OT Neighbours faces axe after being dropped by Channel 5. This is the real news.
The Australian soap Neighbours, which launched the international careers of countless local stars including Kylie Minogue, Jason Donovan, Margot Robbie and Guy Pearce, has been axed in the UK in a move likely to sound the death knell for the iconic show.
Terrible news, though I believe it is C5 that subsidises most of Neighbours now. Neighbours is more popular with British than Australian viewers, whereas for Home and Away it is the reverse.
Stupid move by C5 too as Neighbours is one of the few programmes I ever watch on the channel
Has Rishi ever told the House of Commons he never attended a party in Downing Street during the lockdown period? Because that is why Boris will have to resign.
Don't think Rishi's every spoken in the House about it. He's mentioned it in interviews, IIRC, saying something anodyne.
Incidentally, we sometimes see pictures of him with a glass of beer in his hand, when we know he's teetotal; I realise it's 'publicity', but surely that's dishonest. Personally, while I do, I have no problem with people who choose not to drink alcoholic drinks. It's a respectable lifestyle choice which is different to mine, that's all.
I understand alcohol-free beer is a thing.
Admittedly, never met anyone who drinks it.....
I drink low and alcohol free beer. It’s fine. A nice option to have on a night out if you’re driving or just don’t want booze.
Has Rishi ever told the House of Commons he never attended a party in Downing Street during the lockdown period? Because that is why Boris will have to resign.
Don't think Rishi's every spoken in the House about it. He's mentioned it in interviews, IIRC, saying something anodyne.
Incidentally, we sometimes see pictures of him with a glass of beer in his hand, when we know he's teetotal; I realise it's 'publicity', but surely that's dishonest. Personally, while I do, I have no problem with people who choose not to drink alcoholic drinks. It's a respectable lifestyle choice which is different to mine, that's all.
I understand alcohol-free beer is a thing.
Admittedly, never met anyone who drinks it.....
An acquaintance of mine, a chap who practically lived in the pub, to the extent that he had a reserved seat, once spent a month on alcohol free lager to raise money for a cancer charity, after the death, from cancer of his daughter. All the regulars, and even the not so regulars, like me, said he'd never do it, but he did. Raised £10k IIRC.
And Abbott do something called Ghost Ship which is 0.5% and I find quite acceptable.
Adnams.
Quite right. Apologies
One of the benefits of having a house in Southwold. No need to apologize though, just said to help anyone looking for it. Adnams do some good beer which is a good job if you want a beer there.
OT Neighbours faces axe after being dropped by Channel 5. This is the real news.
The Australian soap Neighbours, which launched the international careers of countless local stars including Kylie Minogue, Jason Donovan, Margot Robbie and Guy Pearce, has been axed in the UK in a move likely to sound the death knell for the iconic show.
Terrible news, though I believe it is C5 that subsidises most of Neighbours now. Neighbours is more popular with British than Australian viewers, whereas for Home and Away it is the reverse
Am we adding Australia to another of your indisputable knowledge areas like Northern Ireland and IQ in education?
OT Neighbours faces axe after being dropped by Channel 5. This is the real news.
The Australian soap Neighbours, which launched the international careers of countless local stars including Kylie Minogue, Jason Donovan, Margot Robbie and Guy Pearce, has been axed in the UK in a move likely to sound the death knell for the iconic show.
Terrible news, though I believe it is C5 that subsidises most of Neighbours now. Neighbours is more popular with British than Australian viewers, whereas for Home and Away it is the reverse
Am we adding Australia to another of your indisputable knowledge areas like Northern Ireland and IQ in education?
Has Rishi ever told the House of Commons he never attended a party in Downing Street during the lockdown period? Because that is why Boris will have to resign.
Don't think Rishi's every spoken in the House about it. He's mentioned it in interviews, IIRC, saying something anodyne.
Incidentally, we sometimes see pictures of him with a glass of beer in his hand, when we know he's teetotal; I realise it's 'publicity', but surely that's dishonest. Personally, while I do, I have no problem with people who choose not to drink alcoholic drinks. It's a respectable lifestyle choice which is different to mine, that's all.
I understand alcohol-free beer is a thing.
Admittedly, never met anyone who drinks it.....
I have done occasionally, when wanting to meet with friends and the only option was to drive. A couple of them now taste reasonably. I just don't really like soft drinks.
I think the alcohol free Heinekin is perfectly drinkable when socialising and driving. Certainly better than most of th soft drinks the pub offers.
Has Rishi ever told the House of Commons he never attended a party in Downing Street during the lockdown period? Because that is why Boris will have to resign.
Don't think Rishi's every spoken in the House about it. He's mentioned it in interviews, IIRC, saying something anodyne.
Incidentally, we sometimes see pictures of him with a glass of beer in his hand, when we know he's teetotal; I realise it's 'publicity', but surely that's dishonest. Personally, while I do, I have no problem with people who choose not to drink alcoholic drinks. It's a respectable lifestyle choice which is different to mine, that's all.
I understand alcohol-free beer is a thing.
Admittedly, never met anyone who drinks it.....
An acquaintance of mine, a chap who practically lived in the pub, to the extent that he had a reserved seat, once spent a month on alcohol free lager to raise money for a cancer charity, after the death, from cancer of his daughter. All the regulars, and even the not so regulars, like me, said he'd never do it, but he did. Raised £10k IIRC.
And Abbott do something called Ghost Ship which is 0.5% and I find quite acceptable.
Adnams.
Quite right. Apologies
One of the benefits of having a house in Southwold. No need to apologize though, just said to help anyone looking for it. Adnams do some good beer which is a good job if you want a beer there.
Indeed. We have a 'Free House' locally which stocks several of Adnams beers. Plus Timothy Taylors and two or three others. Timothy Taylors always takes me back as my first job as a pharmacist was with the late Timothy Whites!
Good morning one and all. Although 'all' isn't many of us yet!
I see the 70th anniversary of the the Queen's accession, and consequent run up to the 69th anniversary of the coronation is beginning to stir leader and feature writers. Probably to the advantage of the PM. Something else to talk about.
Perhaps more instructive though that her mind seems to be dwelling more on death and the succession.
There is clearly something we are not being told.
Also rather instructive the way she seems to have taken to Camilla. Which I gather is typical of people who know her personally. One regiment she was honorary Colonel of thought the world of her because any time a soldier was injured she took the trouble to hand write them a note wishing them a speedy recovery, along with a bottle of good whisky.
Whether the Queen’s recent very public endorsements will be enough to overcome the lingering public hostility of Diana’s many admirers is a different question. The last thread suggests the answer is ‘no.’
Indeed, but the question is how many people that comprises. I'd guess fewer than there used to be, but still a fair number. It still surprises me - adultery is shameful behaviour but there is the matter of proportion.
As for her thoughts on death and succession and something we're not being told, she's 95 and her 99 year old husband died, the thought is bound to come up. Especially as she has fewer engagements.
I think her health is not great, and we are kept in the dark about this. Tbh we don’t have a right to know anyway, it should be personal. It does seem clear that wheels are turning though. I still think the jubilee is a gamble, although the well documented phenomenon of people staying alive just long enough for the big event (e.g Christmas, anniversary etc) only to pass quickly after may well happen. I had a disagreement with my m in l yesterday about the concept of the royal family. I abhor the fact that they are given special status, arising simply through chance of who they were born to. I would abolish the royal concept in a heart beat. And yet I have huge respect for the queen who has always shown the right way to lead and behave. And yet next we face the moron. He was unfairly treated over marriage, as clearly he should have been allowed to marry a divorcee. Ultimately that caused all the issues with Diana. But he still remains an arrogant, moron.
I'm on the verge of betting on Boris Johnson staying until 2024. 4/1 on Ladbrokes.
I think he's an out-and-out turd but I'm unconvinced about this legend of the ruthless tory party. He's only had half a term in office and that was covid-ridden.
Are the tory MPs ready to see the writing on the wall? I'm not convinced.
Has Rishi ever told the House of Commons he never attended a party in Downing Street during the lockdown period? Because that is why Boris will have to resign.
Don't think Rishi's every spoken in the House about it. He's mentioned it in interviews, IIRC, saying something anodyne.
Incidentally, we sometimes see pictures of him with a glass of beer in his hand, when we know he's teetotal; I realise it's 'publicity', but surely that's dishonest. Personally, while I do, I have no problem with people who choose not to drink alcoholic drinks. It's a respectable lifestyle choice which is different to mine, that's all.
I understand alcohol-free beer is a thing.
Admittedly, never met anyone who drinks it.....
I drink low and alcohol free beer. It’s fine. A nice option to have on a night out if you’re driving or just don’t want booze.
Low alcohol and alcohol free beer has come a long way from the 1990’s when I worked in pubs and only had Kaliber as an option. As others have said there are a few decent ones now, nicely filling the gap between booze and soft drinks. You do have to find what you like. Some taste like watered down beer. Some are plain weird. Ghost ship and nanny state are decent.
Punk AF is good too, and of the lagers Heiniken. Thornbridge do an AF Stout that is quite drinkable too.
Most contain some residual alcohol, so not truly alcohol free, and it is one of the fastest growing sectors of the market, Alcohol free wine is undrinkable though.
These are fine if you are going through a period of not drinking. You can actually adapt to them and give up alcohol completely, as I did for a year. The beers at 0.5% have a more authentic bitterness in my experience than the 0.0% beers, which just taste sweet.
I had an idea yesterday: Mix Punk AF with Punk IPA (or similar). You get a drinkable IPA at about 2.5% alcohol.
I'm on the verge of betting on Boris Johnson staying until 2024. 4/1 on Ladbrokes.
I think he's an out-and-out turd but I'm unconvinced about this legend of the ruthless tory party. He's only had half a term in office and that was covid-ridden.
Are the tory MPs ready to see the writing on the wall? I'm not convinced.
Good morning one and all. Although 'all' isn't many of us yet!
I see the 70th anniversary of the the Queen's accession, and consequent run up to the 69th anniversary of the coronation is beginning to stir leader and feature writers. Probably to the advantage of the PM. Something else to talk about.
Perhaps more instructive though that her mind seems to be dwelling more on death and the succession.
There is clearly something we are not being told.
Also rather instructive the way she seems to have taken to Camilla. Which I gather is typical of people who know her personally. One regiment she was honorary Colonel of thought the world of her because any time a soldier was injured she took the trouble to hand write them a note wishing them a speedy recovery, along with a bottle of good whisky.
Whether the Queen’s recent very public endorsements will be enough to overcome the lingering public hostility of Diana’s many admirers is a different question. The last thread suggests the answer is ‘no.’
Indeed, but the question is how many people that comprises. I'd guess fewer than there used to be, but still a fair number. It still surprises me - adultery is shameful behaviour but there is the matter of proportion.
As for her thoughts on death and succession and something we're not being told, she's 95 and her 99 year old husband died, the thought is bound to come up. Especially as she has fewer engagements.
I think her health is not great, and we are kept in the dark about this. Tbh we don’t have a right to know anyway, it should be personal. It does seem clear that wheels are turning though. I still think the jubilee is a gamble, although the well documented phenomenon of people staying alive just long enough for the big event (e.g Christmas, anniversary etc) only to pass quickly after may well happen. I had a disagreement with my m in l yesterday about the concept of the royal family. I abhor the fact that they are given special status, arising simply through chance of who they were born to. I would abolish the royal concept in a heart beat. And yet I have huge respect for the queen who has always shown the right way to lead and behave. And yet next we face the moron. He was unfairly treated over marriage, as clearly he should have been allowed to marry a divorcee. Ultimately that caused all the issues with Diana. But he still remains and arrogant, moron.
Great post. Which probably just means I'm with you 100%.
IDS still backs Boris on Marr but says he must regain the public's trust.
Not my interpretation of what he said. If you mean he hasn't sent in a letter, well you are right, but not exactly wholehearted support.
IDS is close to Raab, if Raab did become PM (which relies on Boris and Sunak getting fined), expect IDS to return to the Cabinet
Didn't know that. Thanks for the info. However I don't think Boris will resign if fined. Might depend on Rishi who might think it appropriate to resign.
I'm on the verge of betting on Boris Johnson staying until 2024. 4/1 on Ladbrokes.
I think he's an out-and-out turd but I'm unconvinced about this legend of the ruthless tory party. He's only had half a term in office and that was covid-ridden.
Are the tory MPs ready to see the writing on the wall? I'm not convinced.
If Boris and Sunak are both fined for attending Boris' birthday party, forcing Boris out and ending Sunak's leadership campaign then get on Deputy PM Raab as next Tory leader and PM.
The new Deltapoll in the Sun this morning has Raab now up to second favourite amongst the public for next Tory leader after Sunak, ahead of Truss, Patel, Hunt and Gove
As Dr Johnson observed “ Sir, there is no settling the point of precedency between a louse and a flea."
Looking at the details of the poll, I see that not only do 31% think he shouldn't resign, 29% think he shouldn't even resign if he lied to Parliament. That seems a reasonable measure of the Tory core vote.
Also unsurprising but worth noting that the overwhelming majority care more about how the Government handles the cost of living.
I'm on the verge of betting on Boris Johnson staying until 2024. 4/1 on Ladbrokes.
I think he's an out-and-out turd but I'm unconvinced about this legend of the ruthless tory party. He's only had half a term in office and that was covid-ridden.
Are the tory MPs ready to see the writing on the wall? I'm not convinced.
Good morning one and all. Although 'all' isn't many of us yet!
I see the 70th anniversary of the the Queen's accession, and consequent run up to the 69th anniversary of the coronation is beginning to stir leader and feature writers. Probably to the advantage of the PM. Something else to talk about.
Perhaps more instructive though that her mind seems to be dwelling more on death and the succession.
There is clearly something we are not being told.
Also rather instructive the way she seems to have taken to Camilla. Which I gather is typical of people who know her personally. One regiment she was honorary Colonel of thought the world of her because any time a soldier was injured she took the trouble to hand write them a note wishing them a speedy recovery, along with a bottle of good whisky.
Whether the Queen’s recent very public endorsements will be enough to overcome the lingering public hostility of Diana’s many admirers is a different question. The last thread suggests the answer is ‘no.’
Indeed, but the question is how many people that comprises. I'd guess fewer than there used to be, but still a fair number. It still surprises me - adultery is shameful behaviour but there is the matter of proportion.
As for her thoughts on death and succession and something we're not being told, she's 95 and her 99 year old husband died, the thought is bound to come up. Especially as she has fewer engagements.
I think her health is not great, and we are kept in the dark about this. Tbh we don’t have a right to know anyway, it should be personal. It does seem clear that wheels are turning though. I still think the jubilee is a gamble, although the well documented phenomenon of people staying alive just long enough for the big event (e.g Christmas, anniversary etc) only to pass quickly after may well happen. I had a disagreement with my m in l yesterday about the concept of the royal family. I abhor the fact that they are given special status, arising simply through chance of who they were born to. I would abolish the royal concept in a heart beat. And yet I have huge respect for the queen who has always shown the right way to lead and behave. And yet next we face the moron. He was unfairly treated over marriage, as clearly he should have been allowed to marry a divorcee. Ultimately that caused all the issues with Diana. But he still remains an arrogant, moron.
But, thanks to Camilla, he is now a humanised arrogant moron. She has been really good for him and I think the Queen is grateful.
I'm on the verge of betting on Boris Johnson staying until 2024. 4/1 on Ladbrokes.
I think he's an out-and-out turd but I'm unconvinced about this legend of the ruthless tory party. He's only had half a term in office and that was covid-ridden.
Are the tory MPs ready to see the writing on the wall? I'm not convinced.
Note the election may be 2023 rather than 2024.
No chance
I don't normally post minimalist dismissives, so just to expand: I really don't think there's a scintilla of a chance of a General Election next year. There are far too many storm clouds and Starmer is way too strong. Even 'if' they changed leader they will leave it to 2024 which, afterall will still only be 4 years and a five months since the last one.
I thought there was a six month cut off for this stuff?
Fair or otherwise it would leave him in the clear. And we could have the Gray report in full....
If there is a six month cutoff, why are the police investigating at all?
Is it 6 months from the date of incident, or from the date that the police became aware of it?
If it's a formal statute of limitations, it should be the date of the incident. E.g. you cannot sue for libel more than a year after publication, or receive a speeding ticket after more than fourteen days have passed.
Doubly so when there were police officers in attendance, at the time and place where the alleged offences occurred.
Were I advising anyone involved, I would be strongly suggesting that they don’t accept an FPN, and insist on going to court with a good lawyer.
Has Rishi ever told the House of Commons he never attended a party in Downing Street during the lockdown period? Because that is why Boris will have to resign.
Don't think Rishi's every spoken in the House about it. He's mentioned it in interviews, IIRC, saying something anodyne.
Incidentally, we sometimes see pictures of him with a glass of beer in his hand, when we know he's teetotal; I realise it's 'publicity', but surely that's dishonest. Personally, while I do, I have no problem with people who choose not to drink alcoholic drinks. It's a respectable lifestyle choice which is different to mine, that's all.
I understand alcohol-free beer is a thing.
Admittedly, never met anyone who drinks it.....
I drink low and alcohol free beer. It’s fine. A nice option to have on a night out if you’re driving or just don’t want booze.
Low alcohol and alcohol free beer has come a long way from the 1990’s when I worked in pubs and only had Kaliber as an option. As others have said there are a few decent ones now, nicely filling the gap between booze and soft drinks. You do have to find what you like. Some taste like watered down beer. Some are plain weird. Ghost ship and nanny state are decent.
Punk AF is good too, and of the lagers Heiniken. Thornbridge do an AF Stout that is quite drinkable too.
Most contain some residual alcohol, so not truly alcohol free, and it is one of the fastest growing sectors of the market, Alcohol free wine is undrinkable though.
These are fine if you are going through a period of not drinking. You can actually adapt to them and give up alcohol completely, as I did for a year. The beers at 0.5% have a more authentic bitterness in my experience than the 0.0% beers, which just taste sweet.
I had an idea yesterday: Mix Punk AF with Punk IPA (or similar). You get a drinkable IPA at about 2.5% alcohol.
There used to be a beer round here called SPA, made I think by Gibbs. It may have been Salisbury Poor Ale but that’s a guess. It packed a hefty 3.0% abv, and my dad used to drink it as a safer option when driving (three pints equivalent to two at 4.5%). There probably is a market for similar beers. Not 0.5% etc, but in the 2 to 3 %.
IDS still backs Boris on Marr but says he must regain the public's trust.
Not my interpretation of what he said. If you mean he hasn't sent in a letter, well you are right, but not exactly wholehearted support.
IDS is close to Raab, if Raab did become PM (which relies on Boris and Sunak getting fined), expect IDS to return to the Cabinet
Didn't know that. Thanks for the info. However I don't think Boris will resign if fined. Might depend on Rishi who might think it appropriate to resign.
I'm not sure Johnson would resign if he lost a vote of confidence which didn't specifically instruct him to!
I'm on the verge of betting on Boris Johnson staying until 2024. 4/1 on Ladbrokes.
I think he's an out-and-out turd but I'm unconvinced about this legend of the ruthless tory party. He's only had half a term in office and that was covid-ridden.
Are the tory MPs ready to see the writing on the wall? I'm not convinced.
Note the election may be 2023 rather than 2024.
No chance
In which case lay it then!
No thanks.
As I posted originally, without any need to amend, I am on the verge of betting that Boris Johnson will be PM until 2024 or later. 4/1 on Ladbrokes seems like good odds to me.
I don't think the tories have the courage it will take to oust him. I kind of hope I'm proved wrong.
Has Rishi ever told the House of Commons he never attended a party in Downing Street during the lockdown period? Because that is why Boris will have to resign.
Don't think Rishi's every spoken in the House about it. He's mentioned it in interviews, IIRC, saying something anodyne.
Incidentally, we sometimes see pictures of him with a glass of beer in his hand, when we know he's teetotal; I realise it's 'publicity', but surely that's dishonest. Personally, while I do, I have no problem with people who choose not to drink alcoholic drinks. It's a respectable lifestyle choice which is different to mine, that's all.
I understand alcohol-free beer is a thing.
Admittedly, never met anyone who drinks it.....
I drink low and alcohol free beer. It’s fine. A nice option to have on a night out if you’re driving or just don’t want booze.
Low alcohol and alcohol free beer has come a long way from the 1990’s when I worked in pubs and only had Kaliber as an option. As others have said there are a few decent ones now, nicely filling the gap between booze and soft drinks. You do have to find what you like. Some taste like watered down beer. Some are plain weird. Ghost ship and nanny state are decent.
Punk AF is good too, and of the lagers Heiniken. Thornbridge do an AF Stout that is quite drinkable too.
Most contain some residual alcohol, so not truly alcohol free, and it is one of the fastest growing sectors of the market, Alcohol free wine is undrinkable though.
According to the non-alcohol pitch on Dragons' Den the other week, non-alcoholic in the UK is officially 0.5 degrees and below. Even a ripe banana has 0.5 degrees of alcohol.
I didn't fact-check this.
I'm teetotal and love it.
On the Apprentice too, where the useless numpties had to create and market one. Absolutely clueless this series. I wouldn't employ them to do the wash8ng up.
Has Rishi ever told the House of Commons he never attended a party in Downing Street during the lockdown period? Because that is why Boris will have to resign.
You cannot have a PM breaking the law in office, if both Boris and Sunak are fined Boris' premiership would be over and Sunak's leadership campaign ended before it began
I'm on the verge of betting on Boris Johnson staying until 2024. 4/1 on Ladbrokes.
I think he's an out-and-out turd but I'm unconvinced about this legend of the ruthless tory party. He's only had half a term in office and that was covid-ridden.
Are the tory MPs ready to see the writing on the wall? I'm not convinced.
Note the election may be 2023 rather than 2024.
No chance
I don't normally post minimalist dismissives, so just to expand: I really don't think there's a scintilla of a chance of a General Election next year. There are far too many storm clouds and Starmer is way too strong. Even 'if' they changed leader they will leave it to 2024 which, afterall will still only be 4 years and a five months since the last one.
I agree, it is hard to see a scenario where it would be advantageous for a new leader to go early and they are not likely to be even all that new by 2023. Better to play the longer game and hope memories of the current shambles fades away.
Has Rishi ever told the House of Commons he never attended a party in Downing Street during the lockdown period? Because that is why Boris will have to resign.
Don't think Rishi's every spoken in the House about it. He's mentioned it in interviews, IIRC, saying something anodyne.
Incidentally, we sometimes see pictures of him with a glass of beer in his hand, when we know he's teetotal; I realise it's 'publicity', but surely that's dishonest. Personally, while I do, I have no problem with people who choose not to drink alcoholic drinks. It's a respectable lifestyle choice which is different to mine, that's all.
I understand alcohol-free beer is a thing.
Admittedly, never met anyone who drinks it.....
I drink low and alcohol free beer. It’s fine. A nice option to have on a night out if you’re driving or just don’t want booze.
Low alcohol and alcohol free beer has come a long way from the 1990’s when I worked in pubs and only had Kaliber as an option. As others have said there are a few decent ones now, nicely filling the gap between booze and soft drinks. You do have to find what you like. Some taste like watered down beer. Some are plain weird. Ghost ship and nanny state are decent.
Punk AF is good too, and of the lagers Heiniken. Thornbridge do an AF Stout that is quite drinkable too.
Most contain some residual alcohol, so not truly alcohol free, and it is one of the fastest growing sectors of the market, Alcohol free wine is undrinkable though.
According to the non-alcohol pitch on Dragons' Den the other week, non-alcoholic in the UK is officially 0.5 degrees and below. Even a ripe banana has 0.5 degrees of alcohol.
I didn't fact-check this.
I'm teetotal and love it.
On the Apprentice too, where the useless numpties had to create and market one. Absolutely clueless this series. I wouldn't employ them to do the wash8ng up.
Good morning one and all. Although 'all' isn't many of us yet!
I see the 70th anniversary of the the Queen's accession, and consequent run up to the 69th anniversary of the coronation is beginning to stir leader and feature writers. Probably to the advantage of the PM. Something else to talk about.
Perhaps more instructive though that her mind seems to be dwelling more on death and the succession.
There is clearly something we are not being told.
Also rather instructive the way she seems to have taken to Camilla. Which I gather is typical of people who know her personally. One regiment she was honorary Colonel of thought the world of her because any time a soldier was injured she took the trouble to hand write them a note wishing them a speedy recovery, along with a bottle of good whisky.
Whether the Queen’s recent very public endorsements will be enough to overcome the lingering public hostility of Diana’s many admirers is a different question. The last thread suggests the answer is ‘no.’
Indeed, but the question is how many people that comprises. I'd guess fewer than there used to be, but still a fair number. It still surprises me - adultery is shameful behaviour but there is the matter of proportion.
As for her thoughts on death and succession and something we're not being told, she's 95 and her 99 year old husband died, the thought is bound to come up. Especially as she has fewer engagements.
I think her health is not great, and we are kept in the dark about this. Tbh we don’t have a right to know anyway, it should be personal. It does seem clear that wheels are turning though. I still think the jubilee is a gamble, although the well documented phenomenon of people staying alive just long enough for the big event (e.g Christmas, anniversary etc) only to pass quickly after may well happen. I had a disagreement with my m in l yesterday about the concept of the royal family. I abhor the fact that they are given special status, arising simply through chance of who they were born to. I would abolish the royal concept in a heart beat. And yet I have huge respect for the queen who has always shown the right way to lead and behave. And yet next we face the moron. He was unfairly treated over marriage, as clearly he should have been allowed to marry a divorcee. Ultimately that caused all the issues with Diana. But he still remains an arrogant, moron.
But, thanks to Camilla, he is now a humanised arrogant moron. She has been really good for him and I think the Queen is grateful.
If you want to skip Charles, just take him on a walk up Calton hill and point him in the direction of the new turd hotel.
IDS still backs Boris on Marr but says he must regain the public's trust.
Not my interpretation of what he said. If you mean he hasn't sent in a letter, well you are right, but not exactly wholehearted support.
IDS is close to Raab, if Raab did become PM (which relies on Boris and Sunak getting fined), expect IDS to return to the Cabinet
Didn't know that. Thanks for the info. However I don't think Boris will resign if fined. Might depend on Rishi who might think it appropriate to resign.
Yes, for Raab to become PM he needs both Boris and Sunak to go.
Boris would lose a VONC if fined and Sunak would lose a leadership election if fined too and probably would have to pull out and not even stand
Has Rishi ever told the House of Commons he never attended a party in Downing Street during the lockdown period? Because that is why Boris will have to resign.
Don't think Rishi's every spoken in the House about it. He's mentioned it in interviews, IIRC, saying something anodyne.
Incidentally, we sometimes see pictures of him with a glass of beer in his hand, when we know he's teetotal; I realise it's 'publicity', but surely that's dishonest. Personally, while I do, I have no problem with people who choose not to drink alcoholic drinks. It's a respectable lifestyle choice which is different to mine, that's all.
I understand alcohol-free beer is a thing.
Admittedly, never met anyone who drinks it.....
I drink low and alcohol free beer. It’s fine. A nice option to have on a night out if you’re driving or just don’t want booze.
Low alcohol and alcohol free beer has come a long way from the 1990’s when I worked in pubs and only had Kaliber as an option. As others have said there are a few decent ones now, nicely filling the gap between booze and soft drinks. You do have to find what you like. Some taste like watered down beer. Some are plain weird. Ghost ship and nanny state are decent.
Punk AF is good too, and of the lagers Heiniken. Thornbridge do an AF Stout that is quite drinkable too.
Most contain some residual alcohol, so not truly alcohol free, and it is one of the fastest growing sectors of the market, Alcohol free wine is undrinkable though.
These are fine if you are going through a period of not drinking. You can actually adapt to them and give up alcohol completely, as I did for a year. The beers at 0.5% have a more authentic bitterness in my experience than the 0.0% beers, which just taste sweet.
I had an idea yesterday: Mix Punk AF with Punk IPA (or similar). You get a drinkable IPA at about 2.5% alcohol.
At the Sydney Cricket Ground some years ago I bought a 'lager' which was 2%, sold because the fans wouldn't get drunk on it. That apparently wasn't the case, but how one managed to stomach enough of it was beyond me.
Michael Gove, a Scottish fresher in 1985, told Johnson’s biographer Andrew Gimson: “The first time I saw him was in the Union bar . . . He seemed like a kindly, Oxford character, but he was really there like a great basking shark waiting for freshers to swim towards him.” Gove told Gimson: “I was Boris’s stooge. I became a votary of the Boris cult.”
In an essay for The Oxford Myth (1988), a book edited by his sister Rachel, Johnson advised aspiring student politicians to assemble “a disciplined and deluded collection of stooges” to get out the vote. “Lonely girls from the women’s colleges” who “back their largely male candidates with a porky decisiveness” were particularly useful, he wrote. “For these young women, machine politics offers human friction and warmth.” Reading this, you realise why almost all Union presidents who become Tory politicians are men. (Thatcher’s domain was OUCA, where she was president in 1946.)
Johnson added: “The tragedy of the stooge is that . . . he wants so much to believe that his relationship with the candidate is special that he shuts out the truth. The terrible art of the candidate is to coddle the self-deception of the stooge.”
Has Rishi ever told the House of Commons he never attended a party in Downing Street during the lockdown period? Because that is why Boris will have to resign.
You cannot have a PM breaking the law in office, if both Boris and Sunak are fined Boris' premiership would be over and Sunak's leadership campaign ended before it began
I don’t think there’s anyone here who disagrees with you that Boris needs to go. The point rather is that he is so shameless and corrupted by ego and the trappings of power, that he would not resign even if fined by the police to have broken his own laws. With he each passing day he somehow manages to show himself in an even less flattering light than the day before.
Has Rishi ever told the House of Commons he never attended a party in Downing Street during the lockdown period? Because that is why Boris will have to resign.
You cannot have a PM breaking the law in office, if both Boris and Sunak are fined Boris' premiership would be over and Sunak's leadership campaign ended before it began
From a loyalist I think that is a very useful indication of where even loyalists may have to draw a line. Since I can easily see Boris himself arguing that he done wrong (not believing he had, but a fine is a fine) but that he was still the best man for the job and there was no requirement for him to resign. Dorries and JRM would still be in his corner.
Good morning one and all. Although 'all' isn't many of us yet!
I see the 70th anniversary of the the Queen's accession, and consequent run up to the 69th anniversary of the coronation is beginning to stir leader and feature writers. Probably to the advantage of the PM. Something else to talk about.
Perhaps more instructive though that her mind seems to be dwelling more on death and the succession.
There is clearly something we are not being told.
Also rather instructive the way she seems to have taken to Camilla. Which I gather is typical of people who know her personally. One regiment she was honorary Colonel of thought the world of her because any time a soldier was injured she took the trouble to hand write them a note wishing them a speedy recovery, along with a bottle of good whisky.
Whether the Queen’s recent very public endorsements will be enough to overcome the lingering public hostility of Diana’s many admirers is a different question. The last thread suggests the answer is ‘no.’
Indeed, but the question is how many people that comprises. I'd guess fewer than there used to be, but still a fair number. It still surprises me - adultery is shameful behaviour but there is the matter of proportion.
As for her thoughts on death and succession and something we're not being told, she's 95 and her 99 year old husband died, the thought is bound to come up. Especially as she has fewer engagements.
I think her health is not great, and we are kept in the dark about this. Tbh we don’t have a right to know anyway, it should be personal. It does seem clear that wheels are turning though. I still think the jubilee is a gamble, although the well documented phenomenon of people staying alive just long enough for the big event (e.g Christmas, anniversary etc) only to pass quickly after may well happen. I had a disagreement with my m in l yesterday about the concept of the royal family. I abhor the fact that they are given special status, arising simply through chance of who they were born to. I would abolish the royal concept in a heart beat. And yet I have huge respect for the queen who has always shown the right way to lead and behave. And yet next we face the moron. He was unfairly treated over marriage, as clearly he should have been allowed to marry a divorcee. Ultimately that caused all the issues with Diana. But he still remains an arrogant, moron.
But, thanks to Camilla, he is now a humanised arrogant moron. She has been really good for him and I think the Queen is grateful.
If you want to skip Charles, just take him on a walk up Calton hill and point him in the direction of the new turd hotel.
I was vaguely tempted to have a night there just to see if its interior could match the ugliness of the exterior but searching for the Turd on booking.com didn't throw up any availability.
I'm on the verge of betting on Boris Johnson staying until 2024. 4/1 on Ladbrokes.
I think he's an out-and-out turd but I'm unconvinced about this legend of the ruthless tory party. He's only had half a term in office and that was covid-ridden.
Are the tory MPs ready to see the writing on the wall? I'm not convinced.
Note the election may be 2023 rather than 2024.
No chance
In which case lay it then!
No thanks.
As I posted originally, without any need to amend, I am on the verge of betting that Boris Johnson will be PM until 2024 or later. 4/1 on Ladbrokes seems like good odds to me.
I don't think the tories have the courage it will take to oust him. I kind of hope I'm proved wrong.
I agree he will stay, have bet that way and think 4/1 is fine. Laying a 2022 exit to get 2023 onside is better imo. You get the 23 election, plus continued scandals into next year, and the party revolting/him quitting if they see a 24 election is very likely to be lost.
Has Rishi ever told the House of Commons he never attended a party in Downing Street during the lockdown period? Because that is why Boris will have to resign.
You cannot have a PM breaking the law in office, if both Boris and Sunak are fined Boris' premiership would be over and Sunak's leadership campaign ended before it began
Regrettably you are right though I would much rather the electorate were the ones sending Boris Johnson packing from No.10.
Even if Johnson is given a fixed penalty he won't resign. I'm not sure his MPs will remove him even then.
He'll dismiss it as no different to a parking ticket. Unfortunate but not part of the bigger picture about how he 'got all the big decisions right', 'had a spectacular vaccine rollout', 'helped unemployment disappear', 'Got Brexit done', 'created the fastest growing economy since records began', has a cock bigger than God's etc. etc.
Has Rishi ever told the House of Commons he never attended a party in Downing Street during the lockdown period? Because that is why Boris will have to resign.
Don't think Rishi's every spoken in the House about it. He's mentioned it in interviews, IIRC, saying something anodyne.
Incidentally, we sometimes see pictures of him with a glass of beer in his hand, when we know he's teetotal; I realise it's 'publicity', but surely that's dishonest. Personally, while I do, I have no problem with people who choose not to drink alcoholic drinks. It's a respectable lifestyle choice which is different to mine, that's all.
I understand alcohol-free beer is a thing.
Admittedly, never met anyone who drinks it.....
I drink low and alcohol free beer. It’s fine. A nice option to have on a night out if you’re driving or just don’t want booze.
Low alcohol and alcohol free beer has come a long way from the 1990’s when I worked in pubs and only had Kaliber as an option. As others have said there are a few decent ones now, nicely filling the gap between booze and soft drinks. You do have to find what you like. Some taste like watered down beer. Some are plain weird. Ghost ship and nanny state are decent.
Punk AF is good too, and of the lagers Heiniken. Thornbridge do an AF Stout that is quite drinkable too.
Most contain some residual alcohol, so not truly alcohol free, and it is one of the fastest growing sectors of the market, Alcohol free wine is undrinkable though.
These are fine if you are going through a period of not drinking. You can actually adapt to them and give up alcohol completely, as I did for a year. The beers at 0.5% have a more authentic bitterness in my experience than the 0.0% beers, which just taste sweet.
I had an idea yesterday: Mix Punk AF with Punk IPA (or similar). You get a drinkable IPA at about 2.5% alcohol.
At the Sydney Cricket Ground some years ago I bought a 'lager' which was 2%, sold because the fans wouldn't get drunk on it. That apparently wasn't the case, but how one managed to stomach enough of it was beyond me.
Stand in the Sydney summer sun for 10 hours and it wont take much at all to get tipsy!
Has Rishi ever told the House of Commons he never attended a party in Downing Street during the lockdown period? Because that is why Boris will have to resign.
You cannot have a PM breaking the law in office, if both Boris and Sunak are fined Boris' premiership would be over and Sunak's leadership campaign ended before it began
Plod will probably let Johnson get away with it. Ruining thick 19-year-olds with £10,000 fines for having their mates round for beers is easy and requires no backbone; going after the head of government is a different matter.
However, if Johnson does get fined he won't quit. The idea that anything so trivial as breaking the law in office will persuade an individual as self-centred and amoral as the current Prime Minister to resign seems improbable, to put it mildly.
And here's another thing: if it comes to pass and he decides to dig his heels in, I fully expect some people to forget about their previous opposition to law-breaking Prime Ministers and carry on backing him regardless...
Even if Johnson is given a fixed penalty he won't resign. I'm not sure his MPs will remove him even then.
He'll dismiss it as no different to a parking ticket. Unfortunate but not part of the bigger picture about how he 'got all the big decisions right', 'had a spectacular vaccine rollout', 'helped unemployment disappear', 'created the fastest growing economy since records began', has a cock bigger than God's etc. etc.
Has Rishi ever told the House of Commons he never attended a party in Downing Street during the lockdown period? Because that is why Boris will have to resign.
Don't think Rishi's every spoken in the House about it. He's mentioned it in interviews, IIRC, saying something anodyne.
Incidentally, we sometimes see pictures of him with a glass of beer in his hand, when we know he's teetotal; I realise it's 'publicity', but surely that's dishonest. Personally, while I do, I have no problem with people who choose not to drink alcoholic drinks. It's a respectable lifestyle choice which is different to mine, that's all.
I understand alcohol-free beer is a thing.
Admittedly, never met anyone who drinks it.....
I drink low and alcohol free beer. It’s fine. A nice option to have on a night out if you’re driving or just don’t want booze.
Low alcohol and alcohol free beer has come a long way from the 1990’s when I worked in pubs and only had Kaliber as an option. As others have said there are a few decent ones now, nicely filling the gap between booze and soft drinks. You do have to find what you like. Some taste like watered down beer. Some are plain weird. Ghost ship and nanny state are decent.
Punk AF is good too, and of the lagers Heiniken. Thornbridge do an AF Stout that is quite drinkable too.
Most contain some residual alcohol, so not truly alcohol free, and it is one of the fastest growing sectors of the market, Alcohol free wine is undrinkable though.
According to the non-alcohol pitch on Dragons' Den the other week, non-alcoholic in the UK is officially 0.5 degrees and below. Even a ripe banana has 0.5 degrees of alcohol.
I didn't fact-check this.
I'm teetotal and love it.
On the Apprentice too, where the useless numpties had to create and market one. Absolutely clueless this series. I wouldn't employ them to do the wash8ng up.
I thought there was a six month cut off for this stuff?
Fair or otherwise it would leave him in the clear. And we could have the Gray report in full....
If there is a six month cutoff, why are the police investigating at all?
Is it 6 months from the date of incident, or from the date that the police became aware of it?
If it's a formal statute of limitations, it should be the date of the incident. E.g. you cannot sue for libel more than a year after publication, or receive a speeding ticket after more than fourteen days have passed.
Doubly so when there were police officers in attendance, at the time and place where the alleged offences occurred.
Were I advising anyone involved, I would be strongly suggesting that they don’t accept an FPN, and insist on going to court with a good lawyer.
The irony is, in this case they can't do that. If they take an FPN it's possible the police could keep that quiet. If they go to court the case will dominate the media for days, whatever the outcome.
Michael Gove, a Scottish fresher in 1985, told Johnson’s biographer Andrew Gimson: “The first time I saw him was in the Union bar . . . He seemed like a kindly, Oxford character, but he was really there like a great basking shark waiting for freshers to swim towards him.” Gove told Gimson: “I was Boris’s stooge. I became a votary of the Boris cult.”
In an essay for The Oxford Myth (1988), a book edited by his sister Rachel, Johnson advised aspiring student politicians to assemble “a disciplined and deluded collection of stooges” to get out the vote. “Lonely girls from the women’s colleges” who “back their largely male candidates with a porky decisiveness” were particularly useful, he wrote. “For these young women, machine politics offers human friction and warmth.” Reading this, you realise why almost all Union presidents who become Tory politicians are men. (Thatcher’s domain was OUCA, where she was president in 1946.)
Johnson added: “The tragedy of the stooge is that . . . he wants so much to believe that his relationship with the candidate is special that he shuts out the truth. The terrible art of the candidate is to coddle the self-deception of the stooge.”
Even by the standards of senior politicians that is stunningly cynical, and should be quoted extensively at his defenders.
I know there is a subset of the rich whose "friendships" are defined only in terms of back scratching and "what can they do for me" and all parties tacitly know this. Clear that Boris operates in a very bare walled version of such a world
Has Rishi ever told the House of Commons he never attended a party in Downing Street during the lockdown period? Because that is why Boris will have to resign.
Don't think Rishi's every spoken in the House about it. He's mentioned it in interviews, IIRC, saying something anodyne.
Incidentally, we sometimes see pictures of him with a glass of beer in his hand, when we know he's teetotal; I realise it's 'publicity', but surely that's dishonest. Personally, while I do, I have no problem with people who choose not to drink alcoholic drinks. It's a respectable lifestyle choice which is different to mine, that's all.
I understand alcohol-free beer is a thing.
Admittedly, never met anyone who drinks it.....
I drink low and alcohol free beer. It’s fine. A nice option to have on a night out if you’re driving or just don’t want booze.
Low alcohol and alcohol free beer has come a long way from the 1990’s when I worked in pubs and only had Kaliber as an option. As others have said there are a few decent ones now, nicely filling the gap between booze and soft drinks. You do have to find what you like. Some taste like watered down beer. Some are plain weird. Ghost ship and nanny state are decent.
Punk AF is good too, and of the lagers Heiniken. Thornbridge do an AF Stout that is quite drinkable too.
Most contain some residual alcohol, so not truly alcohol free, and it is one of the fastest growing sectors of the market, Alcohol free wine is undrinkable though.
These are fine if you are going through a period of not drinking. You can actually adapt to them and give up alcohol completely, as I did for a year. The beers at 0.5% have a more authentic bitterness in my experience than the 0.0% beers, which just taste sweet.
I had an idea yesterday: Mix Punk AF with Punk IPA (or similar). You get a drinkable IPA at about 2.5% alcohol.
At the Sydney Cricket Ground some years ago I bought a 'lager' which was 2%, sold because the fans wouldn't get drunk on it. That apparently wasn't the case, but how one managed to stomach enough of it was beyond me.
Stand in the Sydney summer sun for 10 hours and it wont take much at all to get tipsy!
One doesn't stand at cricket, and that's why they have those hats with the corks.
Even if Johnson is given a fixed penalty he won't resign. I'm not sure his MPs will remove him even then.
He'll dismiss it as no different to a parking ticket. Unfortunate but not part of the bigger picture about how he 'got all the big decisions right', 'had a spectacular vaccine rollout', 'helped unemployment disappear', 'created the fastest growing economy since records began', has a cock bigger than God's etc. etc.
You missed out 'Got Brexit Done'.
Sorted! ooops. How could I miss that?
Though I'm still slightly baffled when people like Leon proudly proclaim it because I've no idea what it means. Must be just me but what exactly is 'got Brexit done'? I was a Remainer and accept we left the EU but, meh, so what? I don't notice anything better. Just heaps more chaos and a country that has become a global laughing stock.
Even if Johnson is given a fixed penalty he won't resign. I'm not sure his MPs will remove him even then.
He'll dismiss it as no different to a parking ticket. Unfortunate but not part of the bigger picture about how he 'got all the big decisions right', 'had a spectacular vaccine rollout', 'helped unemployment disappear', 'Got Brexit done', 'created the fastest growing economy since records began', has a cock bigger than God's etc. etc.
To be honest I am a lot more concerned about the blatant lying than I would be about any almost certainly time barred FPN. That is why making that yet another excuse to delay action is absurd. Tory MPs need to focus on what matters. The PM lied to Parliament repeatedly. End of.
OT Neighbours faces axe after being dropped by Channel 5. This is the real news.
The Australian soap Neighbours, which launched the international careers of countless local stars including Kylie Minogue, Jason Donovan, Margot Robbie and Guy Pearce, has been axed in the UK in a move likely to sound the death knell for the iconic show.
I do like the fact that the BBC uses the same article (and words) and has a picture of Scott and Charlene! From about 1988 if I suspect rightly. It might explain the lack of popularity if you have to use a still from the show from nearly thirty five years ago.
Obviously HYUFD watches it, but does anyone else? I haven't even heard it mentioned by anyone as they watch it for well over a decade.
Interesting notion, that Johnson can bring discipline to - an apparently out of control - Downing Street, by replacing experienced professionals with part-time loyalist mediocrities, because nobody qualified will now work with him. AND try to spin this as a positive move. https://twitter.com/sturdyAlex/status/1490263580054274052
Has Rishi ever told the House of Commons he never attended a party in Downing Street during the lockdown period? Because that is why Boris will have to resign.
Don't think Rishi's every spoken in the House about it. He's mentioned it in interviews, IIRC, saying something anodyne.
Incidentally, we sometimes see pictures of him with a glass of beer in his hand, when we know he's teetotal; I realise it's 'publicity', but surely that's dishonest. Personally, while I do, I have no problem with people who choose not to drink alcoholic drinks. It's a respectable lifestyle choice which is different to mine, that's all.
I understand alcohol-free beer is a thing.
Admittedly, never met anyone who drinks it.....
I drink low and alcohol free beer. It’s fine. A nice option to have on a night out if you’re driving or just don’t want booze.
Low alcohol and alcohol free beer has come a long way from the 1990’s when I worked in pubs and only had Kaliber as an option. As others have said there are a few decent ones now, nicely filling the gap between booze and soft drinks. You do have to find what you like. Some taste like watered down beer. Some are plain weird. Ghost ship and nanny state are decent.
Punk AF is good too, and of the lagers Heiniken. Thornbridge do an AF Stout that is quite drinkable too.
Most contain some residual alcohol, so not truly alcohol free, and it is one of the fastest growing sectors of the market, Alcohol free wine is undrinkable though.
These are fine if you are going through a period of not drinking. You can actually adapt to them and give up alcohol completely, as I did for a year. The beers at 0.5% have a more authentic bitterness in my experience than the 0.0% beers, which just taste sweet.
I had an idea yesterday: Mix Punk AF with Punk IPA (or similar). You get a drinkable IPA at about 2.5% alcohol.
At the Sydney Cricket Ground some years ago I bought a 'lager' which was 2%, sold because the fans wouldn't get drunk on it. That apparently wasn't the case, but how one managed to stomach enough of it was beyond me.
Stand in the Sydney summer sun for 10 hours and it wont take much at all to get tipsy!
One doesn't stand at cricket, and that's why they have those hats with the corks.
I'm on the verge of betting on Boris Johnson staying until 2024. 4/1 on Ladbrokes.
I think he's an out-and-out turd but I'm unconvinced about this legend of the ruthless tory party. He's only had half a term in office and that was covid-ridden.
Are the tory MPs ready to see the writing on the wall? I'm not convinced.
Note the election may be 2023 rather than 2024.
No chance
In which case lay it then!
No thanks.
As I posted originally, without any need to amend, I am on the verge of betting that Boris Johnson will be PM until 2024 or later. 4/1 on Ladbrokes seems like good odds to me.
I don't think the tories have the courage it will take to oust him. I kind of hope I'm proved wrong.
I agree he will stay, have bet that way and think 4/1 is fine. Laying a 2022 exit to get 2023 onside is better imo. You get the 23 election, plus continued scandals into next year, and the party revolting/him quitting if they see a 24 election is very likely to be lost.
The bet on Starmer as next PM is in effect a bet on Johnson surviving to the GE. Better value IMO.
Has Rishi ever told the House of Commons he never attended a party in Downing Street during the lockdown period? Because that is why Boris will have to resign.
You cannot have a PM breaking the law in office, if both Boris and Sunak are fined Boris' premiership would be over and Sunak's leadership campaign ended before it began
From a loyalist I think that is a very useful indication of where even loyalists may have to draw a line. Since I can easily see Boris himself arguing that he done wrong (not believing he had, but a fine is a fine) but that he was still the best man for the job and there was no requirement for him to resign. Dorries and JRM would still be in his corner.
He'll say it is about the equivalent of parking on double-yellow lines (ignoring the fact he painted the lines himself.)
The first set of 'revelations' from the Ashcroft Carrie book appear to be, allegedly:
- she was having an affair with another unnamed married Tory MP (unnamed, although the article isn't without potential clues) before she settled on Johnson;
- early in their relationship he tried to appoint her as his chief of staff, opposed by staff and ministers;
- for Johnson, Carrie was always just a fling and only turned serious when his wife finally walked away; you get the impression that Johnson only managed to function as a normal person because his wife used to organise his life;
- she vetoed his first choice of politician to run his leadership campaign;
- A friend describes their relationship as 'emotionally disruptive', another that it is 'toxic'
plus a load of Cummo-type material about how she interferes in everything, and some tittle-tattle about her life prior.
Not clear how this plays into the leadership - those against him will take it as another set of danger signals whereas supporters may try and deflect more blame onto her - when the focus ought to be on how it is his character flaws that underlie all of these problems.
I don’t doubt that it’s true but the timing is a form of psycho-ops. Undermine from within and try and nudge them towards a resignation rather than a messy beheading.
Personally I'd take a piece like that (as either of them) as extra motivation to stay on and show the bastards that we can't be intimidated or smeared out of office. There are other reasons to consider resignation, but a book on Carrie's love life isn't one of them.
Even if Johnson is given a fixed penalty he won't resign. I'm not sure his MPs will remove him even then.
He'll dismiss it as no different to a parking ticket. Unfortunate but not part of the bigger picture about how he 'got all the big decisions right', 'had a spectacular vaccine rollout', 'helped unemployment disappear', 'Got Brexit done', 'created the fastest growing economy since records began', has a cock bigger than God's etc. etc.
No way are the Met gonna give Johnson a fixed penalty. I reckon he'll stick around now till May and if the local elections aren't completely terrible he'll hang on, cos the Tory MPs do not have a collective backbone.
Has Rishi ever told the House of Commons he never attended a party in Downing Street during the lockdown period? Because that is why Boris will have to resign.
Don't think Rishi's every spoken in the House about it. He's mentioned it in interviews, IIRC, saying something anodyne.
Incidentally, we sometimes see pictures of him with a glass of beer in his hand, when we know he's teetotal; I realise it's 'publicity', but surely that's dishonest. Personally, while I do, I have no problem with people who choose not to drink alcoholic drinks. It's a respectable lifestyle choice which is different to mine, that's all.
I understand alcohol-free beer is a thing.
Admittedly, never met anyone who drinks it.....
I drink low and alcohol free beer. It’s fine. A nice option to have on a night out if you’re driving or just don’t want booze.
Low alcohol and alcohol free beer has come a long way from the 1990’s when I worked in pubs and only had Kaliber as an option. As others have said there are a few decent ones now, nicely filling the gap between booze and soft drinks. You do have to find what you like. Some taste like watered down beer. Some are plain weird. Ghost ship and nanny state are decent.
Punk AF is good too, and of the lagers Heiniken. Thornbridge do an AF Stout that is quite drinkable too.
Most contain some residual alcohol, so not truly alcohol free, and it is one of the fastest growing sectors of the market, Alcohol free wine is undrinkable though.
These are fine if you are going through a period of not drinking. You can actually adapt to them and give up alcohol completely, as I did for a year. The beers at 0.5% have a more authentic bitterness in my experience than the 0.0% beers, which just taste sweet.
I had an idea yesterday: Mix Punk AF with Punk IPA (or similar). You get a drinkable IPA at about 2.5% alcohol.
At the Sydney Cricket Ground some years ago I bought a 'lager' which was 2%, sold because the fans wouldn't get drunk on it. That apparently wasn't the case, but how one managed to stomach enough of it was beyond me.
Stand in the Sydney summer sun for 10 hours and it wont take much at all to get tipsy!
One doesn't stand at cricket, and that's why they have those hats with the corks.
Much of the Barmy Army beg to differ!
The Barmy Army tends to be seated much of the time and otherwise you've made the point!
Even if Johnson is given a fixed penalty he won't resign. I'm not sure his MPs will remove him even then.
He'll dismiss it as no different to a parking ticket. Unfortunate but not part of the bigger picture about how he 'got all the big decisions right', 'had a spectacular vaccine rollout', 'helped unemployment disappear', 'Got Brexit done', 'created the fastest growing economy since records began', has a cock bigger than God's etc. etc.
To be honest I am a lot more concerned about the blatant lying than I would be about any almost certainly time barred FPN. That is why making that yet another excuse to delay action is absurd. Tory MPs need to focus on what matters. The PM lied to Parliament repeatedly. End of.
I agree. And it's quite amazing the way (like HYUFD) he has got away with shifting the goalposts. The ministerial code used to be that if you lied to parliament you were out and Johnson even seemed to accept that.
He clearly did lie to parliament.
Then it was Sue Gray this, Sue Gray that. Well, that was after it was Simon Case this, Simon Case that (remember him?)
Then it was all about waiting for the police blah blah blah blah
He's an apparently unflushable turd and the tory MPs lack the courage to pull the chain
I'm on the verge of betting on Boris Johnson staying until 2024. 4/1 on Ladbrokes.
I think he's an out-and-out turd but I'm unconvinced about this legend of the ruthless tory party. He's only had half a term in office and that was covid-ridden.
Are the tory MPs ready to see the writing on the wall? I'm not convinced.
Note the election may be 2023 rather than 2024.
No chance
In which case lay it then!
No thanks.
As I posted originally, without any need to amend, I am on the verge of betting that Boris Johnson will be PM until 2024 or later. 4/1 on Ladbrokes seems like good odds to me.
I don't think the tories have the courage it will take to oust him. I kind of hope I'm proved wrong.
I agree he will stay, have bet that way and think 4/1 is fine. Laying a 2022 exit to get 2023 onside is better imo. You get the 23 election, plus continued scandals into next year, and the party revolting/him quitting if they see a 24 election is very likely to be lost.
The bet on Starmer as next PM is in effect a bet on Johnson surviving to the GE. Better value IMO.
I'm on the verge of betting on Boris Johnson staying until 2024. 4/1 on Ladbrokes.
I think he's an out-and-out turd but I'm unconvinced about this legend of the ruthless tory party. He's only had half a term in office and that was covid-ridden.
Are the tory MPs ready to see the writing on the wall? I'm not convinced.
Note the election may be 2023 rather than 2024.
No chance
In which case lay it then!
No thanks.
As I posted originally, without any need to amend, I am on the verge of betting that Boris Johnson will be PM until 2024 or later. 4/1 on Ladbrokes seems like good odds to me.
I don't think the tories have the courage it will take to oust him. I kind of hope I'm proved wrong.
I agree he will stay, have bet that way and think 4/1 is fine. Laying a 2022 exit to get 2023 onside is better imo. You get the 23 election, plus continued scandals into next year, and the party revolting/him quitting if they see a 24 election is very likely to be lost.
The bet on Starmer as next PM is in effect a bet on Johnson surviving to the GE. Better value IMO.
Good spot. Like it. Obvious but I missed it. Thank you.
(Well unless like HY you believe Johnson will win in 2024)
brilliant column by @alexmassie - a comprehensive evisceration of the SNP’s ludicrous claims that another country would pay pensions in an independent Scotland
Just as Boris Johnson is stained and shamed by his arms-length relationship with the truth, so are Nicola Sturgeon and lan Blackford. They will cook up any old nonsense if they are persuaded that doing so will help you swallow independence. A party that thinks its lies are ennobled by the cause they are meant to further is a party that forfeits any right to be trusted on any issue. And since politics is impossible without some honesty and trust. one may only wonder why the SNP leadership wishes to set fire to its reserves of those qualities. For if they will lie about this, they will lie about anything.
OT Neighbours faces axe after being dropped by Channel 5. This is the real news.
The Australian soap Neighbours, which launched the international careers of countless local stars including Kylie Minogue, Jason Donovan, Margot Robbie and Guy Pearce, has been axed in the UK in a move likely to sound the death knell for the iconic show.
I do like the fact that the BBC uses the same article (and words) and has a picture of Scott and Charlene! From about 1988 if I suspect rightly. It might explain the lack of popularity if you have to use a still from the show from nearly thirty five years ago.
Obviously HYFUD watches it, but does anyone else? I haven't even heard it mentioned by anyone as they watch it for well over a decade.
We visited Melbourne in 2011 and while there went on a neighbour's tour which was interesting
Since returning I have watched neighbour's largely because of this visit, but also my great affection for Melbourne and Victoria
It is rubbish but there we are, and I doubt I will be overcome with regrets once it is gone
I thought there was a six month cut off for this stuff?
Fair or otherwise it would leave him in the clear. And we could have the Gray report in full....
If there is a six month cutoff, why are the police investigating at all?
Is it 6 months from the date of incident, or from the date that the police became aware of it?
If it's a formal statute of limitations, it should be the date of the incident. E.g. you cannot sue for libel more than a year after publication, or receive a speeding ticket after more than fourteen days have passed.
Doubly so when there were police officers in attendance, at the time and place where the alleged offences occurred.
Were I advising anyone involved, I would be strongly suggesting that they don’t accept an FPN, and insist on going to court with a good lawyer.
The irony is, in this case they can't do that. If they take an FPN it's possible the police could keep that quiet. If they go to court the case will dominate the media for days, whatever the outcome.
Yes, it’s a different calculation for the politicians than the staff, those who have been elected have to consider the wider public view and media aspect.
Can the politicians get away with saying it was no more than a speeding ticket?
Do the junior staff want to sign something that admits they did wrong, when they were in their place of work and doing what very senior managers suggested they did?
If Scotland chooses to become a foreign country, then working English, Welsh and Northern Irish taxpayers should not pay for a foreign country's pension liabilities. GUY OPPERMAN U.K. Pensions Minister
Good morning one and all. Although 'all' isn't many of us yet!
I see the 70th anniversary of the the Queen's accession, and consequent run up to the 69th anniversary of the coronation is beginning to stir leader and feature writers. Probably to the advantage of the PM. Something else to talk about.
Perhaps more instructive though that her mind seems to be dwelling more on death and the succession.
There is clearly something we are not being told.
Also rather instructive the way she seems to have taken to Camilla. Which I gather is typical of people who know her personally. One regiment she was honorary Colonel of thought the world of her because any time a soldier was injured she took the trouble to hand write them a note wishing them a speedy recovery, along with a bottle of good whisky.
Whether the Queen’s recent very public endorsements will be enough to overcome the lingering public hostility of Diana’s many admirers is a different question. The last thread suggests the answer is ‘no.’
Indeed, but the question is how many people that comprises. I'd guess fewer than there used to be, but still a fair number. It still surprises me - adultery is shameful behaviour but there is the matter of proportion.
As for her thoughts on death and succession and something we're not being told, she's 95 and her 99 year old husband died, the thought is bound to come up. Especially as she has fewer engagements.
I think her health is not great, and we are kept in the dark about this. Tbh we don’t have a right to know anyway, it should be personal. It does seem clear that wheels are turning though. I still think the jubilee is a gamble, although the well documented phenomenon of people staying alive just long enough for the big event (e.g Christmas, anniversary etc) only to pass quickly after may well happen. I had a disagreement with my m in l yesterday about the concept of the royal family. I abhor the fact that they are given special status, arising simply through chance of who they were born to. I would abolish the royal concept in a heart beat. And yet I have huge respect for the queen who has always shown the right way to lead and behave. And yet next we face the moron. He was unfairly treated over marriage, as clearly he should have been allowed to marry a divorcee. Ultimately that caused all the issues with Diana. But he still remains an arrogant, moron.
But, thanks to Camilla, he is now a humanised arrogant moron. She has been really good for him and I think the Queen is grateful.
If you want to skip Charles, just take him on a walk up Calton hill and point him in the direction of the new turd hotel.
I was vaguely tempted to have a night there just to see if its interior could match the ugliness of the exterior but searching for the Turd on booking.com didn't throw up any availability.
Brilliant design - it has the best views in Edinburgh. ; )
OT Neighbours faces axe after being dropped by Channel 5. This is the real news.
The Australian soap Neighbours, which launched the international careers of countless local stars including Kylie Minogue, Jason Donovan, Margot Robbie and Guy Pearce, has been axed in the UK in a move likely to sound the death knell for the iconic show.
I do like the fact that the BBC uses the same article (and words) and has a picture of Scott and Charlene! From about 1988 if I suspect rightly. It might explain the lack of popularity if you have to use a still from the show from nearly thirty five years ago.
Obviously HYFUD watches it, but does anyone else? I haven't even heard it mentioned by anyone as they watch it for well over a decade.
We visited Melbourne in 2011 and while there went on a neighbour's tour which was interesting
Since returning I have watched neighbour's largely because of this visit, but also my great affection for Melbourne and Victoria
It is rubbish but there we are, and I doubt I will be overcome with regrets once it is gone
I lived in Melbourne for most of the 90s and the attitude then was that Neighbours was "s**t only made for the POMEs".
They had the same attitude about Fosters too. I don't know any Aussies who drink that pisswater and I won't touch it either.
I'm amused anyone still watches it decades later and if its cancelled in the UK it's completely unsurprising that it would be cancelled down under too.
OT Neighbours faces axe after being dropped by Channel 5. This is the real news.
The Australian soap Neighbours, which launched the international careers of countless local stars including Kylie Minogue, Jason Donovan, Margot Robbie and Guy Pearce, has been axed in the UK in a move likely to sound the death knell for the iconic show.
I do like the fact that the BBC uses the same article (and words) and has a picture of Scott and Charlene! From about 1988 if I suspect rightly. It might explain the lack of popularity if you have to use a still from the show from nearly thirty five years ago.
Obviously HYFUD watches it, but does anyone else? I haven't even heard it mentioned by anyone as they watch it for well over a decade.
We visited Melbourne in 2011 and while there went on a neighbour's tour which was interesting
Since returning I have watched neighbour's largely because of this visit, but also my great affection for Melbourne and Victoria
It is rubbish but there we are, and I doubt I will be overcome with regrets once it is gone
I lived in Melbourne for most of the 90s and the attitude then was that Neighbours was "s**t only made for the POMEs".
They had the same attitude about Fosters too. I don't know any Aussies who drink that pisswater and I won't touch it either.
I'm amused anyone still watches it decades later and if its cancelled in the UK it's completely unsurprising that it would be cancelled down under too.
Good morning one and all. Although 'all' isn't many of us yet!
I see the 70th anniversary of the the Queen's accession, and consequent run up to the 69th anniversary of the coronation is beginning to stir leader and feature writers. Probably to the advantage of the PM. Something else to talk about.
Perhaps more instructive though that her mind seems to be dwelling more on death and the succession.
There is clearly something we are not being told.
Also rather instructive the way she seems to have taken to Camilla. Which I gather is typical of people who know her personally. One regiment she was honorary Colonel of thought the world of her because any time a soldier was injured she took the trouble to hand write them a note wishing them a speedy recovery, along with a bottle of good whisky.
Whether the Queen’s recent very public endorsements will be enough to overcome the lingering public hostility of Diana’s many admirers is a different question. The last thread suggests the answer is ‘no.’
Indeed, but the question is how many people that comprises. I'd guess fewer than there used to be, but still a fair number. It still surprises me - adultery is shameful behaviour but there is the matter of proportion.
As for her thoughts on death and succession and something we're not being told, she's 95 and her 99 year old husband died, the thought is bound to come up. Especially as she has fewer engagements.
I think her health is not great, and we are kept in the dark about this. Tbh we don’t have a right to know anyway, it should be personal. It does seem clear that wheels are turning though. I still think the jubilee is a gamble, although the well documented phenomenon of people staying alive just long enough for the big event (e.g Christmas, anniversary etc) only to pass quickly after may well happen. I had a disagreement with my m in l yesterday about the concept of the royal family. I abhor the fact that they are given special status, arising simply through chance of who they were born to. I would abolish the royal concept in a heart beat. And yet I have huge respect for the queen who has always shown the right way to lead and behave. And yet next we face the moron. He was unfairly treated over marriage, as clearly he should have been allowed to marry a divorcee. Ultimately that caused all the issues with Diana. But he still remains an arrogant, moron.
But, thanks to Camilla, he is now a humanised arrogant moron. She has been really good for him and I think the Queen is grateful.
If you want to skip Charles, just take him on a walk up Calton hill and point him in the direction of the new turd hotel.
I was vaguely tempted to have a night there just to see if its interior could match the ugliness of the exterior but searching for the Turd on booking.com didn't throw up any availability.
Brilliant design - it has the best views in Edinburgh. ; )
No, that is the Parliament building, but we have had this conversation.
I'm on the verge of betting on Boris Johnson staying until 2024. 4/1 on Ladbrokes.
I think he's an out-and-out turd but I'm unconvinced about this legend of the ruthless tory party. He's only had half a term in office and that was covid-ridden.
Are the tory MPs ready to see the writing on the wall? I'm not convinced.
Note the election may be 2023 rather than 2024.
No chance
In which case lay it then!
No thanks.
As I posted originally, without any need to amend, I am on the verge of betting that Boris Johnson will be PM until 2024 or later. 4/1 on Ladbrokes seems like good odds to me.
I don't think the tories have the courage it will take to oust him. I kind of hope I'm proved wrong.
I agree he will stay, have bet that way and think 4/1 is fine. Laying a 2022 exit to get 2023 onside is better imo. You get the 23 election, plus continued scandals into next year, and the party revolting/him quitting if they see a 24 election is very likely to be lost.
The bet on Starmer as next PM is in effect a bet on Johnson surviving to the GE. Better value IMO.
Good spot. Like it. Obvious but I missed it. Thank you.
(Well unless like HY you believe Johnson will win in 2024)
If Johnson wins in 2024 (would want long odds on that!), he wouldn't be replaced until the late twenties at least, so most of the current potential alternatives would also be history, as of course would Starmer.
If Scotland chooses to become a foreign country, then working English, Welsh and Northern Irish taxpayers should not pay for a foreign country's pension liabilities. GUY OPPERMAN U.K. Pensions Minister
The SNPs desperation to claim that English taxpayers would be liable for Scottish pensions is truly absurd and means there's not a chance of Scottish independence ever coming about now.
In the campaign it's going to be a case of SNP ministers and campaigners insisting the English will pay the pensions, the English will clearly say "no we won't" and quite right too. At which point pensioners and potential pensioners, will think quite reasonably "this is too risky" and vote No.
If the SNP were serious about independence they'd have serious answers. Not "the English will pay our liabilities for us".
Michael Gove, a Scottish fresher in 1985, told Johnson’s biographer Andrew Gimson: “The first time I saw him was in the Union bar . . . He seemed like a kindly, Oxford character, but he was really there like a great basking shark waiting for freshers to swim towards him.” Gove told Gimson: “I was Boris’s stooge. I became a votary of the Boris cult.”
In an essay for The Oxford Myth (1988), a book edited by his sister Rachel, Johnson advised aspiring student politicians to assemble “a disciplined and deluded collection of stooges” to get out the vote. “Lonely girls from the women’s colleges” who “back their largely male candidates with a porky decisiveness” were particularly useful, he wrote. “For these young women, machine politics offers human friction and warmth.” Reading this, you realise why almost all Union presidents who become Tory politicians are men. (Thatcher’s domain was OUCA, where she was president in 1946.)
Johnson added: “The tragedy of the stooge is that . . . he wants so much to believe that his relationship with the candidate is special that he shuts out the truth. The terrible art of the candidate is to coddle the self-deception of the stooge.”
Even by the standards of senior politicians that is stunningly cynical, and should be quoted extensively at his defenders.
I know there is a subset of the rich whose "friendships" are defined only in terms of back scratching and "what can they do for me" and all parties tacitly know this. Clear that Boris operates in a very bare walled version of such a world
This, posted here yesterday, is well worth a watch for a relatively dispassionate breakdown of what sort of man he is:
OT Neighbours faces axe after being dropped by Channel 5. This is the real news.
The Australian soap Neighbours, which launched the international careers of countless local stars including Kylie Minogue, Jason Donovan, Margot Robbie and Guy Pearce, has been axed in the UK in a move likely to sound the death knell for the iconic show.
I do like the fact that the BBC uses the same article (and words) and has a picture of Scott and Charlene! From about 1988 if I suspect rightly. It might explain the lack of popularity if you have to use a still from the show from nearly thirty five years ago.
Obviously HYFUD watches it, but does anyone else? I haven't even heard it mentioned by anyone as they watch it for well over a decade.
We visited Melbourne in 2011 and while there went on a neighbour's tour which was interesting
Since returning I have watched neighbour's largely because of this visit, but also my great affection for Melbourne and Victoria
It is rubbish but there we are, and I doubt I will be overcome with regrets once it is gone
I lived in Melbourne for most of the 90s and the attitude then was that Neighbours was "s**t only made for the POMEs".
They had the same attitude about Fosters too. I don't know any Aussies who drink that pisswater and I won't touch it either.
I'm amused anyone still watches it decades later and if its cancelled in the UK it's completely unsurprising that it would be cancelled down under too.
OT Neighbours faces axe after being dropped by Channel 5. This is the real news.
The Australian soap Neighbours, which launched the international careers of countless local stars including Kylie Minogue, Jason Donovan, Margot Robbie and Guy Pearce, has been axed in the UK in a move likely to sound the death knell for the iconic show.
I do like the fact that the BBC uses the same article (and words) and has a picture of Scott and Charlene! From about 1988 if I suspect rightly. It might explain the lack of popularity if you have to use a still from the show from nearly thirty five years ago.
Obviously HYFUD watches it, but does anyone else? I haven't even heard it mentioned by anyone as they watch it for well over a decade.
We visited Melbourne in 2011 and while there went on a neighbour's tour which was interesting
Since returning I have watched neighbour's largely because of this visit, but also my great affection for Melbourne and Victoria
It is rubbish but there we are, and I doubt I will be overcome with regrets once it is gone
I lived in Melbourne for most of the 90s and the attitude then was that Neighbours was "s**t only made for the POMEs".
They had the same attitude about Fosters too. I don't know any Aussies who drink that pisswater and I won't touch it either.
I'm amused anyone still watches it decades later and if its cancelled in the UK it's completely unsurprising that it would be cancelled down under too.
It does look as if it is struggling
Neighbours still gets an average 1.2 million viewers a day in the UK.
Not bad for a programme shown only on Channel 5 now at lunchtime and 6pm
Has Rishi ever told the House of Commons he never attended a party in Downing Street during the lockdown period? Because that is why Boris will have to resign.
You cannot have a PM breaking the law in office, if both Boris and Sunak are fined Boris' premiership would be over and Sunak's leadership campaign ended before it began
If we are talking about a fixed penalty fine I can see Boris arguing that (and others in fairness). As others have pointed out the difficulty is it is breaking his own specific law, which is pushing his credibility to the limit. But hey he has already done that successfully so far. As you said elsewhere though that might be the breaking point for the Tory MPs, although again that should have been weeks/months ago also.
Mr. Roberts, I especially like the Grand Canyon scale of cognitive dissonance from the SNP to believe these two things: 1) the English take too much from Scotland, we contribute far too much, they give us far too little 2) if we leave the UK the English (and Welsh/Northern Irish) will voluntarily become the most generous neighbours in the world by funding the pensions of another country
OT Neighbours faces axe after being dropped by Channel 5. This is the real news.
The Australian soap Neighbours, which launched the international careers of countless local stars including Kylie Minogue, Jason Donovan, Margot Robbie and Guy Pearce, has been axed in the UK in a move likely to sound the death knell for the iconic show.
I do like the fact that the BBC uses the same article (and words) and has a picture of Scott and Charlene! From about 1988 if I suspect rightly. It might explain the lack of popularity if you have to use a still from the show from nearly thirty five years ago.
Obviously HYFUD watches it, but does anyone else? I haven't even heard it mentioned by anyone as they watch it for well over a decade.
We visited Melbourne in 2011 and while there went on a neighbour's tour which was interesting
Since returning I have watched neighbour's largely because of this visit, but also my great affection for Melbourne and Victoria
It is rubbish but there we are, and I doubt I will be overcome with regrets once it is gone
I lived in Melbourne for most of the 90s and the attitude then was that Neighbours was "s**t only made for the POMEs".
They had the same attitude about Fosters too. I don't know any Aussies who drink that pisswater and I won't touch it either.
I'm amused anyone still watches it decades later and if its cancelled in the UK it's completely unsurprising that it would be cancelled down under too.
As I said Home and Away was always more popular in Australia but in the UK Neighbours has always been more popular than Home and Away
If Scotland chooses to become a foreign country, then working English, Welsh and Northern Irish taxpayers should not pay for a foreign country's pension liabilities. GUY OPPERMAN U.K. Pensions Minister
The SNPs desperation to claim that English taxpayers would be liable for Scottish pensions is truly absurd and means there's not a chance of Scottish independence ever coming about now.
In the campaign it's going to be a case of SNP ministers and campaigners insisting the English will pay the pensions, the English will clearly say "no we won't" and quite right too. At which point pensioners and potential pensioners, will think quite reasonably "this is too risky" and vote No.
If the SNP were serious about independence they'd have serious answers. Not "the English will pay our liabilities for us".
"Vote Yes to lose your pension" has a certain potency to it....
OT Neighbours faces axe after being dropped by Channel 5. This is the real news.
The Australian soap Neighbours, which launched the international careers of countless local stars including Kylie Minogue, Jason Donovan, Margot Robbie and Guy Pearce, has been axed in the UK in a move likely to sound the death knell for the iconic show.
I do like the fact that the BBC uses the same article (and words) and has a picture of Scott and Charlene! From about 1988 if I suspect rightly. It might explain the lack of popularity if you have to use a still from the show from nearly thirty five years ago.
Obviously HYFUD watches it, but does anyone else? I haven't even heard it mentioned by anyone as they watch it for well over a decade.
We visited Melbourne in 2011 and while there went on a neighbour's tour which was interesting
Since returning I have watched neighbour's largely because of this visit, but also my great affection for Melbourne and Victoria
It is rubbish but there we are, and I doubt I will be overcome with regrets once it is gone
I lived in Melbourne for most of the 90s and the attitude then was that Neighbours was "s**t only made for the POMEs".
They had the same attitude about Fosters too. I don't know any Aussies who drink that pisswater and I won't touch it either.
I'm amused anyone still watches it decades later and if its cancelled in the UK it's completely unsurprising that it would be cancelled down under too.
It does look as if it is struggling
Neighbours still gets an average 1.2 million viewers a day in the UK.
Not bad for a programme shown only on Channel 5 now at lunchtime and 6pm
It’s still on TV? I thought it died after Kylie Minogue left!
OT Neighbours faces axe after being dropped by Channel 5. This is the real news.
The Australian soap Neighbours, which launched the international careers of countless local stars including Kylie Minogue, Jason Donovan, Margot Robbie and Guy Pearce, has been axed in the UK in a move likely to sound the death knell for the iconic show.
I do like the fact that the BBC uses the same article (and words) and has a picture of Scott and Charlene! From about 1988 if I suspect rightly. It might explain the lack of popularity if you have to use a still from the show from nearly thirty five years ago.
Obviously HYFUD watches it, but does anyone else? I haven't even heard it mentioned by anyone as they watch it for well over a decade.
We visited Melbourne in 2011 and while there went on a neighbour's tour which was interesting
Since returning I have watched neighbour's largely because of this visit, but also my great affection for Melbourne and Victoria
It is rubbish but there we are, and I doubt I will be overcome with regrets once it is gone
I lived in Melbourne for most of the 90s and the attitude then was that Neighbours was "s**t only made for the POMEs".
They had the same attitude about Fosters too. I don't know any Aussies who drink that pisswater and I won't touch it either.
I'm amused anyone still watches it decades later and if its cancelled in the UK it's completely unsurprising that it would be cancelled down under too.
I'm not surprised Aussies don't drink Fosters. I'm more surprised that anyone does. When I'm in Thailand and I want a drink that's suitable in the heat, then Singha lager's fine. Don't know what I'd drink in Australia if I ever get back there, although Victoria Bitter's good, or the Gulf, although I doubt I'll ever have more than an hour or so's stopover there.
Don’t kick me out of the house, so he begs Tory MPs with their fingers on the trigger of a confidence vote, I will prove to you that I can be a different man.
His recklessness, his deceitfulness, his entitled attitude that rules never apply to him and his unwillingness to face the consequences of his own actions are why this scandal happened. It’s because he can’t change and refused to even try to change when he moved into Number 10 that his premiership is self-imperilled.
He won’t change. It is much more likely that he will stay the same, but even more so. If he somehow survives this scandal and clings on as prime minister, he will almost certainly become an even worse iteration of himself.
It is essential to remember this whenever you hear Mr Johnson suggest that he can relaunch his premiership by building a refreshed regime at Number 10. After the mass exodus of his most senior aides, received wisdom at Westminster is that he will struggle to attract quality people to fill the vacancies. Would you sign up to work for a prime minister who might very well not be there in three months – or even three weeks? Would you want to put your career in the hands of an infamously capricious boss and the feverish calculations of Tory MPs debating whether or not to try to evict him? ...many others have deluded themselves that they could change Mr Johnson – wives, girlfriends, editors, party leaders, civil servants, colleagues, staffers. Their invariable fate has been miserable failure.
Barely more than a year after he took up the post, Mr Rosenfield has tendered his resignation. He, Mr Cummings and Ms Stratton are very different characters. All made the terrible mistake of thinking they were strong enough to cure Mr Johnson of his weaknesses. On Friday, the prime minister gave a talk to his remaining staff in which he quoted a character from The Lion King: “Change is good.”
There’s only one change to the personnel at Number 10 that would do some real good.
OT Neighbours faces axe after being dropped by Channel 5. This is the real news.
The Australian soap Neighbours, which launched the international careers of countless local stars including Kylie Minogue, Jason Donovan, Margot Robbie and Guy Pearce, has been axed in the UK in a move likely to sound the death knell for the iconic show.
I do like the fact that the BBC uses the same article (and words) and has a picture of Scott and Charlene! From about 1988 if I suspect rightly. It might explain the lack of popularity if you have to use a still from the show from nearly thirty five years ago.
Obviously HYFUD watches it, but does anyone else? I haven't even heard it mentioned by anyone as they watch it for well over a decade.
We visited Melbourne in 2011 and while there went on a neighbour's tour which was interesting
Since returning I have watched neighbour's largely because of this visit, but also my great affection for Melbourne and Victoria
It is rubbish but there we are, and I doubt I will be overcome with regrets once it is gone
I lived in Melbourne for most of the 90s and the attitude then was that Neighbours was "s**t only made for the POMEs".
They had the same attitude about Fosters too. I don't know any Aussies who drink that pisswater and I won't touch it either.
I'm amused anyone still watches it decades later and if its cancelled in the UK it's completely unsurprising that it would be cancelled down under too.
What's a POME?
Guessing you're not a fan of the Ashes? It means Prisoner Of Mother England.
A term ironically originally meant for convicts being deported but it's long since been adopted as the (derogatory/banter) Aussie term for the English.
Typically followed by the term bastard, the English are "POME bastards".
OT Neighbours faces axe after being dropped by Channel 5. This is the real news.
The Australian soap Neighbours, which launched the international careers of countless local stars including Kylie Minogue, Jason Donovan, Margot Robbie and Guy Pearce, has been axed in the UK in a move likely to sound the death knell for the iconic show.
I do like the fact that the BBC uses the same article (and words) and has a picture of Scott and Charlene! From about 1988 if I suspect rightly. It might explain the lack of popularity if you have to use a still from the show from nearly thirty five years ago.
Obviously HYFUD watches it, but does anyone else? I haven't even heard it mentioned by anyone as they watch it for well over a decade.
We visited Melbourne in 2011 and while there went on a neighbour's tour which was interesting
Since returning I have watched neighbour's largely because of this visit, but also my great affection for Melbourne and Victoria
It is rubbish but there we are, and I doubt I will be overcome with regrets once it is gone
I lived in Melbourne for most of the 90s and the attitude then was that Neighbours was "s**t only made for the POMEs".
They had the same attitude about Fosters too. I don't know any Aussies who drink that pisswater and I won't touch it either.
I'm amused anyone still watches it decades later and if its cancelled in the UK it's completely unsurprising that it would be cancelled down under too.
As I said Home and Away was always more popular in Australia but in the UK Neighbours has always been more popular than Home and Away
Soap operas in general seem to be in decline. Even staple ones like Eastenders and Coronation St don't seem to register in national conversation in the way they did 3 decades ago.
Even if Johnson is given a fixed penalty he won't resign. I'm not sure his MPs will remove him even then.
He'll dismiss it as no different to a parking ticket. Unfortunate but not part of the bigger picture about how he 'got all the big decisions right', 'had a spectacular vaccine rollout', 'helped unemployment disappear', 'Got Brexit done', 'created the fastest growing economy since records began', has a cock bigger than God's etc. etc.
Agree. If he’s untroubled about being found to have conspired to beat up a journalist, a simple FPN is not going to worry him.
OT Neighbours faces axe after being dropped by Channel 5. This is the real news.
The Australian soap Neighbours, which launched the international careers of countless local stars including Kylie Minogue, Jason Donovan, Margot Robbie and Guy Pearce, has been axed in the UK in a move likely to sound the death knell for the iconic show.
I do like the fact that the BBC uses the same article (and words) and has a picture of Scott and Charlene! From about 1988 if I suspect rightly. It might explain the lack of popularity if you have to use a still from the show from nearly thirty five years ago.
Obviously HYFUD watches it, but does anyone else? I haven't even heard it mentioned by anyone as they watch it for well over a decade.
We visited Melbourne in 2011 and while there went on a neighbour's tour which was interesting
Since returning I have watched neighbour's largely because of this visit, but also my great affection for Melbourne and Victoria
It is rubbish but there we are, and I doubt I will be overcome with regrets once it is gone
I lived in Melbourne for most of the 90s and the attitude then was that Neighbours was "s**t only made for the POMEs".
They had the same attitude about Fosters too. I don't know any Aussies who drink that pisswater and I won't touch it either.
I'm amused anyone still watches it decades later and if its cancelled in the UK it's completely unsurprising that it would be cancelled down under too.
As I said Home and Away was always more popular in Australia but in the UK Neighbours has always been more popular than Home and Away
Soap operas in general seem to be in decline. Even staple ones like Eastenders and Coronation St don't seem to register in national conversation in the way they did 3 decades ago.
True, the rise of Netflix, social media and multiple channels has seen to that.
Coronation Street though is still always in the top 10 most watched programmes every week. Eastenders however is facing probably terminal decline
If Scotland chooses to become a foreign country, then working English, Welsh and Northern Irish taxpayers should not pay for a foreign country's pension liabilities. GUY OPPERMAN U.K. Pensions Minister
The SNPs desperation to claim that English taxpayers would be liable for Scottish pensions is truly absurd and means there's not a chance of Scottish independence ever coming about now.
In the campaign it's going to be a case of SNP ministers and campaigners insisting the English will pay the pensions, the English will clearly say "no we won't" and quite right too. At which point pensioners and potential pensioners, will think quite reasonably "this is too risky" and vote No.
If the SNP were serious about independence they'd have serious answers. Not "the English will pay our liabilities for us".
There are some interesting questions swirling around in this issue, not least the disconnect between the way that some people think pensions work and the way they do in reality. Some people have the impression of pensions being paid into a pot where, should you live to retirement age, you start to dip into. Of course, with state pensions that's far from the truth. But then it does wheel in the question of where and how value is stored in the economy. It's not just a cycle of tax - welfare - retail spend - tax... money also gets sunk into physical, geographically located assets. In the event of part of the UK becoming independent, the location of those assets becomes an important part of the equation. It would certainly be messy to sort out.
OT Neighbours faces axe after being dropped by Channel 5. This is the real news.
The Australian soap Neighbours, which launched the international careers of countless local stars including Kylie Minogue, Jason Donovan, Margot Robbie and Guy Pearce, has been axed in the UK in a move likely to sound the death knell for the iconic show.
I do like the fact that the BBC uses the same article (and words) and has a picture of Scott and Charlene! From about 1988 if I suspect rightly. It might explain the lack of popularity if you have to use a still from the show from nearly thirty five years ago.
Obviously HYFUD watches it, but does anyone else? I haven't even heard it mentioned by anyone as they watch it for well over a decade.
We visited Melbourne in 2011 and while there went on a neighbour's tour which was interesting
Since returning I have watched neighbour's largely because of this visit, but also my great affection for Melbourne and Victoria
It is rubbish but there we are, and I doubt I will be overcome with regrets once it is gone
I lived in Melbourne for most of the 90s and the attitude then was that Neighbours was "s**t only made for the POMEs".
They had the same attitude about Fosters too. I don't know any Aussies who drink that pisswater and I won't touch it either.
I'm amused anyone still watches it decades later and if its cancelled in the UK it's completely unsurprising that it would be cancelled down under too.
I'm not surprised Aussies don't drink Fosters. I'm more surprised that anyone does. When I'm in Thailand and I want a drink that's suitable in the heat, then Singha lager's fine. Don't know what I'd drink in Australia if I ever get back there, although Victoria Bitter's good, or the Gulf, although I doubt I'll ever have more than an hour or so's stopover there.
VB is good, just a shame that it's so rare outside of Walkabout bars in this country. VB is what most Melbournians I knew would drink.
Not sure what those from Sydney drink, but do you know why people from Queensland drink XXXX?
OT Neighbours faces axe after being dropped by Channel 5. This is the real news.
The Australian soap Neighbours, which launched the international careers of countless local stars including Kylie Minogue, Jason Donovan, Margot Robbie and Guy Pearce, has been axed in the UK in a move likely to sound the death knell for the iconic show.
I do like the fact that the BBC uses the same article (and words) and has a picture of Scott and Charlene! From about 1988 if I suspect rightly. It might explain the lack of popularity if you have to use a still from the show from nearly thirty five years ago.
Obviously HYFUD watches it, but does anyone else? I haven't even heard it mentioned by anyone as they watch it for well over a decade.
We visited Melbourne in 2011 and while there went on a neighbour's tour which was interesting
Since returning I have watched neighbour's largely because of this visit, but also my great affection for Melbourne and Victoria
It is rubbish but there we are, and I doubt I will be overcome with regrets once it is gone
I lived in Melbourne for most of the 90s and the attitude then was that Neighbours was "s**t only made for the POMEs".
They had the same attitude about Fosters too. I don't know any Aussies who drink that pisswater and I won't touch it either.
I'm amused anyone still watches it decades later and if its cancelled in the UK it's completely unsurprising that it would be cancelled down under too.
What's a POME?
Guessing you're not a fan of the Ashes? It means Prisoner Of Mother England.
A term ironically originally meant for convicts being deported but it's long since been adopted as the (derogatory/banter) Aussie term for the English.
Typically followed by the term bastard, the English are "POME bastards".
POHM (Prisoner of Her Majesty) is the apocryphal derivation.
Australians of my grandmother's generation used the great euphemism of "government men", used in the snobby context "none of my family were government men".
Now Australians are often proud of a bit of convict heritage, as interesting family colour.
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Stupid move by C5 too as Neighbours is one of the few programmes I ever watch on the channel
Isn't Mike Smithson also teetotal?
Sounds like rubbish to me that Johnson would resign over a fixed penalty notice. Just piffle.
I mean the piece says he this quote came from a loyal minister, but I'm left wondering whether they have ever actually met Boris Johnson.
Timothy Taylors always takes me back as my first job as a pharmacist was with the late Timothy Whites!
I had a disagreement with my m in l yesterday about the concept of the royal family. I abhor the fact that they are given special status, arising simply through chance of who they were born to. I would abolish the royal concept in a heart beat. And yet I have huge respect for the queen who has always shown the right way to lead and behave.
And yet next we face the moron. He was unfairly treated over marriage, as clearly he should have been allowed to marry a divorcee. Ultimately that caused all the issues with Diana. But he still remains an arrogant, moron.
I think he's an out-and-out turd but I'm unconvinced about this legend of the ruthless tory party. He's only had half a term in office and that was covid-ridden.
Are the tory MPs ready to see the writing on the wall? I'm not convinced.
"A sort of Hogwarts for wankers where you get taught Latin and tax avoidance whilst wearing full evening dress"
https://twitter.com/JonathanPieNews/status/1489557596734476289?t=xvLJ8ijLpfC-46bLZrTwbQ&s=19
I had an idea yesterday: Mix Punk AF with Punk IPA (or similar). You get a drinkable IPA at about 2.5% alcohol.
Also unsurprising but worth noting that the overwhelming majority care more about how the Government handles the cost of living.
Were I advising anyone involved, I would be strongly suggesting that they don’t accept an FPN, and insist on going to court with a good lawyer.
The Downing Street protection people have known for years.
As I posted originally, without any need to amend, I am on the verge of betting that Boris Johnson will be PM until 2024 or later. 4/1 on Ladbrokes seems like good odds to me.
I don't think the tories have the courage it will take to oust him. I kind of hope I'm proved wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ss-59fi4nM
Since watching that I’ve never been able to watch it
Boris would lose a VONC if fined and Sunak would lose a leadership election if fined too and probably would have to pull out and not even stand
That apparently wasn't the case, but how one managed to stomach enough of it was beyond me.
He'll dismiss it as no different to a parking ticket. Unfortunate but not part of the bigger picture about how he 'got all the big decisions right', 'had a spectacular vaccine rollout', 'helped unemployment disappear', 'Got Brexit done', 'created the fastest growing economy since records began', has a cock bigger than God's etc. etc.
However, if Johnson does get fined he won't quit. The idea that anything so trivial as breaking the law in office will persuade an individual as self-centred and amoral as the current Prime Minister to resign seems improbable, to put it mildly.
And here's another thing: if it comes to pass and he decides to dig his heels in, I fully expect some people to forget about their previous opposition to law-breaking Prime Ministers and carry on backing him regardless...
I know there is a subset of the rich whose "friendships" are defined only in terms of back scratching and "what can they do for me" and all parties tacitly know this. Clear that Boris operates in a very bare walled version of such a world
Though I'm still slightly baffled when people like Leon proudly proclaim it because I've no idea what it means. Must be just me but what exactly is 'got Brexit done'? I was a Remainer and accept we left the EU but, meh, so what? I don't notice anything better. Just heaps more chaos and a country that has become a global laughing stock.
Rhetorical for now ... I'm off out.
It might explain the lack of popularity if you have to use a still from the show from nearly thirty five years ago.
Obviously HYUFD watches it, but does anyone else? I haven't even heard it mentioned by anyone as they watch it for well over a decade.
https://twitter.com/sturdyAlex/status/1490263580054274052
He clearly did lie to parliament.
Then it was Sue Gray this, Sue Gray that. Well, that was after it was Simon Case this, Simon Case that (remember him?)
Then it was all about waiting for the police blah blah blah blah
He's an apparently unflushable turd and the tory MPs lack the courage to pull the chain
Mind, Bozo and chums are making his job easy.
(Well unless like HY you believe Johnson will win in 2024)
https://thetimes.co.uk/article/scottish-pensions-paid-by-rest-of-the-uk-is-a-myth-fhjd78fzm
Just as Boris Johnson is stained and shamed by his arms-length relationship with the truth, so are Nicola Sturgeon and lan Blackford. They will cook up any old nonsense if they are persuaded that doing so will help you swallow independence. A party that thinks its lies are ennobled by the cause they are meant to further is a party that forfeits any right to be trusted on any issue. And since politics is impossible without some honesty and trust. one may only wonder why the SNP leadership wishes to set fire to its reserves of those qualities. For if they will lie about this, they will lie about anything.
https://twitter.com/kevverage/status/1490263847474810885?s=20&t=UjihePL95B2ysH8nhQkcRA
Since returning I have watched neighbour's largely because of this visit, but also my great affection for Melbourne and Victoria
It is rubbish but there we are, and I doubt I will be overcome with regrets once it is gone
Can the politicians get away with saying it was no more than a speeding ticket?
Do the junior staff want to sign something that admits they did wrong, when they were in their place of work and doing what very senior managers suggested they did?
pension liabilities.
GUY OPPERMAN U.K. Pensions Minister
https://twitter.com/DMacdugg/status/1490262621957890049?s=20&t=UjihePL95B2ysH8nhQkcRA
; )
They had the same attitude about Fosters too. I don't know any Aussies who drink that pisswater and I won't touch it either.
I'm amused anyone still watches it decades later and if its cancelled in the UK it's completely unsurprising that it would be cancelled down under too.
If I hadn't had a little more at just over those odds I'd be seriously considering backing that.
The SNPs desperation to claim that English taxpayers would be liable for Scottish pensions is truly absurd and means there's not a chance of Scottish independence ever coming about now.
In the campaign it's going to be a case of SNP ministers and campaigners insisting the English will pay the pensions, the English will clearly say "no we won't" and quite right too. At which point pensioners and potential pensioners, will think quite reasonably "this is too risky" and vote No.
If the SNP were serious about independence they'd have serious answers. Not "the English will pay our liabilities for us".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjQUIzo2Ze4
Not bad for a programme shown only on Channel 5 now at lunchtime and 6pm
1) the English take too much from Scotland, we contribute far too much, they give us far too little
2) if we leave the UK the English (and Welsh/Northern Irish) will voluntarily become the most generous neighbours in the world by funding the pensions of another country
When I'm in Thailand and I want a drink that's suitable in the heat, then Singha lager's fine. Don't know what I'd drink in Australia if I ever get back there, although Victoria Bitter's good, or the Gulf, although I doubt I'll ever have more than an hour or so's stopover there.
Don’t kick me out of the house, so he begs Tory MPs with their fingers on the trigger of a confidence vote, I will prove to you that I can be a different man.
His recklessness, his deceitfulness, his entitled attitude that rules never apply to him and his unwillingness to face the consequences of his own actions are why this scandal happened. It’s because he can’t change and refused to even try to change when he moved into Number 10 that his premiership is self-imperilled.
He won’t change. It is much more likely that he will stay the same, but even more so. If he somehow survives this scandal and clings on as prime minister, he will almost certainly become an even worse iteration of himself.
It is essential to remember this whenever you hear Mr Johnson suggest that he can relaunch his premiership by building a refreshed regime at Number 10. After the mass exodus of his most senior aides, received wisdom at Westminster is that he will struggle to attract quality people to fill the vacancies. Would you sign up to work for a prime minister who might very well not be there in three months – or even three weeks? Would you want to put your career in the hands of an infamously capricious boss and the feverish calculations of Tory MPs debating whether or not to try to evict him? ...many others have deluded themselves that they could change Mr Johnson – wives, girlfriends, editors, party leaders, civil servants, colleagues, staffers. Their invariable fate has been miserable failure.
Barely more than a year after he took up the post, Mr Rosenfield has tendered his resignation. He, Mr Cummings and Ms Stratton are very different characters. All made the terrible mistake of thinking they were strong enough to cure Mr Johnson of his weaknesses. On Friday, the prime minister gave a talk to his remaining staff in which he quoted a character from The Lion King: “Change is good.”
There’s only one change to the personnel at Number 10 that would do some real good.
A term ironically originally meant for convicts being deported but it's long since been adopted as the (derogatory/banter) Aussie term for the English.
Typically followed by the term bastard, the English are "POME bastards".
Coronation Street though is still always in the top 10 most watched programmes every week. Eastenders however is facing probably terminal decline
Of course, with state pensions that's far from the truth. But then it does wheel in the question of where and how value is stored in the economy. It's not just a cycle of tax - welfare - retail spend - tax... money also gets sunk into physical, geographically located assets. In the event of part of the UK becoming independent, the location of those assets becomes an important part of the equation. It would certainly be messy to sort out.
Not sure what those from Sydney drink, but do you know why people from Queensland drink XXXX?
Because they can't spell beer.
Australians of my grandmother's generation used the great euphemism of "government men", used in the snobby context "none of my family were government men".
Now Australians are often proud of a bit of convict heritage, as interesting family colour.