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  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070

    I’m feeling old.

    I referenced the film “Twelve Monkeys” in a conversation at work. My colleague pointed out he was 1 when it came out…

    Stick with Casablanca.

    Then ignorance is just ignorance.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,454
    darkage said:

    Got to day 5 of Covid. Took another LFT test in the expectation that I would be free in a couple of days time, but thats not going to happen. I am still infectious. Makes sense as I am feeling a bit rough, although the main illness has passed.

    Coming to terms with the fact that I may need to self isolate for the full 11 days. (10 days plus the day of test).

    Obviously I'm glad i'm not welded in to an apartment block, but this requirement to self isolate is highly draconian and intrusive.

    Given that the virus is absolutely everywhere, and isn't killing people at anything like the numbers of 2020; I would suggest these rules are excessive and need to be quickly scrapped.

    If they aren't scrapped people will start to ignore and disobey them. I could have avoided the whole thing by just not taking a covid test and regarding the episode as a bout of winter flu, which is what it would normally be described as.


    Its 10 days since first symptoms isn’t it? Not the first test. At least it was in England anyway.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,908
    Surely more important that Cressida Dick resigns than Johnson. To watch the police squirming around like a beached whale is just embarrassing. One by one the great British institutions are being trashed and to make it worse we are being laughed at all over Europe.
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 9,133
    edited January 2022
    Roger said:

    Surely more important that Cressida Dick resigns than Johnson. To watch the police squirming around like a beached whale is just embarrassing. One by one the great British institutions are being trashed and to make it worse we are being laughed at all over Europe.

    How far back does their relationship go ? ( Not that I'm suggesting Ms Dick is Jennifer Arcuri, ofcourse, in case any cps lawyers are on hand to issue fixed penalty notices ) .
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,405

    darkage said:

    Got to day 5 of Covid. Took another LFT test in the expectation that I would be free in a couple of days time, but thats not going to happen. I am still infectious. Makes sense as I am feeling a bit rough, although the main illness has passed.

    Coming to terms with the fact that I may need to self isolate for the full 11 days. (10 days plus the day of test).

    Obviously I'm glad i'm not welded in to an apartment block, but this requirement to self isolate is highly draconian and intrusive.

    Given that the virus is absolutely everywhere, and isn't killing people at anything like the numbers of 2020; I would suggest these rules are excessive and need to be quickly scrapped.

    If they aren't scrapped people will start to ignore and disobey them. I could have avoided the whole thing by just not taking a covid test and regarding the episode as a bout of winter flu, which is what it would normally be described as.


    Its 10 days since first symptoms isn’t it? Not the first test. At least it was in England anyway.
    I don’t think any one knows anymore, it’s changed so often...
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,419
    Andy_JS said:

    "Why on earth would the Metropolitan Police ask Sue Gray to redact key parts of her independent report?
    TheSecretBarrister, January 28, 2022"

    https://thesecretbarrister.com/2022/01/28/why-on-earth-would-the-metropolitan-police-ask-sue-gray-to-redact-key-parts-of-her-independent-report/

    Interference from Dick?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,633
    darkage said:

    Got to day 5 of Covid. Took another LFT test in the expectation that I would be free in a couple of days time, but thats not going to happen. I am still infectious. Makes sense as I am feeling a bit rough, although the main illness has passed.

    Coming to terms with the fact that I may need to self isolate for the full 11 days. (10 days plus the day of test).

    Obviously I'm glad i'm not welded in to an apartment block, but this requirement to self isolate is highly draconian and intrusive.

    Given that the virus is absolutely everywhere, and isn't killing people at anything like the numbers of 2020; I would suggest these rules are excessive and need to be quickly scrapped.

    If they aren't scrapped people will start to ignore and disobey them. I could have avoided the whole thing by just not taking a covid test and regarding the episode as a bout of winter flu, which is what it would normally be described as.


    I am on day 2, and isolating is a bit tedious. I may be able to work from Tuesday, depending on LFTs and my managers risk assessment.

    I don't particularly want to give it to vulnerable people, so will carry on isolating until safe. Mrs Foxy has a negative PCR so can return to work on Monday, subject to daily LFT. The Trust is pretty desperate for staff.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277

    Here’s one for PB. The other night I had a dream that my heart was removed and subsequently I was on a waiting list for a transplant. I then proceeded to have a panic attack about not having a heart and then being unable to breathe. I then woke up and was relieved I did indeed still have my heart (to the best of my knowledge).

    What could it mean??

    Nothing at all. Perhaps @Leon was musing about aztecs on here and your subconscious ran with the idea of hearts being ripped out for shits and giggles... Dream analysis really is a load of piffle.
    It really isn’t a load of piffle. Dreams reveal subconscious fears, and desires, at the very least. Which is important stuff. They possibly go further than that, and the most important can reveal solutions to conscious mental obstacles

    Of course some are just meaningless, or expressive of mere appetite. Wet dreams etc
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,148
    edited January 2022

    Here’s one for PB. The other night I had a dream that my heart was removed and subsequently I was on a waiting list for a transplant. I then proceeded to have a panic attack about not having a heart and then being unable to breathe. I then woke up and was relieved I did indeed still have my heart (to the best of my knowledge).

    What could it mean??

    You’re becoming a Tory as you get older?
    I thought he was, relatively speaking, about 22.

    Young Hague Mk 2. There's a thought.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 8,243
    IshmaelZ said:

    I’m feeling old.

    I referenced the film “Twelve Monkeys” in a conversation at work. My colleague pointed out he was 1 when it came out…

    I’m feeling old.

    I referenced the film “Twelve Monkeys” in a conversation at work. My colleague pointed out he was 1 when it came out…

    Actually, you referred to it.
    Actually I referenced it.

    Try google if you don’t know what a word means.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,918
    edited January 2022
    Roger said:

    Surely more important that Cressida Dick resigns than Johnson. To watch the police squirming around like a beached whale is just embarrassing. One by one the great British institutions are being trashed and to make it worse we are being laughed at all over Europe.

    In Italy which elected Berlusconi multiple times and who faced a criminal conviction? In France where Le Pen is on over 40% in the runoff polling now and numerous Presidents have been hit by scandal? In Germany where there is a government cosying up to Putin? In Ukraine where there is a government under threat by Putin? In Poland which has a rightwing nationalist government? In Spain which has a hard right party on the rise and riven by regional divisions? I doubt it
  • darkagedarkage Posts: 5,398

    darkage said:

    Got to day 5 of Covid. Took another LFT test in the expectation that I would be free in a couple of days time, but thats not going to happen. I am still infectious. Makes sense as I am feeling a bit rough, although the main illness has passed.

    Coming to terms with the fact that I may need to self isolate for the full 11 days. (10 days plus the day of test).

    Obviously I'm glad i'm not welded in to an apartment block, but this requirement to self isolate is highly draconian and intrusive.

    Given that the virus is absolutely everywhere, and isn't killing people at anything like the numbers of 2020; I would suggest these rules are excessive and need to be quickly scrapped.

    If they aren't scrapped people will start to ignore and disobey them. I could have avoided the whole thing by just not taking a covid test and regarding the episode as a bout of winter flu, which is what it would normally be described as.


    Its 10 days since first symptoms isn’t it? Not the first test. At least it was in England anyway.
    Not according to this. It says the day the symptoms started or positive test plus the next 10 days, so 11 days in total.

    How long to self-isolate

    If you test positive, your self-isolation period includes the day your symptoms started (or the day you had the test, if you did not have symptoms) and the next 10 full days.

    https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/self-isolation-and-treatment/when-to-self-isolate-and-what-to-do/
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 9,133
    edited January 2022

    Here’s one for PB. The other night I had a dream that my heart was removed and subsequently I was on a waiting list for a transplant. I then proceeded to have a panic attack about not having a heart and then being unable to breathe. I then woke up and was relieved I did indeed still have my heart (to the best of my knowledge).

    What could it mean??

    You're worried about losing something fundamental or central, what makes you distinctly you. It sounds like part of your subconscious is telling you to be a bit more judicious and careful about this.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277

    Sounds like a wonderful opportunity Big G. Your family must be chuffed. All the best to her!

    We are overjoyed

    She was top student in her school so maybe not surprising, but still a wonderful achievement and her Mum and Dad are looking forward to a trip to Japan, a great country to visit, next year

    I lived in Kyoto for a few months, in the 1990s. By the Philosopher’s Footpath. What a wonderful place

    The most historic city in Japan, with one of the very best universities. That’s a great achievement and congrats
  • ApplicantApplicant Posts: 3,379
    Carnyx said:

    Foxy said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Leon said:

    To be fair to @HYUFD he does have a point about Swansea. For instance you could rent a two bedroom, four bed family house near the centre for about £600, even in August. Leaving you a tidy £400 to spend on heroin, I mean food and transport

    What child would not be delighted with that?

    Here it is:



    https://www.booking.com/hotel/gb/stop-looking-walk-to-the-city-centre.en-gb.html



    “Dad, can we go to Swansea again? Please????”

    Looks fine if you spend most of the day at the beach here https://www.google.com/maps/uv?pb=!1s0x486e8b29af1ac0d3:0x391cdef6b09b718d!3m1!7e115!4shttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/p/AF1QipOgxMXRZWSWGdDGrVmHNyP7DsQucJ8Z__bUE7hF=w260-h175-n-k-no!5sswansea beach - Google Search!15sCgIgAQ&imagekey=!1e10!2sAF1QipOgxMXRZWSWGdDGrVmHNyP7DsQucJ8Z__bUE7hF&hl=.

    Most of the evening can be spent eating out and on the town or seeing a show at Swansea Theatre.

    Indeed if even Benidorm becomes too expensive in the height of summer, I suspect more and more families will spend their summers at beach resorts in the UK and maybe only go to Spain in the autumn or winter when it is cheaper but still warmer than the UK
    So, you're positing a world where wages in Southern Spain have outgrown the UK to such an extent that everyone is holidaying in Swansea?

    Now, I might be wrong, but that doesn't sound exactly like a dream scenario.
    The joys of Brexit...
    Never mind, you can always nip over to Skegness for your hols. An old Leicester tradition.

    PS: Never got there myself. Could be splendid for all I know.
    I've been there. It's so bracing.
  • Penddu2Penddu2 Posts: 689
    The centre of Swansea is an undeniable dump. But The Mumbles is also part of Swansea.....and is just next to Gower (which is slso technically part of Swansea) and which is spectacular.

    Ps it is The Mumbles and Gower - not Mumbles and The Gower
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 8,243
    MattW said:

    Here’s one for PB. The other night I had a dream that my heart was removed and subsequently I was on a waiting list for a transplant. I then proceeded to have a panic attack about not having a heart and then being unable to breathe. I then woke up and was relieved I did indeed still have my heart (to the best of my knowledge).

    What could it mean??

    You’re becoming a Tory as you get older?
    I thought he was, relatively speaking, about 22.

    Young Hague Mk 2. There's a thought.
    Wasn’t he an engineer before being a lawyer? Closer to 30
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,148

    Here’s one for PB. The other night I had a dream that my heart was removed and subsequently I was on a waiting list for a transplant. I then proceeded to have a panic attack about not having a heart and then being unable to breathe. I then woke up and was relieved I did indeed still have my heart (to the best of my knowledge).

    What could it mean??

    Nothing at all. Perhaps @Leon was musing about aztecs on here and your subconscious ran with the idea of hearts being ripped out for shits and giggles... Dream analysis really is a load of piffle.
    Hmmm.

    New lawyer dreams of heart being excised.

    I wonder what that means?

    :smile:
  • pigeonpigeon Posts: 4,839

    (((Dan Hodges)))
    @DPJHodges
    ·
    8m
    If senior officers within the Met can't get the basics right on an investigation containing this level of national interest what hope does any ordinary member of the public have when it comes to day to day offences.

    https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/1487143946174152704

    ===

    Looking like the Met will need a complete clear out when we finally get rid of the greased piglet. Like every other institution in the UK at this rate except so far the supreme court and the Palace.

    I think there's a good case for breaking the Met up. As a great monolith, covering a population larger than many European countries, it may simply be unreformable.

    Break it into pieces and put each under new senior management drawn from county constabularies with better reputations.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,918
    edited January 2022
    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Leon said:

    To be fair to @HYUFD he does have a point about Swansea. For instance you could rent a two bedroom, four bed family house near the centre for about £600, even in August. Leaving you a tidy £400 to spend on heroin, I mean food and transport

    What child would not be delighted with that?

    Here it is:



    https://www.booking.com/hotel/gb/stop-looking-walk-to-the-city-centre.en-gb.html



    “Dad, can we go to Swansea again? Please????”

    Looks fine if you spend most of the day at the beach here https://www.google.com/maps/uv?pb=!1s0x486e8b29af1ac0d3:0x391cdef6b09b718d!3m1!7e115!4shttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/p/AF1QipOgxMXRZWSWGdDGrVmHNyP7DsQucJ8Z__bUE7hF=w260-h175-n-k-no!5sswansea beach - Google Search!15sCgIgAQ&imagekey=!1e10!2sAF1QipOgxMXRZWSWGdDGrVmHNyP7DsQucJ8Z__bUE7hF&hl=.

    Most of the evening can be spent eating out and on the town or seeing a show at Swansea Theatre.

    Indeed if even Benidorm becomes too expensive in the height of summer, I suspect more and more families will spend their summers at beach resorts in the UK and maybe only go to Spain in the autumn or winter when it is cheaper but still warmer than the UK
    So, you're positing a world where wages in Southern Spain have outgrown the UK to such an extent that everyone is holidaying in Swansea?

    Now, I might be wrong, but that doesn't sound exactly like a dream scenario.
    It does if you own a restaurant or bar or cafe or b and b or hotel in Swansea.

    However more to do with the increase in price of flights abroad post Covid and the extra paperwork needed to travel to the EU post Brexit, which I believe you voted for whilst you currently live in California!
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,148

    MattW said:

    Here’s one for PB. The other night I had a dream that my heart was removed and subsequently I was on a waiting list for a transplant. I then proceeded to have a panic attack about not having a heart and then being unable to breathe. I then woke up and was relieved I did indeed still have my heart (to the best of my knowledge).

    What could it mean??

    You’re becoming a Tory as you get older?
    I thought he was, relatively speaking, about 22.

    Young Hague Mk 2. There's a thought.
    Wasn’t he an engineer before being a lawyer? Closer to 30
    It feels like 22 from here !
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,405
    Leon said:

    Here’s one for PB. The other night I had a dream that my heart was removed and subsequently I was on a waiting list for a transplant. I then proceeded to have a panic attack about not having a heart and then being unable to breathe. I then woke up and was relieved I did indeed still have my heart (to the best of my knowledge).

    What could it mean??

    Nothing at all. Perhaps @Leon was musing about aztecs on here and your subconscious ran with the idea of hearts being ripped out for shits and giggles... Dream analysis really is a load of piffle.
    It really isn’t a load of piffle. Dreams reveal subconscious fears, and desires, at the very least. Which is important stuff. They possibly go further than that, and the most important can reveal solutions to conscious mental obstacles

    Of course some are just meaningless, or expressive of mere appetite. Wet dreams etc
    Sorry, I’m a scientist. I like things that can be tested, proved or disproved, not just fake scientists making up any shit they like.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,454

    MattW said:

    Here’s one for PB. The other night I had a dream that my heart was removed and subsequently I was on a waiting list for a transplant. I then proceeded to have a panic attack about not having a heart and then being unable to breathe. I then woke up and was relieved I did indeed still have my heart (to the best of my knowledge).

    What could it mean??

    You’re becoming a Tory as you get older?
    I thought he was, relatively speaking, about 22.

    Young Hague Mk 2. There's a thought.
    Wasn’t he an engineer before being a lawyer? Closer to 30
    I am 30 next week yes yuck
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 8,243

    MattW said:

    Here’s one for PB. The other night I had a dream that my heart was removed and subsequently I was on a waiting list for a transplant. I then proceeded to have a panic attack about not having a heart and then being unable to breathe. I then woke up and was relieved I did indeed still have my heart (to the best of my knowledge).

    What could it mean??

    You’re becoming a Tory as you get older?
    I thought he was, relatively speaking, about 22.

    Young Hague Mk 2. There's a thought.
    Wasn’t he an engineer before being a lawyer? Closer to 30
    I am 30 next week yes yuck
    You’re less than half way through your life. Probably.
  • darkagedarkage Posts: 5,398

    On a personal note my 18 year old granddaughter has just phoned from Leeds University to say she has been awarded a place at Kyoto University in September, as part of her Italy and Japan languages and culture course.

    She has learnt Japanese to a sufficient level in just 4 months

    We are very proud of her

    Sounds great, congratulations. The most impressive part is learning Japanese in 4 months. I've tried to learn other languages throughout my life and got absolutely nowhere.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,208
    Leon said:

    Stocky said:

    Leon said:

    HYUFD said:

    Leon said:

    To be fair to @HYUFD he does have a point about Swansea. For instance you could rent a two bedroom, four bed family house near the centre for about £600, even in August. Leaving you a tidy £400 to spend on heroin, I mean food and transport

    What child would not be delighted with that?

    Here it is:



    https://www.booking.com/hotel/gb/stop-looking-walk-to-the-city-centre.en-gb.html



    “Dad, can we go to Swansea again? Please????”

    Looks fine if you spend most of the day at the beach here https://www.google.com/maps/uv?pb=!1s0x486e8b29af1ac0d3:0x391cdef6b09b718d!3m1!7e115!4shttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/p/AF1QipOgxMXRZWSWGdDGrVmHNyP7DsQucJ8Z__bUE7hF=w260-h175-n-k-no!5sswansea beach - Google Search!15sCgIgAQ&imagekey=!1e10!2sAF1QipOgxMXRZWSWGdDGrVmHNyP7DsQucJ8Z__bUE7hF&hl=.

    Most of the evening can be spent eating out and on the town or seeing a show at Swansea Theatre.

    Indeed if even Benidorm becomes too expensive in the height of summer, I suspect more and more families will spend their summers at beach resorts in the UK and maybe only go to Spain in the autumn or winter when it is cheaper but still warmer than the UK
    Quite frankly, if that kind of quality holiday accommodation is already available in Swansea at these incredible prices, then the Spanish tourist industry needs to get a wiggle on. The world is changing

    Indeed you can get actual hotels for about £300 a week in August in outer Manchester

    Like this:

    https://tinyurl.com/y7nzsofj


    Admittedly it does only have a 3/10 rating from booking.com with some actually quite critical reviews:


    Very poor
    2.0
    Liked · Competitive on price.
    Disliked · Genuinely one of the worst places I have stayed anywhere in the UK. Dilapidated and unclean, with a tense atmosphere leading to a general feeling of a lack of safety.



    2.0
    Liked · the only good thing was the clean bathroom
    Disliked · first i was surprised by the amount charged to deposit the room key (£ 20). the room was stinking a lot of cigarettes, it was difficult to sleep with the smell, when i managed to sleep there was a noise in the next room, the noise remained for hours, some woman was screaming and hitting the wall of my room. when i woke up and went to the bathroom, i came across several items thrown down the corridor in front of my room, it seems like a hurricane passed through the night.

    Horrible
    1.0
    Liked · Property is filthy It’s not fit for a dog let alone a person
    Disliked · Everything, it’s needs shutting down

    2.0
    Liked · leaving... my favourite moment was leaving
    Disliked · upon arriving i was given tiny box room no bigger than my left nut, when i booked and paid for twin bed ensuite an tv... i was itching like katie price underwear in them bed sheets, i would of felt breathing in toxic gas would of been healthier.. sat down on the toilet for an after work no.2 and slid into next doors room... i had to go buy 4 bottles of air freshener and flooded the room with it however it didn't get rid of the dead old man smell... HOWEVER if homeless consider it liveable, man like me... no chance i was out of there, packed up and left
    Oh my word, see it on Tripadviser:

    https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_Review-g1756675-d12421535-Reviews-Assheton_Arms_Hotel-Middleton_Rochdale_Greater_Manchester_England.html

    One reviewer, swimming adainst the tide, gave it 10/10. But she's from Blackpool.
    I have to confess, this is a minor hobby of mine. Finding the WORST reviewed hotels on booking.com and tripadvisor

    It offers much hilarity. And it would make a great article for a lad magazine: staying at the worst 5. How bad can they be? Sadly, these magazines no longer exist
    A connoisseur's item is the TripAdvisor reviews for Pontins in Southport. Not just the abysmal ratings but the lurid descriptions of the place: holes where the roof should be; huge bloodstains on on the wall; a carefully constructed pile of sand in the corner of room; being unable to close the door because it's come off the hinge; people being randomly required to drop their trousers to show they are not carrying drugs; families succumbing one by one to undercooked chicken nuggets ...

    These reviews have been flooding out for a decade or more. You would have thought by now people would have stopped going or the place would have been shut down.
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 9,133
    edited January 2022

    Leon said:

    Here’s one for PB. The other night I had a dream that my heart was removed and subsequently I was on a waiting list for a transplant. I then proceeded to have a panic attack about not having a heart and then being unable to breathe. I then woke up and was relieved I did indeed still have my heart (to the best of my knowledge).

    What could it mean??

    Nothing at all. Perhaps @Leon was musing about aztecs on here and your subconscious ran with the idea of hearts being ripped out for shits and giggles... Dream analysis really is a load of piffle.
    It really isn’t a load of piffle. Dreams reveal subconscious fears, and desires, at the very least. Which is important stuff. They possibly go further than that, and the most important can reveal solutions to conscious mental obstacles

    Of course some are just meaningless, or expressive of mere appetite. Wet dreams etc
    Sorry, I’m a scientist. I like things that can be tested, proved or disproved, not just fake scientists making up any shit they like.
    We may not be able to test them yet because we don't know how.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,405

    Leon said:

    Here’s one for PB. The other night I had a dream that my heart was removed and subsequently I was on a waiting list for a transplant. I then proceeded to have a panic attack about not having a heart and then being unable to breathe. I then woke up and was relieved I did indeed still have my heart (to the best of my knowledge).

    What could it mean??

    Nothing at all. Perhaps @Leon was musing about aztecs on here and your subconscious ran with the idea of hearts being ripped out for shits and giggles... Dream analysis really is a load of piffle.
    It really isn’t a load of piffle. Dreams reveal subconscious fears, and desires, at the very least. Which is important stuff. They possibly go further than that, and the most important can reveal solutions to conscious mental obstacles

    Of course some are just meaningless, or expressive of mere appetite. Wet dreams etc
    Sorry, I’m a scientist. I like things that can be tested, proved or disproved, not just fake scientists making up any shit they like.
    We may not be able to test them yet because we don't know how.
    That’s a fair question. But just ascribing stuff because ‘it’s seems right’ is so far from my world view that I need to call it piffle.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,208

    MattW said:

    Here’s one for PB. The other night I had a dream that my heart was removed and subsequently I was on a waiting list for a transplant. I then proceeded to have a panic attack about not having a heart and then being unable to breathe. I then woke up and was relieved I did indeed still have my heart (to the best of my knowledge).

    What could it mean??

    You’re becoming a Tory as you get older?
    I thought he was, relatively speaking, about 22.

    Young Hague Mk 2. There's a thought.
    Wasn’t he an engineer before being a lawyer? Closer to 30
    I am 30 next week yes yuck
    30 is a good age. Old enough to have your own mind and young enough to have things to look forward to. Enjoy it!
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,148
    edited January 2022
    Carnyx said:

    Foxy said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Leon said:

    To be fair to @HYUFD he does have a point about Swansea. For instance you could rent a two bedroom, four bed family house near the centre for about £600, even in August. Leaving you a tidy £400 to spend on heroin, I mean food and transport

    What child would not be delighted with that?

    Here it is:



    https://www.booking.com/hotel/gb/stop-looking-walk-to-the-city-centre.en-gb.html

    “Dad, can we go to Swansea again? Please????”

    Looks fine if you spend most of the day at the beach here https://www.google.com/maps/uv?pb=!1s0x486e8b29af1ac0d3:0x391cdef6b09b718d!3m1!7e115!4shttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/p/AF1QipOgxMXRZWSWGdDGrVmHNyP7DsQucJ8Z__bUE7hF=w260-h175-n-k-no!5sswansea beach - Google Search!15sCgIgAQ&imagekey=!1e10!2sAF1QipOgxMXRZWSWGdDGrVmHNyP7DsQucJ8Z__bUE7hF&hl=.

    Most of the evening can be spent eating out and on the town or seeing a show at Swansea Theatre.

    Indeed if even Benidorm becomes too expensive in the height of summer, I suspect more and more families will spend their summers at beach resorts in the UK and maybe only go to Spain in the autumn or winter when it is cheaper but still warmer than the UK
    So, you're positing a world where wages in Southern Spain have outgrown the UK to such an extent that everyone is holidaying in Swansea?

    Now, I might be wrong, but that doesn't sound exactly like a dream scenario.
    The joys of Brexit...
    Never mind, you can always nip over to Skegness for your hols. An old Leicester tradition.

    PS: Never got there myself. Could be splendid for all I know.
    Depends what you want.

    Our local cycling club have a route called "Let's all go to Skeggy", which is 300km as a round trip.

    I have a tin of "Skegness can be *so* bracing" air on my desk. It has a picture of a so far unidentified denizen of PB on it.


  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,368

    On a personal note my 18 year old granddaughter has just phoned from Leeds University to say she has been awarded a place at Kyoto University in September, as part of her Italy and Japan languages and culture course.

    She has learnt Japanese to a sufficient level in just 4 months

    We are very proud of her

    A stunning place. I'd go back tomorrow!
  • On a personal note my 18 year old granddaughter has just phoned from Leeds University to say she has been awarded a place at Kyoto University in September, as part of her Italy and Japan languages and culture course.

    She has learnt Japanese to a sufficient level in just 4 months

    We are very proud of her

    I have never achieved 14 likes and am overwhelmed how you have all reacted to our wonderful family news

    As I said to my daughter just imagine the doors that will open with Kyoto University on your cv

    In these days of depressing news it is a good news story and thank you to everyone
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,714
    Mail online now headlining fury of bereaved families at Met stitch-up.


    I presume Dacre will not follow with actual Mail paper for Saturday but bad for The Clown.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,148
    edited January 2022
    FF43 said:

    MattW said:

    Here’s one for PB. The other night I had a dream that my heart was removed and subsequently I was on a waiting list for a transplant. I then proceeded to have a panic attack about not having a heart and then being unable to breathe. I then woke up and was relieved I did indeed still have my heart (to the best of my knowledge).

    What could it mean??

    You’re becoming a Tory as you get older?
    I thought he was, relatively speaking, about 22.

    Young Hague Mk 2. There's a thought.
    Wasn’t he an engineer before being a lawyer? Closer to 30
    I am 30 next week yes yuck
    30 is a good age. Old enough to have your own mind and young enough to have things to look forward to. Enjoy it!
    There was me trying to help and they all go and sabotage the illusion.

    What you need is a dog.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,714
    Sam Coates Sky
    @SamCoatesSky
    ·
    21m
    NEW

    * Boris Johnson will be handed a new redacted version of Sue Gray report in coming hours or days
    * This will be compliant with Met request nothing jeopardises their inquiry
    * This means it will be heavily redacted
    * Publication next week when the Commons is sitting

    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1487148522508103680
  • darkagedarkage Posts: 5,398
    Foxy said:

    darkage said:

    Got to day 5 of Covid. Took another LFT test in the expectation that I would be free in a couple of days time, but thats not going to happen. I am still infectious. Makes sense as I am feeling a bit rough, although the main illness has passed.

    Coming to terms with the fact that I may need to self isolate for the full 11 days. (10 days plus the day of test).

    Obviously I'm glad i'm not welded in to an apartment block, but this requirement to self isolate is highly draconian and intrusive.

    Given that the virus is absolutely everywhere, and isn't killing people at anything like the numbers of 2020; I would suggest these rules are excessive and need to be quickly scrapped.

    If they aren't scrapped people will start to ignore and disobey them. I could have avoided the whole thing by just not taking a covid test and regarding the episode as a bout of winter flu, which is what it would normally be described as.


    I am on day 2, and isolating is a bit tedious. I may be able to work from Tuesday, depending on LFTs and my managers risk assessment.

    I don't particularly want to give it to vulnerable people, so will carry on isolating until safe. Mrs Foxy has a negative PCR so can return to work on Monday, subject to daily LFT. The Trust is pretty desperate for staff.
    I can imagine.

    I don't want to give this to vulnerable people either, but if people are going out, the probability with Omicron is that they are going to catch it and me staying at home won't make any difference to anything.

    It is quite difficult to understand why I can't at least go out for a drive or a walk around the block.
  • pigeonpigeon Posts: 4,839
    Whitewash incoming...

    A heavily redacted report into Downing Street parties by the senior civil servant Sue Gray will be published imminently, senior government sources told the Guardian, after Scotland Yard provoked fury and confusion by revealing it had demanded key details be removed.

    MPs labelled the Metropolitan police a broken organisation after the force admitted it had asked Gray to make “minimal reference” in her inquiry report to matters its officers were now investigating.

    Gray’s team had been considering sending a redacted version of the report to No 10 or waiting for the Met to conclude its inquiry and then sending the full report. On Friday night, they decided to send a redacted version, at the request of the Met, and are not believed to be intending to submit anything further to Downing Street.


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jan/28/sue-gray-report-fears-indefinite-delay-met-intervention-partygate
  • Sam Coates Sky
    @SamCoatesSky
    ·
    21m
    NEW

    * Boris Johnson will be handed a new redacted version of Sue Gray report in coming hours or days
    * This will be compliant with Met request nothing jeopardises their inquiry
    * This means it will be heavily redacted
    * Publication next week when the Commons is sitting

    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1487148522508103680

    More questions than answers
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    edited January 2022

    IshmaelZ said:

    I’m feeling old.

    I referenced the film “Twelve Monkeys” in a conversation at work. My colleague pointed out he was 1 when it came out…

    I’m feeling old.

    I referenced the film “Twelve Monkeys” in a conversation at work. My colleague pointed out he was 1 when it came out…

    Actually, you referred to it.
    Actually I referenced it.

    Try google if you don’t know what a word means.
    Google "numpty."
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,368
    Guardian suggesting substantially redacted Gray report is imminent.

    Surely this is worse than no report. Implying nothing to see, because what we want to see has been removed. It smack of corruption.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070
    MattW said:

    Carnyx said:

    Foxy said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Leon said:

    To be fair to @HYUFD he does have a point about Swansea. For instance you could rent a two bedroom, four bed family house near the centre for about £600, even in August. Leaving you a tidy £400 to spend on heroin, I mean food and transport

    What child would not be delighted with that?

    Here it is:



    https://www.booking.com/hotel/gb/stop-looking-walk-to-the-city-centre.en-gb.html

    “Dad, can we go to Swansea again? Please????”

    Looks fine if you spend most of the day at the beach here https://www.google.com/maps/uv?pb=!1s0x486e8b29af1ac0d3:0x391cdef6b09b718d!3m1!7e115!4shttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/p/AF1QipOgxMXRZWSWGdDGrVmHNyP7DsQucJ8Z__bUE7hF=w260-h175-n-k-no!5sswansea beach - Google Search!15sCgIgAQ&imagekey=!1e10!2sAF1QipOgxMXRZWSWGdDGrVmHNyP7DsQucJ8Z__bUE7hF&hl=.

    Most of the evening can be spent eating out and on the town or seeing a show at Swansea Theatre.

    Indeed if even Benidorm becomes too expensive in the height of summer, I suspect more and more families will spend their summers at beach resorts in the UK and maybe only go to Spain in the autumn or winter when it is cheaper but still warmer than the UK
    So, you're positing a world where wages in Southern Spain have outgrown the UK to such an extent that everyone is holidaying in Swansea?

    Now, I might be wrong, but that doesn't sound exactly like a dream scenario.
    The joys of Brexit...
    Never mind, you can always nip over to Skegness for your hols. An old Leicester tradition.

    PS: Never got there myself. Could be splendid for all I know.
    Depends what you want.

    Our local cycling club have a route called "Let's all go to Skeggy", which is 300km as a round trip.

    I have a tin of "Skegness can be *so* bracing" air on my desk. It has a picture of a so far unidentified denizen of PB on it.


    More or less how I've always imagined @Big_G_NorthWales .
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,714
    Johnson will wave a piece of paper that is so black with redaction that there is nothing left to read and announce that he cannot comment further until the police have finished.

    What a low state this country has reached.

    How many students could get the local police to redact everything about their £10k fines for having a birthday party in lockdown? At least they had the excuse of actually not setting the fecking rules and being young.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    Boris Johnson will receive a redacted version of the long-awaited report into lockdown-busting parties held in Downing Street and across Whitehall in "the coming hours or days", Sky News understands - as the Metropolitan Police has denied it is seeking to delay its publication.

    https://news.sky.com/story/partygate-met-police-denies-delaying-publication-of-sue-gray-report-12527684
  • Beibheirli_CBeibheirli_C Posts: 8,163

    Guardian suggesting substantially redacted Gray report is imminent.

    Surely this is worse than no report. Implying nothing to see, because what we want to see has been removed. It smack of corruption.

    I am sure that certain people on here will use the minimised report to say "Look - we said there was nothing to see. Here is the proof..."
  • Nigelb said:

    MattW said:

    Carnyx said:

    Foxy said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    Leon said:

    To be fair to @HYUFD he does have a point about Swansea. For instance you could rent a two bedroom, four bed family house near the centre for about £600, even in August. Leaving you a tidy £400 to spend on heroin, I mean food and transport

    What child would not be delighted with that?

    Here it is:



    https://www.booking.com/hotel/gb/stop-looking-walk-to-the-city-centre.en-gb.html

    “Dad, can we go to Swansea again? Please????”

    Looks fine if you spend most of the day at the beach here https://www.google.com/maps/uv?pb=!1s0x486e8b29af1ac0d3:0x391cdef6b09b718d!3m1!7e115!4shttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/p/AF1QipOgxMXRZWSWGdDGrVmHNyP7DsQucJ8Z__bUE7hF=w260-h175-n-k-no!5sswansea beach - Google Search!15sCgIgAQ&imagekey=!1e10!2sAF1QipOgxMXRZWSWGdDGrVmHNyP7DsQucJ8Z__bUE7hF&hl=.

    Most of the evening can be spent eating out and on the town or seeing a show at Swansea Theatre.

    Indeed if even Benidorm becomes too expensive in the height of summer, I suspect more and more families will spend their summers at beach resorts in the UK and maybe only go to Spain in the autumn or winter when it is cheaper but still warmer than the UK
    So, you're positing a world where wages in Southern Spain have outgrown the UK to such an extent that everyone is holidaying in Swansea?

    Now, I might be wrong, but that doesn't sound exactly like a dream scenario.
    The joys of Brexit...
    Never mind, you can always nip over to Skegness for your hols. An old Leicester tradition.

    PS: Never got there myself. Could be splendid for all I know.
    Depends what you want.

    Our local cycling club have a route called "Let's all go to Skeggy", which is 300km as a round trip.

    I have a tin of "Skegness can be *so* bracing" air on my desk. It has a picture of a so far unidentified denizen of PB on it.


    More or less how I've always imagined @Big_G_NorthWales .
    Actually much taller and a little less robust but still my nickname is 50 years old
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,208

    Guardian suggesting substantially redacted Gray report is imminent.

    Surely this is worse than no report. Implying nothing to see, because what we want to see has been removed. It smack of corruption.

    Yes and No, I think. It allows Johnson to switch his hold message from "Wait for Sue Gray" to "Wait for the police to complete their enquiries". Neither is relevant to the political question of whether Johnson is a fit person to be prime minister. His immediate risk is he gets VONCed. This development makes that step less likely.
  • Guardian suggesting substantially redacted Gray report is imminent.

    Surely this is worse than no report. Implying nothing to see, because what we want to see has been removed. It smack of corruption.

    Is the betting on Rishi changing
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,633

    Sam Coates Sky
    @SamCoatesSky
    ·
    21m
    NEW

    * Boris Johnson will be handed a new redacted version of Sue Gray report in coming hours or days
    * This will be compliant with Met request nothing jeopardises their inquiry
    * This means it will be heavily redacted
    * Publication next week when the Commons is sitting

    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1487148522508103680

    Might get him sweating like Peppa's dad, wondering what is in the gaps...
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070

    On a personal note my 18 year old granddaughter has just phoned from Leeds University to say she has been awarded a place at Kyoto University in September, as part of her Italy and Japan languages and culture course.

    She has learnt Japanese to a sufficient level in just 4 months

    We are very proud of her

    I have never achieved 14 likes and am overwhelmed how you have all reacted to our wonderful family news

    As I said to my daughter just imagine the doors that will open with Kyoto University on your cv

    In these days of depressing news it is a good news story and thank you to everyone
    Nineteen and counting.
  • Guardian suggesting substantially redacted Gray report is imminent.

    Surely this is worse than no report. Implying nothing to see, because what we want to see has been removed. It smack of corruption.

    I am sure that certain people on here will use the minimised report to say "Look - we said there was nothing to see. Here is the proof..."
    I wont
  • pigeonpigeon Posts: 4,839
    edited January 2022

    Guardian suggesting substantially redacted Gray report is imminent.

    Surely this is worse than no report. Implying nothing to see, because what we want to see has been removed. It smack of corruption.

    The one advantage in the report being published is that all the Tory MPs who have been using the lack of publication to prevaricate on Johnson's future will be forced to take a position: 'up with this we will not put,' or 'we will continue to fence sit until we die of sepsis from all the splinters embedded in our arses the police have concluded their enquiries.'

    If it's the latter position, as one strongly suspects it will be, then the issue will be booted into the long grass (probably until after Parliament rises for the Summer recess, when all the plotters have dispersed to their holiday boltholes) and will result in action being taken exclusively against obscure functionaries, if anyone gets a slap on the wrist at all. Johnson will then be safe.

    The greased piglet has almost wriggled free again.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 8,243
    IshmaelZ said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    I’m feeling old.

    I referenced the film “Twelve Monkeys” in a conversation at work. My colleague pointed out he was 1 when it came out…

    I’m feeling old.

    I referenced the film “Twelve Monkeys” in a conversation at work. My colleague pointed out he was 1 when it came out…

    Actually, you referred to it.
    Actually I referenced it.

    Try google if you don’t know what a word means.
    Google "numpty."
    I’ve no idea who you are. And you have decided to be insulting because I used a different word to the one you would have chosen.

    What a limited charmless person you must be.
  • pigeonpigeon Posts: 4,839
    Foxy said:

    Sam Coates Sky
    @SamCoatesSky
    ·
    21m
    NEW

    * Boris Johnson will be handed a new redacted version of Sue Gray report in coming hours or days
    * This will be compliant with Met request nothing jeopardises their inquiry
    * This means it will be heavily redacted
    * Publication next week when the Commons is sitting

    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1487148522508103680

    Might get him sweating like Peppa's dad, wondering what is in the gaps...
    I suppose that the full report might leak?

    More likely it'll be set on fire and chucked down a mineshaft (along with poor Sue Gray's reputation,) which will be backfilled with quick-setting concrete.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,714
    pigeon said:

    Guardian suggesting substantially redacted Gray report is imminent.

    Surely this is worse than no report. Implying nothing to see, because what we want to see has been removed. It smack of corruption.

    The one advantage in the report being published is that all the Tory MPs who have been using the lack of publication to prevaricate on Johnson's future will be forced to take a position: 'up with this we will not put,' or 'we will continue to fence sit until we die of sepsis from all the splinters embedded in our arses the police have concluded their enquiries.'

    If it's the latter position, as one strongly suspects it will be, then the issue will be booted into the long grass (probably until after Parliament rises for the Summer recess, when all the plotters have dispersed to their holiday boltholes) and will result in action being taken exclusively against obscure functionaries, if anyone gets a slap on the wrist at all. Johnson will then be safe.

    The greased piglet has almost wriggled free again.
    pigeon said:

    Guardian suggesting substantially redacted Gray report is imminent.

    Surely this is worse than no report. Implying nothing to see, because what we want to see has been removed. It smack of corruption.

    The one advantage in the report being published is that all the Tory MPs who have been using the lack of publication to prevaricate on Johnson's future will be forced to take a position: 'up with this we will not put,' or 'we will continue to fence sit until we die of sepsis from all the splinters embedded in our arses the police have concluded their enquiries.'

    If it's the latter position, as one strongly suspects it will be, then the issue will be booted into the long grass (probably until after Parliament rises for the Summer recess, when all the plotters have dispersed to their holiday boltholes) and will result in action being taken exclusively against obscure functionaries, if anyone gets a slap on the wrist at all. Johnson will then be safe.

    The greased piglet has almost wriggled free again.
    Come on Dom!!!!!
  • Johnson visiting Kiev next week suggested by C4 News.

    Tank driving opportunities abound for Johnson.

    Ambushed by Chicken Kiev!
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,714

    Guardian suggesting substantially redacted Gray report is imminent.

    Surely this is worse than no report. Implying nothing to see, because what we want to see has been removed. It smack of corruption.

    Is the betting on Rishi changing
    Steady at 2/1
  • IshmaelZ said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    I’m feeling old.

    I referenced the film “Twelve Monkeys” in a conversation at work. My colleague pointed out he was 1 when it came out…

    I’m feeling old.

    I referenced the film “Twelve Monkeys” in a conversation at work. My colleague pointed out he was 1 when it came out…

    Actually, you referred to it.
    Actually I referenced it.

    Try google if you don’t know what a word means.
    Google "numpty."
    I’ve no idea who you are. And you have decided to be insulting because I used a different word to the one you would have chosen.

    What a limited charmless person you must be.
    - "I didn't come here to be insulted!"
    - "Where do you usually go?"
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,134
    Leon said:

    Here’s one for PB. The other night I had a dream that my heart was removed and subsequently I was on a waiting list for a transplant. I then proceeded to have a panic attack about not having a heart and then being unable to breathe. I then woke up and was relieved I did indeed still have my heart (to the best of my knowledge).

    What could it mean??

    Nothing at all. Perhaps @Leon was musing about aztecs on here and your subconscious ran with the idea of hearts being ripped out for shits and giggles... Dream analysis really is a load of piffle.
    It really isn’t a load of piffle. Dreams reveal subconscious fears, and desires, at the very least. Which is important stuff. They possibly go further than that, and the most important can reveal solutions to conscious mental obstacles

    Of course some are just meaningless, or expressive of mere appetite. Wet dreams etc
    Yes, I sometimes have dreams which are surreal but hone in like a lazer on my very deepest fears and paranoias and insecurities. The things I could tell no-one, partly through not having the words and partly through not wishing to verbalize these things even if I could. I dislike these dreams intensely. I can usually snap out of them quickly on awakening but sometimes a weird and unpleasant mental fug lingers for an hour or so.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,714
    Paul Brand
    @PaulBrandITV
    ·
    11m
    The big question now… how “redacted”… beyond all meaning?

    https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1487155154185039875
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,859

    Here’s one for PB. The other night I had a dream that my heart was removed and subsequently I was on a waiting list for a transplant. I then proceeded to have a panic attack about not having a heart and then being unable to breathe. I then woke up and was relieved I did indeed still have my heart (to the best of my knowledge).

    What could it mean??

    You are drinking too much in the evenings
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,633
    pigeon said:

    Foxy said:

    Sam Coates Sky
    @SamCoatesSky
    ·
    21m
    NEW

    * Boris Johnson will be handed a new redacted version of Sue Gray report in coming hours or days
    * This will be compliant with Met request nothing jeopardises their inquiry
    * This means it will be heavily redacted
    * Publication next week when the Commons is sitting

    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1487148522508103680

    Might get him sweating like Peppa's dad, wondering what is in the gaps...
    I suppose that the full report might leak?

    More likely it'll be set on fire and chucked down a mineshaft (along with poor Sue Gray's reputation,) which will be backfilled with quick-setting concrete.
    Had anyone heard of Sue Gray before this, or knew anything of her reputation?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,714

    Johnson visiting Kiev next week suggested by C4 News.

    Tank driving opportunities abound for Johnson.

    Ambushed by Chicken Kiev!
    The way the world has been in last two years I would not be surprised if he ends up in Kiev surrounded by Russians and effectively a hostage who Biden has to rescue.

    Still, stops MPs reading too much of the Gray report eh? So it's a win.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,368

    Guardian suggesting substantially redacted Gray report is imminent.

    Surely this is worse than no report. Implying nothing to see, because what we want to see has been removed. It smack of corruption.

    Is the betting on Rishi changing
    I would imagine so.

    I am seldom angry about events but along with the rest of the nation we are being played by Johnson. Johnson is laughing at the peasant scum voting public, but we believe he's laughing with us. I am angry now
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,714

    IshmaelZ said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    I’m feeling old.

    I referenced the film “Twelve Monkeys” in a conversation at work. My colleague pointed out he was 1 when it came out…

    I’m feeling old.

    I referenced the film “Twelve Monkeys” in a conversation at work. My colleague pointed out he was 1 when it came out…

    Actually, you referred to it.
    Actually I referenced it.

    Try google if you don’t know what a word means.
    Google "numpty."
    I’ve no idea who you are. And you have decided to be insulting because I used a different word to the one you would have chosen.

    What a limited charmless person you must be.
    - "I didn't come here to be insulted!"
    - "Where do you usually go?"
    Is that one of Barry Cryers?
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,859
    edited January 2022
    Leon said:

    Here’s one for PB. The other night I had a dream that my heart was removed and subsequently I was on a waiting list for a transplant. I then proceeded to have a panic attack about not having a heart and then being unable to breathe. I then woke up and was relieved I did indeed still have my heart (to the best of my knowledge).

    What could it mean??

    Nothing at all. Perhaps @Leon was musing about aztecs on here and your subconscious ran with the idea of hearts being ripped out for shits and giggles... Dream analysis really is a load of piffle.
    It really isn’t a load of piffle. Dreams reveal subconscious fears, and desires, at the very least. Which is important stuff. They possibly go further than that, and the most important can reveal solutions to conscious mental obstacles

    Of course some are just meaningless, or expressive of mere appetite. Wet dreams etc
    Nonsense. It is simply the brain keeping its visual processing active, to avoid neural capacity and connections being reallocated to the other senses while your eyes are closed.
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 9,133
    edited January 2022
    Heavily 'redacted' and delayed report out on Monday, in a tank in Kiev by Tuesday, job done ; he hopes. But I'm not so sure about that at all.
  • IshmaelZ said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    I’m feeling old.

    I referenced the film “Twelve Monkeys” in a conversation at work. My colleague pointed out he was 1 when it came out…

    I’m feeling old.

    I referenced the film “Twelve Monkeys” in a conversation at work. My colleague pointed out he was 1 when it came out…

    Actually, you referred to it.
    Actually I referenced it.

    Try google if you don’t know what a word means.
    Google "numpty."
    I’ve no idea who you are. And you have decided to be insulting because I used a different word to the one you would have chosen.

    What a limited charmless person you must be.
    I'm not sure what his problem is. It seems to me you conveyed exactly the nuance you wanted. Reference as a verb has been a "thing" for at least 100 years and has been winding up grammar pedants throughout that time.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,633
    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    Here’s one for PB. The other night I had a dream that my heart was removed and subsequently I was on a waiting list for a transplant. I then proceeded to have a panic attack about not having a heart and then being unable to breathe. I then woke up and was relieved I did indeed still have my heart (to the best of my knowledge).

    What could it mean??

    Nothing at all. Perhaps @Leon was musing about aztecs on here and your subconscious ran with the idea of hearts being ripped out for shits and giggles... Dream analysis really is a load of piffle.
    It really isn’t a load of piffle. Dreams reveal subconscious fears, and desires, at the very least. Which is important stuff. They possibly go further than that, and the most important can reveal solutions to conscious mental obstacles

    Of course some are just meaningless, or expressive of mere appetite. Wet dreams etc
    Yes, I sometimes have dreams which are surreal but hone in like a lazer on my very deepest fears and paranoias and insecurities. The things I could tell no-one, partly through not having the words and partly through not wishing to verbalize these things even if I could. I dislike these dreams intensely. I can usually snap out of them quickly on awakening but sometimes a weird and unpleasant mental fug lingers for an hour or so.
    Most dreams fade quickly, so hard to recall after even an hour, despite being vivid at the moment of wakening.

    I used to get curious and puzzling dreams, that later came true, of events and people that I couldn't know about. Perhaps from subconscious knowledge, but a really uncanny feeling when they start to play out in real life.

    Not that I think @Gallowgate is foretelling his future...
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    IshmaelZ said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    I’m feeling old.

    I referenced the film “Twelve Monkeys” in a conversation at work. My colleague pointed out he was 1 when it came out…

    I’m feeling old.

    I referenced the film “Twelve Monkeys” in a conversation at work. My colleague pointed out he was 1 when it came out…

    Actually, you referred to it.
    Actually I referenced it.

    Try google if you don’t know what a word means.
    Google "numpty."
    I’ve no idea who you are. And you have decided to be insulting because I used a different word to the one you would have chosen.

    What a limited charmless person you must be.
    Yes. You hardly scratch the surface of what a complete and utter fcki8ng cnt I am.
  • IshmaelZ said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    I’m feeling old.

    I referenced the film “Twelve Monkeys” in a conversation at work. My colleague pointed out he was 1 when it came out…

    I’m feeling old.

    I referenced the film “Twelve Monkeys” in a conversation at work. My colleague pointed out he was 1 when it came out…

    Actually, you referred to it.
    Actually I referenced it.

    Try google if you don’t know what a word means.
    Google "numpty."
    I’ve no idea who you are. And you have decided to be insulting because I used a different word to the one you would have chosen.

    What a limited charmless person you must be.
    - "I didn't come here to be insulted!"
    - "Where do you usually go?"
    Is that one of Barry Cryers?
    Animaniacs is where I heard it.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,714
    Meanwhile...


    Currently
    @currently
    ·
    2h
    Updated snowfall forecast from
    @NWSBoston
    (left)
    Updated reasonable worst case forecast (right)

    23" would be a top-10 snowstorm in Boston history
    27.7" would be the city's biggest snowstorm ever

    https://twitter.com/currently/status/1487115580289302536
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,401
    edited January 2022
    Serious question.
    What was it about the prior career of Boris Johnson which led anyone to think there was any prospect whatsoever of anyone ever seeing this report?
    Despite all the anger, even his opponents have been giving Big Dog the benefit of the doubt.
    We have been far too trusting about what an actual piece of work he is.
  • pigeonpigeon Posts: 4,839
    Foxy said:

    pigeon said:

    Foxy said:

    Sam Coates Sky
    @SamCoatesSky
    ·
    21m
    NEW

    * Boris Johnson will be handed a new redacted version of Sue Gray report in coming hours or days
    * This will be compliant with Met request nothing jeopardises their inquiry
    * This means it will be heavily redacted
    * Publication next week when the Commons is sitting

    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1487148522508103680

    Might get him sweating like Peppa's dad, wondering what is in the gaps...
    I suppose that the full report might leak?

    More likely it'll be set on fire and chucked down a mineshaft (along with poor Sue Gray's reputation,) which will be backfilled with quick-setting concrete.
    Had anyone heard of Sue Gray before this, or knew anything of her reputation?
    Very few of us, I should imagine.

    I've no reason to suppose that what's become of her report is in any way her fault, but a document with her name on it is about to become a byword for blatant concealment of the truth.

    This is what happens to people who get anywhere near that shit Johnson. He's a contaminant. His stench lingers.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,633
    IshmaelZ said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    I’m feeling old.

    I referenced the film “Twelve Monkeys” in a conversation at work. My colleague pointed out he was 1 when it came out…

    I’m feeling old.

    I referenced the film “Twelve Monkeys” in a conversation at work. My colleague pointed out he was 1 when it came out…

    Actually, you referred to it.
    Actually I referenced it.

    Try google if you don’t know what a word means.
    Google "numpty."
    I’ve no idea who you are. And you have decided to be insulting because I used a different word to the one you would have chosen.

    What a limited charmless person you must be.
    Yes. You hardly scratch the surface of what a complete and utter fcki8ng cnt I am.
    At least you have insight...
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    pigeon said:

    Guardian suggesting substantially redacted Gray report is imminent.

    Surely this is worse than no report. Implying nothing to see, because what we want to see has been removed. It smack of corruption.

    The one advantage in the report being published is that all the Tory MPs who have been using the lack of publication to prevaricate on Johnson's future will be forced to take a position: 'up with this we will not put,' or 'we will continue to fence sit until we die of sepsis from all the splinters embedded in our arses the police have concluded their enquiries.'

    If it's the latter position, as one strongly suspects it will be, then the issue will be booted into the long grass (probably until after Parliament rises for the Summer recess, when all the plotters have dispersed to their holiday boltholes) and will result in action being taken exclusively against obscure functionaries, if anyone gets a slap on the wrist at all. Johnson will then be safe.

    The greased piglet has almost wriggled free again.
    I think that is right. Again, I think back to Blix: nobody cares what you publish, just fucking publish already.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,748
    FF43 said:

    Guardian suggesting substantially redacted Gray report is imminent.

    Surely this is worse than no report. Implying nothing to see, because what we want to see has been removed. It smack of corruption.

    Yes and No, I think. It allows Johnson to switch his hold message from "Wait for Sue Gray" to "Wait for the police to complete their enquiries". Neither is relevant to the political question of whether Johnson is a fit person to be prime minister. His immediate risk is he gets VONCed. This development makes that step less likely.
    If it really is going to be redacted, then the papers will be full of pictures of something very obviously being hidden, and people are naturally going to want to know what.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    Foxy said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    I’m feeling old.

    I referenced the film “Twelve Monkeys” in a conversation at work. My colleague pointed out he was 1 when it came out…

    I’m feeling old.

    I referenced the film “Twelve Monkeys” in a conversation at work. My colleague pointed out he was 1 when it came out…

    Actually, you referred to it.
    Actually I referenced it.

    Try google if you don’t know what a word means.
    Google "numpty."
    I’ve no idea who you are. And you have decided to be insulting because I used a different word to the one you would have chosen.

    What a limited charmless person you must be.
    Yes. You hardly scratch the surface of what a complete and utter fcki8ng cnt I am.
    At least you have insight...
    Sorry, yes, I am on one side of the doggies vs poor, brown, foreign people divide, you on the other. Takes all sorts, and who is to say who's in the right?
  • Foxy said:

    pigeon said:

    Foxy said:

    Sam Coates Sky
    @SamCoatesSky
    ·
    21m
    NEW

    * Boris Johnson will be handed a new redacted version of Sue Gray report in coming hours or days
    * This will be compliant with Met request nothing jeopardises their inquiry
    * This means it will be heavily redacted
    * Publication next week when the Commons is sitting

    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1487148522508103680

    Might get him sweating like Peppa's dad, wondering what is in the gaps...
    I suppose that the full report might leak?

    More likely it'll be set on fire and chucked down a mineshaft (along with poor Sue Gray's reputation,) which will be backfilled with quick-setting concrete.
    Had anyone heard of Sue Gray before this, or knew anything of her reputation?
    Smithson jnr seemed to know a fair bit about her. Wasn't terribly complimentary.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,990
    2/ There are no plans at this stage to release an underacted version of the Sue Gray report after the police finish their work.

    Her conclusions about what happened at those more serious events being examined by the police do not automatically see the light of day


    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1487160535921614849
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,714
    Johnson: "So whizz kids, with PPEs, what would really distract from the Gray report next week?"

    PPE Spad: "I dunno, maybe fly out to Kiev and face down Putin in the middle of winter?"

    Johnson: "Works for me. But make sure we use the government plane and not some shitty RAF thing."
  • HeathenerHeathener Posts: 7,084
    Scott_xP said:

    2/ There are no plans at this stage to release an underacted version of the Sue Gray report after the police finish their work.

    Her conclusions about what happened at those more serious events being examined by the police do not automatically see the light of day


    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1487160535921614849

    I don't understand that, and I don't mean the misspelling. Don't those two sentences contradict each other? What am I missing?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,714
    Scott_xP said:

    2/ There are no plans at this stage to release an underacted version of the Sue Gray report after the police finish their work.

    Her conclusions about what happened at those more serious events being examined by the police do not automatically see the light of day


    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1487160535921614849

    Some fucker better leak this or there is no God in the sky.
  • pingping Posts: 3,805
    edited January 2022
    Scott_xP said:

    2/ There are no plans at this stage to release an underacted version of the Sue Gray report after the police finish their work.

    Her conclusions about what happened at those more serious events being examined by the police do not automatically see the light of day


    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1487160535921614849

    It’s looking good for Boris. As I’ve been saying, the markets have overestimated the chance of him going all through partygate.

    Currently I’d have a 2022 exit as

    2/1 yes
    1/2 no

    The markets had the odds reversed, last time I checked.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,011

    Meanwhile...


    Currently
    @currently
    ·
    2h
    Updated snowfall forecast from
    @NWSBoston
    (left)
    Updated reasonable worst case forecast (right)

    23" would be a top-10 snowstorm in Boston history
    27.7" would be the city's biggest snowstorm ever

    https://twitter.com/currently/status/1487115580289302536

    If they get 23" in Boston then I would expect at least a foot in Skegness.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,355
    .
    Scott_xP said:

    2/ There are no plans at this stage to release an underacted version of the Sue Gray report after the police finish their work.

    Her conclusions about what happened at those more serious events being examined by the police do not automatically see the light of day


    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1487160535921614849

    There's no good reason for that at all. The only reason is the same one that led them to try and get Paterson off - they think they can get away with it. Unfortunately, it looks like they are right.
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 9,133
    edited January 2022
    The poor sub-editors at the Mail must be very tired tonight . Something you rarely see, but very amusing.

    "On Friday evening, the Metropolitan Police announced they have the evidence they had requested from the Cabinet Office, but doubled down on their stance that the report should be redacted in a bid 'to protect the integrity of the police investigation'.

    Needs a line here saying they this evening announced they have it but doubling down on their instance that Sue Gray report be redacted. Then full new statement goes below first pic – some in the text – and then the full in a box".
  • FF43 said:

    MattW said:

    Here’s one for PB. The other night I had a dream that my heart was removed and subsequently I was on a waiting list for a transplant. I then proceeded to have a panic attack about not having a heart and then being unable to breathe. I then woke up and was relieved I did indeed still have my heart (to the best of my knowledge).

    What could it mean??

    You’re becoming a Tory as you get older?
    I thought he was, relatively speaking, about 22.

    Young Hague Mk 2. There's a thought.
    Wasn’t he an engineer before being a lawyer? Closer to 30
    I am 30 next week yes yuck
    30 is a good age. Old enough to have your own mind and young enough to have things to look forward to. Enjoy it!
    You're not getting any younger.....and you're not getting any older. In fact you're just not getting any. [R.I.P. Barry Cryer.]
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,153

    Foxy said:

    pigeon said:

    Foxy said:

    Sam Coates Sky
    @SamCoatesSky
    ·
    21m
    NEW

    * Boris Johnson will be handed a new redacted version of Sue Gray report in coming hours or days
    * This will be compliant with Met request nothing jeopardises their inquiry
    * This means it will be heavily redacted
    * Publication next week when the Commons is sitting

    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1487148522508103680

    Might get him sweating like Peppa's dad, wondering what is in the gaps...
    I suppose that the full report might leak?

    More likely it'll be set on fire and chucked down a mineshaft (along with poor Sue Gray's reputation,) which will be backfilled with quick-setting concrete.
    Had anyone heard of Sue Gray before this, or knew anything of her reputation?
    Smithson jnr seemed to know a fair bit about her. Wasn't terribly complimentary.
    There's quite a lot of information out there for those who choose to dig. She is famously averse to putting things in writing, and hates both email and freedom of information requests.

    If someone is up for a peerage, she gives a straight yes or no, without explanation over the phone, and her word is - apparently - final.

  • HeathenerHeathener Posts: 7,084
    Foxy said:

    kinabalu said:

    Leon said:

    Here’s one for PB. The other night I had a dream that my heart was removed and subsequently I was on a waiting list for a transplant. I then proceeded to have a panic attack about not having a heart and then being unable to breathe. I then woke up and was relieved I did indeed still have my heart (to the best of my knowledge).

    What could it mean??

    Nothing at all. Perhaps @Leon was musing about aztecs on here and your subconscious ran with the idea of hearts being ripped out for shits and giggles... Dream analysis really is a load of piffle.
    It really isn’t a load of piffle. Dreams reveal subconscious fears, and desires, at the very least. Which is important stuff. They possibly go further than that, and the most important can reveal solutions to conscious mental obstacles

    Of course some are just meaningless, or expressive of mere appetite. Wet dreams etc
    Yes, I sometimes have dreams which are surreal but hone in like a lazer on my very deepest fears and paranoias and insecurities. The things I could tell no-one, partly through not having the words and partly through not wishing to verbalize these things even if I could. I dislike these dreams intensely. I can usually snap out of them quickly on awakening but sometimes a weird and unpleasant mental fug lingers for an hour or so.
    Most dreams fade quickly, so hard to recall after even an hour, despite being vivid at the moment of wakening.

    I used to get curious and puzzling dreams, that later came true, of events and people that I couldn't know about. Perhaps from subconscious knowledge, but a really uncanny feeling when they start to play out in real life.

    .
    According to Bessel van der Kolk (The Body Keeps the Score) dreams, which occur in REM sleep, are the brain's way of dealing with stress and trauma by scrambling them (hence why sometimes so weird) in order that they can then be parked in the long memory. It's the body's way of dealing with stress and trauma.

    So we shouldn't go around replaying or telling our dreams. Nor should we read meaning into them. The brain scrambles them to dump them.

    That book, mainly on PTSD, is absolutely brilliant by the way. I can't recommend it highly enough.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,011
    Scott_xP said:

    2/ There are no plans at this stage to release an underacted version of the Sue Gray report after the police finish their work.

    Her conclusions about what happened at those more serious events being examined by the police do not automatically see the light of day


    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1487160535921614849

    Fuck that.

    To the barricades, Comrades!
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    Scott_xP said:
    Extraordinarily weak from Parris. First, he claims Blunt and Fabricant as "friends;" secondly a boring metaphor about Thames barges turning with the tide, which reads a bit different when you remember Parris nearly lost his life in the Thames because he can't read a set of tide tables. And, substantively, he is asking where are the tories to shame Johnson into resigning, when it is bloody obvious to everyone else that the problem is precisely that Johnson is impervious to shame.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    Dogshit production facility owners out in force tonight ...
  • Johnson: "So whizz kids, with PPEs, what would really distract from the Gray report next week?"

    PPE Spad: "I dunno, maybe fly out to Kiev and face down Putin in the middle of winter?"

    Johnson: "Works for me. But make sure we use the government plane and not some shitty RAF thing."

    On the other hand, Maggie in Paris 1990 was one of the factors that led to her fall- hard to motivate the troops into backing you from abroad.

    But really, it comes back to what it's always come back to. Do enough Conservative MPs have enough of a backbone to tell BoJo to go? And Boris anticipated that when he put all those heads on spikes in autumn 2019.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 41,955
    edited January 2022
    Just to encourage a bit of elevated thought (not my usual mo), watching Winterwatch and a big eff off sea eagle scaring off some corvids from a deer carcass. The Gaelic for sea eagle is Iolaire sùil na gréine – the eagle with the sunlit eye.

    https://twitter.com/peatworrier/status/1486466881603133445?s=21
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,368

    Scott_xP said:

    2/ There are no plans at this stage to release an underacted version of the Sue Gray report after the police finish their work.

    Her conclusions about what happened at those more serious events being examined by the police do not automatically see the light of day


    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1487160535921614849

    Some fucker better leak this or there is no God in the sky.
    Johnson is absolutely taking the p*** out of us all. I can't recall a photograph that has ever made me more annoyed than the one of him thumbs up in the tracked CAT yesterday, when in reality he should be contritely applying to the Chiltern Hundreds.

    Far be it for me to delve into Johnson's mind, but he's thinking to himself "I'm running rings around you dumb f****" isn't he?
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