Police detained Sedef Kabaş at her home at 2am on Saturday, just hours after she aired the comments and then posted them on Twitter to her 900,000 followers.
The alleged insult was a proverb that translates as: “When the ox comes to the palace, he does not become a king. But the palace becomes a barn.”
She was formally arrested after appearing in court.
“This offence will not go unpunished,” Erdoğan said in an interview aired on private television channel NTV.
“It is our duty to protect the respect of my function, of the presidency,” he said. “It has nothing to do with freedom of expression.”…
Let's hope Johnson and Patel don't stay long enough to get us there, then.
I'd like to see a prominent role for Jacob Rees Mogg in the next Tory GE campaign.
I’d like to see a prominent role for Jacob Rees Mogg as the leader of the No campaign for the next Scottish Independence referendum.
He was a big hit in Glenrothes. With his nanny.
Didn't he have to be escorted out of one of tjhe schemes when he forgot to bring her along?
He’s just a straight up prick. He’s one of those people where other public school boys just bang their head on the table knowing that everyone judges them by that sort of cartoon joker.
It’s like he grew up with a poster of the planters peanut man on his wall as a kid and said, I want to look like him but maybe after several years of starvation and illness.
He’s like certain assholes I had to endure at school whose parents said to each other “if we had known what he was like just that one week earlier we could have had that stringy streak of arrogant piss aborted. But it was too late and so they said if he’s going to be bullied for being a streak of piss then we better bolster his self esteem beyond his actual ability so that he will still “do well” despite being absolutely sodding useless to man or beast without such self esteem, financial support and connections.
The sort of tosser at school who was no way near the wealthiest who thought that mannerisms not manners were the way forward and that they were wealthy therefore superior.
Never got any respect from his peers and never attained being a school prefect because everyone - even the worst member of staff - thought they were a useless waste of skin.
Unfortunately he has succeeded in life and will think it’s his own genius rather than a series of unhappy accidents.
Hope he chokes on his tweed ball-gag.
Call me Dr Suspcious if you like, but I do get the feeling you are not altogether an admirer of Mr Rees-Mogg?
Haha. Funnily not. He’s the exemplar of the worst of Britishness/Englishness where people are promoted above their ability based on wealth and education.
I grew up with people like him and people who had more intelligence and wealth than him who have remained humble and human.
His bullshit comment about needing a new election if a change of leader just show him up for being a charlatan whose “intelligence” is a mile wide and an inch deep.
The stupid “jape” he pulled when he lay on the commons benches a while back deserved a shoe-ing from sensible Tories out the back of parliament for being a general twat and giving his team a bad name.
It would be great fun if Rees Mogg was Tory leader though, he would wind up left liberals as much as Corbyn wound up the right, even if he would also probably lose
Alt-right bollocks. "Owning the libs" is what people say about literal Nazis in the US. Keep that filth out of our politics, we don't need it.
You have just proved my point, what fun it would be!! The left going so beserk they even call Rees Mogg a Nazi
I think the left would love Rees Mogg as Tory leader. Would be IDS all over again.
IDS polled better than Hague and no worse than Howard and made gains in local elections.
Rees Mogg also has more charisma and is more intelligent than IDS
Sorry HYUFD you are an enabler. However much I agree with you on aspects of life or politics or however much I disagree I think you are an intelligent man - intelligent enough not to cargo worship an empty vessel with a pleasing sound (to you) because they have “breeding” and that’s worth aspiring to isn’t it….?
People like you who are passionately Conservative should be distancing yourself from vain charlatans like JRM and moulding the party to suit today not 1853.
He’s laughing at you. He will make small talk at a constituency apero but he’s not your friend, you aren’t going to be invited on the shoot and he doesn’t give a damn about you he just wants your effort and support. You are nothing to him and people like him. You aren’t even the batman in the trench to his subaltern. The respect isn’t there.
Remove the scales and realise that Gosford park was a good film not a careers advice video.
Rachael Swindon @Rachael_Swindon · 3h A new socialist party, 100,000 members strong within a week, set up by Jeremy Corbyn, headed up by Laura Pidcock.
#StarmerOut now trending on twitter. The hard left are not happy.
They may yet give Boris an even better than expected week by splitting the Labour Party
#StarmerOut has been trending on Twitter from the hard left ever since #StarmerIn became a reality in April 2020. #BlairOut would also have trended after 1997, except we didn't have Twitter.
In reality, the vast majority of Labour Party members are more than happy that we now have a decent chance of being in power after the next GE.
On musks rocket junk (I’m not trying to be generous at all) a special Moon Parliament has been called for Friday, to decide how to respond. One suggestion I have heard from Mysteron Valley is build a large tennis racket and smash it back to earth.
The comments on Twitter connected to the 'new party' idea are quite telling. The left want to feel good about themselves, and a new political party would simply be a vehicle for this. It has nothing at all to do with getting in to power or beating the tories. All these developments are occuring at a point where Labour have significant poll leads, for the first time in ages.
This does not form a particularly good basis for the birth of a new political party in a FPTP system where it is notoriously difficult for new parties to succeed. The serious people on the left understand this, so it is unlikely to happen.
There's clearly a lot of briefing and counter-briefing going on today. It looks pretty much as if there's easily a large enough group to bring the vote of no confidence, and another perhaps similarly-sized and vocal no-change and back-boris group.
That combination doesn't suggest that bright long-term prospects for the Tories, to me, whatever happens with the Gray report.
I'd like to see a prominent role for Jacob Rees Mogg in the next Tory GE campaign.
I’d like to see a prominent role for Jacob Rees Mogg as the leader of the No campaign for the next Scottish Independence referendum.
He was a big hit in Glenrothes. With his nanny.
Didn't he have to be escorted out of one of tjhe schemes when he forgot to bring her along?
He’s just a straight up prick. He’s one of those people where other public school boys just bang their head on the table knowing that everyone judges them by that sort of cartoon joker.
It’s like he grew up with a poster of the planters peanut man on his wall as a kid and said, I want to look like him but maybe after several years of starvation and illness.
He’s like certain assholes I had to endure at school whose parents said to each other “if we had known what he was like just that one week earlier we could have had that stringy streak of arrogant piss aborted. But it was too late and so they said if he’s going to be bullied for being a streak of piss then we better bolster his self esteem beyond his actual ability so that he will still “do well” despite being absolutely sodding useless to man or beast without such self esteem, financial support and connections.
The sort of tosser at school who was no way near the wealthiest who thought that mannerisms not manners were the way forward and that they were wealthy therefore superior.
Never got any respect from his peers and never attained being a school prefect because everyone - even the worst member of staff - thought they were a useless waste of skin.
Unfortunately he has succeeded in life and will think it’s his own genius rather than a series of unhappy accidents.
Hope he chokes on his tweed ball-gag.
Call me Dr Suspcious if you like, but I do get the feeling you are not altogether an admirer of Mr Rees-Mogg?
Haha. Funnily not. He’s the exemplar of the worst of Britishness/Englishness where people are promoted above their ability based on wealth and education.
I grew up with people like him and people who had more intelligence and wealth than him who have remained humble and human.
His bullshit comment about needing a new election if a change of leader just show him up for being a charlatan whose “intelligence” is a mile wide and an inch deep.
The stupid “jape” he pulled when he lay on the commons benches a while back deserved a shoe-ing from sensible Tories out the back of parliament for being a general twat and giving his team a bad name.
It would be great fun if Rees Mogg was Tory leader though, he would wind up left liberals as much as Corbyn wound up the right, even if he would also probably lose
Alt-right bollocks. "Owning the libs" is what people say about literal Nazis in the US. Keep that filth out of our politics, we don't need it.
You have just proved my point, what fun it would be!! The left going so beserk they even call Rees Mogg a Nazi
I think the left would love Rees Mogg as Tory leader. Would be IDS all over again.
IDS polled better than Hague and no worse than Howard and made gains in local elections.
Rees Mogg also has more charisma and is more intelligent than IDS
Rachael Swindon @Rachael_Swindon · 3h A new socialist party, 100,000 members strong within a week, set up by Jeremy Corbyn, headed up by Laura Pidcock.
#StarmerOut now trending on twitter. The hard left are not happy.
They may yet give Boris an even better than expected week by splitting the Labour Party
#StarmerOut has been trending on Twitter from the hard left ever since #StarmerIn became a reality in April 2020. #BlairOut would also have trended after 1997, except we didn't have Twitter.
In reality, the vast majority of Labour Party members are more than happy that we now have a decent chance of being in power after the next GE.
I disagree. I think you will find many in the party, perhaps up to half its members to some degree, and most the unions don’t forget them or how left wing they are, will be furious with Starmer he couldn’t unite the party together he just excluded the left unlike any other Labour leader (under Corbyn the social democrat wing excluded themselves). They will be spitting teeth it has come to an historic split thanks to Starmer. As pressure on Boris eases, the pressure on Starmer will really mount on him now.
The comments on Twitter connected to the 'new party' idea are quite telling. The left want to feel good about themselves, and a new political party would simply be a vehicle for this. It has nothing at all to do with getting in to power or beating the tories. All these developments are occuring at a point where Labour have significant poll leads, for the first time in ages.
This does not form a particularly good basis for the birth of a new political party in a FPTP system where it is notoriously difficult for new parties to succeed. The serious people on the left understand this, so it is unlikely to happen.
I see the hilariously misnamed "Left Unity" are part of the set up. A friend of mine used to be a member, but even in the reddest bits of Leicester they could only manage 3 figures of votes.
Rachael Swindon @Rachael_Swindon · 3h A new socialist party, 100,000 members strong within a week, set up by Jeremy Corbyn, headed up by Laura Pidcock.
#StarmerOut now trending on twitter. The hard left are not happy.
They may yet give Boris an even better than expected week by splitting the Labour Party
#StarmerOut has been trending on Twitter from the hard left ever since #StarmerIn became a reality in April 2020. #BlairOut would also have trended after 1997, except we didn't have Twitter.
In reality, the vast majority of Labour Party members are more than happy that we now have a decent chance of being in power after the next GE.
I disagree. I think you will find many in the party, perhaps up to half its members to some degree, and most the unions don’t forget them or how left wing they are, will be furious with Starmer he couldn’t unite the party together he just excluded the left unlike any other Labour leader (under Corbyn the social democrat wing excluded themselves). They will be spitting teeth it has come to an historic split thanks to Starmer. As pressure on Boris eases, the pressure on Starmer will really mount on him now.
You're entitled to disagree, of course. But I suspect you're not a Labour Party member. Where's your evidence? Most of us want power, above all; the ideological battles are subservient to that.
Rachael Swindon @Rachael_Swindon · 3h A new socialist party, 100,000 members strong within a week, set up by Jeremy Corbyn, headed up by Laura Pidcock.
#StarmerOut now trending on twitter. The hard left are not happy.
They may yet give Boris an even better than expected week by splitting the Labour Party
#StarmerOut has been trending on Twitter from the hard left ever since #StarmerIn became a reality in April 2020. #BlairOut would also have trended after 1997, except we didn't have Twitter.
In reality, the vast majority of Labour Party members are more than happy that we now have a decent chance of being in power after the next GE.
I disagree. I think you will find many in the party, perhaps up to half its members to some degree, and most the unions don’t forget them or how left wing they are, will be furious with Starmer he couldn’t unite the party together he just excluded the left unlike any other Labour leader (under Corbyn the social democrat wing excluded themselves). They will be spitting teeth it has come to an historic split thanks to Starmer. As pressure on Boris eases, the pressure on Starmer will really mount on him now.
In my experience, a large proportion of its membership had nothing to do with the labour party. They just signed up one day and kept their direct debits rolling until they got around to cancelling them. This is the pool from which the 300,000 members for Corbyn and Pidcocks new party would be largely fished.
Rachael Swindon @Rachael_Swindon · 3h A new socialist party, 100,000 members strong within a week, set up by Jeremy Corbyn, headed up by Laura Pidcock.
#StarmerOut now trending on twitter. The hard left are not happy.
They may yet give Boris an even better than expected week by splitting the Labour Party
#StarmerOut has been trending on Twitter from the hard left ever since #StarmerIn became a reality in April 2020. #BlairOut would also have trended after 1997, except we didn't have Twitter.
In reality, the vast majority of Labour Party members are more than happy that we now have a decent chance of being in power after the next GE.
I disagree. I think you will find many in the party, perhaps up to half its members to some degree, and most the unions don’t forget them or how left wing they are, will be furious with Starmer he couldn’t unite the party together he just excluded the left unlike any other Labour leader (under Corbyn the social democrat wing excluded themselves). They will be spitting teeth it has come to an historic split thanks to Starmer. As pressure on Boris eases, the pressure on Starmer will really mount on him now.
You're entitled to disagree, of course. But I suspect you're not a Labour Party member. Where's your evidence? Most of us want power, above all; the ideological battles are subservient to that.
The key people to watch in this are figures like Rayner, and also even Ed Miliband. As long as they stick with him, his chances aren't bad at all. In the time that he's ceased to follow the apparent advice of Mandelson and others to deliberately and theatrically alienate the left, he's also come on in leaps and bounds in the polls. By comparison a new party has to start from nothing.
Rachael Swindon @Rachael_Swindon · 3h A new socialist party, 100,000 members strong within a week, set up by Jeremy Corbyn, headed up by Laura Pidcock.
#StarmerOut now trending on twitter. The hard left are not happy.
They may yet give Boris an even better than expected week by splitting the Labour Party
#StarmerOut has been trending on Twitter from the hard left ever since #StarmerIn became a reality in April 2020. #BlairOut would also have trended after 1997, except we didn't have Twitter.
In reality, the vast majority of Labour Party members are more than happy that we now have a decent chance of being in power after the next GE.
I disagree. I think you will find many in the party, perhaps up to half its members to some degree, and most the unions don’t forget them or how left wing they are, will be furious with Starmer he couldn’t unite the party together he just excluded the left unlike any other Labour leader (under Corbyn the social democrat wing excluded themselves). They will be spitting teeth it has come to an historic split thanks to Starmer. As pressure on Boris eases, the pressure on Starmer will really mount on him now.
You're entitled to disagree, of course. But I suspect you're not a Labour Party member. Where's your evidence? Most of us want power, above all; the ideological battles are subservient to that.
“ Most of us want power, above all; the ideological battles are subservient to that. “.
I think you have given me all the evidence I need to win this one - if you just want power above all then why elect Corbyn twice and leave him as Loto for 5 years?
My question to you, if I can call you Al, I say up to 50% angry to some degree at Starmer for the historic split hurting Labours chances, are you saying 0%?
Police will ask aides of Boris Johnson named in Sue Gray’s report as having attended parties during lockdown if they are guilty and therefore accept a fine under regulations passed by the government they work for.
Some could be asked in writing to accept or dispute Gray’s findings, while others will have to be interviewed under caution. The investigation is expected to take at least several weeks, with detectives prepared to expand their inquiry if further evidence emerges.
The Metropolitan police will take Gray’s evidence and ask those she finds to have attended gatherings in Downing Street and Whitehall whether they have a reasonable excuse, sources say.
The sources add that, while the lockdown-breaking offences are relatively minor and do not result in a criminal record if paid promptly, any attempts to lie, or to get others to lie, could result in an escalation of Scotland Yard’s inquiry, with perverting the course of justice investigations launched. Suspicion of committing such offences could lead to arrest, full criminal investigation and potentially time in jail if convicted.
One police source said: “Lying could lead to a charge of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice,” and cited the example of drivers facing motoring fines whose lies amounted to more serious offences, such as the former MP Chris Huhne, who ended up in jail.
A second source said “conspiracy to pervert would seem to apply” if concerted attempts were made to thwart the police investigation.
A series of reminders of why silence is so often the right course if one is suspected of something.
If I were one of the junior civil servants asked this by the police, my response would be to ask them to spell out clearly precisely which offence they thought I had committed with specific reference to the relevant regulation. And what the factual basis for their suspicion was.
And then think long and hard before I decided whether to answer and, if so what that answer should be.
As Westminster awaits the Gray report, is the country feeling fury over parties - or are people fatigued by media reports of parties? @lewis_goodall has spent the day inside a focus group in Bury - catch his insightful snapshot of the public mood tonight on Newsnight https://twitter.com/bbcnewsnight/status/1486440141770141698
Sky has being doing that all day from Blackpool and Wolverhampton and it is very mixed
Yeah even the publics fatigued. The rebellions over - apart from TSE battling gamely as last man. Sky’s vox popping in bell weather seats is “still supporting Boris, he has got the big calls right in the bigger picture” today, straight after this crisis in his character, in the mid term.
There’s a big concern now Big G that you are the biggest loser from this. 😕. to have Boris carrying on for months the chances of PM Sunak are diminishing is a depressing prospect. There’s clear signs this week, Boris PMQ Barb at Sunak today, the pro Truss minister resigning with dig at Treasury this week, the knives are now out for the defeated rebels. Team Sunak are battling like mad tonight to limit the damage Boris inflicted at PMQs.
After Thatcher was toppled despite getting half of Tory MPs behind her in 1990, she immediately swung into action to ensure Major beat her assassin Heseltine for the leadership, She then also backed Hague over Clarke in 1997 and IDS over Clarke in 2001.
Thatcher could not give a toss if the Tories lost for a decade after she went, she just wanted revenge on who she saw as the traitors in the party who toppled her after big election victories and to ensure the Tory Party remained her party and loyal to her.
Boris could well do the same if toppled, he is not the type of person to take defeat well despite his outward jovial exterior he would want revenge even if that means he is succeeded by Truss, then Rees Mogg as Tory leader and the Tories are out of power for a decade.
Boris would also try and be as ruthless as Trump in keeping his hold over the party even in defeat
Boris is ousted he will be off and following the money
His political career will be over
Johnson is going nowhere. He has come out swinging. The saboteurs including Sunak will be punished. Johnson is rather a vindictive individual.
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People like you who are passionately Conservative should be distancing yourself from vain charlatans like JRM and moulding the party to suit today not 1853.
He’s laughing at you. He will make small talk at a constituency apero but he’s not your friend, you aren’t going to be invited on the shoot and he doesn’t give a damn about you he just wants your effort and support. You are nothing to him and people like him. You aren’t even the batman in the trench to his subaltern. The respect isn’t there.
Remove the scales and realise that Gosford park was a good film not a careers advice video.
In reality, the vast majority of Labour Party members are more than happy that we now have a decent chance of being in power after the next GE.
I’ll keep you informed. 🌚
This does not form a particularly good basis for the birth of a new political party in a FPTP system where it is notoriously difficult for new parties to succeed. The serious people on the left understand this, so it is unlikely to happen.
That combination doesn't suggest that bright long-term prospects for the Tories, to me, whatever happens with the Gray report.
I think you have given me all the evidence I need to win this one - if you just want power above all then why elect Corbyn twice and leave him as Loto for 5 years?
My question to you, if I can call you Al, I say up to 50% angry to some degree at Starmer for the historic split hurting Labours chances, are you saying 0%?
And then think long and hard before I decided whether to answer and, if so what that answer should be.