JRM is an unthinking idiot. There's a vast array of jobs in the Civil Service; for some, attendance at the office is essential, for others, it's not - it depends on the precise role. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the changes brought about by the pandemic have increased productivity overall, and will also result in longer-term savings on office costs etc. as well.
For example, if you have a desk-based analytical job, you're likely to be more productive at home, avoiding office-based interruptions. I've a relation who's working on a major CS energy project - he reckons he gets 50% more work done at home than in the office (as well as the improvement in work-life balance by avoiding commuting). He goes in for face-to face meetings whenever necessary, maybe once a fortnight, with other business conducted remotely. I know that's anecdotal, but it's not untypical at all.
JRM is just a lightweight - pay him no mind!
Unfortunately he is not regarded as a lightweight by the PM, however.
Is the Moggster the only MP with as many children as Bozo?
How would we ever know?
Mogg did at least have his in wedlock with the same woman
What a shocking comment
Two of my grandchildren were born to our son and his partner before they married 10 years later
You are a narrow minded bigot
What was shocking about it.
Children are best brought up in families with married parents, all the statistics shows that gives them most stability. That is traditionally a standard Conservative view albeit I know you sometimes do not vote Conservative.
However it was particularly directed at the circumstances of your son's family, Mogg also has been married to one woman and not had any mistresses unlike his boss
Utter and complete rubbish and yes, you are a bigot
If I wanted to be a social liberal I would have joined Labour or the Liberal Democrats. I joined the Conservatives as I am a conservative and believe in the traditional family.
You throwing out abuse will not change that
Your beliefs do not equate to “all the statistics show”. Big_G is right, I think.
Children of parents who are single or cohabit are twice as likely not to graduate from high school according to a US study
… Because the study had recruited in big cities, many of the parents had lower incomes or levels of education and a high proportion were black or Hispanic American. This was important because of the challenges these fathers face with the police and justice systems, with about 40% of the unmarried fathers spending some time in prison.…
Show me a study which compares stable two parent families with the only differentiator being whether or not they are married. Preferably a UK study, since that’s where we live.
You can’t.
Your original claim was, as Big_G said, simply rubbish.
'All else equal, children raised in stable families are healthier, better educated, and more likely to avoid poverty than those who experience transitions in family structure."
'Married parents are more likely to stay together than cohabiting ones. In fact, two-thirds of cohabiting parents split up before their child reaches age 12, compared with one quarter of married parents'. Also offering children greater stability.'
My original claim stands absolutely, not just on education outcomes. Despite your and BigG's ideological liberalism and non conservatism
JRM is an unthinking idiot. There's a vast array of jobs in the Civil Service; for some, attendance at the office is essential, for others, it's not - it depends on the precise role. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the changes brought about by the pandemic have increased productivity overall, and will also result in longer-term savings on office costs etc. as well.
For example, if you have a desk-based analytical job, you're likely to be more productive at home, avoiding office-based interruptions. I've a relation who's working on a major CS energy project - he reckons he gets 50% more work done at home than in the office (as well as the improvement in work-life balance by avoiding commuting). He goes in for face-to face meetings whenever necessary, maybe once a fortnight, with other business conducted remotely. I know that's anecdotal, but it's not untypical at all.
JRM is just a lightweight - pay him no mind!
Unfortunately he is not regarded as a lightweight by the PM, however.
Is the Moggster the only MP with as many children as Bozo?
How would we ever know?
Mogg did at least have his in wedlock with the same woman
What a shocking comment
Two of my grandchildren were born to our son and his partner before they married 10 years later
You are a narrow minded bigot
What was shocking about it.
Children are best brought up in families with married parents, all the statistics shows that gives them most stability. That is traditionally a standard Conservative view albeit I know you sometimes do not vote Conservative.
However it was particularly directed at the circumstances of your son's family, Mogg also has been married to one woman and not had any mistresses unlike his boss
How do you know Mogg hasn't had any mistresses? People tend to keep quiet about such things.
Well if he has I have never heard a rumour of any.
As he is a strict Roman Catholic I would also not be surprised if his wife is the only woman he has ever slept with
Surely a man of a certain wealth and status keeps a mistress. Plus a couple of actresses on the side and the odd bit of whoring.
Not really very conservative are you?
That sounds more like a wealthy urban liberal or libertarian than a traditional rural based Conservative like Rees Mogg
This is another example where your brand of conservatism is way out of line with others'. You think conservatism is all about traditional values, but there are many who think it's about taking what you can. And there are more of them than you.
It also showed Libertarian Party supporters had more affairs than Republicans and Green voters also cheated a lot.
There are certainly far more traditional social conservative voters than libertarians
Never knew there was a little corner of it - Franklin, with Leiper’s Fork - which is one of the richest places in the USA. Justin Timberlake lives here
If you’re relying on younger people to turn out to vote then it’s an uphill struggle . Brexit won because older voters were more more anti EU . The situation is reversed in France with older people more pro EU and anti Le Pen .
Overall France is still clearly pro EU and Le Pen would have tanked if her platform was Frexit . She’s done her best to hide her hatred of the EU but it came to the fore many times during the debate .
JRM is an unthinking idiot. There's a vast array of jobs in the Civil Service; for some, attendance at the office is essential, for others, it's not - it depends on the precise role. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the changes brought about by the pandemic have increased productivity overall, and will also result in longer-term savings on office costs etc. as well.
For example, if you have a desk-based analytical job, you're likely to be more productive at home, avoiding office-based interruptions. I've a relation who's working on a major CS energy project - he reckons he gets 50% more work done at home than in the office (as well as the improvement in work-life balance by avoiding commuting). He goes in for face-to face meetings whenever necessary, maybe once a fortnight, with other business conducted remotely. I know that's anecdotal, but it's not untypical at all.
JRM is just a lightweight - pay him no mind!
Unfortunately he is not regarded as a lightweight by the PM, however.
Is the Moggster the only MP with as many children as Bozo?
How would we ever know?
Mogg did at least have his in wedlock with the same woman
What a shocking comment
Two of my grandchildren were born to our son and his partner before they married 10 years later
You are a narrow minded bigot
What was shocking about it.
Children are best brought up in families with married parents, all the statistics shows that gives them most stability. That is traditionally a standard Conservative view albeit I know you sometimes do not vote Conservative.
However it was particularly directed at the circumstances of your son's family, Mogg also has been married to one woman and not had any mistresses unlike his boss
Utter and complete rubbish and yes, you are a bigot
If I wanted to be a social liberal I would have joined Labour or the Liberal Democrats. I joined the Conservatives as I am a conservative and believe in the traditional family.
You throwing out abuse will not change that
Your beliefs do not equate to “all the statistics show”. Big_G is right, I think.
Children of parents who are single or cohabit are twice as likely not to graduate from high school according to a US study
… Because the study had recruited in big cities, many of the parents had lower incomes or levels of education and a high proportion were black or Hispanic American. This was important because of the challenges these fathers face with the police and justice systems, with about 40% of the unmarried fathers spending some time in prison.…
Show me a study which compares stable two parent families with the only differentiator being whether or not they are married. Preferably a UK study, since that’s where we live.
You can’t.
Your original claim was, as Big_G said, simply rubbish.
'All else equal, children raised in stable families are healthier, better educated, and more likely to avoid poverty than those who experience transitions in family structure."
'Married parents are more likely to stay together than cohabiting ones. In fact, two-thirds of cohabiting parents split up before their child reaches age 12, compared with one quarter of married parents'. Also offering children greater stability.'
My original claim stands absolutely, not just on education outcomes. Despite your and BigG's ideological liberalism and non conservatism
"Promoting marriage will not necessarily promote stability, though, even if such promotion is possible. Previous efforts at marriage promotion have been largely unsuccessful" Oh dear, HYUFD
"Higher tax credits and higher minimum wages would boost incomes among cohabiting and single-parent homes." Socialism!
"Most importantly, reducing rates of unintended pregnancies and births would ensure that more parents were prepared for the responsibilities and rigors of parenthood." Pro-abortion
"The policy priority here is to improve access to and use of contraception" You're off to Catholic Hell
JRM is an unthinking idiot. There's a vast array of jobs in the Civil Service; for some, attendance at the office is essential, for others, it's not - it depends on the precise role. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the changes brought about by the pandemic have increased productivity overall, and will also result in longer-term savings on office costs etc. as well.
For example, if you have a desk-based analytical job, you're likely to be more productive at home, avoiding office-based interruptions. I've a relation who's working on a major CS energy project - he reckons he gets 50% more work done at home than in the office (as well as the improvement in work-life balance by avoiding commuting). He goes in for face-to face meetings whenever necessary, maybe once a fortnight, with other business conducted remotely. I know that's anecdotal, but it's not untypical at all.
JRM is just a lightweight - pay him no mind!
Unfortunately he is not regarded as a lightweight by the PM, however.
Is the Moggster the only MP with as many children as Bozo?
How would we ever know?
Mogg did at least have his in wedlock with the same woman
What a shocking comment
Two of my grandchildren were born to our son and his partner before they married 10 years later
You are a narrow minded bigot
What was shocking about it.
Children are best brought up in families with married parents, all the statistics shows that gives them most stability. That is traditionally a standard Conservative view albeit I know you sometimes do not vote Conservative.
However it was particularly directed at the circumstances of your son's family, Mogg also has been married to one woman and not had any mistresses unlike his boss
Utter and complete rubbish and yes, you are a bigot
If I wanted to be a social liberal I would have joined Labour or the Liberal Democrats. I joined the Conservatives as I am a conservative and believe in the traditional family.
You throwing out abuse will not change that
Your beliefs do not equate to “all the statistics show”. Big_G is right, I think.
Children of parents who are single or cohabit are twice as likely not to graduate from high school according to a US study
JRM is an unthinking idiot. There's a vast array of jobs in the Civil Service; for some, attendance at the office is essential, for others, it's not - it depends on the precise role. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the changes brought about by the pandemic have increased productivity overall, and will also result in longer-term savings on office costs etc. as well.
For example, if you have a desk-based analytical job, you're likely to be more productive at home, avoiding office-based interruptions. I've a relation who's working on a major CS energy project - he reckons he gets 50% more work done at home than in the office (as well as the improvement in work-life balance by avoiding commuting). He goes in for face-to face meetings whenever necessary, maybe once a fortnight, with other business conducted remotely. I know that's anecdotal, but it's not untypical at all.
JRM is just a lightweight - pay him no mind!
Unfortunately he is not regarded as a lightweight by the PM, however.
Is the Moggster the only MP with as many children as Bozo?
How would we ever know?
Mogg did at least have his in wedlock with the same woman
What a shocking comment
Two of my grandchildren were born to our son and his partner before they married 10 years later
You are a narrow minded bigot
What was shocking about it.
Children are best brought up in families with married parents, all the statistics shows that gives them most stability. That is traditionally a standard Conservative view albeit I know you sometimes do not vote Conservative.
However it was particularly directed at the circumstances of your son's family, Mogg also has been married to one woman and not had any mistresses unlike his boss
How do you know Mogg hasn't had any mistresses? People tend to keep quiet about such things.
Well if he has I have never heard a rumour of any.
As he is a strict Roman Catholic I would also not be surprised if his wife is the only woman he has ever slept with
Surely a man of a certain wealth and status keeps a mistress. Plus a couple of actresses on the side and the odd bit of whoring.
Not really very conservative are you?
That sounds more like a wealthy urban liberal or libertarian than a traditional rural based Conservative like Rees Mogg
This is another example where your brand of conservatism is way out of line with others'. You think conservatism is all about traditional values, but there are many who think it's about taking what you can. And there are more of them than you.
It also showed Libertarian Party supporters had more affairs than Republicans and Green voters also cheated a lot.
There are certainly far more traditional social conservative voters than libertarians
Which is why Ashley Madison was so very, very busy!
JRM is an unthinking idiot. There's a vast array of jobs in the Civil Service; for some, attendance at the office is essential, for others, it's not - it depends on the precise role. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the changes brought about by the pandemic have increased productivity overall, and will also result in longer-term savings on office costs etc. as well.
For example, if you have a desk-based analytical job, you're likely to be more productive at home, avoiding office-based interruptions. I've a relation who's working on a major CS energy project - he reckons he gets 50% more work done at home than in the office (as well as the improvement in work-life balance by avoiding commuting). He goes in for face-to face meetings whenever necessary, maybe once a fortnight, with other business conducted remotely. I know that's anecdotal, but it's not untypical at all.
JRM is just a lightweight - pay him no mind!
Unfortunately he is not regarded as a lightweight by the PM, however.
Is the Moggster the only MP with as many children as Bozo?
How would we ever know?
Mogg did at least have his in wedlock with the same woman
What a shocking comment
Two of my grandchildren were born to our son and his partner before they married 10 years later
You are a narrow minded bigot
What was shocking about it.
Children are best brought up in families with married parents, all the statistics shows that gives them most stability. That is traditionally a standard Conservative view albeit I know you sometimes do not vote Conservative.
However it was particularly directed at the circumstances of your son's family, Mogg also has been married to one woman and not had any mistresses unlike his boss
Utter and complete rubbish and yes, you are a bigot
If I wanted to be a social liberal I would have joined Labour or the Liberal Democrats. I joined the Conservatives as I am a conservative and believe in the traditional family.
You throwing out abuse will not change that
Your beliefs do not equate to “all the statistics show”. Big_G is right, I think.
Children of parents who are single or cohabit are twice as likely not to graduate from high school according to a US study
… Because the study had recruited in big cities, many of the parents had lower incomes or levels of education and a high proportion were black or Hispanic American. This was important because of the challenges these fathers face with the police and justice systems, with about 40% of the unmarried fathers spending some time in prison.…
Show me a study which compares stable two parent families with the only differentiator being whether or not they are married. Preferably a UK study, since that’s where we live.
You can’t.
Your original claim was, as Big_G said, simply rubbish.
'All else equal, children raised in stable families are healthier, better educated, and more likely to avoid poverty than those who experience transitions in family structure."
'Married parents are more likely to stay together than cohabiting ones. In fact, two-thirds of cohabiting parents split up before their child reaches age 12, compared with one quarter of married parents'. Also offering children greater stability.'
My original claim stands absolutely, not just on education outcomes. Despite your and BigG's ideological liberalism and non conservatism
"Promoting marriage will not necessarily promote stability, though, even if such promotion is possible. Previous efforts at marriage promotion have been largely unsuccessful" Oh dear, HYUFD
"Higher tax credits and higher minimum wages would boost incomes among cohabiting and single-parent homes." Socialism!
"Most importantly, reducing rates of unintended pregnancies and births would ensure that more parents were prepared for the responsibilities and rigors of parenthood." Pro-abortion
"The policy priority here is to improve access to and use of contraception" You're off to Catholic Hell
Not necessarily not won't. A Conservative Party's duty is to promote marriage.
What they suggest leftwing parties do to increase incomes of non married couples is separate to what Conservatives should be doing to increase incomes of married couples.
Marriage reduces rates of unintended pregnancies without abortion.
I am not Catholic, I am not necessarily opposed to contraception.
JRM is an unthinking idiot. There's a vast array of jobs in the Civil Service; for some, attendance at the office is essential, for others, it's not - it depends on the precise role. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the changes brought about by the pandemic have increased productivity overall, and will also result in longer-term savings on office costs etc. as well.
For example, if you have a desk-based analytical job, you're likely to be more productive at home, avoiding office-based interruptions. I've a relation who's working on a major CS energy project - he reckons he gets 50% more work done at home than in the office (as well as the improvement in work-life balance by avoiding commuting). He goes in for face-to face meetings whenever necessary, maybe once a fortnight, with other business conducted remotely. I know that's anecdotal, but it's not untypical at all.
JRM is just a lightweight - pay him no mind!
Unfortunately he is not regarded as a lightweight by the PM, however.
Is the Moggster the only MP with as many children as Bozo?
How would we ever know?
Mogg did at least have his in wedlock with the same woman
What a shocking comment
Two of my grandchildren were born to our son and his partner before they married 10 years later
You are a narrow minded bigot
What was shocking about it.
Children are best brought up in families with married parents, all the statistics shows that gives them most stability. That is traditionally a standard Conservative view albeit I know you sometimes do not vote Conservative.
However it was particularly directed at the circumstances of your son's family, Mogg also has been married to one woman and not had any mistresses unlike his boss
How do you know Mogg hasn't had any mistresses? People tend to keep quiet about such things.
Well if he has I have never heard a rumour of any.
As he is a strict Roman Catholic I would also not be surprised if his wife is the only woman he has ever slept with
Surely a man of a certain wealth and status keeps a mistress. Plus a couple of actresses on the side and the odd bit of whoring.
Not really very conservative are you?
That sounds more like a wealthy urban liberal or libertarian than a traditional rural based Conservative like Rees Mogg
This is another example where your brand of conservatism is way out of line with others'. You think conservatism is all about traditional values, but there are many who think it's about taking what you can. And there are more of them than you.
It also showed Libertarian Party supporters had more affairs than Republicans and Green voters also cheated a lot.
There are certainly far more traditional social conservative voters than libertarians
Which is why Ashley Madison was so very, very busy!
Less than 1% of Americans were users of Ashley Madison on that survey, so the vast majority of Republican voters will not have used it. It had its most users in Democratic California.
Users also tended to be much wealthier than the average American, so no surprise most of them are wealthy libertarians. However libertarians are outnumbered by social conservatives in the Republican Party overall and indeed many libertarians now vote Libertarian Party anyway, not GOP
JRM is an unthinking idiot. There's a vast array of jobs in the Civil Service; for some, attendance at the office is essential, for others, it's not - it depends on the precise role. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the changes brought about by the pandemic have increased productivity overall, and will also result in longer-term savings on office costs etc. as well.
For example, if you have a desk-based analytical job, you're likely to be more productive at home, avoiding office-based interruptions. I've a relation who's working on a major CS energy project - he reckons he gets 50% more work done at home than in the office (as well as the improvement in work-life balance by avoiding commuting). He goes in for face-to face meetings whenever necessary, maybe once a fortnight, with other business conducted remotely. I know that's anecdotal, but it's not untypical at all.
JRM is just a lightweight - pay him no mind!
Unfortunately he is not regarded as a lightweight by the PM, however.
Is the Moggster the only MP with as many children as Bozo?
How would we ever know?
Mogg did at least have his in wedlock with the same woman
What a shocking comment
Two of my grandchildren were born to our son and his partner before they married 10 years later
You are a narrow minded bigot
What was shocking about it.
Children are best brought up in families with married parents, all the statistics shows that gives them most stability. That is traditionally a standard Conservative view albeit I know you sometimes do not vote Conservative.
However it was particularly directed at the circumstances of your son's family, Mogg also has been married to one woman and not had any mistresses unlike his boss
Utter and complete rubbish and yes, you are a bigot
If I wanted to be a social liberal I would have joined Labour or the Liberal Democrats. I joined the Conservatives as I am a conservative and believe in the traditional family.
You throwing out abuse will not change that
Your beliefs do not equate to “all the statistics show”. Big_G is right, I think.
Children of parents who are single or cohabit are twice as likely not to graduate from high school according to a US study
… Because the study had recruited in big cities, many of the parents had lower incomes or levels of education and a high proportion were black or Hispanic American. This was important because of the challenges these fathers face with the police and justice systems, with about 40% of the unmarried fathers spending some time in prison.…
Show me a study which compares stable two parent families with the only differentiator being whether or not they are married. Preferably a UK study, since that’s where we live.
You can’t.
Your original claim was, as Big_G said, simply rubbish.
'All else equal, children raised in stable families are healthier, better educated, and more likely to avoid poverty than those who experience transitions in family structure."
'Married parents are more likely to stay together than cohabiting ones. In fact, two-thirds of cohabiting parents split up before their child reaches age 12, compared with one quarter of married parents'. Also offering children greater stability.'
My original claim stands absolutely, not just on education outcomes. Despite your and BigG's ideological liberalism and non conservatism
"Promoting marriage will not necessarily promote stability, though, even if such promotion is possible. Previous efforts at marriage promotion have been largely unsuccessful" Oh dear, HYUFD
"Higher tax credits and higher minimum wages would boost incomes among cohabiting and single-parent homes." Socialism!
"Most importantly, reducing rates of unintended pregnancies and births would ensure that more parents were prepared for the responsibilities and rigors of parenthood." Pro-abortion
"The policy priority here is to improve access to and use of contraception" You're off to Catholic Hell
Not necessarily not won't. A Conservative Party's duty is to promote marriage.
What they suggest leftwing parties do to increase incomes of non married couples is separate to what Conservatives should be doing to increase incomes of married couples.
Marriage reduces rates of unintended pregnancies without abortion.
I am not Catholic, I am not necessarily opposed to contraception.
I think you missed the heavily implication in there. I knew you would and that's why I bolded it. Saying "reducing unintended pregnancies and births" means stopping pregnancies happening AND stopping pregnancies that have happened.
You're literally sharing pro-abortion literature on here. I'm actually a little proud of you.
JRM is an unthinking idiot. There's a vast array of jobs in the Civil Service; for some, attendance at the office is essential, for others, it's not - it depends on the precise role. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the changes brought about by the pandemic have increased productivity overall, and will also result in longer-term savings on office costs etc. as well.
For example, if you have a desk-based analytical job, you're likely to be more productive at home, avoiding office-based interruptions. I've a relation who's working on a major CS energy project - he reckons he gets 50% more work done at home than in the office (as well as the improvement in work-life balance by avoiding commuting). He goes in for face-to face meetings whenever necessary, maybe once a fortnight, with other business conducted remotely. I know that's anecdotal, but it's not untypical at all.
JRM is just a lightweight - pay him no mind!
Unfortunately he is not regarded as a lightweight by the PM, however.
Is the Moggster the only MP with as many children as Bozo?
How would we ever know?
Mogg did at least have his in wedlock with the same woman
What a shocking comment
Two of my grandchildren were born to our son and his partner before they married 10 years later
You are a narrow minded bigot
What was shocking about it.
Children are best brought up in families with married parents, all the statistics shows that gives them most stability. That is traditionally a standard Conservative view albeit I know you sometimes do not vote Conservative.
However it was particularly directed at the circumstances of your son's family, Mogg also has been married to one woman and not had any mistresses unlike his boss
Utter and complete rubbish and yes, you are a bigot
If I wanted to be a social liberal I would have joined Labour or the Liberal Democrats. I joined the Conservatives as I am a conservative and believe in the traditional family.
You throwing out abuse will not change that
Your beliefs do not equate to “all the statistics show”. Big_G is right, I think.
Children of parents who are single or cohabit are twice as likely not to graduate from high school according to a US study
… Because the study had recruited in big cities, many of the parents had lower incomes or levels of education and a high proportion were black or Hispanic American. This was important because of the challenges these fathers face with the police and justice systems, with about 40% of the unmarried fathers spending some time in prison.…
Show me a study which compares stable two parent families with the only differentiator being whether or not they are married. Preferably a UK study, since that’s where we live.
You can’t.
Your original claim was, as Big_G said, simply rubbish.
'All else equal, children raised in stable families are healthier, better educated, and more likely to avoid poverty than those who experience transitions in family structure."
'Married parents are more likely to stay together than cohabiting ones. In fact, two-thirds of cohabiting parents split up before their child reaches age 12, compared with one quarter of married parents'. Also offering children greater stability.'
My original claim stands absolutely, not just on education outcomes. Despite your and BigG's ideological liberalism and non conservatism
"Promoting marriage will not necessarily promote stability, though, even if such promotion is possible. Previous efforts at marriage promotion have been largely unsuccessful" Oh dear, HYUFD
"Higher tax credits and higher minimum wages would boost incomes among cohabiting and single-parent homes." Socialism!
"Most importantly, reducing rates of unintended pregnancies and births would ensure that more parents were prepared for the responsibilities and rigors of parenthood." Pro-abortion
"The policy priority here is to improve access to and use of contraception" You're off to Catholic Hell
Not necessarily not won't. A Conservative Party's duty is to promote marriage.
What they suggest leftwing parties do to increase incomes of non married couples is separate to what Conservatives should be doing to increase incomes of married couples.
Marriage reduces rates of unintended pregnancies without abortion.
I am not Catholic, I am not necessarily opposed to contraception.
I think you missed the heavily implication in there. I knew you would and that's why I bolded it. Saying "reducing unintended pregnancies and births" means stopping pregnancies happening AND stopping pregnancies that have happened.
You're literally sharing pro-abortion literature on here. I'm actually a little proud of you.
Few conservatives in Britain are dogmatically anti-abortion in the way that American conservatives often are.
JRM is an unthinking idiot. There's a vast array of jobs in the Civil Service; for some, attendance at the office is essential, for others, it's not - it depends on the precise role. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the changes brought about by the pandemic have increased productivity overall, and will also result in longer-term savings on office costs etc. as well.
For example, if you have a desk-based analytical job, you're likely to be more productive at home, avoiding office-based interruptions. I've a relation who's working on a major CS energy project - he reckons he gets 50% more work done at home than in the office (as well as the improvement in work-life balance by avoiding commuting). He goes in for face-to face meetings whenever necessary, maybe once a fortnight, with other business conducted remotely. I know that's anecdotal, but it's not untypical at all.
JRM is just a lightweight - pay him no mind!
Unfortunately he is not regarded as a lightweight by the PM, however.
Is the Moggster the only MP with as many children as Bozo?
How would we ever know?
Mogg did at least have his in wedlock with the same woman
What a shocking comment
Two of my grandchildren were born to our son and his partner before they married 10 years later
You are a narrow minded bigot
What was shocking about it.
Children are best brought up in families with married parents, all the statistics shows that gives them most stability. That is traditionally a standard Conservative view albeit I know you sometimes do not vote Conservative.
However it was particularly directed at the circumstances of your son's family, Mogg also has been married to one woman and not had any mistresses unlike his boss
Utter and complete rubbish and yes, you are a bigot
If I wanted to be a social liberal I would have joined Labour or the Liberal Democrats. I joined the Conservatives as I am a conservative and believe in the traditional family.
You throwing out abuse will not change that
Your beliefs do not equate to “all the statistics show”. Big_G is right, I think.
Children of parents who are single or cohabit are twice as likely not to graduate from high school according to a US study
… Because the study had recruited in big cities, many of the parents had lower incomes or levels of education and a high proportion were black or Hispanic American. This was important because of the challenges these fathers face with the police and justice systems, with about 40% of the unmarried fathers spending some time in prison.…
Show me a study which compares stable two parent families with the only differentiator being whether or not they are married. Preferably a UK study, since that’s where we live.
You can’t.
Your original claim was, as Big_G said, simply rubbish.
'All else equal, children raised in stable families are healthier, better educated, and more likely to avoid poverty than those who experience transitions in family structure."
'Married parents are more likely to stay together than cohabiting ones. In fact, two-thirds of cohabiting parents split up before their child reaches age 12, compared with one quarter of married parents'. Also offering children greater stability.'
My original claim stands absolutely, not just on education outcomes. Despite your and BigG's ideological liberalism and non conservatism
"Promoting marriage will not necessarily promote stability, though, even if such promotion is possible. Previous efforts at marriage promotion have been largely unsuccessful" Oh dear, HYUFD
"Higher tax credits and higher minimum wages would boost incomes among cohabiting and single-parent homes." Socialism!
"Most importantly, reducing rates of unintended pregnancies and births would ensure that more parents were prepared for the responsibilities and rigors of parenthood." Pro-abortion
"The policy priority here is to improve access to and use of contraception" You're off to Catholic Hell
Not necessarily not won't. A Conservative Party's duty is to promote marriage.
What they suggest leftwing parties do to increase incomes of non married couples is separate to what Conservatives should be doing to increase incomes of married couples.
Marriage reduces rates of unintended pregnancies without abortion.
I am not Catholic, I am not necessarily opposed to contraception.
I think you missed the heavily implication in there. I knew you would and that's why I bolded it. Saying "reducing unintended pregnancies and births" means stopping pregnancies happening AND stopping pregnancies that have happened.
You're literally sharing pro-abortion literature on here. I'm actually a little proud of you.
Rubbish. It means supporting traditional marriage so couples intended to get married for the procreation of children, not having unplanned children through casual affairs and short term relationships.
You could achieve that even if abortion was illegal again
JRM is an unthinking idiot. There's a vast array of jobs in the Civil Service; for some, attendance at the office is essential, for others, it's not - it depends on the precise role. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the changes brought about by the pandemic have increased productivity overall, and will also result in longer-term savings on office costs etc. as well.
For example, if you have a desk-based analytical job, you're likely to be more productive at home, avoiding office-based interruptions. I've a relation who's working on a major CS energy project - he reckons he gets 50% more work done at home than in the office (as well as the improvement in work-life balance by avoiding commuting). He goes in for face-to face meetings whenever necessary, maybe once a fortnight, with other business conducted remotely. I know that's anecdotal, but it's not untypical at all.
JRM is just a lightweight - pay him no mind!
Unfortunately he is not regarded as a lightweight by the PM, however.
Is the Moggster the only MP with as many children as Bozo?
How would we ever know?
Mogg did at least have his in wedlock with the same woman
What a shocking comment
Two of my grandchildren were born to our son and his partner before they married 10 years later
You are a narrow minded bigot
What was shocking about it.
Children are best brought up in families with married parents, all the statistics shows that gives them most stability. That is traditionally a standard Conservative view albeit I know you sometimes do not vote Conservative.
However it was particularly directed at the circumstances of your son's family, Mogg also has been married to one woman and not had any mistresses unlike his boss
Utter and complete rubbish and yes, you are a bigot
If I wanted to be a social liberal I would have joined Labour or the Liberal Democrats. I joined the Conservatives as I am a conservative and believe in the traditional family.
You throwing out abuse will not change that
Your beliefs do not equate to “all the statistics show”. Big_G is right, I think.
Children of parents who are single or cohabit are twice as likely not to graduate from high school according to a US study
… Because the study had recruited in big cities, many of the parents had lower incomes or levels of education and a high proportion were black or Hispanic American. This was important because of the challenges these fathers face with the police and justice systems, with about 40% of the unmarried fathers spending some time in prison.…
Show me a study which compares stable two parent families with the only differentiator being whether or not they are married. Preferably a UK study, since that’s where we live.
You can’t.
Your original claim was, as Big_G said, simply rubbish.
'All else equal, children raised in stable families are healthier, better educated, and more likely to avoid poverty than those who experience transitions in family structure."
'Married parents are more likely to stay together than cohabiting ones. In fact, two-thirds of cohabiting parents split up before their child reaches age 12, compared with one quarter of married parents'. Also offering children greater stability.'
My original claim stands absolutely, not just on education outcomes. Despite your and BigG's ideological liberalism and non conservatism
"Promoting marriage will not necessarily promote stability, though, even if such promotion is possible. Previous efforts at marriage promotion have been largely unsuccessful" Oh dear, HYUFD
"Higher tax credits and higher minimum wages would boost incomes among cohabiting and single-parent homes." Socialism!
"Most importantly, reducing rates of unintended pregnancies and births would ensure that more parents were prepared for the responsibilities and rigors of parenthood." Pro-abortion
"The policy priority here is to improve access to and use of contraception" You're off to Catholic Hell
Not necessarily not won't. A Conservative Party's duty is to promote marriage.
What they suggest leftwing parties do to increase incomes of non married couples is separate to what Conservatives should be doing to increase incomes of married couples.
Marriage reduces rates of unintended pregnancies without abortion.
I am not Catholic, I am not necessarily opposed to contraception.
I think you missed the heavily implication in there. I knew you would and that's why I bolded it. Saying "reducing unintended pregnancies and births" means stopping pregnancies happening AND stopping pregnancies that have happened.
You're literally sharing pro-abortion literature on here. I'm actually a little proud of you.
Few conservatives in Britain are dogmatically anti-abortion in the way that American conservatives often are.
They are still more anti abortion than Labour and the LDs on average. Hence most Tory MPs voted against DIY abortion a few weeks ago while most Labour and LD MPs voted for it
JRM is an unthinking idiot. There's a vast array of jobs in the Civil Service; for some, attendance at the office is essential, for others, it's not - it depends on the precise role. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the changes brought about by the pandemic have increased productivity overall, and will also result in longer-term savings on office costs etc. as well.
For example, if you have a desk-based analytical job, you're likely to be more productive at home, avoiding office-based interruptions. I've a relation who's working on a major CS energy project - he reckons he gets 50% more work done at home than in the office (as well as the improvement in work-life balance by avoiding commuting). He goes in for face-to face meetings whenever necessary, maybe once a fortnight, with other business conducted remotely. I know that's anecdotal, but it's not untypical at all.
JRM is just a lightweight - pay him no mind!
Unfortunately he is not regarded as a lightweight by the PM, however.
Is the Moggster the only MP with as many children as Bozo?
How would we ever know?
Mogg did at least have his in wedlock with the same woman
What a shocking comment
Two of my grandchildren were born to our son and his partner before they married 10 years later
You are a narrow minded bigot
What was shocking about it.
Children are best brought up in families with married parents, all the statistics shows that gives them most stability. That is traditionally a standard Conservative view albeit I know you sometimes do not vote Conservative.
However it was particularly directed at the circumstances of your son's family, Mogg also has been married to one woman and not had any mistresses unlike his boss
How do you know Mogg hasn't had any mistresses? People tend to keep quiet about such things.
Well if he has I have never heard a rumour of any.
As he is a strict Roman Catholic I would also not be surprised if his wife is the only woman he has ever slept with
Surely a man of a certain wealth and status keeps a mistress. Plus a couple of actresses on the side and the odd bit of whoring.
Not really very conservative are you?
That sounds more like a wealthy urban liberal or libertarian than a traditional rural based Conservative like Rees Mogg
This is another example where your brand of conservatism is way out of line with others'. You think conservatism is all about traditional values, but there are many who think it's about taking what you can. And there are more of them than you.
It also showed Libertarian Party supporters had more affairs than Republicans and Green voters also cheated a lot.
There are certainly far more traditional social conservative voters than libertarians
Which is why Ashley Madison was so very, very busy!
Less than 1% of Americans were users of Ashley Madison on that survey, so the vast majority of Republican voters will not have used it. It had its most users in Democratic California.
Users also tended to be much wealthier than the average American, so no surprise most of them are wealthy libertarians. However libertarians are outnumbered by social conservatives in the Republican Party overall and indeed many libertarians now vote Libertarian Party anyway, not GOP
Ah ha! So you DO understand confounding variables after all! Sadly you followed it up with what appears to be a lie: "most of them are libertarians" seems false. Libertarians are more likely to sign up, but their baseline population is much smaller than Republicans. So if you'd logged on to AM and sought a seamy night of political debate, you'd likely end up with MAGA hat on your bedroom floor.
JRM is an unthinking idiot. There's a vast array of jobs in the Civil Service; for some, attendance at the office is essential, for others, it's not - it depends on the precise role. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the changes brought about by the pandemic have increased productivity overall, and will also result in longer-term savings on office costs etc. as well.
For example, if you have a desk-based analytical job, you're likely to be more productive at home, avoiding office-based interruptions. I've a relation who's working on a major CS energy project - he reckons he gets 50% more work done at home than in the office (as well as the improvement in work-life balance by avoiding commuting). He goes in for face-to face meetings whenever necessary, maybe once a fortnight, with other business conducted remotely. I know that's anecdotal, but it's not untypical at all.
JRM is just a lightweight - pay him no mind!
Unfortunately he is not regarded as a lightweight by the PM, however.
Is the Moggster the only MP with as many children as Bozo?
How would we ever know?
Mogg did at least have his in wedlock with the same woman
What a shocking comment
Two of my grandchildren were born to our son and his partner before they married 10 years later
You are a narrow minded bigot
What was shocking about it.
Children are best brought up in families with married parents, all the statistics shows that gives them most stability. That is traditionally a standard Conservative view albeit I know you sometimes do not vote Conservative.
However it was particularly directed at the circumstances of your son's family, Mogg also has been married to one woman and not had any mistresses unlike his boss
How do you know Mogg hasn't had any mistresses? People tend to keep quiet about such things.
Well if he has I have never heard a rumour of any.
As he is a strict Roman Catholic I would also not be surprised if his wife is the only woman he has ever slept with
Surely a man of a certain wealth and status keeps a mistress. Plus a couple of actresses on the side and the odd bit of whoring.
Not really very conservative are you?
That sounds more like a wealthy urban liberal or libertarian than a traditional rural based Conservative like Rees Mogg
This is another example where your brand of conservatism is way out of line with others'. You think conservatism is all about traditional values, but there are many who think it's about taking what you can. And there are more of them than you.
It also showed Libertarian Party supporters had more affairs than Republicans and Green voters also cheated a lot.
There are certainly far more traditional social conservative voters than libertarians
Which is why Ashley Madison was so very, very busy!
Less than 1% of Americans were users of Ashley Madison on that survey, so the vast majority of Republican voters will not have used it. It had its most users in Democratic California.
Users also tended to be much wealthier than the average American, so no surprise most of them are wealthy libertarians. However libertarians are outnumbered by social conservatives in the Republican Party overall and indeed many libertarians now vote Libertarian Party anyway, not GOP
Ah ha! So you DO understand confounding variables after all! Sadly you followed it up with what appears to be a lie: "most of them are libertarians" seems false. Libertarians are more likely to sign up, but their baseline population is much smaller than Republicans. So if you'd logged on to AM and sought a seamy night of political debate, you'd likely end up with MAGA hat on your bedroom floor.
JRM is an unthinking idiot. There's a vast array of jobs in the Civil Service; for some, attendance at the office is essential, for others, it's not - it depends on the precise role. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the changes brought about by the pandemic have increased productivity overall, and will also result in longer-term savings on office costs etc. as well.
For example, if you have a desk-based analytical job, you're likely to be more productive at home, avoiding office-based interruptions. I've a relation who's working on a major CS energy project - he reckons he gets 50% more work done at home than in the office (as well as the improvement in work-life balance by avoiding commuting). He goes in for face-to face meetings whenever necessary, maybe once a fortnight, with other business conducted remotely. I know that's anecdotal, but it's not untypical at all.
JRM is just a lightweight - pay him no mind!
Unfortunately he is not regarded as a lightweight by the PM, however.
Is the Moggster the only MP with as many children as Bozo?
How would we ever know?
Mogg did at least have his in wedlock with the same woman
What a shocking comment
Two of my grandchildren were born to our son and his partner before they married 10 years later
You are a narrow minded bigot
What was shocking about it.
Children are best brought up in families with married parents, all the statistics shows that gives them most stability. That is traditionally a standard Conservative view albeit I know you sometimes do not vote Conservative.
However it was particularly directed at the circumstances of your son's family, Mogg also has been married to one woman and not had any mistresses unlike his boss
Utter and complete rubbish and yes, you are a bigot
If I wanted to be a social liberal I would have joined Labour or the Liberal Democrats. I joined the Conservatives as I am a conservative and believe in the traditional family.
You throwing out abuse will not change that
Your beliefs do not equate to “all the statistics show”. Big_G is right, I think.
Children of parents who are single or cohabit are twice as likely not to graduate from high school according to a US study
… Because the study had recruited in big cities, many of the parents had lower incomes or levels of education and a high proportion were black or Hispanic American. This was important because of the challenges these fathers face with the police and justice systems, with about 40% of the unmarried fathers spending some time in prison.…
Show me a study which compares stable two parent families with the only differentiator being whether or not they are married. Preferably a UK study, since that’s where we live.
You can’t.
Your original claim was, as Big_G said, simply rubbish.
'All else equal, children raised in stable families are healthier, better educated, and more likely to avoid poverty than those who experience transitions in family structure."
'Married parents are more likely to stay together than cohabiting ones. In fact, two-thirds of cohabiting parents split up before their child reaches age 12, compared with one quarter of married parents'. Also offering children greater stability.'
My original claim stands absolutely, not just on education outcomes. Despite your and BigG's ideological liberalism and non conservatism
"Promoting marriage will not necessarily promote stability, though, even if such promotion is possible. Previous efforts at marriage promotion have been largely unsuccessful" Oh dear, HYUFD
"Higher tax credits and higher minimum wages would boost incomes among cohabiting and single-parent homes." Socialism!
"Most importantly, reducing rates of unintended pregnancies and births would ensure that more parents were prepared for the responsibilities and rigors of parenthood." Pro-abortion
"The policy priority here is to improve access to and use of contraception" You're off to Catholic Hell
Not necessarily not won't. A Conservative Party's duty is to promote marriage.
What they suggest leftwing parties do to increase incomes of non married couples is separate to what Conservatives should be doing to increase incomes of married couples.
Marriage reduces rates of unintended pregnancies without abortion.
I am not Catholic, I am not necessarily opposed to contraception.
I think you missed the heavily implication in there. I knew you would and that's why I bolded it. Saying "reducing unintended pregnancies and births" means stopping pregnancies happening AND stopping pregnancies that have happened.
You're literally sharing pro-abortion literature on here. I'm actually a little proud of you.
Rubbish. It means supporting traditional marriage so couples intended to get married for the procreation of children, not having unplanned children through casual affairs and short term relationships.
You could achieve that even if abortion was illegal again
Everything you've said applies to pregnancies. You can only get the "and births" part in there with... further intervention. Oh, you're so going to Catholic Hell.
JRM is an unthinking idiot. There's a vast array of jobs in the Civil Service; for some, attendance at the office is essential, for others, it's not - it depends on the precise role. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the changes brought about by the pandemic have increased productivity overall, and will also result in longer-term savings on office costs etc. as well.
For example, if you have a desk-based analytical job, you're likely to be more productive at home, avoiding office-based interruptions. I've a relation who's working on a major CS energy project - he reckons he gets 50% more work done at home than in the office (as well as the improvement in work-life balance by avoiding commuting). He goes in for face-to face meetings whenever necessary, maybe once a fortnight, with other business conducted remotely. I know that's anecdotal, but it's not untypical at all.
JRM is just a lightweight - pay him no mind!
Unfortunately he is not regarded as a lightweight by the PM, however.
Is the Moggster the only MP with as many children as Bozo?
How would we ever know?
Mogg did at least have his in wedlock with the same woman
What a shocking comment
Two of my grandchildren were born to our son and his partner before they married 10 years later
You are a narrow minded bigot
What was shocking about it.
Children are best brought up in families with married parents, all the statistics shows that gives them most stability. That is traditionally a standard Conservative view albeit I know you sometimes do not vote Conservative.
However it was particularly directed at the circumstances of your son's family, Mogg also has been married to one woman and not had any mistresses unlike his boss
How do you know Mogg hasn't had any mistresses? People tend to keep quiet about such things.
Well if he has I have never heard a rumour of any.
As he is a strict Roman Catholic I would also not be surprised if his wife is the only woman he has ever slept with
Surely a man of a certain wealth and status keeps a mistress. Plus a couple of actresses on the side and the odd bit of whoring.
Not really very conservative are you?
That sounds more like a wealthy urban liberal or libertarian than a traditional rural based Conservative like Rees Mogg
This is another example where your brand of conservatism is way out of line with others'. You think conservatism is all about traditional values, but there are many who think it's about taking what you can. And there are more of them than you.
It also showed Libertarian Party supporters had more affairs than Republicans and Green voters also cheated a lot.
There are certainly far more traditional social conservative voters than libertarians
Which is why Ashley Madison was so very, very busy!
Less than 1% of Americans were users of Ashley Madison on that survey, so the vast majority of Republican voters will not have used it. It had its most users in Democratic California.
Users also tended to be much wealthier than the average American, so no surprise most of them are wealthy libertarians. However libertarians are outnumbered by social conservatives in the Republican Party overall and indeed many libertarians now vote Libertarian Party anyway, not GOP
Ah ha! So you DO understand confounding variables after all! Sadly you followed it up with what appears to be a lie: "most of them are libertarians" seems false. Libertarians are more likely to sign up, but their baseline population is much smaller than Republicans. So if you'd logged on to AM and sought a seamy night of political debate, you'd likely end up with MAGA hat on your bedroom floor.
You have an ideological agenda, we know that.
However even you cannot ignore these lines from the very article you linked to 'Across the board, Libertarians made up the greatest proportion of Ashley Madison clients. In the four states that had Libertarians, namely California, Florida, Kansas and New York, about one in 250 of the site’s clients had registered as Libertarians.'
So registered supporters of the US Libertarian Party, not the Republican Party were the greatest users of Ashley Madison, we know that.
Given less than 1% of Americans use Ashley Madison, the vast majority of Republicans would also not use the site either. The social conservative majority of the GOP therefore would not have touched Ashley Madison with a bargepole, some libertarian Republicans maybe but they are increasingly being driven out of the GOP to the Libertarian Party anyway, on which point your whole argument falls apart
JRM is an unthinking idiot. There's a vast array of jobs in the Civil Service; for some, attendance at the office is essential, for others, it's not - it depends on the precise role. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the changes brought about by the pandemic have increased productivity overall, and will also result in longer-term savings on office costs etc. as well.
For example, if you have a desk-based analytical job, you're likely to be more productive at home, avoiding office-based interruptions. I've a relation who's working on a major CS energy project - he reckons he gets 50% more work done at home than in the office (as well as the improvement in work-life balance by avoiding commuting). He goes in for face-to face meetings whenever necessary, maybe once a fortnight, with other business conducted remotely. I know that's anecdotal, but it's not untypical at all.
JRM is just a lightweight - pay him no mind!
Unfortunately he is not regarded as a lightweight by the PM, however.
Is the Moggster the only MP with as many children as Bozo?
How would we ever know?
Mogg did at least have his in wedlock with the same woman
What a shocking comment
Two of my grandchildren were born to our son and his partner before they married 10 years later
You are a narrow minded bigot
What was shocking about it.
Children are best brought up in families with married parents, all the statistics shows that gives them most stability. That is traditionally a standard Conservative view albeit I know you sometimes do not vote Conservative.
However it was particularly directed at the circumstances of your son's family, Mogg also has been married to one woman and not had any mistresses unlike his boss
Utter and complete rubbish and yes, you are a bigot
If I wanted to be a social liberal I would have joined Labour or the Liberal Democrats. I joined the Conservatives as I am a conservative and believe in the traditional family.
You throwing out abuse will not change that
Your beliefs do not equate to “all the statistics show”. Big_G is right, I think.
Children of parents who are single or cohabit are twice as likely not to graduate from high school according to a US study
… Because the study had recruited in big cities, many of the parents had lower incomes or levels of education and a high proportion were black or Hispanic American. This was important because of the challenges these fathers face with the police and justice systems, with about 40% of the unmarried fathers spending some time in prison.…
Show me a study which compares stable two parent families with the only differentiator being whether or not they are married. Preferably a UK study, since that’s where we live.
You can’t.
Your original claim was, as Big_G said, simply rubbish.
'All else equal, children raised in stable families are healthier, better educated, and more likely to avoid poverty than those who experience transitions in family structure."
'Married parents are more likely to stay together than cohabiting ones. In fact, two-thirds of cohabiting parents split up before their child reaches age 12, compared with one quarter of married parents'. Also offering children greater stability.'
My original claim stands absolutely, not just on education outcomes. Despite your and BigG's ideological liberalism and non conservatism
"Promoting marriage will not necessarily promote stability, though, even if such promotion is possible. Previous efforts at marriage promotion have been largely unsuccessful" Oh dear, HYUFD
"Higher tax credits and higher minimum wages would boost incomes among cohabiting and single-parent homes." Socialism!
"Most importantly, reducing rates of unintended pregnancies and births would ensure that more parents were prepared for the responsibilities and rigors of parenthood." Pro-abortion
"The policy priority here is to improve access to and use of contraception" You're off to Catholic Hell
Not necessarily not won't. A Conservative Party's duty is to promote marriage.
What they suggest leftwing parties do to increase incomes of non married couples is separate to what Conservatives should be doing to increase incomes of married couples.
Marriage reduces rates of unintended pregnancies without abortion.
I am not Catholic, I am not necessarily opposed to contraception.
I think you missed the heavily implication in there. I knew you would and that's why I bolded it. Saying "reducing unintended pregnancies and births" means stopping pregnancies happening AND stopping pregnancies that have happened.
You're literally sharing pro-abortion literature on here. I'm actually a little proud of you.
Rubbish. It means supporting traditional marriage so couples intended to get married for the procreation of children, not having unplanned children through casual affairs and short term relationships.
You could achieve that even if abortion was illegal again
Everything you've said applies to pregnancies. You can only get the "and births" part in there with... further intervention. Oh, you're so going to Catholic Hell.
In which case your going to Hell fullstop, no passing Go.
And no, you could make abortion even illegal again and still reduce unplanned pregnancies by increasing marriage rates
JRM is an unthinking idiot. There's a vast array of jobs in the Civil Service; for some, attendance at the office is essential, for others, it's not - it depends on the precise role. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the changes brought about by the pandemic have increased productivity overall, and will also result in longer-term savings on office costs etc. as well.
For example, if you have a desk-based analytical job, you're likely to be more productive at home, avoiding office-based interruptions. I've a relation who's working on a major CS energy project - he reckons he gets 50% more work done at home than in the office (as well as the improvement in work-life balance by avoiding commuting). He goes in for face-to face meetings whenever necessary, maybe once a fortnight, with other business conducted remotely. I know that's anecdotal, but it's not untypical at all.
JRM is just a lightweight - pay him no mind!
Unfortunately he is not regarded as a lightweight by the PM, however.
Is the Moggster the only MP with as many children as Bozo?
How would we ever know?
Mogg did at least have his in wedlock with the same woman
What a shocking comment
Two of my grandchildren were born to our son and his partner before they married 10 years later
You are a narrow minded bigot
What was shocking about it.
Children are best brought up in families with married parents, all the statistics shows that gives them most stability. That is traditionally a standard Conservative view albeit I know you sometimes do not vote Conservative.
However it was particularly directed at the circumstances of your son's family, Mogg also has been married to one woman and not had any mistresses unlike his boss
Utter and complete rubbish and yes, you are a bigot
If I wanted to be a social liberal I would have joined Labour or the Liberal Democrats. I joined the Conservatives as I am a conservative and believe in the traditional family.
You throwing out abuse will not change that
Your beliefs do not equate to “all the statistics show”. Big_G is right, I think.
Children of parents who are single or cohabit are twice as likely not to graduate from high school according to a US study
… Because the study had recruited in big cities, many of the parents had lower incomes or levels of education and a high proportion were black or Hispanic American. This was important because of the challenges these fathers face with the police and justice systems, with about 40% of the unmarried fathers spending some time in prison.…
Show me a study which compares stable two parent families with the only differentiator being whether or not they are married. Preferably a UK study, since that’s where we live.
You can’t.
Your original claim was, as Big_G said, simply rubbish.
'All else equal, children raised in stable families are healthier, better educated, and more likely to avoid poverty than those who experience transitions in family structure."
'Married parents are more likely to stay together than cohabiting ones. In fact, two-thirds of cohabiting parents split up before their child reaches age 12, compared with one quarter of married parents'. Also offering children greater stability.'
My original claim stands absolutely, not just on education outcomes. Despite your and BigG's ideological liberalism and non conservatism
"Promoting marriage will not necessarily promote stability, though, even if such promotion is possible. Previous efforts at marriage promotion have been largely unsuccessful" Oh dear, HYUFD
"Higher tax credits and higher minimum wages would boost incomes among cohabiting and single-parent homes." Socialism!
"Most importantly, reducing rates of unintended pregnancies and births would ensure that more parents were prepared for the responsibilities and rigors of parenthood." Pro-abortion
"The policy priority here is to improve access to and use of contraception" You're off to Catholic Hell
Not necessarily not won't. A Conservative Party's duty is to promote marriage.
What they suggest leftwing parties do to increase incomes of non married couples is separate to what Conservatives should be doing to increase incomes of married couples.
Marriage reduces rates of unintended pregnancies without abortion.
I am not Catholic, I am not necessarily opposed to contraception.
I think you missed the heavily implication in there. I knew you would and that's why I bolded it. Saying "reducing unintended pregnancies and births" means stopping pregnancies happening AND stopping pregnancies that have happened.
You're literally sharing pro-abortion literature on here. I'm actually a little proud of you.
Rubbish. It means supporting traditional marriage so couples intended to get married for the procreation of children, not having unplanned children through casual affairs and short term relationships.
You could achieve that even if abortion was illegal again
Everything you've said applies to pregnancies. You can only get the "and births" part in there with... further intervention. Oh, you're so going to Catholic Hell.
In which case your going to Hell fullstop, no passing Go
The God YOU worship is the world's most prolific abortionist - He just calls it "miscarriage".
JRM is an unthinking idiot. There's a vast array of jobs in the Civil Service; for some, attendance at the office is essential, for others, it's not - it depends on the precise role. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the changes brought about by the pandemic have increased productivity overall, and will also result in longer-term savings on office costs etc. as well.
For example, if you have a desk-based analytical job, you're likely to be more productive at home, avoiding office-based interruptions. I've a relation who's working on a major CS energy project - he reckons he gets 50% more work done at home than in the office (as well as the improvement in work-life balance by avoiding commuting). He goes in for face-to face meetings whenever necessary, maybe once a fortnight, with other business conducted remotely. I know that's anecdotal, but it's not untypical at all.
JRM is just a lightweight - pay him no mind!
Unfortunately he is not regarded as a lightweight by the PM, however.
Is the Moggster the only MP with as many children as Bozo?
How would we ever know?
Mogg did at least have his in wedlock with the same woman
What a shocking comment
Two of my grandchildren were born to our son and his partner before they married 10 years later
You are a narrow minded bigot
What was shocking about it.
Children are best brought up in families with married parents, all the statistics shows that gives them most stability. That is traditionally a standard Conservative view albeit I know you sometimes do not vote Conservative.
However it was particularly directed at the circumstances of your son's family, Mogg also has been married to one woman and not had any mistresses unlike his boss
How do you know Mogg hasn't had any mistresses? People tend to keep quiet about such things.
Well if he has I have never heard a rumour of any.
As he is a strict Roman Catholic I would also not be surprised if his wife is the only woman he has ever slept with
Surely a man of a certain wealth and status keeps a mistress. Plus a couple of actresses on the side and the odd bit of whoring.
Not really very conservative are you?
That sounds more like a wealthy urban liberal or libertarian than a traditional rural based Conservative like Rees Mogg
This is another example where your brand of conservatism is way out of line with others'. You think conservatism is all about traditional values, but there are many who think it's about taking what you can. And there are more of them than you.
It also showed Libertarian Party supporters had more affairs than Republicans and Green voters also cheated a lot.
There are certainly far more traditional social conservative voters than libertarians
Which is why Ashley Madison was so very, very busy!
Less than 1% of Americans were users of Ashley Madison on that survey, so the vast majority of Republican voters will not have used it. It had its most users in Democratic California.
Users also tended to be much wealthier than the average American, so no surprise most of them are wealthy libertarians. However libertarians are outnumbered by social conservatives in the Republican Party overall and indeed many libertarians now vote Libertarian Party anyway, not GOP
Ah ha! So you DO understand confounding variables after all! Sadly you followed it up with what appears to be a lie: "most of them are libertarians" seems false. Libertarians are more likely to sign up, but their baseline population is much smaller than Republicans. So if you'd logged on to AM and sought a seamy night of political debate, you'd likely end up with MAGA hat on your bedroom floor.
You have an ideological agenda, we know that.
However even you cannot ignore these lines from the very article you linked to 'Across the board, Libertarians made up the greatest proportion of Ashley Madison clients. In the four states that had Libertarians, namely California, Florida, Kansas and New York, about one in 250 of the site’s clients had registered as Libertarians.'
So registered supporters of the US Libertarian Party, not the Republican Party were the greatest users of Ashley Madison, we know that.
Given less than 1% of Americans use Ashley Madison, the vast majority of Republicans would also not use the site either. The social conservative majority of the GOP therefore would not have touched Ashley Madison with a bargepole, some libertarian Republicans maybe but they are increasingly being driven out of the GOP to the Libertarian Party anyway, on which point your whole argument falls apart
Breaking news: there are more than four states in the USA
The GOP and its supporters only care about kids before they’re born. After that they don’t give a damn . The right to life mantra is laughable given how many people are murdered every year by guns , and the GOP continue to block sensible gun restrictions that most sane people would think shouldn’t be controversial .
The USA is in a terrible state , barring the solid blue states the rest are a backward cesspit of gun toting , anti-abortion nutjobs.
Even worse are the women who try to restrict other women’s rights to choose . No woman wants to have an abortion , it’s a last resort but the choice should always be a women’s to make .
The final French poll released by Ipsos Sopra-Steria is a large sample of 12,129 respondents .
Certain to vote was 7,549.
Fieldwork was just today .
Macron 56.5% Le Pen 43.5%
Full poll details are here. The only glimmer of hope for Le Pen is that 35% of people who say they will abstain or vote blanc say they may still change their mind.
JRM is an unthinking idiot. There's a vast array of jobs in the Civil Service; for some, attendance at the office is essential, for others, it's not - it depends on the precise role. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the changes brought about by the pandemic have increased productivity overall, and will also result in longer-term savings on office costs etc. as well.
For example, if you have a desk-based analytical job, you're likely to be more productive at home, avoiding office-based interruptions. I've a relation who's working on a major CS energy project - he reckons he gets 50% more work done at home than in the office (as well as the improvement in work-life balance by avoiding commuting). He goes in for face-to face meetings whenever necessary, maybe once a fortnight, with other business conducted remotely. I know that's anecdotal, but it's not untypical at all.
JRM is just a lightweight - pay him no mind!
Unfortunately he is not regarded as a lightweight by the PM, however.
Is the Moggster the only MP with as many children as Bozo?
How would we ever know?
Mogg did at least have his in wedlock with the same woman
What a shocking comment
Two of my grandchildren were born to our son and his partner before they married 10 years later
You are a narrow minded bigot
What was shocking about it.
Children are best brought up in families with married parents, all the statistics shows that gives them most stability. That is traditionally a standard Conservative view albeit I know you sometimes do not vote Conservative.
However it was particularly directed at the circumstances of your son's family, Mogg also has been married to one woman and not had any mistresses unlike his boss
How do you know Mogg hasn't had any mistresses? People tend to keep quiet about such things.
Well if he has I have never heard a rumour of any.
As he is a strict Roman Catholic I would also not be surprised if his wife is the only woman he has ever slept with
Surely a man of a certain wealth and status keeps a mistress. Plus a couple of actresses on the side and the odd bit of whoring.
Not really very conservative are you?
That sounds more like a wealthy urban liberal or libertarian than a traditional rural based Conservative like Rees Mogg
This is another example where your brand of conservatism is way out of line with others'. You think conservatism is all about traditional values, but there are many who think it's about taking what you can. And there are more of them than you.
It also showed Libertarian Party supporters had more affairs than Republicans and Green voters also cheated a lot.
There are certainly far more traditional social conservative voters than libertarians
Which is why Ashley Madison was so very, very busy!
Less than 1% of Americans were users of Ashley Madison on that survey, so the vast majority of Republican voters will not have used it. It had its most users in Democratic California.
Users also tended to be much wealthier than the average American, so no surprise most of them are wealthy libertarians. However libertarians are outnumbered by social conservatives in the Republican Party overall and indeed many libertarians now vote Libertarian Party anyway, not GOP
Ah ha! So you DO understand confounding variables after all! Sadly you followed it up with what appears to be a lie: "most of them are libertarians" seems false. Libertarians are more likely to sign up, but their baseline population is much smaller than Republicans. So if you'd logged on to AM and sought a seamy night of political debate, you'd likely end up with MAGA hat on your bedroom floor.
You have an ideological agenda, we know that.
However even you cannot ignore these lines from the very article you linked to 'Across the board, Libertarians made up the greatest proportion of Ashley Madison clients. In the four states that had Libertarians, namely California, Florida, Kansas and New York, about one in 250 of the site’s clients had registered as Libertarians.'
So registered supporters of the US Libertarian Party, not the Republican Party were the greatest users of Ashley Madison, we know that.
Given less than 1% of Americans use Ashley Madison, the vast majority of Republicans would also not use the site either. The social conservative majority of the GOP therefore would not have touched Ashley Madison with a bargepole, some libertarian Republicans maybe but they are increasingly being driven out of the GOP to the Libertarian Party anyway, on which point your whole argument falls apart
Breaking news: there are more than four states in the USA
The GOP and its supporters only care about kids before they’re born. After that they don’t give a damn . The right to life mantra is laughable given how many people are murdered every year by guns , and the GOP continue to block sensible gun restrictions that most sane people would think shouldn’t be controversial .
The USA is in a terrible state , barring the solid blue states the rest are a backward cesspit of gun toting , anti-abortion nutjobs.
Even worse are the women who try to restrict other women’s rights to choose . No woman wants to have an abortion , it’s a last resort but the choice should always be a women’s to make .
The unborn child must also be part of the equation too. If some conservative US states want to reverse the liberal tide of abortion on demand and tighten abortion restrictions that is their right to do so
It does seem as though the evidence of Russian atrocities around Kyiv was a turning point, and prompted the provision of a lot more heavy equipment to Ukraine. The situation might soon become a lot worse for Russian forces in Ukraine.
Some states do not allow abortion in cases of rape or incest . This to me is absolutely disgusting and a moral outrage.
Well don't move to Alabama then, simple answer
That was a rather flippant reply ignoring that women in those states are going to suffer dreadfully . Do you not understand the inhumanity of forcing a woman or girl who have been through a horrific trauma to then be told you must carry a child full term.
Some states do not allow abortion in cases of rape or incest . This to me is absolutely disgusting and a moral outrage.
Well don't move to Alabama then, simple answer
That was a rather flippant reply ignoring that women in those states are going to suffer dreadfully . Do you not understand the inhumanity of forcing a woman or girl who have been through a horrific trauma to then be told you must carry a child full term.
HYUFD hates women. Nobody who had a shred of respect for women would come out with a comment like that.
JRM is an unthinking idiot. There's a vast array of jobs in the Civil Service; for some, attendance at the office is essential, for others, it's not - it depends on the precise role. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the changes brought about by the pandemic have increased productivity overall, and will also result in longer-term savings on office costs etc. as well.
For example, if you have a desk-based analytical job, you're likely to be more productive at home, avoiding office-based interruptions. I've a relation who's working on a major CS energy project - he reckons he gets 50% more work done at home than in the office (as well as the improvement in work-life balance by avoiding commuting). He goes in for face-to face meetings whenever necessary, maybe once a fortnight, with other business conducted remotely. I know that's anecdotal, but it's not untypical at all.
JRM is just a lightweight - pay him no mind!
Unfortunately he is not regarded as a lightweight by the PM, however.
Is the Moggster the only MP with as many children as Bozo?
How would we ever know?
Mogg did at least have his in wedlock with the same woman
What a shocking comment
Two of my grandchildren were born to our son and his partner before they married 10 years later
You are a narrow minded bigot
What was shocking about it.
Children are best brought up in families with married parents, all the statistics shows that gives them most stability. That is traditionally a standard Conservative view albeit I know you sometimes do not vote Conservative.
However it was particularly directed at the circumstances of your son's family, Mogg also has been married to one woman and not had any mistresses unlike his boss
How do you know Mogg hasn't had any mistresses? People tend to keep quiet about such things.
Well if he has I have never heard a rumour of any.
As he is a strict Roman Catholic I would also not be surprised if his wife is the only woman he has ever slept with
Surely a man of a certain wealth and status keeps a mistress. Plus a couple of actresses on the side and the odd bit of whoring.
Not really very conservative are you?
That sounds more like a wealthy urban liberal or libertarian than a traditional rural based Conservative like Rees Mogg
This is another example where your brand of conservatism is way out of line with others'. You think conservatism is all about traditional values, but there are many who think it's about taking what you can. And there are more of them than you.
It also showed Libertarian Party supporters had more affairs than Republicans and Green voters also cheated a lot.
There are certainly far more traditional social conservative voters than libertarians
Which is why Ashley Madison was so very, very busy!
Less than 1% of Americans were users of Ashley Madison on that survey, so the vast majority of Republican voters will not have used it. It had its most users in Democratic California.
Users also tended to be much wealthier than the average American, so no surprise most of them are wealthy libertarians. However libertarians are outnumbered by social conservatives in the Republican Party overall and indeed many libertarians now vote Libertarian Party anyway, not GOP
Ah ha! So you DO understand confounding variables after all! Sadly you followed it up with what appears to be a lie: "most of them are libertarians" seems false. Libertarians are more likely to sign up, but their baseline population is much smaller than Republicans. So if you'd logged on to AM and sought a seamy night of political debate, you'd likely end up with MAGA hat on your bedroom floor.
You have an ideological agenda, we know that.
However even you cannot ignore these lines from the very article you linked to 'Across the board, Libertarians made up the greatest proportion of Ashley Madison clients. In the four states that had Libertarians, namely California, Florida, Kansas and New York, about one in 250 of the site’s clients had registered as Libertarians.'
So registered supporters of the US Libertarian Party, not the Republican Party were the greatest users of Ashley Madison, we know that.
Given less than 1% of Americans use Ashley Madison, the vast majority of Republicans would also not use the site either. The social conservative majority of the GOP therefore would not have touched Ashley Madison with a bargepole, some libertarian Republicans maybe but they are increasingly being driven out of the GOP to the Libertarian Party anyway, on which point your whole argument falls apart
You said:
about one in 250 of the site’s clients had registered as Libertarians.'
So registered supporters of the US Libertarian Party, not the Republican Party were the greatest users of Ashley Madison, we know that.
What. The. Actual. Fuck.
0.4% of Ashley Madison users were Registered Libertarians on the numbers you posted.
It is almost inconceivable that they outnumbered Republicans or Democrats.
JRM is an unthinking idiot. There's a vast array of jobs in the Civil Service; for some, attendance at the office is essential, for others, it's not - it depends on the precise role. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the changes brought about by the pandemic have increased productivity overall, and will also result in longer-term savings on office costs etc. as well.
For example, if you have a desk-based analytical job, you're likely to be more productive at home, avoiding office-based interruptions. I've a relation who's working on a major CS energy project - he reckons he gets 50% more work done at home than in the office (as well as the improvement in work-life balance by avoiding commuting). He goes in for face-to face meetings whenever necessary, maybe once a fortnight, with other business conducted remotely. I know that's anecdotal, but it's not untypical at all.
JRM is just a lightweight - pay him no mind!
Unfortunately he is not regarded as a lightweight by the PM, however.
Is the Moggster the only MP with as many children as Bozo?
How would we ever know?
Mogg did at least have his in wedlock with the same woman
What a shocking comment
Two of my grandchildren were born to our son and his partner before they married 10 years later
You are a narrow minded bigot
What was shocking about it.
Children are best brought up in families with married parents, all the statistics shows that gives them most stability. That is traditionally a standard Conservative view albeit I know you sometimes do not vote Conservative.
However it was particularly directed at the circumstances of your son's family, Mogg also has been married to one woman and not had any mistresses unlike his boss
How do you know Mogg hasn't had any mistresses? People tend to keep quiet about such things.
Well if he has I have never heard a rumour of any.
As he is a strict Roman Catholic I would also not be surprised if his wife is the only woman he has ever slept with
Surely a man of a certain wealth and status keeps a mistress. Plus a couple of actresses on the side and the odd bit of whoring.
Not really very conservative are you?
That sounds more like a wealthy urban liberal or libertarian than a traditional rural based Conservative like Rees Mogg
This is another example where your brand of conservatism is way out of line with others'. You think conservatism is all about traditional values, but there are many who think it's about taking what you can. And there are more of them than you.
It also showed Libertarian Party supporters had more affairs than Republicans and Green voters also cheated a lot.
There are certainly far more traditional social conservative voters than libertarians
Which is why Ashley Madison was so very, very busy!
Less than 1% of Americans were users of Ashley Madison on that survey, so the vast majority of Republican voters will not have used it. It had its most users in Democratic California.
Users also tended to be much wealthier than the average American, so no surprise most of them are wealthy libertarians. However libertarians are outnumbered by social conservatives in the Republican Party overall and indeed many libertarians now vote Libertarian Party anyway, not GOP
Ah ha! So you DO understand confounding variables after all! Sadly you followed it up with what appears to be a lie: "most of them are libertarians" seems false. Libertarians are more likely to sign up, but their baseline population is much smaller than Republicans. So if you'd logged on to AM and sought a seamy night of political debate, you'd likely end up with MAGA hat on your bedroom floor.
You have an ideological agenda, we know that.
However even you cannot ignore these lines from the very article you linked to 'Across the board, Libertarians made up the greatest proportion of Ashley Madison clients. In the four states that had Libertarians, namely California, Florida, Kansas and New York, about one in 250 of the site’s clients had registered as Libertarians.'
So registered supporters of the US Libertarian Party, not the Republican Party were the greatest users of Ashley Madison, we know that.
Given less than 1% of Americans use Ashley Madison, the vast majority of Republicans would also not use the site either. The social conservative majority of the GOP therefore would not have touched Ashley Madison with a bargepole, some libertarian Republicans maybe but they are increasingly being driven out of the GOP to the Libertarian Party anyway, on which point your whole argument falls apart
You said:
about one in 250 of the site’s clients had registered as Libertarians.'
So registered supporters of the US Libertarian Party, not the Republican Party were the greatest users of Ashley Madison, we know that.
What. The. Actual. Fuck.
0.4% of Ashley Madison users were Registered Libertarians on the numbers you posted.
It is almost inconceivable that they outnumbered Republicans or Democrats.
That is one in 250 registered Libertarians had an account compared to one in 560 registered voters overall
Some states do not allow abortion in cases of rape or incest . This to me is absolutely disgusting and a moral outrage.
Well don't move to Alabama then, simple answer
That was a rather flippant reply ignoring that women in those states are going to suffer dreadfully . Do you not understand the inhumanity of forcing a woman or girl who have been through a horrific trauma to then be told you must carry a child full term.
HYUFD hates women. Nobody who had a shred of respect for women would come out with a comment like that.
No I respect the unborn child, unlike you.
If pro abortion on demand ideologues like you are no longer getting it all your own way, tough
JRM is an unthinking idiot. There's a vast array of jobs in the Civil Service; for some, attendance at the office is essential, for others, it's not - it depends on the precise role. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the changes brought about by the pandemic have increased productivity overall, and will also result in longer-term savings on office costs etc. as well.
For example, if you have a desk-based analytical job, you're likely to be more productive at home, avoiding office-based interruptions. I've a relation who's working on a major CS energy project - he reckons he gets 50% more work done at home than in the office (as well as the improvement in work-life balance by avoiding commuting). He goes in for face-to face meetings whenever necessary, maybe once a fortnight, with other business conducted remotely. I know that's anecdotal, but it's not untypical at all.
JRM is just a lightweight - pay him no mind!
Unfortunately he is not regarded as a lightweight by the PM, however.
Is the Moggster the only MP with as many children as Bozo?
How would we ever know?
Mogg did at least have his in wedlock with the same woman
What a shocking comment
Two of my grandchildren were born to our son and his partner before they married 10 years later
You are a narrow minded bigot
What was shocking about it.
Children are best brought up in families with married parents, all the statistics shows that gives them most stability. That is traditionally a standard Conservative view albeit I know you sometimes do not vote Conservative.
However it was particularly directed at the circumstances of your son's family, Mogg also has been married to one woman and not had any mistresses unlike his boss
How do you know Mogg hasn't had any mistresses? People tend to keep quiet about such things.
Well if he has I have never heard a rumour of any.
As he is a strict Roman Catholic I would also not be surprised if his wife is the only woman he has ever slept with
Surely a man of a certain wealth and status keeps a mistress. Plus a couple of actresses on the side and the odd bit of whoring.
Not really very conservative are you?
That sounds more like a wealthy urban liberal or libertarian than a traditional rural based Conservative like Rees Mogg
This is another example where your brand of conservatism is way out of line with others'. You think conservatism is all about traditional values, but there are many who think it's about taking what you can. And there are more of them than you.
It also showed Libertarian Party supporters had more affairs than Republicans and Green voters also cheated a lot.
There are certainly far more traditional social conservative voters than libertarians
Which is why Ashley Madison was so very, very busy!
Less than 1% of Americans were users of Ashley Madison on that survey, so the vast majority of Republican voters will not have used it. It had its most users in Democratic California.
Users also tended to be much wealthier than the average American, so no surprise most of them are wealthy libertarians. However libertarians are outnumbered by social conservatives in the Republican Party overall and indeed many libertarians now vote Libertarian Party anyway, not GOP
Ah ha! So you DO understand confounding variables after all! Sadly you followed it up with what appears to be a lie: "most of them are libertarians" seems false. Libertarians are more likely to sign up, but their baseline population is much smaller than Republicans. So if you'd logged on to AM and sought a seamy night of political debate, you'd likely end up with MAGA hat on your bedroom floor.
You have an ideological agenda, we know that.
However even you cannot ignore these lines from the very article you linked to 'Across the board, Libertarians made up the greatest proportion of Ashley Madison clients. In the four states that had Libertarians, namely California, Florida, Kansas and New York, about one in 250 of the site’s clients had registered as Libertarians.'
So registered supporters of the US Libertarian Party, not the Republican Party were the greatest users of Ashley Madison, we know that.
Given less than 1% of Americans use Ashley Madison, the vast majority of Republicans would also not use the site either. The social conservative majority of the GOP therefore would not have touched Ashley Madison with a bargepole, some libertarian Republicans maybe but they are increasingly being driven out of the GOP to the Libertarian Party anyway, on which point your whole argument falls apart
You said:
about one in 250 of the site’s clients had registered as Libertarians.'
So registered supporters of the US Libertarian Party, not the Republican Party were the greatest users of Ashley Madison, we know that.
What. The. Actual. Fuck.
0.4% of Ashley Madison users were Registered Libertarians on the numbers you posted.
It is almost inconceivable that they outnumbered Republicans or Democrats.
That is one in 250 registered Libertarians had an account compared to one in 560 registered voters overall
"about one in 250 of the site’s clients had registered as Libertarians" is not the same as "one in 250 registered Libertarians had an account"
JRM is an unthinking idiot. There's a vast array of jobs in the Civil Service; for some, attendance at the office is essential, for others, it's not - it depends on the precise role. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the changes brought about by the pandemic have increased productivity overall, and will also result in longer-term savings on office costs etc. as well.
For example, if you have a desk-based analytical job, you're likely to be more productive at home, avoiding office-based interruptions. I've a relation who's working on a major CS energy project - he reckons he gets 50% more work done at home than in the office (as well as the improvement in work-life balance by avoiding commuting). He goes in for face-to face meetings whenever necessary, maybe once a fortnight, with other business conducted remotely. I know that's anecdotal, but it's not untypical at all.
JRM is just a lightweight - pay him no mind!
Unfortunately he is not regarded as a lightweight by the PM, however.
Is the Moggster the only MP with as many children as Bozo?
How would we ever know?
Mogg did at least have his in wedlock with the same woman
What a shocking comment
Two of my grandchildren were born to our son and his partner before they married 10 years later
You are a narrow minded bigot
What was shocking about it.
Children are best brought up in families with married parents, all the statistics shows that gives them most stability. That is traditionally a standard Conservative view albeit I know you sometimes do not vote Conservative.
However it was particularly directed at the circumstances of your son's family, Mogg also has been married to one woman and not had any mistresses unlike his boss
How do you know Mogg hasn't had any mistresses? People tend to keep quiet about such things.
Well if he has I have never heard a rumour of any.
As he is a strict Roman Catholic I would also not be surprised if his wife is the only woman he has ever slept with
Surely a man of a certain wealth and status keeps a mistress. Plus a couple of actresses on the side and the odd bit of whoring.
Not really very conservative are you?
That sounds more like a wealthy urban liberal or libertarian than a traditional rural based Conservative like Rees Mogg
This is another example where your brand of conservatism is way out of line with others'. You think conservatism is all about traditional values, but there are many who think it's about taking what you can. And there are more of them than you.
It also showed Libertarian Party supporters had more affairs than Republicans and Green voters also cheated a lot.
There are certainly far more traditional social conservative voters than libertarians
Which is why Ashley Madison was so very, very busy!
Less than 1% of Americans were users of Ashley Madison on that survey, so the vast majority of Republican voters will not have used it. It had its most users in Democratic California.
Users also tended to be much wealthier than the average American, so no surprise most of them are wealthy libertarians. However libertarians are outnumbered by social conservatives in the Republican Party overall and indeed many libertarians now vote Libertarian Party anyway, not GOP
Ah ha! So you DO understand confounding variables after all! Sadly you followed it up with what appears to be a lie: "most of them are libertarians" seems false. Libertarians are more likely to sign up, but their baseline population is much smaller than Republicans. So if you'd logged on to AM and sought a seamy night of political debate, you'd likely end up with MAGA hat on your bedroom floor.
You have an ideological agenda, we know that.
However even you cannot ignore these lines from the very article you linked to 'Across the board, Libertarians made up the greatest proportion of Ashley Madison clients. In the four states that had Libertarians, namely California, Florida, Kansas and New York, about one in 250 of the site’s clients had registered as Libertarians.'
So registered supporters of the US Libertarian Party, not the Republican Party were the greatest users of Ashley Madison, we know that.
Given less than 1% of Americans use Ashley Madison, the vast majority of Republicans would also not use the site either. The social conservative majority of the GOP therefore would not have touched Ashley Madison with a bargepole, some libertarian Republicans maybe but they are increasingly being driven out of the GOP to the Libertarian Party anyway, on which point your whole argument falls apart
You said:
about one in 250 of the site’s clients had registered as Libertarians.'
So registered supporters of the US Libertarian Party, not the Republican Party were the greatest users of Ashley Madison, we know that.
What. The. Actual. Fuck.
0.4% of Ashley Madison users were Registered Libertarians on the numbers you posted.
It is almost inconceivable that they outnumbered Republicans or Democrats.
That is one in 250 registered Libertarians had an account compared to one in 560 registered voters overall
In the four states that had Libertarians, namely California, Florida, Kansas and New York, about one in 250 of the site’s clients had registered as Libertarians.
The Guardian is showing a gross failure to understand maths.
Some states do not allow abortion in cases of rape or incest . This to me is absolutely disgusting and a moral outrage.
Well don't move to Alabama then, simple answer
That was a rather flippant reply ignoring that women in those states are going to suffer dreadfully . Do you not understand the inhumanity of forcing a woman or girl who have been through a horrific trauma to then be told you must carry a child full term.
HYUFD hates women. Nobody who had a shred of respect for women would come out with a comment like that.
No I respect the unborn child, unlike you.
If pro abortion on demand ideologues like you are no longer getting it all your own way, tough
Yeah, I support the right of women to have an abortion if they've been impregnated against their will. Only a monster would disagree with that, and you are a monster.
JRM is an unthinking idiot. There's a vast array of jobs in the Civil Service; for some, attendance at the office is essential, for others, it's not - it depends on the precise role. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the changes brought about by the pandemic have increased productivity overall, and will also result in longer-term savings on office costs etc. as well.
For example, if you have a desk-based analytical job, you're likely to be more productive at home, avoiding office-based interruptions. I've a relation who's working on a major CS energy project - he reckons he gets 50% more work done at home than in the office (as well as the improvement in work-life balance by avoiding commuting). He goes in for face-to face meetings whenever necessary, maybe once a fortnight, with other business conducted remotely. I know that's anecdotal, but it's not untypical at all.
JRM is just a lightweight - pay him no mind!
Unfortunately he is not regarded as a lightweight by the PM, however.
Is the Moggster the only MP with as many children as Bozo?
How would we ever know?
Mogg did at least have his in wedlock with the same woman
What a shocking comment
Two of my grandchildren were born to our son and his partner before they married 10 years later
You are a narrow minded bigot
What was shocking about it.
Children are best brought up in families with married parents, all the statistics shows that gives them most stability. That is traditionally a standard Conservative view albeit I know you sometimes do not vote Conservative.
However it was particularly directed at the circumstances of your son's family, Mogg also has been married to one woman and not had any mistresses unlike his boss
How do you know Mogg hasn't had any mistresses? People tend to keep quiet about such things.
Well if he has I have never heard a rumour of any.
As he is a strict Roman Catholic I would also not be surprised if his wife is the only woman he has ever slept with
Surely a man of a certain wealth and status keeps a mistress. Plus a couple of actresses on the side and the odd bit of whoring.
Not really very conservative are you?
That sounds more like a wealthy urban liberal or libertarian than a traditional rural based Conservative like Rees Mogg
This is another example where your brand of conservatism is way out of line with others'. You think conservatism is all about traditional values, but there are many who think it's about taking what you can. And there are more of them than you.
It also showed Libertarian Party supporters had more affairs than Republicans and Green voters also cheated a lot.
There are certainly far more traditional social conservative voters than libertarians
Which is why Ashley Madison was so very, very busy!
Less than 1% of Americans were users of Ashley Madison on that survey, so the vast majority of Republican voters will not have used it. It had its most users in Democratic California.
Users also tended to be much wealthier than the average American, so no surprise most of them are wealthy libertarians. However libertarians are outnumbered by social conservatives in the Republican Party overall and indeed many libertarians now vote Libertarian Party anyway, not GOP
Ah ha! So you DO understand confounding variables after all! Sadly you followed it up with what appears to be a lie: "most of them are libertarians" seems false. Libertarians are more likely to sign up, but their baseline population is much smaller than Republicans. So if you'd logged on to AM and sought a seamy night of political debate, you'd likely end up with MAGA hat on your bedroom floor.
You have an ideological agenda, we know that.
However even you cannot ignore these lines from the very article you linked to 'Across the board, Libertarians made up the greatest proportion of Ashley Madison clients. In the four states that had Libertarians, namely California, Florida, Kansas and New York, about one in 250 of the site’s clients had registered as Libertarians.'
So registered supporters of the US Libertarian Party, not the Republican Party were the greatest users of Ashley Madison, we know that.
Given less than 1% of Americans use Ashley Madison, the vast majority of Republicans would also not use the site either. The social conservative majority of the GOP therefore would not have touched Ashley Madison with a bargepole, some libertarian Republicans maybe but they are increasingly being driven out of the GOP to the Libertarian Party anyway, on which point your whole argument falls apart
You said:
about one in 250 of the site’s clients had registered as Libertarians.'
So registered supporters of the US Libertarian Party, not the Republican Party were the greatest users of Ashley Madison, we know that.
What. The. Actual. Fuck.
0.4% of Ashley Madison users were Registered Libertarians on the numbers you posted.
It is almost inconceivable that they outnumbered Republicans or Democrats.
Perhaps worth pointing out, that many US states do NOT have party registration of any kind (for example WA State) while others party registration categories reflect voters who took a party ballot in a previous primary.
Also note that many states allow voters to register as "non-affiliated" or some other non-partisan designation.
As for Libertarians, even state with some form of party registration do NOT have official Libertarian Party registration.
So have serious doubts as to what these numbers are actually representing. As this is rather technical subject NOT very adapted to shade-tree quasi-analysis.
Some states do not allow abortion in cases of rape or incest . This to me is absolutely disgusting and a moral outrage.
Well don't move to Alabama then, simple answer
That was a rather flippant reply ignoring that women in those states are going to suffer dreadfully . Do you not understand the inhumanity of forcing a woman or girl who have been through a horrific trauma to then be told you must carry a child full term.
HYUFD hates women. Nobody who had a shred of respect for women would come out with a comment like that.
HYUFD has never actually met a woman. He has a wife, but you wouldn’t know her as she posts on another board.
JRM is an unthinking idiot. There's a vast array of jobs in the Civil Service; for some, attendance at the office is essential, for others, it's not - it depends on the precise role. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the changes brought about by the pandemic have increased productivity overall, and will also result in longer-term savings on office costs etc. as well.
For example, if you have a desk-based analytical job, you're likely to be more productive at home, avoiding office-based interruptions. I've a relation who's working on a major CS energy project - he reckons he gets 50% more work done at home than in the office (as well as the improvement in work-life balance by avoiding commuting). He goes in for face-to face meetings whenever necessary, maybe once a fortnight, with other business conducted remotely. I know that's anecdotal, but it's not untypical at all.
JRM is just a lightweight - pay him no mind!
Unfortunately he is not regarded as a lightweight by the PM, however.
Is the Moggster the only MP with as many children as Bozo?
How would we ever know?
Mogg did at least have his in wedlock with the same woman
What a shocking comment
Two of my grandchildren were born to our son and his partner before they married 10 years later
You are a narrow minded bigot
What was shocking about it.
Children are best brought up in families with married parents, all the statistics shows that gives them most stability. That is traditionally a standard Conservative view albeit I know you sometimes do not vote Conservative.
However it was particularly directed at the circumstances of your son's family, Mogg also has been married to one woman and not had any mistresses unlike his boss
How do you know Mogg hasn't had any mistresses? People tend to keep quiet about such things.
Well if he has I have never heard a rumour of any.
As he is a strict Roman Catholic I would also not be surprised if his wife is the only woman he has ever slept with
Surely a man of a certain wealth and status keeps a mistress. Plus a couple of actresses on the side and the odd bit of whoring.
Not really very conservative are you?
That sounds more like a wealthy urban liberal or libertarian than a traditional rural based Conservative like Rees Mogg
This is another example where your brand of conservatism is way out of line with others'. You think conservatism is all about traditional values, but there are many who think it's about taking what you can. And there are more of them than you.
It also showed Libertarian Party supporters had more affairs than Republicans and Green voters also cheated a lot.
There are certainly far more traditional social conservative voters than libertarians
Which is why Ashley Madison was so very, very busy!
Less than 1% of Americans were users of Ashley Madison on that survey, so the vast majority of Republican voters will not have used it. It had its most users in Democratic California.
Users also tended to be much wealthier than the average American, so no surprise most of them are wealthy libertarians. However libertarians are outnumbered by social conservatives in the Republican Party overall and indeed many libertarians now vote Libertarian Party anyway, not GOP
Ah ha! So you DO understand confounding variables after all! Sadly you followed it up with what appears to be a lie: "most of them are libertarians" seems false. Libertarians are more likely to sign up, but their baseline population is much smaller than Republicans. So if you'd logged on to AM and sought a seamy night of political debate, you'd likely end up with MAGA hat on your bedroom floor.
You have an ideological agenda, we know that.
However even you cannot ignore these lines from the very article you linked to 'Across the board, Libertarians made up the greatest proportion of Ashley Madison clients. In the four states that had Libertarians, namely California, Florida, Kansas and New York, about one in 250 of the site’s clients had registered as Libertarians.'
So registered supporters of the US Libertarian Party, not the Republican Party were the greatest users of Ashley Madison, we know that.
Given less than 1% of Americans use Ashley Madison, the vast majority of Republicans would also not use the site either. The social conservative majority of the GOP therefore would not have touched Ashley Madison with a bargepole, some libertarian Republicans maybe but they are increasingly being driven out of the GOP to the Libertarian Party anyway, on which point your whole argument falls apart
You said:
about one in 250 of the site’s clients had registered as Libertarians.'
So registered supporters of the US Libertarian Party, not the Republican Party were the greatest users of Ashley Madison, we know that.
What. The. Actual. Fuck.
0.4% of Ashley Madison users were Registered Libertarians on the numbers you posted.
It is almost inconceivable that they outnumbered Republicans or Democrats.
That is one in 250 registered Libertarians had an account compared to one in 560 registered voters overall
"about one in 250 of the site’s clients had registered as Libertarians" is not the same as "one in 250 registered Libertarians had an account"
Fucking hell, you're thick today
Whatever, Libertarians were still double the registration rate of the average voter
Some states do not allow abortion in cases of rape or incest . This to me is absolutely disgusting and a moral outrage.
Well don't move to Alabama then, simple answer
That was a rather flippant reply ignoring that women in those states are going to suffer dreadfully . Do you not understand the inhumanity of forcing a woman or girl who have been through a horrific trauma to then be told you must carry a child full term.
HYUFD hates women. Nobody who had a shred of respect for women would come out with a comment like that.
HYUFD has never actually met a woman. He has a wife, but you wouldn’t know her as she posts on another board.
There are plenty of pro life women and plenty of pro abortion on demand men, as has been seen on here tonight
Thank you. Some absolutely fascinating graphs and diagrams there.
And for our PB Village Tory,
"This goes beyond mere equity. The party faces a fight for its survival as the boomer cohort passes on. In the long run, how can a party which stands for the preservation and low taxation of capital survive if later cohorts do not accumulate any capital?
Inheritance won’t save it. The average millennial is set to receive theirs in their mid-sixties - well beyond their fertile years, and well beyond when they might hope to build a foundation for their later life (Institute for Fiscal Studies, 2020). Leaving aside the distributive impact of inheritance (which is essentially untaxed), where the privileged are given a springboard well beyond necessity."
It also ignores the fact most people are still on the property ladder, at least with a mortgage, by 39.
Yes fewer 20 and early 30 year olds own property and are voting Tory than in the early 1990s but more pensioners are voting Conservative and over 40s are still voting Tory. Hence the Tory majority in 2019 was bigger than in 1992
39 is really quite old for buying one's first house. If you want a family, you probably wanted to start it ten years earlier. It also means that you'll have only just paid off that first 25 year mortgage at retirement.
By comparison, I bought at 25 (ten years ago), and would own therefore own my house mortgage free at 50 if my circumstances had continued unchanged.
I'm currently looking at trading my 3 bed for which I paid £90k in 2012 for a 4 bed... Have been somewhat stunned to realise that my house is now probably worth £175k, and the cheapest 4 beds are around £250-300k (they were about £130-150 when I bought my house).
There's no way I could possibly afford to buy a £175k house if I was starting again - my wages have maybe gone up 50% in cash terms whilst my house's value has gone up by around 100%. (the only reason a four bed is a possibility is my fiancee also owns a house which we'll sell after we marry).
I can't see this rate of price growth being sustainable in the long term, but it's hard to see exactly how the madness stops either.
Some states do not allow abortion in cases of rape or incest . This to me is absolutely disgusting and a moral outrage.
I believe that women should have abortion on demand up to some time limit (and in this country it’s 20 weeks?).
But if someone is genuinely against all abortion, it is absurd to demand they make an exception for rape or incest. How is it the fault of the fetus that their father was a rapist or the brother of their mother?
For those who are not against all abortion, but would countenance it in the case of physical danger to the mother, I would think they should accept that the psycological damage of being forced to carry to term a baby which is a result of rape or incest is as bad as physical danger.
Seattle Times ($) - Rice cooker in SUV delays Biden departure, Sea-Tac official says
President Joe Biden’s departure from Seattle-Tacoma International Airport was delayed, and Air Force One moved to a different area Friday afternoon because of reports of a suspicious item on the north end of the airport, officials said.
Someone alerted security about a suspicious item in the open window of a black SUV near the LSG Sky Chefs facility on South 154th Street and 24th Avenue South before Biden arrived for his Friday departure to Philadelphia, airport spokesperson Perry Cooper said. The aircraft was moved to the runway, where Biden then boarded once he arrived by helicopter from Auburn at 4:20 p.m.
Security officials had determined the item wasn't a threat — it was a rice cooker, Cooper said. The Port of Seattle is investigating and working with police, Cooper said.
Hundreds of flight departures and arrivals were delayed, as security protocols require air traffic to clear for at least 30 minutes.
“One of the challenges you have when Air Force One comes into your community is you have to do what they have to for security,” Cooper said. “With that in mind, if they want to stop air traffic, then that is going to have a rolling effect for all those flights when that delay happens. If it extends, then all those airlines have to catch up afterward.”
Seattle Times ($) - Rice cooker in SUV delays Biden departure, Sea-Tac official says
President Joe Biden’s departure from Seattle-Tacoma International Airport was delayed, and Air Force One moved to a different area Friday afternoon because of reports of a suspicious item on the north end of the airport, officials said.
Someone alerted security about a suspicious item in the open window of a black SUV near the LSG Sky Chefs facility on South 154th Street and 24th Avenue South before Biden arrived for his Friday departure to Philadelphia, airport spokesperson Perry Cooper said. The aircraft was moved to the runway, where Biden then boarded once he arrived by helicopter from Auburn at 4:20 p.m.
Security officials had determined the item wasn't a threat — it was a rice cooker, Cooper said. The Port of Seattle is investigating and working with police, Cooper said.
Hundreds of flight departures and arrivals were delayed, as security protocols require air traffic to clear for at least 30 minutes.
“One of the challenges you have when Air Force One comes into your community is you have to do what they have to for security,” Cooper said. “With that in mind, if they want to stop air traffic, then that is going to have a rolling effect for all those flights when that delay happens. If it extends, then all those airlines have to catch up afterward.”
Rice cookers look like pressure cookers, which may explain this.
Some states do not allow abortion in cases of rape or incest . This to me is absolutely disgusting and a moral outrage.
I believe that women should have abortion on demand up to some time limit (and in this country it’s 20 weeks?).
But if someone is genuinely against all abortion, it is absurd to demand they make an exception for rape or incest. How is it the fault of the fetus that their father was a rapist or the brother of their mother?
For those who are not against all abortion, but would countenance it in the case of physical danger to the mother, I would think they should accept that the psycological damage of being forced to carry to term a baby which is a result of rape or incest is as bad as physical danger.
I think there's also a practical issue with banning abortion except in cases of rape, as unfortunately it might well lead to a lot of allegations of rape by those seeking abortions. See also the way that the 1967 abortion act was intended to only allow abortions in very limited circumstances, but it now goes through on the nod for anyone who wants one on the supposed basis of "the health of the mother".
Personally am AGAINST special districts of the type created for fiscal benefit of Disney Corp back when Disneyworld was constructed. Clear however that Gov. De Santis is NOT opposed to the principle, just to corporations OR people who won't knuckle under.
Huey Long without his charm, comic relief OR true populism in genuinely striving (and scheming) comfort the afflicted . . . and afflict the comfortable.
Of course motive behind EVERYTHING De Santis does these days is 2024 presidential election.
Shows amazing "development" of American politics since 2016, that a leading contender for the Republican nomination believes that one key means of winning over the GOP faithful and getting himself elected POTUS, is by kicking Mickey Mouse's big fat ass up and down Main Street, USA
Personally am AGAINST special districts of the type created for fiscal benefit of Disney Corp back when Disneyworld was constructed. Clear however that Gov. De Santis is NOT opposed to the principle, just to corporations OR people who won't knuckle under.
Huey Long without his charm, comic relief OR true populism in genuinely striving (and scheming) comfort the afflicted . . . and afflict the comfortable.
Of course motive behind EVERYTHING De Santis does these days is 2024 presidential election.
Shows amazing "development" of American politics since 2016, that a leading contender for the Republican nomination believes that one key means of winning over the GOP faithful and getting himself elected POTUS, is by kicking Mickey Mouse's big fat ass up and down Main Street, USA
They are hardly likely to decamp elsewhere, right? So whatever the motives, the policy will not backfire in the short term.
The special area refers to the parts of Disney which are outwith the ticketed parks, right? How much is that? Becuase in the actual parks, they have complete control anyway.
Personally am AGAINST special districts of the type created for fiscal benefit of Disney Corp back when Disneyworld was constructed. Clear however that Gov. De Santis is NOT opposed to the principle, just to corporations OR people who won't knuckle under.
Huey Long without his charm, comic relief OR true populism in genuinely striving (and scheming) comfort the afflicted . . . and afflict the comfortable.
Of course motive behind EVERYTHING De Santis does these days is 2024 presidential election.
Shows amazing "development" of American politics since 2016, that a leading contender for the Republican nomination believes that one key means of winning over the GOP faithful and getting himself elected POTUS, is by kicking Mickey Mouse's big fat ass up and down Main Street, USA
Technically, the Reedy Creek Improvement District is only dissolved in 15 months time.
Which is designed to allow Disney and the State of Florida to find a compromise. De Santis doesn't really give a shit about Disney, and certainly doesn't want to assume $1.5bn of debt. But he does want a victory.
At some point in the next year and a bit, it will all be forgotten.
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'Married parents are more likely to stay together than cohabiting ones. In fact, two-thirds of cohabiting parents split up before their child reaches age 12, compared with one quarter of married parents'. Also offering children greater stability.'
My original claim stands absolutely, not just on education outcomes. Despite your and BigG's ideological liberalism and non conservatism
https://www.brookings.edu/research/cohabiting-parents-differ-from-married-ones-in-three-big-ways/
There are certainly far more traditional social conservative voters than libertarians
Overall France is still clearly pro EU and Le Pen would have tanked if her platform was Frexit . She’s done her best to hide her hatred of the EU but it came to the fore many times during the debate .
Oh dear, HYUFD
"Higher tax credits and higher minimum wages would boost incomes among cohabiting and single-parent homes."
Socialism!
"Most importantly, reducing rates of unintended pregnancies and births would ensure that more parents were prepared for the responsibilities and rigors of parenthood."
Pro-abortion
"The policy priority here is to improve access to and use of contraception"
You're off to Catholic Hell
What they suggest leftwing parties do to increase incomes of non married couples is separate to what Conservatives should be doing to increase incomes of married couples.
Marriage reduces rates of unintended pregnancies without abortion.
I am not Catholic, I am not necessarily opposed to contraception.
Users also tended to be much wealthier than the average American, so no surprise most of them are wealthy libertarians. However libertarians are outnumbered by social conservatives in the Republican Party overall and indeed many libertarians now vote Libertarian Party anyway, not GOP
You're literally sharing pro-abortion literature on here. I'm actually a little proud of you.
Certain to vote was 7,549.
Fieldwork was just today .
Macron 56.5%
Le Pen 43.5%
You could achieve that even if abortion was illegal again
Sadly you followed it up with what appears to be a lie: "most of them are libertarians" seems false. Libertarians are more likely to sign up, but their baseline population is much smaller than Republicans. So if you'd logged on to AM and sought a seamy night of political debate, you'd likely end up with MAGA hat on your bedroom floor.
Oh, you're so going to Catholic Hell.
However even you cannot ignore these lines from the very article you linked to 'Across the board, Libertarians made up the greatest proportion of Ashley Madison clients. In the four states that had Libertarians, namely California, Florida, Kansas and New York, about one in 250 of the site’s clients had registered as Libertarians.'
So registered supporters of the US Libertarian Party, not the Republican Party were the greatest users of Ashley Madison, we know that.
Given less than 1% of Americans use Ashley Madison, the vast majority of Republicans would also not use the site either. The social conservative majority of the GOP therefore would not have touched Ashley Madison with a bargepole, some libertarian Republicans maybe but they are increasingly being driven out of the GOP to the Libertarian Party anyway, on which point your whole argument falls apart
And no, you could make abortion even illegal again and still reduce unplanned pregnancies by increasing marriage rates
The USA is in a terrible state , barring the solid blue states the rest are a backward cesspit of gun toting , anti-abortion nutjobs.
Even worse are the women who try to restrict other women’s rights to choose . No woman wants to have an abortion , it’s a last resort but the choice should always be a women’s to make .
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"Zelensky: Allies 'finally' providing weapons Ukraine asked for.
Zelensky thanked Kyiv's partners who “finally heard” Ukraine’s requests for arms.
He said the arms will save the lives of thousands and show Russia the day they will be forced to leave Ukraine is approaching."
https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1517641373893148673
It does seem as though the evidence of Russian atrocities around Kyiv was a turning point, and prompted the provision of a lot more heavy equipment to Ukraine. The situation might soon become a lot worse for Russian forces in Ukraine.
about one in 250 of the site’s clients had registered as Libertarians.'
So registered supporters of the US Libertarian Party, not the Republican Party were the greatest users of Ashley Madison, we know that.
What. The. Actual. Fuck.
0.4% of Ashley Madison users were Registered Libertarians on the numbers you posted.
It is almost inconceivable that they outnumbered Republicans or Democrats.
If pro abortion on demand ideologues like you are no longer getting it all your own way, tough
is not the same as
"one in 250 registered Libertarians had an account"
Fucking hell, you're thick today
I can’t think of another explanation for tonight’s stream of bollocks.
The Guardian is showing a gross failure to understand maths.
Please don't be like them.
However, I have to ask myself, who would I, desperate to see the end of the Tories, “fear” as Johnson’s replacement?
I don’t think there is anyone truly worrying, but perhaps Hunt (or, as a wildcard, Mordaunt) comes closest.
Also note that many states allow voters to register as "non-affiliated" or some other non-partisan designation.
As for Libertarians, even state with some form of party registration do NOT have official Libertarian Party registration.
So have serious doubts as to what these numbers are actually representing. As this is rather technical subject NOT very adapted to shade-tree quasi-analysis.
He has a wife, but you wouldn’t know her as she posts on another board.
It is not actual fear, Wallace has higher approval ratings with the public than Hunt, just someone who will change the least
Shame I don’t bet.
I don’t fear Wallace because I suspect (I could be wrong) that he doesn’t really have either the vision or the experience.
If you want a family, you probably wanted to start it ten years earlier. It also means that you'll have only just paid off that first 25 year mortgage at retirement.
By comparison, I bought at 25 (ten years ago), and would own therefore own my house mortgage free at 50 if my circumstances had continued unchanged.
I'm currently looking at trading my 3 bed for which I paid £90k in 2012 for a 4 bed... Have been somewhat stunned to realise that my house is now probably worth £175k, and the cheapest 4 beds are around £250-300k (they were about £130-150 when I bought my house).
There's no way I could possibly afford to buy a £175k house if I was starting again - my wages have maybe gone up 50% in cash terms whilst my house's value has gone up by around 100%.
(the only reason a four bed is a possibility is my fiancee also owns a house which we'll sell after we marry).
I can't see this rate of price growth being sustainable in the long term, but it's hard to see exactly how the madness stops either.
But if someone is genuinely against all abortion, it is absurd to demand they make an exception for rape or incest. How is it the fault of the fetus that their father was a rapist or the brother of their mother?
For those who are not against all abortion, but would countenance it in the case of physical danger to the mother, I would think they should accept that the psycological damage of being forced to carry to term a baby which is a result of rape or incest is as bad as physical danger.
President Joe Biden’s departure from Seattle-Tacoma International Airport was delayed, and Air Force One moved to a different area Friday afternoon because of reports of a suspicious item on the north end of the airport, officials said.
Someone alerted security about a suspicious item in the open window of a black SUV near the LSG Sky Chefs facility on South 154th Street and 24th Avenue South before Biden arrived for his Friday departure to Philadelphia, airport spokesperson Perry Cooper said. The aircraft was moved to the runway, where Biden then boarded once he arrived by helicopter from Auburn at 4:20 p.m.
Security officials had determined the item wasn't a threat — it was a rice cooker, Cooper said. The Port of Seattle is investigating and working with police, Cooper said.
Hundreds of flight departures and arrivals were delayed, as security protocols require air traffic to clear for at least 30 minutes.
“One of the challenges you have when Air Force One comes into your community is you have to do what they have to for security,” Cooper said. “With that in mind, if they want to stop air traffic, then that is going to have a rolling effect for all those flights when that delay happens. If it extends, then all those airlines have to catch up afterward.”
The former being used about 99% of time in error intending to hit "Quote" or "Like". (FFTS = Fat Finger Texting Syndrome).
Lot of times I have to hit "Like" when "LOL" would be far more appropriate.
Of course a world of difference between hoots of delight and snorts of derision, but then cannot have infinite buttons.
Or can we?
See also the way that the 1967 abortion act was intended to only allow abortions in very limited circumstances, but it now goes through on the nod for anyone who wants one on the supposed basis of "the health of the mother".
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/04/22/desantis-disney-special-status-dont-say-gay-00027302
Personally am AGAINST special districts of the type created for fiscal benefit of Disney Corp back when Disneyworld was constructed. Clear however that Gov. De Santis is NOT opposed to the principle, just to corporations OR people who won't knuckle under.
Huey Long without his charm, comic relief OR true populism in genuinely striving (and scheming) comfort the afflicted . . . and afflict the comfortable.
Of course motive behind EVERYTHING De Santis does these days is 2024 presidential election.
Shows amazing "development" of American politics since 2016, that a leading contender for the Republican nomination believes that one key means of winning over the GOP faithful and getting himself elected POTUS, is by kicking Mickey Mouse's big fat ass up and down Main Street, USA
The special area refers to the parts of Disney which are outwith the ticketed parks, right? How much is that? Becuase in the actual parks, they have complete control anyway.
Which is designed to allow Disney and the State of Florida to find a compromise. De Santis doesn't really give a shit about Disney, and certainly doesn't want to assume $1.5bn of debt. But he does want a victory.
At some point in the next year and a bit, it will all be forgotten.