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  • TresTres Posts: 2,695
    rcs1000 said:

    Has anyone managed to get Wordle today?

    I'm five guesses in, and have only got one letter in the right place. (And I know two of the other letters, but I'm really struggling...)

    Six for me.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 41,958
    Dura_Ace said:

    Historically there's always been a fair amount of bullshit around fighter aces & their scores, I suspect things haven't changed.



    Two months to double Hawkeye Epstein's tally which was accrued over 40 years of service in the Israeli Air Force. Sounds completely believable.

    UkrAF are yet to break their duck aren't they? We haven't had one confirmed A2A kill yet.
    The piece says he died on 13th March so less than 3 weeks..

    It also mentions his helmet and goggles are going on auction in London. Presumably his spares rather than grisly relics?
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 41,958
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Has anyone managed to get Wordle today?

    I'm five guesses in, and have only got one letter in the right place. (And I know two of the other letters, but I'm really struggling...)

    5th try. Ya want a clue?
    Yes please :smile:
    Think of it as a stage in a process..
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,153

    Would be a real loss if @Gary_Burton isn't allowed back.

    Well, all he has to do is to acknowledge my message and he will be unbanned.

    Nothing more is required.
  • mwadamsmwadams Posts: 3,593
    rcs1000 said:

    Phew. Today's Wordle is hard.

    I flubbed it. I got https://wordle.louan.me/ and quordle though, so I'm not feeling too bad.
  • What does the British public think Parliament should do regarding party-gate?

    Move on to issues that directly affect voters: 46%
    Not move on until there are consequences: 43%

    The Tories are screwed.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,874
    Afternoon all :)

    Despite my best efforts, Labour out and about in East Ham High Street this morning - plenty of helpers, balloons and leaflets. I suspect some Council candidates will be in attendance shortly and perhaps the Mayor herself will grace us with her presence.
  • 🚨Met Police have confirmed an “investigation is ongoing” into alleged Covid law breaking at Tory HQ Xmas party in 2020.
    👀One of those present is standing as my local Tory candidate on May 5
    🥳This chap in the braces, lying on the floor + raising a wine glass, in Mirror pic 🧵

    Ah so this is why the Mail want Starmer on the front page
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,357
    Dura_Ace said:

    Historically there's always been a fair amount of bullshit around fighter aces & their scores, I suspect things haven't changed.



    Two months to double Hawkeye Epstein's tally which was accrued over 40 years of service in the Israeli Air Force. Sounds completely believable.

    UkrAF are yet to break their duck aren't they? We haven't had one confirmed A2A kill yet.
    I thought there was one dogfight video on twitter that the Ukrainian plane was said to have flown away from after downing the Russian, but I'm not sure how you'd be sure which side won from a phone camera video.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,561
    mwadams said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Phew. Today's Wordle is hard.

    I flubbed it. I got https://wordle.louan.me/ and quordle though, so I'm not feeling too bad.
    Took all six to get it.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    Wordle 315 5/6

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  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,153
    YES! Got Wordle.

    Tough. Tough. Tough.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,153
    rcs1000 said:

    YES! Got Wordle.

    Tough. Tough. Tough.

    Wordle 315 6/6

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  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 13,677

    Dura_Ace said:

    Historically there's always been a fair amount of bullshit around fighter aces & their scores, I suspect things haven't changed.



    Two months to double Hawkeye Epstein's tally which was accrued over 40 years of service in the Israeli Air Force. Sounds completely believable.

    UkrAF are yet to break their duck aren't they? We haven't had one confirmed A2A kill yet.
    The piece says he died on 13th March so less than 3 weeks..

    It also mentions his helmet and goggles are going on auction in London. Presumably his spares rather than grisly relics?
    Goggles? Did he further burnish his legend by getting his 40 kills in a Yak-3?
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,802
    Very impressed with The Dropout, they really got to the essence of the toxic startup cult of personality. In my sector I see founders all the time who build themselves up and have their employees put them on this huge pedestal and when they come to see us for investment we wonder what all the fuss is about.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Has anyone managed to get Wordle today?

    I'm five guesses in, and have only got one letter in the right place. (And I know two of the other letters, but I'm really struggling...)

    5th try. Ya want a clue?
    Yes please :smile:
    Think of it as a stage in a process..
    Psychopathic god incoming
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,715
    "...the Ohio primary will kick off a four-week period that will reveal much about Mr. Trump’s sway with the party — and just how transferable his continued popularity is to others. After Ohio, his preferred picks in Nebraska, West Virginia, Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Georgia will all be tested in heated primaries."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/30/us/politics/ohio-senate-primary-vance-trump.html
  • theProletheProle Posts: 1,206
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    YES! Got Wordle.

    Tough. Tough. Tough.

    Wordle 315 6/6

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    Wordle 315 4/6

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    Sorry, what was the fuss about? (used my usual starting word, playing hard mode)
  • Among those who voted Conservative in 2019 but would not currently vote Conservative, what is the most important reason they would no longer vote Conservative?

    The rising cost-of-living: 63%
    The partygate scandal: 31%

    End of days
  • Sky News understands Conservative MP Neil Parish, who's accused of watching pornography in the House of Commons, is likely to resign this afternoon

    By-election!!!
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,705

    Sky News understands Conservative MP Neil Parish, who's accused of watching pornography in the House of Commons, is likely to resign this afternoon

    By-election!!!

    Elections not erections, as the opposition slogan might be.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990
    Sky News understands Neil Parish is now likely to quit within hours after massive pressure from friends on him to step down

    The Tory “porn MP” has been told by allies his position untenable because of the way he kept quiet and allowed speculation form about Tory colleagues.

    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1520369150287306752
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,153
    theProle said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    YES! Got Wordle.

    Tough. Tough. Tough.

    Wordle 315 6/6

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    Wordle 315 4/6

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    Sorry, what was the fuss about? (used my usual starting word, playing hard mode)
    Well, I don't play hard mode, and only got the first letter on the last try.
  • Sky News understands Conservative MP Neil Parish, who's accused of watching pornography in the House of Commons, is likely to resign this afternoon

    By-election!!!

    Elections not erections, as the opposition slogan might be.
    By election by erection.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    theProle said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    YES! Got Wordle.

    Tough. Tough. Tough.

    Wordle 315 6/6

    ⬜🟨⬜⬜⬜
    ⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜
    ⬜⬜🟨🟨⬜
    ⬜🟩⬜⬜⬜
    🟨🟩🟨⬜⬜
    🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
    Wordle 315 4/6

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    Sorry, what was the fuss about? (used my usual starting word, playing hard mode)
    Porn Mr speaker? I was playing hard mode.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070
    Sandpit said:

    CD13 said:

    I've little legal knowledge, but I know we have some legal people on here. It seems a simple question but how can you increase the number or percentage of successful prosecutions for rape?

    Unlike other offences, there often is no independent forensic evidence. Most rapes are not stranger rapes (as far as I know). It often comes down to who the jury trusts most - weighing up the "he said" versus "she said". Unless we instruct the jury to beleve the woman as a routine. But surely that's against the principle of 'all equal before the law.'

    It's easy to demand a change but how would it be achieved?

    If the CPS take more marginal cases, the successful prosecution rate will decrease.

    The only thing that really springs to mind, is better equipment and training for police and medical facilities, alongside campaigns to encourage women who have been raped to present themselves to such a facility as soon as possible to document evidence.

    The fact is that a jury is unlikely to convict someone, of an offence for which the starting point is five years, without evidence of the crime having being committed.

    Anything else proposed, such as presumption of belief of one side of the story, or doing away with the jury, seem contrary to justice for the accused.
    That's not really true, though.
    For example, bringing cases to court within a year, rather than four, might make a significant difference.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    rcs1000 said:

    theProle said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    YES! Got Wordle.

    Tough. Tough. Tough.

    Wordle 315 6/6

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    Wordle 315 4/6

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    Sorry, what was the fuss about? (used my usual starting word, playing hard mode)
    Well, I don't play hard mode, and only got the first letter on the last try.
    I'm not convinced hard mode is not the more effective strategy for wordle, I tend to play as of it applied even if it doesn't. Quordle is different because it is so uninformative about the other 3 words (if hard mode is a thing in quordle)
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 13,677

    Sky News understands Conservative MP Neil Parish, who's accused of watching pornography in the House of Commons, is likely to resign this afternoon

    By-election!!!

    He looks like he's been on a bender with Adam Boulton and appears to be wearing some of sort of medieval tabard.


  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,175
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    YES! Got Wordle.

    Tough. Tough. Tough.

    Wordle 315 6/6

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    Piece of cake...

    Wordle 315 4/6

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  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 4,587
    Wordle 315 5/6

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    Pulled it out of the bag.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,502
    rcs1000 said:

    Would be a real loss if @Gary_Burton isn't allowed back.

    Well, all he has to do is to acknowledge my message and he will be unbanned.

    Nothing more is required.
    Seems an odd sort of bot, talking more political betting sense than the rest of us 🤭
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,153
    IshmaelZ said:

    rcs1000 said:

    theProle said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    YES! Got Wordle.

    Tough. Tough. Tough.

    Wordle 315 6/6

    ⬜🟨⬜⬜⬜
    ⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜
    ⬜⬜🟨🟨⬜
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    🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
    Wordle 315 4/6

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    🟩🟩⬛⬛⬛
    🟩🟩⬛⬛🟨
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    Sorry, what was the fuss about? (used my usual starting word, playing hard mode)
    Well, I don't play hard mode, and only got the first letter on the last try.
    I'm not convinced hard mode is not the more effective strategy for wordle, I tend to play as of it applied even if it doesn't. Quordle is different because it is so uninformative about the other 3 words (if hard mode is a thing in quordle)
    Hard mode can be a real pain if you've got (say) three of the five, but there are a dozen words that fit.

    Let's say you start with CRATE and you get XXATE.

    Yay! Just two to get, but it could be SLATE, GRATE, PLATE, ELATE, STATE, SPATE, etc. And if you don't get it, it's mostly just because there are a lot of words that end with ATE.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,083
    Scott_xP said:

    Sky News understands Neil Parish is now likely to quit within hours after massive pressure from friends on him to step down

    The Tory “porn MP” has been told by allies his position untenable because of the way he kept quiet and allowed speculation form about Tory colleagues.

    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1520369150287306752

    There was a time the government almost welcomed by-elections, counter to historical precedent though that was. Now it feels like they are both desperate to avoid them but unable to stem the flow of them, when you even have people like the execreble Paterson quitting even when he hadn't needed to.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,748
    Scott_xP said:

    Sky News understands Neil Parish is now likely to quit within hours after massive pressure from friends on him to step down

    The Tory “porn MP” has been told by allies his position untenable because of the way he kept quiet and allowed speculation form about Tory colleagues.

    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1520369150287306752

    Life's so unfair.

    Which of us can lay his hand on his heart and say we've never accidentally clicked on a porn site and failed to realise what we'd done after staring at the screen for several minutes?
  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,874
    Afternoon all :)

    To move on from Wordle to another pointless exercise, time to bring back the Stodge Saturday Patent - an exercise in futility if there ever was:

    Newmarket has the 2000 Guineas but the supporting card isn't that strong in terms of quality but a good number and selection of handicaps if that floats your boat.

    Nonetheless, I'll stay on the Cambridgeshire/Suffolk border for today's sure-fire losers:

    2.25 Newmarket: FAST MEDICINE
    3.40 Newmarket: LUXEMBOURG
    4.50 Newmarket: PRIVATE SIGNAL

    Try a 1-point Patent or just leave the money in the street.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,083

    Historically there's always been a fair amount of bullshit around fighter aces & their scores, I suspect things haven't changed.



    I will be shocked - shocked - if it turns out like all ghosts he never existed.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,386
    Chris said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Sky News understands Neil Parish is now likely to quit within hours after massive pressure from friends on him to step down

    The Tory “porn MP” has been told by allies his position untenable because of the way he kept quiet and allowed speculation form about Tory colleagues.

    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1520369150287306752

    Life's so unfair.

    Which of us can lay his hand on his heart and say we've never accidentally clicked on a porn site and failed to realise what we'd done after staring at the screen for several minutes?
    I suppose when sitting on the Tory front bench there may be so many dicks in your vicinity it's not easy to notice when one more has suddenly appeared.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,083
    Chris said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Sky News understands Neil Parish is now likely to quit within hours after massive pressure from friends on him to step down

    The Tory “porn MP” has been told by allies his position untenable because of the way he kept quiet and allowed speculation form about Tory colleagues.

    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1520369150287306752

    Life's so unfair.

    Which of us can lay his hand on his heart and say we've never accidentally clicked on a porn site and failed to realise what we'd done after staring at the screen for several minutes?
    He thought it was a french art film perhaps?
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,149
    theProle said:

    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    YES! Got Wordle.

    Tough. Tough. Tough.

    Wordle 315 6/6

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    Wordle 315 4/6

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    Sorry, what was the fuss about? (used my usual starting word, playing hard mode)
    Hmmm.

    Wordle 315 3/6

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  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,748
    ydoethur said:

    Chris said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Sky News understands Neil Parish is now likely to quit within hours after massive pressure from friends on him to step down

    The Tory “porn MP” has been told by allies his position untenable because of the way he kept quiet and allowed speculation form about Tory colleagues.

    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1520369150287306752

    Life's so unfair.

    Which of us can lay his hand on his heart and say we've never accidentally clicked on a porn site and failed to realise what we'd done after staring at the screen for several minutes?
    I suppose when sitting on the Tory front bench there may be so many dicks in your vicinity it's not easy to notice when one more has suddenly appeared.
    It's not as though he's a hypocrite. He's quite openly campaigned for rural broadband. Surely we are all men of the world and we know what that means in practice.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,826
    I don't particularly like this line that 'in any other workplace it's a sackable offence.' There is no MPs equivalent to a line manager or board. Suspend him from the Commons, fine.

    I think Parish would be best off speaking to his constituents who put him there. If they're a forgiving bunch he can carry on. If not he ought to go.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,432
    Chris said:

    ydoethur said:

    Chris said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Sky News understands Neil Parish is now likely to quit within hours after massive pressure from friends on him to step down

    The Tory “porn MP” has been told by allies his position untenable because of the way he kept quiet and allowed speculation form about Tory colleagues.

    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1520369150287306752

    Life's so unfair.

    Which of us can lay his hand on his heart and say we've never accidentally clicked on a porn site and failed to realise what we'd done after staring at the screen for several minutes?
    I suppose when sitting on the Tory front bench there may be so many dicks in your vicinity it's not easy to notice when one more has suddenly appeared.
    It's not as though he's a hypocrite. He's quite openly campaigned for rural broadband. Surely we are all men of the world and we know what that means in practice.
    A welcome respite break for sheep?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,433
    I'm astonished an elected MP would be so brazen as to actually watch pornography live in parliament, which is a public sphere and recorded on television.

    Resignation is the right decision. It was wholly inappropriate and clearly not a one off nor an accident.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,921
    edited April 2022

    HYUFD said:

    Survation Northern Ireland Assembly poll

    SF 22%
    DUP 20%
    Alliance 14%
    SDLP 13%
    UUP 10%
    TUV 6%
    https://twitter.com/dmcbfs/status/1520073611469590528?s=20&t=hRYMZefFxpyldajw7u2m1g

    It's interesting how consistent the DUP vote has been at 20% across all polls for a while which is why I struggle to see them avoiding losing at least 4 seats and remaining the largest party. This is actually a worse poll for unionism than the lucidtalk one as the DUP+UUP+TUV vote is only 36% here compared with 43% for lucidtalk (and most TUV voters will transfer to DUP anyway).

    I think the SDLP would be very happy with this poll if it actually materialised and they might even hang on in Lagan Valley at the expense of the UUP even at the same time as Alliance getting 2 seats and make surprise gains elsewhere like in Strangford.
    So if there are three unionists parties competing for votes, does the voting system allow them to gift crucial seats to the Nationalist leaning parties?

    Could TUV voters end up regretting not backing DUP?
    Not really as it is STV not FPTP.

    TUV voters not backing DUP is more an issue in terms of stopping SF becoming largest party.

    Transfers still splitting on Unionist and Nationalist lines

    https://twitter.com/LucidTalk/status/1520367778351493121?s=20&t=X0ubWVr0Pc0J2hA6ctd-Ew

    https://twitter.com/LucidTalk/status/1520367772647186432?s=20&t=X0ubWVr0Pc0J2hA6ctd-Ew

    https://twitter.com/LucidTalk/status/1520367766490042369?s=20&t=X0ubWVr0Pc0J2hA6ctd-Ew
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,911
    They say he's resigning this afternoon. I think it's ridiculously unfair.

    We've had a Minister of Health who was filmed with his hands around his assistant's bottom and his tongue down her throat at work. We've got a Home Secretary who has bullied and lied and held secret meetings with foreign powers. A Prime Minister who has lied to the House his staff his wife and has had an affair on a foreign trip with someone gifted £125,000 from the Mayor Boris Johnson's Office.....

    And MR Nobody gets the sack for looking at porn on his mobile

    You couldn't make it up.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,175

    I'm astonished an elected MP would be so brazen as to actually watch pornography live in parliament, which is a public sphere and recorded on television.

    Resignation is the right decision. It was wholly inappropriate and clearly not a one off nor an accident.

    Wait a minute, the pornography was made in parliament? :open_mouth:
  • Sky News understands Conservative MP Neil Parish, who's accused of watching pornography in the House of Commons, is likely to resign this afternoon

    By-election!!!

    Another LibDem gain in the offing.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,705
    Frankly we need to know exactly what porn he was watching, and then make a judgement on how good or bad his taste is first. (joke klaxon)
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,433
    Is now a bad time to point out that the Government haven't abandoned EU import checks (indeed, many are already in place and have been since last year) but have instead deferred the outstanding ones in a favour of a digitised approach towards the rest by the end of 2023?

    It's part of the broader 2025 Border Strategy for a smart digital border for all UK inward trade, including the UK single trade window as the gateway platform to manage it:

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-approach-to-import-controls-to-help-ease-cost-of-living
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,433
    tlg86 said:

    I'm astonished an elected MP would be so brazen as to actually watch pornography live in parliament, which is a public sphere and recorded on television.

    Resignation is the right decision. It was wholly inappropriate and clearly not a one off nor an accident.

    Wait a minute, the pornography was made in parliament? :open_mouth:
    There probably is a niche website out there somewhere that delivers that.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,874

    Sky News understands Conservative MP Neil Parish, who's accused of watching pornography in the House of Commons, is likely to resign this afternoon

    By-election!!!

    Another LibDem gain in the offing.
    I wouldn't start the expectations management game just yet. The LDs need a 23% swing to take the constituency which you may think is simple in the context of North Shropshire but no two constituencies are the same.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,175

    tlg86 said:

    I'm astonished an elected MP would be so brazen as to actually watch pornography live in parliament, which is a public sphere and recorded on television.

    Resignation is the right decision. It was wholly inappropriate and clearly not a one off nor an accident.

    Wait a minute, the pornography was made in parliament? :open_mouth:
    There probably is a niche website out there somewhere that delivers that.
    Chief Whip etc etc
  • stodge said:

    Sky News understands Conservative MP Neil Parish, who's accused of watching pornography in the House of Commons, is likely to resign this afternoon

    By-election!!!

    Another LibDem gain in the offing.
    I wouldn't start the expectations management game just yet. The LDs need a 23% swing to take the constituency which you may think is simple in the context of North Shropshire but no two constituencies are the same.
    Tough one, but definitely doable.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 13,677
    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    I'm astonished an elected MP would be so brazen as to actually watch pornography live in parliament, which is a public sphere and recorded on television.

    Resignation is the right decision. It was wholly inappropriate and clearly not a one off nor an accident.

    Wait a minute, the pornography was made in parliament? :open_mouth:
    There probably is a niche website out there somewhere that delivers that.
    Chief Whip etc etc
    Black Rod.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,557
    The Liberals were pretty strong in this constituency in the 1970s.

    October 1974 result in Tiverton:

    Con 46.7%, Lib 36.8%, Lab 16.5%

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiverton_(UK_Parliament_constituency)
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,175
    NEW THREAD
  • Roger said:

    They say he's resigning this afternoon. I think it's ridiculously unfair.

    We've had a Minister of Health who was filmed with his hands around his assistant's bottom and his tongue down her throat at work. We've got a Home Secretary who has bullied and lied and held secret meetings with foreign powers. A Prime Minister who has lied to the House his staff his wife and has had an affair on a foreign trip with someone gifted £125,000 from the Mayor Boris Johnson's Office.....

    And MR Nobody gets the sack for looking at porn on his mobile

    You couldn't make it up.

    Sorry, I don't agree, Rog.

    It's a sackable offence in most workplaces and everyone knows it. I know there are some technical issues in that MPs aren't employeed but the substance of the matter is that they have to accept the kind of rules and standards the rest of us are obliged to keep to.

    Incidentally, I suspect the devil may be in the detail. NickP reckons he was looking at it whilst chairing a Parliamentary Committee. That would certainly lessen any sympathy for him.

    I get where you are coming from. It's a fairly innocuous offence, but still can't see how MPs can expect to get away with that kind of thing.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,835
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    I don't particularly like this line that 'in any other workplace it's a sackable offence.' There is no MPs equivalent to a line manager or board. Suspend him from the Commons, fine.

    I think Parish would be best off speaking to his constituents who put him there. If they're a forgiving bunch he can carry on. If not he ought to go.

    Okay, MPs don't work for the Speaker. They're responsible to their constituents on your analysis. That makes them comparable to say IT contractors coming into an organization. An organization can discipline or even demand exclusion of offending contractors - potentially more severely than it treats its own staff. It can ban an offending contractor de jure or de facto by leaning on the contractor firm's management.

    And your analysis doesn't take into account the other contractors, eg. female Tory MPs, who rightly regard this sort of behaviour as outrageous disregard for their sensitivities.

    Remember, those issues have been flagged up in general long ago. So anyone wilfully persisting ...

    The Speaker's banning him from Pmt would be entirely justifiable. Which makes him unable to do his job, and means dismissal on any sane grounds.

    The 'workplace' rule of thumb is important because it's how normal people are used to operating. And there are issues of fairness, as with the repeated No 10 covid parties.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    Fuck I am disappointed by starmer and Rayner. Even if they were genuinely mistaken when they made the statement she wasn't there she must have read it and said yes I fucking was. Their USP for me began and ended with: not liars. Turns out they are, and stupid with it
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,058
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