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Even the Telegraph is getting impatient to see the benefits of Brexit – politicalbetting.com
Even the Telegraph is getting impatient to see the benefits of Brexit – politicalbetting.com
“It’s not just that the benefits of Brexit have so far proved elusive. It’s worse… The initial impact, from chaos with customs checks and a heavy blow to business investment, has been almost overwhelmingly negative.” Striking from ?@Telegraph? https://t.co/S5vd0Mvbjs
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The big prize remains an agreement with America but as the one-year anniversary of Joe Biden’s inauguration approaches, a transatlantic tie-up remains as far beyond our reach as ever.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/01/04/time-running-prove-brexit-not-historic-failure/ (£££)
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Sorting out what is Brexit, what is Covid, etc., will take some time.
It is possible that - in a decade's time - we will have slipped far behind the continental economies, and that Brexit will look like a very costly folly. It is equally possible that we will have soared, while they have stagnated (or worse).
The big story is immigration, however. If HMG can't get a grip on the Channel then they have literally "lost control" of the borders and many Leavers will think Fuck it, what WAS the point?
edit: I mean that the ruling hasn't yet been made.
https://i2-prod.irishmirror.ie/incoming/article20905815.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/1_PAY-La-Fete-Gitane-Party.jpg
Id love to see the vaccinated/ voter intention correlation on this
https://twitter.com/mariatad/status/1478472234889093128
https://twitter.com/nicolasberrod/status/1478456757970251778
I'm still right anyway. Wait n see.
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These have been massive effects and I predict that there is a lot more disruption to come. It is not paperwork, such as that required by our non EU markets both before and after we left that is causing the decline.
Our economy also grew quite strongly this year, faster than any of the larger economies in Europe. Do I claim that is a benefit of Brexit? Will I claim it when we continue to outgrow the EU average next year? Nope. There are far more important factors at play.
A nihilistic project only ever leads entropically to heat death...
A startling statistic - since the Brexit vote, the Uk stock market is up about 5% and the US stock market up about 105%
And it won partly for that reason - and partly because people like me cared about sovereignty (I was sad to see the end of FoM, had no problem with Polish plumbers, but I respect the vote and intent of those that did)
You can't get a more spectacular illustration of "losing control of the borders" than, er, "losing control of the borders" - as in tens of thousands of illegal immigrants just sailing up to our shores and not getting removed. At times it can look like an "invasion"
If the Tories can't get a handle on this ASAP then Leave voters who really care about immigration WILL punish them, and they will also ask What was Brexit FOR?
it is amazing to see the lengths people will contort themselves in their desperation to avoid THE FOURTH POSSIBILITY
When I was Chair of the Assembly I once had an insane lunch with Boris Johnson and Prince Andrew. After we escorted him out the building BJ turned to me and said. "I'm the last person to be a republican but fuck. If I ever have to spend another lunch like that I soon will be."
https://twitter.com/DarrenJohnson66/status/1167449383706791936
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/photo-booth/the-photo-book-that-captured-how-the-soviet-regime-made-the-truth-disappear
It is easier to comprehend if one thinks of China and democracy. From a Chinese person's point of view one might ask: What evidence is there that democracy would do us good - what are the benefits.
And the answer might be: I can't say. Democracy is a good thing to have whether or not is makes you richer or whatever. It is also dangerous, messy, and because it puts elections and leadership decisions in the hands of you people one can never predict. By the way it might make everyone richer, healthier, more free, more interesting, whatever - it sometimes does.
Brexit in large part is the same sort of exercise.
https://twitter.com/MicahPollak/status/1477727474003894274\
Micah Pollak
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If you're going to trust anyone to know the real cost of #COVID19 in terms of deaths, trust life insurance companies. I was there for this online news conference and it was stunning. Deaths are up 40% *from pre-pandemic levels* among working-age people.
Plus you would be the first to complain about cheap, mass produced, chemical filled US meat arriving here after a US trade deal and hitting our farmers
That's not my Brexit it's taxes are too high.
That's not my Brexit it comes with massively increased paperwork. Etc., Etc,.Etc.
Right down to My uncle John That's not my Brexit, the pizza shop is still open. It smells funny.
Can you imagine a company like Amazon growing in the UK without paying any dividends for decades?
What was also clear was that the UK mindset was pretty typical of Europe as a whole and London remains the largest stock market on the continent. These are quite interesting structural issues but they really have nothing to do with Brexit either. They were well established trends before and have not yet been broken, albeit London seems to have made some progress with smaller companies.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1534017/UK-trade-data-post-Brexit-GDP-EU-evg
That overcomes all the time/distance problems. This advanced civilisation could be 80,000 light years away, but they sent these probes 80,000 years ago. It also explains some of the G-forces observed, which would crush most conceivable organic life, as we understand it
The drones may contain AI of course, which adds another layer
Almost all the stuff we've seen has come from the US military. Which is weird, because there's only a few hundred thousand of them.
Politically the most interesting question (we may wait some time) is the Labour approach to the matter. At what point does this silence become so deafening that SKS has to respond?
BTW the much trailed big speech of SKS today did nor more than emphasise a few political objectives of the sort no-one short of Stalin or Pol Pot could find objection to, and to remind us that SKS loves flag and country.
https://twitter.com/DarrenJohnson66/status/1167535329915670529?s=20
By far the most likely alien scenario is that automated drones were sent to the 10,000 most likely places for intelligent life to develop to watch and report back.
We could well have drones from tens of different civilizations watching us and reporting back.
"Brexit, as delivered by BoZo and chums, is shit."
Quite a reach, but who knows. You could be right
As I said, any explanation that covers all the bases sounds rather mad. Like yours
Quite interesting.
It saddens me, but the older I get, the less I believe. I still want to though...
Like Europe did from the 15 the Century onwards.
So why shouldn't other more advanced civilisations on other planets do the same as us, only better? They will. So maybe that's what we are seeing
I am really interested in how Labour address this important issue
How much of that is Brexit, and how much is Covid related is the big question.
And Starmer's point is that is not working out too well.
Like Noah sending out that dove to find land. Like Portuguese caravels heading down the African coast. Like basically any exploratory civilisation that has ever existed. This is how it is done
Send out expendable "life forms" into the unknown. Wait and see if they come back, or at least send back a letter
I want to see a better relationship with the EU but until Labour lay out a policy the situation is stalemate
They can list all of the stupid, then we get how we make them less stupid. As an example there's a simple way to get rid of the reams of red tape throttling us...
I see I must re-calibrate my c*ntometer.
One of the better arguments for Brexit was that, by bringing decisions from Brussels to Westminster, we the people would be better able to impose our democratic will on the politicians. There are some echoes of that in the public anger about Sirtonyblair; lots of people don't like him/never voted for him and now resent him being tossed a bauble.
And at least a chunk of the 52%, and of the Johnson majority, were about keeping undocumented foreigners out. It doesn't matter that doing that would come at a hefty financial and ethical cost. A bit like the US Trade Deal that the Telegraph writer in the header is after; we could get a deal tomorrow, but it would be a terrible deal for the UK.
So the government's support includes people who are very clear what they don't want, and aren't going to be happy if they fail to not get it, reality be dammed. I wouldn't fancy being a Conservative canvasser telling such voters that they've got A Brexit and should be thankful for that.
I do think it’s a good signing.