LAB lead down to 1% with YouGov – politicalbetting.com
This is by far the best poll for the Tories for sometime and as ever the question is whether it is an outlier or not. Other recent polls have had with much bigger margins including R&W where all the fieldwork took place yesterday.
We've now got some embarrassed looking guy in a really silly costume sitting in the back of a huge car thats all windows with a hat having the national anthem played to him.
Savanta survey says people think Starmer broke the COVID rules by 49% to 18%. So they will be disappointed if he doesn't resign regardless of what the police think.
A necessary condition for a peace agreement must surely be the repatriation of the huge number of abducted Ukrainians ?
Russia has deported more than 1,185 million people from Ukraine, including 200,000 children, since the start of the full-scale invasion of Ukraine, says Ombudswoman Lyudmila Denisova https://twitter.com/Hromadske/status/1523947789872418817
Savanta survey says people think Starmer broke the COVID rules by 49% to 18%. So they will be disappointed if he doesn't resign regardless of what the police think.
A necessary condition for a peace agreement must surely be the repatriation of the huge number of abducted Ukrainians ?
Russia has deported more than 1,185 million people from Ukraine, including 200,000 children, since the start of the full-scale invasion of Ukraine, says Ombudswoman Lyudmila Denisova https://twitter.com/Hromadske/status/1523947789872418817
We've now got some embarrassed looking guy in a really silly costume sitting in the back of a huge car thats all windows with a hat having the national anthem played to him.
We've now got some embarrassed looking guy in a really silly costume sitting in the back of a huge car thats all windows with a hat having the national anthem played to him.
If it upsets you so much why watch it
Upsets? Amuses! There is something profoundly silly about Pomp and Circumstance when it comes to the royal bit of the state.
We've now got some embarrassed looking guy in a really silly costume sitting in the back of a huge car thats all windows with a hat having the national anthem played to him.
A necessary condition for a peace agreement must surely be the repatriation of the huge number of abducted Ukrainians ?
Russia has deported more than 1,185 million people from Ukraine, including 200,000 children, since the start of the full-scale invasion of Ukraine, says Ombudswoman Lyudmila Denisova https://twitter.com/Hromadske/status/1523947789872418817
Nazi Germany was fond of stealing blond Eastern European kids, as well
"The children the Nazis stole in Poland: Forgotten victims
"During World War II, the Nazis kidnapped tens of thousands of children and forcibly "Germanized" them. Afterward, they were left to grapple with their trauma alone. Now, a book and a documentary reveal their cruel fates."
A necessary condition for a peace agreement must surely be the repatriation of the huge number of abducted Ukrainians ?
Russia has deported more than 1,185 million people from Ukraine, including 200,000 children, since the start of the full-scale invasion of Ukraine, says Ombudswoman Lyudmila Denisova https://twitter.com/Hromadske/status/1523947789872418817
1,185 million?
That’s a lot of Ukrainians.
Continental decimal point, I think. One of those translation issues, like 'bomb'.
We've now got some embarrassed looking guy in a really silly costume sitting in the back of a huge car thats all windows with a hat having the national anthem played to him.
To try and portray the UK as the only backwards place fixated on medieval tradition is a common misconception though. Arguing against the traditions is fine if you feel they're too extravagant but it's not really weird or unusual to have them. Many countries, even republics, have stupid traditions or quirks for opening their legislatures. The Netherlands basically mirrors our ceremony for example. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prinsjesdag
I think a lot of people see the dull bureaucratic business style of newer Parliaments like the EU Parliament and the devolved assemblies and think that they're the norm when they're not.
Thus confirming the absurd level of influence of the Mail - yet again.
The Mail's campaign against Johnson started from Paterson, through sleaze and Partygate, until the Ukraine War, and took in two separate editors. During that period the Labour lead was strong most of the time.
The Mail only turned on Starmer two weeks ago, really significantly for the first time. Now look what happens.
We've now got some embarrassed looking guy in a really silly costume sitting in the back of a huge car thats all windows with a hat having the national anthem played to him.
To try and portray the UK as the only backwards place fixated on medieval tradition is a common misconception though. Arguing against the traditions is fine if you feel they're too extravagant but it's not really weird or unusual to have them. Many countries, even republics, have stupid traditions or quirks for opening their legislatures. The Netherlands basically mirrors our ceremony for example. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prinsjesdag
Well, FPTP, and it has sort of happened before. Though I would be surprised if it were that high.
Of course we're also used to Holyrood, but that's got the opposite problem from FPTP anyway.
Last past the post?
Not quite that bad - but it'sd the closest voting system to that in the UK. It penalises very strongly. Very strong gearing, more so than Senedd AFAICS.
We've now got some embarrassed looking guy in a really silly costume sitting in the back of a huge car thats all windows with a hat having the national anthem played to him.
To try and portray the UK as the only backwards place fixated on medieval tradition is a common misconception though. Arguing against the traditions is fine if you feel they're too extravagant but it's not really weird or unusual to have them. Many countries, even republics, have stupid traditions or quirks for opening their legislatures. The Netherlands basically mirrors our ceremony for example. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prinsjesdag
There would have been a goof reason for the tradition in the first place even if the reason is now lost in the mists of time.
A necessary condition for a peace agreement must surely be the repatriation of the huge number of abducted Ukrainians ?
Russia has deported more than 1,185 million people from Ukraine, including 200,000 children, since the start of the full-scale invasion of Ukraine, says Ombudswoman Lyudmila Denisova https://twitter.com/Hromadske/status/1523947789872418817
Nazi Germany was fond of stealing blond Eastern European kids, as well...
Putin's Russia is a global abomination. I do not see how we can ever make a compromised peace with it, whatever Macron says
The other comparison is of course Stalin, who forcibly displaced millions for his political ends. Fellow mass murderer Putin would probably be flattered by it.
Thus confirming the absurd level of influence of the Mail - yet again.
The Mail's campaign against Johnson lasted from Paterson, through sleaze and Partygate, up to the Ukraine War, and took in two separate editors. During that period the Labour lead was strong most of the time.
The Mail only turned on Starmer two weeks ago, properly for the first time. Now look what happens.
But in the last thread you told us that this was all great for Labour and the Tories were running scared?
We've now got some embarrassed looking guy in a really silly costume sitting in the back of a huge car thats all windows with a hat having the national anthem played to him.
If it upsets you so much why watch it
Upsets? Amuses! There is something profoundly silly about Pomp and Circumstance when it comes to the royal bit of the state.
I have great respect for the Queen and her traditions but that period of our history is coming to an end, and change will happen with demands for a lot smaller royal family and I have little doubt William and Kate will further modernise it with a lot less pomp and circumstance in the future
We've now got some embarrassed looking guy in a really silly costume sitting in the back of a huge car thats all windows with a hat having the national anthem played to him.
To try and portray the UK as the only backwards place fixated on medieval tradition is a common misconception though. Arguing against the traditions is fine if you feel they're too extravagant but it's not really weird or unusual to have them. Many countries, even republics, have stupid traditions or quirks for opening their legislatures. The Netherlands basically mirrors our ceremony for example. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prinsjesdag
Not even mediaeval. By all accoiunts ENglish coronations before the CV20 were disorganized shambles. It was the C20 which whipped up a mix of pseudotraditions. LIke a post-Arnoldian "public school" in a mediaeval gothic quadrangle.
Thus confirming the absurd level of influence of the Mail - yet again.
The Mail's campaign against Johnson lasted from Paterson, through sleaze and Partygate, up to the Ukraine War, and took in two separate editors. During that period the Labour lead was strong most of the time.
The Mail only turned on Starmer two weeks ago, properly for the first time. Now look what happens.
But in the last thread you told us that this was all great for Labour and the Tories were running scared?
Confused now
Not me. I've only put in a couple of comments on Beergate, and have been off the site for a few weeks.
We've now got some embarrassed looking guy in a really silly costume sitting in the back of a huge car thats all windows with a hat having the national anthem played to him.
To try and portray the UK as the only backwards place fixated on medieval tradition is a common misconception though. Arguing against the traditions is fine if you feel they're too extravagant but it's not really weird or unusual to have them. Many countries, even republics, have stupid traditions or quirks for opening their legislatures. The Netherlands basically mirrors our ceremony for example. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prinsjesdag
There would have been a goof reason for the tradition in the first place....
Thus confirming the absurd level of influence of the Mail - yet again.
The Mail's campaign against Johnson lasted from Paterson, through sleaze and Partygate, up to the Ukraine War, and took in two separate editors. During that period the Labour lead was strong most of the time.
The Mail only turned on Starmer two weeks ago, properly for the first time. Now look what happens.
Alternatively it shows the Mail, hateful rag though it is, is populist and has its finger on the pulse and goes after whatever its readers want.
They're not leading the public, they're generally following it and recognising what its section of the public wants to hear.
Thus confirming the absurd level of influence of the Mail - yet again.
The Mail's campaign against Johnson lasted from Paterson, through sleaze and Partygate, up to the Ukraine War, and took in two separate editors. During that period the Labour lead was strong most of the time.
The Mail only turned on Starmer two weeks ago, properly for the first time. Now look what happens.
But in the last thread you told us that this was all great for Labour and the Tories were running scared?
Confused now
That was about yesterday's news, not last week's, though. Check the dates for the fieldwork,
A necessary condition for a peace agreement must surely be the repatriation of the huge number of abducted Ukrainians ?
Russia has deported more than 1,185 million people from Ukraine, including 200,000 children, since the start of the full-scale invasion of Ukraine, says Ombudswoman Lyudmila Denisova https://twitter.com/Hromadske/status/1523947789872418817
Nazi Germany was fond of stealing blond Eastern European kids, as well...
Putin's Russia is a global abomination. I do not see how we can ever make a compromised peace with it, whatever Macron says
The other comparison is of course Stalin, who forcibly displaced millions for his political ends. Fellow mass murderer Putin would probably be flattered by it.
Indeed. It is believed he wants to go down in history as one of the Russian "greats" along with Catherine, Peter and Stalin. This is the level of derangement.
Thus confirming the absurd level of influence of the Mail - yet again.
The Mail's campaign against Johnson lasted from Paterson, through sleaze and Partygate, up to the Ukraine War, and took in two separate editors. During that period the Labour lead was strong most of the time.
The Mail only turned on Starmer two weeks ago, properly for the first time. Now look what happens.
But in the last thread you told us that this was all great for Labour and the Tories were running scared?
Confused now
Not me. I've only put in a couple of comments on Beergate, and have been off the site for a few weeks.
A necessary condition for a peace agreement must surely be the repatriation of the huge number of abducted Ukrainians ?
Russia has deported more than 1,185 million people from Ukraine, including 200,000 children, since the start of the full-scale invasion of Ukraine, says Ombudswoman Lyudmila Denisova https://twitter.com/Hromadske/status/1523947789872418817
Plebecites.
Haven’t we been told that this is the way to end all this peacefully?
Create some Serbian style facts on the ground. Then the vote. Then the returning people (if they return) don’t get voting cards. In their own land.
We've now got some embarrassed looking guy in a really silly costume sitting in the back of a huge car thats all windows with a hat having the national anthem played to him.
To try and portray the UK as the only backwards place fixated on medieval tradition is a common misconception though. Arguing against the traditions is fine if you feel they're too extravagant but it's not really weird or unusual to have them. Many countries, even republics, have stupid traditions or quirks for opening their legislatures. The Netherlands basically mirrors our ceremony for example. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prinsjesdag
The Netherlands is a monarchy.
I didn't say it wasn't, I just used it as a the most direct comparison. South Africa does it too if you want an example of a republic.
Thus confirming the absurd level of influence of the Mail - yet again.
The Mail's campaign against Johnson lasted from Paterson, through sleaze and Partygate, up to the Ukraine War, and took in two separate editors. During that period the Labour lead was strong most of the time.
The Mail only turned on Starmer two weeks ago, properly for the first time. Now look what happens.
Alternatively it shows the Mail, hateful rag though it is, is populist and has its finger on the pulse and goes after whatever its readers want.
They're not leading the public, they're generally following it and recognising what its section of the public wants to hear.
They're often leading the public, too. The Mail first went crazy after Paterson, also specifically in the change in the amount of its negative coverage, and the polls took a sudden and sharp jump.
The idea that the press only follow opinion rather than also frame and form it is obvious nonsense.
We've now got some embarrassed looking guy in a really silly costume sitting in the back of a huge car thats all windows with a hat having the national anthem played to him.
If it upsets you so much why watch it
Upsets? Amuses! There is something profoundly silly about Pomp and Circumstance when it comes to the royal bit of the state.
I have great respect for the Queen and her traditions but that period of our history is coming to an end, and change will happen with demands for a lot smaller royal family and I have little doubt William and Kate will further modernise it with a lot less pomp and circumstance in the future
It is inevitable
I entirely agree. The Queen has been a wonderful servant for this country, but as her time comes to an end we have to Stop and Think about what we want going forward.
Thus confirming the absurd level of influence of the Mail - yet again.
The Mail's campaign against Johnson lasted from Paterson, through sleaze and Partygate, up to the Ukraine War, and took in two separate editors. During that period the Labour lead was strong most of the time.
The Mail only turned on Starmer two weeks ago, properly for the first time. Now look what happens.
Alternatively it shows the Mail, hateful rag though it is, is populist and has its finger on the pulse and goes after whatever its readers want.
They're not leading the public, they're generally following it and recognising what its section of the public wants to hear.
We've now got some embarrassed looking guy in a really silly costume sitting in the back of a huge car thats all windows with a hat having the national anthem played to him.
If it upsets you so much why watch it
Upsets? Amuses! There is something profoundly silly about Pomp and Circumstance when it comes to the royal bit of the state.
Oh come off it.
I'm a republican but lets be honest, all states have their own Pomp and Circumstance in such ceremonies.
The Americans have plenty of Pomp and Circumstance with the President's equivalent State of the Union speech and other set pieces.
The French have plenty of Pomp and Circumstance too in their Presidential set pieces.
Of all the reasons to be a republican, the lack of Pomp and Circumstance in republics is not one of them.
We've now got some embarrassed looking guy in a really silly costume sitting in the back of a huge car thats all windows with a hat having the national anthem played to him.
If it upsets you so much why watch it
Upsets? Amuses! There is something profoundly silly about Pomp and Circumstance when it comes to the royal bit of the state.
I have great respect for the Queen and her traditions but that period of our history is coming to an end, and change will happen with demands for a lot smaller royal family and I have little doubt William and Kate will further modernise it with a lot less pomp and circumstance in the future
It is inevitable
I entirely agree. The Queen has been a wonderful servant for this country, but as her time comes to an end we have to Stop and Think about what we want going forward.
Indeed. It's already too much like electing a bunch of reality TV stars to be President. Only we don't get to elect them obvs.
We've now got some embarrassed looking guy in a really silly costume sitting in the back of a huge car thats all windows with a hat having the national anthem played to him.
If it upsets you so much why watch it
Upsets? Amuses! There is something profoundly silly about Pomp and Circumstance when it comes to the royal bit of the state.
Oh come off it.
I'm a republican but lets be honest, all states have their own Pomp and Circumstance in such ceremonies.
The Americans have plenty of Pomp and Circumstance with the President's equivalent State of the Union speech and other set pieces.
The French have plenty of Pomp and Circumstance too in their Presidential set pieces.
Of all the reasons to be a republican, the lack of Pomp and Circumstance in republics is not one of them.
North Korea says hello (or is it a monarchy run by the House of Kim?).
A necessary condition for a peace agreement must surely be the repatriation of the huge number of abducted Ukrainians ?
Russia has deported more than 1,185 million people from Ukraine, including 200,000 children, since the start of the full-scale invasion of Ukraine, says Ombudswoman Lyudmila Denisova https://twitter.com/Hromadske/status/1523947789872418817
Nazi Germany was fond of stealing blond Eastern European kids, as well...
Putin's Russia is a global abomination. I do not see how we can ever make a compromised peace with it, whatever Macron says
The other comparison is of course Stalin, who forcibly displaced millions for his political ends. Fellow mass murderer Putin would probably be flattered by it.
I wonder if there is some deep, mysterious historical law, which says countries traumatised by war end up inflicting a version of that trauma on others
Israel springs to mind. Its treatment of Palestinians can sometimes resemble the Nazi treatment of Jews. Obviously not anywhere near as grotesque and evil - but there ARE echoes
Now we have Russia behaving like Nazi Germany in eastern Europe and Russia in WW2?
We've now got some embarrassed looking guy in a really silly costume sitting in the back of a huge car thats all windows with a hat having the national anthem played to him.
If it upsets you so much why watch it
Upsets? Amuses! There is something profoundly silly about Pomp and Circumstance when it comes to the royal bit of the state.
Oh come off it.
I'm a republican but lets be honest, all states have their own Pomp and Circumstance in such ceremonies.
The Americans have plenty of Pomp and Circumstance with the President's equivalent State of the Union speech and other set pieces.
The French have plenty of Pomp and Circumstance too in their Presidential set pieces.
Of all the reasons to be a republican, the lack of Pomp and Circumstance in republics is not one of them.
The French surround their President with as much pomp as any monarch, and he is the head of France's main chivalric order.
Thus confirming the absurd level of influence of the Mail - yet again.
The Mail's campaign against Johnson lasted from Paterson, through sleaze and Partygate, up to the Ukraine War, and took in two separate editors. During that period the Labour lead was strong most of the time.
The Mail only turned on Starmer two weeks ago, properly for the first time. Now look what happens.
But in the last thread you told us that this was all great for Labour and the Tories were running scared?
Confused now
Not me. I've only put in a couple of comments on Beergate, and have been off the site for a few weeks.
Thus confirming the absurd level of influence of the Mail - yet again.
The Mail's campaign against Johnson lasted from Paterson, through sleaze and Partygate, up to the Ukraine War, and took in two separate editors. During that period the Labour lead was strong most of the time.
The Mail only turned on Starmer two weeks ago, properly for the first time. Now look what happens.
But in the last thread you told us that this was all great for Labour and the Tories were running scared?
Confused now
Not me. I've only put in a couple of comments on Beergate, and have been off the site for a few weeks.
I am surprised we haven't got a four or five point Yougov Tory lead. It has been wall to wall bad news for Starmer/Labour for a week.
Johnson should have announced his snap election yesterday before Starmer's speech. An election means purdah for both Johnson and Starmer. I am not sure that six weeks of Johnson campaigning from a fridge against Starmer will look as good as Johnson campaigning from a fridge against a leaderless Labour Party or Jeremy Corbyn, which I guess is much the same thing.
Johnson does have a USP. Vote Conservative get Johnson, vote Labour get anyone but Starmer. Although that certainty may not be the vote winner it once was.
Thus confirming the absurd level of influence of the Mail - yet again.
The Mail's campaign against Johnson lasted from Paterson, through sleaze and Partygate, up to the Ukraine War, and took in two separate editors. During that period the Labour lead was strong most of the time.
The Mail only turned on Starmer two weeks ago, properly for the first time. Now look what happens.
Alternatively it shows the Mail, hateful rag though it is, is populist and has its finger on the pulse and goes after whatever its readers want.
They're not leading the public, they're generally following it and recognising what its section of the public wants to hear.
The public wants to hear about 500 things which cause cancer? Sadly, you're probably right.
I've just seen photos, but Charles looked very sad. How was it? A sombre occasion?
I suspect both he and William are very worried about their mother but frankly it hardly inspired and needs to be slimmed down and maybe military uniforms dispensed with
Thus confirming the absurd level of influence of the Mail - yet again.
The Mail's campaign against Johnson lasted from Paterson, through sleaze and Partygate, up to the Ukraine War, and took in two separate editors. During that period the Labour lead was strong most of the time.
The Mail only turned on Starmer two weeks ago, properly for the first time. Now look what happens.
But in the last thread you told us that this was all great for Labour and the Tories were running scared?
Confused now
Not me. I've only put in a couple of comments on Beergate, and have been off the site for a few weeks.
We've now got some embarrassed looking guy in a really silly costume sitting in the back of a huge car thats all windows with a hat having the national anthem played to him.
If it upsets you so much why watch it
Upsets? Amuses! There is something profoundly silly about Pomp and Circumstance when it comes to the royal bit of the state.
I have great respect for the Queen and her traditions but that period of our history is coming to an end, and change will happen with demands for a lot smaller royal family and I have little doubt William and Kate will further modernise it with a lot less pomp and circumstance in the future
It is inevitable
I entirely agree. The Queen has been a wonderful servant for this country, but as her time comes to an end we have to Stop and Think about what we want going forward.
For a start, I expect Charles to declare soon after accession an age that he won't serve as King beyond - maybe 85 or 10 years after accession, whichever comes last.
We've now got some embarrassed looking guy in a really silly costume sitting in the back of a huge car thats all windows with a hat having the national anthem played to him.
If it upsets you so much why watch it
Upsets? Amuses! There is something profoundly silly about Pomp and Circumstance when it comes to the royal bit of the state.
I have great respect for the Queen and her traditions but that period of our history is coming to an end, and change will happen with demands for a lot smaller royal family and I have little doubt William and Kate will further modernise it with a lot less pomp and circumstance in the future
It is inevitable
With his wealth and expected future advances in healthcare it is quite possible Charles lives til about 2070......
The government can not make costs disappear. All the government can do is move costs from consumers to taxpayers and taxation is already at an historically high level. Responsibility for influencing inflation is with the independent Bank of England, but they can only have a marginal affect. Supply and demand will resolve the situation in the longer term.
A necessary condition for a peace agreement must surely be the repatriation of the huge number of abducted Ukrainians ?
Russia has deported more than 1,185 million people from Ukraine, including 200,000 children, since the start of the full-scale invasion of Ukraine, says Ombudswoman Lyudmila Denisova https://twitter.com/Hromadske/status/1523947789872418817
Nazi Germany was fond of stealing blond Eastern European kids, as well...
Putin's Russia is a global abomination. I do not see how we can ever make a compromised peace with it, whatever Macron says
The other comparison is of course Stalin, who forcibly displaced millions for his political ends. Fellow mass murderer Putin would probably be flattered by it.
I wonder if there is some deep, mysterious historical law, which says countries traumatised by war end up inflicting a version of that trauma on others
Israel springs to mind. Its treatment of Palestinians can sometimes resemble the Nazi treatment of Jews. Obviously not anywhere near as grotesque and evil - but there ARE echoes
Now we have Russia behaving like Nazi Germany in eastern Europe and Russia in WW2?
Hmm. Man hands on misery to man.....
Partly that, perhaps - but modern Russia has visited great brutality on occupied lands long before Hitler came on the scene. Well over a million Ukrainians died in their fight for independence after the First World War, for example. And a decade on, the Holodomor.
We've now got some embarrassed looking guy in a really silly costume sitting in the back of a huge car thats all windows with a hat having the national anthem played to him.
If it upsets you so much why watch it
Upsets? Amuses! There is something profoundly silly about Pomp and Circumstance when it comes to the royal bit of the state.
Oh come off it.
I'm a republican but lets be honest, all states have their own Pomp and Circumstance in such ceremonies.
The Americans have plenty of Pomp and Circumstance with the President's equivalent State of the Union speech and other set pieces.
The French have plenty of Pomp and Circumstance too in their Presidential set pieces.
Of all the reasons to be a republican, the lack of Pomp and Circumstance in republics is not one of them.
The French surround their President with as much pomp as any monarch, and he is the head of France's main chivalric order.
Yes, they aspire to be a presidential monarchy. And Macron literally lives in a palace
I don't see the point in having a monarchy unless you get the Pomp and Circumstance. I don't want King William to turn up for the Opening of Parliament on an e-scooter, in a hoody
Royalty is meant to brighten the day with horses and swords and carriages and crowns. It is theatre. It is MEANT to be a bit silly and different and charmingly archaic, while also knitting modern Britons back into our incredible history, because there is such a density of symbolism, speaking of different eras and epochs. Like the symbolic hunt for explosives under the Commons!
I love it. If you get rid of all that we might as well have a cheap, tedious euro-style president
Some very obvious condescension dripping from Charles's delivery of that speech, which I found quite funny. I think he's an SDP voter in his soul, which Thatch angrily considered that his mother was.
Some very obvious condescension dripping from Charles's delivery of that speech, which I found quite funny. I think he's an SDP voter in his soul, as Thatch said his mother was.
Thus confirming the absurd level of influence of the Mail - yet again.
The Mail's campaign against Johnson lasted from Paterson, through sleaze and Partygate, up to the Ukraine War, and took in two separate editors. During that period the Labour lead was strong most of the time.
The Mail only turned on Starmer two weeks ago, properly for the first time. Now look what happens.
But in the last thread you told us that this was all great for Labour and the Tories were running scared?
Confused now
Not me. I've only put in a couple of comments on Beergate, and have been off the site for a few weeks.
Thus confirming the absurd level of influence of the Mail - yet again.
The Mail's campaign against Johnson lasted from Paterson, through sleaze and Partygate, up to the Ukraine War, and took in two separate editors. During that period the Labour lead was strong most of the time.
The Mail only turned on Starmer two weeks ago, properly for the first time. Now look what happens.
But in the last thread you told us that this was all great for Labour and the Tories were running scared?
Confused now
Not me. I've only put in a couple of comments on Beergate, and have been off the site for a few weeks.
Some very obvious condescension dripping from Charles's delivery of that speech, which I found quite funny. I think he's an SDP voter in his soul, as Thatch said his mother was.
Green surely?
That's a point, but I expect their non-environmental stances would be a bit too radical for him.
Thus confirming the absurd level of influence of the Mail - yet again.
The Mail's campaign against Johnson lasted from Paterson, through sleaze and Partygate, up to the Ukraine War, and took in two separate editors. During that period the Labour lead was strong most of the time.
The Mail only turned on Starmer two weeks ago, properly for the first time. Now look what happens.
But in the last thread you told us that this was all great for Labour and the Tories were running scared?
Confused now
Not me. I've only put in a couple of comments on Beergate, and have been off the site for a few weeks.
Some very obvious condescension dripping from Charles's delivery of that speech, which I found quite funny. I think he's an SDP voter in his soul, which Thatch angrily considered that his mother was.
We've now got some embarrassed looking guy in a really silly costume sitting in the back of a huge car thats all windows with a hat having the national anthem played to him.
If it upsets you so much why watch it
Upsets? Amuses! There is something profoundly silly about Pomp and Circumstance when it comes to the royal bit of the state.
Oh come off it.
I'm a republican but lets be honest, all states have their own Pomp and Circumstance in such ceremonies.
The Americans have plenty of Pomp and Circumstance with the President's equivalent State of the Union speech and other set pieces.
The French have plenty of Pomp and Circumstance too in their Presidential set pieces.
Of all the reasons to be a republican, the lack of Pomp and Circumstance in republics is not one of them.
The French surround their President with as much pomp as any monarch, and he is the head of France's main chivalric order.
Yes, they aspire to be a presidential monarchy. And Macron literally lives in a palace
I don't see the point in having a monarchy unless you get the Pomp and Circumstance. I don't want King William to turn up for the Opening of Parliament on an e-scooter, in a hoody
Royalty is meant to brighten the day with horses and swords and carriages and crowns. It is theatre. It is MEANT to be a bit silly and different and charmingly archaic, while also knitting modern Britons back into our incredible history, because there is such a density of symbolism, speaking of different eras and epochs. Like the symbolic hunt for explosives under the Commons!
I love it. If you get rid of all that we might as well have a cheap, tedious euro-style president
The genius of our constitutional monarchy is that it takes the worst aspects of celebrity out of the political process. The PM should be dull, smart and effective. They can be ugly and grey and out of Hello magazine.
That's the idea at least and one reason why Boris is such a bad fit for the role.
Thus confirming the absurd level of influence of the Mail - yet again.
The Mail's campaign against Johnson lasted from Paterson, through sleaze and Partygate, up to the Ukraine War, and took in two separate editors. During that period the Labour lead was strong most of the time.
The Mail only turned on Starmer two weeks ago, properly for the first time. Now look what happens.
But in the last thread you told us that this was all great for Labour and the Tories were running scared?
Confused now
That was about yesterday's news, not last week's, though. Check the dates for the fieldwork,
Before keir appointed himself the integritron but also mainly before the plod announced they were investigating the integritron
I approve. A simple system that delivers proportionality (when each constituency has enough seats).
Way, way better than STV.
A the danger of starting down a rabbit hole, I wholly disagree. D'Hondt gives far too much power to parties, and too little to voters. Simplicity isn't itself a virtue.
I approve. A simple system that delivers proportionality (when each constituency has enough seats).
Way, way better than STV.
A the danger of starting down a rabbit hole, I wholly disagree. D'Hondt gives far too much power to parties, and too little to voters. Simplicity isn't itself a virtue.
Reforms 4% might be crucial in a close election, they won't be fielding a full slate, if even half and I seriously doubt they'd get 4% nationally in a GE anyway. They are the NOTA/Brexit option and in the booth choices will be made
I approve. A simple system that delivers proportionality (when each constituency has enough seats).
Way, way better than STV.
Interesting quirk about the British-administered Northern Ireland election:
In no less than 12 of 18 of the five-seat constituencies, the top 5 first-preference candidates were elected.
it's not a quirk, that's what generally happens in the majority of constituencies. I saw an analysis of the Republic elections over the last few years and that was invariably the case.
We've now got some embarrassed looking guy in a really silly costume sitting in the back of a huge car thats all windows with a hat having the national anthem played to him.
If it upsets you so much why watch it
Upsets? Amuses! There is something profoundly silly about Pomp and Circumstance when it comes to the royal bit of the state.
Oh come off it.
I'm a republican but lets be honest, all states have their own Pomp and Circumstance in such ceremonies.
The Americans have plenty of Pomp and Circumstance with the President's equivalent State of the Union speech and other set pieces.
The French have plenty of Pomp and Circumstance too in their Presidential set pieces.
Of all the reasons to be a republican, the lack of Pomp and Circumstance in republics is not one of them.
The French surround their President with as much pomp as any monarch, and he is the head of France's main chivalric order.
Yes, they aspire to be a presidential monarchy. And Macron literally lives in a palace
I don't see the point in having a monarchy unless you get the Pomp and Circumstance. I don't want King William to turn up for the Opening of Parliament on an e-scooter, in a hoody
Royalty is meant to brighten the day with horses and swords and carriages and crowns. It is theatre. It is MEANT to be a bit silly and different and charmingly archaic, while also knitting modern Britons back into our incredible history, because there is such a density of symbolism, speaking of different eras and epochs. Like the symbolic hunt for explosives under the Commons!
I love it. If you get rid of all that we might as well have a cheap, tedious euro-style president
The genius of our constitutional monarchy is that it takes the worst aspects of celebrity out of the political process. The PM should be dull, smart and effective. They can be ugly and grey and out of Hello magazine.
That's the idea at least and one reason why Boris is such a bad fit for the role.
It’s also why Boris made an excellent London mayor and Sadiq Khan is so poor. The mayor is a figurehead. A kind of flamboyant monarch boosting the city, but without that much serious power or responsibility. Perfect role for Boris
I approve. A simple system that delivers proportionality (when each constituency has enough seats).
Way, way better than STV.
Interesting quirk about the British-administered Northern Ireland election:
In no less than 12 of 18 of the five-seat constituencies, the top 5 first-preference candidates were elected.
it's not a quirk, that's what generally matters in the majority of constituencies. I saw an analysis of the Republic elections over the last few years and that was invariably the case.
We've now got some embarrassed looking guy in a really silly costume sitting in the back of a huge car thats all windows with a hat having the national anthem played to him.
If it upsets you so much why watch it
Upsets? Amuses! There is something profoundly silly about Pomp and Circumstance when it comes to the royal bit of the state.
Oh come off it.
I'm a republican but lets be honest, all states have their own Pomp and Circumstance in such ceremonies.
The Americans have plenty of Pomp and Circumstance with the President's equivalent State of the Union speech and other set pieces.
The French have plenty of Pomp and Circumstance too in their Presidential set pieces.
Of all the reasons to be a republican, the lack of Pomp and Circumstance in republics is not one of them.
The French surround their President with as much pomp as any monarch, and he is the head of France's main chivalric order.
Yes, they aspire to be a presidential monarchy. And Macron literally lives in a palace
I don't see the point in having a monarchy unless you get the Pomp and Circumstance. I don't want King William to turn up for the Opening of Parliament on an e-scooter, in a hoody
Royalty is meant to brighten the day with horses and swords and carriages and crowns. It is theatre. It is MEANT to be a bit silly and different and charmingly archaic, while also knitting modern Britons back into our incredible history, because there is such a density of symbolism, speaking of different eras and epochs. Like the symbolic hunt for explosives under the Commons!
I love it. If you get rid of all that we might as well have a cheap, tedious euro-style president
The genius of our constitutional monarchy is that it takes the worst aspects of celebrity out of the political process. The PM should be dull, smart and effective. They can be ugly and grey and out of Hello magazine.
That's the idea at least and one reason why Boris is such a bad fit for the role.
We've now got some embarrassed looking guy in a really silly costume sitting in the back of a huge car thats all windows with a hat having the national anthem played to him.
If it upsets you so much why watch it
Upsets? Amuses! There is something profoundly silly about Pomp and Circumstance when it comes to the royal bit of the state.
The spell is definitely broken without Brenda. It becomes immediately apparent how banal and outdated the institution is.
We've now got some embarrassed looking guy in a really silly costume sitting in the back of a huge car thats all windows with a hat having the national anthem played to him.
If it upsets you so much why watch it
Upsets? Amuses! There is something profoundly silly about Pomp and Circumstance when it comes to the royal bit of the state.
Oh come off it.
I'm a republican but lets be honest, all states have their own Pomp and Circumstance in such ceremonies.
The Americans have plenty of Pomp and Circumstance with the President's equivalent State of the Union speech and other set pieces.
The French have plenty of Pomp and Circumstance too in their Presidential set pieces.
Of all the reasons to be a republican, the lack of Pomp and Circumstance in republics is not one of them.
The French surround their President with as much pomp as any monarch, and he is the head of France's main chivalric order.
Yes, they aspire to be a presidential monarchy. And Macron literally lives in a palace
I don't see the point in having a monarchy unless you get the Pomp and Circumstance. I don't want King William to turn up for the Opening of Parliament on an e-scooter, in a hoody
Royalty is meant to brighten the day with horses and swords and carriages and crowns. It is theatre. It is MEANT to be a bit silly and different and charmingly archaic, while also knitting modern Britons back into our incredible history, because there is such a density of symbolism, speaking of different eras and epochs. Like the symbolic hunt for explosives under the Commons!
I love it. If you get rid of all that we might as well have a cheap, tedious euro-style president
The genius of our constitutional monarchy is that it takes the worst aspects of celebrity out of the political process. The PM should be dull, smart and effective. They can be ugly and grey and out of Hello magazine.
That's the idea at least and one reason why Boris is such a bad fit for the role.
Except that ugly and grey politicians don't win elections.
I approve. A simple system that delivers proportionality (when each constituency has enough seats).
Way, way better than STV.
Interesting quirk about the British-administered Northern Ireland election:
In no less than 12 of 18 of the five-seat constituencies, the top 5 first-preference candidates were elected.
it's not a quirk, that's what generally matters in the majority of constituencies. I saw an analysis of the Republic elections over the last few years and that was invariably the case.
So why bother with STV?
Well for the reason that in the other 6 they were not.
Reforms 4% might be crucial in a close election, they won't be fielding a full slate, if even half and I seriously doubt they'd get 4% nationally in a GE anyway. They are the NOTA/Brexit option and in the booth choices will be made
Its funny Tice said on radio on Sunday he fully expects to field 600 plus at GE.
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At the height of Mailgate.
Russia has deported more than 1,185 million people from Ukraine, including 200,000 children, since the start of the full-scale invasion of Ukraine, says Ombudswoman Lyudmila Denisova
https://twitter.com/Hromadske/status/1523947789872418817
That’s a lot of Ukrainians.
One in five have heard a lot about "hikegate"
https://twitter.com/ChrisHopkins92/status/1523705515930398720
"The children the Nazis stole in Poland: Forgotten victims
"During World War II, the Nazis kidnapped tens of thousands of children and forcibly "Germanized" them. Afterward, they were left to grapple with their trauma alone. Now, a book and a documentary reveal their cruel fates."
https://www.dw.com/en/the-children-the-nazis-stole-in-poland-forgotten-victims/a-52739589
Putin's Russia is a global abomination. I do not see how we can ever make a compromised peace with it, whatever Macron says
I think a lot of people see the dull bureaucratic business style of newer Parliaments like the EU Parliament and the devolved assemblies and think that they're the norm when they're not.
Edit: Heh, Mexicanpete was thinking the same. Somewhat vindicated, of course, BigG
Of course we're also used to Holyrood, but that's got the opposite problem from FPTP anyway.
The Mail's campaign against Johnson started from Paterson, through sleaze and Partygate, until the Ukraine War, and took in two separate editors. During that period the Labour lead was strong most of the time.
The Mail only turned on Starmer two weeks ago, really significantly for the first time. Now look what happens.
Fellow mass murderer Putin would probably be flattered by it.
Confused now
It is inevitable
They're not leading the public, they're generally following it and recognising what its section of the public wants to hear.
Check the dates for the fieldwork,
The capital W confused me. I probably need to go sit by the pool and drink Raki
Haven’t we been told that this is the way to end all this peacefully?
Create some Serbian style facts on the ground. Then the vote. Then the returning people (if they return) don’t get voting cards. In their own land.
The idea that the press only follow opinion rather than also frame and form it is obvious nonsense.
I'm a republican but lets be honest, all states have their own Pomp and Circumstance in such ceremonies.
The Americans have plenty of Pomp and Circumstance with the President's equivalent State of the Union speech and other set pieces.
The French have plenty of Pomp and Circumstance too in their Presidential set pieces.
Of all the reasons to be a republican, the lack of Pomp and Circumstance in republics is not one of them.
Israel springs to mind. Its treatment of Palestinians can sometimes resemble the Nazi treatment of Jews. Obviously not anywhere near as grotesque and evil - but there ARE echoes
Now we have Russia behaving like Nazi Germany in eastern Europe and Russia in WW2?
Hmm. Man hands on misery to man.....
Johnson should have announced his snap election yesterday before Starmer's speech. An election means purdah for both Johnson and Starmer. I am not sure that six weeks of Johnson campaigning from a fridge against Starmer will look as good as Johnson campaigning from a fridge against a leaderless Labour Party or Jeremy Corbyn, which I guess is much the same thing.
Johnson does have a USP. Vote Conservative get Johnson, vote Labour get anyone but Starmer. Although that certainty may not be the vote winner it once was.
Sadly, you're probably right.
Well over a million Ukrainians died in their fight for independence after the First World War, for example. And a decade on, the Holodomor.
I don't see the point in having a monarchy unless you get the Pomp and Circumstance. I don't want King William to turn up for the Opening of Parliament on an e-scooter, in a hoody
Royalty is meant to brighten the day with horses and swords and carriages and crowns. It is theatre. It is MEANT to be a bit silly and different and charmingly archaic, while also knitting modern Britons back into our incredible history, because there is such a density of symbolism, speaking of different eras and epochs. Like the symbolic hunt for explosives under the Commons!
I love it. If you get rid of all that we might as well have a cheap, tedious euro-style president
I approve. A simple system that delivers proportionality (when each constituency has enough seats).
Way, way better than STV.
Byron loved it. For good reason
In no less than 12 of 18 of the five-seat constituencies, the top 5 first-preference candidates were elected.
The genius of our constitutional monarchy is that it takes the worst aspects of celebrity out of the political process. The PM should be dull, smart and effective. They can be ugly and grey and out of Hello magazine.
That's the idea at least and one reason why Boris is such a bad fit for the role.
It does make the next few polls interesting to see the trend
Latest Westminster voting intention (5-6 May)
Lab: 36% (-3 from 26-27 Apr)
Con: 35% (+2)
Lib Dem: 10% (-1)
Green: 8% (+2)
SNP: 5% (n/c)
Reform UK: 4% (+1)
Except for Major but he was against the windbag.
President Boris Johnson.