The Downing Street New Years knees up planning committee! 😧
Here is the budget from the leaked minutes:
Booze: £100k Legal fees to come up with spurious but plausible deniability for breaking rules: £300k. Is Geoffrey around for some advice? Redecoration post event: £100k
Mrs. Fairliered is watching a home improvement programme just now. It features wallpaper that peels off. They could use some of that and peel it off after the party, thereby removing the wine stains and spew, allowing more in the budget for booze and legal fees.
I\m old enough to remember when (about 5 days ago) you were calling me a panty-wetting hysteric for freaking out about Nu (this is so long ago it was still called Nu!) and I insisted that this fucker gave me bad vibes. You then said “it’s just another scare story from South Africa, wake me up when it’s causing hospital admissions”
Surely the right thing to do is allow them to walk in a goal at the other end?
Why?
Arsenal didn't do anything wrong, it was Fred that took out De Gea, and Smith-Rowe didn't even know about De Gea being on the floor when he hit the shot.
If De Gea is fit enough to continue, perhaps he could have remained alert to the danger there
"A Labour source insisted relations with trades unions, including Unite, were good and pointed out that affiliated unions had always funded other causes in their members’ interests."
Same source when asked to comment about the state of Party Finances muttered something about a Pot to Piss in and not having one!!
Sharon always said she was going to pull the plug on a non-swivel eyed Labour Party.
There is no point having a shed full of Unite money if the trade off is vote losing and stupid Corbynista policies.
Labour’s biggest funder, Unite, will cut political donations to the party and divert the money to other leftwing causes, the union’s new general secretary, Sharon Graham, has warned.
Good perhaps Mexican Pete, Southam Observer Jonathon and CHB can make up the shortfall
Good to get a name check.
Starmer can at least say he isn't in Sharon Graham's pocket.
I was genuinely offended by Len threatening to turn the taps off if he wasn't allowed to toss his tuppence worth of nonsense into the Labour Party policy pot.
The last time I paid Labour Party fees it felt like I was taking on most of Len's burden anyway and that was almost a decade ago.
Surely Labour under SKS offers you exactly what you want politically Pete.
Without 150k members subs and a big reduction in Union monies SKS needs monies from supporters like yourself urgently.
"A Labour source insisted relations with trades unions, including Unite, were good and pointed out that affiliated unions had always funded other causes in their members’ interests."
Same source when asked to comment about the state of Party Finances muttered something about a Pot to Piss in and not having one!!
Sharon always said she was going to pull the plug on a non-swivel eyed Labour Party.
There is no point having a shed full of Unite money if the trade off is vote losing and stupid Corbynista policies.
Its SKS's Party that is headed for Bankruptcy.
Well done on Sharon for carrying out her pledge to remove funding.
"A Labour source insisted relations with trades unions, including Unite, were good and pointed out that affiliated unions had always funded other causes in their members’ interests."
Same source when asked to comment about the state of Party Finances muttered something about a Pot to Piss in and not having one!!
Sharon always said she was going to pull the plug on a non-swivel eyed Labour Party.
There is no point having a shed full of Unite money if the trade off is vote losing and stupid Corbynista policies.
Its SKS's Party that is headed for Bankruptcy.
Well done on Sharon for carrying out her pledge to remove funding.
Unlike SKS who has broke all 10 of his.
Good, because they were stupid pledges to have made.
Omicron has a "substantial" ability to evade immunity from a previous COVID infection, according to the first real-world study of the variant's effect https://trib.al/CuMTQWV
Slightly worrying that the Oslo superspreading party required everyone to be vaccinated and tested before the party. No information yet on severity.
I knew about the abuse but I thought it mainly involved really terrible food?
If they were reptilian, wouldn't they be "non human" anyway because human beings are mammals?
Does she mean extra-terrestrial?
I'm getting increasingly concerned about the rise of tautology in modern discourse.
Both tautology and saying the same thing twice are super annoying.
Firstly, this group are actually against all ritual Satanic abuse? Activist for ritual satanic abuse? Or ritual satanic abuse as a preserve, as you say for human manalks it’s sacrilege if tainted by reptiles? The way they are described makes it sound like satanises being ritually abused?
Secondly my counsellor says there are no aliens in the universe because all life in the universe comes from God’s consciousness so we are all technically the same whatever planet we are from.
Apologies if some of the stuff I post is just too damn heave for you to understand.
Yay! My first ever off topic! I’m a proper PB-er now 🙂
Surely not more off topic than everything which preceded it!
Have we discussed the weird Scotsman poll? Sudden bounce for independence, now 55-45. Personal ratings Sturgeon +20, Sarwar +17 (also a bounce upwards), Ross -27, Johnson -64 (the lowest rating ever recorded by Ipsos-Mori) SNP 52 (+2), Con 19 (-1), Lab 17(-5!) constituency, 43/20/15 and Greens 12 regional. So a typical Scot is an Indy-loving, Sarwar-loving, Labour-hating voter.
Apparently.
Several times. Most recently when HYUFD insisted on counting the NDs against indy. But don't forget Mr Ross was caught not, erm,. bothering to declare his earnings from (a) his second apparently full time job as a representative in another parliament, AND his third job as a footie referee.
Edit: but that SLAB discrepancy is odd.
Scots look at Anas Sarwar and think he’s not too bad (compared to his predecessors). Then they look at their local Labour councillors and think “I’m not voting for that bunch of incompetent troughers”.
Might be other reasons for the latter, too, such as being second rate Tory Unionists (as in Aberdeen). But it's not as if, say, Mesdames/Messrs Murphy, Dugdale, Leonard etc. had the gravitas of, say, John Smith or Donald Dewar - or Wendy Alexander.
Labour’s biggest funder, Unite, will cut political donations to the party and divert the money to other leftwing causes, the union’s new general secretary, Sharon Graham, has warned.
Good perhaps Mexican Pete, Southam Observer Jonathon and CHB can make up the shortfall
Good to get a name check.
Starmer can at least say he isn't in Sharon Graham's pocket.
I was genuinely offended by Len threatening to turn the taps off if he wasn't allowed to toss his tuppence worth of nonsense into the Labour Party policy pot.
The last time I paid Labour Party fees it felt like I was taking on most of Len's burden anyway and that was almost a decade ago.
Surely Labour under SKS offers you exactly what you want politically Pete.
Without 150k members subs and a big reduction in Union monies SKS needs monies from supporters like yourself urgently.
It is unconscionable to imagine Starmer might rely on voluntary payments from members rather than the highly anachronistic trade union levy which was not only more or less extorted from union members regardless of their political views but put overwhelming power in the hands of a few scarcely elected, usually corrupt and frequently somewhat sinister union barons.
"A Labour source insisted relations with trades unions, including Unite, were good and pointed out that affiliated unions had always funded other causes in their members’ interests."
Same source when asked to comment about the state of Party Finances muttered something about a Pot to Piss in and not having one!!
Sharon always said she was going to pull the plug on a non-swivel eyed Labour Party.
There is no point having a shed full of Unite money if the trade off is vote losing and stupid Corbynista policies.
Its SKS's Party that is headed for Bankruptcy.
Well done on Sharon for carrying out her pledge to remove funding.
Unlike SKS who has broke all 10 of his.
Good, because they were stupid pledges to have made.
Stupid to pledge ‘strengthen workers rights and trade unions’?
You think all 10 pledges were stupid but you still voted for him?
Labour’s biggest funder, Unite, will cut political donations to the party and divert the money to other leftwing causes, the union’s new general secretary, Sharon Graham, has warned.
Good perhaps Mexican Pete, Southam Observer Jonathon and CHB can make up the shortfall
Good to get a name check.
Starmer can at least say he isn't in Sharon Graham's pocket.
I was genuinely offended by Len threatening to turn the taps off if he wasn't allowed to toss his tuppence worth of nonsense into the Labour Party policy pot.
The last time I paid Labour Party fees it felt like I was taking on most of Len's burden anyway and that was almost a decade ago.
Surely Labour under SKS offers you exactly what you want politically Pete.
Without 150k members subs and a big reduction in Union monies SKS needs monies from supporters like yourself urgently.
It is unconscionable to imagine Starmer might rely on voluntary payments from members rather than the highly anachronistic trade union levy which was not only more or less extorted from union members regardless of their political views but put overwhelming power in the hands of a few scarcely elected, usually corrupt and frequently somewhat sinister union barons.
for anybody who wats some numbers to put that in to context:
In the last year for which numbers are published:
Unite political fund spent £9,474,000 out of which £7,607,000 went directly to the Labour party, £1,540,000 went indirectly to support the labour party and 372,000 did not go to the labour party. At the end of the year the Unite political fund had £16,462,000 in the bank about and an income of £7,200,000
Labour’s biggest funder, Unite, will cut political donations to the party and divert the money to other leftwing causes, the union’s new general secretary, Sharon Graham, has warned.
Good perhaps Mexican Pete, Southam Observer Jonathon and CHB can make up the shortfall
Good to get a name check.
Starmer can at least say he isn't in Sharon Graham's pocket.
I was genuinely offended by Len threatening to turn the taps off if he wasn't allowed to toss his tuppence worth of nonsense into the Labour Party policy pot.
The last time I paid Labour Party fees it felt like I was taking on most of Len's burden anyway and that was almost a decade ago.
Surely Labour under SKS offers you exactly what you want politically Pete.
Without 150k members subs and a big reduction in Union monies SKS needs monies from supporters like yourself urgently.
It is unconscionable to imagine Starmer might rely on voluntary payments from members rather than the highly anachronistic trade union levy which was not only more or less extorted from union members regardless of their political views but put overwhelming power in the hands of a few scarcely elected, usually corrupt and frequently somewhat sinister union barons.
How on Earth could he survive the shame?
Which members?
He has lost 150k of those too and counting
Given some of these people apparently thought Richard Burgon and Laura Pidcock were intelligent and radical working class heroes, I don't think they are much loss to Labour.
Sarah Phelps @PhelpsieSarah I was a bit of a dick about doing the speed awareness course but I haven’t stopped thinking about it. Shocked by how much I drive like a stressy careless twat. Thinking about doing an advanced course or something like that so I’m not a car-twat. https://twitter.com/PhelpsieSarah/status/1466324421027770371
I did one earlier this year after being done for 27 mph in a 20 mph zone. Some interesting points, but I'm still bitter about the location.
In some ways driving is to easy - so people find they can all too easily drift off in their attention.
I drove through Hampton recently and I was so lucky that I was behind a local who knew it was a 20 limit. There are cameras both ways and they catch loads of people. Curiously, Google Street View is messed up just at bit where the cameras are:
For me, the issue is that driving is routine. We do it without incident for the vast majority of time.
Those 20 limits are an utter disgrace, in my opinion.
As per previous thread I hired a Ford Puma the other day which knew, and limited itself to, the speed limit. This was in Scotland where all towns seem to be 20 mph. Must have saved me several tickets.
That’s one of the reasons I love our Volvos. Their smart safety system must have saved me a fortune over the years. The cars have rock-solid info on all speed limit zones, and warn you if you’re going too fast when changing to a new zone.
Waze is almost as good, but maybe less user-friendly than an in-built system.
Our other car has no such system and I often find myself driving far too fast.
The mismatching cars can be a killer. I did £1500 damage to a land rover a few years ago because I expected it to have reversing sensors and it didn't. Thinking you have ABS when you haven't can also be problematic.
Snap.
Our Mini was the first of our cars in about ten years not to have reversing sensors. Various family members have now smashed the rear bumper on three occasions, so I can’t be bothered repairing the latest incident. It’s going in March anyway.
Thanks for the kind remarks. I’m not dying (I hope) but it isn’t pleasant. The main symptoms are intense fatigue, chest pain and a dry, scratchy cough - plus general aches etc. I have slept 32 of the last 36 hours. Mad. These are the signs of Omicron as reported from SA. My senses of smell and taste are fine
I’ve ordered a PCR which should arrive tomorrow so then I’ll know. It’s certainly something best avoided - whatever it is
Labour’s biggest funder, Unite, will cut political donations to the party and divert the money to other leftwing causes, the union’s new general secretary, Sharon Graham, has warned.
Good perhaps Mexican Pete, Southam Observer Jonathon and CHB can make up the shortfall
Good to get a name check.
Starmer can at least say he isn't in Sharon Graham's pocket.
I was genuinely offended by Len threatening to turn the taps off if he wasn't allowed to toss his tuppence worth of nonsense into the Labour Party policy pot.
The last time I paid Labour Party fees it felt like I was taking on most of Len's burden anyway and that was almost a decade ago.
Surely Labour under SKS offers you exactly what you want politically Pete.
Without 150k members subs and a big reduction in Union monies SKS needs monies from supporters like yourself urgently.
It is unconscionable to imagine Starmer might rely on voluntary payments from members rather than the highly anachronistic trade union levy which was not only more or less extorted from union members regardless of their political views but put overwhelming power in the hands of a few scarcely elected, usually corrupt and frequently somewhat sinister union barons.
How on Earth could he survive the shame?
Which members?
He has lost 150k of those too and counting
I'm one of them but I think Corbyn is a whopper, so what is your point?
Incidentally, I am holed up in a beautiful little cottage by the river Monnow in Craswall, west Herefordshire, with a suspected case of Omicron
No joke
oh my cronies! PBs very own coroni lab rat!
I bet you are the sort of person that had to have the first batch of new iPads, got the tickets to the biggest premier,, having read that biggest selller before anyone has heard of it aren’t you?
Incidentally, I am holed up in a beautiful little cottage by the river Monnow in Craswall, west Herefordshire, with a suspected case of Omicron
No joke
Hope you feel better soon. Interesting as the Nature article posted by @Chris said that PCR tests were only to a degree able to identify Omicron. Who is doing the suspecting?
Sarah Phelps @PhelpsieSarah I was a bit of a dick about doing the speed awareness course but I haven’t stopped thinking about it. Shocked by how much I drive like a stressy careless twat. Thinking about doing an advanced course or something like that so I’m not a car-twat. https://twitter.com/PhelpsieSarah/status/1466324421027770371
I did one earlier this year after being done for 27 mph in a 20 mph zone. Some interesting points, but I'm still bitter about the location.
In some ways driving is to easy - so people find they can all too easily drift off in their attention.
I drove through Hampton recently and I was so lucky that I was behind a local who knew it was a 20 limit. There are cameras both ways and they catch loads of people. Curiously, Google Street View is messed up just at bit where the cameras are:
For me, the issue is that driving is routine. We do it without incident for the vast majority of time.
Those 20 limits are an utter disgrace, in my opinion.
As per previous thread I hired a Ford Puma the other day which knew, and limited itself to, the speed limit. This was in Scotland where all towns seem to be 20 mph. Must have saved me several tickets.
That’s one of the reasons I love our Volvos. Their smart safety system must have saved me a fortune over the years. The cars have rock-solid info on all speed limit zones, and warn you if you’re going too fast when changing to a new zone.
Waze is almost as good, but maybe less user-friendly than an in-built system.
Our other car has no such system and I often find myself driving far too fast.
The mismatching cars can be a killer. I did £1500 damage to a land rover a few years ago because I expected it to have reversing sensors and it didn't. Thinking you have ABS when you haven't can also be problematic.
Snap.
Our Mini was the first of our cars in about ten years not to have reversing sensors. Various family members have now smashed the rear bumper on three occasions, so I can’t be bothered repairing the latest incident. It’s going in March anyway.
Weird, I've never had a car with reversing sensors.
for anybody who wats some numbers to put that in to context:
In the last year for which numbers are published:
Unite political fund spent £9,474,000 out of which £7,607,000 went directly to the Labour party, £1,540,000 went indirectly to support the labour party and 372,000 did not go to the labour party. At the end of the year the Unite political fund had £16,462,000 in the bank about and an income of £7,200,000
Incidentally, I am holed up in a beautiful little cottage by the river Monnow in Craswall, west Herefordshire, with a suspected case of Omicron
No joke
oh my cronies! PBs very own coroni lab rat! 🤗
I bet you are the sort of person that had to have the first batch of new iPads, got the tickets to the biggest premier,, having read that biggest selller before anyone has heard of it aren’t you?
I do hope you are okay. Take all the advice what to do Leon. Rest. Avoid alcohol but drink fluid.
Are you alone there? 😟. Don’t hesitate to call for help if you need it.
for anybody who wats some numbers to put that in to context:
In the last year for which numbers are published:
Unite political fund spent £9,474,000 out of which £7,607,000 went directly to the Labour party, £1,540,000 went indirectly to support the labour party and 372,000 did not go to the labour party. At the end of the year the Unite political fund had £16,462,000 in the bank about and an income of £7,200,000
And Sharon Graham is committing to maintaining at least £1m in affiliation so presumably the other £8m is under threat.
I would love to see SKS and Evans plans to replace whatever proportion of the £8m that is withdrawn.
Wonder how much Murdoch and Blair are good for and what they will require in return.
In Blair's case he might be good for a couple of million in exchange for not being roundly abused by a bunch of addled left wing muppets for having dared to win elections.
I damn well hope I've got some protection after this Moderna booster. It doesn't muck around !
I had moderna each time and knocked me for six. The original dose in the trial was even higher for some!
Can you get it in Australia? It would be handy to have something that knocks for six.
I had my first Pfizer this afternoon, to add to my AZ x 2. So far just my arm is a bit sore.
I’m double Pfizered. I didn’t even get so much as a sore arm either time.
I’ve become a bit of a vaccine junkie in recent years. If they’ve got a vaccine for it, I want it. Latest was shingles, flu and yellow fever (which was the only one with unpleasant side-effects).
Thanks for the kind remarks. I’m not dying (I hope) but it isn’t pleasant. The main symptoms are intense fatigue, chest pain and a dry, scratchy cough - plus general aches etc. I have slept 32 of the last 36 hours. Mad. These are the signs of Omicron as reported from SA. My senses of smell and taste are fine
I’ve ordered a PCR which should arrive tomorrow so then I’ll know. It’s certainly something best avoided - whatever it is
Sarah Phelps @PhelpsieSarah I was a bit of a dick about doing the speed awareness course but I haven’t stopped thinking about it. Shocked by how much I drive like a stressy careless twat. Thinking about doing an advanced course or something like that so I’m not a car-twat. https://twitter.com/PhelpsieSarah/status/1466324421027770371
I did one earlier this year after being done for 27 mph in a 20 mph zone. Some interesting points, but I'm still bitter about the location.
In some ways driving is to easy - so people find they can all too easily drift off in their attention.
I drove through Hampton recently and I was so lucky that I was behind a local who knew it was a 20 limit. There are cameras both ways and they catch loads of people. Curiously, Google Street View is messed up just at bit where the cameras are:
For me, the issue is that driving is routine. We do it without incident for the vast majority of time.
Those 20 limits are an utter disgrace, in my opinion.
As per previous thread I hired a Ford Puma the other day which knew, and limited itself to, the speed limit. This was in Scotland where all towns seem to be 20 mph. Must have saved me several tickets.
That’s one of the reasons I love our Volvos. Their smart safety system must have saved me a fortune over the years. The cars have rock-solid info on all speed limit zones, and warn you if you’re going too fast when changing to a new zone.
Waze is almost as good, but maybe less user-friendly than an in-built system.
Our other car has no such system and I often find myself driving far too fast.
The mismatching cars can be a killer. I did £1500 damage to a land rover a few years ago because I expected it to have reversing sensors and it didn't. Thinking you have ABS when you haven't can also be problematic.
Snap.
Our Mini was the first of our cars in about ten years not to have reversing sensors. Various family members have now smashed the rear bumper on three occasions, so I can’t be bothered repairing the latest incident. It’s going in March anyway.
Weird, I've never had a car with reversing sensors.
Front sensors are the worst, they totally ruin your judgment.
Incidentally, I am holed up in a beautiful little cottage by the river Monnow in Craswall, west Herefordshire, with a suspected case of Omicron
No joke
Hope you feel better soon. Interesting as the Nature article posted by @Chris said that PCR tests were only to a degree able to identify Omicron. Who is doing the suspecting?
111 England
Tho they didn’t say “omicron” they just said “quite probably covid get tested immediately”
I’m the one making the leap, not just because I want to be a fashionable early adopter but because my symptoms are spookily like the ones described by South African GPs
I’m praying it’s just a bug, I can do without long Covid and quarantines
I knew about the abuse but I thought it mainly involved really terrible food?
If they were reptilian, wouldn't they be "non human" anyway because human beings are mammals?
Does she mean extra-terrestrial?
I'm getting increasingly concerned about the rise of tautology in modern discourse.
Both tautology and saying the same thing twice are super annoying.
Firstly, this group are actually against all ritual Satanic abuse? Activist for ritual satanic abuse? Or ritual satanic abuse as a preserve, as you say for human manalks it’s sacrilege if tainted by reptiles? The way they are described makes it sound like satanises being ritually abused?
Secondly my counsellor says there are no aliens in the universe because all life in the universe comes from God’s consciousness so we are all technically the same whatever planet we are from.
Apologies if some of the stuff I post is just too damn heave for you to understand.
Yay! My first ever off topic! I’m a proper PB-er now 🙂
Surely not more off topic than everything which preceded it!
Two more for that post 😆. I love everyone here, you are the funniest. Especially if you are Stodge and Union Divvy and Ian doing it!
Labour’s biggest funder, Unite, will cut political donations to the party and divert the money to other leftwing causes, the union’s new general secretary, Sharon Graham, has warned.
Good perhaps Mexican Pete, Southam Observer Jonathon and CHB can make up the shortfall
Good to get a name check.
Starmer can at least say he isn't in Sharon Graham's pocket.
I was genuinely offended by Len threatening to turn the taps off if he wasn't allowed to toss his tuppence worth of nonsense into the Labour Party policy pot.
The last time I paid Labour Party fees it felt like I was taking on most of Len's burden anyway and that was almost a decade ago.
Surely Labour under SKS offers you exactly what you want politically Pete.
Without 150k members subs and a big reduction in Union monies SKS needs monies from supporters like yourself urgently.
It is unconscionable to imagine Starmer might rely on voluntary payments from members rather than the highly anachronistic trade union levy which was not only more or less extorted from union members regardless of their political views but put overwhelming power in the hands of a few scarcely elected, usually corrupt and frequently somewhat sinister union barons.
How on Earth could he survive the shame?
Which members?
He has lost 150k of those too and counting
I'm one of them but I think Corbyn is a whopper, so what is your point?
My point is Lab is a financial basket case under SKS and down over £2m on membership fees
and now Unions are sick of funding a leader that doesnt suppport Union causes and withdrawing their financial support too
So far there is no alternative funding forthcoming but i am sure CHB will have a cunning plan?
Labour’s biggest funder, Unite, will cut political donations to the party and divert the money to other leftwing causes, the union’s new general secretary, Sharon Graham, has warned.
Good perhaps Mexican Pete, Southam Observer Jonathon and CHB can make up the shortfall
Good to get a name check.
Starmer can at least say he isn't in Sharon Graham's pocket.
I was genuinely offended by Len threatening to turn the taps off if he wasn't allowed to toss his tuppence worth of nonsense into the Labour Party policy pot.
The last time I paid Labour Party fees it felt like I was taking on most of Len's burden anyway and that was almost a decade ago.
Surely Labour under SKS offers you exactly what you want politically Pete.
Without 150k members subs and a big reduction in Union monies SKS needs monies from supporters like yourself urgently.
It is unconscionable to imagine Starmer might rely on voluntary payments from members rather than the highly anachronistic trade union levy which was not only more or less extorted from union members regardless of their political views but put overwhelming power in the hands of a few scarcely elected, usually corrupt and frequently somewhat sinister union barons.
How on Earth could he survive the shame?
Which members?
He has lost 150k of those too and counting
Has anybody got a link to indicate that 150k loss in membership?
Im wondering, It might be correct, but also may be out of date now, or simply a updating an old list and removing people who had not paid membership in a long time.
Labour’s biggest funder, Unite, will cut political donations to the party and divert the money to other leftwing causes, the union’s new general secretary, Sharon Graham, has warned.
Good perhaps Mexican Pete, Southam Observer Jonathon and CHB can make up the shortfall
Good to get a name check.
Starmer can at least say he isn't in Sharon Graham's pocket.
I was genuinely offended by Len threatening to turn the taps off if he wasn't allowed to toss his tuppence worth of nonsense into the Labour Party policy pot.
The last time I paid Labour Party fees it felt like I was taking on most of Len's burden anyway and that was almost a decade ago.
Surely Labour under SKS offers you exactly what you want politically Pete.
Without 150k members subs and a big reduction in Union monies SKS needs monies from supporters like yourself urgently.
It is unconscionable to imagine Starmer might rely on voluntary payments from members rather than the highly anachronistic trade union levy which was not only more or less extorted from union members regardless of their political views but put overwhelming power in the hands of a few scarcely elected, usually corrupt and frequently somewhat sinister union barons.
How on Earth could he survive the shame?
Which members?
He has lost 150k of those too and counting
I'm one of them but I think Corbyn is a whopper, so what is your point?
My point is Lab is a financial basket case under SKS and down over £2m on membership fees
and now Unions are sick of funding a leader that doesnt suppport Union causes and withdrawing their financial support too
So far there is no alternative funding forthcoming but i am sure CHB will have a cunning plan?
Well, that's adding value, surely? From basket case to financial basket case?
Sarah Phelps @PhelpsieSarah I was a bit of a dick about doing the speed awareness course but I haven’t stopped thinking about it. Shocked by how much I drive like a stressy careless twat. Thinking about doing an advanced course or something like that so I’m not a car-twat. https://twitter.com/PhelpsieSarah/status/1466324421027770371
I did one earlier this year after being done for 27 mph in a 20 mph zone. Some interesting points, but I'm still bitter about the location.
In some ways driving is to easy - so people find they can all too easily drift off in their attention.
I drove through Hampton recently and I was so lucky that I was behind a local who knew it was a 20 limit. There are cameras both ways and they catch loads of people. Curiously, Google Street View is messed up just at bit where the cameras are:
For me, the issue is that driving is routine. We do it without incident for the vast majority of time.
Those 20 limits are an utter disgrace, in my opinion.
As per previous thread I hired a Ford Puma the other day which knew, and limited itself to, the speed limit. This was in Scotland where all towns seem to be 20 mph. Must have saved me several tickets.
That’s one of the reasons I love our Volvos. Their smart safety system must have saved me a fortune over the years. The cars have rock-solid info on all speed limit zones, and warn you if you’re going too fast when changing to a new zone.
Waze is almost as good, but maybe less user-friendly than an in-built system.
Our other car has no such system and I often find myself driving far too fast.
The mismatching cars can be a killer. I did £1500 damage to a land rover a few years ago because I expected it to have reversing sensors and it didn't. Thinking you have ABS when you haven't can also be problematic.
Snap.
Our Mini was the first of our cars in about ten years not to have reversing sensors. Various family members have now smashed the rear bumper on three occasions, so I can’t be bothered repairing the latest incident. It’s going in March anyway.
Weird, I've never had a car with reversing sensors.
I’m a huge fan.
Other outstanding newer safety features: Adaptive cruise control Automatic braking Lane change warners Smart headlights
I’m also a full convert to automatic and AWD. Although when on holiday I love to hire a crapmobile with a dodgy manual gearbox and no A/C. Just wind down the windows and pump up the radio
I don't think that Boris will necessarily go down in history as being a great PM.
Not just because I think he is a useless twat, but because if you think about it, "he got Brexit done" - no. Well he was in the car when it drove over the line and the history books will talk about a short while of back and forth while the details were hammered out but the Great British Public, given the opportunity by Cameron, got Brexit done. And those history books might point out, as they do today about, say, the Great Depression or the GFC, the UK's relative position following Brexit and that position might be unfavourable.
Then there's Covid. Again we will have to wait for all the stats but at the moment they don't seem hugely favourable or hugely unfavourable. Middle of the pack, with better than Eastern Europe and towards the bottom of Western Europe, for example. So not a "great" performance by any measure.
The economy? Would have to take a look but doesn't seem anything special.
So what would be great about his PM-ship.
Boris will without doubt be always known as the Prime Minister of Brexit and covid and while not being great will be spoken about for many years to come
We still talk about Lord North today.
And Neville Chamberlain.
Some may think Johnson is an example, most will think him a terrible warning.
Hotels in the UK have been hit by a wave of Christmas cancellations as business customers call off parties and events amid concerns about the spread of the Omicron variant of Covid-19.
The Best Western Hotel Group, a franchise operator, said mixed messaging from ministers had already damaged trade, with concerns Christmas 2021 would have to be “written off”, while one independent hotelier in Devon pleaded with government not to “hang hospitality out to dry”.
Of the 290 independently owned Best Western hotels in the UK, three-quarters have had an increase in Christmas cancellations and 89% have expressed concern about the festive trading period, the group said. About 70% have seen a decline in bookings since the Omicron variant emerged. More than two-thirds are worried businesses and individuals will still be wary about booking in the early part of next year.
The Dartmoor Lodge in Devon said diners had been pulling out of bookings at its restaurant. In a plea to the prime minister posted on Twitter, the family-owned hotel said: “Please don’t hang hospitality out to dry – we’ve had many cancellations of Xmas dining – don’t restrict and advise not to socialise without financial support.”
Several restaurant bookings for larger groups had been cancelled, a manager at the hotel said, including a conference with 40 people planned for Monday, although room bookings had not been affected.
Tim Rumney, the chief executive of Best Western GB, criticised confusing signals from government. “We have had a week of mixed messages about whether people should socialise or cancel parties or not and small, independent businesses like our hotels are on the frontline feeling the effects of that indecision.
Thanks for the kind remarks. I’m not dying (I hope) but it isn’t pleasant. The main symptoms are intense fatigue, chest pain and a dry, scratchy cough - plus general aches etc. I have slept 32 of the last 36 hours. Mad. These are the signs of Omicron as reported from SA. My senses of smell and taste are fine
I’ve ordered a PCR which should arrive tomorrow so then I’ll know. It’s certainly something best avoided - whatever it is
Dude, that's just getting old.
Hah
This description of Omicron does sound exactly like my lurgy
"A Labour source insisted relations with trades unions, including Unite, were good and pointed out that affiliated unions had always funded other causes in their members’ interests."
Same source when asked to comment about the state of Party Finances muttered something about a Pot to Piss in and not having one!!
Sharon always said she was going to pull the plug on a non-swivel eyed Labour Party.
There is no point having a shed full of Unite money if the trade off is vote losing and stupid Corbynista policies.
Its SKS's Party that is headed for Bankruptcy.
Well done on Sharon for carrying out her pledge to remove funding.
Unlike SKS who has broke all 10 of his.
Good, because they were stupid pledges to have made.
Stupid to pledge ‘strengthen workers rights and trade unions’?
You think all 10 pledges were stupid but you still voted for him?
Oh well.
I voted for him full well knowing he would break them and I said so here at the time.
Sarah Phelps @PhelpsieSarah I was a bit of a dick about doing the speed awareness course but I haven’t stopped thinking about it. Shocked by how much I drive like a stressy careless twat. Thinking about doing an advanced course or something like that so I’m not a car-twat. https://twitter.com/PhelpsieSarah/status/1466324421027770371
I did one earlier this year after being done for 27 mph in a 20 mph zone. Some interesting points, but I'm still bitter about the location.
In some ways driving is to easy - so people find they can all too easily drift off in their attention.
I drove through Hampton recently and I was so lucky that I was behind a local who knew it was a 20 limit. There are cameras both ways and they catch loads of people. Curiously, Google Street View is messed up just at bit where the cameras are:
For me, the issue is that driving is routine. We do it without incident for the vast majority of time.
Those 20 limits are an utter disgrace, in my opinion.
As per previous thread I hired a Ford Puma the other day which knew, and limited itself to, the speed limit. This was in Scotland where all towns seem to be 20 mph. Must have saved me several tickets.
That’s one of the reasons I love our Volvos. Their smart safety system must have saved me a fortune over the years. The cars have rock-solid info on all speed limit zones, and warn you if you’re going too fast when changing to a new zone.
Waze is almost as good, but maybe less user-friendly than an in-built system.
Our other car has no such system and I often find myself driving far too fast.
The mismatching cars can be a killer. I did £1500 damage to a land rover a few years ago because I expected it to have reversing sensors and it didn't. Thinking you have ABS when you haven't can also be problematic.
Snap.
Our Mini was the first of our cars in about ten years not to have reversing sensors. Various family members have now smashed the rear bumper on three occasions, so I can’t be bothered repairing the latest incident. It’s going in March anyway.
Weird, I've never had a car with reversing sensors.
Labour’s biggest funder, Unite, will cut political donations to the party and divert the money to other leftwing causes, the union’s new general secretary, Sharon Graham, has warned.
Good perhaps Mexican Pete, Southam Observer Jonathon and CHB can make up the shortfall
Good to get a name check.
Starmer can at least say he isn't in Sharon Graham's pocket.
I was genuinely offended by Len threatening to turn the taps off if he wasn't allowed to toss his tuppence worth of nonsense into the Labour Party policy pot.
The last time I paid Labour Party fees it felt like I was taking on most of Len's burden anyway and that was almost a decade ago.
Surely Labour under SKS offers you exactly what you want politically Pete.
Without 150k members subs and a big reduction in Union monies SKS needs monies from supporters like yourself urgently.
It is unconscionable to imagine Starmer might rely on voluntary payments from members rather than the highly anachronistic trade union levy which was not only more or less extorted from union members regardless of their political views but put overwhelming power in the hands of a few scarcely elected, usually corrupt and frequently somewhat sinister union barons.
How on Earth could he survive the shame?
Which members?
He has lost 150k of those too and counting
I'm one of them but I think Corbyn is a whopper, so what is your point?
My point is Lab is a financial basket case under SKS and down over £2m on membership fees
and now Unions are sick of funding a leader that doesnt suppport Union causes and withdrawing their financial support too
So far there is no alternative funding forthcoming but i am sure CHB will have a cunning plan?
Well, that's adding value, surely? From basket case to financial basket case?
After the antisemitism and abuse under Corbyn, they've gone from morally bankrupt to fiscally . . .
Thanks for the kind remarks. I’m not dying (I hope) but it isn’t pleasant. The main symptoms are intense fatigue, chest pain and a dry, scratchy cough - plus general aches etc. I have slept 32 of the last 36 hours. Mad. These are the signs of Omicron as reported from SA. My senses of smell and taste are fine
I’ve ordered a PCR which should arrive tomorrow so then I’ll know. It’s certainly something best avoided - whatever it is
Sounds nasty. Drink plenty of water, take paracetamol and rest.
Labour’s biggest funder, Unite, will cut political donations to the party and divert the money to other leftwing causes, the union’s new general secretary, Sharon Graham, has warned.
Good perhaps Mexican Pete, Southam Observer Jonathon and CHB can make up the shortfall
Good to get a name check.
Starmer can at least say he isn't in Sharon Graham's pocket.
I was genuinely offended by Len threatening to turn the taps off if he wasn't allowed to toss his tuppence worth of nonsense into the Labour Party policy pot.
The last time I paid Labour Party fees it felt like I was taking on most of Len's burden anyway and that was almost a decade ago.
Surely Labour under SKS offers you exactly what you want politically Pete.
Without 150k members subs and a big reduction in Union monies SKS needs monies from supporters like yourself urgently.
It is unconscionable to imagine Starmer might rely on voluntary payments from members rather than the highly anachronistic trade union levy which was not only more or less extorted from union members regardless of their political views but put overwhelming power in the hands of a few scarcely elected, usually corrupt and frequently somewhat sinister union barons.
How on Earth could he survive the shame?
Which members?
He has lost 150k of those too and counting
I'm one of them but I think Corbyn is a whopper, so what is your point?
My point is Lab is a financial basket case under SKS and down over £2m on membership fees
and now Unions are sick of funding a leader that doesnt suppport Union causes and withdrawing their financial support too
So far there is no alternative funding forthcoming but i am sure CHB will have a cunning plan?
Well, that's adding value, surely? From basket case to financial basket case?
After the antisemitism and abuse under Corbyn, they've gone from morally bankrupt to fiscally . . .
For one they took a pounding, for the other the pounds have gone.
for anybody who wats some numbers to put that in to context:
In the last year for which numbers are published:
Unite political fund spent £9,474,000 out of which £7,607,000 went directly to the Labour party, £1,540,000 went indirectly to support the labour party and 372,000 did not go to the labour party. At the end of the year the Unite political fund had £16,462,000 in the bank about and an income of £7,200,000
Thanks for the kind remarks. I’m not dying (I hope) but it isn’t pleasant. The main symptoms are intense fatigue, chest pain and a dry, scratchy cough - plus general aches etc. I have slept 32 of the last 36 hours. Mad. These are the signs of Omicron as reported from SA. My senses of smell and taste are fine
I’ve ordered a PCR which should arrive tomorrow so then I’ll know. It’s certainly something best avoided - whatever it is
Sounds nasty. Drink plenty of water, take paracetamol and rest.
Also don't forget the oxygen sat test. That's the key indicator of if / when it might be getting worse (presuming you have COVID).
for anybody who wats some numbers to put that in to context:
In the last year for which numbers are published:
Unite political fund spent £9,474,000 out of which £7,607,000 went directly to the Labour party, £1,540,000 went indirectly to support the labour party and 372,000 did not go to the labour party. At the end of the year the Unite political fund had £16,462,000 in the bank about and an income of £7,200,000
"A Labour source insisted relations with trades unions, including Unite, were good and pointed out that affiliated unions had always funded other causes in their members’ interests."
Same source when asked to comment about the state of Party Finances muttered something about a Pot to Piss in and not having one!!
Sharon always said she was going to pull the plug on a non-swivel eyed Labour Party.
There is no point having a shed full of Unite money if the trade off is vote losing and stupid Corbynista policies.
Its SKS's Party that is headed for Bankruptcy.
Well done on Sharon for carrying out her pledge to remove funding.
Unlike SKS who has broke all 10 of his.
Good, because they were stupid pledges to have made.
Stupid to pledge ‘strengthen workers rights and trade unions’?
You think all 10 pledges were stupid but you still voted for him?
Oh well.
I voted for him full well knowing he would break them and I said so here at the time.
Clever boy you voted for a liar
Knowing in advance he was a liar.
The saying you get the Politicians you deserve has proven correct again in your case.
Sarah Phelps @PhelpsieSarah I was a bit of a dick about doing the speed awareness course but I haven’t stopped thinking about it. Shocked by how much I drive like a stressy careless twat. Thinking about doing an advanced course or something like that so I’m not a car-twat. https://twitter.com/PhelpsieSarah/status/1466324421027770371
I did one earlier this year after being done for 27 mph in a 20 mph zone. Some interesting points, but I'm still bitter about the location.
In some ways driving is to easy - so people find they can all too easily drift off in their attention.
I drove through Hampton recently and I was so lucky that I was behind a local who knew it was a 20 limit. There are cameras both ways and they catch loads of people. Curiously, Google Street View is messed up just at bit where the cameras are:
For me, the issue is that driving is routine. We do it without incident for the vast majority of time.
Those 20 limits are an utter disgrace, in my opinion.
As per previous thread I hired a Ford Puma the other day which knew, and limited itself to, the speed limit. This was in Scotland where all towns seem to be 20 mph. Must have saved me several tickets.
That’s one of the reasons I love our Volvos. Their smart safety system must have saved me a fortune over the years. The cars have rock-solid info on all speed limit zones, and warn you if you’re going too fast when changing to a new zone.
Waze is almost as good, but maybe less user-friendly than an in-built system.
Our other car has no such system and I often find myself driving far too fast.
The mismatching cars can be a killer. I did £1500 damage to a land rover a few years ago because I expected it to have reversing sensors and it didn't. Thinking you have ABS when you haven't can also be problematic.
Snap.
Our Mini was the first of our cars in about ten years not to have reversing sensors. Various family members have now smashed the rear bumper on three occasions, so I can’t be bothered repairing the latest incident. It’s going in March anyway.
Weird, I've never had a car with reversing sensors.
Thinking about the new Omicron variant and the vaccine that is being develop to be optimised to beet it:
The original Physer variant was developed in a weekend, yes just a weekend, in January 2019. All it took was for the genetic code to be spliced in to the mRNA technology. ok maybe a bit more complex than that, but not a lot.
it then took 9 months to test and get approval of the vaccine. and a bit longer to ramp up production.
What will become the Omicron vaccine probably already exists, and Phser wording with the FDA and other regulators think and hope they can have it approved in 100 days.
I would like to take it now, and not wait till its been approved, I know there are risks, and we don't know exactly how effective it would be, but I would like to take it now, as to me that's an acceptable risk/reward payoff, I'm happy to sine a legal waver to explanate the makers of the vaccine, and I'm happy to pay for it with my own money.
Questions:
1. Should I have the right to take a medication like this that has not been approved? 2. If not why not? 3. Would anybody else join me if this was an option?
I think Classic Dom, before the select committee, suggested that they could have speeded up approval for the vaccines by skipping straight to jabbing a few thousand people with both the vaccine then COVID, and paying £1 000 000 to the families of any test subjects that died. I think it's good, but I'd pull the lever in the trolley problem.
It is worth remembering, though, that one doesn't recieve Covid intravenously - it's a disease of the upper respiratory tract. So, it's by no means clear that success of a vaccine at clearing it from the bloodstream would be the same as from lungs. (IIRC CureVac fell down on this very issue.)
I don't think that Boris will necessarily go down in history as being a great PM.
Not just because I think he is a useless twat, but because if you think about it, "he got Brexit done" - no. Well he was in the car when it drove over the line and the history books will talk about a short while of back and forth while the details were hammered out but the Great British Public, given the opportunity by Cameron, got Brexit done. And those history books might point out, as they do today about, say, the Great Depression or the GFC, the UK's relative position following Brexit and that position might be unfavourable.
Then there's Covid. Again we will have to wait for all the stats but at the moment they don't seem hugely favourable or hugely unfavourable. Middle of the pack, with better than Eastern Europe and towards the bottom of Western Europe, for example. So not a "great" performance by any measure.
The economy? Would have to take a look but doesn't seem anything special.
So what would be great about his PM-ship.
Boris will without doubt be always known as the Prime Minister of Brexit and covid and while not being great will be spoken about for many years to come
We still talk about Lord North today.
And Neville Chamberlain.
Jeremy Irons is playing Neville Chamberlain in new Netflix drama, Munich - The Edge of War, out in January
"A Labour source insisted relations with trades unions, including Unite, were good and pointed out that affiliated unions had always funded other causes in their members’ interests."
Same source when asked to comment about the state of Party Finances muttered something about a Pot to Piss in and not having one!!
Sharon always said she was going to pull the plug on a non-swivel eyed Labour Party.
There is no point having a shed full of Unite money if the trade off is vote losing and stupid Corbynista policies.
Its SKS's Party that is headed for Bankruptcy.
Well done on Sharon for carrying out her pledge to remove funding.
Unlike SKS who has broke all 10 of his.
Good, because they were stupid pledges to have made.
Stupid to pledge ‘strengthen workers rights and trade unions’?
You think all 10 pledges were stupid but you still voted for him?
Oh well.
I voted for him full well knowing he would break them and I said so here at the time.
Clever boy you voted for a liar
Knowing in advance he was a liar.
The saying you get the Politicians you deserve has proven correct again in your case.
Sarah Phelps @PhelpsieSarah I was a bit of a dick about doing the speed awareness course but I haven’t stopped thinking about it. Shocked by how much I drive like a stressy careless twat. Thinking about doing an advanced course or something like that so I’m not a car-twat. https://twitter.com/PhelpsieSarah/status/1466324421027770371
I did one earlier this year after being done for 27 mph in a 20 mph zone. Some interesting points, but I'm still bitter about the location.
In some ways driving is to easy - so people find they can all too easily drift off in their attention.
I drove through Hampton recently and I was so lucky that I was behind a local who knew it was a 20 limit. There are cameras both ways and they catch loads of people. Curiously, Google Street View is messed up just at bit where the cameras are:
For me, the issue is that driving is routine. We do it without incident for the vast majority of time.
Those 20 limits are an utter disgrace, in my opinion.
As per previous thread I hired a Ford Puma the other day which knew, and limited itself to, the speed limit. This was in Scotland where all towns seem to be 20 mph. Must have saved me several tickets.
That’s one of the reasons I love our Volvos. Their smart safety system must have saved me a fortune over the years. The cars have rock-solid info on all speed limit zones, and warn you if you’re going too fast when changing to a new zone.
Waze is almost as good, but maybe less user-friendly than an in-built system.
Our other car has no such system and I often find myself driving far too fast.
The mismatching cars can be a killer. I did £1500 damage to a land rover a few years ago because I expected it to have reversing sensors and it didn't. Thinking you have ABS when you haven't can also be problematic.
Snap.
Our Mini was the first of our cars in about ten years not to have reversing sensors. Various family members have now smashed the rear bumper on three occasions, so I can’t be bothered repairing the latest incident. It’s going in March anyway.
Weird, I've never had a car with reversing sensors.
Incidentally, I am holed up in a beautiful little cottage by the river Monnow in Craswall, west Herefordshire, with a suspected case of Omicron
No joke
Hope you feel better soon. Interesting as the Nature article posted by @Chris said that PCR tests were only to a degree able to identify Omicron. Who is doing the suspecting?
111 England
Tho they didn’t say “omicron” they just said “quite probably covid get tested immediately”
I’m the one making the leap, not just because I want to be a fashionable early adopter but because my symptoms are spookily like the ones described by South African GPs
I’m praying it’s just a bug, I can do without long Covid and quarantines
I just had this this week. Bed for 4 days. I did have loss of taste. Blood sats at 92-93% for 48 hrs. Breathy chest. PCR result - negative. This despite a quarter of my kids school teachers currently being off with covid. Most odd.
I don't think that Boris will necessarily go down in history as being a great PM.
Not just because I think he is a useless twat, but because if you think about it, "he got Brexit done" - no. Well he was in the car when it drove over the line and the history books will talk about a short while of back and forth while the details were hammered out but the Great British Public, given the opportunity by Cameron, got Brexit done. And those history books might point out, as they do today about, say, the Great Depression or the GFC, the UK's relative position following Brexit and that position might be unfavourable.
Then there's Covid. Again we will have to wait for all the stats but at the moment they don't seem hugely favourable or hugely unfavourable. Middle of the pack, with better than Eastern Europe and towards the bottom of Western Europe, for example. So not a "great" performance by any measure.
The economy? Would have to take a look but doesn't seem anything special.
So what would be great about his PM-ship.
Boris will without doubt be always known as the Prime Minister of Brexit and covid and while not being great will be spoken about for many years to come
We still talk about Lord North today.
And Neville Chamberlain.
Jeremy Irons is playing Neville Chamberlain in new Netflix drama, Munich - The Edge of War, out in January
Who was the better man: Chamberlain or your boy Franco?
Incidentally, I am holed up in a beautiful little cottage by the river Monnow in Craswall, west Herefordshire, with a suspected case of Omicron
No joke
Hope you feel better soon. Interesting as the Nature article posted by @Chris said that PCR tests were only to a degree able to identify Omicron. Who is doing the suspecting?
111 England
Tho they didn’t say “omicron” they just said “quite probably covid get tested immediately”
I’m the one making the leap, not just because I want to be a fashionable early adopter but because my symptoms are spookily like the ones described by South African GPs
I’m praying it’s just a bug, I can do without long Covid and quarantines
I just had this this week. Bed for 4 days. I did have loss of taste. Blood sats at 92-93% for 48 hrs. Breathy chest. PCR result - negative. This despite a quarter of my kids school teachers currently being off with covid. Most odd.
Have you done a PCR test before? If not (without disrespect to you personally) is there a chance you messed it up? I've had to do three and I've never been confident I got it right.
"A Labour source insisted relations with trades unions, including Unite, were good and pointed out that affiliated unions had always funded other causes in their members’ interests."
Same source when asked to comment about the state of Party Finances muttered something about a Pot to Piss in and not having one!!
Sharon always said she was going to pull the plug on a non-swivel eyed Labour Party.
There is no point having a shed full of Unite money if the trade off is vote losing and stupid Corbynista policies.
Its SKS's Party that is headed for Bankruptcy.
Well done on Sharon for carrying out her pledge to remove funding.
Unlike SKS who has broke all 10 of his.
Good, because they were stupid pledges to have made.
Stupid to pledge ‘strengthen workers rights and trade unions’?
You think all 10 pledges were stupid but you still voted for him?
Oh well.
I voted for him full well knowing he would break them and I said so here at the time.
Clever boy you voted for a liar
Knowing in advance he was a liar.
The saying you get the Politicians you deserve has proven correct again in your case.
Julia Hartley-Brewer @JuliaHB1 · 1h I thought the whole point of the EU (or so EU leaders tell us) is that it's the bulwark against fascism and war returning to the continent of Europe...
Yet Italy, Austria, Germany and now France are going down the road to fascism, declaring war on their own people.
Terrifying.
===
Is mandatory vax fascism? Sounds like a good essay question for PPE at an Oxford college.
What I find pretty astonishing is that she ignores the fact that many non-EU places have also gone down the mandatory (or effectively mandatory) route.
In LA, you kids cannot attend a public school unless they are fully vaccinated. For all but the wealthiest parents, that's a mandatory vax requirement.
If the data/studies continue to show that Omicron has a really high infection rate (estimates of up to 5 times that of Delta) and can break through immunity both naturally occurred through exposure and to a slightly lesser degree vaccine acquired immunity then we could be in some major trouble this winter.
I could easily see a scenario of us having to implement more stringent measures to try and buy us time until a vaccine is tweaked to combat the variant.
I don't think you can rule out another lockdown...
Sarah Phelps @PhelpsieSarah I was a bit of a dick about doing the speed awareness course but I haven’t stopped thinking about it. Shocked by how much I drive like a stressy careless twat. Thinking about doing an advanced course or something like that so I’m not a car-twat. https://twitter.com/PhelpsieSarah/status/1466324421027770371
I did one earlier this year after being done for 27 mph in a 20 mph zone. Some interesting points, but I'm still bitter about the location.
In some ways driving is to easy - so people find they can all too easily drift off in their attention.
I drove through Hampton recently and I was so lucky that I was behind a local who knew it was a 20 limit. There are cameras both ways and they catch loads of people. Curiously, Google Street View is messed up just at bit where the cameras are:
For me, the issue is that driving is routine. We do it without incident for the vast majority of time.
Those 20 limits are an utter disgrace, in my opinion.
As per previous thread I hired a Ford Puma the other day which knew, and limited itself to, the speed limit. This was in Scotland where all towns seem to be 20 mph. Must have saved me several tickets.
That’s one of the reasons I love our Volvos. Their smart safety system must have saved me a fortune over the years. The cars have rock-solid info on all speed limit zones, and warn you if you’re going too fast when changing to a new zone.
Waze is almost as good, but maybe less user-friendly than an in-built system.
Our other car has no such system and I often find myself driving far too fast.
The mismatching cars can be a killer. I did £1500 damage to a land rover a few years ago because I expected it to have reversing sensors and it didn't. Thinking you have ABS when you haven't can also be problematic.
Snap.
Our Mini was the first of our cars in about ten years not to have reversing sensors. Various family members have now smashed the rear bumper on three occasions, so I can’t be bothered repairing the latest incident. It’s going in March anyway.
Weird, I've never had a car with reversing sensors.
Incidentally, I am holed up in a beautiful little cottage by the river Monnow in Craswall, west Herefordshire, with a suspected case of Omicron
No joke
Hope you feel better soon. Interesting as the Nature article posted by @Chris said that PCR tests were only to a degree able to identify Omicron. Who is doing the suspecting?
111 England
Tho they didn’t say “omicron” they just said “quite probably covid get tested immediately”
I’m the one making the leap, not just because I want to be a fashionable early adopter but because my symptoms are spookily like the ones described by South African GPs
I’m praying it’s just a bug, I can do without long Covid and quarantines
I just had this this week. Bed for 4 days. I did have loss of taste. Blood sats at 92-93% for 48 hrs. Breathy chest. PCR result - negative. This despite a quarter of my kids school teachers currently being off with covid. Most odd.
Take another test. Took two PCR tests to get a positive result in my case (by which time I had three positive LFTs). I think there is an issue with false negatives with PCRs.
Incidentally, I am holed up in a beautiful little cottage by the river Monnow in Craswall, west Herefordshire, with a suspected case of Omicron
No joke
Hope you feel better soon. Interesting as the Nature article posted by @Chris said that PCR tests were only to a degree able to identify Omicron. Who is doing the suspecting?
111 England
Tho they didn’t say “omicron” they just said “quite probably covid get tested immediately”
I’m the one making the leap, not just because I want to be a fashionable early adopter but because my symptoms are spookily like the ones described by South African GPs
I’m praying it’s just a bug, I can do without long Covid and quarantines
I just had this this week. Bed for 4 days. I did have loss of taste. Blood sats at 92-93% for 48 hrs. Breathy chest. PCR result - negative. This despite a quarter of my kids school teachers currently being off with covid. Most odd.
Have you done a PCR test before? If not (without disrespect to you personally) is there a chance you messed it up? I've had to do three and I've never been confident I got it right.
I’ve done a few but never got a positive. I made sure I got no saliva on it. Did it until my nose tickled but who knows if was high enough up there.
With all this money sloshing around the genomics industry, you sort of wish they’d take the chance to properly catalogue everything floating around.
Sarah Phelps @PhelpsieSarah I was a bit of a dick about doing the speed awareness course but I haven’t stopped thinking about it. Shocked by how much I drive like a stressy careless twat. Thinking about doing an advanced course or something like that so I’m not a car-twat. https://twitter.com/PhelpsieSarah/status/1466324421027770371
I did one earlier this year after being done for 27 mph in a 20 mph zone. Some interesting points, but I'm still bitter about the location.
In some ways driving is to easy - so people find they can all too easily drift off in their attention.
I drove through Hampton recently and I was so lucky that I was behind a local who knew it was a 20 limit. There are cameras both ways and they catch loads of people. Curiously, Google Street View is messed up just at bit where the cameras are:
For me, the issue is that driving is routine. We do it without incident for the vast majority of time.
Those 20 limits are an utter disgrace, in my opinion.
As per previous thread I hired a Ford Puma the other day which knew, and limited itself to, the speed limit. This was in Scotland where all towns seem to be 20 mph. Must have saved me several tickets.
That’s one of the reasons I love our Volvos. Their smart safety system must have saved me a fortune over the years. The cars have rock-solid info on all speed limit zones, and warn you if you’re going too fast when changing to a new zone.
Waze is almost as good, but maybe less user-friendly than an in-built system.
Our other car has no such system and I often find myself driving far too fast.
The mismatching cars can be a killer. I did £1500 damage to a land rover a few years ago because I expected it to have reversing sensors and it didn't. Thinking you have ABS when you haven't can also be problematic.
Snap.
Our Mini was the first of our cars in about ten years not to have reversing sensors. Various family members have now smashed the rear bumper on three occasions, so I can’t be bothered repairing the latest incident. It’s going in March anyway.
Weird, I've never had a car with reversing sensors.
If the data/studies continue to show that Omicron has a really high infection rate (estimates of up to 5 times that of Delta) and can break through immunity both naturally occurred through exposure and to a slightly lesser degree vaccine acquired immunity then we could be in some major trouble this winter.
I could easily see a scenario of us having to implement more stringent measures to try and buy us time until a vaccine is tweaked to combat the variant.
I don't think you can rule out another lockdown...
The government cannot, financially, cannot afford another lockdown.
Thanks for the kind remarks. I’m not dying (I hope) but it isn’t pleasant. The main symptoms are intense fatigue, chest pain and a dry, scratchy cough - plus general aches etc. I have slept 32 of the last 36 hours. Mad. These are the signs of Omicron as reported from SA. My senses of smell and taste are fine
I’ve ordered a PCR which should arrive tomorrow so then I’ll know. It’s certainly something best avoided - whatever it is
Sounds nasty. Drink plenty of water, take paracetamol and rest.
Also don't forget the oxygen sat test. That's the key indicator of if / when it might be getting worse (presuming you have COVID).
A Pulse Oximeter is a must have bit of kit these days. Not at all expensive and can save lives.
I\m old enough to remember when (about 5 days ago) you were calling me a panty-wetting hysteric for freaking out about Nu (this is so long ago it was still called Nu!) and I insisted that this fucker gave me bad vibes. You then said “it’s just another scare story from South Africa, wake me up when it’s causing hospital admissions”
Oh.
I change my mind when the facts change. What do you do?
Julia Hartley-Brewer @JuliaHB1 · 1h I thought the whole point of the EU (or so EU leaders tell us) is that it's the bulwark against fascism and war returning to the continent of Europe...
Yet Italy, Austria, Germany and now France are going down the road to fascism, declaring war on their own people.
Terrifying.
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Is mandatory vax fascism? Sounds like a good essay question for PPE at an Oxford college.
What I find pretty astonishing is that she ignores the fact that many non-EU places have also gone down the mandatory (or effectively mandatory) route.
In LA, you kids cannot attend a public school unless they are fully vaccinated. For all but the wealthiest parents, that's a mandatory vax requirement.
Yes, it's almost like she's a shouty, pig-ignorant, hyper-partisan troll.
Have we discussed the weird Scotsman poll? Sudden bounce for independence, now 55-45. Personal ratings Sturgeon +20, Sarwar +17 (also a bounce upwards), Ross -27, Johnson -64 (the lowest rating ever recorded by Ipsos-Mori) SNP 52 (+2), Con 19 (-1), Lab 17(-5!) constituency, 43/20/15 and Greens 12 regional. So a typical Scot is an Indy-loving, Sarwar-loving, Labour-hating voter.
Apparently.
Several times. Most recently when HYUFD insisted on counting the NDs against indy. But don't forget Mr Ross was caught not, erm,. bothering to declare his earnings from (a) his second apparently full time job as a representative in another parliament, AND his third job as a footie referee.
Edit: but that SLAB discrepancy is odd.
Scots look at Anas Sarwar and think he’s not too bad (compared to his predecessors). Then they look at their local Labour councillors and think “I’m not voting for that bunch of incompetent troughers”.
Might be other reasons for the latter, too, such as being second rate Tory Unionists (as in Aberdeen). But it's not as if, say, Mesdames/Messrs Murphy, Dugdale, Leonard etc. had the gravitas of, say, John Smith or Donald Dewar - or Wendy Alexander.
In retrospect, the much maligned Wendy was a giant compared to Lamont, Leonard, Murphy etc. She hugely pissed off her demented boss Gordon Brown, which cost her her job. But history has proven her right. And him stark raving.
Glad the killers of Arthur Labinjo-Hughes have been found guilty.
For all those who expend their energy worrying about the theoretical harm being done to trans kids, we’ll, there are some very real cases of extreme child abuse like Arthur’s that should worry us more.
Just my 2p.
Btw - serious fuckup by Solihull council social workers.
The odd point that I saw was he grandmother had photos but the social workers told her they didn’t want to see them
The social workers saw the photos and did a visit just 26 hours later - and then said they couldn't see any bruises on Arthur. They had a medical expert testify that it was impossible for the bruises to have cleared up that quickly.
This is a bit strange and something that the Independent investigation into social services that will now happen will doubtless look into.
Lessons Will Be learned.
Some junior people will get the boot.
Some senior people will have to be let go, provided that higher paying, more responsible jobs can be found for them. Some assistance will be required to help them carry their golden goodbye settlements.....
Cases like this do make you wonder why they keep on getting it so wrong, but then we only ever hear about the cases that go wrong enough to make the news. Maybe there are lots of kids saved from horrifying cruelty every day that obviously never get reported?
Whilst it's was disappointing but not altogether that surprising to see a *Labour* mayor condemn industrial action, it's welcome to see Sharon Graham step up to the plate on behalf of workers.
Whist it was disappointing to watch "Labour" Councillors in Sheffield cross a picket line in Sheffield its good to see see Sharon Graham step up to the plate divert funds from Labour to left wing causes that support workers
Whilst it was disappointing that a "Labour" leader decided to cosy up to business and stay almost completely silent on workers disputes its good to see see Sharon Graham step up to the plate and put Members monies direct to Socialist causes
If the data/studies continue to show that Omicron has a really high infection rate (estimates of up to 5 times that of Delta) and can break through immunity both naturally occurred through exposure and to a slightly lesser degree vaccine acquired immunity then we could be in some major trouble this winter.
I could easily see a scenario of us having to implement more stringent measures to try and buy us time until a vaccine is tweaked to combat the variant.
I don't think you can rule out another lockdown...
Hands up who is more scared of another lockdown than the virus itself?
Sarah Phelps @PhelpsieSarah I was a bit of a dick about doing the speed awareness course but I haven’t stopped thinking about it. Shocked by how much I drive like a stressy careless twat. Thinking about doing an advanced course or something like that so I’m not a car-twat. https://twitter.com/PhelpsieSarah/status/1466324421027770371
I did one earlier this year after being done for 27 mph in a 20 mph zone. Some interesting points, but I'm still bitter about the location.
In some ways driving is to easy - so people find they can all too easily drift off in their attention.
I drove through Hampton recently and I was so lucky that I was behind a local who knew it was a 20 limit. There are cameras both ways and they catch loads of people. Curiously, Google Street View is messed up just at bit where the cameras are:
For me, the issue is that driving is routine. We do it without incident for the vast majority of time.
Those 20 limits are an utter disgrace, in my opinion.
As per previous thread I hired a Ford Puma the other day which knew, and limited itself to, the speed limit. This was in Scotland where all towns seem to be 20 mph. Must have saved me several tickets.
That’s one of the reasons I love our Volvos. Their smart safety system must have saved me a fortune over the years. The cars have rock-solid info on all speed limit zones, and warn you if you’re going too fast when changing to a new zone.
Waze is almost as good, but maybe less user-friendly than an in-built system.
Our other car has no such system and I often find myself driving far too fast.
The mismatching cars can be a killer. I did £1500 damage to a land rover a few years ago because I expected it to have reversing sensors and it didn't. Thinking you have ABS when you haven't can also be problematic.
Snap.
Our Mini was the first of our cars in about ten years not to have reversing sensors. Various family members have now smashed the rear bumper on three occasions, so I can’t be bothered repairing the latest incident. It’s going in March anyway.
Weird, I've never had a car with reversing sensors.
I’m a huge fan.
I prefer to be a full aircon unit.
Not a full heat pump?
I have central heating.
My central heating is powered by the heat pump.
Is this in turn kept going by a huge fan?
Probably. I make a point of not concerning myself with the details of what goes on inside the big white box.
Julia Hartley-Brewer @JuliaHB1 · 1h I thought the whole point of the EU (or so EU leaders tell us) is that it's the bulwark against fascism and war returning to the continent of Europe...
Yet Italy, Austria, Germany and now France are going down the road to fascism, declaring war on their own people.
Terrifying.
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Is mandatory vax fascism? Sounds like a good essay question for PPE at an Oxford college.
What I find pretty astonishing is that she ignores the fact that many non-EU places have also gone down the mandatory (or effectively mandatory) route.
In LA, you kids cannot attend a public school unless they are fully vaccinated. For all but the wealthiest parents, that's a mandatory vax requirement.
Yes, it's almost like she's a shouty, pig-ignorant, hyper-partisan troll.
A friend (and fellow Tory activist of yesteryear) is a staunch Brexiteer and the only thing that has made him doubt his decision to vote Leave in 2016 is solely thanks to the likes of some his fellow Brexiteers engage in Covid-19 denialism and antivax nonsense that people like JHB engage in.
If the data/studies continue to show that Omicron has a really high infection rate (estimates of up to 5 times that of Delta) and can break through immunity both naturally occurred through exposure and to a slightly lesser degree vaccine acquired immunity then we could be in some major trouble this winter.
I could easily see a scenario of us having to implement more stringent measures to try and buy us time until a vaccine is tweaked to combat the variant.
I don't think you can rule out another lockdown...
The government cannot, financially, cannot afford another lockdown.
Thanks for the kind remarks. I’m not dying (I hope) but it isn’t pleasant. The main symptoms are intense fatigue, chest pain and a dry, scratchy cough - plus general aches etc. I have slept 32 of the last 36 hours. Mad. These are the signs of Omicron as reported from SA. My senses of smell and taste are fine
I’ve ordered a PCR which should arrive tomorrow so then I’ll know. It’s certainly something best avoided - whatever it is
Sounds nasty. Drink plenty of water, take paracetamol and rest.
Also don't forget the oxygen sat test. That's the key indicator of if / when it might be getting worse (presuming you have COVID).
Oximeters saved the lives of several relatives in Peru. And helped some good friends in this country. Who have now stopped making jokes about Foxy's list of items to buy that I spammed them with....
Incidentally, I am holed up in a beautiful little cottage by the river Monnow in Craswall, west Herefordshire, with a suspected case of Omicron
No joke
Hope you feel better soon. Interesting as the Nature article posted by @Chris said that PCR tests were only to a degree able to identify Omicron. Who is doing the suspecting?
111 England
Tho they didn’t say “omicron” they just said “quite probably covid get tested immediately”
I’m the one making the leap, not just because I want to be a fashionable early adopter but because my symptoms are spookily like the ones described by South African GPs
I’m praying it’s just a bug, I can do without long Covid and quarantines
I just had this this week. Bed for 4 days. I did have loss of taste. Blood sats at 92-93% for 48 hrs. Breathy chest. PCR result - negative. This despite a quarter of my kids school teachers currently being off with covid. Most odd.
Take another test. Took two PCR tests to get a positive result in my case (by which time I had three positive LFTs). I think there is an issue with false negatives with PCRs.
I sort of wonder what the point is now. Don’t feel great in the evenings on my chest but I’m hopefully on the mend. Not been fit to leave the house anyway and am on Day 7 tomorrow.
Thanks for the kind remarks. I’m not dying (I hope) but it isn’t pleasant. The main symptoms are intense fatigue, chest pain and a dry, scratchy cough - plus general aches etc. I have slept 32 of the last 36 hours. Mad. These are the signs of Omicron as reported from SA. My senses of smell and taste are fine
I’ve ordered a PCR which should arrive tomorrow so then I’ll know. It’s certainly something best avoided - whatever it is
Dude, that's just getting old.
Hah
This description of Omicron does sound exactly like my lurgy
If the data/studies continue to show that Omicron has a really high infection rate (estimates of up to 5 times that of Delta) and can break through immunity both naturally occurred through exposure and to a slightly lesser degree vaccine acquired immunity then we could be in some major trouble this winter.
I could easily see a scenario of us having to implement more stringent measures to try and buy us time until a vaccine is tweaked to combat the variant.
I don't think you can rule out another lockdown...
The government cannot, financially, cannot afford another lockdown.
The government cannot, politically, cannot afford another lockdown.
If the data/studies continue to show that Omicron has a really high infection rate (estimates of up to 5 times that of Delta) and can break through immunity both naturally occurred through exposure and to a slightly lesser degree vaccine acquired immunity then we could be in some major trouble this winter.
I could easily see a scenario of us having to implement more stringent measures to try and buy us time until a vaccine is tweaked to combat the variant.
I don't think you can rule out another lockdown...
Hands up who is more scared of another lockdown than the virus itself?
I'm not afraid of either.
Both are simply as Kinabalu is fond of saying "not happening events".
The virus is not a concern post-vaccines, let alone post-boosters.
Sunak and the 1922 won't tolerate another lockdown and Boris would be out on his ear, quite deservedly so, if one happened.
Julia Hartley-Brewer @JuliaHB1 · 1h I thought the whole point of the EU (or so EU leaders tell us) is that it's the bulwark against fascism and war returning to the continent of Europe...
Yet Italy, Austria, Germany and now France are going down the road to fascism, declaring war on their own people.
Terrifying.
===
Is mandatory vax fascism? Sounds like a good essay question for PPE at an Oxford college.
What I find pretty astonishing is that she ignores the fact that many non-EU places have also gone down the mandatory (or effectively mandatory) route.
In LA, you kids cannot attend a public school unless they are fully vaccinated. For all but the wealthiest parents, that's a mandatory vax requirement.
I fail to understand why you’re astonished at bogus journalism. That’s bog standard guff for those chancers.
Comments
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-03614-z
Oh.
Its clearly a legitimate goal. Unfortunate for United, but no more unfortunate than the goalkeeper being caught out of position.
No joke
There is no point having a shed full of Unite money if the trade off is vote losing and stupid Corbynista policies.
Without 150k members subs and a big reduction in Union monies SKS needs monies from supporters like yourself urgently.
Well done on Sharon for carrying out her pledge to remove funding.
Unlike SKS who has broke all 10 of his.
Then the rest of us can get elected and work to make the country we love better
https://twitter.com/NoonanJoe/status/1466137564679704591?t=-l0rYQWFjnRyif2UIX07HQ&s=19
Surely not more off topic than everything which preceded it!
Hope it is not serious.
How on Earth could he survive the shame?
You think all 10 pledges were stupid but you still voted for him?
Oh well.
He has lost 150k of those too and counting
Also, remember the most dangerous amount of alcohol is none.
In the last year for which numbers are published:
Unite political fund spent £9,474,000 out of which £7,607,000 went directly to the Labour party, £1,540,000 went indirectly to support the labour party and 372,000 did not go to the labour party. At the end of the year the Unite political fund had £16,462,000 in the bank about and an income of £7,200,000
link below:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/967153/795T_2019.pdf
Our Mini was the first of our cars in about ten years not to have reversing sensors. Various family members have now smashed the rear bumper on three occasions, so I can’t be bothered repairing the latest incident. It’s going in March anyway.
I’ve ordered a PCR which should arrive tomorrow so then I’ll know. It’s certainly something best avoided - whatever it is
I bet you are the sort of person that had to have the first batch of new iPads, got the tickets to the biggest premier,, having read that biggest selller before anyone has heard of it aren’t you?
I would love to see SKS and Evans plans to replace whatever proportion of the £8m that is withdrawn.
Wonder how much Murdoch and Blair are good for and what they will require in return.
Are you alone there? 😟. Don’t hesitate to call for help if you need it.
I’ve become a bit of a vaccine junkie in recent years. If they’ve got a vaccine for it, I want it. Latest was shingles, flu and yellow fever (which was the only one with unpleasant side-effects).
Arsenal are losing to some minor league club called Manchester United, anyone heard of them? No, me neither.
https://unherd.com/thepost/inside-australias-covid-internment-camp/
Tho they didn’t say “omicron” they just said “quite probably covid get tested immediately”
I’m the one making the leap, not just because I want to be a fashionable early adopter but because my symptoms are spookily like the ones described by South African GPs
I’m praying it’s just a bug, I can do without long Covid and quarantines
and now Unions are sick of funding a leader that doesnt suppport Union causes and withdrawing their financial support too
So far there is no alternative funding forthcoming but i am sure CHB will have a cunning plan?
Im wondering, It might be correct, but also may be out of date now, or simply a updating an old list and removing people who had not paid membership in a long time.
Other outstanding newer safety features:
Adaptive cruise control
Automatic braking
Lane change warners
Smart headlights
I’m also a full convert to automatic and AWD. Although when on holiday I love to hire a crapmobile with a dodgy manual gearbox and no A/C. Just wind down the windows and pump up the radio
The Best Western Hotel Group, a franchise operator, said mixed messaging from ministers had already damaged trade, with concerns Christmas 2021 would have to be “written off”, while one independent hotelier in Devon pleaded with government not to “hang hospitality out to dry”.
Of the 290 independently owned Best Western hotels in the UK, three-quarters have had an increase in Christmas cancellations and 89% have expressed concern about the festive trading period, the group said. About 70% have seen a decline in bookings since the Omicron variant emerged. More than two-thirds are worried businesses and individuals will still be wary about booking in the early part of next year.
The Dartmoor Lodge in Devon said diners had been pulling out of bookings at its restaurant. In a plea to the prime minister posted on Twitter, the family-owned hotel said: “Please don’t hang hospitality out to dry – we’ve had many cancellations of Xmas dining – don’t restrict and advise not to socialise without financial support.”
Several restaurant bookings for larger groups had been cancelled, a manager at the hotel said, including a conference with 40 people planned for Monday, although room bookings had not been affected.
Tim Rumney, the chief executive of Best Western GB, criticised confusing signals from government. “We have had a week of mixed messages about whether people should socialise or cancel parties or not and small, independent businesses like our hotels are on the frontline feeling the effects of that indecision.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/02/uk-hotels-hit-by-wave-of-cancellations-as-omicron-covid-variant-concerns-grow
This description of Omicron does sound exactly like my lurgy
https://twitter.com/igtamil/status/1466399361487626240?s=21
Knowing in advance he was a liar.
The saying you get the Politicians you deserve has proven correct again in your case.
Enjoy
In LA, you kids cannot attend a public school unless they are fully vaccinated. For all but the wealthiest parents, that's a mandatory vax requirement.
I could easily see a scenario of us having to implement more stringent measures to try and buy us time until a vaccine is tweaked to combat the variant.
I don't think you can rule out another lockdown...
With all this money sloshing around the genomics industry, you sort of wish they’d take the chance to properly catalogue everything floating around.
Whist it was disappointing to watch "Labour" Councillors in Sheffield cross a picket line in Sheffield its good to see see Sharon Graham step up to the plate divert funds from Labour to left wing causes that support workers
Whilst it was disappointing that a "Labour" leader decided to cosy up to business and stay almost completely silent on workers disputes its good to see see Sharon Graham step up to the plate and put Members monies direct to Socialist causes
https://www.ft.com/content/056c2bb6-1ba7-46ad-ab43-e5b21e1c379d
It can easily afford another lockdown. Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that, though.
Oximeters saved the lives of several relatives in Peru. And helped some good friends in this country. Who have now stopped making jokes about Foxy's list of items to buy that I spammed them with....
Long live SKS
Both are simply as Kinabalu is fond of saying "not happening events".
The virus is not a concern post-vaccines, let alone post-boosters.
Sunak and the 1922 won't tolerate another lockdown and Boris would be out on his ear, quite deservedly so, if one happened.