What a magnificent piece of twaddle. Children vary. Some are delighted to spend 4 years studying Akkadian philology with a year abroad learning Sumerian, others prefer hairdressing apprenticeships. Fortunately most of them listen politely to their parents and do exactly as they please. Leave them alone.
Wow! This is horrific. How the British Empire treated the men who died in support of the regime:
The long-held explanation is grisly: according to reports made soon after the conflict, the bones were collected, pulverised and turned into fertiliser for agricultural use.
“It is certainly a singular fact that Great Britain should have sent out multitudes of soldiers to fight the battles of this country upon the continent of Europe, and should then import the bones as an article of commerce to fatten her soil!” the London Observer reported in November 1822.
What a ludicrous take, there were more Belgians and Dutch in Wellington's forces at Waterloo v Napoleon than non Europeans from the emerging British Empire.
Not to mention the Prussians joined the British too later in the battle
Huh? Who said anything about “non-Europeans”? You have a very odd interpretation of the term British Empire excluding the Irish, Welsh, Scots, Manx or English.
Also "wage restraint" is the biggest load of shit going. It's always the lower paid who have to show "wage restraint" whilst criticising high earners for not showing "earnings restraint" is seen as what, class warfare or the politics of envy?
Wow! This is horrific. How the British Empire treated the men who died in support of the regime:
The long-held explanation is grisly: according to reports made soon after the conflict, the bones were collected, pulverised and turned into fertiliser for agricultural use.
“It is certainly a singular fact that Great Britain should have sent out multitudes of soldiers to fight the battles of this country upon the continent of Europe, and should then import the bones as an article of commerce to fatten her soil!” the London Observer reported in November 1822.
What a ludicrous take, there were more Belgians and Dutch in Wellington's forces at Waterloo v Napoleon than non Europeans from the emerging British Empire.
Not to mention the Prussians joined the British too later in the battle
Huh? Who said anything about “non-Europeans”? You have a very odd interpretation of the term British Empire excluding the Irish, Welsh, Scots, Manx or English.
None of them were colonies of the Empire no, they were all people of the United Kingdom in 1815
‘Workers cannot expect pay rises to keep up with soaring cost of living, Treasury warns’
In other words: brace yourselves for a real decline in living standards.
Why the fuck shouldn’t we expect pay rises to keep up with inflation??
As it drives inflation further and we are back to the 1970s
Then clearly we never fixed the problem.
Thatcher and Major did through tight controls on spending and wage restraint. It can come back again as it already is starting to after the Ukraine war and excess demand post lockdown
There will be no control on spending Though. The Tory client vote demands the money tap being left on.
And that's the government's (and indeed the country's) problem.
Inflation is nature's way of telling us that we can't have as many nice things as we would like. We should talk about who is protected, how to minimise and distribute the pain, but the bottom line is Fewer Nice Things overall.
There are a few problems for the UK in 2022, though.
For a start, very many people have zero capacity to absorb financial pain. Largely because so much income and wealth goes to homeowners.
Next, we have a Prime Minister who is really bad at saying no to spending.
Finally, we are a country (and the ruling generation is super bad at this) who think that we're entitled to Nice Things on demand at less than cost, because we're British or something.
Prediction: this spells trouble for Britain and it's government, especially as 30 months before the General Election is not the time to embark on this sort of project. Thatcher, Blair, Cameron all got their painful bits out of the way early. Johnson's has barely begun.
Wow! This is horrific. How the British Empire treated the men who died in support of the regime:
The long-held explanation is grisly: according to reports made soon after the conflict, the bones were collected, pulverised and turned into fertiliser for agricultural use.
“It is certainly a singular fact that Great Britain should have sent out multitudes of soldiers to fight the battles of this country upon the continent of Europe, and should then import the bones as an article of commerce to fatten her soil!” the London Observer reported in November 1822.
What a ludicrous take, there were more Belgians and Dutch in Wellington's forces at Waterloo v Napoleon than non Europeans from the emerging British Empire.
Not to mention the Prussians joined the British too later in the battle
Who mentioned non Europeans? English, Scottish and Irish troops were as much defenders of the Empire as anyone. I believe at least half of Wellington's British troops were Irish and Scottish.
They weren't part of the Empire but the Union of the UK.
Indeed most of the Empire in Africa and the Middle East for example had not yet been created and in India, Australia, Canada and New Zealand it was only barely emerging.
Wow! This is horrific. How the British Empire treated the men who died in support of the regime:
The long-held explanation is grisly: according to reports made soon after the conflict, the bones were collected, pulverised and turned into fertiliser for agricultural use.
“It is certainly a singular fact that Great Britain should have sent out multitudes of soldiers to fight the battles of this country upon the continent of Europe, and should then import the bones as an article of commerce to fatten her soil!” the London Observer reported in November 1822.
What a ludicrous take, there were more Belgians and Dutch in Wellington's forces at Waterloo v Napoleon than non Europeans from the emerging British Empire.
Not to mention the Prussians joined the British too later in the battle
Huh? Who said anything about “non-Europeans”? You have a very odd interpretation of the term British Empire excluding the Irish, Welsh, Scots, Manx or English.
None of them were colonies of the Empire no, they were all people of the United Kingdom in 1815
People of the territories according to Thatcher mini me.
Wow! This is horrific. How the British Empire treated the men who died in support of the regime:
The long-held explanation is grisly: according to reports made soon after the conflict, the bones were collected, pulverised and turned into fertiliser for agricultural use.
“It is certainly a singular fact that Great Britain should have sent out multitudes of soldiers to fight the battles of this country upon the continent of Europe, and should then import the bones as an article of commerce to fatten her soil!” the London Observer reported in November 1822.
Interesting issues of how reliable apparen t eyewitness artists can be, and whether or not they really did gather and process the bones for fertiliser (does seem to have happened on some battlefields).
Lol, Yoons so desperate that they're reduced to bigging up Scotland. I wonder who is the 'we' that Murdo keeps referring to who will be losing all that good shit?
“We lose … roughly 1/3 of the land mass of Great Britain, probably about half of our territorial waters, we lose the magnificent resource that is Scottish fishing waters, we lose the opportunities from North sea oil and gas (still there despite Nicola Sturgeon’s best efforts), we lose the potential for renewable energy from Scotland’s coasts in the North Sea and the Atlantic, we lose access to barrier-free trade for scotch whisky and scotch salmon, all these fantastic exports, and the opportunity to study at some of the world’s greatest universities … and the joy of having Scots as part of the great British nation … why would you want to throw all that away?”
And Scots lose the biggest and wealthiest city in Europe, the largest financial centre in Europe, the 2 best universities in Europe and membership of the G7, G20 and permanent membership of the UN Security Council
Moscow's not in the UK.
As for the unis, I reckon Hull would be interested in an offer from Scotland.
It is. It's just outside Kilmarnock. I have a picture of me aged 7 standing next to the road sign.
Hi Cyclefree, I read your post with some interest. I know nothing about the ECHR but am against an unknown foreign Judge ruling against our Government policy before our own law courts have. My background is I'm sure very different to yours - the vast majority of people that I know who voted Leave were mainly former Labour voters - I voted for Nick Palmer in 1997, 2001 and 2005 - had left Broxtowe by 2010. However the attitude shown to Labour Leavers by Labour after 2016 was disgusting - being called a racist and a moron etc which still continues today. All three of my granddaughters voted Leave. The Tories are not particularly popular I think with Labour Leavers - see the popularity of The Ashfield Independents in my patch Hucknall but in a straight fight with Labour will still vote for Boris. The strange thing is I most probably agree 90% with CHB and his policies except of course on Brexit - do I regret voting Leave? No always thought it would take us a long time to get the benefits assuming there are any. Are there any Labour activists who voted Leave on PB?
I attended what are now Russell group universities, as did my wife and all my children. It always was and is still a terrible idea to do so for the money.
What a magnificent piece of twaddle. Children vary. Some are delighted to spend 4 years studying Akkadian philology with a year abroad learning Sumerian, others prefer hairdressing apprenticeships. Fortunately most of them listen politely to their parents and do exactly as they please. Leave them alone.
Wow! This is horrific. How the British Empire treated the men who died in support of the regime:
The long-held explanation is grisly: according to reports made soon after the conflict, the bones were collected, pulverised and turned into fertiliser for agricultural use.
“It is certainly a singular fact that Great Britain should have sent out multitudes of soldiers to fight the battles of this country upon the continent of Europe, and should then import the bones as an article of commerce to fatten her soil!” the London Observer reported in November 1822.
Interesting issues of how reliable apparen t eyewitness artists can be, and whether or not they really did gather and process the bones for fertiliser (does seem to have happened on some battlefields).
I think the use of the teeth of the Waterloo dead for falsers is pretty much incontravertible? Personally I'd see that as lack of C19th squeamishness as much as lack of respect for the dead. Odd that that pragmatism existed alongside a horror of dead bodies used for dissection.
What a magnificent piece of twaddle. Children vary. Some are delighted to spend 4 years studying Akkadian philology with a year abroad learning Sumerian, others prefer hairdressing apprenticeships. Fortunately most of them listen politely to their parents and do exactly as they please. Leave them alone.
Lol, Yoons so desperate that they're reduced to bigging up Scotland. I wonder who is the 'we' that Murdo keeps referring to who will be losing all that good shit?
“We lose … roughly 1/3 of the land mass of Great Britain, probably about half of our territorial waters, we lose the magnificent resource that is Scottish fishing waters, we lose the opportunities from North sea oil and gas (still there despite Nicola Sturgeon’s best efforts), we lose the potential for renewable energy from Scotland’s coasts in the North Sea and the Atlantic, we lose access to barrier-free trade for scotch whisky and scotch salmon, all these fantastic exports, and the opportunity to study at some of the world’s greatest universities … and the joy of having Scots as part of the great British nation … why would you want to throw all that away?”
And Scots lose the biggest and wealthiest city in Europe, the largest financial centre in Europe, the 2 best universities in Europe and membership of the G7, G20 and permanent membership of the UN Security Council
Moscow's not in the UK.
As for the unis, I reckon Hull would be interested in an offer from Scotland.
It is. It's just outside Kilmarnock. I have a picture of me aged 7 standing next to the road sign.
Wow! This is horrific. How the British Empire treated the men who died in support of the regime:
The long-held explanation is grisly: according to reports made soon after the conflict, the bones were collected, pulverised and turned into fertiliser for agricultural use.
“It is certainly a singular fact that Great Britain should have sent out multitudes of soldiers to fight the battles of this country upon the continent of Europe, and should then import the bones as an article of commerce to fatten her soil!” the London Observer reported in November 1822.
What a ludicrous take, there were more Belgians and Dutch in Wellington's forces at Waterloo v Napoleon than non Europeans from the emerging British Empire.
Not to mention the Prussians joined the British too later in the battle
Huh? Who said anything about “non-Europeans”? You have a very odd interpretation of the term British Empire excluding the Irish, Welsh, Scots, Manx or English.
None of them were colonies of the Empire no, they were all people of the United Kingdom in 1815
People of the territories according to Thatcher mini me.
An expensive higher education should be the exclusive right of the upper classes (whoever they may be). Isn't that right HYUFD?
My view is, if three years reading for a non- vocational university degree is good enough for Boris Johnson, it is not too good for my children.
I wonder how many of the numerous (final number tbc) Johnson sprogs will be applying for apprenticeships?
When one of the Royals opts for an NVQ in Health and Social Care. That will be the measure of an equal opportunity society.
The Queen was a mechanic in the War, Princess Margaret's son was a carpenter
Mr Armstrong-Jones would be mortified to read that! He's a furniture designer and joiner.
Since when have you not needed an apprenticeship to become a joiner?
Eeh, it were hell, bread and dripping and belted if you answered back.
'Followed by the pre-preparatory section of Ashdown House School, East Sussex, then on to Millbrook House School, near Abingdon, in Oxfordshire, and finally to Bedales School, where he developed a passion for arts and crafts. From 1980 to 1982 he studied at Parnham House in the small town of Beaminster in Dorset, for craftsmen in wood.'
I can't believe the average years worked is the same in each case. Apprentices may start three years earlier but my impression is there are not many trades in their early or mid 60s. The work is also more strenuous and not resilient to physical challenges. Finally I would be stunned if pensions are comparable on average.
Wow! This is horrific. How the British Empire treated the men who died in support of the regime:
The long-held explanation is grisly: according to reports made soon after the conflict, the bones were collected, pulverised and turned into fertiliser for agricultural use.
“It is certainly a singular fact that Great Britain should have sent out multitudes of soldiers to fight the battles of this country upon the continent of Europe, and should then import the bones as an article of commerce to fatten her soil!” the London Observer reported in November 1822.
What a ludicrous take, there were more Belgians and Dutch in Wellington's forces at Waterloo v Napoleon than non Europeans from the emerging British Empire.
Not to mention the Prussians joined the British too later in the battle
Huh? Who said anything about “non-Europeans”? You have a very odd interpretation of the term British Empire excluding the Irish, Welsh, Scots, Manx or English.
None of them were colonies of the Empire no, they were all people of the United Kingdom in 1815
People of the territories according to Thatcher mini me.
Spike protein was detected up to twelve months after infection in individuals showing long Covid symptoms, but in none of the (previously infected, but fully recovered) control group. It’s a relatively small study, but the results look quite robust.
Also interesting is that it seems the majority of those reporting long Covid symptoms are women (there are significant differences in immune response between the sexes).
One for you
“The chances that COVID leaked from China’s secretive virology lab in Wuhan are “99.9%,” but the World Health Organization (WHO) will probably never be able to prove it, Johns Hopkins Professor Marty Makary told “Morning Wire,” in an exclusive interview Friday.
“The WHO probe is taking place even as China goes on the offensive, claiming the virus that has killed over 6 million people worldwide started in the U.S. But Makary, a best-selling author and surgeon, said it has always been obvious where it originated. “For a lot of scientists, it’s 99.9% likely,” Makary said. “And it’s the default hypothesis until proven otherwise.””
An interesting number to attach to something you also state can’t be proved. Doesn’t sound much of a scientist.
He's a surgical oncologist who has been opining a lot on immunology and virology and often has opinions published that are at odds with leading immunologists and virologists.
He informed us all that only 20% of Americans needed to be vaccinated for covid to vanish, and it would all be gone by April 2021. He's one of the go to scientists for the antivaxxers as well.
It was, of course, a bunch of “leading virologists” who told us the Lab Leak Hypothesis was a “racist conspiracy theory”, and forbade us from even talking about it
I hope you're not drifting back to posting links from far right crazies. You've done less of that in recent times, credit where credit's due.
It's a good idea to follow Chris Rufo on twitter. That way you get a 3-month headstart on what ridiculois concocted American Right Wing culture war "issue" Leon will be spouting about.
Wow! This is horrific. How the British Empire treated the men who died in support of the regime:
The long-held explanation is grisly: according to reports made soon after the conflict, the bones were collected, pulverised and turned into fertiliser for agricultural use.
“It is certainly a singular fact that Great Britain should have sent out multitudes of soldiers to fight the battles of this country upon the continent of Europe, and should then import the bones as an article of commerce to fatten her soil!” the London Observer reported in November 1822.
What a ludicrous take, there were more Belgians and Dutch in Wellington's forces at Waterloo v Napoleon than non Europeans from the emerging British Empire.
Not to mention the Prussians joined the British too later in the battle
Huh? Who said anything about “non-Europeans”? You have a very odd interpretation of the term British Empire excluding the Irish, Welsh, Scots, Manx or English.
None of them were colonies of the Empire no, they were all people of the United Kingdom in 1815
People of the territories according to Thatcher mini me.
Wow! This is horrific. How the British Empire treated the men who died in support of the regime:
The long-held explanation is grisly: according to reports made soon after the conflict, the bones were collected, pulverised and turned into fertiliser for agricultural use.
“It is certainly a singular fact that Great Britain should have sent out multitudes of soldiers to fight the battles of this country upon the continent of Europe, and should then import the bones as an article of commerce to fatten her soil!” the London Observer reported in November 1822.
What a ludicrous take, there were more Belgians and Dutch in Wellington's forces at Waterloo v Napoleon than non Europeans from the emerging British Empire.
Not to mention the Prussians joined the British too later in the battle
Huh? Who said anything about “non-Europeans”? You have a very odd interpretation of the term British Empire excluding the Irish, Welsh, Scots, Manx or English.
None of them were colonies of the Empire no, they were all people of the United Kingdom in 1815
People of the territories according to Thatcher mini me.
An expensive higher education should be the exclusive right of the upper classes (whoever they may be). Isn't that right HYUFD?
My view is, if three years reading for a non- vocational university degree is good enough for Boris Johnson, it is not too good for my children.
I wonder how many of the numerous (final number tbc) Johnson sprogs will be applying for apprenticeships?
When one of the Royals opts for an NVQ in Health and Social Care. That will be the measure of an equal opportunity society.
The Queen was a mechanic in the War, Princess Margaret's son was a carpenter
Mr Armstrong-Jones would be mortified to read that! He's a furniture designer and joiner.
Since when have you not needed an apprenticeship to become a joiner?
Eeh, it were hell, bread and dripping and belted if you answered back.
'Followed by the pre-preparatory section of Ashdown House School, East Sussex, then on to Millbrook House School, near Abingdon, in Oxfordshire, and finally to Bedales School, where he developed a passion for arts and crafts. From 1980 to 1982 he studied at Parnham House in the small town of Beaminster in Dorset, for craftsmen in wood.'
So he studied craftsmanship at Parnham House where he did his apprenticeship in furniture making
An expensive higher education should be the exclusive right of the upper classes (whoever they may be). Isn't that right HYUFD?
My view is, if three years reading for a non- vocational university degree is good enough for Boris Johnson, it is not too good for my children.
I wonder how many of the numerous (final number tbc) Johnson sprogs will be applying for apprenticeships?
When one of the Royals opts for an NVQ in Health and Social Care. That will be the measure of an equal opportunity society.
The Queen was a mechanic in the War, Princess Margaret's son was a carpenter
Mr Armstrong-Jones would be mortified to read that! He's a furniture designer and joiner.
Since when have you not needed an apprenticeship to become a joiner?
Eeh, it were hell, bread and dripping and belted if you answered back.
'Followed by the pre-preparatory section of Ashdown House School, East Sussex, then on to Millbrook House School, near Abingdon, in Oxfordshire, and finally to Bedales School, where he developed a passion for arts and crafts. From 1980 to 1982 he studied at Parnham House in the small town of Beaminster in Dorset, for craftsmen in wood.'
How the landed classes treat their dimmer offspring.
Wow! This is horrific. How the British Empire treated the men who died in support of the regime:
The long-held explanation is grisly: according to reports made soon after the conflict, the bones were collected, pulverised and turned into fertiliser for agricultural use.
“It is certainly a singular fact that Great Britain should have sent out multitudes of soldiers to fight the battles of this country upon the continent of Europe, and should then import the bones as an article of commerce to fatten her soil!” the London Observer reported in November 1822.
What a ludicrous take, there were more Belgians and Dutch in Wellington's forces at Waterloo v Napoleon than non Europeans from the emerging British Empire.
Not to mention the Prussians joined the British too later in the battle
Huh? Who said anything about “non-Europeans”? You have a very odd interpretation of the term British Empire excluding the Irish, Welsh, Scots, Manx or English.
None of them were colonies of the Empire no, they were all people of the United Kingdom in 1815
People of the territories according to Thatcher mini me.
England doesn't have its own Parliament unlike the other 3, so the UK PM is also effectively English FM
Aside from the word effective being attached to BJ, he's effectively English FM and actually the minister for the Union? No conflict of interest there d'ye think?
I love tone deaf Tory dimwits unwittingly revealing the actualité of the Union, long may it continue.
I do wonder whether you will be fighting tooth and claw for your offspring to attend a Russell Group University, or alternatively will you be signing them up for an apprenticeship with Tata Steel?
Wow! This is horrific. How the British Empire treated the men who died in support of the regime:
The long-held explanation is grisly: according to reports made soon after the conflict, the bones were collected, pulverised and turned into fertiliser for agricultural use.
“It is certainly a singular fact that Great Britain should have sent out multitudes of soldiers to fight the battles of this country upon the continent of Europe, and should then import the bones as an article of commerce to fatten her soil!” the London Observer reported in November 1822.
What a ludicrous take, there were more Belgians and Dutch in Wellington's forces at Waterloo v Napoleon than non Europeans from the emerging British Empire.
Not to mention the Prussians joined the British too later in the battle
Huh? Who said anything about “non-Europeans”? You have a very odd interpretation of the term British Empire excluding the Irish, Welsh, Scots, Manx or English.
None of them were colonies of the Empire no, they were all people of the United Kingdom in 1815
People of the territories according to Thatcher mini me.
In the same place as the English parliament I assume. England is the big, ugly home nation we don't speak of. We certainly don't need a department looking after its interests.
Wow! This is horrific. How the British Empire treated the men who died in support of the regime:
The long-held explanation is grisly: according to reports made soon after the conflict, the bones were collected, pulverised and turned into fertiliser for agricultural use.
“It is certainly a singular fact that Great Britain should have sent out multitudes of soldiers to fight the battles of this country upon the continent of Europe, and should then import the bones as an article of commerce to fatten her soil!” the London Observer reported in November 1822.
What a ludicrous take, there were more Belgians and Dutch in Wellington's forces at Waterloo v Napoleon than non Europeans from the emerging British Empire.
Not to mention the Prussians joined the British too later in the battle
Huh? Who said anything about “non-Europeans”? You have a very odd interpretation of the term British Empire excluding the Irish, Welsh, Scots, Manx or English.
None of them were colonies of the Empire no, they were all people of the United Kingdom in 1815
People of the territories according to Thatcher mini me.
Lol, Yoons so desperate that they're reduced to bigging up Scotland. I wonder who is the 'we' that Murdo keeps referring to who will be losing all that good shit?
“We lose … roughly 1/3 of the land mass of Great Britain, probably about half of our territorial waters, we lose the magnificent resource that is Scottish fishing waters, we lose the opportunities from North sea oil and gas (still there despite Nicola Sturgeon’s best efforts), we lose the potential for renewable energy from Scotland’s coasts in the North Sea and the Atlantic, we lose access to barrier-free trade for scotch whisky and scotch salmon, all these fantastic exports, and the opportunity to study at some of the world’s greatest universities … and the joy of having Scots as part of the great British nation … why would you want to throw all that away?”
And Scots lose the biggest and wealthiest city in Europe, the largest financial centre in Europe, the 2 best universities in Europe and membership of the G7, G20 and permanent membership of the UN Security Council
Moscow's not in the UK.
As for the unis, I reckon Hull would be interested in an offer from Scotland.
It is. It's just outside Kilmarnock. I have a picture of me aged 7 standing next to the road sign.
So you're saying Hyufd's wrong and Scotland would keep Moscow, Europe's largest city, in the event of independence?
I do wonder whether you will be fighting tooth and claw for your offspring to attend a Russell Group University, or alternatively will you be signing them up for an apprenticeship with Tata Steel?
I suspect I know the answer.
Depends how bright they are. If they are an A* or A grade student I would certainly suggest they aim for a Russell Group university and to become a doctor or lawyer etc.
If not I would suggest they aim for an apprenticeship
Spike protein was detected up to twelve months after infection in individuals showing long Covid symptoms, but in none of the (previously infected, but fully recovered) control group. It’s a relatively small study, but the results look quite robust.
Also interesting is that it seems the majority of those reporting long Covid symptoms are women (there are significant differences in immune response between the sexes).
One for you
“The chances that COVID leaked from China’s secretive virology lab in Wuhan are “99.9%,” but the World Health Organization (WHO) will probably never be able to prove it, Johns Hopkins Professor Marty Makary told “Morning Wire,” in an exclusive interview Friday.
“The WHO probe is taking place even as China goes on the offensive, claiming the virus that has killed over 6 million people worldwide started in the U.S. But Makary, a best-selling author and surgeon, said it has always been obvious where it originated. “For a lot of scientists, it’s 99.9% likely,” Makary said. “And it’s the default hypothesis until proven otherwise.””
An interesting number to attach to something you also state can’t be proved. Doesn’t sound much of a scientist.
He's a surgical oncologist who has been opining a lot on immunology and virology and often has opinions published that are at odds with leading immunologists and virologists.
He informed us all that only 20% of Americans needed to be vaccinated for covid to vanish, and it would all be gone by April 2021. He's one of the go to scientists for the antivaxxers as well.
It was, of course, a bunch of “leading virologists” who told us the Lab Leak Hypothesis was a “racist conspiracy theory”, and forbade us from even talking about it
I hope you're not drifting back to posting links from far right crazies. You've done less of that in recent times, credit where credit's due.
It's a good idea to follow Chris Rufo on twitter. That way you get a 3-month headstart on what ridiculois concocted American Right Wing culture war "issue" Leon will be spouting about.
Please tell me that “Chris Rufo” is not another one of Sean’s sockpuppets.
Wow! This is horrific. How the British Empire treated the men who died in support of the regime:
The long-held explanation is grisly: according to reports made soon after the conflict, the bones were collected, pulverised and turned into fertiliser for agricultural use.
“It is certainly a singular fact that Great Britain should have sent out multitudes of soldiers to fight the battles of this country upon the continent of Europe, and should then import the bones as an article of commerce to fatten her soil!” the London Observer reported in November 1822.
What a ludicrous take, there were more Belgians and Dutch in Wellington's forces at Waterloo v Napoleon than non Europeans from the emerging British Empire.
Not to mention the Prussians joined the British too later in the battle
Huh? Who said anything about “non-Europeans”? You have a very odd interpretation of the term British Empire excluding the Irish, Welsh, Scots, Manx or English.
None of them were colonies of the Empire no, they were all people of the United Kingdom in 1815
People of the territories according to Thatcher mini me.
England doesn't have its own Parliament unlike the other 3, so the UK PM is also effectively English FM
Aside from the word effective being attached to BJ, he's effectively English FM and actually the minister for the Union? No conflict of interest there d'ye think?
I love tone deaf Tory dimwits unwittingly revealing the actualité of the Union, long may it continue.
No as his UK PM role ie ultimate responsibility for income tax, defence, foreign policy etc is separate to his role as English FM and responsibility for English domestic policy and health and education and the police etc in England
Wow! This is horrific. How the British Empire treated the men who died in support of the regime:
The long-held explanation is grisly: according to reports made soon after the conflict, the bones were collected, pulverised and turned into fertiliser for agricultural use.
“It is certainly a singular fact that Great Britain should have sent out multitudes of soldiers to fight the battles of this country upon the continent of Europe, and should then import the bones as an article of commerce to fatten her soil!” the London Observer reported in November 1822.
What a ludicrous take, there were more Belgians and Dutch in Wellington's forces at Waterloo v Napoleon than non Europeans from the emerging British Empire.
Not to mention the Prussians joined the British too later in the battle
Huh? Who said anything about “non-Europeans”? You have a very odd interpretation of the term British Empire excluding the Irish, Welsh, Scots, Manx or English.
None of them were colonies of the Empire no, they were all people of the United Kingdom in 1815
People of the territories according to Thatcher mini me.
Wow! This is horrific. How the British Empire treated the men who died in support of the regime:
The long-held explanation is grisly: according to reports made soon after the conflict, the bones were collected, pulverised and turned into fertiliser for agricultural use.
“It is certainly a singular fact that Great Britain should have sent out multitudes of soldiers to fight the battles of this country upon the continent of Europe, and should then import the bones as an article of commerce to fatten her soil!” the London Observer reported in November 1822.
What a ludicrous take, there were more Belgians and Dutch in Wellington's forces at Waterloo v Napoleon than non Europeans from the emerging British Empire.
Not to mention the Prussians joined the British too later in the battle
Huh? Who said anything about “non-Europeans”? You have a very odd interpretation of the term British Empire excluding the Irish, Welsh, Scots, Manx or English.
None of them were colonies of the Empire no, they were all people of the United Kingdom in 1815
People of the territories according to Thatcher mini me.
Lol, Yoons so desperate that they're reduced to bigging up Scotland. I wonder who is the 'we' that Murdo keeps referring to who will be losing all that good shit?
“We lose … roughly 1/3 of the land mass of Great Britain, probably about half of our territorial waters, we lose the magnificent resource that is Scottish fishing waters, we lose the opportunities from North sea oil and gas (still there despite Nicola Sturgeon’s best efforts), we lose the potential for renewable energy from Scotland’s coasts in the North Sea and the Atlantic, we lose access to barrier-free trade for scotch whisky and scotch salmon, all these fantastic exports, and the opportunity to study at some of the world’s greatest universities … and the joy of having Scots as part of the great British nation … why would you want to throw all that away?”
And Scots lose the biggest and wealthiest city in Europe, the largest financial centre in Europe, the 2 best universities in Europe and membership of the G7, G20 and permanent membership of the UN Security Council
Moscow's not in the UK.
As for the unis, I reckon Hull would be interested in an offer from Scotland.
It is. It's just outside Kilmarnock. I have a picture of me aged 7 standing next to the road sign.
So you're saying Hyufd's wrong and Scotland would keep Moscow, Europe's largest city, in the event of independence?
Moscow is not Europe's wealthiest city by gdp, London is.
It is not even Europe's largest city by population, Istanbul is
Lol, Yoons so desperate that they're reduced to bigging up Scotland. I wonder who is the 'we' that Murdo keeps referring to who will be losing all that good shit?
“We lose … roughly 1/3 of the land mass of Great Britain, probably about half of our territorial waters, we lose the magnificent resource that is Scottish fishing waters, we lose the opportunities from North sea oil and gas (still there despite Nicola Sturgeon’s best efforts), we lose the potential for renewable energy from Scotland’s coasts in the North Sea and the Atlantic, we lose access to barrier-free trade for scotch whisky and scotch salmon, all these fantastic exports, and the opportunity to study at some of the world’s greatest universities … and the joy of having Scots as part of the great British nation … why would you want to throw all that away?”
And Scots lose the biggest and wealthiest city in Europe, the largest financial centre in Europe, the 2 best universities in Europe and membership of the G7, G20 and permanent membership of the UN Security Council
Moscow's not in the UK.
As for the unis, I reckon Hull would be interested in an offer from Scotland.
It is. It's just outside Kilmarnock. I have a picture of me aged 7 standing next to the road sign.
So you're saying Hyufd's wrong and Scotland would keep Moscow, Europe's largest city, in the event of independence?
To be honest I couldn't make head nor tail of HYUFD's post. Was it coded?
I just added a quirk of geographical place names into the mix for light relief.
Lol, Yoons so desperate that they're reduced to bigging up Scotland. I wonder who is the 'we' that Murdo keeps referring to who will be losing all that good shit?
“We lose … roughly 1/3 of the land mass of Great Britain, probably about half of our territorial waters, we lose the magnificent resource that is Scottish fishing waters, we lose the opportunities from North sea oil and gas (still there despite Nicola Sturgeon’s best efforts), we lose the potential for renewable energy from Scotland’s coasts in the North Sea and the Atlantic, we lose access to barrier-free trade for scotch whisky and scotch salmon, all these fantastic exports, and the opportunity to study at some of the world’s greatest universities … and the joy of having Scots as part of the great British nation … why would you want to throw all that away?”
And Scots lose the biggest and wealthiest city in Europe, the largest financial centre in Europe, the 2 best universities in Europe and membership of the G7, G20 and permanent membership of the UN Security Council
Moscow's not in the UK.
As for the unis, I reckon Hull would be interested in an offer from Scotland.
It is. It's just outside Kilmarnock. I have a picture of me aged 7 standing next to the road sign.
So you're saying Hyufd's wrong and Scotland would keep Moscow, Europe's largest city, in the event of independence?
Moscow is not Europe's wealthiest city by gdp, London is
Lol, Yoons so desperate that they're reduced to bigging up Scotland. I wonder who is the 'we' that Murdo keeps referring to who will be losing all that good shit?
“We lose … roughly 1/3 of the land mass of Great Britain, probably about half of our territorial waters, we lose the magnificent resource that is Scottish fishing waters, we lose the opportunities from North sea oil and gas (still there despite Nicola Sturgeon’s best efforts), we lose the potential for renewable energy from Scotland’s coasts in the North Sea and the Atlantic, we lose access to barrier-free trade for scotch whisky and scotch salmon, all these fantastic exports, and the opportunity to study at some of the world’s greatest universities … and the joy of having Scots as part of the great British nation … why would you want to throw all that away?”
And Scots lose the biggest and wealthiest city in Europe, the largest financial centre in Europe, the 2 best universities in Europe and membership of the G7, G20 and permanent membership of the UN Security Council
Moscow's not in the UK.
As for the unis, I reckon Hull would be interested in an offer from Scotland.
It is. It's just outside Kilmarnock. I have a picture of me aged 7 standing next to the road sign.
So you're saying Hyufd's wrong and Scotland would keep Moscow, Europe's largest city, in the event of independence?
Moscow is not Europe's wealthiest city by gdp, London is
I wouldn't dream of suggesting what education or career my children should pursue. And if I did I would be extremely disappointed if they took a blind bit of notice. It's their life not mine.
Lol, Yoons so desperate that they're reduced to bigging up Scotland. I wonder who is the 'we' that Murdo keeps referring to who will be losing all that good shit?
“We lose … roughly 1/3 of the land mass of Great Britain, probably about half of our territorial waters, we lose the magnificent resource that is Scottish fishing waters, we lose the opportunities from North sea oil and gas (still there despite Nicola Sturgeon’s best efforts), we lose the potential for renewable energy from Scotland’s coasts in the North Sea and the Atlantic, we lose access to barrier-free trade for scotch whisky and scotch salmon, all these fantastic exports, and the opportunity to study at some of the world’s greatest universities … and the joy of having Scots as part of the great British nation … why would you want to throw all that away?”
And Scots lose the biggest and wealthiest city in Europe, the largest financial centre in Europe, the 2 best universities in Europe and membership of the G7, G20 and permanent membership of the UN Security Council
Moscow's not in the UK.
As for the unis, I reckon Hull would be interested in an offer from Scotland.
It is. It's just outside Kilmarnock. I have a picture of me aged 7 standing next to the road sign.
So you're saying Hyufd's wrong and Scotland would keep Moscow, Europe's largest city, in the event of independence?
Moscow is not Europe's wealthiest city by gdp, London is
But it is the largest.
Look, HYUFD didn't get where he is today by answering questions that people actually ask rather than the ones in his head.
I do wonder whether you will be fighting tooth and claw for your offspring to attend a Russell Group University, or alternatively will you be signing them up for an apprenticeship with Tata Steel?
I suspect I know the answer.
Depends how bright they are. If they are an A* or A grade student I would certainly suggest they aim for a Russell Group university and to become a doctor or lawyer etc.
If not I would suggest they aim for an apprenticeship
It's not about bright. Your offspring will attend the finest state Grammar Schools and benefit from the best cramming courses money can buy.
Tell me I was wrong when the time comes, although you will likely require a ouija board to find me.
Lol, Yoons so desperate that they're reduced to bigging up Scotland. I wonder who is the 'we' that Murdo keeps referring to who will be losing all that good shit?
“We lose … roughly 1/3 of the land mass of Great Britain, probably about half of our territorial waters, we lose the magnificent resource that is Scottish fishing waters, we lose the opportunities from North sea oil and gas (still there despite Nicola Sturgeon’s best efforts), we lose the potential for renewable energy from Scotland’s coasts in the North Sea and the Atlantic, we lose access to barrier-free trade for scotch whisky and scotch salmon, all these fantastic exports, and the opportunity to study at some of the world’s greatest universities … and the joy of having Scots as part of the great British nation … why would you want to throw all that away?”
And Scots lose the biggest and wealthiest city in Europe, the largest financial centre in Europe, the 2 best universities in Europe and membership of the G7, G20 and permanent membership of the UN Security Council
Moscow's not in the UK.
As for the unis, I reckon Hull would be interested in an offer from Scotland.
It is. It's just outside Kilmarnock. I have a picture of me aged 7 standing next to the road sign.
So you're saying Hyufd's wrong and Scotland would keep Moscow, Europe's largest city, in the event of independence?
Moscow is not Europe's wealthiest city by gdp, London is.
It is not even Europe's largest city by population, Istanbul is
"Here was I, diggin' this hole, a hole in the ground, so deep and very round...".
Lol, Yoons so desperate that they're reduced to bigging up Scotland. I wonder who is the 'we' that Murdo keeps referring to who will be losing all that good shit?
“We lose … roughly 1/3 of the land mass of Great Britain, probably about half of our territorial waters, we lose the magnificent resource that is Scottish fishing waters, we lose the opportunities from North sea oil and gas (still there despite Nicola Sturgeon’s best efforts), we lose the potential for renewable energy from Scotland’s coasts in the North Sea and the Atlantic, we lose access to barrier-free trade for scotch whisky and scotch salmon, all these fantastic exports, and the opportunity to study at some of the world’s greatest universities … and the joy of having Scots as part of the great British nation … why would you want to throw all that away?”
And Scots lose the biggest and wealthiest city in Europe, the largest financial centre in Europe, the 2 best universities in Europe and membership of the G7, G20 and permanent membership of the UN Security Council
Moscow's not in the UK.
As for the unis, I reckon Hull would be interested in an offer from Scotland.
It is. It's just outside Kilmarnock. I have a picture of me aged 7 standing next to the road sign.
So you're saying Hyufd's wrong and Scotland would keep Moscow, Europe's largest city, in the event of independence?
Moscow is not Europe's wealthiest city by gdp, London is
Wow! This is horrific. How the British Empire treated the men who died in support of the regime:
The long-held explanation is grisly: according to reports made soon after the conflict, the bones were collected, pulverised and turned into fertiliser for agricultural use.
“It is certainly a singular fact that Great Britain should have sent out multitudes of soldiers to fight the battles of this country upon the continent of Europe, and should then import the bones as an article of commerce to fatten her soil!” the London Observer reported in November 1822.
What a ludicrous take, there were more Belgians and Dutch in Wellington's forces at Waterloo v Napoleon than non Europeans from the emerging British Empire.
Not to mention the Prussians joined the British too later in the battle
Huh? Who said anything about “non-Europeans”? You have a very odd interpretation of the term British Empire excluding the Irish, Welsh, Scots, Manx or English.
None of them were colonies of the Empire no, they were all people of the United Kingdom in 1815
People of the territories according to Thatcher mini me.
Is "Devon's Choice" an actual publication or just a Tory leaflet?
If the latter, "Our view on the by-election Why we're backing Helen Hurford" is a bit disingenuous, to put it mildly.
It is by far the best chance to scrape a Tory win in the by election though, with a good local candidate the focus
Being converted to LD tactics I see. Those tactics you said you deplored a week or so ago. Even getting into the language - ' focus'
I continue to think that young HY will end up as a Lib Dem - though probably not until he lies on his death bed, many years from now. He will expire, uttering the famous last words, "Yes, you were right all along. Boris Johnson was definitely not worth it."
Is "Devon's Choice" an actual publication or just a Tory leaflet?
If the latter, "Our view on the by-election Why we're backing Helen Hurford" is a bit disingenuous, to put it mildly.
It is by far the best chance to scrape a Tory win in the by election though, with a good local candidate the focus
Being converted to LD tactics I see. Those tactics you said you deplored a week or so ago. Even getting into the language - ' focus'
I continue to think that young HY will end up as a Lib Dem - though probably not until he lies on his death bed, many years from now. He will expire, uttering the famous last words, "Yes, you were right all along. Boris Johnson was definitely not worth it."
Or perhaps a la Bertrand Russell: 'Good Lord! The ontological argument works!'
Lol, Yoons so desperate that they're reduced to bigging up Scotland. I wonder who is the 'we' that Murdo keeps referring to who will be losing all that good shit?
“We lose … roughly 1/3 of the land mass of Great Britain, probably about half of our territorial waters, we lose the magnificent resource that is Scottish fishing waters, we lose the opportunities from North sea oil and gas (still there despite Nicola Sturgeon’s best efforts), we lose the potential for renewable energy from Scotland’s coasts in the North Sea and the Atlantic, we lose access to barrier-free trade for scotch whisky and scotch salmon, all these fantastic exports, and the opportunity to study at some of the world’s greatest universities … and the joy of having Scots as part of the great British nation … why would you want to throw all that away?”
And Scots lose the biggest and wealthiest city in Europe, the largest financial centre in Europe, the 2 best universities in Europe and membership of the G7, G20 and permanent membership of the UN Security Council
Moscow's not in the UK.
As for the unis, I reckon Hull would be interested in an offer from Scotland.
It is. It's just outside Kilmarnock. I have a picture of me aged 7 standing next to the road sign.
So you're saying Hyufd's wrong and Scotland would keep Moscow, Europe's largest city, in the event of independence?
Moscow is not Europe's wealthiest city by gdp, London is
But it is the largest.
It isn't by population or area, Istanbul is
How much of Istanbul is in Europe?
It is considered a European city even if it straddles Europe and Asia.
It was of course originally Constantinople, at one time capital of the Roman Empire
Lol, Yoons so desperate that they're reduced to bigging up Scotland. I wonder who is the 'we' that Murdo keeps referring to who will be losing all that good shit?
“We lose … roughly 1/3 of the land mass of Great Britain, probably about half of our territorial waters, we lose the magnificent resource that is Scottish fishing waters, we lose the opportunities from North sea oil and gas (still there despite Nicola Sturgeon’s best efforts), we lose the potential for renewable energy from Scotland’s coasts in the North Sea and the Atlantic, we lose access to barrier-free trade for scotch whisky and scotch salmon, all these fantastic exports, and the opportunity to study at some of the world’s greatest universities … and the joy of having Scots as part of the great British nation … why would you want to throw all that away?”
And Scots lose the biggest and wealthiest city in Europe, the largest financial centre in Europe, the 2 best universities in Europe and membership of the G7, G20 and permanent membership of the UN Security Council
Moscow's not in the UK.
As for the unis, I reckon Hull would be interested in an offer from Scotland.
It is. It's just outside Kilmarnock. I have a picture of me aged 7 standing next to the road sign.
So you're saying Hyufd's wrong and Scotland would keep Moscow, Europe's largest city, in the event of independence?
Moscow is not Europe's wealthiest city by gdp, London is
But it is the largest.
It isn't by population or area, Istanbul is
How much of Istanbul is in Europe?
It is considered a European city even if it straddles Europe and Asia.
It was of course originally Constantinople
It was originally Byzantium, and renamed Constantinople when it was refounded by Constantine the Great. Not sure whether that was before or when he moved his capital to it (which was in 330).
To answer my own question since you don't seem to want to, it's two thirds. So although it is the largest city to have some part of its mass in Europe, that part which is in Europe falls nearly half-way between Moscow and London in size.
Although actually, you have at least conceded London is not the largest city and therefore your original comment was wrong in that regard.
Wow! This is horrific. How the British Empire treated the men who died in support of the regime:
The long-held explanation is grisly: according to reports made soon after the conflict, the bones were collected, pulverised and turned into fertiliser for agricultural use.
“It is certainly a singular fact that Great Britain should have sent out multitudes of soldiers to fight the battles of this country upon the continent of Europe, and should then import the bones as an article of commerce to fatten her soil!” the London Observer reported in November 1822.
What a ludicrous take, there were more Belgians and Dutch in Wellington's forces at Waterloo v Napoleon than non Europeans from the emerging British Empire.
Not to mention the Prussians joined the British too later in the battle
Huh? Who said anything about “non-Europeans”? You have a very odd interpretation of the term British Empire excluding the Irish, Welsh, Scots, Manx or English.
None of them were colonies of the Empire no, they were all people of the United Kingdom in 1815
People of the territories according to Thatcher mini me.
Wow! This is horrific. How the British Empire treated the men who died in support of the regime:
The long-held explanation is grisly: according to reports made soon after the conflict, the bones were collected, pulverised and turned into fertiliser for agricultural use.
“It is certainly a singular fact that Great Britain should have sent out multitudes of soldiers to fight the battles of this country upon the continent of Europe, and should then import the bones as an article of commerce to fatten her soil!” the London Observer reported in November 1822.
What a ludicrous take, there were more Belgians and Dutch in Wellington's forces at Waterloo v Napoleon than non Europeans from the emerging British Empire.
Not to mention the Prussians joined the British too later in the battle
Huh? Who said anything about “non-Europeans”? You have a very odd interpretation of the term British Empire excluding the Irish, Welsh, Scots, Manx or English.
None of them were colonies of the Empire no, they were all people of the United Kingdom in 1815
People of the territories according to Thatcher mini me.
Lol, Yoons so desperate that they're reduced to bigging up Scotland. I wonder who is the 'we' that Murdo keeps referring to who will be losing all that good shit?
“We lose … roughly 1/3 of the land mass of Great Britain, probably about half of our territorial waters, we lose the magnificent resource that is Scottish fishing waters, we lose the opportunities from North sea oil and gas (still there despite Nicola Sturgeon’s best efforts), we lose the potential for renewable energy from Scotland’s coasts in the North Sea and the Atlantic, we lose access to barrier-free trade for scotch whisky and scotch salmon, all these fantastic exports, and the opportunity to study at some of the world’s greatest universities … and the joy of having Scots as part of the great British nation … why would you want to throw all that away?”
And Scots lose the biggest and wealthiest city in Europe, the largest financial centre in Europe, the 2 best universities in Europe and membership of the G7, G20 and permanent membership of the UN Security Council
Moscow's not in the UK.
As for the unis, I reckon Hull would be interested in an offer from Scotland.
It is. It's just outside Kilmarnock. I have a picture of me aged 7 standing next to the road sign.
So you're saying Hyufd's wrong and Scotland would keep Moscow, Europe's largest city, in the event of independence?
Moscow is not Europe's wealthiest city by gdp, London is
But it is the largest.
It isn't by population or area, Istanbul is
How much of Istanbul is in Europe?
It is considered a European city even if it straddles Europe and Asia.
It was of course originally Constantinople, at one time capital of the Roman Empire
That would’ve been news to the citizens of Lygos, Byzantium, Augusta Antonina and Alma Roma.
Lol, Yoons so desperate that they're reduced to bigging up Scotland. I wonder who is the 'we' that Murdo keeps referring to who will be losing all that good shit?
“We lose … roughly 1/3 of the land mass of Great Britain, probably about half of our territorial waters, we lose the magnificent resource that is Scottish fishing waters, we lose the opportunities from North sea oil and gas (still there despite Nicola Sturgeon’s best efforts), we lose the potential for renewable energy from Scotland’s coasts in the North Sea and the Atlantic, we lose access to barrier-free trade for scotch whisky and scotch salmon, all these fantastic exports, and the opportunity to study at some of the world’s greatest universities … and the joy of having Scots as part of the great British nation … why would you want to throw all that away?”
And Scots lose the biggest and wealthiest city in Europe, the largest financial centre in Europe, the 2 best universities in Europe and membership of the G7, G20 and permanent membership of the UN Security Council
Moscow's not in the UK.
As for the unis, I reckon Hull would be interested in an offer from Scotland.
It is. It's just outside Kilmarnock. I have a picture of me aged 7 standing next to the road sign.
So you're saying Hyufd's wrong and Scotland would keep Moscow, Europe's largest city, in the event of independence?
Moscow is not Europe's wealthiest city by gdp, London is.
It is not even Europe's largest city by population, Istanbul is
"Here was I, diggin' this hole, a hole in the ground, so deep and very round...".
Brilliant. I think this should be the standard reply when hyufd does his jet powered goal posts.
@hyufd why oh why are you so incapable of just saying I didn't mean the largest? Your argument was still valid. Why is that so hard for you to do? I do it all the time.
Relatedly, I just read the interesting lunch-with-the-FT interview with Hillary Clinton
She says, and I paraphrase: “All that matters is beating Trump, the election is the only issue, he has to lose” - and one can empathise with her urgency
But she comes close to saying ANYTHING is justified as long as it helps to defeat Trump. Anything? Like, lying about the probable origins of a global catastrophe for a year? Or getting the FBI to smear Trump? Or worse?
This is the TGV to Civil War. Once you believe your opponent is so evil you can justify doing anything to stop him, then he and his supporters will feel the same about stopping you. That cannot end well
Trump and his supporters are responsible for Trump, not Clinton, not scientists, the left or anyone else. He crossed the line. He undermined democracy. His supporters attacked the Capitol.
It is not unreasonable to want to defeat him.
it is extremely desirable to beat Trump. He is a menace to the world, especially the West
The trickier question is: how much his horribleness justifies illegal or immoral behaviour in his opponents
You should be more worried about what he and his supporters will do.
I am worried about both. As Hillary herself says in that FT interview, both sides have gone mad at the extremes: the Woke Left and the Trumpite right. They are only 10-20% of each side but they are highly vocal, super motivated and they are driving America to civil conflict
Worth repeating the point that people on here are always more sympathetic to the left. They don't see the dangers of the "woke" left. The best stance is to be critical of both extremes. You may still have to vote for one of the two options, but this is the type of "least worst" decision forced on you by democracy. In the UK, it is possible to detest Boris Johnson but still vote Conservative, because you see a greater danger in the 'progressive' alternatives.
Some award due for getting so much wrong in one short post, Congratulations. Most importantly, if you detest someone and see dangers in voting for them, Don’t vote for them.
QED. You don’t see the dangers of the Woke Left because you don’t even recognise there is a problem
This is multiplied a hundred times over in the American Left, which means they will continue goading and provoking the Right, and which means the Right will return fire, and then some
Which leads to the polling we saw yesterday, with Trump - Trump! - leading Biden as the preferred president
Both sides have to lay down their arms; neither will, because both firmly believe their cause is righteous
Extreme woke as perversion of some sentiment long forgotten that as an ideology is close to McCarthyism....
Perhaps @Leon's right after all - there is such a thing as a Cancel Culture, judging by that Propublica article.
Cancel culture, very definitely, exists. And it is vile
“Clanchy isn’t sure if she has actually been cancelled. “My books have been depublished, which is very unusual. I have lost my living. Everyone I know has suffered, all of my personal relationships have suffered. So I’ve suffered and I’m shamed and I’m unhappy a lot of the time – I don’t know if that’s cancelled enough? I’m not dead.” She has been called a white supremacist, accused of “Nazi-adjacent thinking”, and says that some “quite respectable people” mocked her bereavement online.”
Wow! This is horrific. How the British Empire treated the men who died in support of the regime:
The long-held explanation is grisly: according to reports made soon after the conflict, the bones were collected, pulverised and turned into fertiliser for agricultural use.
“It is certainly a singular fact that Great Britain should have sent out multitudes of soldiers to fight the battles of this country upon the continent of Europe, and should then import the bones as an article of commerce to fatten her soil!” the London Observer reported in November 1822.
What a ludicrous take, there were more Belgians and Dutch in Wellington's forces at Waterloo v Napoleon than non Europeans from the emerging British Empire.
Not to mention the Prussians joined the British too later in the battle
Huh? Who said anything about “non-Europeans”? You have a very odd interpretation of the term British Empire excluding the Irish, Welsh, Scots, Manx or English.
None of them were colonies of the Empire no, they were all people of the United Kingdom in 1815
People of the territories according to Thatcher mini me.
Wow! This is horrific. How the British Empire treated the men who died in support of the regime:
The long-held explanation is grisly: according to reports made soon after the conflict, the bones were collected, pulverised and turned into fertiliser for agricultural use.
“It is certainly a singular fact that Great Britain should have sent out multitudes of soldiers to fight the battles of this country upon the continent of Europe, and should then import the bones as an article of commerce to fatten her soil!” the London Observer reported in November 1822.
What a ludicrous take, there were more Belgians and Dutch in Wellington's forces at Waterloo v Napoleon than non Europeans from the emerging British Empire.
Not to mention the Prussians joined the British too later in the battle
Huh? Who said anything about “non-Europeans”? You have a very odd interpretation of the term British Empire excluding the Irish, Welsh, Scots, Manx or English.
None of them were colonies of the Empire no, they were all people of the United Kingdom in 1815
People of the territories according to Thatcher mini me.
Lol, Yoons so desperate that they're reduced to bigging up Scotland. I wonder who is the 'we' that Murdo keeps referring to who will be losing all that good shit?
“We lose … roughly 1/3 of the land mass of Great Britain, probably about half of our territorial waters, we lose the magnificent resource that is Scottish fishing waters, we lose the opportunities from North sea oil and gas (still there despite Nicola Sturgeon’s best efforts), we lose the potential for renewable energy from Scotland’s coasts in the North Sea and the Atlantic, we lose access to barrier-free trade for scotch whisky and scotch salmon, all these fantastic exports, and the opportunity to study at some of the world’s greatest universities … and the joy of having Scots as part of the great British nation … why would you want to throw all that away?”
And Scots lose the biggest and wealthiest city in Europe, the largest financial centre in Europe, the 2 best universities in Europe and membership of the G7, G20 and permanent membership of the UN Security Council
Moscow's not in the UK.
As for the unis, I reckon Hull would be interested in an offer from Scotland.
It is. It's just outside Kilmarnock. I have a picture of me aged 7 standing next to the road sign.
So you're saying Hyufd's wrong and Scotland would keep Moscow, Europe's largest city, in the event of independence?
Moscow is not Europe's wealthiest city by gdp, London is
But it is the largest.
It isn't by population or area, Istanbul is
How much of Istanbul is in Europe?
It is considered a European city even if it straddles Europe and Asia.
It was of course originally Constantinople, at one time capital of the Roman Empire
That would’ve been news to the citizens of Lygos, Byzantium, Augusta Antonina and Alma Roma.
Constantine 1st still declared it to be the new capital of the Roman empire
Lol, Yoons so desperate that they're reduced to bigging up Scotland. I wonder who is the 'we' that Murdo keeps referring to who will be losing all that good shit?
“We lose … roughly 1/3 of the land mass of Great Britain, probably about half of our territorial waters, we lose the magnificent resource that is Scottish fishing waters, we lose the opportunities from North sea oil and gas (still there despite Nicola Sturgeon’s best efforts), we lose the potential for renewable energy from Scotland’s coasts in the North Sea and the Atlantic, we lose access to barrier-free trade for scotch whisky and scotch salmon, all these fantastic exports, and the opportunity to study at some of the world’s greatest universities … and the joy of having Scots as part of the great British nation … why would you want to throw all that away?”
And Scots lose the biggest and wealthiest city in Europe, the largest financial centre in Europe, the 2 best universities in Europe and membership of the G7, G20 and permanent membership of the UN Security Council
Moscow's not in the UK.
As for the unis, I reckon Hull would be interested in an offer from Scotland.
It is. It's just outside Kilmarnock. I have a picture of me aged 7 standing next to the road sign.
So you're saying Hyufd's wrong and Scotland would keep Moscow, Europe's largest city, in the event of independence?
Moscow is not Europe's wealthiest city by gdp, London is
But it is the largest.
It isn't by population or area, Istanbul is
How much of Istanbul is in Europe?
It is considered a European city even if it straddles Europe and Asia.
It was of course originally Constantinople
It was originally Byzantium, and renamed Constantinople when it was refounded by Constantine the Great. Not sure whether that was before or when he moved his capital to it (which was in 330).
To answer my own question since you don't seem to want to, it's two thirds. So although it is the largest city to have some part of its mass in Europe, that part which is in Europe falls nearly half-way between Moscow and London in size.
Although actually, you have at least conceded London is not the largest city and therefore your original comment was wrong in that regard.
On that argument then you could exclude Russian and Turkish cities as both are part in Europe and part in Asia.
In which case just looking at countries solely in Europe, London is the largest city in Europe as well as the wealthiest by gdp
Lol, Yoons so desperate that they're reduced to bigging up Scotland. I wonder who is the 'we' that Murdo keeps referring to who will be losing all that good shit?
“We lose … roughly 1/3 of the land mass of Great Britain, probably about half of our territorial waters, we lose the magnificent resource that is Scottish fishing waters, we lose the opportunities from North sea oil and gas (still there despite Nicola Sturgeon’s best efforts), we lose the potential for renewable energy from Scotland’s coasts in the North Sea and the Atlantic, we lose access to barrier-free trade for scotch whisky and scotch salmon, all these fantastic exports, and the opportunity to study at some of the world’s greatest universities … and the joy of having Scots as part of the great British nation … why would you want to throw all that away?”
And Scots lose the biggest and wealthiest city in Europe, the largest financial centre in Europe, the 2 best universities in Europe and membership of the G7, G20 and permanent membership of the UN Security Council
Moscow's not in the UK.
As for the unis, I reckon Hull would be interested in an offer from Scotland.
It is. It's just outside Kilmarnock. I have a picture of me aged 7 standing next to the road sign.
So you're saying Hyufd's wrong and Scotland would keep Moscow, Europe's largest city, in the event of independence?
Moscow is not Europe's wealthiest city by gdp, London is
But it is the largest.
It isn't by population or area, Istanbul is
How much of Istanbul is in Europe?
It is considered a European city even if it straddles Europe and Asia.
It was of course originally Constantinople
It was originally Byzantium, and renamed Constantinople when it was refounded by Constantine the Great. Not sure whether that was before or when he moved his capital to it (which was in 330).
To answer my own question since you don't seem to want to, it's two thirds. So although it is the largest city to have some part of its mass in Europe, that part which is in Europe falls nearly half-way between Moscow and London in size.
Although actually, you have at least conceded London is not the largest city and therefore your original comment was wrong in that regard.
On that argument then you could exclude Russian and Turkish cities as both are part in Europe and part in Asia.
In which case just looking at countries solely in Europe, London is the largest city in Europe as well as the wealthiest by gdp
I do wonder whether you will be fighting tooth and claw for your offspring to attend a Russell Group University, or alternatively will you be signing them up for an apprenticeship with Tata Steel?
I suspect I know the answer.
Depends how bright they are. If they are an A* or A grade student I would certainly suggest they aim for a Russell Group university and to become a doctor or lawyer etc.
If not I would suggest they aim for an apprenticeship
Really. You would recommend all A/A* student to become lawyers or doctors. No other profession? Never crossed my mind, never crossed my son's mind, never crossed the mind of most A/A* students. Do we have too many mathematicians, physicists, chemists, economists, engineers, etc, etc.
Lol, Yoons so desperate that they're reduced to bigging up Scotland. I wonder who is the 'we' that Murdo keeps referring to who will be losing all that good shit?
“We lose … roughly 1/3 of the land mass of Great Britain, probably about half of our territorial waters, we lose the magnificent resource that is Scottish fishing waters, we lose the opportunities from North sea oil and gas (still there despite Nicola Sturgeon’s best efforts), we lose the potential for renewable energy from Scotland’s coasts in the North Sea and the Atlantic, we lose access to barrier-free trade for scotch whisky and scotch salmon, all these fantastic exports, and the opportunity to study at some of the world’s greatest universities … and the joy of having Scots as part of the great British nation … why would you want to throw all that away?”
And Scots lose the biggest and wealthiest city in Europe, the largest financial centre in Europe, the 2 best universities in Europe and membership of the G7, G20 and permanent membership of the UN Security Council
Moscow's not in the UK.
As for the unis, I reckon Hull would be interested in an offer from Scotland.
It is. It's just outside Kilmarnock. I have a picture of me aged 7 standing next to the road sign.
So you're saying Hyufd's wrong and Scotland would keep Moscow, Europe's largest city, in the event of independence?
Moscow is not Europe's wealthiest city by gdp, London is
But it is the largest.
It isn't by population or area, Istanbul is
How much of Istanbul is in Europe?
It is considered a European city even if it straddles Europe and Asia.
It was of course originally Constantinople, at one time capital of the Roman Empire
That would’ve been news to the citizens of Lygos, Byzantium, Augusta Antonina and Alma Roma.
Constantine 1st still declared it to be the new capital of the Roman empire
Not even willing to concede a minor, forgivable error. The king of pig-headedness, on an obscure blog of ace pig-heads.
So it turns out “a modest hike” in the Armenian Caucasus is just a tiny bit more challenging than the equivalent walk in the Malverns. Even though they look strikingly similar in places
Lol, Yoons so desperate that they're reduced to bigging up Scotland. I wonder who is the 'we' that Murdo keeps referring to who will be losing all that good shit?
“We lose … roughly 1/3 of the land mass of Great Britain, probably about half of our territorial waters, we lose the magnificent resource that is Scottish fishing waters, we lose the opportunities from North sea oil and gas (still there despite Nicola Sturgeon’s best efforts), we lose the potential for renewable energy from Scotland’s coasts in the North Sea and the Atlantic, we lose access to barrier-free trade for scotch whisky and scotch salmon, all these fantastic exports, and the opportunity to study at some of the world’s greatest universities … and the joy of having Scots as part of the great British nation … why would you want to throw all that away?”
And Scots lose the biggest and wealthiest city in Europe, the largest financial centre in Europe, the 2 best universities in Europe and membership of the G7, G20 and permanent membership of the UN Security Council
Moscow's not in the UK.
As for the unis, I reckon Hull would be interested in an offer from Scotland.
It is. It's just outside Kilmarnock. I have a picture of me aged 7 standing next to the road sign.
So you're saying Hyufd's wrong and Scotland would keep Moscow, Europe's largest city, in the event of independence?
Moscow is not Europe's wealthiest city by gdp, London is
But it is the largest.
It isn't by population or area, Istanbul is
How much of Istanbul is in Europe?
It is considered a European city even if it straddles Europe and Asia.
It was of course originally Constantinople
It was originally Byzantium, and renamed Constantinople when it was refounded by Constantine the Great. Not sure whether that was before or when he moved his capital to it (which was in 330).
To answer my own question since you don't seem to want to, it's two thirds. So although it is the largest city to have some part of its mass in Europe, that part which is in Europe falls nearly half-way between Moscow and London in size.
Although actually, you have at least conceded London is not the largest city and therefore your original comment was wrong in that regard.
On that argument then you could exclude Russian and Turkish cities as both are part in Europe and part in Asia.
In which case just looking at countries solely in Europe, London is the largest city in Europe as well as the wealthiest by gdp
No Hyufd, Istanbul is a special case as one-third of the city itself is on the east side of the Bosporus and the rest is on the west side. Moscow is entirely to the west of the Urals.
If he's forced to resign, that's a terrible blow to hopes for the future of the Union. The SNP are already pretty well all dominant in Scottish politics. Imagine if they had somebody in a position of leadership who didn't look like a sleazy nomark?
An expensive higher education should be the exclusive right of the upper classes (whoever they may be). Isn't that right HYUFD?
My view is, if three years reading for a non- vocational university degree is good enough for Boris Johnson, it is not too good for my children.
4 years
I read for just three years at what is now a Russell Group University. Does that make me Mr Johnson's inferior?
3 for me, Imperial, where I was a disgrace. Uni for me was just about leaving home and going down to London. Skipped all lectures and tutorials, did little but mess around, didn't even try to get a proper job afterwards. My immaturity and recklessness astounds me when I contemplate it now (which I try not to).
I do wonder whether you will be fighting tooth and claw for your offspring to attend a Russell Group University, or alternatively will you be signing them up for an apprenticeship with Tata Steel?
I suspect I know the answer.
Depends how bright they are. If they are an A* or A grade student I would certainly suggest they aim for a Russell Group university and to become a doctor or lawyer etc.
If not I would suggest they aim for an apprenticeship
Really. You would recommend all A/A* student to become lawyers or doctors. No other profession? Never crossed my mind, never crossed my son's mind, never crossed the mind of most A/A* students. Do we have too many mathematicians, physicists, chemists, economists, engineers, etc, etc.
Doctor or lawyer etc
FUDHY illustrates the Tory mindset that is crushing England: Fuck business, Fuck science, Fuck innovation, Fuck productivity, Fuck workers, Fuck enterprise.
With the Tories screwing ethics and propriety in public life and the economy it’ll soon be only lawyers and doctors in gainful employment.
Lol, Yoons so desperate that they're reduced to bigging up Scotland. I wonder who is the 'we' that Murdo keeps referring to who will be losing all that good shit?
“We lose … roughly 1/3 of the land mass of Great Britain, probably about half of our territorial waters, we lose the magnificent resource that is Scottish fishing waters, we lose the opportunities from North sea oil and gas (still there despite Nicola Sturgeon’s best efforts), we lose the potential for renewable energy from Scotland’s coasts in the North Sea and the Atlantic, we lose access to barrier-free trade for scotch whisky and scotch salmon, all these fantastic exports, and the opportunity to study at some of the world’s greatest universities … and the joy of having Scots as part of the great British nation … why would you want to throw all that away?”
And Scots lose the biggest and wealthiest city in Europe, the largest financial centre in Europe, the 2 best universities in Europe and membership of the G7, G20 and permanent membership of the UN Security Council
Moscow's not in the UK.
As for the unis, I reckon Hull would be interested in an offer from Scotland.
It is. It's just outside Kilmarnock. I have a picture of me aged 7 standing next to the road sign.
So you're saying Hyufd's wrong and Scotland would keep Moscow, Europe's largest city, in the event of independence?
Moscow is not Europe's wealthiest city by gdp, London is
But it is the largest.
It isn't by population or area, Istanbul is
How much of Istanbul is in Europe?
It is considered a European city even if it straddles Europe and Asia.
It was of course originally Constantinople, at one time capital of the Roman Empire
That would’ve been news to the citizens of Lygos, Byzantium, Augusta Antonina and Alma Roma.
Constantine 1st still declared it to be the new capital of the Roman empire
Not even willing to concede a minor, forgivable error. The king of pig-headedness, on an obscure blog of ace pig-heads.
But he’s absolutely right
Istanbul is regarded as a European city, not least because it was originally a European village - Byzantion - on the European side of the waters and all its key Roman buildings were in Europe and even now its greatest monuments and its business heart and its Ottoman districts and its emotional core, is all in Europe, from Hagia Sofia to the Blue Mosque to the Topkapi Palace and its preserved footprints of the Prophet
I do wonder whether you will be fighting tooth and claw for your offspring to attend a Russell Group University, or alternatively will you be signing them up for an apprenticeship with Tata Steel?
I suspect I know the answer.
Depends how bright they are. If they are an A* or A grade student I would certainly suggest they aim for a Russell Group university and to become a doctor or lawyer etc.
If not I would suggest they aim for an apprenticeship
Really. You would recommend all A/A* student to become lawyers or doctors. No other profession? Never crossed my mind, never crossed my son's mind, never crossed the mind of most A/A* students. Do we have too many mathematicians, physicists, chemists, economists, engineers, etc, etc.
I said lawyers, doctors etc. Not lawyers and doctors alone.
So that does not exclude the other professions you named which would be suitable for A*, A students
Lol, Yoons so desperate that they're reduced to bigging up Scotland. I wonder who is the 'we' that Murdo keeps referring to who will be losing all that good shit?
“We lose … roughly 1/3 of the land mass of Great Britain, probably about half of our territorial waters, we lose the magnificent resource that is Scottish fishing waters, we lose the opportunities from North sea oil and gas (still there despite Nicola Sturgeon’s best efforts), we lose the potential for renewable energy from Scotland’s coasts in the North Sea and the Atlantic, we lose access to barrier-free trade for scotch whisky and scotch salmon, all these fantastic exports, and the opportunity to study at some of the world’s greatest universities … and the joy of having Scots as part of the great British nation … why would you want to throw all that away?”
And Scots lose the biggest and wealthiest city in Europe, the largest financial centre in Europe, the 2 best universities in Europe and membership of the G7, G20 and permanent membership of the UN Security Council
Moscow's not in the UK.
As for the unis, I reckon Hull would be interested in an offer from Scotland.
It is. It's just outside Kilmarnock. I have a picture of me aged 7 standing next to the road sign.
So you're saying Hyufd's wrong and Scotland would keep Moscow, Europe's largest city, in the event of independence?
Moscow is not Europe's wealthiest city by gdp, London is
But it is the largest.
It isn't by population or area, Istanbul is
How much of Istanbul is in Europe?
It is considered a European city even if it straddles Europe and Asia.
It was of course originally Constantinople, at one time capital of the Roman Empire
That would’ve been news to the citizens of Lygos, Byzantium, Augusta Antonina and Alma Roma.
Constantine 1st still declared it to be the new capital of the Roman empire
Not even willing to concede a minor, forgivable error. The king of pig-headedness, on an obscure blog of ace pig-heads.
But he’s absolutely right
Istanbul is regarded as a European city, not least because it was originally a European village - Byzantion - on the European side of the waters and all its key Roman buildings were in Europe and even now its greatest monuments and its business heart and its Ottoman districts and its emotional core, is all in Europe, from Hagia Sofia to the Blue Mosque to the Topkapi Palace and its preserved footprints of the Prophet
So, yes, Europe
Except what he said was that London 'is Europe's largest and wealthiest city.'
The second part is right. The first part was not. In fact, whether you include all of Istanbul or not, it's only the third largest city in Europe.
What a magnificent piece of twaddle. Children vary. Some are delighted to spend 4 years studying Akkadian philology with a year abroad learning Sumerian, others prefer hairdressing apprenticeships. Fortunately most of them listen politely to their parents and do exactly as they please. Leave them alone.
Lol, Yoons so desperate that they're reduced to bigging up Scotland. I wonder who is the 'we' that Murdo keeps referring to who will be losing all that good shit?
“We lose … roughly 1/3 of the land mass of Great Britain, probably about half of our territorial waters, we lose the magnificent resource that is Scottish fishing waters, we lose the opportunities from North sea oil and gas (still there despite Nicola Sturgeon’s best efforts), we lose the potential for renewable energy from Scotland’s coasts in the North Sea and the Atlantic, we lose access to barrier-free trade for scotch whisky and scotch salmon, all these fantastic exports, and the opportunity to study at some of the world’s greatest universities … and the joy of having Scots as part of the great British nation … why would you want to throw all that away?”
And Scots lose the biggest and wealthiest city in Europe, the largest financial centre in Europe, the 2 best universities in Europe and membership of the G7, G20 and permanent membership of the UN Security Council
Moscow's not in the UK.
As for the unis, I reckon Hull would be interested in an offer from Scotland.
It is. It's just outside Kilmarnock. I have a picture of me aged 7 standing next to the road sign.
Lol, Yoons so desperate that they're reduced to bigging up Scotland. I wonder who is the 'we' that Murdo keeps referring to who will be losing all that good shit?
“We lose … roughly 1/3 of the land mass of Great Britain, probably about half of our territorial waters, we lose the magnificent resource that is Scottish fishing waters, we lose the opportunities from North sea oil and gas (still there despite Nicola Sturgeon’s best efforts), we lose the potential for renewable energy from Scotland’s coasts in the North Sea and the Atlantic, we lose access to barrier-free trade for scotch whisky and scotch salmon, all these fantastic exports, and the opportunity to study at some of the world’s greatest universities … and the joy of having Scots as part of the great British nation … why would you want to throw all that away?”
And Scots lose the biggest and wealthiest city in Europe, the largest financial centre in Europe, the 2 best universities in Europe and membership of the G7, G20 and permanent membership of the UN Security Council
Moscow's not in the UK.
As for the unis, I reckon Hull would be interested in an offer from Scotland.
It is. It's just outside Kilmarnock. I have a picture of me aged 7 standing next to the road sign.
So you're saying Hyufd's wrong and Scotland would keep Moscow, Europe's largest city, in the event of independence?
Moscow is not Europe's wealthiest city by gdp, London is
But it is the largest.
It isn't by population or area, Istanbul is
How much of Istanbul is in Europe?
It is considered a European city even if it straddles Europe and Asia.
It was of course originally Constantinople, at one time capital of the Roman Empire
That would’ve been news to the citizens of Lygos, Byzantium, Augusta Antonina and Alma Roma.
Constantine 1st still declared it to be the new capital of the Roman empire
Not even willing to concede a minor, forgivable error. The king of pig-headedness, on an obscure blog of ace pig-heads.
But he’s absolutely right
Istanbul is regarded as a European city, not least because it was originally a European village - Byzantion - on the European side of the waters and all its key Roman buildings were in Europe and even now its greatest monuments and its business heart and its Ottoman districts and its emotional core, is all in Europe, from Hagia Sofia to the Blue Mosque to the Topkapi Palace and its preserved footprints of the Prophet
So, yes, Europe
Beautifully obscuring the fact that I wasn’t responding to that bit, but rather to his statement “It was of course originally Constantinople”.
Relatedly, I just read the interesting lunch-with-the-FT interview with Hillary Clinton
She says, and I paraphrase: “All that matters is beating Trump, the election is the only issue, he has to lose” - and one can empathise with her urgency
But she comes close to saying ANYTHING is justified as long as it helps to defeat Trump. Anything? Like, lying about the probable origins of a global catastrophe for a year? Or getting the FBI to smear Trump? Or worse?
This is the TGV to Civil War. Once you believe your opponent is so evil you can justify doing anything to stop him, then he and his supporters will feel the same about stopping you. That cannot end well
Trump and his supporters are responsible for Trump, not Clinton, not scientists, the left or anyone else. He crossed the line. He undermined democracy. His supporters attacked the Capitol.
It is not unreasonable to want to defeat him.
it is extremely desirable to beat Trump. He is a menace to the world, especially the West
The trickier question is: how much his horribleness justifies illegal or immoral behaviour in his opponents
You should be more worried about what he and his supporters will do.
I am worried about both. As Hillary herself says in that FT interview, both sides have gone mad at the extremes: the Woke Left and the Trumpite right. They are only 10-20% of each side but they are highly vocal, super motivated and they are driving America to civil conflict
Worth repeating the point that people on here are always more sympathetic to the left. They don't see the dangers of the "woke" left. The best stance is to be critical of both extremes. You may still have to vote for one of the two options, but this is the type of "least worst" decision forced on you by democracy. In the UK, it is possible to detest Boris Johnson but still vote Conservative, because you see a greater danger in the 'progressive' alternatives.
Some award due for getting so much wrong in one short post, Congratulations. Most importantly, if you detest someone and see dangers in voting for them, Don’t vote for them.
QED. You don’t see the dangers of the Woke Left because you don’t even recognise there is a problem
This is multiplied a hundred times over in the American Left, which means they will continue goading and provoking the Right, and which means the Right will return fire, and then some
Which leads to the polling we saw yesterday, with Trump - Trump! - leading Biden as the preferred president
Both sides have to lay down their arms; neither will, because both firmly believe their cause is righteous
Extreme woke as perversion of some sentiment long forgotten that as an ideology is close to McCarthyism....
Perhaps @Leon's right after all - there is such a thing as a Cancel Culture, judging by that Propublica article.
Cancel culture, very definitely, exists. And it is vile
“Clanchy isn’t sure if she has actually been cancelled. “My books have been depublished, which is very unusual. I have lost my living. Everyone I know has suffered, all of my personal relationships have suffered. So I’ve suffered and I’m shamed and I’m unhappy a lot of the time – I don’t know if that’s cancelled enough? I’m not dead.” She has been called a white supremacist, accused of “Nazi-adjacent thinking”, and says that some “quite respectable people” mocked her bereavement online.”
Lol, Yoons so desperate that they're reduced to bigging up Scotland. I wonder who is the 'we' that Murdo keeps referring to who will be losing all that good shit?
“We lose … roughly 1/3 of the land mass of Great Britain, probably about half of our territorial waters, we lose the magnificent resource that is Scottish fishing waters, we lose the opportunities from North sea oil and gas (still there despite Nicola Sturgeon’s best efforts), we lose the potential for renewable energy from Scotland’s coasts in the North Sea and the Atlantic, we lose access to barrier-free trade for scotch whisky and scotch salmon, all these fantastic exports, and the opportunity to study at some of the world’s greatest universities … and the joy of having Scots as part of the great British nation … why would you want to throw all that away?”
And Scots lose the biggest and wealthiest city in Europe, the largest financial centre in Europe, the 2 best universities in Europe and membership of the G7, G20 and permanent membership of the UN Security Council
Moscow's not in the UK.
As for the unis, I reckon Hull would be interested in an offer from Scotland.
It is. It's just outside Kilmarnock. I have a picture of me aged 7 standing next to the road sign.
So you're saying Hyufd's wrong and Scotland would keep Moscow, Europe's largest city, in the event of independence?
Moscow is not Europe's wealthiest city by gdp, London is
But it is the largest.
It isn't by population or area, Istanbul is
How much of Istanbul is in Europe?
It is considered a European city even if it straddles Europe and Asia.
It was of course originally Constantinople
It was originally Byzantium, and renamed Constantinople when it was refounded by Constantine the Great. Not sure whether that was before or when he moved his capital to it (which was in 330).
To answer my own question since you don't seem to want to, it's two thirds. So although it is the largest city to have some part of its mass in Europe, that part which is in Europe falls nearly half-way between Moscow and London in size.
Although actually, you have at least conceded London is not the largest city and therefore your original comment was wrong in that regard.
On that argument then you could exclude Russian and Turkish cities as both are part in Europe and part in Asia.
In which case just looking at countries solely in Europe, London is the largest city in Europe as well as the wealthiest by gdp
No Hyufd, Istanbul is a special case as one-third of the city itself is on the east side of the Bosporus and the rest is on the west side. Moscow is entirely to the west of the Urals.
But Europe as a continent makes no sense when you reach its eastern edge. Which just happens to be where I am right now, Sipping could red Areni wine and staring at the Armenian Caucasus
Geographers might argue I am still in Europe, but why? What makes the Caucasus special? Or indeed the Urals? Why not make the desert the barrier, or the steppes, why mountains?
Europe is a fiction as a continent, but it IS a civilisation and a culture. But even then it blurs. Some days I think Armenia is Asian, other days it feels very European. Likewise the people
Moscow feels more Asian to me than Istanbul. Especially at the moment
ISW @TheStudyofWar · 1h - Unconfirmed Ukrainian sources report that the Kremlin fired the Commander of the Russian Airborne Forces, Colonel-General Andrey Serdyukov, due to mass casualties among Russian paratroopers.
What a magnificent piece of twaddle. Children vary. Some are delighted to spend 4 years studying Akkadian philology with a year abroad learning Sumerian, others prefer hairdressing apprenticeships. Fortunately most of them listen politely to their parents and do exactly as they please. Leave them alone.
Lol, Yoons so desperate that they're reduced to bigging up Scotland. I wonder who is the 'we' that Murdo keeps referring to who will be losing all that good shit?
“We lose … roughly 1/3 of the land mass of Great Britain, probably about half of our territorial waters, we lose the magnificent resource that is Scottish fishing waters, we lose the opportunities from North sea oil and gas (still there despite Nicola Sturgeon’s best efforts), we lose the potential for renewable energy from Scotland’s coasts in the North Sea and the Atlantic, we lose access to barrier-free trade for scotch whisky and scotch salmon, all these fantastic exports, and the opportunity to study at some of the world’s greatest universities … and the joy of having Scots as part of the great British nation … why would you want to throw all that away?”
And Scots lose the biggest and wealthiest city in Europe, the largest financial centre in Europe, the 2 best universities in Europe and membership of the G7, G20 and permanent membership of the UN Security Council
Moscow's not in the UK.
As for the unis, I reckon Hull would be interested in an offer from Scotland.
It is. It's just outside Kilmarnock. I have a picture of me aged 7 standing next to the road sign.
What a magnificent piece of twaddle. Children vary. Some are delighted to spend 4 years studying Akkadian philology with a year abroad learning Sumerian, others prefer hairdressing apprenticeships. Fortunately most of them listen politely to their parents and do exactly as they please. Leave them alone.
Lol, Yoons so desperate that they're reduced to bigging up Scotland. I wonder who is the 'we' that Murdo keeps referring to who will be losing all that good shit?
“We lose … roughly 1/3 of the land mass of Great Britain, probably about half of our territorial waters, we lose the magnificent resource that is Scottish fishing waters, we lose the opportunities from North sea oil and gas (still there despite Nicola Sturgeon’s best efforts), we lose the potential for renewable energy from Scotland’s coasts in the North Sea and the Atlantic, we lose access to barrier-free trade for scotch whisky and scotch salmon, all these fantastic exports, and the opportunity to study at some of the world’s greatest universities … and the joy of having Scots as part of the great British nation … why would you want to throw all that away?”
And Scots lose the biggest and wealthiest city in Europe, the largest financial centre in Europe, the 2 best universities in Europe and membership of the G7, G20 and permanent membership of the UN Security Council
Moscow's not in the UK.
As for the unis, I reckon Hull would be interested in an offer from Scotland.
It is. It's just outside Kilmarnock. I have a picture of me aged 7 standing next to the road sign.
And Houston is in Renfrewshire.
Denver is in Norfolk.
And Hollywood is in North Ayrshire - they should sue that upstart Californian suburb!
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My view is, if three years reading for a non- vocational university degree is good enough for Boris Johnson, it is not too good for my children.
Dickhead Tories = good
Normal people = bad
That’s the Yookay in a nutshell.
https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/higher-apprenticeships-lead-greater-earnings-most-degrees
What else would you expect,?
Inflation is nature's way of telling us that we can't have as many nice things as we would like. We should talk about who is protected, how to minimise and distribute the pain, but the bottom line is Fewer Nice Things overall.
There are a few problems for the UK in 2022, though.
For a start, very many people have zero capacity to absorb financial pain. Largely because so much income and wealth goes to homeowners.
Next, we have a Prime Minister who is really bad at saying no to spending.
Finally, we are a country (and the ruling generation is super bad at this) who think that we're entitled to Nice Things on demand at less than cost, because we're British or something.
Prediction: this spells trouble for Britain and it's government, especially as 30 months before the General Election is not the time to embark on this sort of project. Thatcher, Blair, Cameron all got their painful bits out of the way early. Johnson's has barely begun.
Average starter graduate salary is £24,000 see https://www.savethestudent.org/student-jobs/whats-the-expected-salary-for-your-degree.html
https://www.tandfonline.com/journals/yjca20
Interesting issues of how reliable apparen t eyewitness artists can be, and whether or not they really did gather and process the bones for fertiliser (does seem to have happened on some battlefields).
I read your post with some interest. I know nothing about the ECHR but am against an unknown foreign Judge ruling against our Government policy before our own law courts have.
My background is I'm sure very different to yours - the vast majority of people that I know who voted Leave were mainly former Labour voters - I voted for Nick Palmer in 1997, 2001 and 2005 - had left Broxtowe by 2010.
However the attitude shown to Labour Leavers by Labour after 2016 was disgusting - being called a racist and a moron etc which still continues today.
All three of my granddaughters voted Leave.
The Tories are not particularly popular I think with Labour Leavers - see the popularity of The Ashfield Independents in my patch Hucknall but in a straight fight with Labour will still vote for Boris.
The strange thing is I most probably agree 90% with CHB and his policies except of course on Brexit - do I regret voting Leave? No always thought it would take us a long time to get the benefits assuming there are any.
Are there any Labour activists who voted Leave on PB?
House control: 85% Republican
Senate control: 77% Republican
https://smarkets.com/listing/politics/us/2022-house-and-senate-elections
https://civilservice.blog.gov.uk/2015/08/14/the-role-of-a-territorial-office/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_Senate_elections
'Followed by the pre-preparatory section of Ashdown House School, East Sussex, then on to Millbrook House School, near Abingdon, in Oxfordshire, and finally to Bedales School, where he developed a passion for arts and crafts. From 1980 to 1982 he studied at Parnham House in the small town of Beaminster in Dorset, for craftsmen in wood.'
I love tone deaf Tory dimwits unwittingly revealing the actualité of the Union, long may it continue.
I suspect I know the answer.
The Trident Sales Agreement = Bought and Sold for American Gold
If not I would suggest they aim for an apprenticeship
It is not even Europe's largest city by population, Istanbul is
I just added a quirk of geographical place names into the mix for light relief.
https://www.peakfinder.org
The map viewing tool is very addictive…
It's their life not mine.
Tell me I was wrong when the time comes, although you will likely require a ouija board to find me.
It was of course originally Constantinople, at one time capital of the Roman Empire
To answer my own question since you don't seem to want to, it's two thirds. So although it is the largest city to have some part of its mass in Europe, that part which is in Europe falls nearly half-way between Moscow and London in size.
Although actually, you have at least conceded London is not the largest city and therefore your original comment was wrong in that regard.
@hyufd why oh why are you so incapable of just saying I didn't mean
the largest? Your argument was still valid. Why is that so hard for you to do? I do it all the time.
“Clanchy isn’t sure if she has actually been cancelled. “My books have been depublished, which is very unusual. I have lost my living. Everyone I know has suffered, all of my personal relationships have suffered. So I’ve suffered and I’m shamed and I’m unhappy a lot of the time – I don’t know if that’s cancelled enough? I’m not dead.” She has been called a white supremacist, accused of “Nazi-adjacent thinking”, and says that some “quite respectable people” mocked her bereavement online.”
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/jun/18/the-book-that-tore-publishing-apart-harm-has-been-done-and-now-everyones-afraid?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Tom Gordon@HTScotPol·34m
Calls for SNP's Ian Blackford to step down over "absolute, full support" of shamed Patrick Grady
https://twitter.com/HTScotPol/status/1538158214998634496
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In which case just looking at countries solely in Europe, London is the largest city in Europe as well as the wealthiest by gdp
FUDHY illustrates the Tory mindset that is crushing England: Fuck business, Fuck science, Fuck innovation, Fuck productivity, Fuck workers, Fuck enterprise.
With the Tories screwing ethics and propriety in public life and the economy it’ll soon be only lawyers and doctors in gainful employment.
Istanbul is regarded as a European city, not least because it was originally a European village - Byzantion - on the European side of the waters and all its key Roman buildings were in Europe and even now its greatest monuments and its business heart and its Ottoman districts and its emotional core, is all in Europe, from Hagia Sofia to the Blue Mosque to the Topkapi Palace and its preserved footprints of the Prophet
So, yes, Europe
So that does not exclude the other professions you named which would be suitable for A*, A students
The second part is right. The first part was not. In fact, whether you include all of Istanbul or not, it's only the third largest city in Europe.
https://www.propublica.org/article/georgia-dei-crt-schools-parents
Geographers might argue I am still in Europe, but why? What makes the Caucasus special? Or indeed the Urals? Why not make the desert the barrier, or the steppes, why mountains?
Europe is a fiction as a continent, but it IS a civilisation and a culture. But even then it blurs. Some days I think Armenia is Asian, other days it feels very European. Likewise the people
Moscow feels more Asian to me than Istanbul. Especially at the moment
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