» show previous quotes One of my sons, when at Lancaster University, was knocked about in a pub for speaking with a south Essex accent!
You weaselly arsehole Dougseal insulting me again. Shitface it is you that is hated not anything to do with being English. You are a whining , snivelling , cretinous arsewipe of the first order. Go F**k yourself you ignorant pompous little shit for brains creep. @DougSeal
When I was planning this trip to Montenegro, I didn’t expect to find sweet historic capital cities in the mountains that are so prosperous they remind me of Switzerland
» show previous quotes One of my sons, when at Lancaster University, was knocked about in a pub for speaking with a south Essex accent!
You weaselly arsehole Dougseal insulting me again. Shitface it is you that is hated not anything to do with being English. You are a whining , snivelling , cretinous arsewipe of the first order. Go F**k yourself you ignorant pompous little shit for brains creep. @DougSeal
McCare in the community
Another snivelling arsehole
I only snivel this way for you malc. You're pretty special.
When I was planning this trip to Montenegro, I didn’t expect to find sweet historic capital cities in the mountains that are so prosperous they remind me of Switzerland
But so it is
Please tell me the prices are not Switzerland-like...
When I was planning this trip to Montenegro, I didn’t expect to find sweet historic capital cities in the mountains that are so prosperous they remind me of Switzerland
But so it is
Rick Steves loves Cetinje, he’s been there several times and written it up.
Funny, I never saw you as the guru-following type.
» show previous quotes One of my sons, when at Lancaster University, was knocked about in a pub for speaking with a south Essex accent!
You weaselly arsehole Dougseal insulting me again. Shitface it is you that is hated not anything to do with being English. You are a whining , snivelling , cretinous arsewipe of the first order. Go F**k yourself you ignorant pompous little shit for brains creep. @DougSeal
You’re right Malc. I am all of those things. I am irredeemable. I have been convinced that I am no longer fit for this world. Thanks Malc for making me see my true worth.
When I was planning this trip to Montenegro, I didn’t expect to find sweet historic capital cities in the mountains that are so prosperous they remind me of Switzerland
But so it is
Please tell me the prices are not Switzerland-like...
I'm Irish and I do not hate you. There are lots of English people on here and I do not hate any of them.
The Irish Times appears to think you might be an exception.
That is an opinion piece mainly about sport, not a peer-reviewed piece of social research. If you base your worries on "facts" like that it is no wonder that you think we are out to get you.
You are more likely to get anti-English sentiment in Belfast (part of the UK for now) in areas like Turf Lodge or the Falls Road
My mother is a loving grandmother to two Irish grandkids. Looks after them one days a week. Yet my Irish-American aunt in law accused her of being anti-Irish. That’s the sort of fact I rely upon, an instinctive, reflexive Anglophobia despite evidence to the contrary,.
But she is American. Many "Irish Americans" do not even know where Ireland is. Clinton claimed to be "Irish American" and he was the first in 7 generations to revisit The Oul Sod and set foot on it. I would say her attitudes are what she thinks are Irish but if she turned up anywhere in Ireland and started passing that attitude out, I do not think she would get very far...
She’s been there a number of times and consumes the Irish American press. Irish Americans are just “Irish”: as they put it themselves. She’s opened my eyes about relations between these islands.
There is nothing "Irish" about Irish-Americanism, it is just a wanna-be attitude and much of it is wrong.
Many "Irish-Americans" probably have less Irish blood than many English people
Very many Irish-Americans are actually descended from Scots-Irish. Protestants. The people that repressed the Catholics
They tend to overlook that
Well indeed. There is a certain poster on here who seems somewhat lacking in education (normally I would be sympathetic except that he is a complete twat) and he refers to Scotland being a colony when the historic reality is that Scotland was one of the most enthusiastic parts of the UK when it came to providing colonialists to repress not just the Irish but many other folk around the world. ( I now await the torrent of abuse from the inarticulate little a-hole)
Indeed colonialism is rather complex. My Scottish ancestors were cleared off their ancestral lands in the clearances, then went out in coffin ships to Australia to settle on lands cleared of aborigines. Victims or perpetrators of colonialism? The honest answer is both.
Yes except that I think you may find that the clearances were mainly carried out by the Scottish Nobility. Not therefore due to colonialism, just good old fashioned feudal hierarchy.
I was about to say the same and then decided I wouldn't don my waders and go into such dangerous waters.
I am half Irish. My stereotype is that I am always up for a punch-up (well verbal anyway). The average intellect of the Scots Nats on here rarely give me cause for concern, so it gives me pleasure to correct their fake news history.
Interesting. Do you feel a strong and unaccountable loathing for Doug Seal?
Most people do hate me to be fair. I know I’m not a very likeable person sadly.
That’s just cos you’re a lawyer. Don’t take it personally
» show previous quotes One of my sons, when at Lancaster University, was knocked about in a pub for speaking with a south Essex accent!
You weaselly arsehole Dougseal insulting me again. Shitface it is you that is hated not anything to do with being English. You are a whining , snivelling , cretinous arsewipe of the first order. Go F**k yourself you ignorant pompous little shit for brains creep. @DougSeal
You’re right Malc. I am all of those things. I am irredeemable. I have been convinced that I am no longer fit for this world. Thanks Malc for making me see my true worth.
Hoping this isn’t serious. Do not flip, Seal, do not blubber, be like other seals and chill out and stay cool.
Is this it? Have I finally found THE PERFECT PLACE???
An hour from a magnificent sun drenched Med coast, yet up in the cooler mountains. Comprised almost entirely of graceful 19th/early 20th century buildings, from Cetinje’s first stint as “Europe’s smallest capital”. Adorned with some quirky but lovable medieval ruins. Full of beautiful, friendly, welcoming people. Remarkably cheap. Famous for its honey and cheese doughnuts.
Is this it?
Nope. Chucks it down most of the year. Probably one of the rainiest cities in the world
» show previous quotes One of my sons, when at Lancaster University, was knocked about in a pub for speaking with a south Essex accent!
You weaselly arsehole Dougseal insulting me again. Shitface it is you that is hated not anything to do with being English. You are a whining , snivelling , cretinous arsewipe of the first order. Go F**k yourself you ignorant pompous little shit for brains creep. @DougSeal
McCare in the community
Another snivelling arsehole
I only snivel this way for you malc. You're pretty special.
HYUFD said: "The US, Spain, France, the Arabs etc all continued slavery long after the UK and British Empire"
Depends on which part of the United States you are talking about: Examples: 1777 "The Constitution of the Vermont Republic partially bans slavery,[64] freeing men over 21 and women older than 18 at the time of its passage.[65] The ban is not strongly enforced." 1783 "Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court rules slavery unconstitutional, a decision based on the 1780 Massachusetts constitution. All slaves are immediately freed." 1787 "The United States in Congress Assembled passes the Northwest Ordinance of 1787, outlawing any new slavery in the Northwest Territories." (The area covered by the ordinance became Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, Illinois, Wisconsin, and part of Minnesota.) source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_abolition_of_slavery_and_serfdom (That timeline deserves study, even though it omits the Gulag and the similar camps in Communist China.)
In other northern states, prior to the Civil War, slavery was often banned gradually, but it was banned in all of them long before the war.
Slavery continued in the South and border states of the USA until 1865, long after the British Empire had abolished slavery
And was abolished in many others long before. That's his point. Continual whataboutery concerning slavery is tiring. It was wrong. No matter what anyone else was doing.
Yes, but equally credit should be given to Wilberforce - who turned down high office to spend 30 years campaigning to ban the slave trade (ideally he wanted to ban slavery but didn’t manage to achieve 100% of what he sought)
Looking at friends FB posts about petrol prices......... Being medically disqualified from driving is catapulting me in to the Times Rich List #wretchednessprivilege
Looking at friends FB posts about petrol prices......... Being medically disqualified from driving is catapulting me in to the Times Rich List #wretchednessprivilege
I sold the car a few years back. No fuel bills, no insurance bills, no MOT bills, no maintenance bills,.... I just hire a car if I need one.
"Some people are being protected and others are not."
Tory MP Caroline Nokes says she was having a meeting with a senior member of the Party when Chris Pincher "came into the meeting and I could smell alcohol on him."
» show previous quotes One of my sons, when at Lancaster University, was knocked about in a pub for speaking with a south Essex accent!
You weaselly arsehole Dougseal insulting me again. Shitface it is you that is hated not anything to do with being English. You are a whining , snivelling , cretinous arsewipe of the first order. Go F**k yourself you ignorant pompous little shit for brains creep. @DougSeal
McCare in the community
Another snivelling arsehole
I only snivel this way for you malc. You're pretty special.
This is an interesting article on reliance on agency workers in social services departments. Basically, social services departments are losing permanent staff, particularly when there is an 'inadequate rating'. So then agency staff have to take their place, costing the Council on average 26k per annum more than equivalent permanent staff. Something bad happens - ie the death of a vulnerable child, then agency workers disappear with one weeks notice so they don't have to participate in any investigation. There really isn't any answer to this. It is best understood as self protection - a product of an overwhelming public desire to blame social workers for things going wrong; and the inability of public authorities to manage or respond to this process.
"as a social worker no one will fight your corner. The media always blames us when things go wrong. So when an area is facing challenges, your instinct is to get out.”
Looking at friends FB posts about petrol prices......... Being medically disqualified from driving is catapulting me in to the Times Rich List #wretchednessprivilege
I sold the car a few years back. No fuel bills, no insurance bills, no MOT bills, no maintenance bills,.... I just hire a car if I need one.
I get free bus travel in return for not being allowed to drive plus a rail card. Less convenient but im fully used to it now and its made a massive difference financially.
Looking at friends FB posts about petrol prices......... Being medically disqualified from driving is catapulting me in to the Times Rich List #wretchednessprivilege
I sold the car a few years back. No fuel bills, no insurance bills, no MOT bills, no maintenance bills,.... I just hire a car if I need one.
I get free bus travel in return for not being allowed to drive plus a rail card. Less convenient but im fully used to it now and its made a massive difference financially.
With the insane price of electric cars I doubt I will ever own one.
» show previous quotes One of my sons, when at Lancaster University, was knocked about in a pub for speaking with a south Essex accent!
You weaselly arsehole Dougseal insulting me again. Shitface it is you that is hated not anything to do with being English. You are a whining , snivelling , cretinous arsewipe of the first order. Go F**k yourself you ignorant pompous little shit for brains creep. @DougSeal
You’re right Malc. I am all of those things. I am irredeemable. I have been convinced that I am no longer fit for this world. Thanks Malc for making me see my true worth.
Malcolm's comments were totally uncalled for. Please do not take them to heart.
It's a somewhat more profound change than that. Early days still, but it looks like we're fundamentally changing the shape of the game.
I read a cricket statistics book recently that argued fairly convincingly that increasing scoring rates were giving a strong advantage to the team that won the toss and batted first, whereas previously running out of time in the match meant that the draw balanced that advantage.
If England make it four successful chases out of four then it begins to look as though they've turned that on its head.
Looking at friends FB posts about petrol prices......... Being medically disqualified from driving is catapulting me in to the Times Rich List #wretchednessprivilege
I sold the car a few years back. No fuel bills, no insurance bills, no MOT bills, no maintenance bills,.... I just hire a car if I need one.
I get free bus travel in return for not being allowed to drive plus a rail card. Less convenient but im fully used to it now and its made a massive difference financially.
With the insane price of electric cars I doubt I will ever own one.
Ill never have one unless i win the lottery and hire a driver
Is this it? Have I finally found THE PERFECT PLACE???
An hour from a magnificent sun drenched Med coast, yet up in the cooler mountains. Comprised almost entirely of graceful 19th/early 20th century buildings, from Cetinje’s first stint as “Europe’s smallest capital”. Adorned with some quirky but lovable medieval ruins. Full of beautiful, friendly, welcoming people. Remarkably cheap. Famous for its honey and cheese doughnuts.
Is this it?
Nope. Chucks it down most of the year. Probably one of the rainiest cities in the world
Have you paid your respects at the old British Embassy? AND snubbed the old French Embassy?
Might also take a dump on the steps of the old Russian Embassy, in protest against Putin's invasion. With the locals being likely to chalk it down to English eccentricity?
It’s horribly ironic that the day they are celebrating independence and their rights to have a second amendment in their newly independent constitution this happens. I’m sure the founding fathers were hoping for this…..
» show previous quotes One of my sons, when at Lancaster University, was knocked about in a pub for speaking with a south Essex accent!
You weaselly arsehole Dougseal insulting me again. Shitface it is you that is hated not anything to do with being English. You are a whining , snivelling , cretinous arsewipe of the first order. Go F**k yourself you ignorant pompous little shit for brains creep. @DougSeal
You’re right Malc. I am all of those things. I am irredeemable. I have been convinced that I am no longer fit for this world. Thanks Malc for making me see my true worth.
Malcolm's comments were totally uncalled for. Please do not take them to heart.
Yes. I nearly always defend PB free speech - and I have a soft spot for @malcolmg’s slapstick invective - but that one was out of line
@malcolmg - learn when to shut the fuck up, thanks
Is this it? Have I finally found THE PERFECT PLACE???
An hour from a magnificent sun drenched Med coast, yet up in the cooler mountains. Comprised almost entirely of graceful 19th/early 20th century buildings, from Cetinje’s first stint as “Europe’s smallest capital”. Adorned with some quirky but lovable medieval ruins. Full of beautiful, friendly, welcoming people. Remarkably cheap. Famous for its honey and cheese doughnuts.
Is this it?
Nope. Chucks it down most of the year. Probably one of the rainiest cities in the world
Have you paid your respects at the old British Embassy? AND snubbed the old French Embassy?
Might also take a dump on the steps of the old Russian Embassy, in protest against Putin's invasion. With the locals being likely to chalk it down to English eccentricity?
I’m drinking G&T about 80 yards from the old “English Embassy”
Not that anywhere is far away in this tiny town
You were so right to chivvy me into the mountains. Such a contrast with the coast. The coast is beautiful but quite touristy. I think I am the only western tourist here in Cetinje, and yet it is adorable, and surrounded by magnificent wildness and OMG vistas
I might linger a few days more in the Dinaric Alps
A helpful reminder that, despite both the rock bottom reputation of some British police forces, and the violence that undoubtedly exists in wider society, both could be an awful, awful lot worse.
Is this it? Have I finally found THE PERFECT PLACE???
An hour from a magnificent sun drenched Med coast, yet up in the cooler mountains. Comprised almost entirely of graceful 19th/early 20th century buildings, from Cetinje’s first stint as “Europe’s smallest capital”. Adorned with some quirky but lovable medieval ruins. Full of beautiful, friendly, welcoming people. Remarkably cheap. Famous for its honey and cheese doughnuts.
Is this it?
Nope. Chucks it down most of the year. Probably one of the rainiest cities in the world
» show previous quotes One of my sons, when at Lancaster University, was knocked about in a pub for speaking with a south Essex accent!
You weaselly arsehole Dougseal insulting me again. Shitface it is you that is hated not anything to do with being English. You are a whining , snivelling , cretinous arsewipe of the first order. Go F**k yourself you ignorant pompous little shit for brains creep. @DougSeal
You’re right Malc. I am all of those things. I am irredeemable. I have been convinced that I am no longer fit for this world. Thanks Malc for making me see my true worth.
@DougSeal dont take Malc seriously - he’s just as dispeptic asshole with anger issues
When has the OBR ever been right he says? When it predicted leaving the EU would damage the economy, its central forecast remains correct, to this day.
He claimed some time back that the Glasgow death rate in 1901 was the same as the South African internment camps. IIRC he got the ratio wrong by a factor of 10 - and omitted the fact that most of the camp deaths were children, not a mix of bairns and oldies.
My new house just has a tiny little yard with a high wall, and anything on the ground only gets about four hours sun a day.
So I put a big metal shelf unit by wall and made a sky garden. It’s going rather well. I’ve already had six mini cucumbers off the middle plant, and there are at least thirty coming through.
All three of the of the tomatoes have loads of flowers and green fruits growing. The pepper plant (bottom right) is struggling in the dark, but looks like it might be about to break into the light.
Thanks for that. The little 'un was fascinated with the Eiffel Tower a few years back, so I bought him a book containing piccies of it being built, along with structural diagrams. (*) Much of the text is in French, but it is a truly beautiful book.
(*) I say it was for him, I may have spent a long while looking at it.
I visited the St Anne Mission church in the middle of nowhere in Gabon that was designed by Eiffel and delivered flat-pack to be assembled. Sadly in a fairly poor state of repair now:
Ooh, the roof looks like a waterlily leaf - sort of - rib reinforced shell.
Prefabricated kirks were quite a thing in the C19 for the 'colonies' but also turned up in the more remote parts of Scotland (where it was difficult to build in conventional terms - skilled labour, materials etc.). And in some very central parts too, for speed/economy/temporariness while the main building was fundraised. No idea what happened south of the border, but I'm sure there were some too. And of course this segued into Nissen huts and so on in the C20.
Thanks for that. The little 'un was fascinated with the Eiffel Tower a few years back, so I bought him a book containing piccies of it being built, along with structural diagrams. (*) Much of the text is in French, but it is a truly beautiful book.
(*) I say it was for him, I may have spent a long while looking at it.
I visited the St Anne Mission church in the middle of nowhere in Gabon that was designed by Eiffel and delivered flat-pack to be assembled. Sadly in a fairly poor state of repair now:
Ooh, the roof looks like a waterlily leaf - sort of - rib reinforced shell.
Prefabricated kirks were quite a thing in the C19 for the 'colonies' but also turned up in the more remote parts of Scotland (where it was difficult to build in conventional terms - skilled labour, materials etc.). And in some very central parts too, for speed/economy/temporariness while the main building was fundraised. No idea what happened south of the border, but I'm sure there were some too. And of course this segued into Nissen huts and so on in the C20.
That Starmer interview with Peston is pathetic. He can't say how he would fix all of the problems of the Boris Brexit Deal because he refuses to point to the problems and say "these are the problems".
Instead its "we're looking forwards not backwards". Great! But ignoring the twin elephants in the room (our lack of a free trade deal hanks to having no customs or single market deals) just makes his position nothing but hot air.
It follows a pattern and not sure having the same policy as the conservatives is as sensible as some may think
He would have changed everything if he had said he was joining the single market but his decision has just handed the initiative to all those pro EU supporters to the lib dems
He can't become PM without regaining the redwall seats, he had no choice and Remainers will vote for him anyway outside London and Home counties seats where the LDs are the Tories main opponents
After today there is no certainty remainers will now vote Labour and it is a gift to the lib dems
In safe Labour seats leakage to the LDs is irrelevant, without regaining the Tory held marginals in the redwall however Starmer and Labour will be defeated by the Tories again
BigG is correct. Caving into bigots for electoral gain is a very poor show. Let's just hope Starmer gets the FPN and someone less dense can pull back from the brink of Leaver stupidity.
My never vote Tory narrative is under threat. If a sensible Remainer Tory Leader was elected and said SM plus FOM. I'm in. It's that big a deal.
Thanks for that. The little 'un was fascinated with the Eiffel Tower a few years back, so I bought him a book containing piccies of it being built, along with structural diagrams. (*) Much of the text is in French, but it is a truly beautiful book.
(*) I say it was for him, I may have spent a long while looking at it.
I visited the St Anne Mission church in the middle of nowhere in Gabon that was designed by Eiffel and delivered flat-pack to be assembled. Sadly in a fairly poor state of repair now:
Ooh, the roof looks like a waterlily leaf - sort of - rib reinforced shell.
Prefabricated kirks were quite a thing in the C19 for the 'colonies' but also turned up in the more remote parts of Scotland (where it was difficult to build in conventional terms - skilled labour, materials etc.). And in some very central parts too, for speed/economy/temporariness while the main building was fundraised. No idea what happened south of the border, but I'm sure there were some too. And of course this segued into Nissen huts and so on in the C20.
It never fails to bring a smile when I drive past. I think it's been several different colours whilst I've known it (25 years): green, orange and now cream. I think!
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But so it is
Which (as you of course know) signifies the "sh" sound, like the "s" (in Hungarian) in "Budapest".
Funny, I never saw you as the guru-following type.
The one and only time the Manchester Grauniad has raised a woolie smile
https://news.sky.com/story/carrie-johnson-questioned-pinchers-suitability-as-whip-as-far-back-as-2017-sky-news-understands-12645853
An hour from a magnificent sun drenched Med coast, yet up in the cooler mountains. Comprised almost entirely of graceful 19th/early 20th century buildings, from Cetinje’s first stint as “Europe’s smallest capital”. Adorned with some quirky but lovable medieval ruins. Full of beautiful, friendly, welcoming people. Remarkably cheap. Famous for its honey and cheese doughnuts.
Is this it?
Nope. Chucks it down most of the year. Probably one of the rainiest cities in the world
https://www.climatestotravel.com/climate/montenegro/cetinje
But still. Very sweet place
Being medically disqualified from driving is catapulting me in to the Times Rich List
#wretchednessprivilege
Tory MP Caroline Nokes says she was having a meeting with a senior member of the Party when Chris Pincher "came into the meeting and I could smell alcohol on him."
Mr Pincher has been approached for comment.
@carolinenokes https://twitter.com/TheNewsDesk/status/1544027505195188224/video/1
Basically, social services departments are losing permanent staff, particularly when there is an 'inadequate rating'.
So then agency staff have to take their place, costing the Council on average 26k per annum more than equivalent permanent staff.
Something bad happens - ie the death of a vulnerable child, then agency workers disappear with one weeks notice so they don't have to participate in any investigation.
There really isn't any answer to this. It is best understood as self protection - a product of an overwhelming public desire to blame social workers for things going wrong; and the inability of public authorities to manage or respond to this process.
"as a social worker no one will fight your corner. The media always blames us when things go wrong. So when an area is facing challenges, your instinct is to get out.”
https://www.lgcplus.com/services/children/how-childrens-social-care-agencies-trap-services-in-a-vicious-circle-04-07-2022/?eea=*EEA*&eea=cTVnMkZ1bnBhOEpsdVFFc2piNVMzZCtjNE1XUEJVRVpnb2QranJDRm4rZz0=&utm_source=acs&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=CONE_LGC_EDI_REGS_Daily_040722&deliveryName=DM58229
https://twitter.com/Beschizza/status/1544016118704128000
https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/1544005564128079872
Having unfettered access to 400 million guns isn’t freedom. Being able to take your kid to a Fourth of July parade without getting slaughtered is freedom.
I read a cricket statistics book recently that argued fairly convincingly that increasing scoring rates were giving a strong advantage to the team that won the toss and batted first, whereas previously running out of time in the match meant that the draw balanced that advantage.
If England make it four successful chases out of four then it begins to look as though they've turned that on its head.
I can only conclude that the English hate the English more than anyone else does.
Might also take a dump on the steps of the old Russian Embassy, in protest against Putin's invasion. With the locals being likely to chalk it down to English eccentricity?
@malcolmg - learn when to shut the fuck up, thanks
Just over an hour from Manhattan, and a kind of Hebden-Bridge-on-the-Hudson.
It’s a blissful 30 degrees and Americans are quietly celebrating Independence.
Two 13 year old boys are on the corner of the Main Street, though, holding placards saying “Don’t Celebrate Genocide!”
@Leon would be shook.
Not that anywhere is far away in this tiny town
You were so right to chivvy me into the mountains. Such a contrast with the coast. The coast is beautiful but quite touristy. I think I am the only western tourist here in Cetinje, and yet it is adorable, and surrounded by magnificent wildness and OMG vistas
I might linger a few days more in the Dinaric Alps
This thread has just been gunned down by the US cops
So I put a big metal shelf unit by wall and made a sky garden. It’s going rather well. I’ve already had six mini cucumbers off the middle plant, and there are at least thirty coming through.
All three of the of the tomatoes have loads of flowers and green fruits growing. The pepper plant (bottom right) is struggling in the dark, but looks like it might be about to break into the light.
My never vote Tory narrative is under threat. If a sensible Remainer Tory Leader was elected and said SM plus FOM. I'm in. It's that big a deal.
And a little more on its history:
https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/cambridge-fen-ditton-catholic-church-16238206
Or trying to stop civilians taking matters into their own hands.....