Johnson trails Sunak by a staggering18% as “Better PM” – politicalbetting.com
In polling carried out this week Redfield and Willson asked the question – which of Rishi Sunak and Boris Johnson would “be the better PM at the moment”.
What a difference a day makes, I was quite disheartened by the Big Dog Pulls It Off narrative which looked like developing this morning. In fact he is in *much* deeper trouble than I thought.
What a difference a day makes, I was quite disheartened by the Big Dog Pulls It Off narrative which looked like developing this morning. In fact he is in *much* deeper trouble than I thought.
What a difference a day makes, I was quite disheartened by the Big Dog Pulls It Off narrative which looked like developing this morning. In fact he is in *much* deeper trouble than I thought.
Nah it will make no difference
Oh it most certainly will. There is effluent flying everywhere around No. 10 at the moment.
It's only a matter of time before the Liar-in-Chief goes. But with each passing day the wounds cut deeper into the Conservative Party.
It's a good time to be left-of-centre like me Although if you go too far left, people are apparently fuming. Haha.
And as I've mentioned, the longer this goes on the less chance Sunak has of becoming PM.
250/1
Tee hee.
Well I really hope Mike wins just because it's a totally fantastic bet and he has come very close.
But for Labour's sake I really hope Johnson continues to cling on. He's a toxic liability now and the best bit from my point of view is that the tory party is beginning to rip itself apart.
She doesn't appear to be very bright......another bloody graduate of that second rate institution in Oxford.
She reminds me a bit of Katie Hopkins situation where just apologising and not repeating the same claims would have been the end of it, instead keep sticking their foot in it.
And as I've mentioned, the longer this goes on the less chance Sunak has of becoming PM.
He needs to be whipping Gray: report by Monday noon (interim report if you insist) or {reasonable and proper threats which in no way contravene the crminal law, but wave good bye to a job or a peerage under my administration} because if he has any balls at all he is going to move instantly the report comes out because it is dead right/a transparent whitewash.
And as I've mentioned, the longer this goes on the less chance Sunak has of becoming PM.
250/1
Tee hee.
Well I really hope Mike wins just because it's a totally fantastic bet and he has come very close.
But for Labour's sake I really hope Johnson continues to cling on. He's a toxic liability now and the best bit from my point of view is that the tory party is beginning to rip itself apart.
Very close wins no cigars.
Regarding Con Party: OMGOMGOMG. I think all my Christmases came at once.
And as I've mentioned, the longer this goes on the less chance Sunak has of becoming PM.
250/1
Tee hee.
Well I really hope Mike wins just because it's a totally fantastic bet and he has come very close.
But for Labour's sake I really hope Johnson continues to cling on. He's a toxic liability now and the best bit from my point of view is that the tory party is beginning to rip itself apart.
Very close wins no cigars.
Regarding Con Party: OMGOMGOMG. I think all my Christmases came at once.
It does actually. If OGH has got the hang of this betting lark at all, he must be making money on the bet irrespective.
And as I've mentioned, the longer this goes on the less chance Sunak has of becoming PM.
250/1
Tee hee.
Well I really hope Mike wins just because it's a totally fantastic bet and he has come very close.
But for Labour's sake I really hope Johnson continues to cling on. He's a toxic liability now and the best bit from my point of view is that the tory party is beginning to rip itself apart.
Very close wins no cigars.
Regarding Con Party: OMGOMGOMG. I think all my Christmases came at once.
It does actually. If OGH has got the hang of this betting lark at all, he must be making money on the bet irrespective.
And as I've mentioned, the longer this goes on the less chance Sunak has of becoming PM.
250/1
Tee hee.
Well I really hope Mike wins just because it's a totally fantastic bet and he has come very close.
But for Labour's sake I really hope Johnson continues to cling on. He's a toxic liability now and the best bit from my point of view is that the tory party is beginning to rip itself apart.
Very close wins no cigars.
Regarding Con Party: OMGOMGOMG. I think all my Christmases came at once.
It does actually. If OGH has got the hang of this betting lark at all, he must be making money on the bet irrespective.
People in glass houses! Green campaigner lectures GMB viewers on damage that conservatories are doing to the planet - while sitting in her conservatory
People in glass houses! Green campaigner lectures GMB viewers on damage that conservatories are doing to the planet - while sitting in her conservatory
And as I've mentioned, the longer this goes on the less chance Sunak has of becoming PM.
250/1
Tee hee.
Well I really hope Mike wins just because it's a totally fantastic bet and he has come very close.
But for Labour's sake I really hope Johnson continues to cling on. He's a toxic liability now and the best bit from my point of view is that the tory party is beginning to rip itself apart.
Very close wins no cigars.
Regarding Con Party: OMGOMGOMG. I think all my Christmases came at once.
It does actually. If OGH has got the hang of this betting lark at all, he must be making money on the bet irrespective.
If he trades now. Over to you Mike…
You can lay Sunak at 2.72 tonight. If you have backed at 251 there's cigars either way in that.
What a difference a day makes, I was quite disheartened by the Big Dog Pulls It Off narrative which looked like developing this morning. In fact he is in *much* deeper trouble than I thought.
*BREAKING
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And as I've mentioned, the longer this goes on the less chance Sunak has of becoming PM.
250/1
Tee hee.
Well I really hope Mike wins just because it's a totally fantastic bet and he has come very close.
But for Labour's sake I really hope Johnson continues to cling on. He's a toxic liability now and the best bit from my point of view is that the tory party is beginning to rip itself apart.
Very close wins no cigars.
Regarding Con Party: OMGOMGOMG. I think all my Christmases came at once.
It does actually. If OGH has got the hang of this betting lark at all, he must be making money on the bet irrespective.
It was a sportsbook bet I think so, no, he won't.
(Well unless they offer a cashout)
Um, you can lay back elsewhere than where you placed the bet
ETA but make sure the market rules are back to back
If anyone thinks that selling a friendly country out to be annexed by an expansionist dictatorship is in itself cost free, I have a book on twentieth century history you could borrow.
As opposed to starting World War 3 with Russia over a country not even in NATO with far right elements in it stirring up trouble?
We have obligations to defend NATO members in Europe from Russia, not beyond
It's in our own interests to constrain Russia's aggressive expansion. Dictatorships are really bad for business and they tend to create waves of refugees that could further destabilise our region.
Plus, there's the minor point that it's the Right Thing To Do. But I don't think that's an argument that's likely to connect with you, so feel free to focus just on paragraph 1.
Not if it means WW3.
Ukraine is an ex part of the USSR and Putin's Russia sees them as Nationalist separatists. Yes ideally Russia would leave it be but Ukraine is not a NATO member so therefore we are not going to start WW3 to defend it
For FUDHY the Russia-Ukraine conflict is just a proxy to bash the jocks.
Ditto Castile-Catalonia.
Ditto Loyalist America-Quebec.
Ditto Chinese Empire-Taiwan.
etc etc etc
Might is Right as far as “real” Tories are concerned.
And as I've mentioned, the longer this goes on the less chance Sunak has of becoming PM.
250/1
Tee hee.
Well I really hope Mike wins just because it's a totally fantastic bet and he has come very close.
But for Labour's sake I really hope Johnson continues to cling on. He's a toxic liability now and the best bit from my point of view is that the tory party is beginning to rip itself apart.
Very close wins no cigars.
Regarding Con Party: OMGOMGOMG. I think all my Christmases came at once.
It does actually. If OGH has got the hang of this betting lark at all, he must be making money on the bet irrespective.
It was a sportsbook bet I think so, no, he won't.
(Well unless they offer a cashout)
Um, you can lay back elsewhere than where you placed the bet
I don't understand that. If he had a fixed price 250/1 on, say, ladbrokes sportsbook how do you go about laying it?
I get it obviously with exchange betting and spread betting but not with a fixed price sportsbook bet. Totally and genuinely confused.
Re. the Ukraine I'm afraid that, tragic though an invasion would be and though BoJo (if he's still in office) may try otherwise, it's not going to cause more than mild irritation and tut-tutting to most Brits. Unless Putin presses the nuclear button if they start losing of course.
There's no oil involved. It's bad but any UK leader who begins committing too much to the defence of Ukraine is absolutely desperate. Oh wait ...
And as I've mentioned, the longer this goes on the less chance Sunak has of becoming PM.
250/1
Tee hee.
Well I really hope Mike wins just because it's a totally fantastic bet and he has come very close.
But for Labour's sake I really hope Johnson continues to cling on. He's a toxic liability now and the best bit from my point of view is that the tory party is beginning to rip itself apart.
It’s not a bet that can fall foul of an interim PM is it Mike?
"Stanley Johnson was in my local in Queens Park on Monday night, drinking a half of lager in an Estrella glass and eating cheese crisps. I mentioned to someone that it must be tense in the Johnson family at the moment, and was reminded of an incident here last summer when someone approached Stanley in the same pub to tell him that his son was a c*nt. To which Johnson Senior wearily replied, 'Yes, I know.'"
And as I've mentioned, the longer this goes on the less chance Sunak has of becoming PM.
250/1
Tee hee.
Well I really hope Mike wins just because it's a totally fantastic bet and he has come very close.
But for Labour's sake I really hope Johnson continues to cling on. He's a toxic liability now and the best bit from my point of view is that the tory party is beginning to rip itself apart.
Very close wins no cigars.
Regarding Con Party: OMGOMGOMG. I think all my Christmases came at once.
It does actually. If OGH has got the hang of this betting lark at all, he must be making money on the bet irrespective.
It was a sportsbook bet I think so, no, he won't.
(Well unless they offer a cashout)
Um, you can lay back elsewhere than where you placed the bet
I don't understand that. If he had a fixed price 250/1 on, say, ladbrokes sportsbook how do you go about laying it?
I get it obviously with exchange betting and spread betting but not with a fixed price sportsbook bet. Totally and genuinely confused.
Sunak wins, he wins 20 x 250 = 5,000
Lay Sunak at 2.8 which say is 2/1 for simplicity, accepting a bet of 1,000
Sunak wins you win 3,000 Sunak loses you win 1,000 or rather 980
"Stanley Johnson was in my local in Queens Park on Monday night, drinking a half of lager in an Estrella glass and eating cheese crisps. I mentioned to someone that it must be tense in the Johnson family at the moment, and was reminded of an incident here last summer when someone approached Stanley in the same pub to tell him that his son was a c*nt. To which Johnson Senior wearily replied, 'Yes, I know.'"
Brilliant
I don't think Jo Johnson thinks a lot of his brother either.
And as I've mentioned, the longer this goes on the less chance Sunak has of becoming PM.
250/1
Tee hee.
Well I really hope Mike wins just because it's a totally fantastic bet and he has come very close.
But for Labour's sake I really hope Johnson continues to cling on. He's a toxic liability now and the best bit from my point of view is that the tory party is beginning to rip itself apart.
Very close wins no cigars.
Regarding Con Party: OMGOMGOMG. I think all my Christmases came at once.
It does actually. If OGH has got the hang of this betting lark at all, he must be making money on the bet irrespective.
It was a sportsbook bet I think so, no, he won't.
(Well unless they offer a cashout)
Um, you can lay back elsewhere than where you placed the bet
I don't understand that. If he had a fixed price 250/1 on, say, ladbrokes sportsbook how do you go about laying it?
I get it obviously with exchange betting and spread betting but not with a fixed price sportsbook bet. Totally and genuinely confused.
Sunak wins, he wins 20 x 250 = 5,000
Lay Sunak at 2.8 which say is 2/1 for simplicity, accepting a bet of 1,000
Sunak wins you win 3,000 Sunak loses you win 1,000 or rather 980
So basically you place a bet against yourself to cover both eventualities. Isn't that arbing? I thought that wasn't supposed to be kosher?
If anyone thinks that selling a friendly country out to be annexed by an expansionist dictatorship is in itself cost free, I have a book on twentieth century history you could borrow.
As opposed to starting World War 3 with Russia over a country not even in NATO with far right elements in it stirring up trouble?
We have obligations to defend NATO members in Europe from Russia, not beyond
It's in our own interests to constrain Russia's aggressive expansion. Dictatorships are really bad for business and they tend to create waves of refugees that could further destabilise our region.
Plus, there's the minor point that it's the Right Thing To Do. But I don't think that's an argument that's likely to connect with you, so feel free to focus just on paragraph 1.
Not if it means WW3.
Ukraine is an ex part of the USSR and Putin's Russia sees them as Nationalist separatists. Yes ideally Russia would leave it be but Ukraine is not a NATO member so therefore we are not going to start WW3 to defend it
For FUDHY the Russia-Ukraine conflict is just a proxy to bash the jocks.
Ditto Castile-Catalonia.
Ditto Loyalist America-Quebec.
Ditto Chinese Empire-Taiwan.
etc etc etc
Might is Right as far as “real” Tories are concerned.
Yebbut real tories don't believe in EVEL or an English Parliament.Or in tax increases for hardworking people, the weakening of Britain's defences, etc. We'd get no real Tories at that rate. Shall we permit an impurity level of, say, 50%?
And as I've mentioned, the longer this goes on the less chance Sunak has of becoming PM.
250/1
Tee hee.
Well I really hope Mike wins just because it's a totally fantastic bet and he has come very close.
But for Labour's sake I really hope Johnson continues to cling on. He's a toxic liability now and the best bit from my point of view is that the tory party is beginning to rip itself apart.
Very close wins no cigars.
Regarding Con Party: OMGOMGOMG. I think all my Christmases came at once.
It does actually. If OGH has got the hang of this betting lark at all, he must be making money on the bet irrespective.
It was a sportsbook bet I think so, no, he won't.
(Well unless they offer a cashout)
Um, you can lay back elsewhere than where you placed the bet
I don't understand that. If he had a fixed price 250/1 on, say, ladbrokes sportsbook how do you go about laying it?
I get it obviously with exchange betting and spread betting but not with a fixed price sportsbook bet. Totally and genuinely confused.
Sunak wins, he wins 20 x 250 = 5,000
Lay Sunak at 2.8 which say is 2/1 for simplicity, accepting a bet of 1,000
Sunak wins you win 3,000 Sunak loses you win 1,000 or rather 980
So basically you place a bet against yourself to cover both eventualities. Isn't that arbing? I thought that wasn't supposed to be kosher?
Arbitrage is exploiting different prices at the same time. This is exploiting different prices at different times, so no. And you don't get arbs of x100 magnitude
I plugged the figures into flavible and get the following on current boundaries:
Lab 57 (+16) CON 15 (-17) LD 2 (+1) Spkr 1 (-)
Interestingly William Wragg is projected to narrowly hold Hazel Grove on a uniform swing but Graham Brady loses his seat by 4% to Labour.
Hazel Grove was LD from 1997 to 2015 and was Remain so Wragg would also almost certainly lose given tactical voting. What a shame!
Hazel Grove actually voted 52% leave unlike 57% remain Cheadle so I think it'll be a fair bit trickier for the Lib Dems to gain than Cheadle as it has trended strongly towards the Tories (and is more semi rural in parts) although the Lib Dems will probably have the resources to bombard both seats especially given their candidate is standing down as a councillor. Boundary changes are however bad for the Tories in Hazel Grove.
Q: What's the difference between a Prince Albert and a Prince Andrew?
A: The piercing
Old-school American version:
Q. What's the diff between Prince Albert and Prince Andrew"
A. Folks want Prince Albert OUT of the can, but they want Prince Andrew IN the can.
For puzzled Brits and American whippersnappers, see this from Wiki:
"Prince Albert in a can" The brand is the basis of a practical joke, usually made in the form of a prank call. The prankster typically calls a store and asks if they have "Prince Albert in a can". When the unsuspecting clerk responds, "yes", (because the tobacco is typically packaged in a can, though other forms of packaging also existed), the caller follows up with, "well, you'd better let him out!" or similar.[6][7]
There's some similarity between this and some of the polling we saw in 2006/07 regarding Blair and Brown.
Only up to a point. I can't imagine Rishi Sunak throwing items of stationery at his staff when he gets cross, for example.
More broadly, if the Tories put him into bat and inflationary pressure turns out to be a spike rather than a trend, I think he has a reasonable chance of winning the next election.
We've been slogging through the misery of Covid seemingly for so long that it's very easy to forget that there may well be more time left to go between now and the next election than has elapsed between the last election and now - a political age, in which all manner of things could happen.
She doesn't appear to be very bright......another bloody graduate of that second rate institution in Oxford.
She reminds me a bit of Katie Hopkins situation where just apologising and not repeating the same claims would have been the end of it, instead keep sticking their foot in it.
She seems to wishcast.
I remember she deleted a tweet about a Tory donor who had to show source of funds opening up a new bank account like it was a smoking gun.
I mean that's a standard procedure for every bank in the UK when someone opens an account and transfers a large amount in, and I mean anything about £20,000 and above can get flagged up.
Once the VONC is called, surely events will be on a roll. The Tories can all see how Johnson is dragging them all down with him, and if they don’t cut out the cancer now, they’ll be looking at years of Labour (led?) government to come.
"Stanley Johnson was in my local in Queens Park on Monday night, drinking a half of lager in an Estrella glass and eating cheese crisps. I mentioned to someone that it must be tense in the Johnson family at the moment, and was reminded of an incident here last summer when someone approached Stanley in the same pub to tell him that his son was a c*nt. To which Johnson Senior wearily replied, 'Yes, I know.'"
Brilliant
I don't think Jo Johnson thinks a lot of his brother either.
Surprised the answer was not "Yes, I know. But which one are you talking about?"
The key point though is 2019 Tory voters still prefer Johnson over Sunak.
The fact Sunak leads Starmer by just 1% as preferred PM, also means even Sunak would fail to win another Conservative majority at the next general election. All Sunak could hope to do would be to win most seats in a hung parliament but even then Starmer would likely become PM with SNP and LD support
If this doesn't confirm Prince Andrew is a wrong 'un then I don't know what will?
As recently as 2015, Prince Andrew's ringtone was Clocks by Coldplay.
Only way it could have been worse is if it was a Radiohead track?
If you are quoting all of the other PB I'll get this bit in first
>> Horsing around << A fitting honour for Andrew
The theories that the Queen is forever trying to silently communicate her disapproval of Boris Johnson with her choice of brooch, or serving some masterful clapback to the Sussexes by drinking a particular blend of tea, don't cut much ice with us – but we have to admit we did enjoy this recent royal update.
The same week that the Queen stripped Andrew of all his military titles, affiliations and the HRH honorific, the Daily Mail reported that she'd just registered a new racehorse... and called it "Interview".
Q: What's the difference between a Prince Albert and a Prince Andrew?
A: The piercing
Old-school American version:
Q. What's the diff between Prince Albert and Prince Andrew"
A. Folks want Prince Albert OUT of the can, but they want Prince Andrew IN the can.
For puzzled Brits and American whippersnappers, see this from Wiki:
"Prince Albert in a can" The brand is the basis of a practical joke, usually made in the form of a prank call. The prankster typically calls a store and asks if they have "Prince Albert in a can". When the unsuspecting clerk responds, "yes", (because the tobacco is typically packaged in a can, though other forms of packaging also existed), the caller follows up with, "well, you'd better let him out!" or similar.[6][7]
My wife was at Amherst in Prince Albert's year. She told me he did a skit in the student show where he burst out of a can ...
This year is their 40th graduation anniversary* meet up. In think he's invited them to hold it chez-lui.
The key point though is 2019 Tory voters still prefer Johnson over Sunak.
The fact Sunak leads Starmer by just 1% as preferred PM, also means even Sunak would fail to win another Conservative majority at the next general election. All Sunak could hope to do would be to win most seats in a hung parliament but even then Starmer would likely become PM with SNP and LD support
If I may be so bold, you perhaps accord a little too much importance to opinion polls - especially opinion polls conducted now as accurate predictors of the state of play in 2024.
The notion that the Conservative position might improve under a new leader, or that Labour might encounter some fresh bumps in the road between then and now, isn't even considered.
Even if some polling conducted now represents anything like an accurate reflection of current public opinion, this does not, of course, imply that public opinion will remain pickled in aspic for over two years.
I plugged the figures into flavible and get the following on current boundaries:
Lab 57 (+16) CON 15 (-17) LD 2 (+1) Spkr 1 (-)
Interestingly William Wragg is projected to narrowly hold Hazel Grove on a uniform swing but Graham Brady loses his seat by 4% to Labour.
Hazel Grove was LD from 1997 to 2015 and was Remain so Wragg would also almost certainly lose given tactical voting. What a shame!
Hazel Grove actually voted 52% leave unlike 57% remain Cheadle so I think it'll be a fair bit trickier for the Lib Dems to gain than Cheadle as it has trended strongly towards the Tories (and is more semi rural in parts) although the Lib Dems will probably have the resources to bombard both seats especially given their candidate is standing down as a councillor. Boundary changes are however bad for the Tories in Hazel Grove.
The most startling thing about the EC projection on poll someone posted last night (I know, it's not real) was just how much of Cheshire as currently constituted fell red - Tatton, Congleton, Macclesfield, Eddisbury and, of course, the townier seats. Can't think there was much of the county left blue.
"[Johnson] may decide to walk away from No 10 immediately, presumably leaving Dominic Raab as temporary prime minister and boosting the justice secretary’s otherwise slim chances."
"Stanley Johnson was in my local in Queens Park on Monday night, drinking a half of lager in an Estrella glass and eating cheese crisps. I mentioned to someone that it must be tense in the Johnson family at the moment, and was reminded of an incident here last summer when someone approached Stanley in the same pub to tell him that his son was a c*nt. To which Johnson Senior wearily replied, 'Yes, I know.'"
"drinking a half of lager in an Estrella glass and eating cheese crisps"
Let's add lots of extraneous detail so my made up story sounds more plausible.
Late to the party, but on whipping (in politics, of course). If Wragg is right, it stinks, but Whips have often used nefarious means to get their way; although threats to local funding seem beyond the pale.
But my view is that this is part of a wider culture in the current government: not blackmail, but bullying. And the bullying starts at the top. I think Boris is a bully. Cummings is/was a bully. Patel is a known bully. There will be others. They bully civil servants, driving quite a few out of the job. They bully SPADs that they turn against. And, following their lead, the Whips bully MPs with a nod and a wink from No. 10 - most notably over Paterson, and now over the PM's future. I suspect this bullying is alienating quite a few MPs, and they're getting sick of it - except for the sycophants sent out to defend the PM, of course.
So, my theory is that the bullying culture emanating from No. 10 is much more damaging to good governance than the (alleged) drinking culture.
I don't have a lot of time for Rishi - he's the plutocracy H Clinton warned us of.
Asking for a friend, can the children/grandchildren of immigrants to this country be considered plutocrats?
Rishi is a Winchester and Oxford educated, ex Goldman Sachs banker and son in law of a billionaire. He would be arguably the most elitist PM we have had since WW2.
Not that there is anything wrong with that of course
Late to the party, but on whipping (in politics, of course). If Wragg is right, it stinks, but Whips have often used nefarious means to get their way; although threats to local funding seem beyond the pale.
But my view is that this is part of a wider culture in the current government: not blackmail, but bullying. And the bullying starts at the top. I think Boris is a bully. Cummings is/was a bully. Patel is a known bully. There will be others. They bully civil servants, driving quite a few out of the job. They bully SPADs that they turn against. And, following their lead, the Whips bully MPs with a nod and a wink from No. 10 - most notably over Paterson, and now over the PM's future. I suspect this bullying is alienating quite a few MPs, and they're getting sick of it.
So, my theory is that the bullying culture emanating from No. 10 is much more damaging to good governance than the (alleged) drinking culture.
Blah Blah
Blackmail has been part of the Whipping playbook for decades - nobody complained when it was, to pick a random example - Blair.
I plugged the figures into flavible and get the following on current boundaries:
Lab 57 (+16) CON 15 (-17) LD 2 (+1) Spkr 1 (-)
Interestingly William Wragg is projected to narrowly hold Hazel Grove on a uniform swing but Graham Brady loses his seat by 4% to Labour.
Hazel Grove was LD from 1997 to 2015 and was Remain so Wragg would also almost certainly lose given tactical voting. What a shame!
Hazel Grove actually voted 52% leave unlike 57% remain Cheadle so I think it'll be a fair bit trickier for the Lib Dems to gain than Cheadle as it has trended strongly towards the Tories (and is more semi rural in parts) although the Lib Dems will probably have the resources to bombard both seats especially given their candidate is standing down as a councillor. Boundary changes are however bad for the Tories in Hazel Grove.
The most startling thing about the EC projection on poll someone posted last night (I know, it's not real) was just how much of Cheshire as currently constituted fell red - Tatton, Congleton, Macclesfield, Eddisbury and, of course, the townier seats. Can't think there was much of the county left blue.
Given it also projected Kensington and Cities of London and Westminster going red the only safe Tory seats left anywhere would be Leave seats with Tory voteshares of 60%+ in 2019.
Late to the party, but on whipping (in politics, of course). If Wragg is right, it stinks, but Whips have often used nefarious means to get their way; although threats to local funding seem beyond the pale.
But my view is that this is part of a wider culture in the current government: not blackmail, but bullying. And the bullying starts at the top. I think Boris is a bully. Cummings is/was a bully. Patel is a known bully. There will be others. They bully civil servants, driving quite a few out of the job. They bully SPADs that they turn against. And, following their lead, the Whips bully MPs with a nod and a wink from No. 10 - most notably over Paterson, and now over the PM's future. I suspect this bullying is alienating quite a few MPs, and they're getting sick of it.
So, my theory is that the bullying culture emanating from No. 10 is much more damaging to good governance than the (alleged) drinking culture.
Blah Blah
Blackmail has been part of the Whipping playbook for decades - nobody complained when it was, to pick a random example - Blair.
Late to the party, but on whipping (in politics, of course). If Wragg is right, it stinks, but Whips have often used nefarious means to get their way; although threats to local funding seem beyond the pale.
But my view is that this is part of a wider culture in the current government: not blackmail, but bullying. And the bullying starts at the top. I think Boris is a bully. Cummings is/was a bully. Patel is a known bully. There will be others. They bully civil servants, driving quite a few out of the job. They bully SPADs that they turn against. And, following their lead, the Whips bully MPs with a nod and a wink from No. 10 - most notably over Paterson, and now over the PM's future. I suspect this bullying is alienating quite a few MPs, and they're getting sick of it.
So, my theory is that the bullying culture emanating from No. 10 is much more damaging to good governance than the (alleged) drinking culture.
Blah Blah
Blackmail has been part of the Whipping playbook for decades - nobody complained when it was, to pick a random example - Blair.
Morality doesn't get sleazier than that.
"Child abuse happened under Blair, always ha, always will, so what's your point?"
Late to the party, but on whipping (in politics, of course). If Wragg is right, it stinks, but Whips have often used nefarious means to get their way; although threats to local funding seem beyond the pale.
But my view is that this is part of a wider culture in the current government: not blackmail, but bullying. And the bullying starts at the top. I think Boris is a bully. Cummings is/was a bully. Patel is a known bully. There will be others. They bully civil servants, driving quite a few out of the job. They bully SPADs that they turn against. And, following their lead, the Whips bully MPs with a nod and a wink from No. 10 - most notably over Paterson, and now over the PM's future. I suspect this bullying is alienating quite a few MPs, and they're getting sick of it.
So, my theory is that the bullying culture emanating from No. 10 is much more damaging to good governance than the (alleged) drinking culture.
Blah Blah
Blackmail has been part of the Whipping playbook for decades - nobody complained when it was, to pick a random example - Blair.
Morality doesn't get sleazier than that.
"Child abuse happened under Blair, always ha, always will, so what's your point?"
Late to the party, but on whipping (in politics, of course). If Wragg is right, it stinks, but Whips have often used nefarious means to get their way; although threats to local funding seem beyond the pale.
But my view is that this is part of a wider culture in the current government: not blackmail, but bullying. And the bullying starts at the top. I think Boris is a bully. Cummings is/was a bully. Patel is a known bully. There will be others. They bully civil servants, driving quite a few out of the job. They bully SPADs that they turn against. And, following their lead, the Whips bully MPs with a nod and a wink from No. 10 - most notably over Paterson, and now over the PM's future. I suspect this bullying is alienating quite a few MPs, and they're getting sick of it.
So, my theory is that the bullying culture emanating from No. 10 is much more damaging to good governance than the (alleged) drinking culture.
Blah Blah
Blackmail has been part of the Whipping playbook for decades - nobody complained when it was, to pick a random example - Blair.
Morality doesn't get sleazier than that.
"Child abuse happened under Blair, always ha, always will, so what's your point?"
I don't have a lot of time for Rishi - he's the plutocracy H Clinton warned us of.
Asking for a friend, can the children/grandchildren of immigrants to this country be considered plutocrats?
Rishi is a Winchester and Oxford educated, ex Goldman Sachs banker and son in law of a billionaire. He would be arguably the most elitist PM we have had since WW2.
Not that there is anything wrong with that of course
Late to the party, but on whipping (in politics, of course). If Wragg is right, it stinks, but Whips have often used nefarious means to get their way; although threats to local funding seem beyond the pale.
But my view is that this is part of a wider culture in the current government: not blackmail, but bullying. And the bullying starts at the top. I think Boris is a bully. Cummings is/was a bully. Patel is a known bully. There will be others. They bully civil servants, driving quite a few out of the job. They bully SPADs that they turn against. And, following their lead, the Whips bully MPs with a nod and a wink from No. 10 - most notably over Paterson, and now over the PM's future. I suspect this bullying is alienating quite a few MPs, and they're getting sick of it.
So, my theory is that the bullying culture emanating from No. 10 is much more damaging to good governance than the (alleged) drinking culture.
Blah Blah
Blackmail has been part of the Whipping playbook for decades - nobody complained when it was, to pick a random example - Blair.
Morality doesn't get sleazier than that.
"Child abuse happened under Blair, always ha, always will, so what's your point?"
Late to the party, but on whipping (in politics, of course). If Wragg is right, it stinks, but Whips have often used nefarious means to get their way; although threats to local funding seem beyond the pale.
But my view is that this is part of a wider culture in the current government: not blackmail, but bullying. And the bullying starts at the top. I think Boris is a bully. Cummings is/was a bully. Patel is a known bully. There will be others. They bully civil servants, driving quite a few out of the job. They bully SPADs that they turn against. And, following their lead, the Whips bully MPs with a nod and a wink from No. 10 - most notably over Paterson, and now over the PM's future. I suspect this bullying is alienating quite a few MPs, and they're getting sick of it.
So, my theory is that the bullying culture emanating from No. 10 is much more damaging to good governance than the (alleged) drinking culture.
Blah Blah
Blackmail has been part of the Whipping playbook for decades - nobody complained when it was, to pick a random example - Blair.
Morality doesn't get sleazier than that.
"Child abuse happened under Blair, always ha, always will, so what's your point?"
Sleazyness don't get much worse than Blair.
Well make your mind up, he was a "random example" 5 minutes ago. Which is it?
I don't have a lot of time for Rishi - he's the plutocracy H Clinton warned us of.
Asking for a friend, can the children/grandchildren of immigrants to this country be considered plutocrats?
Rishi is a Winchester and Oxford educated, ex Goldman Sachs banker and son in law of a billionaire. He would be arguably the most elitist PM we have had since WW2.
Not that there is anything wrong with that of course
Erm, Home?
Not as rich as Sunak. Both had elite educations.
If you are going old elite then Home given he was from an aristocratic family, new elite Sunak
Late to the party, but on whipping (in politics, of course). If Wragg is right, it stinks, but Whips have often used nefarious means to get their way; although threats to local funding seem beyond the pale.
But my view is that this is part of a wider culture in the current government: not blackmail, but bullying. And the bullying starts at the top. I think Boris is a bully. Cummings is/was a bully. Patel is a known bully. There will be others. They bully civil servants, driving quite a few out of the job. They bully SPADs that they turn against. And, following their lead, the Whips bully MPs with a nod and a wink from No. 10 - most notably over Paterson, and now over the PM's future. I suspect this bullying is alienating quite a few MPs, and they're getting sick of it.
So, my theory is that the bullying culture emanating from No. 10 is much more damaging to good governance than the (alleged) drinking culture.
Blah Blah
Blackmail has been part of the Whipping playbook for decades - nobody complained when it was, to pick a random example - Blair.
You're not a very thorough reader, are you? I cover that in my first paragraph, using the word 'nefarious'.
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Starmer is ok, but when you listen to the ultimate snake-oil salesman you realise you’re in the presence of a master.
Can’t see daft Charlie or baldie Wullie ever giving the Oaf a knighthood.
And as I've mentioned, the longer this goes on the less chance Sunak has of becoming PM.
It's only a matter of time before the Liar-in-Chief goes. But with each passing day the wounds cut deeper into the Conservative Party.
It's a good time to be left-of-centre like me Although if you go too far left, people are apparently fuming. Haha.
Tee hee.
But for Labour's sake I really hope Johnson continues to cling on. He's a toxic liability now and the best bit from my point of view is that the tory party is beginning to rip itself apart.
I’ve never been a trendsetter before.
Only took eighteen years.
She reminds me a bit of Katie Hopkins situation where just apologising and not repeating the same claims would have been the end of it, instead keep sticking their foot in it.
Regarding Con Party: OMGOMGOMG. I think all my Christmases came at once.
The United Kingdom of Whatever.
(Well unless they offer a cashout)
People in glass houses! Green campaigner lectures GMB viewers on damage that conservatories are doing to the planet - while sitting in her conservatory
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10421987/Green-campaigner-lectures-GMB-viewers-damage-conservatories-sitting-hers.html
Really though it isn't so hard to actually think.
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Guess what, the sample size is 9,602. This MRP strategy allowed them predict the winners of 95% of the seats at GE2019.
ETA but make sure the market rules are back to back
A: The piercing
Ditto Castile-Catalonia.
Ditto Loyalist America-Quebec.
Ditto Chinese Empire-Taiwan.
etc etc etc
Might is Right as far as “real” Tories are concerned.
I get it obviously with exchange betting and spread betting but not with a fixed price sportsbook bet. Totally and genuinely confused.
There's some similarity between this and some of the polling we saw in 2006/07 regarding Blair and Brown.
https://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2021/02/28/polling-klaxon-why-you-shouldnt-read-too-much-into-a-small-subsample-see-this-scottish-subsample-as-the-perfect-example/
There's no oil involved. It's bad but any UK leader who begins committing too much to the defence of Ukraine is absolutely desperate. Oh wait ...
"Stanley Johnson was in my local in Queens Park on Monday night, drinking a half of lager in an Estrella glass and eating cheese crisps. I mentioned to someone that it must be tense in the Johnson family at the moment, and was reminded of an incident here last summer when someone approached Stanley in the same pub to tell him that his son was a c*nt. To which Johnson Senior wearily replied, 'Yes, I know.'"
Lay Sunak at 2.8 which say is 2/1 for simplicity, accepting a bet of 1,000
Sunak wins you win 3,000
Sunak loses you win 1,000 or rather 980
ETA if you can find the liquidity for the lay
I don't think Jo Johnson thinks a lot of his brother either.
However, think that GB's biggest problem, was the Peter Principle. Did for him, as it did Sir Anthony Eden.
How Sunak performs viz-a-viz the dread PP, if (or is it when?) push comes to shove (for Boris), is an open question.
A Prince Albert is a piercing of the penis, in which a metal ring is pierced through the skin at the tip of the penis.
The ring begins almost straight to pierce through the penis, and is then bent with pliers to create a rounded ring shape.
https://metro.co.uk/2018/04/27/prince-albert-piercing-7502229/
So what’s a Prince Andrew piercing then, to have a difference between the two, so there’s a working joke?
Is a Prince Andrew piercing like when Madonna had her brain pierced, so she could have a stud in her head all night long?
Q. What's the diff between Prince Albert and Prince Andrew"
A. Folks want Prince Albert OUT of the can, but they want Prince Andrew IN the can.
For puzzled Brits and American whippersnappers, see this from Wiki:
"Prince Albert in a can"
The brand is the basis of a practical joke, usually made in the form of a prank call. The prankster typically calls a store and asks if they have "Prince Albert in a can". When the unsuspecting clerk responds, "yes", (because the tobacco is typically packaged in a can, though other forms of packaging also existed), the caller follows up with, "well, you'd better let him out!" or similar.[6][7]
More broadly, if the Tories put him into bat and inflationary pressure turns out to be a spike rather than a trend, I think he has a reasonable chance of winning the next election.
We've been slogging through the misery of Covid seemingly for so long that it's very easy to forget that there may well be more time left to go between now and the next election than has elapsed between the last election and now - a political age, in which all manner of things could happen.
Crucially Johnson has failed to assure MPs there are no more revelations to come.
The bid to oust him has only just begun. https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/conservatives/2022/01/the-plot-to-oust-boris-johnson-has-not-been-foiled-it-has-only-just-begun
I remember she deleted a tweet about a Tory donor who had to show source of funds opening up a new bank account like it was a smoking gun.
I mean that's a standard procedure for every bank in the UK when someone opens an account and transfers a large amount in, and I mean anything about £20,000 and above can get flagged up.
And don't even ask about docking.
The fact Sunak leads Starmer by just 1% as preferred PM, also means even Sunak would fail to win another Conservative majority at the next general election. All Sunak could hope to do would be to win most seats in a hung parliament but even then Starmer would likely become PM with SNP and LD support
As recently as 2015, Prince Andrew's ringtone was Clocks by Coldplay.
Only way it could have been worse is if it was a Radiohead track?
what a shame
Jim Pickard
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https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1484170628995301383
>> Horsing around <<
A fitting honour for Andrew
The theories that the Queen is forever trying to silently communicate her disapproval of Boris Johnson with her choice of brooch, or serving some masterful clapback to the Sussexes by drinking a particular blend of tea, don't cut much ice with us – but we have to admit we did enjoy this recent royal update.
The same week that the Queen stripped Andrew of all his military titles, affiliations and the HRH honorific, the Daily Mail reported that she'd just registered a new racehorse... and called it "Interview".
This year is their 40th graduation anniversary* meet up. In think he's invited them to hold it chez-lui.
* delayed one year due to COVID.
The notion that the Conservative position might improve under a new leader, or that Labour might encounter some fresh bumps in the road between then and now, isn't even considered.
Even if some polling conducted now represents anything like an accurate reflection of current public opinion, this does not, of course, imply that public opinion will remain pickled in aspic for over two years.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/19/boris-johnson-tory-mps-party-conservatives-populists
As I have posted before, I don't think the Palace would accept this, if Raab intends to be a candidate in leadership.
They will seek a caretaker who is not and clearly not a candidate.
Let's add lots of extraneous detail so my made up story sounds more plausible.
(Not that you made it up, TSE.)
But my view is that this is part of a wider culture in the current government: not blackmail, but bullying. And the bullying starts at the top. I think Boris is a bully. Cummings is/was a bully. Patel is a known bully. There will be others. They bully civil servants, driving quite a few out of the job. They bully SPADs that they turn against. And, following their lead, the Whips bully MPs with a nod and a wink from No. 10 - most notably over Paterson, and now over the PM's future. I suspect this bullying is alienating quite a few MPs, and they're getting sick of it - except for the sycophants sent out to defend the PM, of course.
So, my theory is that the bullying culture emanating from No. 10 is much more damaging to good governance than the (alleged) drinking culture.
Not that there is anything wrong with that of course
Blackmail has been part of the Whipping playbook for decades - nobody complained when it was, to pick a random example - Blair.
Seats rather like Epping Forest
"Child abuse happened under Blair, always ha, always will, so what's your point?"
If you are going old elite then Home given he was from an aristocratic family, new elite Sunak