Meanwhile, ITV News has been showing pictures of the various child victims of the latest school massacre. Apparently, twelve American children are shot dead everyday. Gunshot wounds are the leading cause of death for children in the United States, having just overtaken car accidents.
So why was Boris (and Rishi) fined for that when Downing Street seemed to be having regular piss-ups ?
So the met, having allowed themselves to get involved in politics with the greased up pig/out of control shopping trolley, are now once more held up to ridicule. It’s almost impossible to understand why Sunak has been given a fpn for what he did, with what we now know.
Meanwhile, ITV News has been showing pictures of the various child victims of the latest school massacre. Apparently, twelve American children are shot dead everyday. Gunshot wounds are the leading cause of death for children in the United States, having just overtaken car accidents.
The owners must surely be getting a tad worried that they are now so out of whack with their beloved middle england readership thanks to Dacre love in with his old mate.
No way does this represent the views of middling folk.
They are fucking apoplectic about these parties whilst they missed funerals and weddings and grandkids birthdays.
The owners must surely be getting a tad worried that they are now so out of whack with their beloved middle england readership thanks to Dacre love in with his old mate.
No way does this represent the views of middling folk.
They are fucking apoplectic about these parties whilst they missed funerals and weddings and grandkids birthdays.
Most people made up their minds on this months ago, today's report changes little and I doubt the weekend polls show much change either
A consultant physician has been stuck off for wrongly prescribing sex-change treatments to seven transgender patients - one who was aged just nine and another a teenager who took their own life few months later.
Dr Michael Webberley, who spent 34 years working for the NHS, provided puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones via GenderGP, an online gender clinic which he ran with his GP wife Dr Helen Webberley.
A Medical Practitioners Tribunal Service (MPTS) panel found there had been a 'catalogue of failings' in relation to his care of the seven patients between February 2017 and June 2019.
Meanwhile, ITV News has been showing pictures of the various child victims of the latest school massacre. Apparently, twelve American children are shot dead everyday. Gunshot wounds are the leading cause of death for children in the United States, having just overtaken car accidents.
The owners must surely be getting a tad worried that they are now so out of whack with their beloved middle england readership thanks to Dacre love in with his old mate.
No way does this represent the views of middling folk.
They are fucking apoplectic about these parties whilst they missed funerals and weddings and grandkids birthdays.
Most people made up their minds on this months ago, today's report changes little and I doubt the weekend polls show much change either
Again you are just too complacent
The Lib Dem leaflet is devastating and conservative mps are heading for wipeout
I am utterly ashamed at the pathetic way Boris was grovelling today and trashing honesty and integrity
The owners must surely be getting a tad worried that they are now so out of whack with their beloved middle england readership thanks to Dacre love in with his old mate.
No way does this represent the views of middling folk.
They are fucking apoplectic about these parties whilst they missed funerals and weddings and grandkids birthdays.
Most people made up their minds on this months ago, today's report changes little and I doubt the weekend polls show much change either
Anyway, there's absolutely nothing more meaningless than mid-term opinion polls.
Except, of course, mid-term LibDem wins in by-elections.
The owners must surely be getting a tad worried that they are now so out of whack with their beloved middle england readership thanks to Dacre love in with his old mate.
No way does this represent the views of middling folk.
They are fucking apoplectic about these parties whilst they missed funerals and weddings and grandkids birthdays.
The mail is at express levels of Credibility now, I always thought it was better than that, how hollow does this spin look where next to it on news rack is vomit up the walls, security and cleaners abused (Boris admitted he doesnt know who by let alone if they were reprimanded) people waking up in office in what they put to go to work 24hrs before, wine Staines everywhere. It’s not about the 15min 26sec Boris spent there. But He knew what was going on. Everyone in the country knows what went on, and that BORIS knew what went on. Everyone at the Mail knows it too. Yet they keep up with the charade. This can only end bad for them from here, you cant just keep printing this stuff without losing your credibility when you need it.
Meanwhile, fair play to the Telegraph is spot on with Partygate phase 2 - the big cover up.
The owners must surely be getting a tad worried that they are now so out of whack with their beloved middle england readership thanks to Dacre love in with his old mate.
No way does this represent the views of middling folk.
They are fucking apoplectic about these parties whilst they missed funerals and weddings and grandkids birthdays.
The Brexit situation and the Corbyn fiasco allowed a lot of people with serious reservations about Johnson to vote Conservative in 2019 anyway - over and above the large fraction of the electorate (probably no less than the 31% they got in 1997; perhaps more than that, given that the average voter is now several years older,) who will vote Tory under absolutely any circumstances.
The question is, of course, whether all the 2019 Tory voters who profess to be enraged by his antics nevertheless find excuses to justify to themselves going out to vote Conservative again. I think that many of them will. The detoxification of the Labour brand is far from complete and, as I discussed in the previous thread, the Tories still have no shortage of cards to play.
The Government doesn't need to be loved to win another election. It just needs to be feared less than the Opposition by a sufficient number of those 2019 voters.
The owners must surely be getting a tad worried that they are now so out of whack with their beloved middle england readership thanks to Dacre love in with his old mate.
No way does this represent the views of middling folk.
They are fucking apoplectic about these parties whilst they missed funerals and weddings and grandkids birthdays.
Most people made up their minds on this months ago, today's report changes little and I doubt the weekend polls show much change either
I agree, but Dacre keeps defending the indefensible. Better off using front page to talk about something else.
Continuing the 20 places an MP should spend time in:
1) Ethnic suburb 2) Inner city tower block estate 3) Edge of conurbation giant council estate 4) Affluent commuter belt 5) Ancient cathedral city 6) Historic industrial town 7) Northern ex-urban motorway development 8) Isolated mining town 9) Arable farming district 10) Sectarian shithole 11) Old fishing port 12) Working class holiday town 13) Upland sheep farming district
“St Helens Abergavenny Matlock Spa Blackgang Chine Middlesbrough Portscatho Ashton-upon-Lyne Appledore Borth Isle of Ely Vatersay Pittenweem Grey Street Gosport Uttoxeter Coventry Chipping Camden Port Sunlight Old Radnor Preston Bus Station”
Your list is just as good as mine, and I haven’t been to at least half of yours
This is an oddly inspiring task. A reminder that the UK, despite being relatively small, contains a truly intense variation in landscape, cityscape, culture, history. Amazing. We are citizens of an amazing country
Thinking about the Mail front page, I think it is even more good news for Starmer.
Most people will glance at it and see a photo of Johnson on the piss. They will be reminded of his law breaking all over again. I doubt many will take in Dacre's message that there is nothing to see.
"Boris Johnson yesterday said he had been vindicated over partygate"
So what was all that stuff about bearing responsibility and feeling humbled by it he was also saying? Why would someone who had been vindicated feel any of that?
The owners must surely be getting a tad worried that they are now so out of whack with their beloved middle england readership thanks to Dacre love in with his old mate.
No way does this represent the views of middling folk.
They are fucking apoplectic about these parties whilst they missed funerals and weddings and grandkids birthdays.
Most people made up their minds on this months ago, today's report changes little and I doubt the weekend polls show much change either
Again you are just too complacent
The Lib Dem leaflet is devastating and conservative mps are heading for wipeout
I am utterly ashamed at the pathetic way Boris was grovelling today and trashing honesty and integrity
It was humiliation
Yes but you were utterly ashamed about Boris 6 months ago, yet still seem to switch back and forth between Tory and non Tory again depending on your mood that week
The owners must surely be getting a tad worried that they are now so out of whack with their beloved middle england readership thanks to Dacre love in with his old mate.
No way does this represent the views of middling folk.
They are fucking apoplectic about these parties whilst they missed funerals and weddings and grandkids birthdays.
Most people made up their minds on this months ago, today's report changes little and I doubt the weekend polls show much change either
This builds upon what people suspected. It wasn’t all old news, Johnson’s riffraff abusing the cleaners and security is new.
The early June polls were always going to be dire for the Tories, we were arguing on here late last night what caused the last big drop last autumn, the truth is it was a weight of things, fiscal, sleazy, political misjudgement. Grays report just adds a bit more to the Tory’s coming polling slump.
The owners must surely be getting a tad worried that they are now so out of whack with their beloved middle england readership thanks to Dacre love in with his old mate.
No way does this represent the views of middling folk.
They are fucking apoplectic about these parties whilst they missed funerals and weddings and grandkids birthdays.
Most people made up their minds on this months ago, today's report changes little and I doubt the weekend polls show much change either
Again you are just too complacent
The Lib Dem leaflet is devastating and conservative mps are heading for wipeout
I am utterly ashamed at the pathetic way Boris was grovelling today and trashing honesty and integrity
It was humiliation
Unfortunately he's not being complacent, he's spot on. The Conservative voter base is full of aged pearl-clutchers who will profess themselves to be shocked, truly shocked, by Johnson's misdemeanours - and who will nevertheless troop down to the polling stations at the next general election and dutifully put their cross next to the Conservative candidate. Most of those will be straightforward blue rosette on a donkey voters, but many will also be doing it from a cold assessment of economic self-interest and/or because, no matter what horrors the Tories commit, they detest Labour more.
For a minority of people, especially those who lost relatives to Covid, this episode has probably already switched them off the Tories permanently. Most, however, will have basically forgotten about it in a couple of years' time.
The owners must surely be getting a tad worried that they are now so out of whack with their beloved middle england readership thanks to Dacre love in with his old mate.
No way does this represent the views of middling folk.
They are fucking apoplectic about these parties whilst they missed funerals and weddings and grandkids birthdays.
Most people made up their minds on this months ago, today's report changes little and I doubt the weekend polls show much change either
Again you are just too complacent
The Lib Dem leaflet is devastating and conservative mps are heading for wipeout
I am utterly ashamed at the pathetic way Boris was grovelling today and trashing honesty and integrity
It was humiliation
I must have missed the grovelling!
All I saw was someone who took no real responsibility for any of it and blamed everyone else.
The owners must surely be getting a tad worried that they are now so out of whack with their beloved middle england readership thanks to Dacre love in with his old mate.
No way does this represent the views of middling folk.
They are fucking apoplectic about these parties whilst they missed funerals and weddings and grandkids birthdays.
Most people made up their minds on this months ago, today's report changes little and I doubt the weekend polls show much change either
Again you are just too complacent
The Lib Dem leaflet is devastating and conservative mps are heading for wipeout
I am utterly ashamed at the pathetic way Boris was grovelling today and trashing honesty and integrity
It was humiliation
Yes but you were utterly ashamed about Boris 6 months ago, yet still seem to switch back and forth between Tory and non Tory again depending on your mood that week
Well the last 48 hours has confirmed my worst fears and while I want a conservative government I also want his mps to stand up for honesty and integrity and show Boris the door
I was embarrassed and ashamed today and frankly cannot bear the sight of him
Meanwhile, ITV News has been showing pictures of the various child victims of the latest school massacre. Apparently, twelve American children are shot dead everyday. Gunshot wounds are the leading cause of death for children in the United States, having just overtaken car accidents.
We bemoan, often with fulsome justification, the deficiencies of this country, but the US is a really, really sick society. Properly warped.
Yes, kids finding and playing with loaded handguns is an everyday cause of death in America.
Many years ago I was staying in a mate's American cousin's flat. One day I looked up from the sofa across to the corridor that led to the bedrooms to see his kitten playing with a gun bullet which the cat had found apparently under the bed.
Ben Bradshaw wins sanctimonious tweet of the day award
'Apologies to my constituents who may have wished me to be in the chamber today. But I couldn’t be in the same physical space as that man & the craven Tory MPs keeping him there. I have full confidence in the decency of the British people to correct that at the next election.'
The owners must surely be getting a tad worried that they are now so out of whack with their beloved middle england readership thanks to Dacre love in with his old mate.
No way does this represent the views of middling folk.
They are fucking apoplectic about these parties whilst they missed funerals and weddings and grandkids birthdays.
Most people made up their minds on this months ago, today's report changes little and I doubt the weekend polls show much change either
Again you are just too complacent
The Lib Dem leaflet is devastating and conservative mps are heading for wipeout
I am utterly ashamed at the pathetic way Boris was grovelling today and trashing honesty and integrity
It was humiliation
Yes but you were utterly ashamed about Boris 6 months ago, yet still seem to switch back and forth between Tory and non Tory again depending on your mood that week
Well the last 48 hours has confirmed my worst fears and while I want a conservative government I also want his mps to stand up for honesty and integrity and show Boris the door
I was embarrassed and ashamed today and frankly cannot bear the sight of him
Sorry, the party's left you. It's gone. It belongs to HYUFD types now, with their divine right of kings and "your culture is not my culture" ethnobigotry.
People like me have been trying to tell people like you for some time now.
Ben Bradshaw wins sanctimonious tweet of the day award
'Apologies to my constituents who may have wished me to be in the chamber today. But I couldn’t be in the same physical space as that man & the craven Tory MPs keeping him there. I have full confidence in the decency of the British people to correct that at the next election.'
The owners must surely be getting a tad worried that they are now so out of whack with their beloved middle england readership thanks to Dacre love in with his old mate.
No way does this represent the views of middling folk.
They are fucking apoplectic about these parties whilst they missed funerals and weddings and grandkids birthdays.
Most people made up their minds on this months ago, today's report changes little and I doubt the weekend polls show much change either
Again you are just too complacent
The Lib Dem leaflet is devastating and conservative mps are heading for wipeout
I am utterly ashamed at the pathetic way Boris was grovelling today and trashing honesty and integrity
It was humiliation
Yes but you were utterly ashamed about Boris 6 months ago, yet still seem to switch back and forth between Tory and non Tory again depending on your mood that week
Well the last 48 hours has confirmed my worst fears and while I want a conservative government I also want his mps to stand up for honesty and integrity and show Boris the door
I was embarrassed and ashamed today and frankly cannot bear the sight of him
Welcome to the club!
I actually voted for him in the London mayoralties (or perhaps, against Ken), and while I don’r regret those votes I do regret that they helped launch him into a national stage.
I would suggest a different list for any incoming Conservative MPs:
Balliol, Oxford Eton Windor Balmoral Fortnum & Mason's Lords Cricket Ground Number Eleven Downing Street The 151 in Chelsea Hampstead High Street Goldman Sachs Barnard Castle (but only if concerned about their eyesight) Marshall Wace Smith Square
The owners must surely be getting a tad worried that they are now so out of whack with their beloved middle england readership thanks to Dacre love in with his old mate.
No way does this represent the views of middling folk.
They are fucking apoplectic about these parties whilst they missed funerals and weddings and grandkids birthdays.
Most people made up their minds on this months ago, today's report changes little and I doubt the weekend polls show much change either
Again you are just too complacent
The Lib Dem leaflet is devastating and conservative mps are heading for wipeout
I am utterly ashamed at the pathetic way Boris was grovelling today and trashing honesty and integrity
It was humiliation
Yes but you were utterly ashamed about Boris 6 months ago, yet still seem to switch back and forth between Tory and non Tory again depending on your mood that week
Well the last 48 hours has confirmed my worst fears and while I want a conservative government I also want his mps to stand up for honesty and integrity and show Boris the door
I was embarrassed and ashamed today and frankly cannot bear the sight of him
Sorry, the party's left you. It's gone. It belongs to HYUFD types now, with their divine right of kings and "your culture is not my culture" ethnobigotry.
People like me have been trying to tell people like you for some time now.
I am not saying Boris is fascist, he’s obviously not at all, but the psychology of his willingness to lie even when he knows that you know he is lying is the kind of sick, power-play that one sees in fascistic regimes.
There’s probably a technical term for the sense of embarrassment, humiliation, nausea and fury it induces.
I see Guildford MP has said it is all unacceptable and had that report been about her she would have resigned.
SE Tory MPs starting to feel the steely cold edge of the executioner's sword as the LibDems prepare to take their seats?
All of these protestations are utterly meaningless unless they do something concrete about the problem.
As I posted earlier, this is Starmer's best ever day as leader.
Johnson remains. His party hasn't the guts to ditch the lying cad and the public increasingly loathe him and all his lies.
Game on for jan 2025.
Good grief can he stretch it out into 2025 now?
It’s always been an option, although winter elections are still rare.
There was a PB discussion earlier about Jan 2025 sparked by a tweet from a strategist or focus group guru. That is last possible date.
January is a grim month. The jollity of Christmas but a memory, bills to pay, tax returns to complete, poor weather, diets and dry January. Not the time for Johnsonion puffery.
This is an oddly inspiring task. A reminder that the UK, despite being relatively small, contains a truly intense variation in landscape, cityscape, culture, history. Amazing. We are citizens of an amazing country
My frustration is that it could be so much better; there’s are huge treasures to build upon.
Meanwhile, ITV News has been showing pictures of the various child victims of the latest school massacre. Apparently, twelve American children are shot dead everyday. Gunshot wounds are the leading cause of death for children in the United States, having just overtaken car accidents.
We bemoan, often with fulsome justification, the deficiencies of this country, but the US is a really, really sick society. Properly warped.
Yes, kids finding and playing with loaded handguns is an everyday cause of death in America.
Many years ago I was staying in a mate's American cousin's flat. One day I looked up from the sofa across to the corridor that led to the bedrooms to see his kitten playing with a gun bullet which the cat had found apparently under the bed.
So why was Boris (and Rishi) fined for that when Downing Street seemed to be having regular piss-ups ?
So the met, having allowed themselves to get involved in politics with the greased up pig/out of control shopping trolley, are now once more held up to ridicule. It’s almost impossible to understand why Sunak has been given a fpn for what he did, with what we now know.
Isn't it the fact there was an email for this gathering ? This is the equivalent of going 35 in a 30 zone whilst a camera is there - meanwhile the more difficult to prosecute reckless driving later in the evening has been left alone. Going after what's easy rather than what's egregious. Speeding fines vs burglary prosecutions.
I would suggest a different list for any incoming Conservative MPs:
Balliol, Oxford Eton Windor Balmoral Fortnum & Mason's Lords Cricket Ground Number Eleven Downing Street The 151 in Chelsea Hampstead High Street Goldman Sachs Barnard Castle (but only if concerned about their eyesight) Marshall Wace Smith Square
Hampstead High Street? Infra dig these days, I’m afraid. Terribly spoiled by Russians and theatrical arrivistes.
“St Helens Abergavenny Matlock Spa Blackgang Chine Middlesbrough Portscatho Ashton-upon-Lyne Appledore Borth Isle of Ely Vatersay Pittenweem Grey Street Gosport Uttoxeter Coventry Chipping Camden Port Sunlight Old Radnor Preston Bus Station”
Your list is just as good as mine, and I haven’t been to at least half of yours
This is an oddly inspiring task. A reminder that the UK, despite being relatively small, contains a truly intense variation in landscape, cityscape, culture, history. Amazing. We are citizens of an amazing country
Appledore is fascinating. Generations who were born and have never left. Gentrifying and fading fast, of course.
Before the railways came to Bideford this part of Devon, especially Hartland, was very insular, its trading links being via the sea with South Wales for coal in, and grain out. Now the railway doesn’t even reach Bideford, terminating at Barnstaple.
I would suggest a different list for any incoming Conservative MPs:
Balliol, Oxford Eton Windor Balmoral Fortnum & Mason's Lords Cricket Ground Number Eleven Downing Street The 151 in Chelsea Hampstead High Street Goldman Sachs Barnard Castle (but only if concerned about their eyesight) Marshall Wace Smith Square
Hampstead High Street? Infra dig these days, I’m afraid. Terribly spoiled by Russians and theatrical arrivistes.
Labour surprisingly won a seat (1 out of 3) there at the local elections. Said winner was so surprised that he's now standing down:
So why was Boris (and Rishi) fined for that when Downing Street seemed to be having regular piss-ups ?
So the met, having allowed themselves to get involved in politics with the greased up pig/out of control shopping trolley, are now once more held up to ridicule. It’s almost impossible to understand why Sunak has been given a fpn for what he did, with what we now know.
Isn't it the fact there was an email for this gathering ? This is the equivalent of going 35 in a 30 zone whilst a camera is there - meanwhile the more difficult to prosecute reckless driving later in the evening has been left alone. Going after what's easy rather than what's egregious. Speeding fines vs burglary prosecutions.
I think it's the fact that Sue Gray did a proper, thorough investigation for this event, before the Met got involved, at which point the proper investigation stopped, and it was a case of filling in questionnaires. So nobody did a proper thorough investigation if Sue Gray hadn't already done so.
I am not saying Boris is fascist, he’s obviously not at all, but the psychology of his willingness to lie even when he knows that you know he is lying is the kind of sick, power-play that one sees in fascistic regimes.
There’s probably a technical term for the sense of embarrassment, humiliation, nausea and fury it induces.
I don’t want to sound overly prudish, I work in advertising / tech FFS, but I’m a bit shocked by the reports of scuffles and vomiting inside Number 10.
Whether or not Boris is culpable, it talks to a complete collapse in discipline.
I don’t want to sound overly prudish, I work in advertising / tech FFS, but I’m a bit shocked by the reports of scuffles and vomiting inside Number 10.
Whether or not Boris is culpable, it talks to a complete collapse in discipline.
Do you reckon Boris Johnson would turn up to the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee in Holyrood if asked? No? Well then.
Drakeford's appeared twice, and its taken her nearly seven months to reply.....
She said in her letter that she is held accountable to the Scottish Parliament and pointed members of the Committee to her recent appearance before the Scottish Parliament Conveners' Committee on March 2.
However, as pointed out in the Commons' committee’s original invitation send on November 1, 2021, Welsh First Minister Mark Drakeford has appeared before Westminster’s Welsh Affairs Committee twice so far during this Parliament.
In a statement to the press today the Scottish Affairs Committee said it was disappointed that the First Minister has declined the invitation and that it took so long to secure a reply to the invitation.
I don’t want to sound overly prudish, I work in advertising / tech FFS, but I’m a bit shocked by the reports of scuffles and vomiting inside Number 10.
Whether or not Boris is culpable, it talks to a complete collapse in discipline.
Bullingdonisation
Seems the only people with any sense of decency and common sense were the cleaners and security staff.
None of whom, I would guess, went to public school and Oxford.
I am not saying Boris is fascist, he’s obviously not at all, but the psychology of his willingness to lie even when he knows that you know he is lying is the kind of sick, power-play that one sees in fascistic regimes.
There’s probably a technical term for the sense of embarrassment, humiliation, nausea and fury it induces.
And OK, it's obviously better to have a Boris than a fascist.
But there's also the sense that, for Boris, it is all just a game. None of it's real. The great villanous leaders of the world gave off a sense that their evil meant something. A warped, cruel, ultimately wrong something, but a something nonetheless.
Whereas Johnson clearly couldn't give a stuff as long as he is the one sitting in the big chair. For him, it's all just a game, and we're just a toy.
Meanwhile, ITV News has been showing pictures of the various child victims of the latest school massacre. Apparently, twelve American children are shot dead everyday. Gunshot wounds are the leading cause of death for children in the United States, having just overtaken car accidents.
We bemoan, often with fulsome justification, the deficiencies of this country, but the US is a really, really sick society. Properly warped.
Yes, kids finding and playing with loaded handguns is an everyday cause of death in America.
Many years ago I was staying in a mate's American cousin's flat. One day I looked up from the sofa across to the corridor that led to the bedrooms to see his kitten playing with a gun bullet which the cat had found apparently under the bed.
The owners must surely be getting a tad worried that they are now so out of whack with their beloved middle england readership thanks to Dacre love in with his old mate.
No way does this represent the views of middling folk.
They are fucking apoplectic about these parties whilst they missed funerals and weddings and grandkids birthdays.
Most people made up their minds on this months ago, today's report changes little and I doubt the weekend polls show much change either
Again you are just too complacent
The Lib Dem leaflet is devastating and conservative mps are heading for wipeout
I am utterly ashamed at the pathetic way Boris was grovelling today and trashing honesty and integrity
It was humiliation
Yes but you were utterly ashamed about Boris 6 months ago, yet still seem to switch back and forth between Tory and non Tory again depending on your mood that week
You should be ashamed of your Prime Minister.
You and people like Simon Hart and Robert Buckland demean yourselves by defending this outrageous man. Denial upon denial when we have photoraphs.
Your Party have better quality personnel than Boris Johnson, he is an embarrassment to your party and our nation.
I am not saying Boris is fascist, he’s obviously not at all, but the psychology of his willingness to lie even when he knows that you know he is lying is the kind of sick, power-play that one sees in fascistic regimes.
There’s probably a technical term for the sense of embarrassment, humiliation, nausea and fury it induces.
At the same time he was raising a glass people had to miss funerals for loved ones.
That's what the fucking fuss is all about.
If the Express thinks its ageing readership of royal fanatics and worried weather watchers thinks getting pissed to 4am whilst the Queen buries her husband is ok then do please carry on killing your sales.
I don’t want to sound overly prudish, I work in advertising / tech FFS, but I’m a bit shocked by the reports of scuffles and vomiting inside Number 10.
Whether or not Boris is culpable, it talks to a complete collapse in discipline.
Well quite, even at university that sort of thing was deprecated after the first term
A consultant physician has been stuck off for wrongly prescribing sex-change treatments to seven transgender patients - one who was aged just nine and another a teenager who took their own life few months later.
Dr Michael Webberley, who spent 34 years working for the NHS, provided puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones via GenderGP, an online gender clinic which he ran with his GP wife Dr Helen Webberley.
A Medical Practitioners Tribunal Service (MPTS) panel found there had been a 'catalogue of failings' in relation to his care of the seven patients between February 2017 and June 2019.
His wife's licence to practise in the same field (she is also a doctor) has also been suspended for similar reasons.
The litigation that will be forthcoming in a few years from the activities of people like them and those who push their "services" will be quite something to behold.
Ben Bradshaw wins sanctimonious tweet of the day award
'Apologies to my constituents who may have wished me to be in the chamber today. But I couldn’t be in the same physical space as that man & the craven Tory MPs keeping him there. I have full confidence in the decency of the British people to correct that at the next election.'
I don’t want to sound overly prudish, I work in advertising / tech FFS, but I’m a bit shocked by the reports of scuffles and vomiting inside Number 10.
Whether or not Boris is culpable, it talks to a complete collapse in discipline.
Bullingdonisation
Seems the only people with any sense of decency and common sense were the cleaners and security staff.
None of whom, I would guess, went to public school and Oxford.
I've been reading the Sue Gray report for myself. Sounds like some people tried to claim they were sensible, which gives rise to this acid paragraph: Lee Cain says he subsequently spoke to Martin Reynolds and advised him that the event should be cancelled. Martin Reynolds does not recall any such conversation. In addition, Dominic Cummings has also said that he too raised concerns, in writing. We have not found any documentary evidence of this.
Ben Bradshaw wins sanctimonious tweet of the day award
'Apologies to my constituents who may have wished me to be in the chamber today. But I couldn’t be in the same physical space as that man & the craven Tory MPs keeping him there. I have full confidence in the decency of the British people to correct that at the next election.'
I just can't stand this attitude. It's literally no better than the Custard Conservatives who are failing to remove Boris. Country before party, people! Keeping Boris looks a lot to me like electoral seppuku for the Tories, but it's bad for the country too.
Those who want the country to suffer for relative party advantage are not the good guys whichever side they're on.
A consultant physician has been stuck off for wrongly prescribing sex-change treatments to seven transgender patients - one who was aged just nine and another a teenager who took their own life few months later.
Dr Michael Webberley, who spent 34 years working for the NHS, provided puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones via GenderGP, an online gender clinic which he ran with his GP wife Dr Helen Webberley.
A Medical Practitioners Tribunal Service (MPTS) panel found there had been a 'catalogue of failings' in relation to his care of the seven patients between February 2017 and June 2019.
His wife's licence to practise in the same field (she is also a doctor) has also been suspended for similar reasons.
The litigation that will be forthcoming in a few years from the activities of people like them and those who push their "services" will be quite something to behold.
And we will have creepy little wannabe right on fucks like JosiasJessop on here saying yebbut that's just the sort of edge case that a total transphobe would go on about
I don’t want to sound overly prudish, I work in advertising / tech FFS, but I’m a bit shocked by the reports of scuffles and vomiting inside Number 10.
Whether or not Boris is culpable, it talks to a complete collapse in discipline.
Bullingdonisation
Seems the only people with any sense of decency and common sense were the cleaners and security staff.
None of whom, I would guess, went to public school and Oxford.
In addition, Dominic Cummings has also said that he too raised concerns, in writing. We have not found any documentary evidence of this.
I suppose he couldn't retrospectively rewrite his emails as he did with his blog....
I just can't stand this attitude. It's literally no better than the Custard Conservatives who are failing to remove Boris. Country before party, people! Keeping Boris looks a lot to me like electoral seppuku for the Tories, but it's bad for the country too.
Those who want the country to suffer for relative party advantage are not the good guys whichever side they're on.
Correct. And as people keep saying he is awfully good at winning elections. The bollocks about All the better if he is still in place in 2024, is bollocks. Because the thought of him with another 5 year mandate is Hitler level frightening.
I just can't stand this attitude. It's literally no better than the Custard Conservatives who are failing to remove Boris. Country before party, people! Keeping Boris looks a lot to me like electoral seppuku for the Tories, but it's bad for the country too.
Those who want the country to suffer for relative party advantage are not the good guys whichever side they're on.
Correct. And as people keep saying he is awfully good at winning elections. The bollocks about All the better if he is still in place in 2024, is bollocks. Because the thought of him with another 5 year mandate is Hitler level frightening.
I would as a Labour man love him to stay because we will win but for the good of the country and our democracy, he should go and the Tories should get somebody decent again
A consultant physician has been stuck off for wrongly prescribing sex-change treatments to seven transgender patients - one who was aged just nine and another a teenager who took their own life few months later.
Dr Michael Webberley, who spent 34 years working for the NHS, provided puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones via GenderGP, an online gender clinic which he ran with his GP wife Dr Helen Webberley.
A Medical Practitioners Tribunal Service (MPTS) panel found there had been a 'catalogue of failings' in relation to his care of the seven patients between February 2017 and June 2019.
His wife's licence to practise in the same field (she is also a doctor) has also been suspended for similar reasons.
The litigation that will be forthcoming in a few years from the activities of people like them and those who push their "services" will be quite something to behold.
And we will have creepy little wannabe right on fucks like JosiasJessop on here saying yebbut that's just the sort of edge case that a total transphobe would go on about
Did I just say that out loud?
I think that's unfair.
JJ has some acquaintances (friends/colleagues?) who are trans and sometimes reacts to criticism of trans activists (who as often as not happen to be men) leaping to the defence of trans people.
The quarrel is not with trans people, but with some of the extremist activists (often not trans themselves) who believe that gender trumps sex and rights should be based on gender, not sex. And some doctors who have behaved unprofessionally, putting questionable theory ahead of good medical practice.
A consultant physician has been stuck off for wrongly prescribing sex-change treatments to seven transgender patients - one who was aged just nine and another a teenager who took their own life few months later.
Dr Michael Webberley, who spent 34 years working for the NHS, provided puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones via GenderGP, an online gender clinic which he ran with his GP wife Dr Helen Webberley.
A Medical Practitioners Tribunal Service (MPTS) panel found there had been a 'catalogue of failings' in relation to his care of the seven patients between February 2017 and June 2019.
His wife's licence to practise in the same field (she is also a doctor) has also been suspended for similar reasons.
The litigation that will be forthcoming in a few years from the activities of people like them and those who push their "services" will be quite something to behold.
And we will have creepy little wannabe right on fucks like JosiasJessop on here saying yebbut that's just the sort of edge case that a total transphobe would go on about
Did I just say that out loud?
You did.
These are children who are being experimented on - and in a way that will cause them great harm for the rest of their lives. They are being denied proper well-considered treatment, including therapy. Indeed the Labour Party wants to stop them getting therapy because that would amount - in their ignorance - to conversion therapy. Too much effort for them actually to read the Cass Interim Report I suppose
I feel strongly about this issue because a close family member was one of these children who, were it not for the care of their parents, would have ended up in the hands of these ghouls. But after proper care they are now happily gay.
Until some idiotic Stonewall person starts telling them that they should be having sex with people they're not sexually attracted to. Incidentally the person running that "cotton ceiling" seminar I mentioned earlier has since gone to work for Stonewall, which has its dibs on lots of companies paying for the privilege of being misled about the law by them and being given seminars about who people must be "persuaded" into having sex with.
Anyone under the age of 50 doesn't get support with cost of living, pensioners and the elderly get a bung. Students and young people working have to support these parasites.
I just can't stand this attitude. It's literally no better than the Custard Conservatives who are failing to remove Boris. Country before party, people! Keeping Boris looks a lot to me like electoral seppuku for the Tories, but it's bad for the country too.
Those who want the country to suffer for relative party advantage are not the good guys whichever side they're on.
Correct. And as people keep saying he is awfully good at winning elections. The bollocks about All the better if he is still in place in 2024, is bollocks. Because the thought of him with another 5 year mandate is Hitler level frightening.
Boris Derangement Syndrome rears its ugly head.
Our Prime Minister, whose vaccine programme saved thousands of lives, is as frightening as a man who caused 30 million deaths, because he had a couple of drinks jn his own house and then shaved the truth about it. Apparently.
At the same time he was raising a glass people had to miss funerals for loved ones.
That's what the fucking fuss is all about.
If the Express thinks its ageing readership of royal fanatics and worried weather watchers thinks getting pissed to 4am whilst the Queen buries her husband is ok then do please carry on killing your sales.
When was a lockdown party not a lockdown party? When Boris Johnson was in attendance.
I just can't stand this attitude. It's literally no better than the Custard Conservatives who are failing to remove Boris. Country before party, people! Keeping Boris looks a lot to me like electoral seppuku for the Tories, but it's bad for the country too.
Those who want the country to suffer for relative party advantage are not the good guys whichever side they're on.
Correct. And as people keep saying he is awfully good at winning elections. The bollocks about All the better if he is still in place in 2024, is bollocks. Because the thought of him with another 5 year mandate is Hitler level frightening.
I would as a Labour man love him to stay because we will win but for the good of the country and our democracy, he should go and the Tories should get somebody decent again
The difficulty you may find is events. A favourable event just prior to the next GE could see this f***** continue as Prime Minister until 2030. This is why I would prefer to see the back of the **** now!
I see Guildford MP has said it is all unacceptable and had that report been about her she would have resigned.
SE Tory MPs starting to feel the steely cold edge of the executioner's sword as the LibDems prepare to take their seats?
All of these protestations are utterly meaningless unless they do something concrete about the problem.
As I posted earlier, this is Starmer's best ever day as leader.
Johnson remains. His party hasn't the guts to ditch the lying cad and the public increasingly loathe him and all his lies.
Game on for jan 2025.
Good grief can he stretch it out into 2025 now?
It’s always been an option, although winter elections are still rare.
There was a PB discussion earlier about Jan 2025 sparked by a tweet from a strategist or focus group guru. That is last possible date.
January is a grim month. The jollity of Christmas but a memory, bills to pay, tax returns to complete, poor weather, diets and dry January. Not the time for Johnsonion puffery.
It has been reported that Boris favours autumn and winter elections because he believes Conservative voters are more likely to turn out in bad weather. The conventional wisdom, of course, is spring is best.
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All of these protestations are utterly meaningless unless they do something concrete about the problem.
Keir drank baby's blood.
It was such an extraordinary claim that I had to double check it - and behold, here is evidence from a reputable publication: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2201761
We bemoan, often with fulsome justification, the deficiencies of this country, but the US is a really, really sick society. Properly warped.
Gonna be a great night on 23rd.
Would have been handy in Wythenshawe.
No way does this represent the views of middling folk.
They are fucking apoplectic about these parties whilst they missed funerals and weddings and grandkids birthdays.
Johnson remains. His party hasn't the guts to ditch the lying cad and the public increasingly loathe him and all his lies.
Game on for jan 2025.
Dr Michael Webberley, who spent 34 years working for the NHS, provided puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones via GenderGP, an online gender clinic which he ran with his GP wife Dr Helen Webberley.
A Medical Practitioners Tribunal Service (MPTS) panel found there had been a 'catalogue of failings' in relation to his care of the seven patients between February 2017 and June 2019.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10854047/Doctor-struck-prescribing-sex-change-drugs-private-online-GenderGp-clinic.html
The Lib Dem leaflet is devastating and conservative mps are heading for wipeout
I am utterly ashamed at the pathetic way Boris was grovelling today and trashing honesty and integrity
It was humiliation
Except, of course, mid-term LibDem wins in by-elections.
Meanwhile, fair play to the Telegraph is spot on with Partygate phase 2 - the big cover up.
The question is, of course, whether all the 2019 Tory voters who profess to be enraged by his antics nevertheless find excuses to justify to themselves going out to vote Conservative again. I think that many of them will. The detoxification of the Labour brand is far from complete and, as I discussed in the previous thread, the Tories still have no shortage of cards to play.
The Government doesn't need to be loved to win another election. It just needs to be feared less than the Opposition by a sufficient number of those 2019 voters.
1) Ethnic suburb
2) Inner city tower block estate
3) Edge of conurbation giant council estate
4) Affluent commuter belt
5) Ancient cathedral city
6) Historic industrial town
7) Northern ex-urban motorway development
8) Isolated mining town
9) Arable farming district
10) Sectarian shithole
11) Old fishing port
12) Working class holiday town
13) Upland sheep farming district
And seven others.
“St Helens
Abergavenny
Matlock Spa
Blackgang Chine
Middlesbrough
Portscatho
Ashton-upon-Lyne
Appledore
Borth
Isle of Ely
Vatersay
Pittenweem
Grey Street
Gosport
Uttoxeter
Coventry
Chipping Camden
Port Sunlight
Old Radnor
Preston Bus Station”
Your list is just as good as mine, and I haven’t been to at least half of yours
This is an oddly inspiring task. A reminder that the UK, despite being relatively small, contains a truly intense variation in landscape, cityscape, culture, history. Amazing. We are citizens of an amazing country
Most people will glance at it and see a photo of Johnson on the piss. They will be reminded of his law breaking all over again. I doubt many will take in Dacre's message that there is nothing to see.
So what was all that stuff about bearing responsibility and feeling humbled by it he was also saying? Why would someone who had been vindicated feel any of that?
The early June polls were always going to be dire for the Tories, we were arguing on here late last night what caused the last big drop last autumn, the truth is it was a weight of things, fiscal, sleazy, political misjudgement. Grays report just adds a bit more to the Tory’s coming polling slump.
For a minority of people, especially those who lost relatives to Covid, this episode has probably already switched them off the Tories permanently. Most, however, will have basically forgotten about it in a couple of years' time.
Sunderland
Ullapool
Caithness
Kilkeel
Manchester
Yeovil
Derby
Ipswich
Camborne
Kendal
All I saw was someone who took no real responsibility for any of it and blamed everyone else.
I was embarrassed and ashamed today and frankly cannot bear the sight of him
It's grim up North:
'Apologies to my constituents who may have wished me to be in the chamber today. But I couldn’t be in the same physical space as that man & the craven Tory MPs keeping him there. I have full confidence in the decency of the British people to correct that at the next election.'
https://twitter.com/BenPBradshaw/status/1529565272075542530?s=20&t=jCCG3RogeTYK8wfgoTem7g
People like me have been trying to tell people like you for some time now.
Paddington Lizzie Line:
Tottenham Court Road:
Farringdon:
Liverpool Street:
Whitechapel:
Canary Wharf:
Custom House:
Woolwich:
Abbey Wood:
I actually voted for him in the London mayoralties (or perhaps, against Ken), and while I don’r regret those votes I do regret that they helped launch him into a national stage.
I would suggest a different list for any incoming Conservative MPs:
Balliol, Oxford
Eton
Windor
Balmoral
Fortnum & Mason's
Lords Cricket Ground
Number Eleven Downing Street
The 151 in Chelsea
Hampstead High Street
Goldman Sachs
Barnard Castle (but only if concerned about their eyesight)
Marshall Wace
Smith Square
There’s probably a technical term for the sense of embarrassment, humiliation, nausea and fury it induces.
This is the equivalent of going 35 in a 30 zone whilst a camera is there - meanwhile the more difficult to prosecute reckless driving later in the evening has been left alone.
Going after what's easy rather than what's egregious.
Speeding fines vs burglary prosecutions.
Infra dig these days, I’m afraid. Terribly spoiled by Russians and theatrical arrivistes.
I cannot recall a time in my 60 years assisting and voting for the party outside 97 and 01 feeling so angry and disillusioned
I hope the Lib Dems trounce them next month
Before the railways came to Bideford this part of Devon, especially Hartland, was very insular, its trading links being via the sea with South Wales for coal in, and grain out. Now the railway doesn’t even reach Bideford, terminating at Barnstaple.
https://www.hamhigh.co.uk/news/local-council/cllr-adrian-cohen-stands-down-from-hampstead-town-8994986
The exteriors look amazing. Go, London
The timing is perfect
Drinking, fights, vomiting: all in a day's work says PM
Whether or not Boris is culpable, it talks to a complete collapse in discipline.
You'll be getting nothing like this.
#LevelingUpMyArse
She said in her letter that she is held accountable to the Scottish Parliament and pointed members of the Committee to her recent appearance before the Scottish Parliament Conveners' Committee on March 2.
However, as pointed out in the Commons' committee’s original invitation send on November 1, 2021, Welsh First Minister Mark Drakeford has appeared before Westminster’s Welsh Affairs Committee twice so far during this Parliament.
In a statement to the press today the Scottish Affairs Committee said it was disappointed that the First Minister has declined the invitation and that it took so long to secure a reply to the invitation.
https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/20164659.nicola-sturgeon-disappoints-mps-declining-invite/?ref=twtrec
What is it about scrutiny that frightens Nicola Sturgeon?
None of whom, I would guess, went to public school and Oxford.
https://twitter.com/SamRamani2/status/1529588083922030594
But there's also the sense that, for Boris, it is all just a game. None of it's real. The great villanous leaders of the world gave off a sense that their evil meant something. A warped, cruel, ultimately wrong something, but a something nonetheless.
Whereas Johnson clearly couldn't give a stuff as long as he is the one sitting in the big chair. For him, it's all just a game, and we're just a toy.
Crossrail might be useful and usable but there seems little impressive from these stations.
Are people really that excited about escalators and purple logos ?
You and people like Simon Hart and Robert Buckland demean yourselves by defending this outrageous man. Denial upon denial when we have photoraphs.
Your Party have better quality personnel than Boris Johnson, he is an embarrassment to your party and our nation.
That's what the fucking fuss is all about.
If the Express thinks its ageing readership of royal fanatics and worried weather watchers thinks getting pissed to 4am whilst the Queen buries her husband is ok then do please carry on killing your sales.
The litigation that will be forthcoming in a few years from the activities of people like them and those who push their "services" will be quite something to behold.
John Cleese
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Alastair,
I think that the longer Boris lingers, the more damage he will do to the current Tory party
So...let's keep him there as long as we can
https://twitter.com/JohnCleese/status/1529518066148683777
Lee Cain says
he subsequently spoke to Martin Reynolds and advised him that the event should
be cancelled. Martin Reynolds does not recall any such conversation. In addition,
Dominic Cummings has also said that he too raised concerns, in writing. We have
not found any documentary evidence of this.
Those who want the country to suffer for relative party advantage are not the good guys whichever side they're on.
Did I just say that out loud?
JJ has some acquaintances (friends/colleagues?) who are trans and sometimes reacts to criticism of trans activists (who as often as not happen to be men) leaping to the defence of trans people.
The quarrel is not with trans people, but with some of the extremist activists (often not trans themselves) who believe that gender trumps sex and rights should be based on gender, not sex. And some doctors who have behaved unprofessionally, putting questionable theory ahead of good medical practice.
These are children who are being experimented on - and in a way that will cause them great harm for the rest of their lives. They are being denied proper well-considered treatment, including therapy. Indeed the Labour Party wants to stop them getting therapy because that would amount - in their ignorance - to conversion therapy. Too much effort for them actually to read the Cass Interim Report I suppose
I feel strongly about this issue because a close family member was one of these children who, were it not for the care of their parents, would have ended up in the hands of these ghouls. But after proper care they are now happily gay.
Until some idiotic Stonewall person starts telling them that they should be having sex with people they're not sexually attracted to. Incidentally the person running that "cotton ceiling" seminar I mentioned earlier has since gone to work for Stonewall, which has its dibs on lots of companies paying for the privilege of being misled about the law by them and being given seminars about who people must be "persuaded" into having sex with.
These are not edge cases.
Our Prime Minister, whose vaccine programme saved thousands of lives, is as frightening as a man who caused 30 million deaths, because he had a couple of drinks jn his own house and then shaved the truth about it. Apparently.
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