The Benny Hill theme tune has been blasted outside Parliament live on TV ahead of Boris Johnson's resignation – and it turns out Hugh Grant was behind it"
What price Hugh Grant playing Boris in a biopic (and in a wig)?
Isn't he, er, a little petit?
Round the waist, I mean.
Yes, he would need to put on a good deal of muscle to be realistic in the role.
Yep, really get with the Charles Atlas springy thing. Or just get him to do a remake of the Frank Launder film Wee Geordie. All the muscle needed to do a Boris!
Charles Atlas?
Would need less korma and more Tim Curry.
"I'm building a man With blond hair and a tan Who'll be good for relieving my...........tension"
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
He's even more nailed on to lose his seat than Boris Johnson.
Ah, that's a pity.
He's in a seat that voted Remain, he's 8% ahead of Labour with 15% LDs and Greens to squeeze.
Do we think Barclay will run? Done lots of mid ranking jobs without making a particular meds or indeed doing anything in particular, seems affable, well.presentef, very loyal to various PMs. Brexity. Like a male Mordaumt, a lot of projection could be done onto him.
If he went for it, could be the closest facsimile to a Major type candidate?
I don't think Barclay would make a John Major tribute band in an Accrington pub on a wet Thursday.
If he ran, how would you tell? Can you be sure he actually exists. Could he be a Tibetan tulpa or thought form?
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
He's even more nailed on to lose his seat than Boris Johnson.
Ah, that's a pity.
No it isn't. It's such a splendid idea it should be 'Good News' slot on Thought for the Day.
I think 3 months as defence secretary was as high as she went.
Of all the candidates, the one where you can see them winning and then something going badly wrong within 12 months because of inexperience would be Penny Mordaunt.
If I were the Conservatives I'd forget hair and gender and new and exciting and and and..
Just focus on doing a bloody good job, and pick an experienced candidate.
Wallace. Javid. Saj. Hunt. Maybe Tugendhat if they want to roll the dice on someone sensible.
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
Why do I keep feeling I shall have to emigrate to North Korea to be sure of having someone sensible in charge?
The mind boggles at the thought of having this fundamentalist pre Victorian intensely neurotic unstable idealist anywhere near the levers of power.
I suggest going easier on the booze if you do feel that way. Whatever their faults, the Conservatives are not the Communist Party of North Korea.
The Benny Hill theme tune has been blasted outside Parliament live on TV ahead of Boris Johnson's resignation – and it turns out Hugh Grant was behind it"
What price Hugh Grant playing Boris in a biopic (and in a wig)?
Isn't he, er, a little petit?
Round the waist, I mean.
Yes, he would need to put on a good deal of muscle to be realistic in the role.
Yep, really get with the Charles Atlas springy thing. Or just get him to do a remake of the Frank Launder film Wee Geordie. All the muscle needed to do a Boris!
Charles Atlas?
Would need less korma and more Tim Curry.
"I'm building a man With blond hair and a tan Who'll be good for relieving my...........tension"
Went to the stage show in Edinburgh a few months ago, courtesy of my daughter. Don’t think I have ever enjoyed a show so much. Phantom came close.
Do we think Barclay will run? Done lots of mid ranking jobs without making a particular meds or indeed doing anything in particular, seems affable, well.presentef, very loyal to various PMs. Brexity. Like a male Mordaumt, a lot of projection could be done onto him.
If he went for it, could be the closest facsimile to a Major type candidate?
I don't think Barclay would make a John Major tribute band in an Accrington pub on a wet Thursday.
If he ran, how would you tell? Can you be sure he actually exists. Could he be a Tibetan tulpa or thought form?
John Major did win his contest though.
Exactly. That is one huge difference (among many) between John Major, who actually exists and the non existent thought form that is Barclay.
The Benny Hill theme tune has been blasted outside Parliament live on TV ahead of Boris Johnson's resignation – and it turns out Hugh Grant was behind it"
What price Hugh Grant playing Boris in a biopic (and in a wig)?
Isn't he, er, a little petit?
Round the waist, I mean.
Yes, he would need to put on a good deal of muscle to be realistic in the role.
Yep, really get with the Charles Atlas springy thing. Or just get him to do a remake of the Frank Launder film Wee Geordie. All the muscle needed to do a Boris!
Charles Atlas?
Would need less korma and more Tim Curry.
CA is this chap here. Obvs the guru for your hero Boris. Solid muscle, all the way round the 44" waist.
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
Why do I keep feeling I shall have to emigrate to North Korea to be sure of having someone sensible in charge?
The mind boggles at the thought of having this fundamentalist pre Victorian intensely neurotic unstable idealist anywhere near the levers of power.
I suggest going easier on the booze if you do feel that way. Whatever their faults, the Conservatives are not the Communist Party of North Korea.
No. The NKs don't look like an escapee from a Whitby cosplay weekend.
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
Why do I keep feeling I shall have to emigrate to North Korea to be sure of having someone sensible in charge?
The mind boggles at the thought of having this fundamentalist pre Victorian intensely neurotic unstable idealist anywhere near the levers of power.
I suggest going easier on the booze if you do feel that way. Whatever their faults, the Conservatives are not the Communist Party of North Korea.
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
Why do I keep feeling I shall have to emigrate to North Korea to be sure of having someone sensible in charge?
The mind boggles at the thought of having this fundamentalist pre Victorian intensely neurotic unstable idealist anywhere near the levers of power.
I suggest going easier on the booze if you do feel that way. Whatever their faults, the Conservatives are not the Communist Party of North Korea.
The Benny Hill theme tune has been blasted outside Parliament live on TV ahead of Boris Johnson's resignation – and it turns out Hugh Grant was behind it"
What price Hugh Grant playing Boris in a biopic (and in a wig)?
Isn't he, er, a little petit?
Round the waist, I mean.
Yes, he would need to put on a good deal of muscle to be realistic in the role.
Yep, really get with the Charles Atlas springy thing. Or just get him to do a remake of the Frank Launder film Wee Geordie. All the muscle needed to do a Boris!
Charles Atlas?
Would need less korma and more Tim Curry.
CA is this chap here. Obvs the guru for your hero Boris. Solid muscle, all the way round the 44" waist.
Do we think Barclay will run? Done lots of mid ranking jobs without making a particular meds or indeed doing anything in particular, seems affable, well.presentef, very loyal to various PMs. Brexity. Like a male Mordaumt, a lot of projection could be done onto him.
If he went for it, could be the closest facsimile to a Major type candidate?
I don't think Barclay would make a John Major tribute band in an Accrington pub on a wet Thursday.
If he ran, how would you tell? Can you be sure he actually exists. Could he be a Tibetan tulpa or thought form?
Pithy, but sort of echoes my point.
More loyal than Nick Palmer on Mogadon, about third most popular on the ConHome survey, a majority of 56% (merits a Ceefax style: FIFTY-SIX), chief sec to the Treasury, the minister in place when Brexit got done..
Do we think Barclay will run? Done lots of mid ranking jobs without making a particular meds or indeed doing anything in particular, seems affable, well.presentef, very loyal to various PMs. Brexity. Like a male Mordaumt, a lot of projection could be done onto him.
If he went for it, could be the closest facsimile to a Major type candidate?
I don't think Barclay would make a John Major tribute band in an Accrington pub on a wet Thursday.
If he ran, how would you tell? Can you be sure he actually exists. Could he be a Tibetan tulpa or thought form?
Pithy, but sort of echoes my point.
More loyal than Nick Palmer on Mogadon, about third most popular on the ConHome survey, a majority of 56% (merits a Ceefax style: FIFTY-SIX), chief sec to the Treasury, the minister in place when Brexit got done..
The Benny Hill theme tune has been blasted outside Parliament live on TV ahead of Boris Johnson's resignation – and it turns out Hugh Grant was behind it"
What price Hugh Grant playing Boris in a biopic (and in a wig)?
Isn't he, er, a little petit?
Round the waist, I mean.
Yes, he would need to put on a good deal of muscle to be realistic in the role.
Yep, really get with the Charles Atlas springy thing. Or just get him to do a remake of the Frank Launder film Wee Geordie. All the muscle needed to do a Boris!
Charles Atlas?
Would need less korma and more Tim Curry.
CA is this chap here. Obvs the guru for your hero Boris. Solid muscle, all the way round the 44" waist.
The Benny Hill theme tune has been blasted outside Parliament live on TV ahead of Boris Johnson's resignation – and it turns out Hugh Grant was behind it"
What price Hugh Grant playing Boris in a biopic (and in a wig)?
Isn't he, er, a little petit?
Round the waist, I mean.
Yes, he would need to put on a good deal of muscle to be realistic in the role.
Yep, really get with the Charles Atlas springy thing. Or just get him to do a remake of the Frank Launder film Wee Geordie. All the muscle needed to do a Boris!
Charles Atlas?
Would need less korma and more Tim Curry.
CA is this chap here. Obvs the guru for your hero Boris. Solid muscle, all the way round the 44" waist.
The Benny Hill theme tune has been blasted outside Parliament live on TV ahead of Boris Johnson's resignation – and it turns out Hugh Grant was behind it"
What price Hugh Grant playing Boris in a biopic (and in a wig)?
Isn't he, er, a little petit?
Round the waist, I mean.
Yes, he would need to put on a good deal of muscle to be realistic in the role.
Yep, really get with the Charles Atlas springy thing. Or just get him to do a remake of the Frank Launder film Wee Geordie. All the muscle needed to do a Boris!
Charles Atlas?
Would need less korma and more Tim Curry.
CA is this chap here. Obvs the guru for your hero Boris. Solid muscle, all the way round the 44" waist.
Hard to see Wallace not moving to No 10 now, if he wins the MPs vote he may even be elected Tory leader and become PM before the membership vote. For as Yougov shows he is comfortably ahead with the membership anyway.
The 1922 cttee will announce the leadership timetable next week
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
He's even more nailed on to lose his seat than Boris Johnson.
But at least Baker would know whether something was oven ready.
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
He's even more nailed on to lose his seat than Boris Johnson.
But at least Baker would know whether something was oven ready.
First day without caffeine almost over, definitely got a headache but as @TOPPING predicted, I feel really good otherwise. No heartburn or indigestion at all which I'd normally be having to deal with around this time of the evening.
Spent the day off work obviously and I've also got tomorrow and Monday off sick just to recover properly.
My wife broke into tears a couple of times today because my mortality seems to have suddenly become very visible but she seems fine after reading about the condition and my drive to eliminate caffeine and reduce my sugar intake.
Overall still a very sobering experience and I feel very fragile. My cousin (a doctor) pointed out that if I had known about this condition beforehand I'd have probably not been offered the Moderna vaccine and got AZ or Pfizer instead just as there's a known risk factor around heart tissue weakening with Moderna to a degree that isn't the case with AZ and Pfizer. He's recommended me a specialist to essentially see if there's any damage and how to remedy it.
Have to say that having a daughter has made my response to this completely different to what I'd imagine would be the case if I didn't have one. I never thought that would be the case.
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
Steve Baker would also be the second evangelical Christian party leader after Tim Farron and our first openly Christian evangelical PM
Two days now of EUR/GBP weakening quite badly. The news that the UK will have a new government plus noises from big players in the BoE around higher rates seems to have helped sterling decouple from the Euro as it approaches parity with USD.
There's still a near terms future where sterling recovers to something like $1.25-1.27 which takes the edge off commodity price inflation leaving us with some domestic inflation to handle.
Have to say this Eurozone crisis may end up being worse than the last one, simply because the monetary road has run out. We may need for real German and Dutch taxpayer money to be spent buying Italian and Greek debt. I have no idea how realistic that is, I'd guess at low.
'Brexit pound powers ahead against beleaguered euro....?' my dear fellow, that will never happen.
First day without caffeine almost over, definitely got a headache but as @TOPPING predicted, I feel really good otherwise. No heartburn or indigestion at all which I'd normally be having to deal with around this time of the evening.
Spent the day off work obviously and I've also got tomorrow and Monday off sick just to recover properly.
My wife broke into tears a couple of times today because my mortality seems to have suddenly become very visible but she seems fine after reading about the condition and my drive to eliminate caffeine and reduce my sugar intake.
Overall still a very sobering experience and I feel very fragile. My cousin (a doctor) pointed out that if I had known about this condition beforehand I'd have probably not been offered the Moderna vaccine and got AZ or Pfizer instead just as there's a known risk factor around heart tissue weakening with Moderna to a degree that isn't the case with AZ and Pfizer. He's recommended me a specialist to essentially see if there's any damage and how to remedy it.
Have to say that having a daughter has made my response to this completely different to what I'd imagine would be the case if I didn't have one. I never thought that would be the case.
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
Steve Baker would also be the second evangelical Christian party leader after Tim Farron and our first openly Christian evangelical PM
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
Steve Baker would also be the second evangelical Christian party leader after Tim Farron and our first openly Christian evangelical PM
The last thing we need is religious BS being imported from the US to our politics.
I couldn't care less if Baker is an evangelical, a Methodist, an atheist, a Mormon, a Jew or a Scientologist so long as he keeps his religion to himself and doesn't try and shove it upon everyone else via Parliament.
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
Steve Baker would also be the second evangelical Christian party leader after Tim Farron and our first openly Christian evangelical PM
It doesn't sound as if he'd duck the looming culture wars.
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I think 3 months as defence secretary was as high as she went.
Of all the candidates, the one where you can see them winning and then something going badly wrong within 12 months because of inexperience would be Penny Mordaunt.
If I were the Conservatives I'd forget hair and gender and new and exciting and and and..
Just focus on doing a bloody good job, and pick an experienced candidate.
Wallace. Javid. Saj. Hunt. Maybe Tugendhat if they want to roll the dice on someone sensible.
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
Steve Baker would also be the second evangelical Christian party leader after Tim Farron and our first openly Christian evangelical PM
If he wants to do religion he can take it to church, but evangelical types seem to have a need to force the rest of us to live by their beliefs. To govern, we need people who can cope with the modern world and not someone who thinks the Universe and the planet run on the basis of a 2,000 year old set of multiply translated fictions.
I'm not going to engage much in debating this leadership pageant on here. It interests me very little. The Conservatives have dug themselves into this hole and they have to sort it out.
As a left-of-centre voter I'm glad to have seen Johnson felled and I don't fear any of the other candidates (apart from Penny). I suspect that after a honeymoon they will do far worse in the polls than Boris Johnson.
For all his many, many, faults Boris did appeal to red wall voters. They will now be lost again to the party.
I have generally voted Tory in GEs (not local elections) for several decades. At this moment nothing on earth would get me to do so (apart from Laura Pidcock), so I am interested in which of the possibles would possibly persuade me back. From current polling I presume there could be a few million voters who are similar in this respect. The next election will turn on their outlook.
Of some of the possibles I currently think this about supporting the party if they were PM:
Hunt and Tugendhat: Yes Mordaunt: Would incline to yes
Wallace: Curiously vague. No idea where he stands except on Ukraine, which doesn't help or hinder. Would look carefully. less tainted by government as Ukraine gives him an excuse.
The other front runners: Between impossible (most) and unlikely. Either useless or too tainted by being in government.
I think 3 months as defence secretary was as high as she went.
Of all the candidates, the one where you can see them winning and then something going badly wrong within 12 months because of inexperience would be Penny Mordaunt.
If I were the Conservatives I'd forget hair and gender and new and exciting and and and..
Just focus on doing a bloody good job, and pick an experienced candidate.
Wallace. Javid. Saj. Hunt. Maybe Tugendhat if they want to roll the dice on someone sensible.
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
Steve Baker would also be the second evangelical Christian party leader after Tim Farron and our first openly Christian evangelical PM
W, E. Gladstone says 'Hallelujah!'.
Gladstone wasn’t a proper Tory so doesn’t exist. He was Peelite and Liberal as well. Almost as unforgivable as voting for Plaid once.
It's not quite Montenegro, but after a long walk and having chased a few hares*, there is a field of bullocks between the stile and the pub...
Lovely weather for a staycation though.
*The dog, not me.
Montenegro looks lovely. But that photo is lovelier, and makes my soul sing. A neutral observer may prefer Montenegro, but I am not a neutral observer, I am a human with a home, and that photo sings of home. Where is it?
Hard to see Wallace not moving to No 10 now, if he wins the MPs vote he may even be elected Tory leader and become PM before the membership vote. For as Yougov shows he is comfortably ahead with the membership anyway.
The 1922 cttee will announce the leadership timetable next week
Do you think he actually wants to do it though?
He strikes me as a man that would much prefer a quiet life?
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
Steve Baker would also be the second evangelical Christian party leader after Tim Farron and our first openly Christian evangelical PM
The last thing we need is religious BS being imported from the US to our politics.
I couldn't care less if Baker is an evangelical, a Methodist, an atheist, a Mormon, a Jew or a Scientologist so long as he keeps his religion to himself and doesn't try and shove it upon everyone else via Parliament.
But they do not. Just look at the US and imagine that sort of cr*p trying to happen over here.
It's not quite Montenegro, but after a long walk and having chased a few hares*, there is a field of bullocks between the stile and the pub...
Lovely weather for a staycation though.
*The dog, not me.
Montenegro looks lovely. But that photo is lovelier, and makes my soul sing. A neutral observer may prefer Montenegro, but I am not a neutral observer, I am a human with a home, and that photo sings of home. Where is it?
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
Steve Baker would also be the second evangelical Christian party leader after Tim Farron and our first openly Christian evangelical PM
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
Steve Baker would also be the second evangelical Christian party leader after Tim Farron and our first openly Christian evangelical PM
W, E. Gladstone says 'Hallelujah!'.
Also Spencer Percival. Study of history is fascinating. Esp. IF you bother to actually study it.
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
Steve Baker would also be the second evangelical Christian party leader after Tim Farron and our first openly Christian evangelical PM
W, E. Gladstone says 'Hallelujah!'.
Gladstone wasn’t a proper Tory so doesn’t exist. He was Peelite and Liberal as well. Almost as unforgivable as voting for Plaid once.
Yebbut HYUFD is talking about Farron. Maybe Farron is one of those Tibetan Buddhist thought form thingies that one of us was mentioning just now.
Even though it was clear that Johnson had to go, there is no obvious replacement leader. They need someone to reinvent the party, not just hold it together until the next general election.
Johnson achieved a unique feat in 2019. Maybe the peverse legacy of Johnson will be that he detoxified the Conservative party in large parts of the north of England.
First day without caffeine almost over, definitely got a headache but as @TOPPING predicted, I feel really good otherwise. No heartburn or indigestion at all which I'd normally be having to deal with around this time of the evening.
Spent the day off work obviously and I've also got tomorrow and Monday off sick just to recover properly.
My wife broke into tears a couple of times today because my mortality seems to have suddenly become very visible but she seems fine after reading about the condition and my drive to eliminate caffeine and reduce my sugar intake.
Overall still a very sobering experience and I feel very fragile. My cousin (a doctor) pointed out that if I had known about this condition beforehand I'd have probably not been offered the Moderna vaccine and got AZ or Pfizer instead just as there's a known risk factor around heart tissue weakening with Moderna to a degree that isn't the case with AZ and Pfizer. He's recommended me a specialist to essentially see if there's any damage and how to remedy it.
Have to say that having a daughter has made my response to this completely different to what I'd imagine would be the case if I didn't have one. I never thought that would be the case.
Oh have you been unwell? I'd missed that. Pleased to hear you're feeling better now anyway.
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
Steve Baker would also be the second evangelical Christian party leader after Tim Farron and our first openly Christian evangelical PM
If he wants to do religion he can take it to church, but evangelical types seem to have a need to force the rest of us to live by their beliefs. To govern, we need people who can cope with the modern world and not someone who thinks the Universe and the planet run on the basis of a 2,000 year old set of multiply translated fictions.
I don't think Tim Farron did, to be fair to him. The media found his religion so peculiar it focused on it relentlessly, but he didn't really want to talk about it - seemed very keen to separate the sacred and the profane.
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
Steve Baker would also be the second evangelical Christian party leader after Tim Farron and our first openly Christian evangelical PM
W, E. Gladstone says 'Hallelujah!'.
Gladstone was brought up evangelical by his mother but had become high church Anglican by the time he was PM.
Steve Baker is a member of an evangelical, Bible based Baptist Church having formerly been a member of an evangelical Pentecostal church
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
Steve Baker would also be the second evangelical Christian party leader after Tim Farron and our first openly Christian evangelical PM
The last thing we need is religious BS being imported from the US to our politics.
I couldn't care less if Baker is an evangelical, a Methodist, an atheist, a Mormon, a Jew or a Scientologist so long as he keeps his religion to himself and doesn't try and shove it upon everyone else via Parliament.
But they do not. Just look at the US and imagine that sort of cr*p trying to happen over here.
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
Steve Baker would also be the second evangelical Christian party leader after Tim Farron and our first openly Christian evangelical PM
The last thing we need is religious BS being imported from the US to our politics.
I couldn't care less if Baker is an evangelical, a Methodist, an atheist, a Mormon, a Jew or a Scientologist so long as he keeps his religion to himself and doesn't try and shove it upon everyone else via Parliament.
But they do not. Just look at the US and imagine that sort of cr*p trying to happen over here.
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
Steve Baker would also be the second evangelical Christian party leader after Tim Farron and our first openly Christian evangelical PM
The last thing we need is religious BS being imported from the US to our politics.
I couldn't care less if Baker is an evangelical, a Methodist, an atheist, a Mormon, a Jew or a Scientologist so long as he keeps his religion to himself and doesn't try and shove it upon everyone else via Parliament.
But they do not. Just look at the US and imagine that sort of cr*p trying to happen over here.
And he would be discredited as quickly as Farron was, with a few pointed questions about the modern world
It's not quite Montenegro, but after a long walk and having chased a few hares*, there is a field of bullocks between the stile and the pub...
Lovely weather for a staycation though.
*The dog, not me.
Montenegro looks lovely. But that photo is lovelier, and makes my soul sing. A neutral observer may prefer Montenegro, but I am not a neutral observer, I am a human with a home, and that photo sings of home. Where is it?
It captures an archetypal atmosphere of summer late afternoon and a suggestion of developing narrative with the fox-dog and the cattle.
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
Steve Baker would also be the second evangelical Christian party leader after Tim Farron and our first openly Christian evangelical PM
W, E. Gladstone says 'Hallelujah!'.
Also Spencer Percival. Study of history is fascinating. Esp. IF you bother to actually study it.
Oh, indeed. Ramsay Mac was a Presbyterian, C of S originally, so potentially very Evangelical, but it depends which C of S he was in, plus the timijng of the various mergers and splits is critical, also because he turned to Unitarianism. I was not sure how the timing fitted in with being PM. So I didn't adduce him.
Ben Wallace would appear to be perhaps the best choice (out of a poor selection) for caretaker Prime Minister.
Especially IF he were to disavow any intention to run for the leadership (this time) AND remain serving as Minister of Defense, as Big Dog's (alleged) role model, Winston Churchill.
Given numbers posted at top of this thread, reckon that he could be put in and Boris tipped out, with amazing speed . . . even for Tory MP slugs . . .
Question NOW is NOT the ideology or personality or electablity of next PM. It is getting BJ-Exit DONE. ASAP.
That may be your priority, but it certainly isn't the priority of anyone living in the UK - surprisingly we actually give a shit who we get as next PM.
Purpose of caretaker - who will serve until Tory leadership is decided - is to hold down the fort and mind the store.
Right now, focus is removing Boris from the seat of power - pronto.
Unless you wish the perfect to be the enemy of the good . . . and risk Boris turning something up . . .
It's not quite Montenegro, but after a long walk and having chased a few hares*, there is a field of bullocks between the stile and the pub...
Lovely weather for a staycation though.
*The dog, not me.
Montenegro looks lovely. But that photo is lovelier, and makes my soul sing. A neutral observer may prefer Montenegro, but I am not a neutral observer, I am a human with a home, and that photo sings of home. Where is it?
7 miles from Leicester City centre, but not seen anyone else in an hour. I often walk my dog here on a summer evening. Leicester is big enough to have lots going on, but small enough to get out of.
Hard to see Wallace not moving to No 10 now, if he wins the MPs vote he may even be elected Tory leader and become PM before the membership vote. For as Yougov shows he is comfortably ahead with the membership anyway.
The 1922 cttee will announce the leadership timetable next week
Do you think he actually wants to do it though?
He strikes me as a man that would much prefer a quiet life?
I think most probably he would be the Douglas Home of our times, do a short stint as PM out of duty, get closer than expected in the subsequent general election even if still losing it
It's a dark time. No, not with politics, but a new Windows era - the 'do you want Windows 11' prompts have been getting increasingly pushy and annoying, as with Windows 10.
It's not quite Montenegro, but after a long walk and having chased a few hares*, there is a field of bullocks between the stile and the pub...
Lovely weather for a staycation though.
*The dog, not me.
Montenegro looks lovely. But that photo is lovelier, and makes my soul sing. A neutral observer may prefer Montenegro, but I am not a neutral observer, I am a human with a home, and that photo sings of home. Where is it?
7 miles from Leicester City centre, but not seen anyone else in an hour. I often walk my dog here on a summer evening. Leicester is big enough to have lots going on, but small enough to get out of.
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
Steve Baker would also be the second evangelical Christian party leader after Tim Farron and our first openly Christian evangelical PM
If he wants to do religion he can take it to church, but evangelical types seem to have a need to force the rest of us to live by their beliefs. To govern, we need people who can cope with the modern world and not someone who thinks the Universe and the planet run on the basis of a 2,000 year old set of multiply translated fictions.
I don't think Tim Farron did, to be fair to him. The media found his religion so peculiar it focused on it relentlessly, but he didn't really want to talk about it - seemed very keen to separate the sacred and the profane.
Yes, I think Farron was hard done by by the media. The essence of Liberalism is not forcing your views on others, so he was very different to the American religious right.
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
Steve Baker would also be the second evangelical Christian party leader after Tim Farron and our first openly Christian evangelical PM
If he wants to do religion he can take it to church, but evangelical types seem to have a need to force the rest of us to live by their beliefs. To govern, we need people who can cope with the modern world and not someone who thinks the Universe and the planet run on the basis of a 2,000 year old set of multiply translated fictions.
I'm afraid this is broadly right. Tim Farron was and is tremendously likeable - witty, empathetic, charming.
But he arrived kicking and screaming at gay marriage after extensive prayer and doubtless long nights of the soul over biblical compatibility. It's tragic, because he's instinctively warm and inclusive. But it's allowing superstition to cause a real problem politically, just as much as Nancy Reagan dicking about with horoscopes.
It's distinctively evangelical (not just in the Christian sense). They have huge problems compartmentalising it in a way that works.
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
Steve Baker would also be the second evangelical Christian party leader after Tim Farron and our first openly Christian evangelical PM
If he wants to do religion he can take it to church, but evangelical types seem to have a need to force the rest of us to live by their beliefs. To govern, we need people who can cope with the modern world and not someone who thinks the Universe and the planet run on the basis of a 2,000 year old set of multiply translated fictions.
I don't think Tim Farron did, to be fair to him. The media found his religion so peculiar it focused on it relentlessly, but he didn't really want to talk about it - seemed very keen to separate the sacred and the profane.
To be fair to evangelicals - who are mostly really nice and decent people - those in politics tend to get hammered, like Farron, for having views which are unfashionable but fairly widely shared, while Roman Catholics and the Islamic community also have all sorts of minority views but tend to be miraculously protected from scrutiny.
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
Baker has some opinions which might surprise people who only think about him as 'Brexit hard man Steve Baker'. I cannot say I am a particular fan, but I do believe he is a principled Brexiteer - he has not stopped being a memebr of the awkward squad even with Brexit Boris winning, which shows that principle.
It might make him find leadership difficult though.
Ben Wallace would appear to be perhaps the best choice (out of a poor selection) for caretaker Prime Minister.
Especially IF he were to disavow any intention to run for the leadership (this time) AND remain serving as Minister of Defense, as Big Dog's (alleged) role model, Winston Churchill.
Given numbers posted at top of this thread, reckon that he could be put in and Boris tipped out, with amazing speed . . . even for Tory MP slugs . . .
Question NOW is NOT the ideology or personality or electablity of next PM. It is getting BJ-Exit DONE. ASAP.
That may be your priority, but it certainly isn't the priority of anyone living in the UK - surprisingly we actually give a shit who we get as next PM.
Purpose of caretaker - who will serve until Tory leadership is decided - is to hold down the fort and mind the store.
Right now, focus is removing Boris from the seat of power - pronto.
Unless you wish the perfect to be the enemy of the good . . . and risk Boris turning something up . . .
Nobody really believes this “Boris can’t be trusted to leave after the vote” nonsense. A few were worked up about it earlier but the idea will be dead by tomorrow night. The system has worked and is working. Again.
Not getting a positive response on Twitter....too Remain for the party
The tories are insane if they choose this guy.
I might have missed it but did you answer yet why you want us to use more expensive gas instead of cheaper renewable energy?
I assume you saw my, RCS and others replies to you that the "surcharge" on energy bills is more due to legacy contracts that have to be honoured and can't be avoided than due to tariffs being agreed today - new investments don't get the old feed in tariffs as they're more than competitive at market rate.
Even if Net Zero were abolished overnight, we'd still need to honour feed in tariff etc contracts made in the past that haven't been any more made of in many years now - unless you advocate breaking contracts?
It's a dark time. No, not with politics, but a new Windows era - the 'do you want Windows 11' prompts have been getting increasingly pushy and annoying, as with Windows 10.
I clicked yes, and my printer hasn't worked properly since. Resist!
Ben Wallace would appear to be perhaps the best choice (out of a poor selection) for caretaker Prime Minister.
Especially IF he were to disavow any intention to run for the leadership (this time) AND remain serving as Minister of Defense, as Big Dog's (alleged) role model, Winston Churchill.
Given numbers posted at top of this thread, reckon that he could be put in and Boris tipped out, with amazing speed . . . even for Tory MP slugs . . .
Question NOW is NOT the ideology or personality or electablity of next PM. It is getting BJ-Exit DONE. ASAP.
That may be your priority, but it certainly isn't the priority of anyone living in the UK - surprisingly we actually give a shit who we get as next PM.
Purpose of caretaker - who will serve until Tory leadership is decided - is to hold down the fort and mind the store.
Right now, focus is removing Boris from the seat of power - pronto.
Unless you wish the perfect to be the enemy of the good . . . and risk Boris turning something up . . .
Boris is done, stick a fork in him, he has no power. If anything, he is the caretaker.
Ben Wallace would appear to be perhaps the best choice (out of a poor selection) for caretaker Prime Minister.
Especially IF he were to disavow any intention to run for the leadership (this time) AND remain serving as Minister of Defense, as Big Dog's (alleged) role model, Winston Churchill.
Given numbers posted at top of this thread, reckon that he could be put in and Boris tipped out, with amazing speed . . . even for Tory MP slugs . . .
Question NOW is NOT the ideology or personality or electablity of next PM. It is getting BJ-Exit DONE. ASAP.
That may be your priority, but it certainly isn't the priority of anyone living in the UK - surprisingly we actually give a shit who we get as next PM.
Purpose of caretaker - who will serve until Tory leadership is decided - is to hold down the fort and mind the store.
Right now, focus is removing Boris from the seat of power - pronto.
Unless you wish the perfect to be the enemy of the good . . . and risk Boris turning something up . . .
Boris is gone.
You've been batshit crazy in saying that Boris is Trump/Putin all along when he's nothing of the sort, and the UK isn't Russia/USA either.
The system worked, the unwritten constitution did its job, and he's gone and he's accepted he's gone - something Trump never did and still hasn't done.
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
Steve Baker would also be the second evangelical Christian party leader after Tim Farron and our first openly Christian evangelical PM
If he wants to do religion he can take it to church, but evangelical types seem to have a need to force the rest of us to live by their beliefs. To govern, we need people who can cope with the modern world and not someone who thinks the Universe and the planet run on the basis of a 2,000 year old set of multiply translated fictions.
I don't think Tim Farron did, to be fair to him. The media found his religion so peculiar it focused on it relentlessly, but he didn't really want to talk about it - seemed very keen to separate the sacred and the profane.
Perhaps, though he did not handle it well, and gave answers he later admitted were not really true to his beliefs. I remember being yelled at for being a horrible Tory by I believe the late Mark Senior about it.
Ben Wallace would appear to be perhaps the best choice (out of a poor selection) for caretaker Prime Minister.
Especially IF he were to disavow any intention to run for the leadership (this time) AND remain serving as Minister of Defense, as Big Dog's (alleged) role model, Winston Churchill.
Given numbers posted at top of this thread, reckon that he could be put in and Boris tipped out, with amazing speed . . . even for Tory MP slugs . . .
Question NOW is NOT the ideology or personality or electablity of next PM. It is getting BJ-Exit DONE. ASAP.
That may be your priority, but it certainly isn't the priority of anyone living in the UK - surprisingly we actually give a shit who we get as next PM.
Purpose of caretaker - who will serve until Tory leadership is decided - is to hold down the fort and mind the store.
Right now, focus is removing Boris from the seat of power - pronto.
Unless you wish the perfect to be the enemy of the good . . . and risk Boris turning something up . . .
Boris is gone.
You've been batshit crazy in saying that Boris is Trump/Putin all along when he's nothing of the sort, and the UK isn't Russia/USA either.
The system worked, the unwritten constitution did its job, and he's gone and he's accepted he's gone - something Trump never did and still hasn't done.
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
Steve Baker would also be the second evangelical Christian party leader after Tim Farron and our first openly Christian evangelical PM
The last thing we need is religious BS being imported from the US to our politics.
I couldn't care less if Baker is an evangelical, a Methodist, an atheist, a Mormon, a Jew or a Scientologist so long as he keeps his religion to himself and doesn't try and shove it upon everyone else via Parliament.
But they do not. Just look at the US and imagine that sort of cr*p trying to happen over here.
Not really possible.
This is Reagan’s education secretary on Fox recently…
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
Steve Baker would also be the second evangelical Christian party leader after Tim Farron and our first openly Christian evangelical PM
If he wants to do religion he can take it to church, but evangelical types seem to have a need to force the rest of us to live by their beliefs. To govern, we need people who can cope with the modern world and not someone who thinks the Universe and the planet run on the basis of a 2,000 year old set of multiply translated fictions.
I don't think Tim Farron did, to be fair to him. The media found his religion so peculiar it focused on it relentlessly, but he didn't really want to talk about it - seemed very keen to separate the sacred and the profane.
Yes, I think Farron was hard done by by the media. The essence of Liberalism is not forcing your views on others, so he was very different to the American religious right.
The media find it very hard to see what a liberal society is. It isn't one where everyone has the same 'liberal' view. It's one where you are free to have different views while giving the same freedom to others by not banning things.
Farron is, SFAICS, a proper liberal. Quite a lot of Christians are.
Ben Wallace would appear to be perhaps the best choice (out of a poor selection) for caretaker Prime Minister.
Especially IF he were to disavow any intention to run for the leadership (this time) AND remain serving as Minister of Defense, as Big Dog's (alleged) role model, Winston Churchill.
Given numbers posted at top of this thread, reckon that he could be put in and Boris tipped out, with amazing speed . . . even for Tory MP slugs . . .
Question NOW is NOT the ideology or personality or electablity of next PM. It is getting BJ-Exit DONE. ASAP.
That may be your priority, but it certainly isn't the priority of anyone living in the UK - surprisingly we actually give a shit who we get as next PM.
Purpose of caretaker - who will serve until Tory leadership is decided - is to hold down the fort and mind the store.
Right now, focus is removing Boris from the seat of power - pronto.
Unless you wish the perfect to be the enemy of the good . . . and risk Boris turning something up . . .
Nobody really believes this “Boris can’t be trusted to leave after the vote” nonsense. A few were worked up about it earlier but the idea will be dead by tomorrow night. The system has worked and is working. Again.
IIRC, heard similar just after the votes were counted in November 2020.
And thanks for calling me a "nobody"! One of the nicest things said about me on PB recently.
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
Steve Baker would also be the second evangelical Christian party leader after Tim Farron and our first openly Christian evangelical PM
If he wants to do religion he can take it to church, but evangelical types seem to have a need to force the rest of us to live by their beliefs. To govern, we need people who can cope with the modern world and not someone who thinks the Universe and the planet run on the basis of a 2,000 year old set of multiply translated fictions.
I don't think Tim Farron did, to be fair to him. The media found his religion so peculiar it focused on it relentlessly, but he didn't really want to talk about it - seemed very keen to separate the sacred and the profane.
No, Tim Farron found himself on the wrong end of the "belief spectrum" and voted against the Equality Act, tried to timetable the Same Sex Marriage Act so that it would fail and alienated a lot of the LDs. Years later, in a Guardian interview, he claimed that he only went along with the LDs position on LGBT issues but wished he had not done so
Oh fucking brilliant we all get to hear about how much each cundidate is a loving father/mother/wife/husband. Next up they'll all be snapped going for a jog or chatting jovially with local business owners. Fuck this.
I applaud the sentiment, but parties have to select leaders somehow.
Yes, I personally have a hankerin' for policy. But we'll have an awful lot of ice-creams and doggos.
At least one of them might get bitten or infected with scabies. That'll be good.
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
Baker has some opinions which might surprise people who only think about him as 'Brexit hard man Steve Baker'. I cannot say I am a particular fan, but I do believe he is a principled Brexiteer - he has not stopped being a memebr of the awkward squad even with Brexit Boris winning, which shows that principle.
It might make him find leadership difficult though.
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
Steve Baker would also be the second evangelical Christian party leader after Tim Farron and our first openly Christian evangelical PM
W, E. Gladstone says 'Hallelujah!'.
Also Spencer Percival. Study of history is fascinating. Esp. IF you bother to actually study it.
Even Spencer Percival is debatable, he was firmly Church of England and did not believe any bible based gathering of believers constituted a church as evangelicals outside the Church of England would
Hard to see Wallace not moving to No 10 now, if he wins the MPs vote he may even be elected Tory leader and become PM before the membership vote. For as Yougov shows he is comfortably ahead with the membership anyway.
The 1922 cttee will announce the leadership timetable next week
Surely you can’t be a loyalist to absolutely anybody. Is there anyones ring you would struggle to kiss?
The Benny Hill theme tune has been blasted outside Parliament live on TV ahead of Boris Johnson's resignation – and it turns out Hugh Grant was behind it"
What price Hugh Grant playing Boris in a biopic (and in a wig)?
Isn't he, er, a little petit?
Round the waist, I mean.
Yes, he would need to put on a good deal of muscle to be realistic in the role.
Yep, really get with the Charles Atlas springy thing. Or just get him to do a remake of the Frank Launder film Wee Geordie. All the muscle needed to do a Boris!
Charles Atlas?
Would need less korma and more Tim Curry.
CA is this chap here. Obvs the guru for your hero Boris. Solid muscle, all the way round the 44" waist.
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
Steve Baker would also be the second evangelical Christian party leader after Tim Farron and our first openly Christian evangelical PM
W, E. Gladstone says 'Hallelujah!'.
Also Spencer Percival. Study of history is fascinating. Esp. IF you bother to actually study it.
Oh, indeed. Ramsay Mac was a Presbyterian, C of S originally, so potentially very Evangelical, but it depends which C of S he was in, plus the timijng of the various mergers and splits is critical, also because he turned to Unitarianism. I was not sure how the timing fitted in with being PM. So I didn't adduce him.
Lloyd George was a Baptist.
Well, insofar as he worshipped anything other than Lloyd George.
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
Steve Baker would also be the second evangelical Christian party leader after Tim Farron and our first openly Christian evangelical PM
If he wants to do religion he can take it to church, but evangelical types seem to have a need to force the rest of us to live by their beliefs. To govern, we need people who can cope with the modern world and not someone who thinks the Universe and the planet run on the basis of a 2,000 year old set of multiply translated fictions.
I don't think Tim Farron did, to be fair to him. The media found his religion so peculiar it focused on it relentlessly, but he didn't really want to talk about it - seemed very keen to separate the sacred and the profane.
No, Tim Farron found himself on the wrong end of the "belief spectrum" and voted against the Equality Act, tried to timetable the Same Sex Marriage Act so that it would fail and alienated a lot of the LDs. Years later, in a Guardian interview, he claimed that he only went along with the LDs position on LGBT issues but wished he had not done so
"My personal preference would have been... that Boris would have gone entirely and we installed Dominic Raab as an interim prime minister, with the interim cabinet, until we had a new leader," Mr Gullis explained.
From head banging loyalist to head banging enemy? I don’t understand how 🤷♀️
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
Steve Baker would also be the second evangelical Christian party leader after Tim Farron and our first openly Christian evangelical PM
If he wants to do religion he can take it to church, but evangelical types seem to have a need to force the rest of us to live by their beliefs. To govern, we need people who can cope with the modern world and not someone who thinks the Universe and the planet run on the basis of a 2,000 year old set of multiply translated fictions.
I don't think Tim Farron did, to be fair to him. The media found his religion so peculiar it focused on it relentlessly, but he didn't really want to talk about it - seemed very keen to separate the sacred and the profane.
No, Tim Farron found himself on the wrong end of the "belief spectrum" and voted against the Equality Act, tried to timetable the Same Sex Marriage Act so that it would fail and alienated a lot of the LDs. Years later, in a Guardian interview, he claimed that he only went along with the LDs position on LGBT issues but wished he had not done so
Oh dear. Not very liberal, was it, trying to fiddle things so that others' beliefs were banned/suppressed?
First day without caffeine almost over, definitely got a headache but as @TOPPING predicted, I feel really good otherwise. No heartburn or indigestion at all which I'd normally be having to deal with around this time of the evening.
Spent the day off work obviously and I've also got tomorrow and Monday off sick just to recover properly.
My wife broke into tears a couple of times today because my mortality seems to have suddenly become very visible but she seems fine after reading about the condition and my drive to eliminate caffeine and reduce my sugar intake.
Overall still a very sobering experience and I feel very fragile. My cousin (a doctor) pointed out that if I had known about this condition beforehand I'd have probably not been offered the Moderna vaccine and got AZ or Pfizer instead just as there's a known risk factor around heart tissue weakening with Moderna to a degree that isn't the case with AZ and Pfizer. He's recommended me a specialist to essentially see if there's any damage and how to remedy it.
Have to say that having a daughter has made my response to this completely different to what I'd imagine would be the case if I didn't have one. I never thought that would be the case.
You're better off without coffee. I stopped drinking it a decade ago and life is much better without it. Can you still drink tea? The methodone of the caffeine world. Hope you continue to feel well.
It's a dark time. No, not with politics, but a new Windows era - the 'do you want Windows 11' prompts have been getting increasingly pushy and annoying, as with Windows 10.
I clicked yes, and my printer hasn't worked properly since. Resist!
I clicked yes and I hated it. Mainly because it would take 6 steps to sort out my WiFi if the connection dropped out instead of right clicking on the WiFi symbol and selecting "Troubleshoot problems" when it happens which fixes it every time on Windows 10. It seems that half the options on things have been hidden away, presumably to be more "user friendly" not to offer so many options, but I know what I'm doing and I want those options conveniently available to me. 👎
Back on 10 now, and I have no intention of "upgrading" until I hear decent things about it. Which I expect to be about when hell freezes over, or when Windows 12 is released.
Ben Wallace would appear to be perhaps the best choice (out of a poor selection) for caretaker Prime Minister.
Especially IF he were to disavow any intention to run for the leadership (this time) AND remain serving as Minister of Defense, as Big Dog's (alleged) role model, Winston Churchill.
Given numbers posted at top of this thread, reckon that he could be put in and Boris tipped out, with amazing speed . . . even for Tory MP slugs . . .
Question NOW is NOT the ideology or personality or electablity of next PM. It is getting BJ-Exit DONE. ASAP.
That may be your priority, but it certainly isn't the priority of anyone living in the UK - surprisingly we actually give a shit who we get as next PM.
Purpose of caretaker - who will serve until Tory leadership is decided - is to hold down the fort and mind the store.
Right now, focus is removing Boris from the seat of power - pronto.
Unless you wish the perfect to be the enemy of the good . . . and risk Boris turning something up . . .
Boris is done, stick a fork in him, he has no power. If anything, he is the caretaker.
Ben Wallace would appear to be perhaps the best choice (out of a poor selection) for caretaker Prime Minister.
Especially IF he were to disavow any intention to run for the leadership (this time) AND remain serving as Minister of Defense, as Big Dog's (alleged) role model, Winston Churchill.
Given numbers posted at top of this thread, reckon that he could be put in and Boris tipped out, with amazing speed . . . even for Tory MP slugs . . .
Question NOW is NOT the ideology or personality or electablity of next PM. It is getting BJ-Exit DONE. ASAP.
That may be your priority, but it certainly isn't the priority of anyone living in the UK - surprisingly we actually give a shit who we get as next PM.
Purpose of caretaker - who will serve until Tory leadership is decided - is to hold down the fort and mind the store.
Right now, focus is removing Boris from the seat of power - pronto.
Unless you wish the perfect to be the enemy of the good . . . and risk Boris turning something up . . .
Boris is gone.
You've been batshit crazy in saying that Boris is Trump/Putin all along when he's nothing of the sort, and the UK isn't Russia/USA either.
The system worked, the unwritten constitution did its job, and he's gone and he's accepted he's gone - something Trump never did and still hasn't done.
Boris is officially a caretaker PM now.
The only official caretaker PMs in the last 200 years were Wellington in 1834 and Churchill in 1945.
Johnson is caretaker leader of the party. He is still the PM.
But I agree. He won't try to hang on once a new leader is around.
Hard to see Wallace not moving to No 10 now, if he wins the MPs vote he may even be elected Tory leader and become PM before the membership vote. For as Yougov shows he is comfortably ahead with the membership anyway.
The 1922 cttee will announce the leadership timetable next week
Surely you can’t be a loyalist to absolutely anybody. Is there anyones ring you would struggle to kiss?
If the Tories want a principled leader who understands politics and is not tarnished by association with the Borisian shambles they need look no further than Steve Baker. There, I've said it.
Steve Baker would also be the second evangelical Christian party leader after Tim Farron and our first openly Christian evangelical PM
If he wants to do religion he can take it to church, but evangelical types seem to have a need to force the rest of us to live by their beliefs. To govern, we need people who can cope with the modern world and not someone who thinks the Universe and the planet run on the basis of a 2,000 year old set of multiply translated fictions.
I don't think Tim Farron did, to be fair to him. The media found his religion so peculiar it focused on it relentlessly, but he didn't really want to talk about it - seemed very keen to separate the sacred and the profane.
To be fair to evangelicals - who are mostly really nice and decent people - those in politics tend to get hammered, like Farron, for having views which are unfashionable but fairly widely shared, while Roman Catholics and the Islamic community also have all sorts of minority views but tend to be miraculously protected from scrutiny.
What? Not my impression that the Islamic community are protected from scrutiny - their beliefs are widely and IMo unfairly regarded with suspicion, and attacked every few days in mainstream media, because some lunatics claim to share them. Evangelicals are seen as a bit cranky, but few would go further than that. I don't really care what Baker's beliefs are, unless they affect his policies.
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With blond hair and a tan
Who'll be good for relieving my...........tension"
Lovely weather for a staycation though.
*The dog, not me.
Boris would have more chance of a "Charles Atlas" body by "making a man" Frank-N-Furter style than by exercise.
More loyal than Nick Palmer on Mogadon, about third most popular on the ConHome survey, a majority of 56% (merits a Ceefax style: FIFTY-SIX), chief sec to the Treasury, the minister in place when Brexit got done..
Who is he? Exactly.
On second thoughts, that would be all shits and no giggles.
More loyal than Nick Palmer on Mogadon, about third most popular on the ConHome survey, a majority of 56% (merits a Ceefax style: FIFTY-SIX), chief sec to the Treasury, the minister in place when Brexit got done..
Who is he? Exactly.
https://youtu.be/h3kkbZU-JtY
The 1922 cttee will announce the leadership timetable next week
If only there was a way for OGH to charge 10p a shot.
No he is a Portuguese Podengo, but he really does look like a fox.
Spent the day off work obviously and I've also got tomorrow and Monday off sick just to recover properly.
My wife broke into tears a couple of times today because my mortality seems to have suddenly become very visible but she seems fine after reading about the condition and my drive to eliminate caffeine and reduce my sugar intake.
Overall still a very sobering experience and I feel very fragile. My cousin (a doctor) pointed out that if I had known about this condition beforehand I'd have probably not been offered the Moderna vaccine and got AZ or Pfizer instead just as there's a known risk factor around heart tissue weakening with Moderna to a degree that isn't the case with AZ and Pfizer. He's recommended me a specialist to essentially see if there's any damage and how to remedy it.
Have to say that having a daughter has made my response to this completely different to what I'd imagine would be the case if I didn't have one. I never thought that would be the case.
I couldn't care less if Baker is an evangelical, a Methodist, an atheist, a Mormon, a Jew or a Scientologist so long as he keeps his religion to himself and doesn't try and shove it upon everyone else via Parliament.
Andrew Teale's usual review https://medium.com/britainelects/previewing-the-ten-council-by-elections-of-7th-july-2022-e0d6574eac4
Hollingwood and Inkersall, Chesterfield Council - Independent defence; G, I, L
Woughton and Fishermead, Milton Keynes Council - Labour defence; C, LD, L
Hatfield Central, Welwyn Hatfield Council - Labour defence; C, LD, L, Abolish the BBE Television Licence
Worthing West, West Sussex County Council - Labour defence; C, G, LD, L
Charlwood, Mole Valley Council - Conservative defence; C, G, LD, L
West Ewell, Epsom and Ewell Council - Residents defence; C, LD, L, Residents
De Beauvoir, Hackney Council - Labour defence; C, G, I, LD, L, Women's Equality
Hampstead Town, Camden Council - Labour defence; C, G, I, LD, L, National Housing Party
Bridge and Bridge Without, City of London - Independent defence; I, I
Walbrook, City of London - Independent defence; I, I, I, I, I
Of some of the possibles I currently think this about supporting the party if they were PM:
Hunt and Tugendhat: Yes
Mordaunt: Would incline to yes
Wallace: Curiously vague. No idea where he stands except on Ukraine, which doesn't help or hinder. Would look carefully. less tainted by government as Ukraine gives him an excuse.
The other front runners: Between impossible (most) and unlikely. Either useless or too tainted by being in government.
He strikes me as a man that would much prefer a quiet life?
Johnson achieved a unique feat in 2019. Maybe the peverse legacy of Johnson will be that he detoxified the Conservative party in large parts of the north of England.
Steve Baker is a member of an evangelical, Bible based Baptist Church having formerly been a member of an evangelical Pentecostal church
That is one US import we do not need.
#NewLeadershipNewDirection
Right now, focus is removing Boris from the seat of power - pronto.
Unless you wish the perfect to be the enemy of the good . . . and risk Boris turning something up . . .
But he arrived kicking and screaming at gay marriage after extensive prayer and doubtless long nights of the soul over biblical compatibility. It's tragic, because he's instinctively warm and inclusive. But it's allowing superstition to cause a real problem politically, just as much as Nancy Reagan dicking about with horoscopes.
It's distinctively evangelical (not just in the Christian sense). They have huge problems compartmentalising it in a way that works.
It might make him find leadership difficult though.
I assume you saw my, RCS and others replies to you that the "surcharge" on energy bills is more due to legacy contracts that have to be honoured and can't be avoided than due to tariffs being agreed today - new investments don't get the old feed in tariffs as they're more than competitive at market rate.
Even if Net Zero were abolished overnight, we'd still need to honour feed in tariff etc contracts made in the past that haven't been any more made of in many years now - unless you advocate breaking contracts?
You've been batshit crazy in saying that Boris is Trump/Putin all along when he's nothing of the sort, and the UK isn't Russia/USA either.
The system worked, the unwritten constitution did its job, and he's gone and he's accepted he's gone - something Trump never did and still hasn't done.
Boris is officially a caretaker PM now.
This is Reagan’s education secretary on Fox recently…
Bill Bennett just said we should consider using exorcists to stop mass shootings???????
https://twitter.com/abughazalehkat/status/1544818389289508867
Farron is, SFAICS, a proper liberal. Quite a lot of Christians are.
And thanks for calling me a "nobody"! One of the nicest things said about me on PB recently.
At least one of them might get bitten or infected with scabies. That'll be good.
Well, insofar as he worshipped anything other than Lloyd George.
"My personal preference would have been... that Boris would have gone entirely and we installed Dominic Raab as an interim prime minister, with the interim cabinet, until we had a new leader," Mr Gullis explained.
From head banging loyalist to head banging enemy? I don’t understand how 🤷♀️
Back on 10 now, and I have no intention of "upgrading" until I hear decent things about it. Which I expect to be about when hell freezes over, or when Windows 12 is released.
Fitting.
Johnson is caretaker leader of the party. He is still the PM.
But I agree. He won't try to hang on once a new leader is around.
The wound to his ego is too deep.
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