The government chose the latter. It seems many of the people who were screaming about the lack of PPE in April/May 2020 are now screeching about its cost.
I knew that the same people screeching about "no PPE" would eventually moan about the cost. I have nothing but contempt for them.
It's a lot of money to write off, buried on page 199 of the NHS Annual Report. It is the auditors that have raised concerns:
My ex-colleagues WhatsApp group is agog at the £8.5bn written off on non-delivered or non-compliant PPE.
Remember that PPE contracts were awarded to Tories with no record in procuring PPE without tender or clauses requiring delivery of actual goods fit for purpose. As well as Liar presiding over a pissed-up Downing Street and endlessly lying to parliament, he has also presided over brazen and open corruption.
And certain people still defend *that*
Where exactly would you have bought cheap PPE from in early 2020?
It's also completely fake news.
The majority of the write off is perfectly usable PPE in stockpiles but it's now worth less than when purchased as the price has come back down.
What should have been done? Not pay market rates at the time it was purchased? So have no PPE for those who need it? Or not write off the fact it's not worth as much today, which would be dishonest.
I know it's the write off, the point is that it was unavoidable. All you could do in early 2020 was pay whatever it takes to get PPE. If people didn't twig at the time that a huge amount of money was being flushed down the drain on PPE, vaccines, testing, furlough, loans and so on, that's on them. It was blindingly obvious to me that money was going to be "wasted" on a scale not seen since the war, but it was still the right thing to do.
The government chose the latter. It seems many of the people who were screaming about the lack of PPE in April/May 2020 are now screeching about its cost.
I knew that the same people screeching about "no PPE" would eventually moan about the cost. I have nothing but contempt for them.
It's a lot of money to write off, buried on page 199 of the NHS Annual Report. It is the auditors that have raised concerns:
Sure, there was an emergency and price gouging going on, but don't you think it reasonable to look into whether fraud occurred?
I also wouldn't have a problem barring the companies that did profiteer from further government contracts.
I hope they do the same for Test and Trace. For the money they wasted on that I could have given every child a decent laptop with a dongle and revolutionised teaching through the pandemic via Nightingale schools. Which would also have had incalculable benefits far into the future.
Even if Boris loses a VONC amongst MPs, loyalists say he would fight a subsequent leadership election. If he gets enough support still from loyalist MPs to get to the final two, a la Corbyn 2016 he would then let Tory members decide
Even if Boris loses a VONC amongst MPs, loyalists say he would fight a subsequent leadership election. If he gets enough support still from loyalist MPs to get to the final two, a la Corbyn 2016 he would then let Tory members decide
Even if Boris loses a VONC amongst MPs, loyalists say he would fight a subsequent leadership election. If he gets enough support still from loyalist MPs to get to the final two, a la Corbyn 2016 he would then let Tory members decide
Even if Boris loses a VONC amongst MPs, loyalists say he would fight a subsequent leadership election. If he gets enough support still from loyalist MPs to get to the final two, a la Corbyn 2016 he would then let Tory members decide
Even if Boris loses a VONC amongst MPs, loyalists say he would fight a subsequent leadership election. If he gets enough support still from loyalist MPs to get to the final two, a la Corbyn 2016 he would then let Tory members decide
Robert Peston @Peston · 1h The argument from some Tory MPs - @markjenkinsonmp just now on @itvnews - that breaching Covid rules is equivalent to parking on a double yellow line is odd. They can’t think the threat to life from anti-social parking is the same as failing to limit the spread of a virus…
Robert Peston @Peston that killed more than 150,000
Even if Boris loses a VONC amongst MPs, loyalists say he would fight a subsequent leadership election. If he gets enough support still from loyalist MPs to get to the final two, a la Corbyn 2016 he would then let Tory members decide
Would he really fight or would he "allow his name to go forward"?
It's been well documented had Thatcher chosen to fight the second ballot, with the payroll vote no longer beholden, she'd have got 80-90 votes maximum. I suspect Boris will find his support melts away once he loses the VoNC.
Even if Boris loses a VONC amongst MPs, loyalists say he would fight a subsequent leadership election. If he gets enough support still from loyalist MPs to get to the final two, a la Corbyn 2016 he would then let Tory members decide
Even if Boris loses a VONC amongst MPs, loyalists say he would fight a subsequent leadership election. If he gets enough support still from loyalist MPs to get to the final two, a la Corbyn 2016 he would then let Tory members decide
Even if Boris loses a VONC amongst MPs, loyalists say he would fight a subsequent leadership election. If he gets enough support still from loyalist MPs to get to the final two, a la Corbyn 2016 he would then let Tory members decide
Even if Boris loses a VONC amongst MPs, loyalists say he would fight a subsequent leadership election. If he gets enough support still from loyalist MPs to get to the final two, a la Corbyn 2016 he would then let Tory members decide
Even if Boris loses a VONC amongst MPs, loyalists say he would fight a subsequent leadership election. If he gets enough support still from loyalist MPs to get to the final two, a la Corbyn 2016 he would then let Tory members decide
Even if Boris loses a VONC amongst MPs, loyalists say he would fight a subsequent leadership election. If he gets enough support still from loyalist MPs to get to the final two, a la Corbyn 2016 he would then let Tory members decide
Even if Boris loses a VONC amongst MPs, loyalists say he would fight a subsequent leadership election. If he gets enough support still from loyalist MPs to get to the final two, a la Corbyn 2016 he would then let Tory members decide
Would he really fight or would he "allow his name to go forward"?
It's been well documented had Thatcher chosen to fight the second ballot, with the payroll vote no longer beholden, she'd have got 80-90 votes maximum. I suspect Boris will find his support melts away once he loses the VoNC.
80 to 90 votes though could still have got Thatcher to the runoff spot as runner up to Heseltine with MPs under Hague's rules.
Thatcher could even have won the runoff amongst the membership.
Boris will try and use Hague's rules to get to the membership as Corbyn in 2016 used Ed Miliband's rules to win the Labour leadership again amongst members even though most Labour MPs wanted him gone
Conservative Party MPs can initiate a no confidence vote in the leader when 15% (54 MPs) of Conservative MPs write to the chair of the party’s 1922 Committee (a committee representing backbench Conservative MPs).
The no confidence vote is then scheduled by the chair in consultation with the party leader. MPs then vote in support or against the leader. This can happen quickly. For example, the no confidence vote in Theresa May was held on 12 December 2018, the day after she was informed that the 15% threshold had been reached. May needed 159 MPs to support her to stay in office, and won the vote by 200 to 117.
Under current rules, if more than 50% of all Conservative MPs (181 MPs) vote in support of the prime minister, they can stay as party leader and prime minister and no new vote can be triggered for 12 months.
If the leader lost the confidence vote among Conservative MPs, they would not be able to stand again – allowing any other Conservative MP to stand for the party leadership.
Even if Boris loses a VONC amongst MPs, loyalists say he would fight a subsequent leadership election. If he gets enough support still from loyalist MPs to get to the final two, a la Corbyn 2016 he would then let Tory members decide
Conservative Party MPs can initiate a no confidence vote in the leader when 15% (54 MPs) of Conservative MPs write to the chair of the party’s 1922 Committee (a committee representing backbench Conservative MPs).
The no confidence vote is then scheduled by the chair in consultation with the party leader. MPs then vote in support or against the leader. This can happen quickly. For example, the no confidence vote in Theresa May was held on 12 December 2018, the day after she was informed that the 15% threshold had been reached. May needed 159 MPs to support her to stay in office, and won the vote by 200 to 117.
Under current rules, if more than 50% of all Conservative MPs (181 MPs) vote in support of the prime minister, they can stay as party leader and prime minister and no new vote can be triggered for 12 months.
If the leader lost the confidence vote among Conservative MPs, they would not be able to stand again – allowing any other Conservative MP to stand for the party leadership.
Even if Boris loses a VONC amongst MPs, loyalists say he would fight a subsequent leadership election. If he gets enough support still from loyalist MPs to get to the final two, a la Corbyn 2016 he would then let Tory members decide
Even if Boris loses a VONC amongst MPs, loyalists say he would fight a subsequent leadership election. If he gets enough support still from loyalist MPs to get to the final two, a la Corbyn 2016 he would then let Tory members decide
Even if Boris loses a VONC amongst MPs, loyalists say he would fight a subsequent leadership election. If he gets enough support still from loyalist MPs to get to the final two, a la Corbyn 2016 he would then let Tory members decide
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ministers-write-off-9-billion-on-lost-unusable-or-overpriced-ppe-262kpdr8v
Sure, there was an emergency and price gouging going on, but don't you think it reasonable to look into whether fraud occurred?
I also wouldn't have a problem barring the companies that did profiteer from further government contracts.
The unloyalists will just be laughing at them.
Unlike A Johnson, I will withdraw.
It's been well documented had Thatcher chosen to fight the second ballot, with the payroll vote no longer beholden, she'd have got 80-90 votes maximum. I suspect Boris will find his support melts away once he loses the VoNC.
No explicit reference to a leader who loses a VONC though
(Echoes of the Alex cartoon about Thatcher's downfall. In the end, she was turned on by men in grey suits.)
Oh wait he was serious. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
However, interestingly I can't see anywhere it sets out the rules for a confidence motion. So it may be more ad hoc than that.
Equally, I cannot imagine that Graham Brady would accept a nomination for somebody who lost a VONC as valid even if Johnson tried to stand again.
Would the PM tell the House which viol........
Thatcher could even have won the runoff amongst the membership.
Boris will try and use Hague's rules to get to the membership as Corbyn in 2016 used Ed Miliband's rules to win the Labour leadership again amongst members even though most Labour MPs wanted him gone
The no confidence vote is then scheduled by the chair in consultation with the party leader. MPs then vote in support or against the leader. This can happen quickly. For example, the no confidence vote in Theresa May was held on 12 December 2018, the day after she was informed that the 15% threshold had been reached. May needed 159 MPs to support her to stay in office, and won the vote by 200 to 117.
Under current rules, if more than 50% of all Conservative MPs (181 MPs) vote in support of the prime minister, they can stay as party leader and prime minister and no new vote can be triggered for 12 months.
If the leader lost the confidence vote among Conservative MPs, they would not be able to stand again – allowing any other Conservative MP to stand for the party leadership.
https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/conservative-party-leadership-contests
NEW THREAD
If Brady tries and blocks him standing again could we even see Boris loyalists try and storm the 1922 cttee?
But one never knows with @HYUFD.
Mind you, would be funny to see Nadine and JRM against the entire 1922.