their business. Until the the proof of live video gets used as blackmail by hostile powers. Which is what I assume the Finland (and onwards to Russia) angle relates to...
I didn't pick up anything like this last night during the debate. And I was watching her very closely.
Its the necklace. If she was miss innocent then perhaps she saw it ebay and thought "thats a nice necklace" and has no idea what it is.
But she isn't. So she does. Good for her!
And the dress. This was the same outfit she wore last night. Check the lacing
You and I know this world. We know what this says
Now, is this prurient and sordid speculation which demeans PB?
Yes
Does it matter?
Also yes
I know enough to know that you are correct. It's an amusing story, rather than an actual scandal though.
Yes, absolutely not a scandal in itself. Tho there is apparently a sex scandal floating around out there, according to @bondegezou
As others have said, this makes me warm to Truss, somewhat. She is at ease with herself, and not shy about it. Good for her
I sent you a PM.
What a tease.
In any case, if it means what you and @Leon say it means then she is pretty much out there in every sense because in that case every single item of clothing she is wearing is an indicator.
Or perhaps once more it is her taking us for fools that we wouldn't spot it.
I spotted the dress and the necklace within 30 seconds of turning on the TV
You can call me Sherlock, if you like
I was too traumatised by that long zoom in establishing shot where Rishi had a fixed grin that reminded me of the clown off IT.
For a few seconds I thought the BBC had borrowed from Madame Tussauds.
#StarmerOut is trending on Twitter, with about 5,000 mentions. When will the Corbynistas realise that 5,000 people on Twitter isn't an important movement of people?
The Unions don't seem to understand that every time they bring out a statement that disagrees with the leadership, Starmer just looks more centre ground and less scary
#StarmerOut is trending on Twitter, with about 5,000 mentions. When will the Corbynistas realise that 5,000 people on Twitter isn't an important movement of people?
The Unions don't seem to understand that every time they bring out a statement that disagrees with the leadership, Starmer just looks more centre ground and less scary
How do you know they don't understand that?
Because they keep doing it?
Maybe that's exactly what they want you to think...
#StarmerOut is trending on Twitter, with about 5,000 mentions. When will the Corbynistas realise that 5,000 people on Twitter isn't an important movement of people?
The Unions don't seem to understand that every time they bring out a statement that disagrees with the leadership, Starmer just looks more centre ground and less scary
How do you know they don't understand that?
Because they keep doing it?
Maybe that's exactly what they want you to think...
Because the people that are in charge of the angry unions are nuts
Pretty sure that Truss's Chancellor will be Simon Clarke, currently Chief Secretary to the Treasury and a prominent supporter of hers. I hear that he is a very clever chap.
#StarmerOut is trending on Twitter, with about 5,000 mentions. When will the Corbynistas realise that 5,000 people on Twitter isn't an important movement of people?
They won't, because it compares favourably to fifty people at the gates of Downing Street.
Could a serious case now be made for keeping Boris on? 'Ousting him was all a bit heat of the moment', 'Do we really want to foisted with Rishi Washi or Beth Bondage?' etc. I mean: if the 1922 can change the rules to get rid of him, then surely they can manipulate things to put him back. Boris would be receptive. I'm just not now seeing it as the most outlandish possibility.
Pretty sure that Truss's Chancellor will be Simon Clarke, currently Chief Secretary to the Treasury and a prominent supporter of hers. I hear that he is a very clever chap.
Ye I've been saying that for ages. Sadly yet to find a next chancellor market as there could be some value there if he's priced at 4-6 or some such.
Could a serious case now be made for keeping Boris on? 'Ousting him was all a bit heat of the moment', 'Do we really want to foisted with Rishi Washi or Beth Bondage?' etc. I mean: if the 1922 can change the rules to get rid of him, then surely they can manipulate things to put him back. Boris would be receptive. I'm just not now seeing it as the most outlandish possibility.
Were the rules actually changed to get rid of him ?
Pretty sure that Truss's Chancellor will be Simon Clarke, currently Chief Secretary to the Treasury and a prominent supporter of hers. I hear that he is a very clever chap.
A prominent supporter of Truss and a very clever chap, you say? Something doesn't seem quite right here.
Could a serious case now be made for keeping Boris on? 'Ousting him was all a bit heat of the moment', 'Do we really want to foisted with Rishi Washi or Beth Bondage?' etc. I mean: if the 1922 can change the rules to get rid of him, then surely they can manipulate things to put him back. Boris would be receptive. I'm just not now seeing it as the most outlandish possibility.
Were the rules actually changed to get rid of him ?
I don't think they were in the end, but it was certainly mooted.
Could a serious case now be made for keeping Boris on? 'Ousting him was all a bit heat of the moment', 'Do we really want to foisted with Rishi Washi or Beth Bondage?' etc. I mean: if the 1922 can change the rules to get rid of him, then surely they can manipulate things to put him back. Boris would be receptive. I'm just not now seeing it as the most outlandish possibility.
If there's a serious scandal about one or other candidate (and who knows what would constitute "serious"), then the other candidate would either win by getting more votes, or the scandal-beset candidate withdraws and the other candidate wins by default. You'd need 2 devastating scandals before the whole election was called off. Even then, you'd probably just re-start with another MP vote. So, no, I can't see an way back for Boris.
Pretty sure that Truss's Chancellor will be Simon Clarke, currently Chief Secretary to the Treasury and a prominent supporter of hers. I hear that he is a very clever chap.
Would be a very solid pick if so. 👍
Its funny, a few weeks ago I seemed to be the only one on this site who liked the idea of Truss as PM. As it becomes more probable it seems more people are opening up to the idea.
Could a serious case now be made for keeping Boris on? 'Ousting him was all a bit heat of the moment', 'Do we really want to foisted with Rishi Washi or Beth Bondage?' etc. I mean: if the 1922 can change the rules to get rid of him, then surely they can manipulate things to put him back. Boris would be receptive. I'm just not now seeing it as the most outlandish possibility.
The only way that could possibly happen is if Truss and Sunak both withdraw, as we're into the part of the contest that is laid down in the party constitution and isn't within the control of the 1922.
Pretty sure that Truss's Chancellor will be Simon Clarke, currently Chief Secretary to the Treasury and a prominent supporter of hers. I hear that he is a very clever chap.
Would be a very solid pick if so. 👍
Its funny, a few weeks ago I seemed to be the only one on this site who liked the idea of Truss as PM. As it becomes more probable it seems more people are opening up to the idea.
They’ve been thinking about if for years. 2020 was the original end of life for the station. NASA extended it.
The problem for the Russians leaving is that the Chinese probably don’t want them involved in their station. The orbital inclination would make it very tough to get Soyuz there.
The Russians can’t afford to build their own station. The debacle with the last module just shows how bad thing have gotten for therm. They can’t actually detach their modules from the ISS anyway - the hardware for detachment was removed years back and dumped.
Without a station, Soyuz can only free fly for a short time - it has been adapted over the years for quick rendezvous with the station. Plus there is nearly no room inside, unlike Dargon or Starliner - both of which can support free flying ops.
The commercial space stations that are in the works won’t want the Russians - not after Ukraine and the sanctions.
So the end of ISS means the end of Russian manned space flight. Apart from maybe take Soyuz on a half dozen orbits every now and again.
In case anyone missed it (I posted it at about 2am)
Which raises the question: does she not care? Took me 2 mins to google that
Is she trolling?
On the upside, looks like we’re about to have our first kinkster prime minister (I am discounting the lurid rumours about Pitt the Younger)
Maybe she's been trolled, if she'd been given it as a gift and hadn't looked to see where it was bought from.
No, she knows exactly what it means. Her dress also had bondage motifs - overt, egregious lacing on the sides
She’s a kinkster
Does anyone care? It's not even exotic now every woman in the land has read 50 Shades. The last guy (who may or may not have resigned) has a history of screwing the hired help so Liz will be the second prime minister in a row who likes sex.
Did Theresa May not enjoy sex? This will come as a crushing bow to the ego of Phillip May.
I understand sex is a very popular hobby and has been for some time. End of story for a political betting website.
The juvenile masturbators parading themselves on this thread should probably go to a different website and leave us be. I understand a range of such sites are available to suit every taste.
lol. And also: wrong
Truss is heading for victory. She is going to be the next UK PM. She’s got past the solitary debate without harm, so what’s left? A few hustings?
Realistically, the one thing that could derail her campaign now is a scandal. Now what form might such a scandal take? There were rumours in the Times - yes, the Times - that one of the leadership candidates “likes BDSM”. Thanks to my genius insight, PB now knows who this is, very probably
Two things generally cause scandals: sex and money. Sunak was nearly derailed by a money scandal. Truss?
All this has serious betting implications, as well as consequences for the nation, and the idea we should ignore it because a bunch of incels on PB get upset is frankly absurd
I'm not sure "likes BDSM" is even really much of a scandal any more, is it?
No, but I also don’t think “liking BDSM” is the sex scandal that one camp might be worried about.
Ooooh
I think there's a reasonable argument 1. That there is no Liz bomb because if there were it would have made sense to detonate it before we got down to 2 candidates (creating uncertainty about who dunnit) and 2. If detonated now, provided it is about legal acts between consenting adults, it would backfire very badly on the obvious suspect.
Who was it who, when confronted with picture in a blackmail attempt, asked for copies for his friends? For some reason thinking a politician who the Russians were having a go at??
Suharto? I have definitely heard this story & have a feeling it was somewhere around Indonesia?
Edit: it was Sukarno: “Before starting the blackmail, KGB invited Sukarno in a small private movie theatre and showed him the pornographic video, in which he was playing the main part. KGB agents were expecting him to get really frightened, that he would agree to cooperate with them at once, but everything happened vice versa: Sukarno fondly decided that it was a gift from the Soviet government, so he asked for more copies to take them back to Indonesia and show them in movie theatres. Sukarno said to flabbergasted agents that the people of Indonesia would be very proud of him, if they could see him doing the nasty with Russian girls.”
Pretty sure that Truss's Chancellor will be Simon Clarke, currently Chief Secretary to the Treasury and a prominent supporter of hers. I hear that he is a very clever chap.
Did you hear that from Simon Clarke? He is a beanpole unpopular with the rest of the Teesside Tories (who have a proud track record of ousting colleagues who cross them). He gets wheeled out onto the media as moron meat to say whatever crap is the Downing Street spin line, with a painful track record of the thing he sincerely insisted was God's honest truth being revealed to be a pack of lies that everyone knew was a lie by lunchtime.
If nothing else a very clever chap would keep the local associations on side and not make a spectacle of oneself on the telly. Then again they are talking him up as Chancellor so maybe he has been clever.
Can you imagine it though? He'll be out trying to explain why the IMF and OBR are wrong about the disastrous impact of borrowing to cut taxes, and be undermined to a stand by the Treasury mandarins who take short shrift with being blamed for not being insane like their political masters.
On topic, "mansplaining" is one of those words that wokeist types have been using indiscriminately for long enough that the in-use definition has broadened to the point where the word is now largely meaningless ("fascist" is another good example).
The original meaning is very specific to a man explaining something to a woman that she already understands, often as well (or better) than the man. It seems to be being used in this case to mean a mixture of Sunak speaking over Truss, being dismissive of what she was saying, and generally being aggressive in his manner.
None of which is necessarily unreasonable in context (and in any event seems to have done Sunak some damage). The interesting question for me is this: is the argument that Sunak would have been more deferential to a male opponent, or is it that he wouldn't have been, but should have showed a female opponent more respect? If it's the former, then that feels like a legitimate argument about implicit sexism. If it's the latter, then the argument is anti-equality rather than pro-.
#StarmerOut is trending on Twitter, with about 5,000 mentions. When will the Corbynistas realise that 5,000 people on Twitter isn't an important movement of people?
The Unions don't seem to understand that every time they bring out a statement that disagrees with the leadership, Starmer just looks more centre ground and less scary
How do you know they don't understand that?
Because they keep doing it?
Maybe that's exactly what they want you to think...
Because the people that are in charge of the angry unions are nuts
I mean, I think that, even though I don't necessarily agree they are actively stupid.
Could a serious case now be made for keeping Boris on? 'Ousting him was all a bit heat of the moment', 'Do we really want to foisted with Rishi Washi or Beth Bondage?' etc. I mean: if the 1922 can change the rules to get rid of him, then surely they can manipulate things to put him back. Boris would be receptive. I'm just not now seeing it as the most outlandish possibility.
As Johnson hasn't resigned there is nothing constitutional blocking him from standing in the contest. OK so he hasn't and therefore isn't in it, but the rules only say that a resigned leader can't stand.
I assume that is the clause that the mentalist legal challenge will go after.
Pretty sure that Truss's Chancellor will be Simon Clarke, currently Chief Secretary to the Treasury and a prominent supporter of hers. I hear that he is a very clever chap.
Did you hear that from Simon Clarke? He is a beanpole unpopular with the rest of the Teesside Tories (who have a proud track record of ousting colleagues who cross them). He gets wheeled out onto the media as moron meat to say whatever crap is the Downing Street spin line, with a painful track record of the thing he sincerely insisted was God's honest truth being revealed to be a pack of lies that everyone knew was a lie by lunchtime.
If nothing else a very clever chap would keep the local associations on side and not make a spectacle of oneself on the telly. Then again they are talking him up as Chancellor so maybe he has been clever.
Can you imagine it though? He'll be out trying to explain why the IMF and OBR are wrong about the disastrous impact of borrowing to cut taxes, and be undermined to a stand by the Treasury mandarins who take short shrift with being blamed for not being insane like their political masters.
Allegedly only sent to the Treasury to troll Sunak with his height (6'7")
Rishi falling into the "mansplaining" accusation trap is something I didn't expect him to do. Thought he'd be better advised. (Personally I don't think he was).
He wasn't. Quoting someone's own words and their advisors' words back to them is not Mansplaining. But after an initial 10 minutes where she was really tetchy and unhappy with being stopped from just saying any old guff unchallenged, that position reversed.
Sunak feels like (a) he is on very solid ground factually logically and economically with his position and (b) Truss isn't. And he really isn't happy that they aren't listening to his fine reason logic and experience.
So just like Truss must have felt during the referendum...
Quoting someone's words etc when its your turn to talk is not Mansplaining.
Trying not to let a woman get a word in edgewise on the other hand . . .
Thats rude, yes. But not mansplaining as it is missing the explaining element.
The problem is that the Trusster's plan is bonkers. The other problem is that she apparently is going to win, and Sunak feels like Egon as Walter Peck orders the guy to shut down the containment grid.
Let me be clear about this. I very much prefer Rishi's position on economic policy and I worry about the lack of margin for error that Truss's plans leave (basically zero). So many things have gone unexpectedly wrong in recent years this seems very unwise to me.
But it is worth noting that the UK economy has a GDP approaching £3trn. Her "wild" tax plans amount to about £30bn or round about 1% of GDP. Government spending this year is edging towards £1,100bn making £30bn something like 2.7% of government spending or, if you want to look at it another way, just under 10 days of spending out of the year.
If you take inflation into account it is more likely that these numbers will come down rather than up. Like most modern politics this is the law of relatively small differences writ large. The gap between her and Sunak is a bit more than a rounding error but its not much more.
Could a serious case now be made for keeping Boris on? 'Ousting him was all a bit heat of the moment', 'Do we really want to foisted with Rishi Washi or Beth Bondage?' etc. I mean: if the 1922 can change the rules to get rid of him, then surely they can manipulate things to put him back. Boris would be receptive. I'm just not now seeing it as the most outlandish possibility.
As Johnson hasn't resigned
He has. We went through this earlier in the thread.
Pretty sure that Truss's Chancellor will be Simon Clarke, currently Chief Secretary to the Treasury and a prominent supporter of hers. I hear that he is a very clever chap.
Did you hear that from Simon Clarke? He is a beanpole unpopular with the rest of the Teesside Tories (who have a proud track record of ousting colleagues who cross them). He gets wheeled out onto the media as moron meat to say whatever crap is the Downing Street spin line, with a painful track record of the thing he sincerely insisted was God's honest truth being revealed to be a pack of lies that everyone knew was a lie by lunchtime.
If nothing else a very clever chap would keep the local associations on side and not make a spectacle of oneself on the telly. Then again they are talking him up as Chancellor so maybe he has been clever.
Can you imagine it though? He'll be out trying to explain why the IMF and OBR are wrong about the disastrous impact of borrowing to cut taxes, and be undermined to a stand by the Treasury mandarins who take short shrift with being blamed for not being insane like their political masters.
Allegedly only sent to the Treasury to troll Sunak with his height (6'7")
Could a serious case now be made for keeping Boris on? 'Ousting him was all a bit heat of the moment', 'Do we really want to foisted with Rishi Washi or Beth Bondage?' etc. I mean: if the 1922 can change the rules to get rid of him, then surely they can manipulate things to put him back. Boris would be receptive. I'm just not now seeing it as the most outlandish possibility.
As Johnson hasn't resigned
He has. We went through this earlier in the thread.
Do you have a pointer to the relevant part of the thread? Thanks.
Pretty sure that Truss's Chancellor will be Simon Clarke, currently Chief Secretary to the Treasury and a prominent supporter of hers. I hear that he is a very clever chap.
Would be a very solid pick if so. 👍
Its funny, a few weeks ago I seemed to be the only one on this site who liked the idea of Truss as PM. As it becomes more probable it seems more people are opening up to the idea.
If i had a vote it would go to Rishi, but King Canute had a point. This is done.
Could a serious case now be made for keeping Boris on? 'Ousting him was all a bit heat of the moment', 'Do we really want to foisted with Rishi Washi or Beth Bondage?' etc. I mean: if the 1922 can change the rules to get rid of him, then surely they can manipulate things to put him back. Boris would be receptive. I'm just not now seeing it as the most outlandish possibility.
As Johnson hasn't resigned
He has. We went through this earlier in the thread.
FUCKING HELL
Ann goes into a room and puts her doll in the box. She then leaves. Belinda enters the room, takes the doll out of the box and puts it in the chest of drawers. She leaves. Ann re enters the room to retrieve her doll. Does she look first in the box, or the chest of drawers?
In case anyone missed it (I posted it at about 2am)
Which raises the question: does she not care? Took me 2 mins to google that
Is she trolling?
On the upside, looks like we’re about to have our first kinkster prime minister (I am discounting the lurid rumours about Pitt the Younger)
Maybe she's been trolled, if she'd been given it as a gift and hadn't looked to see where it was bought from.
No, she knows exactly what it means. Her dress also had bondage motifs - overt, egregious lacing on the sides
She’s a kinkster
Does anyone care? It's not even exotic now every woman in the land has read 50 Shades. The last guy (who may or may not have resigned) has a history of screwing the hired help so Liz will be the second prime minister in a row who likes sex.
Did Theresa May not enjoy sex? This will come as a crushing bow to the ego of Phillip May.
I understand sex is a very popular hobby and has been for some time. End of story for a political betting website.
The juvenile masturbators parading themselves on this thread should probably go to a different website and leave us be. I understand a range of such sites are available to suit every taste.
lol. And also: wrong
Truss is heading for victory. She is going to be the next UK PM. She’s got past the solitary debate without harm, so what’s left? A few hustings?
Realistically, the one thing that could derail her campaign now is a scandal. Now what form might such a scandal take? There were rumours in the Times - yes, the Times - that one of the leadership candidates “likes BDSM”. Thanks to my genius insight, PB now knows who this is, very probably
Two things generally cause scandals: sex and money. Sunak was nearly derailed by a money scandal. Truss?
All this has serious betting implications, as well as consequences for the nation, and the idea we should ignore it because a bunch of incels on PB get upset is frankly absurd
I'm not sure "likes BDSM" is even really much of a scandal any more, is it?
No, but I also don’t think “liking BDSM” is the sex scandal that one camp might be worried about.
It isn't. And before anyone starts shrieking about "slut shaming" I know that I don't care who she is doing or how she is doing them. Frankly if she is a fetlifer I'm more impressed than I otherwise would have been. I assume @leon is of a similar mindset.
But - and its a big but - supposedly there are scandal materials being held back to "bring down the government". Liz doing Ms Whiplash on colleagues is their business. Until the the proof of live video gets used as blackmail by hostile powers. Which is what I assume the Finland (and onwards to Russia) angle relates to...
I didn't pick up anything like this last night during the debate. And I was watching her very closely.
Its the necklace. If she was miss innocent then perhaps she saw it ebay and thought "thats a nice necklace" and has no idea what it is.
But she isn't. So she does. Good for her!
And the dress. This was the same outfit she wore last night. Check the lacing
You and I know this world. We know what this says
Now, is this prurient and sordid speculation which demeans PB?
Yes
Does it matter?
Also yes
I know enough to know that you are correct. It's an amusing story, rather than an actual scandal though.
Yes, absolutely not a scandal in itself. Tho there is apparently a sex scandal floating around out there, according to @bondegezou
As others have said, this makes me warm to Truss, somewhat. She is at ease with herself, and not shy about it. Good for her
I sent you a PM.
What a tease.
In any case, if it means what you and @Leon say it means then she is pretty much out there in every sense because in that case every single item of clothing she is wearing is an indicator.
Or perhaps once more it is her taking us for fools that we wouldn't spot it.
I think she's just very much at ease with herself.
Could a serious case now be made for keeping Boris on? 'Ousting him was all a bit heat of the moment', 'Do we really want to foisted with Rishi Washi or Beth Bondage?' etc. I mean: if the 1922 can change the rules to get rid of him, then surely they can manipulate things to put him back. Boris would be receptive. I'm just not now seeing it as the most outlandish possibility.
As Johnson hasn't resigned
He has. We went through this earlier in the thread.
Do you have a pointer to the relevant part of the thread? Thanks.
Rishi falling into the "mansplaining" accusation trap is something I didn't expect him to do. Thought he'd be better advised. (Personally I don't think he was).
He wasn't. Quoting someone's own words and their advisors' words back to them is not Mansplaining. But after an initial 10 minutes where she was really tetchy and unhappy with being stopped from just saying any old guff unchallenged, that position reversed.
Sunak feels like (a) he is on very solid ground factually logically and economically with his position and (b) Truss isn't. And he really isn't happy that they aren't listening to his fine reason logic and experience.
So just like Truss must have felt during the referendum...
Quoting someone's words etc when its your turn to talk is not Mansplaining.
Trying not to let a woman get a word in edgewise on the other hand . . .
Thats rude, yes. But not mansplaining as it is missing the explaining element.
The problem is that the Trusster's plan is bonkers. The other problem is that she apparently is going to win, and Sunak feels like Egon as Walter Peck orders the guy to shut down the containment grid.
Let me be clear about this. I very much prefer Rishi's position on economic policy and I worry about the lack of margin for error that Truss's plans leave (basically zero). So many things have gone unexpectedly wrong in recent years this seems very unwise to me.
But it is worth noting that the UK economy has a GDP approaching £3trn. Her "wild" tax plans amount to about £30bn or round about 1% of GDP. Government spending this year is edging towards £1,100bn making £30bn something like 2.7% of government spending or, if you want to look at it another way, just under 10 days of spending out of the year.
If you take inflation into account it is more likely that these numbers will come down rather than up. Like most modern politics this is the law of relatively small differences writ large. The gap between her and Sunak is a bit more than a rounding error but its not much more.
Indeed, its also worth noting that "sensible" Sunak is planning pre-election tax cuts already too, so the gap is even smaller.
Rishi falling into the "mansplaining" accusation trap is something I didn't expect him to do. Thought he'd be better advised. (Personally I don't think he was).
He wasn't. Quoting someone's own words and their advisors' words back to them is not Mansplaining. But after an initial 10 minutes where she was really tetchy and unhappy with being stopped from just saying any old guff unchallenged, that position reversed.
Sunak feels like (a) he is on very solid ground factually logically and economically with his position and (b) Truss isn't. And he really isn't happy that they aren't listening to his fine reason logic and experience.
So just like Truss must have felt during the referendum...
Quoting someone's words etc when its your turn to talk is not Mansplaining.
Trying not to let a woman get a word in edgewise on the other hand . . .
Thats rude, yes. But not mansplaining as it is missing the explaining element.
The problem is that the Trusster's plan is bonkers. The other problem is that she apparently is going to win, and Sunak feels like Egon as Walter Peck orders the guy to shut down the containment grid.
Let me be clear about this. I very much prefer Rishi's position on economic policy and I worry about the lack of margin for error that Truss's plans leave (basically zero). So many things have gone unexpectedly wrong in recent years this seems very unwise to me.
But it is worth noting that the UK economy has a GDP approaching £3trn. Her "wild" tax plans amount to about £30bn or round about 1% of GDP. Government spending this year is edging towards £1,100bn making £30bn something like 2.7% of government spending or, if you want to look at it another way, just under 10 days of spending out of the year.
If you take inflation into account it is more likely that these numbers will come down rather than up. Like most modern politics this is the law of relatively small differences writ large. The gap between her and Sunak is a bit more than a rounding error but its not much more.
It makes you wonder why Sunak is so adamant about this. It is what is killing him.
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I kid thee not. A singular can of coke. That's his vice
He is SO squeakers I wonder if HE is the one in @bondegezou's rumoured sex scandal. No one can be that vanilla
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Betfair next prime minister
1.29 Liz Truss 78%
4.8 Rishi Sunak 21%
Next Conservative leader
1.27 Liz Truss 79%
4.8 Rishi Sunak 21%
If you don't have any accommodation or return flights, I think then you might be having to show some funds. But try going to somewhere like the US with no plans, you will be getting a asked a lot of questions.
https://theweek.com/pete-buttigieg/1007477/pete-buttigieg-is-the-most-favored-member-of-bidens-cabinet-poll-finds
He was right about lack of funding for NATO from people like Germany, as was their overdependence on Russian Gas. As was Chinese dishonesty, WHO complicity and Chinese gaining control of too many US important companies / also the trojan horse that is TikTok.
The other 360 days of the year he was talking absolute shit.
As others have said, this makes me warm to Truss, somewhat. She is at ease with herself, and not shy about it. Good for her
The problem with being a perpetual shithead is people assume you're wrong, even when you're not.
The problem by doing this is you give ammo to his other BS, as he points to the stuff people argued against and say look at the Fake News media, the swamp etc etc etc.
If it's Sunak who likes BDSM, Truss wearing a BDSM collar at the debates to freak him out would be a real power move.
(I could possibly have chosen that last phrase more carefully.)
Boy who cried wolf syndrome. But for shitheads instead.
If there hadn't been any American gas to sell he wouldn't have mentioned it.
Even when what he says is right, he came out with enough shit some of it would be right but that's no reason to be against him or to treat the minority of times he was right with the same scepticism and contempt the rest of the time.
I don't think me and the Missus could have mustered those kinds of funds.
So we simply wouldn't have gone.
@iainmartin1
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Starting to think Rishi Sunak, or his team, have made a genuinely catastrophic error on campaign strategy, misreading the situation. They decided way to get Truss was on inflation, tax and economy (even though he was Chancellor until a few weeks ago)... But...
https://twitter.com/iainmartin1/status/1551865462908194819
MUM's the word. I shall not spill any beans
I thought the word was GREASE.
Invading a sovereign neighbour vs attending a Pride march, or liking a bit of topping from the bottom.
As an example.
In any case, if it means what you and @Leon say it means then she is pretty much out there in every sense because in that case every single item of clothing she is wearing is an indicator.
Or perhaps once more it is her taking us for fools that we wouldn't spot it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/26/science/russia-space-station.html?referringSource=articleShare
You can call me Sherlock, if you like
Edit: it was Sukarno: “Before starting the blackmail, KGB invited Sukarno in a small private movie theatre and showed him the pornographic video, in which he was playing the main part. KGB agents were expecting him to get really frightened, that he would agree to cooperate with them at once, but everything happened vice versa: Sukarno fondly decided that it was a gift from the Soviet government, so he asked for more copies to take them back to Indonesia and show them in movie theatres. Sukarno said to flabbergasted agents that the people of Indonesia would be very proud of him, if they could see him doing the nasty with Russian girls.”
Sunak feels like (a) he is on very solid ground factually logically and economically with his position and (b) Truss isn't. And he really isn't happy that they aren't listening to his fine reason logic and experience.
So just like Truss must have felt during the referendum...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62299490
Trying not to let a woman get a word in edgewise on the other hand . . .
https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1551914821754437632
The problem is that the Trusster's plan is bonkers. The other problem is that she apparently is going to win, and Sunak feels like Egon as Walter Peck orders the guy to shut down the containment grid.
Because they keep doing it?
Maybe that's exactly what they want you to think...
Its funny, a few weeks ago I seemed to be the only one on this site who liked the idea of Truss as PM. As it becomes more probable it seems more people are opening up to the idea.
The problem for the Russians leaving is that the Chinese probably don’t want them involved in their station. The orbital inclination would make it very tough to get Soyuz there.
The Russians can’t afford to build their own station. The debacle with the last module just shows how bad thing have gotten for therm. They can’t actually detach their modules from the ISS anyway - the hardware for detachment was removed years back and dumped.
Without a station, Soyuz can only free fly for a short time - it has been adapted over the years for quick rendezvous with the station. Plus there is nearly no room inside, unlike Dargon or Starliner - both of which can support free flying ops.
The commercial space stations that are in the works won’t want the Russians - not after Ukraine and the sanctions.
So the end of ISS means the end of Russian manned space flight. Apart from maybe take Soyuz on a half dozen orbits every now and again.
If nothing else a very clever chap would keep the local associations on side and not make a spectacle of oneself on the telly. Then again they are talking him up as Chancellor so maybe he has been clever.
Can you imagine it though? He'll be out trying to explain why the IMF and OBR are wrong about the disastrous impact of borrowing to cut taxes, and be undermined to a stand by the Treasury mandarins who take short shrift with being blamed for not being insane like their political masters.
The original meaning is very specific to a man explaining something to a woman that she already understands, often as well (or better) than the man. It seems to be being used in this case to mean a mixture of Sunak speaking over Truss, being dismissive of what she was saying, and generally being aggressive in his manner.
None of which is necessarily unreasonable in context (and in any event seems to have done Sunak some damage). The interesting question for me is this: is the argument that Sunak would have been more deferential to a male opponent, or is it that he wouldn't have been, but should have showed a female opponent more respect? If it's the former, then that feels like a legitimate argument about implicit sexism. If it's the latter, then the argument is anti-equality rather than pro-.
I'm just surprised that you do.
I assume that is the clause that the mentalist legal challenge will go after.
But it is worth noting that the UK economy has a GDP approaching £3trn. Her "wild" tax plans amount to about £30bn or round about 1% of GDP. Government spending this year is edging towards £1,100bn making £30bn something like 2.7% of government spending or, if you want to look at it another way, just under 10 days of spending out of the year.
If you take inflation into account it is more likely that these numbers will come down rather than up. Like most modern politics this is the law of relatively small differences writ large. The gap between her and Sunak is a bit more than a rounding error but its not much more.
Ann goes into a room and puts her doll in the box. She then leaves.
Belinda enters the room, takes the doll out of the box and puts it in the chest of drawers. She leaves.
Ann re enters the room to retrieve her doll.
Does she look first in the box, or the chest of drawers?
Her stiffness might actually be a boon
Gareth Roberts" (£)
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/liz-truss-is-wooden-and-it-works