Watching this makes me feel pity for Greta. Who could let this happen to a little girl?
Must say, I do quite like the Australian style points based response to the "selfish, badly educated, virtue signalling little turds"
Patrick Moore @EcoSenseNow Watch as Sky News Australia rips a new one for Greta. This would never happen in Canada, USA, or Europe. Three Cheers!
Haven't followed the link as I'm immune to Blimpish clickbait. But it's interesting what hostility Greta arouses. Nearly everyone agrees she's got a point, though we can debate how far we need to go to turn the ship round before it hits the rocks. Instead of discussing that, let's have a go at a teenager...
But he wasn't having a go at a teenager, Greta.
He was having a go at teenagers, Australian teenagers.
Nick’s comment still applies.
It doesn't.
Modern western middle class teenagers have a very indulged and pampered lifestyle and most will struggle to maintain that when they have to fund it themselves.
Its not really their fault but rather that of their parents, who would be better advised saving money for their kids rather than spending so much on them.
It does - and your response is any event directed at their parents.
As far as Australia’s CO2 output is concerned, this has little or nothing to do with teenagers and their mobile phone usage - indeed there is already one state (Tasmania) with 100% renewable electricity. Being one of the world’s largest coal producers is rather more germane.
It is blimpish clickbait par excellence, and frankly embarrassing to watch.
Embarrassing because he points out some inconvenient truths ?
Without watching it again didn't he make points about aircon usage and travel by cars.
A more UK or US equivalent could also mention the amount of air travel the modern lifestyle includes.
If he feels so strongly about a consumerist lifestyle then surely he ought to be agreeing with their sentiments while fulminating about their behaviour ? No, it's just ignorant dyspepsia.
Oh I'm sure he lives it up and that his own upbringing wasn't something out of an Australian Hovis advert.
But so what - few of us fully match our deeds to our thoughts - and the fundamental point remains that the modern middle class teenager has a pampered, privileged lifestyle, A lifestyle, at least in the UK, they will struggle to maintain when they have to fund it themselves.
A lifestyle they will struggle to maintain after their rentier parents and grandparents have extorted sufficient rents and taxes from them.
Indeed.
Their parents and grandparents generations are indulging them at the wrong time and will exploit them at the wrong time.
The younger generation are having their current expectations raised and their future means reduced.
The younger generation will inherit more than any generation before them thanks to the assets and savings their parents and grandparents have built up
The expected age for someone born in the 1980s to lose their last parent is 64. Only in Tory HQ would that be considered young.
Don't forget they will also likely inherit something from their grandparents too in their teens, twenties or thirties
Not if their grandparents spaff it all on strippers and blow, oh and cruises
@HYUFD is single minded in protecting his inheritance but in our case we spent a lot of money on cruises and 7 round the world trips over the last 15 years with no thought to our family's hope of inheritance
Furthermore demanding one million inheritance tax free so you can buy a house in the south us the ultimate in selfish self interest
I am a conservative not a liberal and not a socialist and family is important to me. If you wish to spend all your children and grandchildrens' inheritance away that is your affair, however you live in North Wales where most young people on average incomes can afford to buy a house without assistance. That is not the case for those on average incomes in London and most of the South East and Home Counties so parents tend to be more prudent there in protecting the family savings and assets
I'm just wondering where you expect my dad to live to be able to give me my inheritance?
He would obviously be dead once you get your full inheritance
My mother in law is paying £1100 a week in her current care home. This comes off the value from her property until her assets drop to £27k (IIRC), when the LA start to foot bills. £1000 plus a week is the rule rather than the exception for care home costs.
For your plan to work your kinfolk will need to drop off the perch, compos mentis in their own home. If they fail that test when the time comes, you can whistle for your inheritance.
Some interesting numbers on Scotland's 2019 exports yesterday. Overall exports increased by £3.6bn which is pretty good but the breakdown is also interesting. Exports to rUK increased by £2.5bn to £52bn, an increase of 5%. Exports to the EU also increased by £420m to £16.4bn, an increase of 2.5%, which is less than those to the rest of the world which increased by £730m, an increase of 3.9%.
So, in the year before Brexit the rUK market became an even larger share of our exports and is now comfortably more than 3x the exports to the whole of the EU, a situation which is likely to have increased since. If you think about a choice between a SM with the EU and a SM with rUk there really isn't a rational choice.
One really does need a Brexiteer to explain rationality and export markets. What size is the export market from England to Scotland?
Don't know. In 2018 the rUK exports to Scotland were £63.91 bn and I expect them to have increased in 2019 so we are running a very serious trade deficit with them. This just reinforces the importance of the SM with rUK for Scotland in that it is inconceivable that we have trade barriers for such a volume of imports as would happen, of course, if we joined the EU SM.
How much did the UK export market to the EU figure in your journey to becoming a Brexiteer?
Not sure I understand the question. But if you mean how much did I worry about a possible reduction in exports to the EU as a result of Brexit the answer is not much. This was firstly because we run a serious and frankly unsustainable deficit with the EU so free trade has not been in our interests. Secondly because other exports to faster growing parts of the world were increasing more rapidly and thirdly because the UK as a whole has a large enough internal market to make the change of smaller importance. Only 1 of these 3 factors can possibly apply to Scotland.
Yuoi make the mistake of answering your own Tory question there David, unlike you to try and mimic Carlotta , ie Scotland bad. It is totally irrelevant as you say and not many in Scotland will be fooled with Tory lies.
I am not saying Scotland bad, I would never say that.
I am saying that our trading relationship with rUK is more than 3x as important to us as our trading relationship with the EU.
I am saying that the vast majority of our imports also come for rUK and any trade barriers in relation to that would be extremely damaging..
I am saying that Scotland is running a serious trade deficit (as is the UK in fairness) which would not be viable in the medium term and would require significant reductions in consumption.
I am saying that these latter factors are more important for a small economy like Scotland than they are for a larger economy such as the UK and are likely to come to a head faster.
I would also say that if Scotland seriously wants independence the first priority has to be to build a viable and self sustaining economy which lives within its means both in terms of public spending and balance of trade. It is unfortunate that this has been such a low priority for the Scottish government over the last 10 years. Their road to independence is paved with unsustainable freebies when it should have been focused on making us more competitive.
We agree on some points, though current Scottish Government being in any way interested in independence is not one of them. Just as you would not give your pay packet to your neighbour to run your family affairs it is unbelievable that in this day and age Scotland is still a colony being run by England. You only need to look to COP26 in coming weeks where the FM of Scotland will not be allowed into any of the discussions because we are not deemed to be a country and Bozo will select other people from England to accompany him , including the Queen of England to boot. You could not make it up , we will have despots , clowns and comic singers attending but Scotland is barred. We just get the inconvenience of traffic jams and our noses being rubbed in it every day. You may think that is great but I for one am not happy being a serf.
Sturgeon will be in attendance, as will no doubt other members of the Scottish government.
Despite there being reported clashes between Ms Sturgeon and Mr Johnson regarding the summit, Scotland’s First Minister will be attending COP26 in Glasgow. Mr Johnson went so far as to say that Ms Sturgeon will play a key role in the climate conference, as the leader of the Scottish government.
Watching this makes me feel pity for Greta. Who could let this happen to a little girl?
Must say, I do quite like the Australian style points based response to the "selfish, badly educated, virtue signalling little turds"
Patrick Moore @EcoSenseNow Watch as Sky News Australia rips a new one for Greta. This would never happen in Canada, USA, or Europe. Three Cheers!
Haven't followed the link as I'm immune to Blimpish clickbait. But it's interesting what hostility Greta arouses. Nearly everyone agrees she's got a point, though we can debate how far we need to go to turn the ship round before it hits the rocks. Instead of discussing that, let's have a go at a teenager...
But he wasn't having a go at a teenager, Greta.
He was having a go at teenagers, Australian teenagers.
Nick’s comment still applies.
It doesn't.
Modern western middle class teenagers have a very indulged and pampered lifestyle and most will struggle to maintain that when they have to fund it themselves.
Its not really their fault but rather that of their parents, who would be better advised saving money for their kids rather than spending so much on them.
It does - and your response is any event directed at their parents.
As far as Australia’s CO2 output is concerned, this has little or nothing to do with teenagers and their mobile phone usage - indeed there is already one state (Tasmania) with 100% renewable electricity. Being one of the world’s largest coal producers is rather more germane.
It is blimpish clickbait par excellence, and frankly embarrassing to watch.
Embarrassing because he points out some inconvenient truths ?
Without watching it again didn't he make points about aircon usage and travel by cars.
A more UK or US equivalent could also mention the amount of air travel the modern lifestyle includes.
If he feels so strongly about a consumerist lifestyle then surely he ought to be agreeing with their sentiments while fulminating about their behaviour ? No, it's just ignorant dyspepsia.
Oh I'm sure he lives it up and that his own upbringing wasn't something out of an Australian Hovis advert.
But so what - few of us fully match our deeds to our thoughts - and the fundamental point remains that the modern middle class teenager has a pampered, privileged lifestyle, A lifestyle, at least in the UK, they will struggle to maintain when they have to fund it themselves.
A lifestyle they will struggle to maintain after their rentier parents and grandparents have extorted sufficient rents and taxes from them.
Indeed.
Their parents and grandparents generations are indulging them at the wrong time and will exploit them at the wrong time.
The younger generation are having their current expectations raised and their future means reduced.
The younger generation will inherit more than any generation before them thanks to the assets and savings their parents and grandparents have built up
The expected age for someone born in the 1980s to lose their last parent is 64. Only in Tory HQ would that be considered young.
Don't forget they will also likely inherit something from their grandparents too in their teens, twenties or thirties
Not if their grandparents spaff it all on strippers and blow, oh and cruises
@HYUFD is single minded in protecting his inheritance but in our case we spent a lot of money on cruises and 7 round the world trips over the last 15 years with no thought to our family's hope of inheritance
Furthermore demanding one million inheritance tax free so you can buy a house in the south us the ultimate in selfish self interest
I am a conservative not a liberal and not a socialist and family is important to me. If you wish to spend all your children and grandchildrens' inheritance away that is your affair, however you live in North Wales where most young people on average incomes can afford to buy a house without assistance. That is not the case for those on average incomes in London and most of the South East and Home Counties so parents tend to be more prudent there in protecting the family savings and assets
I'm just wondering where you expect my dad to live to be able to give me my inheritance?
He would obviously be dead once you get your full inheritance
My mother in law is paying £1100 a week in her current care home. This comes off the value from her property until her assets drop to £27k (IIRC), when the LA start to foot bills. £1000 plus a week is the rule rather than the exception for care home costs.
For your plan to work your kinfolk will need to drop off the perch, compos mentis in their own home. If they fail that test when the time comes, you can whistle for your inheritance.
Apart from the 27k residual, right? That's certainly worth a lot more than a whistle.
Watching this makes me feel pity for Greta. Who could let this happen to a little girl?
Must say, I do quite like the Australian style points based response to the "selfish, badly educated, virtue signalling little turds"
Patrick Moore @EcoSenseNow Watch as Sky News Australia rips a new one for Greta. This would never happen in Canada, USA, or Europe. Three Cheers!
Haven't followed the link as I'm immune to Blimpish clickbait. But it's interesting what hostility Greta arouses. Nearly everyone agrees she's got a point, though we can debate how far we need to go to turn the ship round before it hits the rocks. Instead of discussing that, let's have a go at a teenager...
But he wasn't having a go at a teenager, Greta.
He was having a go at teenagers, Australian teenagers.
Nick’s comment still applies.
It doesn't.
Modern western middle class teenagers have a very indulged and pampered lifestyle and most will struggle to maintain that when they have to fund it themselves.
Its not really their fault but rather that of their parents, who would be better advised saving money for their kids rather than spending so much on them.
It does - and your response is any event directed at their parents.
As far as Australia’s CO2 output is concerned, this has little or nothing to do with teenagers and their mobile phone usage - indeed there is already one state (Tasmania) with 100% renewable electricity. Being one of the world’s largest coal producers is rather more germane.
It is blimpish clickbait par excellence, and frankly embarrassing to watch.
Embarrassing because he points out some inconvenient truths ?
Without watching it again didn't he make points about aircon usage and travel by cars.
A more UK or US equivalent could also mention the amount of air travel the modern lifestyle includes.
If he feels so strongly about a consumerist lifestyle then surely he ought to be agreeing with their sentiments while fulminating about their behaviour ? No, it's just ignorant dyspepsia.
Oh I'm sure he lives it up and that his own upbringing wasn't something out of an Australian Hovis advert.
But so what - few of us fully match our deeds to our thoughts - and the fundamental point remains that the modern middle class teenager has a pampered, privileged lifestyle, A lifestyle, at least in the UK, they will struggle to maintain when they have to fund it themselves.
A lifestyle they will struggle to maintain after their rentier parents and grandparents have extorted sufficient rents and taxes from them.
Indeed.
Their parents and grandparents generations are indulging them at the wrong time and will exploit them at the wrong time.
The younger generation are having their current expectations raised and their future means reduced.
The younger generation will inherit more than any generation before them thanks to the assets and savings their parents and grandparents have built up
The expected age for someone born in the 1980s to lose their last parent is 64. Only in Tory HQ would that be considered young.
Don't forget they will also likely inherit something from their grandparents too in their teens, twenties or thirties
Not if their grandparents spaff it all on strippers and blow, oh and cruises
@HYUFD is single minded in protecting his inheritance but in our case we spent a lot of money on cruises and 7 round the world trips over the last 15 years with no thought to our family's hope of inheritance
Furthermore demanding one million inheritance tax free so you can buy a house in the south us the ultimate in selfish self interest
I am a conservative not a liberal and not a socialist and family is important to me. If you wish to spend all your children and grandchildrens' inheritance away that is your affair, however you live in North Wales where most young people on average incomes can afford to buy a house without assistance. That is not the case for those on average incomes in London and most of the South East and Home Counties so parents tend to be more prudent there in protecting the family savings and assets
I'm just wondering where you expect my dad to live to be able to give me my inheritance?
He would obviously be dead once you get your full inheritance
My mother in law is paying £1100 a week in her current care home. This comes off the value from her property until her assets drop to £27k (IIRC), when the LA start to foot bills. £1000 plus a week is the rule rather than the exception for care home costs.
For your plan to work your kinfolk will need to drop off the perch, compos mentis in their own home. If they fail that test when the time comes, you can whistle for your inheritance.
Apart from the 27k residual, right? That's certainly worth a lot more than a whistle.
I think HY is looking for the entire property rather than just a mortgage downpayment.
Some interesting numbers on Scotland's 2019 exports yesterday. Overall exports increased by £3.6bn which is pretty good but the breakdown is also interesting. Exports to rUK increased by £2.5bn to £52bn, an increase of 5%. Exports to the EU also increased by £420m to £16.4bn, an increase of 2.5%, which is less than those to the rest of the world which increased by £730m, an increase of 3.9%.
So, in the year before Brexit the rUK market became an even larger share of our exports and is now comfortably more than 3x the exports to the whole of the EU, a situation which is likely to have increased since. If you think about a choice between a SM with the EU and a SM with rUk there really isn't a rational choice.
One really does need a Brexiteer to explain rationality and export markets. What size is the export market from England to Scotland?
Don't know. In 2018 the rUK exports to Scotland were £63.91 bn and I expect them to have increased in 2019 so we are running a very serious trade deficit with them. This just reinforces the importance of the SM with rUK for Scotland in that it is inconceivable that we have trade barriers for such a volume of imports as would happen, of course, if we joined the EU SM.
How much did the UK export market to the EU figure in your journey to becoming a Brexiteer?
Not sure I understand the question. But if you mean how much did I worry about a possible reduction in exports to the EU as a result of Brexit the answer is not much. This was firstly because we run a serious and frankly unsustainable deficit with the EU so free trade has not been in our interests. Secondly because other exports to faster growing parts of the world were increasing more rapidly and thirdly because the UK as a whole has a large enough internal market to make the change of smaller importance. Only 1 of these 3 factors can possibly apply to Scotland.
Yuoi make the mistake of answering your own Tory question there David, unlike you to try and mimic Carlotta , ie Scotland bad. It is totally irrelevant as you say and not many in Scotland will be fooled with Tory lies.
I am not saying Scotland bad, I would never say that.
I am saying that our trading relationship with rUK is more than 3x as important to us as our trading relationship with the EU.
I am saying that the vast majority of our imports also come for rUK and any trade barriers in relation to that would be extremely damaging..
I am saying that Scotland is running a serious trade deficit (as is the UK in fairness) which would not be viable in the medium term and would require significant reductions in consumption.
I am saying that these latter factors are more important for a small economy like Scotland than they are for a larger economy such as the UK and are likely to come to a head faster.
I would also say that if Scotland seriously wants independence the first priority has to be to build a viable and self sustaining economy which lives within its means both in terms of public spending and balance of trade. It is unfortunate that this has been such a low priority for the Scottish government over the last 10 years. Their road to independence is paved with unsustainable freebies when it should have been focused on making us more competitive.
We agree on some points, though current Scottish Government being in any way interested in independence is not one of them. Just as you would not give your pay packet to your neighbour to run your family affairs it is unbelievable that in this day and age Scotland is still a colony being run by England. You only need to look to COP26 in coming weeks where the FM of Scotland will not be allowed into any of the discussions because we are not deemed to be a country and Bozo will select other people from England to accompany him , including the Queen of England to boot. You could not make it up , we will have despots , clowns and comic singers attending but Scotland is barred. We just get the inconvenience of traffic jams and our noses being rubbed in it every day. You may think that is great but I for one am not happy being a serf.
Sturgeon will be in attendance, as will no doubt other members of the Scottish government.
Despite there being reported clashes between Ms Sturgeon and Mr Johnson regarding the summit, Scotland’s First Minister will be attending COP26 in Glasgow. Mr Johnson went so far as to say that Ms Sturgeon will play a key role in the climate conference, as the leader of the Scottish government.
After he said for many months that she'd be there over his dead body (paraphrased). I think that is a very strong indicator he sees the conference as likely to fail. Ditto Mr Drakeford coming as well.
Some interesting numbers on Scotland's 2019 exports yesterday. Overall exports increased by £3.6bn which is pretty good but the breakdown is also interesting. Exports to rUK increased by £2.5bn to £52bn, an increase of 5%. Exports to the EU also increased by £420m to £16.4bn, an increase of 2.5%, which is less than those to the rest of the world which increased by £730m, an increase of 3.9%.
So, in the year before Brexit the rUK market became an even larger share of our exports and is now comfortably more than 3x the exports to the whole of the EU, a situation which is likely to have increased since. If you think about a choice between a SM with the EU and a SM with rUk there really isn't a rational choice.
One really does need a Brexiteer to explain rationality and export markets. What size is the export market from England to Scotland?
Don't know. In 2018 the rUK exports to Scotland were £63.91 bn and I expect them to have increased in 2019 so we are running a very serious trade deficit with them. This just reinforces the importance of the SM with rUK for Scotland in that it is inconceivable that we have trade barriers for such a volume of imports as would happen, of course, if we joined the EU SM.
How much did the UK export market to the EU figure in your journey to becoming a Brexiteer?
Not sure I understand the question. But if you mean how much did I worry about a possible reduction in exports to the EU as a result of Brexit the answer is not much. This was firstly because we run a serious and frankly unsustainable deficit with the EU so free trade has not been in our interests. Secondly because other exports to faster growing parts of the world were increasing more rapidly and thirdly because the UK as a whole has a large enough internal market to make the change of smaller importance. Only 1 of these 3 factors can possibly apply to Scotland.
Yuoi make the mistake of answering your own Tory question there David, unlike you to try and mimic Carlotta , ie Scotland bad. It is totally irrelevant as you say and not many in Scotland will be fooled with Tory lies.
I am not saying Scotland bad, I would never say that.
I am saying that our trading relationship with rUK is more than 3x as important to us as our trading relationship with the EU.
I am saying that the vast majority of our imports also come for rUK and any trade barriers in relation to that would be extremely damaging..
I am saying that Scotland is running a serious trade deficit (as is the UK in fairness) which would not be viable in the medium term and would require significant reductions in consumption.
I am saying that these latter factors are more important for a small economy like Scotland than they are for a larger economy such as the UK and are likely to come to a head faster.
I would also say that if Scotland seriously wants independence the first priority has to be to build a viable and self sustaining economy which lives within its means both in terms of public spending and balance of trade. It is unfortunate that this has been such a low priority for the Scottish government over the last 10 years. Their road to independence is paved with unsustainable freebies when it should have been focused on making us more competitive.
We agree on some points, though current Scottish Government being in any way interested in independence is not one of them. Just as you would not give your pay packet to your neighbour to run your family affairs it is unbelievable that in this day and age Scotland is still a colony being run by England. You only need to look to COP26 in coming weeks where the FM of Scotland will not be allowed into any of the discussions because we are not deemed to be a country and Bozo will select other people from England to accompany him , including the Queen of England to boot. You could not make it up , we will have despots , clowns and comic singers attending but Scotland is barred. We just get the inconvenience of traffic jams and our noses being rubbed in it every day. You may think that is great but I for one am not happy being a serf.
Sturgeon will be in attendance, as will no doubt other members of the Scottish government.
Despite there being reported clashes between Ms Sturgeon and Mr Johnson regarding the summit, Scotland’s First Minister will be attending COP26 in Glasgow. Mr Johnson went so far as to say that Ms Sturgeon will play a key role in the climate conference, as the leader of the Scottish government.
After he said for many months that she'd be there over his dead body (paraphrased). I think that is a very strong indicator he sees the conference as likely to fail. Ditto Mr Drakeford coming as well.
So no Putin and no Xi, but we do have Nippy and Drakey. Planet saved!
Watching this makes me feel pity for Greta. Who could let this happen to a little girl?
Must say, I do quite like the Australian style points based response to the "selfish, badly educated, virtue signalling little turds"
Patrick Moore @EcoSenseNow Watch as Sky News Australia rips a new one for Greta. This would never happen in Canada, USA, or Europe. Three Cheers!
Haven't followed the link as I'm immune to Blimpish clickbait. But it's interesting what hostility Greta arouses. Nearly everyone agrees she's got a point, though we can debate how far we need to go to turn the ship round before it hits the rocks. Instead of discussing that, let's have a go at a teenager...
But he wasn't having a go at a teenager, Greta.
He was having a go at teenagers, Australian teenagers.
Nick’s comment still applies.
It doesn't.
Modern western middle class teenagers have a very indulged and pampered lifestyle and most will struggle to maintain that when they have to fund it themselves.
Its not really their fault but rather that of their parents, who would be better advised saving money for their kids rather than spending so much on them.
It does - and your response is any event directed at their parents.
As far as Australia’s CO2 output is concerned, this has little or nothing to do with teenagers and their mobile phone usage - indeed there is already one state (Tasmania) with 100% renewable electricity. Being one of the world’s largest coal producers is rather more germane.
It is blimpish clickbait par excellence, and frankly embarrassing to watch.
Embarrassing because he points out some inconvenient truths ?
Without watching it again didn't he make points about aircon usage and travel by cars.
A more UK or US equivalent could also mention the amount of air travel the modern lifestyle includes.
If he feels so strongly about a consumerist lifestyle then surely he ought to be agreeing with their sentiments while fulminating about their behaviour ? No, it's just ignorant dyspepsia.
Oh I'm sure he lives it up and that his own upbringing wasn't something out of an Australian Hovis advert.
But so what - few of us fully match our deeds to our thoughts - and the fundamental point remains that the modern middle class teenager has a pampered, privileged lifestyle, A lifestyle, at least in the UK, they will struggle to maintain when they have to fund it themselves.
A lifestyle they will struggle to maintain after their rentier parents and grandparents have extorted sufficient rents and taxes from them.
Indeed.
Their parents and grandparents generations are indulging them at the wrong time and will exploit them at the wrong time.
The younger generation are having their current expectations raised and their future means reduced.
The younger generation will inherit more than any generation before them thanks to the assets and savings their parents and grandparents have built up
The expected age for someone born in the 1980s to lose their last parent is 64. Only in Tory HQ would that be considered young.
Don't forget they will also likely inherit something from their grandparents too in their teens, twenties or thirties
Not if their grandparents spaff it all on strippers and blow, oh and cruises
@HYUFD is single minded in protecting his inheritance but in our case we spent a lot of money on cruises and 7 round the world trips over the last 15 years with no thought to our family's hope of inheritance
Furthermore demanding one million inheritance tax free so you can buy a house in the south us the ultimate in selfish self interest
I am a conservative not a liberal and not a socialist and family is important to me. If you wish to spend all your children and grandchildrens' inheritance away that is your affair, however you live in North Wales where most young people on average incomes can afford to buy a house without assistance. That is not the case for those on average incomes in London and most of the South East and Home Counties so parents tend to be more prudent there in protecting the family savings and assets
I'm just wondering where you expect my dad to live to be able to give me my inheritance?
He would obviously be dead once you get your full inheritance
My mother in law is paying £1100 a week in her current care home. This comes off the value from her property until her assets drop to £27k (IIRC), when the LA start to foot bills. £1000 plus a week is the rule rather than the exception for care home costs.
For your plan to work your kinfolk will need to drop off the perch, compos mentis in their own home. If they fail that test when the time comes, you can whistle for your inheritance.
Apart from the 27k residual, right? That's certainly worth a lot more than a whistle.
I think HY is looking for the entire property rather than just a mortgage downpayment.
I'm not sure he's being that restrictive. That would be a large sum for anyone saving for a deposit for a house.
Some interesting numbers on Scotland's 2019 exports yesterday. Overall exports increased by £3.6bn which is pretty good but the breakdown is also interesting. Exports to rUK increased by £2.5bn to £52bn, an increase of 5%. Exports to the EU also increased by £420m to £16.4bn, an increase of 2.5%, which is less than those to the rest of the world which increased by £730m, an increase of 3.9%.
So, in the year before Brexit the rUK market became an even larger share of our exports and is now comfortably more than 3x the exports to the whole of the EU, a situation which is likely to have increased since. If you think about a choice between a SM with the EU and a SM with rUk there really isn't a rational choice.
One really does need a Brexiteer to explain rationality and export markets. What size is the export market from England to Scotland?
Don't know. In 2018 the rUK exports to Scotland were £63.91 bn and I expect them to have increased in 2019 so we are running a very serious trade deficit with them. This just reinforces the importance of the SM with rUK for Scotland in that it is inconceivable that we have trade barriers for such a volume of imports as would happen, of course, if we joined the EU SM.
How much did the UK export market to the EU figure in your journey to becoming a Brexiteer?
Not sure I understand the question. But if you mean how much did I worry about a possible reduction in exports to the EU as a result of Brexit the answer is not much. This was firstly because we run a serious and frankly unsustainable deficit with the EU so free trade has not been in our interests. Secondly because other exports to faster growing parts of the world were increasing more rapidly and thirdly because the UK as a whole has a large enough internal market to make the change of smaller importance. Only 1 of these 3 factors can possibly apply to Scotland.
Yuoi make the mistake of answering your own Tory question there David, unlike you to try and mimic Carlotta , ie Scotland bad. It is totally irrelevant as you say and not many in Scotland will be fooled with Tory lies.
I am not saying Scotland bad, I would never say that.
I am saying that our trading relationship with rUK is more than 3x as important to us as our trading relationship with the EU.
I am saying that the vast majority of our imports also come for rUK and any trade barriers in relation to that would be extremely damaging..
I am saying that Scotland is running a serious trade deficit (as is the UK in fairness) which would not be viable in the medium term and would require significant reductions in consumption.
I am saying that these latter factors are more important for a small economy like Scotland than they are for a larger economy such as the UK and are likely to come to a head faster.
I would also say that if Scotland seriously wants independence the first priority has to be to build a viable and self sustaining economy which lives within its means both in terms of public spending and balance of trade. It is unfortunate that this has been such a low priority for the Scottish government over the last 10 years. Their road to independence is paved with unsustainable freebies when it should have been focused on making us more competitive.
We agree on some points, though current Scottish Government being in any way interested in independence is not one of them. Just as you would not give your pay packet to your neighbour to run your family affairs it is unbelievable that in this day and age Scotland is still a colony being run by England. You only need to look to COP26 in coming weeks where the FM of Scotland will not be allowed into any of the discussions because we are not deemed to be a country and Bozo will select other people from England to accompany him , including the Queen of England to boot. You could not make it up , we will have despots , clowns and comic singers attending but Scotland is barred. We just get the inconvenience of traffic jams and our noses being rubbed in it every day. You may think that is great but I for one am not happy being a serf.
Sturgeon will be in attendance, as will no doubt other members of the Scottish government.
Despite there being reported clashes between Ms Sturgeon and Mr Johnson regarding the summit, Scotland’s First Minister will be attending COP26 in Glasgow. Mr Johnson went so far as to say that Ms Sturgeon will play a key role in the climate conference, as the leader of the Scottish government.
After he said for many months that she'd be there over his dead body (paraphrased). I think that is a very strong indicator he sees the conference as likely to fail. Ditto Mr Drakeford coming as well.
Did he actually say that, or was it "reported" he said that?
Facebook’s claims that it regulates itself appear to be grossly dishonest.
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/facebook-knew-radicalized-users-rcna3581 … In summer 2019, a new Facebook user named Carol Smith signed up for the platform, describing herself as a politically conservative mother from Wilmington, North Carolina. Smith’s account indicated an interest in politics, parenting and Christianity and followed a few of her favorite brands, including Fox News and then-President Donald Trump.
Though Smith had never expressed interest in conspiracy theories, in just two days Facebook was recommending she join groups dedicated to QAnon, a sprawling and baseless conspiracy theory and movement that claimed Trump was secretly saving the world from a cabal of pedophiles and Satanists.
Smith didn’t follow the recommended QAnon groups, but whatever algorithm Facebook was using to determine how she should engage with the platform pushed ahead just the same. Within one week, Smith’s feed was full of groups and pages that had violated Facebook’s own rules, including those against hate speech and disinformation.
Smith wasn’t a real person. A researcher employed by Facebook invented the account, along with those of other fictitious “test users” in 2019 and 2020, as part of an experiment in studying the platform’s role in misinforming and polarizing users through its recommendations systems.
That researcher said Smith’s Facebook experience was “a barrage of extreme, conspiratorial, and graphic content.”
The body of research consistently found Facebook pushed some users into “rabbit holes,” increasingly narrow echo chambers where violent conspiracy theories thrived. People radicalized through these rabbit holes make up a small slice of total users, but at Facebook’s scale, that can mean millions of individuals.…
Watching this makes me feel pity for Greta. Who could let this happen to a little girl?
Must say, I do quite like the Australian style points based response to the "selfish, badly educated, virtue signalling little turds"
Patrick Moore @EcoSenseNow Watch as Sky News Australia rips a new one for Greta. This would never happen in Canada, USA, or Europe. Three Cheers!
Haven't followed the link as I'm immune to Blimpish clickbait. But it's interesting what hostility Greta arouses. Nearly everyone agrees she's got a point, though we can debate how far we need to go to turn the ship round before it hits the rocks. Instead of discussing that, let's have a go at a teenager...
But he wasn't having a go at a teenager, Greta.
He was having a go at teenagers, Australian teenagers.
Nick’s comment still applies.
It doesn't.
Modern western middle class teenagers have a very indulged and pampered lifestyle and most will struggle to maintain that when they have to fund it themselves.
Its not really their fault but rather that of their parents, who would be better advised saving money for their kids rather than spending so much on them.
It does - and your response is any event directed at their parents.
As far as Australia’s CO2 output is concerned, this has little or nothing to do with teenagers and their mobile phone usage - indeed there is already one state (Tasmania) with 100% renewable electricity. Being one of the world’s largest coal producers is rather more germane.
It is blimpish clickbait par excellence, and frankly embarrassing to watch.
Embarrassing because he points out some inconvenient truths ?
Without watching it again didn't he make points about aircon usage and travel by cars.
A more UK or US equivalent could also mention the amount of air travel the modern lifestyle includes.
If he feels so strongly about a consumerist lifestyle then surely he ought to be agreeing with their sentiments while fulminating about their behaviour ? No, it's just ignorant dyspepsia.
Oh I'm sure he lives it up and that his own upbringing wasn't something out of an Australian Hovis advert.
But so what - few of us fully match our deeds to our thoughts - and the fundamental point remains that the modern middle class teenager has a pampered, privileged lifestyle, A lifestyle, at least in the UK, they will struggle to maintain when they have to fund it themselves.
A lifestyle they will struggle to maintain after their rentier parents and grandparents have extorted sufficient rents and taxes from them.
Indeed.
Their parents and grandparents generations are indulging them at the wrong time and will exploit them at the wrong time.
The younger generation are having their current expectations raised and their future means reduced.
The younger generation will inherit more than any generation before them thanks to the assets and savings their parents and grandparents have built up
The expected age for someone born in the 1980s to lose their last parent is 64. Only in Tory HQ would that be considered young.
Don't forget they will also likely inherit something from their grandparents too in their teens, twenties or thirties
Not if their grandparents spaff it all on strippers and blow, oh and cruises
@HYUFD is single minded in protecting his inheritance but in our case we spent a lot of money on cruises and 7 round the world trips over the last 15 years with no thought to our family's hope of inheritance
Furthermore demanding one million inheritance tax free so you can buy a house in the south us the ultimate in selfish self interest
I am a conservative not a liberal and not a socialist and family is important to me. If you wish to spend all your children and grandchildrens' inheritance away that is your affair, however you live in North Wales where most young people on average incomes can afford to buy a house without assistance. That is not the case for those on average incomes in London and most of the South East and Home Counties so parents tend to be more prudent there in protecting the family savings and assets
I'm just wondering where you expect my dad to live to be able to give me my inheritance?
He would obviously be dead once you get your full inheritance
My mother in law is paying £1100 a week in her current care home. This comes off the value from her property until her assets drop to £27k (IIRC), when the LA start to foot bills. £1000 plus a week is the rule rather than the exception for care home costs.
For your plan to work your kinfolk will need to drop off the perch, compos mentis in their own home. If they fail that test when the time comes, you can whistle for your inheritance.
Apart from the 27k residual, right? That's certainly worth a lot more than a whistle.
I think HY is looking for the entire property rather than just a mortgage downpayment.
I'm not sure he's being that restrictive. That would be a large sum for anyone saving for a deposit for a house.
Well, are you sure? Anyway I'm off to Sytner BMW to blow that 27 grand.
Watching this makes me feel pity for Greta. Who could let this happen to a little girl?
Must say, I do quite like the Australian style points based response to the "selfish, badly educated, virtue signalling little turds"
Patrick Moore @EcoSenseNow Watch as Sky News Australia rips a new one for Greta. This would never happen in Canada, USA, or Europe. Three Cheers!
Haven't followed the link as I'm immune to Blimpish clickbait. But it's interesting what hostility Greta arouses. Nearly everyone agrees she's got a point, though we can debate how far we need to go to turn the ship round before it hits the rocks. Instead of discussing that, let's have a go at a teenager...
But he wasn't having a go at a teenager, Greta.
He was having a go at teenagers, Australian teenagers.
Nick’s comment still applies.
It doesn't.
Modern western middle class teenagers have a very indulged and pampered lifestyle and most will struggle to maintain that when they have to fund it themselves.
Its not really their fault but rather that of their parents, who would be better advised saving money for their kids rather than spending so much on them.
It does - and your response is any event directed at their parents.
As far as Australia’s CO2 output is concerned, this has little or nothing to do with teenagers and their mobile phone usage - indeed there is already one state (Tasmania) with 100% renewable electricity. Being one of the world’s largest coal producers is rather more germane.
It is blimpish clickbait par excellence, and frankly embarrassing to watch.
Embarrassing because he points out some inconvenient truths ?
Without watching it again didn't he make points about aircon usage and travel by cars.
A more UK or US equivalent could also mention the amount of air travel the modern lifestyle includes.
If he feels so strongly about a consumerist lifestyle then surely he ought to be agreeing with their sentiments while fulminating about their behaviour ? No, it's just ignorant dyspepsia.
Oh I'm sure he lives it up and that his own upbringing wasn't something out of an Australian Hovis advert.
But so what - few of us fully match our deeds to our thoughts - and the fundamental point remains that the modern middle class teenager has a pampered, privileged lifestyle, A lifestyle, at least in the UK, they will struggle to maintain when they have to fund it themselves.
A lifestyle they will struggle to maintain after their rentier parents and grandparents have extorted sufficient rents and taxes from them.
Indeed.
Their parents and grandparents generations are indulging them at the wrong time and will exploit them at the wrong time.
The younger generation are having their current expectations raised and their future means reduced.
The younger generation will inherit more than any generation before them thanks to the assets and savings their parents and grandparents have built up
The expected age for someone born in the 1980s to lose their last parent is 64. Only in Tory HQ would that be considered young.
Don't forget they will also likely inherit something from their grandparents too in their teens, twenties or thirties
Not if their grandparents spaff it all on strippers and blow, oh and cruises
@HYUFD is single minded in protecting his inheritance but in our case we spent a lot of money on cruises and 7 round the world trips over the last 15 years with no thought to our family's hope of inheritance
Furthermore demanding one million inheritance tax free so you can buy a house in the south us the ultimate in selfish self interest
I am a conservative not a liberal and not a socialist and family is important to me. If you wish to spend all your children and grandchildrens' inheritance away that is your affair, however you live in North Wales where most young people on average incomes can afford to buy a house without assistance. That is not the case for those on average incomes in London and most of the South East and Home Counties so parents tend to be more prudent there in protecting the family savings and assets
I'm just wondering where you expect my dad to live to be able to give me my inheritance?
He would obviously be dead once you get your full inheritance
My mother in law is paying £1100 a week in her current care home. This comes off the value from her property until her assets drop to £27k (IIRC), when the LA start to foot bills. £1000 plus a week is the rule rather than the exception for care home costs.
For your plan to work your kinfolk will need to drop off the perch, compos mentis in their own home. If they fail that test when the time comes, you can whistle for your inheritance.
Apart from the 27k residual, right? That's certainly worth a lot more than a whistle.
I think HY is looking for the entire property rather than just a mortgage downpayment.
I'm not sure he's being that restrictive. That would be a large sum for anyone saving for a deposit for a house.
Well, are you sure? Anyway I'm off to Sytner BMW to blow that 27 grand.
Are you sure? You are the one saying he's only talking about people receiving entire properties. I think that's far too restrictive an interpretation.
BREAKING — Erdogan orders the 10 ambassadors from the US and EU who called for the release of Osman Kavala to be declared as persona non-grata. Yes, Turkey is going to expel ambassadors from: US, Canada, France, Finland, Denmark, Germany, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Sweden.
Watching this makes me feel pity for Greta. Who could let this happen to a little girl?
Must say, I do quite like the Australian style points based response to the "selfish, badly educated, virtue signalling little turds"
Patrick Moore @EcoSenseNow Watch as Sky News Australia rips a new one for Greta. This would never happen in Canada, USA, or Europe. Three Cheers!
Haven't followed the link as I'm immune to Blimpish clickbait. But it's interesting what hostility Greta arouses. Nearly everyone agrees she's got a point, though we can debate how far we need to go to turn the ship round before it hits the rocks. Instead of discussing that, let's have a go at a teenager...
But he wasn't having a go at a teenager, Greta.
He was having a go at teenagers, Australian teenagers.
Nick’s comment still applies.
It doesn't.
Modern western middle class teenagers have a very indulged and pampered lifestyle and most will struggle to maintain that when they have to fund it themselves.
Its not really their fault but rather that of their parents, who would be better advised saving money for their kids rather than spending so much on them.
It does - and your response is any event directed at their parents.
As far as Australia’s CO2 output is concerned, this has little or nothing to do with teenagers and their mobile phone usage - indeed there is already one state (Tasmania) with 100% renewable electricity. Being one of the world’s largest coal producers is rather more germane.
It is blimpish clickbait par excellence, and frankly embarrassing to watch.
Embarrassing because he points out some inconvenient truths ?
Without watching it again didn't he make points about aircon usage and travel by cars.
A more UK or US equivalent could also mention the amount of air travel the modern lifestyle includes.
If he feels so strongly about a consumerist lifestyle then surely he ought to be agreeing with their sentiments while fulminating about their behaviour ? No, it's just ignorant dyspepsia.
Oh I'm sure he lives it up and that his own upbringing wasn't something out of an Australian Hovis advert.
But so what - few of us fully match our deeds to our thoughts - and the fundamental point remains that the modern middle class teenager has a pampered, privileged lifestyle, A lifestyle, at least in the UK, they will struggle to maintain when they have to fund it themselves.
A lifestyle they will struggle to maintain after their rentier parents and grandparents have extorted sufficient rents and taxes from them.
Indeed.
Their parents and grandparents generations are indulging them at the wrong time and will exploit them at the wrong time.
The younger generation are having their current expectations raised and their future means reduced.
The younger generation will inherit more than any generation before them thankys to the assets and savings their parents and grandparents have built up
The expected age for someone born in the 1980s to lose their last parent is 64. Only in Tory HQ would that be considered young.
Don't forget they will also likely inherit something from their grandparents too in their teens, twenties or thirties
Not if their grandparents spaff it all on strippers and blow, oh and cruises
@HYUFD is single minded in protecting his inheritance but in our case we spent a lot of money on cruises and 7 round the world trips over the last 15 years with no thought to our family's hope of inheritance
Furthermore demanding one million inheritance tax free so you can buy a house in the south us the ultimate in selfish self interest
You are very kind but our travels are over as we could not travel carefree anymore and we more importantly our health is not upto it
We daily thank the ' Good Lord ' for having given us the time and ability to travel to the four corners of our world and I would encourage everyone to travel as much as they can while they can and certainly have no heed to money they may hand down to their family at some time in the future
Life is to be lived and travel really does broaden the mind
If going on cruise ships broadens the mind, I can’t help but wonder what some of them must have like before they started….
I don't think anyone would disagree with the statement that traveling to other places broadens the mind.
It's true! I've travelled far and wide. Banff, Fraserburgh, Ellon. Once, I even went to Crathie! But I didn't like it, so I came home again.
Can you imagine how dull life would be if you stayed in your small village/town (or immediate vicinity if you are in a big city) all of your life?
I still meet people on the island who talk of their last visit to North Island, many years previous.
Travel broadens the mind, for sure. Especially independent travel.
Being on a cruise ship, perhaps not so much.
Just noticed the comment about cruise ships
Our 7 round the world trips did not include a cruise ship
Some interesting numbers on Scotland's 2019 exports yesterday. Overall exports increased by £3.6bn which is pretty good but the breakdown is also interesting. Exports to rUK increased by £2.5bn to £52bn, an increase of 5%. Exports to the EU also increased by £420m to £16.4bn, an increase of 2.5%, which is less than those to the rest of the world which increased by £730m, an increase of 3.9%.
So, in the year before Brexit the rUK market became an even larger share of our exports and is now comfortably more than 3x the exports to the whole of the EU, a situation which is likely to have increased since. If you think about a choice between a SM with the EU and a SM with rUk there really isn't a rational choice.
One really does need a Brexiteer to explain rationality and export markets. What size is the export market from England to Scotland?
Don't know. In 2018 the rUK exports to Scotland were £63.91 bn and I expect them to have increased in 2019 so we are running a very serious trade deficit with them. This just reinforces the importance of the SM with rUK for Scotland in that it is inconceivable that we have trade barriers for such a volume of imports as would happen, of course, if we joined the EU SM.
How much did the UK export market to the EU figure in your journey to becoming a Brexiteer?
Not sure I understand the question. But if you mean how much did I worry about a possible reduction in exports to the EU as a result of Brexit the answer is not much. This was firstly because we run a serious and frankly unsustainable deficit with the EU so free trade has not been in our interests. Secondly because other exports to faster growing parts of the world were increasing more rapidly and thirdly because the UK as a whole has a large enough internal market to make the change of smaller importance. Only 1 of these 3 factors can possibly apply to Scotland.
Yuoi make the mistake of answering your own Tory question there David, unlike you to try and mimic Carlotta , ie Scotland bad. It is totally irrelevant as you say and not many in Scotland will be fooled with Tory lies.
I am not saying Scotland bad, I would never say that.
I am saying that our trading relationship with rUK is more than 3x as important to us as our trading relationship with the EU.
I am saying that the vast majority of our imports also come for rUK and any trade barriers in relation to that would be extremely damaging..
I am saying that Scotland is running a serious trade deficit (as is the UK in fairness) which would not be viable in the medium term and would require significant reductions in consumption.
I am saying that these latter factors are more important for a small economy like Scotland than they are for a larger economy such as the UK and are likely to come to a head faster.
I would also say that if Scotland seriously wants independence the first priority has to be to build a viable and self sustaining economy which lives within its means both in terms of public spending and balance of trade. It is unfortunate that this has been such a low priority for the Scottish government over the last 10 years. Their road to independence is paved with unsustainable freebies when it should have been focused on making us more competitive.
We agree on some points, though current Scottish Government being in any way interested in independence is not one of them. Just as you would not give your pay packet to your neighbour to run your family affairs it is unbelievable that in this day and age Scotland is still a colony being run by England. You only need to look to COP26 in coming weeks where the FM of Scotland will not be allowed into any of the discussions because we are not deemed to be a country and Bozo will select other people from England to accompany him , including the Queen of England to boot. You could not make it up , we will have despots , clowns and comic singers attending but Scotland is barred. We just get the inconvenience of traffic jams and our noses being rubbed in it every day. You may think that is great but I for one am not happy being a serf.
Sturgeon will be in attendance, as will no doubt other members of the Scottish government.
Despite there being reported clashes between Ms Sturgeon and Mr Johnson regarding the summit, Scotland’s First Minister will be attending COP26 in Glasgow. Mr Johnson went so far as to say that Ms Sturgeon will play a key role in the climate conference, as the leader of the Scottish government.
After he said for many months that she'd be there over his dead body (paraphrased). I think that is a very strong indicator he sees the conference as likely to fail. Ditto Mr Drakeford coming as well.
Did he actually say that, or was it "reported" he said that?
I was just being metaphorical - entire tenor of UKG policy up until very recently.
Watching this makes me feel pity for Greta. Who could let this happen to a little girl?
Must say, I do quite like the Australian style points based response to the "selfish, badly educated, virtue signalling little turds"
Patrick Moore @EcoSenseNow Watch as Sky News Australia rips a new one for Greta. This would never happen in Canada, USA, or Europe. Three Cheers!
Haven't followed the link as I'm immune to Blimpish clickbait. But it's interesting what hostility Greta arouses. Nearly everyone agrees she's got a point, though we can debate how far we need to go to turn the ship round before it hits the rocks. Instead of discussing that, let's have a go at a teenager...
But he wasn't having a go at a teenager, Greta.
He was having a go at teenagers, Australian teenagers.
Nick’s comment still applies.
It doesn't.
Modern western middle class teenagers have a very indulged and pampered lifestyle and most will struggle to maintain that when they have to fund it themselves.
Its not really their fault but rather that of their parents, who would be better advised saving money for their kids rather than spending so much on them.
It does - and your response is any event directed at their parents.
As far as Australia’s CO2 output is concerned, this has little or nothing to do with teenagers and their mobile phone usage - indeed there is already one state (Tasmania) with 100% renewable electricity. Being one of the world’s largest coal producers is rather more germane.
It is blimpish clickbait par excellence, and frankly embarrassing to watch.
Embarrassing because he points out some inconvenient truths ?
Without watching it again didn't he make points about aircon usage and travel by cars.
A more UK or US equivalent could also mention the amount of air travel the modern lifestyle includes.
If he feels so strongly about a consumerist lifestyle then surely he ought to be agreeing with their sentiments while fulminating about their behaviour ? No, it's just ignorant dyspepsia.
Oh I'm sure he lives it up and that his own upbringing wasn't something out of an Australian Hovis advert.
But so what - few of us fully match our deeds to our thoughts - and the fundamental point remains that the modern middle class teenager has a pampered, privileged lifestyle, A lifestyle, at least in the UK, they will struggle to maintain when they have to fund it themselves.
A lifestyle they will struggle to maintain after their rentier parents and grandparents have extorted sufficient rents and taxes from them.
Indeed.
Their parents and grandparents generations are indulging them at the wrong time and will exploit them at the wrong time.
The younger generation are having their current expectations raised and their future means reduced.
The younger generation will inherit more than any generation before them thankys to the assets and savings their parents and grandparents have built up
The expected age for someone born in the 1980s to lose their last parent is 64. Only in Tory HQ would that be considered young.
Don't forget they will also likely inherit something from their grandparents too in their teens, twenties or thirties
Not if their grandparents spaff it all on strippers and blow, oh and cruises
@HYUFD is single minded in protecting his inheritance but in our case we spent a lot of money on cruises and 7 round the world trips over the last 15 years with no thought to our family's hope of inheritance
Furthermore demanding one million inheritance tax free so you can buy a house in the south us the ultimate in selfish self interest
You are very kind but our travels are over as we could not travel carefree anymore and we more importantly our health is not upto it
We daily thank the ' Good Lord ' for having given us the time and ability to travel to the four corners of our world and I would encourage everyone to travel as much as they can while they can and certainly have no heed to money they may hand down to their family at some time in the future
Life is to be lived and travel really does broaden the mind
If going on cruise ships broadens the mind, I can’t help but wonder what some of them must have like before they started….
I don't think anyone would disagree with the statement that traveling to other places broadens the mind.
It's true! I've travelled far and wide. Banff, Fraserburgh, Ellon. Once, I even went to Crathie! But I didn't like it, so I came home again.
Can you imagine how dull life would be if you stayed in your small village/town (or immediate vicinity if you are in a big city) all of your life?
I still meet people on the island who talk of their last visit to North Island, many years previous.
Travel broadens the mind, for sure. Especially independent travel.
Being on a cruise ship, perhaps not so much.
Just noticed the comment about cruise ships
Our 7 round the world trips did not include a cruise ship
The Royal yacht isn't available to most of us Big G.
Some interesting numbers on Scotland's 2019 exports yesterday. Overall exports increased by £3.6bn which is pretty good but the breakdown is also interesting. Exports to rUK increased by £2.5bn to £52bn, an increase of 5%. Exports to the EU also increased by £420m to £16.4bn, an increase of 2.5%, which is less than those to the rest of the world which increased by £730m, an increase of 3.9%.
So, in the year before Brexit the rUK market became an even larger share of our exports and is now comfortably more than 3x the exports to the whole of the EU, a situation which is likely to have increased since. If you think about a choice between a SM with the EU and a SM with rUk there really isn't a rational choice.
One really does need a Brexiteer to explain rationality and export markets. What size is the export market from England to Scotland?
Don't know. In 2018 the rUK exports to Scotland were £63.91 bn and I expect them to have increased in 2019 so we are running a very serious trade deficit with them. This just reinforces the importance of the SM with rUK for Scotland in that it is inconceivable that we have trade barriers for such a volume of imports as would happen, of course, if we joined the EU SM.
How much did the UK export market to the EU figure in your journey to becoming a Brexiteer?
Not sure I understand the question. But if you mean how much did I worry about a possible reduction in exports to the EU as a result of Brexit the answer is not much. This was firstly because we run a serious and frankly unsustainable deficit with the EU so free trade has not been in our interests. Secondly because other exports to faster growing parts of the world were increasing more rapidly and thirdly because the UK as a whole has a large enough internal market to make the change of smaller importance. Only 1 of these 3 factors can possibly apply to Scotland.
Yuoi make the mistake of answering your own Tory question there David, unlike you to try and mimic Carlotta , ie Scotland bad. It is totally irrelevant as you say and not many in Scotland will be fooled with Tory lies.
I am not saying Scotland bad, I would never say that.
I am saying that our trading relationship with rUK is more than 3x as important to us as our trading relationship with the EU.
I am saying that the vast majority of our imports also come for rUK and any trade barriers in relation to that would be extremely damaging..
I am saying that Scotland is running a serious trade deficit (as is the UK in fairness) which would not be viable in the medium term and would require significant reductions in consumption.
I am saying that these latter factors are more important for a small economy like Scotland than they are for a larger economy such as the UK and are likely to come to a head faster.
I would also say that if Scotland seriously wants independence the first priority has to be to build a viable and self sustaining economy which lives within its means both in terms of public spending and balance of trade. It is unfortunate that this has been such a low priority for the Scottish government over the last 10 years. Their road to independence is paved with unsustainable freebies when it should have been focused on making us more competitive.
We agree on some points, though current Scottish Government being in any way interested in independence is not one of them. Just as you would not give your pay packet to your neighbour to run your family affairs it is unbelievable that in this day and age Scotland is still a colony being run by England. You only need to look to COP26 in coming weeks where the FM of Scotland will not be allowed into any of the discussions because we are not deemed to be a country and Bozo will select other people from England to accompany him , including the Queen of England to boot. You could not make it up , we will have despots , clowns and comic singers attending but Scotland is barred. We just get the inconvenience of traffic jams and our noses being rubbed in it every day. You may think that is great but I for one am not happy being a serf.
Sturgeon will be in attendance, as will no doubt other members of the Scottish government.
Despite there being reported clashes between Ms Sturgeon and Mr Johnson regarding the summit, Scotland’s First Minister will be attending COP26 in Glasgow. Mr Johnson went so far as to say that Ms Sturgeon will play a key role in the climate conference, as the leader of the Scottish government.
After he said for many months that she'd be there over his dead body (paraphrased). I think that is a very strong indicator he sees the conference as likely to fail. Ditto Mr Drakeford coming as well.
So no Putin and no Xi, but we do have Nippy and Drakey. Planet saved!
He's obviously looking to spread the shite in the case of failure.
Watching this makes me feel pity for Greta. Who could let this happen to a little girl?
Must say, I do quite like the Australian style points based response to the "selfish, badly educated, virtue signalling little turds"
Patrick Moore @EcoSenseNow Watch as Sky News Australia rips a new one for Greta. This would never happen in Canada, USA, or Europe. Three Cheers!
Haven't followed the link as I'm immune to Blimpish clickbait. But it's interesting what hostility Greta arouses. Nearly everyone agrees she's got a point, though we can debate how far we need to go to turn the ship round before it hits the rocks. Instead of discussing that, let's have a go at a teenager...
But he wasn't having a go at a teenager, Greta.
He was having a go at teenagers, Australian teenagers.
Nick’s comment still applies.
It doesn't.
Modern western middle class teenagers have a very indulged and pampered lifestyle and most will struggle to maintain that when they have to fund it themselves.
Its not really their fault but rather that of their parents, who would be better advised saving money for their kids rather than spending so much on them.
It does - and your response is any event directed at their parents.
As far as Australia’s CO2 output is concerned, this has little or nothing to do with teenagers and their mobile phone usage - indeed there is already one state (Tasmania) with 100% renewable electricity. Being one of the world’s largest coal producers is rather more germane.
It is blimpish clickbait par excellence, and frankly embarrassing to watch.
Embarrassing because he points out some inconvenient truths ?
Without watching it again didn't he make points about aircon usage and travel by cars.
A more UK or US equivalent could also mention the amount of air travel the modern lifestyle includes.
If he feels so strongly about a consumerist lifestyle then surely he ought to be agreeing with their sentiments while fulminating about their behaviour ? No, it's just ignorant dyspepsia.
Oh I'm sure he lives it up and that his own upbringing wasn't something out of an Australian Hovis advert.
But so what - few of us fully match our deeds to our thoughts - and the fundamental point remains that the modern middle class teenager has a pampered, privileged lifestyle, A lifestyle, at least in the UK, they will struggle to maintain when they have to fund it themselves.
A lifestyle they will struggle to maintain after their rentier parents and grandparents have extorted sufficient rents and taxes from them.
Indeed.
Their parents and grandparents generations are indulging them at the wrong time and will exploit them at the wrong time.
The younger generation are having their current expectations raised and their future means reduced.
The younger generation will inherit more than any generation before them thankys to the assets and savings their parents and grandparents have built up
The expected age for someone born in the 1980s to lose their last parent is 64. Only in Tory HQ would that be considered young.
Don't forget they will also likely inherit something from their grandparents too in their teens, twenties or thirties
Not if their grandparents spaff it all on strippers and blow, oh and cruises
@HYUFD is single minded in protecting his inheritance but in our case we spent a lot of money on cruises and 7 round the world trips over the last 15 years with no thought to our family's hope of inheritance
Furthermore demanding one million inheritance tax free so you can buy a house in the south us the ultimate in selfish self interest
You are very kind but our travels are over as we could not travel carefree anymore and we more importantly our health is not upto it
We daily thank the ' Good Lord ' for having given us the time and ability to travel to the four corners of our world and I would encourage everyone to travel as much as they can while they can and certainly have no heed to money they may hand down to their family at some time in the future
Life is to be lived and travel really does broaden the mind
If going on cruise ships broadens the mind, I can’t help but wonder what some of them must have like before they started….
I don't think anyone would disagree with the statement that traveling to other places broadens the mind.
It's true! I've travelled far and wide. Banff, Fraserburgh, Ellon. Once, I even went to Crathie! But I didn't like it, so I came home again.
Can you imagine how dull life would be if you stayed in your small village/town (or immediate vicinity if you are in a big city) all of your life?
I still meet people on the island who talk of their last visit to North Island, many years previous.
Travel broadens the mind, for sure. Especially independent travel.
Being on a cruise ship, perhaps not so much.
Just noticed the comment about cruise ships
Our 7 round the world trips did not include a cruise ship
My apologies
One trip did include a cruise from Vancouver via Japan and South Korea to China
Watching this makes me feel pity for Greta. Who could let this happen to a little girl?
Must say, I do quite like the Australian style points based response to the "selfish, badly educated, virtue signalling little turds"
Patrick Moore @EcoSenseNow Watch as Sky News Australia rips a new one for Greta. This would never happen in Canada, USA, or Europe. Three Cheers!
Haven't followed the link as I'm immune to Blimpish clickbait. But it's interesting what hostility Greta arouses. Nearly everyone agrees she's got a point, though we can debate how far we need to go to turn the ship round before it hits the rocks. Instead of discussing that, let's have a go at a teenager...
But he wasn't having a go at a teenager, Greta.
He was having a go at teenagers, Australian teenagers.
Nick’s comment still applies.
It doesn't.
Modern western middle class teenagers have a very indulged and pampered lifestyle and most will struggle to maintain that when they have to fund it themselves.
Its not really their fault but rather that of their parents, who would be better advised saving money for their kids rather than spending so much on them.
It does - and your response is any event directed at their parents.
As far as Australia’s CO2 output is concerned, this has little or nothing to do with teenagers and their mobile phone usage - indeed there is already one state (Tasmania) with 100% renewable electricity. Being one of the world’s largest coal producers is rather more germane.
It is blimpish clickbait par excellence, and frankly embarrassing to watch.
Embarrassing because he points out some inconvenient truths ?
Without watching it again didn't he make points about aircon usage and travel by cars.
A more UK or US equivalent could also mention the amount of air travel the modern lifestyle includes.
If he feels so strongly about a consumerist lifestyle then surely he ought to be agreeing with their sentiments while fulminating about their behaviour ? No, it's just ignorant dyspepsia.
Oh I'm sure he lives it up and that his own upbringing wasn't something out of an Australian Hovis advert.
But so what - few of us fully match our deeds to our thoughts - and the fundamental point remains that the modern middle class teenager has a pampered, privileged lifestyle, A lifestyle, at least in the UK, they will struggle to maintain when they have to fund it themselves.
A lifestyle they will struggle to maintain after their rentier parents and grandparents have extorted sufficient rents and taxes from them.
Indeed.
Their parents and grandparents generations are indulging them at the wrong time and will exploit them at the wrong time.
The younger generation are having their current expectations raised and their future means reduced.
The younger generation will inherit more than any generation before them thanks to the assets and savings their parents and grandparents have built up
The expected age for someone born in the 1980s to lose their last parent is 64. Only in Tory HQ would that be considered young.
Don't forget they will also likely inherit something from their grandparents too in their teens, twenties or thirties
Not if their grandparents spaff it all on strippers and blow, oh and cruises
@HYUFD is single minded in protecting his inheritance but in our case we spent a lot of money on cruises and 7 round the world trips over the last 15 years with no thought to our family's hope of inheritance
Furthermore demanding one million inheritance tax free so you can buy a house in the south us the ultimate in selfish self interest
I am a conservative not a liberal and not a socialist and family is important to me. If you wish to spend all your children and grandchildrens' inheritance away that is your affair, however you live in North Wales where most young people on average incomes can afford to buy a house without assistance. That is not the case for those on average incomes in London and most of the South East and Home Counties so parents tend to be more prudent there in protecting the family savings and assets
I'm just wondering where you expect my dad to live to be able to give me my inheritance?
He would obviously be dead once you get your full inheritance
My mother in law is paying £1100 a week in her current care home. This comes off the value from her property until her assets drop to £27k (IIRC), when the LA start to foot bills. £1000 plus a week is the rule rather than the exception for care home costs.
For your plan to work your kinfolk will need to drop off the perch, compos mentis in their own home. If they fail that test when the time comes, you can whistle for your inheritance.
sounds like care homes cost about the same as cruising.
27k isnt a lot if there are 2 children and you arent getting it til you're 50+. not sure when the new rules the NI increase is meant to pay for eventually come in.
F1: decided that while I may pay attention to third practice, or not, I want to get the pre-qualifying tosh out of the way sooner rather than later so that'll be up some time in the next hour.
Unless I get attacked by a flange of flying baboons, obviously. In which case it will be longer.
Some interesting numbers on Scotland's 2019 exports yesterday. Overall exports increased by £3.6bn which is pretty good but the breakdown is also interesting. Exports to rUK increased by £2.5bn to £52bn, an increase of 5%. Exports to the EU also increased by £420m to £16.4bn, an increase of 2.5%, which is less than those to the rest of the world which increased by £730m, an increase of 3.9%.
So, in the year before Brexit the rUK market became an even larger share of our exports and is now comfortably more than 3x the exports to the whole of the EU, a situation which is likely to have increased since. If you think about a choice between a SM with the EU and a SM with rUk there really isn't a rational choice.
Exactly David, EU every time, just look at Ireland and any other normal small independent countries. They Are not colonies but can trade freely with who they wish and do not have massive hurdles put up to prevent them.
Maybe you've missed it Malcolm but the trading relationship between Ireland and Ulster has not exactly been straightforward, largely because Ireland is bound by SM rules and cannot trade "freely" on whatever terms suit them.
You were saying David............... and working both ways as well
Brexit Protocol brings huge cross-border trade boost with Northern Ireland exports up 61%
Watching this makes me feel pity for Greta. Who could let this happen to a little girl?
Must say, I do quite like the Australian style points based response to the "selfish, badly educated, virtue signalling little turds"
Patrick Moore @EcoSenseNow Watch as Sky News Australia rips a new one for Greta. This would never happen in Canada, USA, or Europe. Three Cheers!
Haven't followed the link as I'm immune to Blimpish clickbait. But it's interesting what hostility Greta arouses. Nearly everyone agrees she's got a point, though we can debate how far we need to go to turn the ship round before it hits the rocks. Instead of discussing that, let's have a go at a teenager...
But he wasn't having a go at a teenager, Greta.
He was having a go at teenagers, Australian teenagers.
Nick’s comment still applies.
It doesn't.
Modern western middle class teenagers have a very indulged and pampered lifestyle and most will struggle to maintain that when they have to fund it themselves.
Its not really their fault but rather that of their parents, who would be better advised saving money for their kids rather than spending so much on them.
It does - and your response is any event directed at their parents.
As far as Australia’s CO2 output is concerned, this has little or nothing to do with teenagers and their mobile phone usage - indeed there is already one state (Tasmania) with 100% renewable electricity. Being one of the world’s largest coal producers is rather more germane.
It is blimpish clickbait par excellence, and frankly embarrassing to watch.
Embarrassing because he points out some inconvenient truths ?
Without watching it again didn't he make points about aircon usage and travel by cars.
A more UK or US equivalent could also mention the amount of air travel the modern lifestyle includes.
If he feels so strongly about a consumerist lifestyle then surely he ought to be agreeing with their sentiments while fulminating about their behaviour ? No, it's just ignorant dyspepsia.
Oh I'm sure he lives it up and that his own upbringing wasn't something out of an Australian Hovis advert.
But so what - few of us fully match our deeds to our thoughts - and the fundamental point remains that the modern middle class teenager has a pampered, privileged lifestyle, A lifestyle, at least in the UK, they will struggle to maintain when they have to fund it themselves.
A lifestyle they will struggle to maintain after their rentier parents and grandparents have extorted sufficient rents and taxes from them.
Indeed.
Their parents and grandparents generations are indulging them at the wrong time and will exploit them at the wrong time.
The younger generation are having their current expectations raised and their future means reduced.
The younger generation will inherit more than any generation before them thanks to the assets and savings their parents and grandparents have built up
The expected age for someone born in the 1980s to lose their last parent is 64. Only in Tory HQ would that be considered young.
Don't forget they will also likely inherit something from their grandparents too in their teens, twenties or thirties
Not if their grandparents spaff it all on strippers and blow, oh and cruises
@HYUFD is single minded in protecting his inheritance but in our case we spent a lot of money on cruises and 7 round the world trips over the last 15 years with no thought to our family's hope of inheritance
Furthermore demanding one million inheritance tax free so you can buy a house in the south us the ultimate in selfish self interest
I am a conservative not a liberal and not a socialist and family is important to me. If you wish to spend all your children and grandchildrens' inheritance away that is your affair, however you live in North Wales where most young people on average incomes can afford to buy a house without assistance. That is not the case for those on average incomes in London and most of the South East and Home Counties so parents tend to be more prudent there in protecting the family savings and assets
I'm just wondering where you expect my dad to live to be able to give me my inheritance?
He would obviously be dead once you get your full inheritance
My mother in law is paying £1100 a week in her current care home. This comes off the value from her property until her assets drop to £27k (IIRC), when the LA start to foot bills. £1000 plus a week is the rule rather than the exception for care home costs.
For your plan to work your kinfolk will need to drop off the perch, compos mentis in their own home. If they fail that test when the time comes, you can whistle for your inheritance.
Apart from the 27k residual, right? That's certainly worth a lot more than a whistle.
I think HY is looking for the entire property rather than just a mortgage downpayment.
I'm not sure he's being that restrictive. That would be a large sum for anyone saving for a deposit for a house.
If not the whole house I do think he means a substantial percentage of it otherwise this is all academic. I don't think anyone is suggesting that a number of middle class families don't gift their children some money to help with the deposit and a few lucky ones will get a windfall. I certainly didn't, but my sister was gifted £15,000 from my parents to help her get on the ladder, but that isn't really what HYUFD is saying.
I don't know anyone who has inherited anything significant from a grandparent, nor anyone who has been given or inherited a substantial sum from their parents when they were still young. This only really applies to the very wealthy.
Also with DB pensions being a thing of the past people will be relying on their houses to provide an income in the future, particularly if they live a longtime and their drawdown pensions start looking a stretched. I will be as I have no other income, yet I would be considered very well off by most.
Watching this makes me feel pity for Greta. Who could let this happen to a little girl?
Must say, I do quite like the Australian style points based response to the "selfish, badly educated, virtue signalling little turds"
Patrick Moore @EcoSenseNow Watch as Sky News Australia rips a new one for Greta. This would never happen in Canada, USA, or Europe. Three Cheers!
Haven't followed the link as I'm immune to Blimpish clickbait. But it's interesting what hostility Greta arouses. Nearly everyone agrees she's got a point, though we can debate how far we need to go to turn the ship round before it hits the rocks. Instead of discussing that, let's have a go at a teenager...
But he wasn't having a go at a teenager, Greta.
He was having a go at teenagers, Australian teenagers.
Nick’s comment still applies.
It doesn't.
Modern western middle class teenagers have a very indulged and pampered lifestyle and most will struggle to maintain that when they have to fund it themselves.
Its not really their fault but rather that of their parents, who would be better advised saving money for their kids rather than spending so much on them.
It does - and your response is any event directed at their parents.
As far as Australia’s CO2 output is concerned, this has little or nothing to do with teenagers and their mobile phone usage - indeed there is already one state (Tasmania) with 100% renewable electricity. Being one of the world’s largest coal producers is rather more germane.
It is blimpish clickbait par excellence, and frankly embarrassing to watch.
Embarrassing because he points out some inconvenient truths ?
Without watching it again didn't he make points about aircon usage and travel by cars.
A more UK or US equivalent could also mention the amount of air travel the modern lifestyle includes.
If he feels so strongly about a consumerist lifestyle then surely he ought to be agreeing with their sentiments while fulminating about their behaviour ? No, it's just ignorant dyspepsia.
Oh I'm sure he lives it up and that his own upbringing wasn't something out of an Australian Hovis advert.
But so what - few of us fully match our deeds to our thoughts - and the fundamental point remains that the modern middle class teenager has a pampered, privileged lifestyle, A lifestyle, at least in the UK, they will struggle to maintain when they have to fund it themselves.
A lifestyle they will struggle to maintain after their rentier parents and grandparents have extorted sufficient rents and taxes from them.
Indeed.
Their parents and grandparents generations are indulging them at the wrong time and will exploit them at the wrong time.
The younger generation are having their current expectations raised and their future means reduced.
The younger generation will inherit more than any generation before them thankys to the assets and savings their parents and grandparents have built up
The expected age for someone born in the 1980s to lose their last parent is 64. Only in Tory HQ would that be considered young.
Don't forget they will also likely inherit something from their grandparents too in their teens, twenties or thirties
Not if their grandparents spaff it all on strippers and blow, oh and cruises
@HYUFD is single minded in protecting his inheritance but in our case we spent a lot of money on cruises and 7 round the world trips over the last 15 years with no thought to our family's hope of inheritance
Furthermore demanding one million inheritance tax free so you can buy a house in the south us the ultimate in selfish self interest
You are very kind but our travels are over as we could not travel carefree anymore and we more importantly our health is not upto it
We daily thank the ' Good Lord ' for having given us the time and ability to travel to the four corners of our world and I would encourage everyone to travel as much as they can while they can and certainly have no heed to money they may hand down to their family at some time in the future
Life is to be lived and travel really does broaden the mind
If going on cruise ships broadens the mind, I can’t help but wonder what some of them must have like before they started….
I don't think anyone would disagree with the statement that traveling to other places broadens the mind.
It's true! I've travelled far and wide. Banff, Fraserburgh, Ellon. Once, I even went to Crathie! But I didn't like it, so I came home again.
Can you imagine how dull life would be if you stayed in your small village/town (or immediate vicinity if you are in a big city) all of your life?
I still meet people on the island who talk of their last visit to North Island, many years previous.
Travel broadens the mind, for sure. Especially independent travel.
Being on a cruise ship, perhaps not so much.
Just noticed the comment about cruise ships
Our 7 round the world trips did not include a cruise ship
The Royal yacht isn't available to most of us Big G.
PS. When are you going to embrace S Wales?
I have been on the royal yacht at its home in Edinburgh and it is so small compared to a modern cruise ship
We have holidayed in Pembrokeshire but Cardiff holds little attraction to us and it is easier to go to London than Cardiff
Watching this makes me feel pity for Greta. Who could let this happen to a little girl?
Must say, I do quite like the Australian style points based response to the "selfish, badly educated, virtue signalling little turds"
Patrick Moore @EcoSenseNow Watch as Sky News Australia rips a new one for Greta. This would never happen in Canada, USA, or Europe. Three Cheers!
Haven't followed the link as I'm immune to Blimpish clickbait. But it's interesting what hostility Greta arouses. Nearly everyone agrees she's got a point, though we can debate how far we need to go to turn the ship round before it hits the rocks. Instead of discussing that, let's have a go at a teenager...
But he wasn't having a go at a teenager, Greta.
He was having a go at teenagers, Australian teenagers.
Nick’s comment still applies.
It doesn't.
Modern western middle class teenagers have a very indulged and pampered lifestyle and most will struggle to maintain that when they have to fund it themselves.
Its not really their fault but rather that of their parents, who would be better advised saving money for their kids rather than spending so much on them.
It does - and your response is any event directed at their parents.
As far as Australia’s CO2 output is concerned, this has little or nothing to do with teenagers and their mobile phone usage - indeed there is already one state (Tasmania) with 100% renewable electricity. Being one of the world’s largest coal producers is rather more germane.
It is blimpish clickbait par excellence, and frankly embarrassing to watch.
Embarrassing because he points out some inconvenient truths ?
Without watching it again didn't he make points about aircon usage and travel by cars.
A more UK or US equivalent could also mention the amount of air travel the modern lifestyle includes.
If he feels so strongly about a consumerist lifestyle then surely he ought to be agreeing with their sentiments while fulminating about their behaviour ? No, it's just ignorant dyspepsia.
Oh I'm sure he lives it up and that his own upbringing wasn't something out of an Australian Hovis advert.
But so what - few of us fully match our deeds to our thoughts - and the fundamental point remains that the modern middle class teenager has a pampered, privileged lifestyle, A lifestyle, at least in the UK, they will struggle to maintain when they have to fund it themselves.
A lifestyle they will struggle to maintain after their rentier parents and grandparents have extorted sufficient rents and taxes from them.
Indeed.
Their parents and grandparents generations are indulging them at the wrong time and will exploit them at the wrong time.
The younger generation are having their current expectations raised and their future means reduced.
The younger generation will inherit more than any generation before them thankys to the assets and savings their parents and grandparents have built up
The expected age for someone born in the 1980s to lose their last parent is 64. Only in Tory HQ would that be considered young.
Don't forget they will also likely inherit something from their grandparents too in their teens, twenties or thirties
Not if their grandparents spaff it all on strippers and blow, oh and cruises
@HYUFD is single minded in protecting his inheritance but in our case we spent a lot of money on cruises and 7 round the world trips over the last 15 years with no thought to our family's hope of inheritance
Furthermore demanding one million inheritance tax free so you can buy a house in the south us the ultimate in selfish self interest
You are very kind but our travels are over as we could not travel carefree anymore and we more importantly our health is not upto it
We daily thank the ' Good Lord ' for having given us the time and ability to travel to the four corners of our world and I would encourage everyone to travel as much as they can while they can and certainly have no heed to money they may hand down to their family at some time in the future
Life is to be lived and travel really does broaden the mind
If going on cruise ships broadens the mind, I can’t help but wonder what some of them must have like before they started….
I don't think anyone would disagree with the statement that traveling to other places broadens the mind.
It's true! I've travelled far and wide. Banff, Fraserburgh, Ellon. Once, I even went to Crathie! But I didn't like it, so I came home again.
Can you imagine how dull life would be if you stayed in your small village/town (or immediate vicinity if you are in a big city) all of your life?
I still meet people on the island who talk of their last visit to North Island, many years previous.
Travel broadens the mind, for sure. Especially independent travel.
Being on a cruise ship, perhaps not so much.
Just noticed the comment about cruise ships
Our 7 round the world trips did not include a cruise ship
My apologies
One trip did include a cruise from Vancouver via Japan and South Korea to China
Nothing wrong with cruising BigG (except for the environment of course for which it is awful). Horses for courses. However personally I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole, but who am I to judge. People think I am mad going on cycling holidays.
Some interesting numbers on Scotland's 2019 exports yesterday. Overall exports increased by £3.6bn which is pretty good but the breakdown is also interesting. Exports to rUK increased by £2.5bn to £52bn, an increase of 5%. Exports to the EU also increased by £420m to £16.4bn, an increase of 2.5%, which is less than those to the rest of the world which increased by £730m, an increase of 3.9%.
So, in the year before Brexit the rUK market became an even larger share of our exports and is now comfortably more than 3x the exports to the whole of the EU, a situation which is likely to have increased since. If you think about a choice between a SM with the EU and a SM with rUk there really isn't a rational choice.
One really does need a Brexiteer to explain rationality and export markets. What size is the export market from England to Scotland?
Don't know. In 2018 the rUK exports to Scotland were £63.91 bn and I expect them to have increased in 2019 so we are running a very serious trade deficit with them. This just reinforces the importance of the SM with rUK for Scotland in that it is inconceivable that we have trade barriers for such a volume of imports as would happen, of course, if we joined the EU SM.
How much did the UK export market to the EU figure in your journey to becoming a Brexiteer?
Not sure I understand the question. But if you mean how much did I worry about a possible reduction in exports to the EU as a result of Brexit the answer is not much. This was firstly because we run a serious and frankly unsustainable deficit with the EU so free trade has not been in our interests. Secondly because other exports to faster growing parts of the world were increasing more rapidly and thirdly because the UK as a whole has a large enough internal market to make the change of smaller importance. Only 1 of these 3 factors can possibly apply to Scotland.
Yuoi make the mistake of answering your own Tory question there David, unlike you to try and mimic Carlotta , ie Scotland bad. It is totally irrelevant as you say and not many in Scotland will be fooled with Tory lies.
I am not saying Scotland bad, I would never say that.
I am saying that our trading relationship with rUK is more than 3x as important to us as our trading relationship with the EU.
I am saying that the vast majority of our imports also come for rUK and any trade barriers in relation to that would be extremely damaging..
I am saying that Scotland is running a serious trade deficit (as is the UK in fairness) which would not be viable in the medium term and would require significant reductions in consumption.
I am saying that these latter factors are more important for a small economy like Scotland than they are for a larger economy such as the UK and are likely to come to a head faster.
I would also say that if Scotland seriously wants independence the first priority has to be to build a viable and self sustaining economy which lives within its means both in terms of public spending and balance of trade. It is unfortunate that this has been such a low priority for the Scottish government over the last 10 years. Their road to independence is paved with unsustainable freebies when it should have been focused on making us more competitive.
We agree on some points, though current Scottish Government being in any way interested in independence is not one of them. Just as you would not give your pay packet to your neighbour to run your family affairs it is unbelievable that in this day and age Scotland is still a colony being run by England. You only need to look to COP26 in coming weeks where the FM of Scotland will not be allowed into any of the discussions because we are not deemed to be a country and Bozo will select other people from England to accompany him , including the Queen of England to boot. You could not make it up , we will have despots , clowns and comic singers attending but Scotland is barred. We just get the inconvenience of traffic jams and our noses being rubbed in it every day. You may think that is great but I for one am not happy being a serf.
Sturgeon will be in attendance, as will no doubt other members of the Scottish government.
Despite there being reported clashes between Ms Sturgeon and Mr Johnson regarding the summit, Scotland’s First Minister will be attending COP26 in Glasgow. Mr Johnson went so far as to say that Ms Sturgeon will play a key role in the climate conference, as the leader of the Scottish government.
After he said for many months that she'd be there over his dead body (paraphrased). I think that is a very strong indicator he sees the conference as likely to fail. Ditto Mr Drakeford coming as well.
Did he actually say that, or was it "reported" he said that?
I was just being metaphorical - entire tenor of UKG policy up until very recently.
A very long-winded way of saying that he didn't! There's a world of difference between seeking to avoid the thing being used as an advert for independence and blocking her from attending.
Watching this makes me feel pity for Greta. Who could let this happen to a little girl?
Must say, I do quite like the Australian style points based response to the "selfish, badly educated, virtue signalling little turds"
Patrick Moore @EcoSenseNow Watch as Sky News Australia rips a new one for Greta. This would never happen in Canada, USA, or Europe. Three Cheers!
Haven't followed the link as I'm immune to Blimpish clickbait. But it's interesting what hostility Greta arouses. Nearly everyone agrees she's got a point, though we can debate how far we need to go to turn the ship round before it hits the rocks. Instead of discussing that, let's have a go at a teenager...
But he wasn't having a go at a teenager, Greta.
He was having a go at teenagers, Australian teenagers.
Nick’s comment still applies.
It doesn't.
Modern western middle class teenagers have a very indulged and pampered lifestyle and most will struggle to maintain that when they have to fund it themselves.
Its not really their fault but rather that of their parents, who would be better advised saving money for their kids rather than spending so much on them.
It does - and your response is any event directed at their parents.
As far as Australia’s CO2 output is concerned, this has little or nothing to do with teenagers and their mobile phone usage - indeed there is already one state (Tasmania) with 100% renewable electricity. Being one of the world’s largest coal producers is rather more germane.
It is blimpish clickbait par excellence, and frankly embarrassing to watch.
Embarrassing because he points out some inconvenient truths ?
Without watching it again didn't he make points about aircon usage and travel by cars.
A more UK or US equivalent could also mention the amount of air travel the modern lifestyle includes.
If he feels so strongly about a consumerist lifestyle then surely he ought to be agreeing with their sentiments while fulminating about their behaviour ? No, it's just ignorant dyspepsia.
Oh I'm sure he lives it up and that his own upbringing wasn't something out of an Australian Hovis advert.
But so what - few of us fully match our deeds to our thoughts - and the fundamental point remains that the modern middle class teenager has a pampered, privileged lifestyle, A lifestyle, at least in the UK, they will struggle to maintain when they have to fund it themselves.
A lifestyle they will struggle to maintain after their rentier parents and grandparents have extorted sufficient rents and taxes from them.
Indeed.
Their parents and grandparents generations are indulging them at the wrong time and will exploit them at the wrong time.
The younger generation are having their current expectations raised and their future means reduced.
The younger generation will inherit more than any generation before them thankys to the assets and savings their parents and grandparents have built up
The expected age for someone born in the 1980s to lose their last parent is 64. Only in Tory HQ would that be considered young.
Don't forget they will also likely inherit something from their grandparents too in their teens, twenties or thirties
Not if their grandparents spaff it all on strippers and blow, oh and cruises
@HYUFD is single minded in protecting his inheritance but in our case we spent a lot of money on cruises and 7 round the world trips over the last 15 years with no thought to our family's hope of inheritance
Furthermore demanding one million inheritance tax free so you can buy a house in the south us the ultimate in selfish self interest
You are very kind but our travels are over as we could not travel carefree anymore and we more importantly our health is not upto it
We daily thank the ' Good Lord ' for having given us the time and ability to travel to the four corners of our world and I would encourage everyone to travel as much as they can while they can and certainly have no heed to money they may hand down to their family at some time in the future
Life is to be lived and travel really does broaden the mind
If going on cruise ships broadens the mind, I can’t help but wonder what some of them must have like before they started….
I don't think anyone would disagree with the statement that traveling to other places broadens the mind.
It's true! I've travelled far and wide. Banff, Fraserburgh, Ellon. Once, I even went to Crathie! But I didn't like it, so I came home again.
Can you imagine how dull life would be if you stayed in your small village/town (or immediate vicinity if you are in a big city) all of your life?
I still meet people on the island who talk of their last visit to North Island, many years previous.
Travel broadens the mind, for sure. Especially independent travel.
Being on a cruise ship, perhaps not so much.
Just noticed the comment about cruise ships
Our 7 round the world trips did not include a cruise ship
The Royal yacht isn't available to most of us Big G.
PS. When are you going to embrace S Wales?
I have been on the royal yacht at its home in Edinburgh and it is so small compared to a modern cruise ship
We have holidayed in Pembrokeshire but Cardiff holds little attraction to us and it is easier to go to London than Cardiff
A subterfuge surely! You didn't get called Big G for nothing.. The borders shake
Watching this makes me feel pity for Greta. Who could let this happen to a little girl?
Must say, I do quite like the Australian style points based response to the "selfish, badly educated, virtue signalling little turds"
Patrick Moore @EcoSenseNow Watch as Sky News Australia rips a new one for Greta. This would never happen in Canada, USA, or Europe. Three Cheers!
Haven't followed the link as I'm immune to Blimpish clickbait. But it's interesting what hostility Greta arouses. Nearly everyone agrees she's got a point, though we can debate how far we need to go to turn the ship round before it hits the rocks. Instead of discussing that, let's have a go at a teenager...
But he wasn't having a go at a teenager, Greta.
He was having a go at teenagers, Australian teenagers.
Nick’s comment still applies.
It doesn't.
Modern western middle class teenagers have a very indulged and pampered lifestyle and most will struggle to maintain that when they have to fund it themselves.
Its not really their fault but rather that of their parents, who would be better advised saving money for their kids rather than spending so much on them.
It does - and your response is any event directed at their parents.
As far as Australia’s CO2 output is concerned, this has little or nothing to do with teenagers and their mobile phone usage - indeed there is already one state (Tasmania) with 100% renewable electricity. Being one of the world’s largest coal producers is rather more germane.
It is blimpish clickbait par excellence, and frankly embarrassing to watch.
Embarrassing because he points out some inconvenient truths ?
Without watching it again didn't he make points about aircon usage and travel by cars.
A more UK or US equivalent could also mention the amount of air travel the modern lifestyle includes.
If he feels so strongly about a consumerist lifestyle then surely he ought to be agreeing with their sentiments while fulminating about their behaviour ? No, it's just ignorant dyspepsia.
Oh I'm sure he lives it up and that his own upbringing wasn't something out of an Australian Hovis advert.
But so what - few of us fully match our deeds to our thoughts - and the fundamental point remains that the modern middle class teenager has a pampered, privileged lifestyle, A lifestyle, at least in the UK, they will struggle to maintain when they have to fund it themselves.
A lifestyle they will struggle to maintain after their rentier parents and grandparents have extorted sufficient rents and taxes from them.
Indeed.
Their parents and grandparents generations are indulging them at the wrong time and will exploit them at the wrong time.
The younger generation are having their current expectations raised and their future means reduced.
The younger generation will inherit more than any generation before them thanks to the assets and savings their parents and grandparents have built up
The expected age for someone born in the 1980s to lose their last parent is 64. Only in Tory HQ would that be considered young.
Don't forget they will also likely inherit something from their grandparents too in their teens, twenties or thirties
Not if their grandparents spaff it all on strippers and blow, oh and cruises
@HYUFD is single minded in protecting his inheritance but in our case we spent a lot of money on cruises and 7 round the world trips over the last 15 years with no thought to our family's hope of inheritance
Furthermore demanding one million inheritance tax free so you can buy a house in the south us the ultimate in selfish self interest
I am a conservative not a liberal and not a socialist and family is important to me. If you wish to spend all your children and grandchildrens' inheritance away that is your affair, however you live in North Wales where most young people on average incomes can afford to buy a house without assistance. That is not the case for those on average incomes in London and most of the South East and Home Counties so parents tend to be more prudent there in protecting the family savings and assets
I'm just wondering where you expect my dad to live to be able to give me my inheritance?
He would obviously be dead once you get your full inheritance
My mother in law is paying £1100 a week in her current care home. This comes off the value from her property until her assets drop to £27k (IIRC), when the LA start to foot bills. £1000 plus a week is the rule rather than the exception for care home costs.
For your plan to work your kinfolk will need to drop off the perch, compos mentis in their own home. If they fail that test when the time comes, you can whistle for your inheritance.
Apart from the 27k residual, right? That's certainly worth a lot more than a whistle.
I think HY is looking for the entire property rather than just a mortgage downpayment.
I'm not sure he's being that restrictive. That would be a large sum for anyone saving for a deposit for a house.
If not the whole house I do think he means a substantial percentage of it otherwise this is all academic. I don't think anyone is suggesting that a number of middle class families don't gift their children some money to help with the deposit and a few lucky ones will get a windfall. I certainly didn't, but my sister was gifted £15,000 from my parents to help her get on the ladder, but that isn't really what HYUFD is saying.
I don't know anyone who has inherited anything significant from a grandparent, nor anyone who has been given or inherited a substantial sum from their parents when they were still young. This only really applies to the very wealthy.
Also with DB pensions being a thing of the past people will be relying on their houses to provide an income in the future, particularly if they live a longtime and their drawdown pensions start looking a stretched. I will be as I have no other income, yet I would be considered very well off by most.
For most people the payment of the mortgage is not an issue, it's the capital needed in advance for the deposit. 30k would go a long, long way for many people. I very much doubt HYUFD is excluding these cases when he talks about inheritances.
Watching this makes me feel pity for Greta. Who could let this happen to a little girl?
Must say, I do quite like the Australian style points based response to the "selfish, badly educated, virtue signalling little turds"
Patrick Moore @EcoSenseNow Watch as Sky News Australia rips a new one for Greta. This would never happen in Canada, USA, or Europe. Three Cheers!
Haven't followed the link as I'm immune to Blimpish clickbait. But it's interesting what hostility Greta arouses. Nearly everyone agrees she's got a point, though we can debate how far we need to go to turn the ship round before it hits the rocks. Instead of discussing that, let's have a go at a teenager...
But he wasn't having a go at a teenager, Greta.
He was having a go at teenagers, Australian teenagers.
Nick’s comment still applies.
It doesn't.
Modern western middle class teenagers have a very indulged and pampered lifestyle and most will struggle to maintain that when they have to fund it themselves.
Its not really their fault but rather that of their parents, who would be better advised saving money for their kids rather than spending so much on them.
It does - and your response is any event directed at their parents.
As far as Australia’s CO2 output is concerned, this has little or nothing to do with teenagers and their mobile phone usage - indeed there is already one state (Tasmania) with 100% renewable electricity. Being one of the world’s largest coal producers is rather more germane.
It is blimpish clickbait par excellence, and frankly embarrassing to watch.
Embarrassing because he points out some inconvenient truths ?
Without watching it again didn't he make points about aircon usage and travel by cars.
A more UK or US equivalent could also mention the amount of air travel the modern lifestyle includes.
If he feels so strongly about a consumerist lifestyle then surely he ought to be agreeing with their sentiments while fulminating about their behaviour ? No, it's just ignorant dyspepsia.
Oh I'm sure he lives it up and that his own upbringing wasn't something out of an Australian Hovis advert.
But so what - few of us fully match our deeds to our thoughts - and the fundamental point remains that the modern middle class teenager has a pampered, privileged lifestyle, A lifestyle, at least in the UK, they will struggle to maintain when they have to fund it themselves.
A lifestyle they will struggle to maintain after their rentier parents and grandparents have extorted sufficient rents and taxes from them.
Indeed.
Their parents and grandparents generations are indulging them at the wrong time and will exploit them at the wrong time.
The younger generation are having their current expectations raised and their future means reduced.
The younger generation will inherit more than any generation before them thankys to the assets and savings their parents and grandparents have built up
The expected age for someone born in the 1980s to lose their last parent is 64. Only in Tory HQ would that be considered young.
Don't forget they will also likely inherit something from their grandparents too in their teens, twenties or thirties
Not if their grandparents spaff it all on strippers and blow, oh and cruises
@HYUFD is single minded in protecting his inheritance but in our case we spent a lot of money on cruises and 7 round the world trips over the last 15 years with no thought to our family's hope of inheritance
Furthermore demanding one million inheritance tax free so you can buy a house in the south us the ultimate in selfish self interest
You are very kind but our travels are over as we could not travel carefree anymore and we more importantly our health is not upto it
We daily thank the ' Good Lord ' for having given us the time and ability to travel to the four corners of our world and I would encourage everyone to travel as much as they can while they can and certainly have no heed to money they may hand down to their family at some time in the future
Life is to be lived and travel really does broaden the mind
If going on cruise ships broadens the mind, I can’t help but wonder what some of them must have like before they started….
I don't think anyone would disagree with the statement that traveling to other places broadens the mind.
It's true! I've travelled far and wide. Banff, Fraserburgh, Ellon. Once, I even went to Crathie! But I didn't like it, so I came home again.
Can you imagine how dull life would be if you stayed in your small village/town (or immediate vicinity if you are in a big city) all of your life?
I still meet people on the island who talk of their last visit to North Island, many years previous.
Travel broadens the mind, for sure. Especially independent travel.
Being on a cruise ship, perhaps not so much.
Just noticed the comment about cruise ships
Our 7 round the world trips did not include a cruise ship
My apologies
One trip did include a cruise from Vancouver via Japan and South Korea to China
Nothing wrong with cruising BigG (except for the environment of course for which it is awful). Horses for courses. However personally I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole, but who am I to judge. People think I am mad going on cycling holidays.
If you love the sea like we do cruising is for the destinations and life at sea
Hence our Vancouver to China, Southampton to Canada, New England and New York, ( our last cruise 2 years ago just pre covid) and our expedition cruise to Antarctica and South Georgia
Looks like a lot of empty seats. Is that because its not sold out, or is that Covid restrictions?
It’s pretty much sold out, but there’s an overall capacity limit and blanked off seats between bookings. People still arriving, my section is pretty much full now.
Watching this makes me feel pity for Greta. Who could let this happen to a little girl?
Must say, I do quite like the Australian style points based response to the "selfish, badly educated, virtue signalling little turds"
Patrick Moore @EcoSenseNow Watch as Sky News Australia rips a new one for Greta. This would never happen in Canada, USA, or Europe. Three Cheers!
Haven't followed the link as I'm immune to Blimpish clickbait. But it's interesting what hostility Greta arouses. Nearly everyone agrees she's got a point, though we can debate how far we need to go to turn the ship round before it hits the rocks. Instead of discussing that, let's have a go at a teenager...
But he wasn't having a go at a teenager, Greta.
He was having a go at teenagers, Australian teenagers.
Nick’s comment still applies.
It doesn't.
Modern western middle class teenagers have a very indulged and pampered lifestyle and most will struggle to maintain that when they have to fund it themselves.
Its not really their fault but rather that of their parents, who would be better advised saving money for their kids rather than spending so much on them.
It does - and your response is any event directed at their parents.
As far as Australia’s CO2 output is concerned, this has little or nothing to do with teenagers and their mobile phone usage - indeed there is already one state (Tasmania) with 100% renewable electricity. Being one of the world’s largest coal producers is rather more germane.
It is blimpish clickbait par excellence, and frankly embarrassing to watch.
Embarrassing because he points out some inconvenient truths ?
Without watching it again didn't he make points about aircon usage and travel by cars.
A more UK or US equivalent could also mention the amount of air travel the modern lifestyle includes.
If he feels so strongly about a consumerist lifestyle then surely he ought to be agreeing with their sentiments while fulminating about their behaviour ? No, it's just ignorant dyspepsia.
Oh I'm sure he lives it up and that his own upbringing wasn't something out of an Australian Hovis advert.
But so what - few of us fully match our deeds to our thoughts - and the fundamental point remains that the modern middle class teenager has a pampered, privileged lifestyle, A lifestyle, at least in the UK, they will struggle to maintain when they have to fund it themselves.
A lifestyle they will struggle to maintain after their rentier parents and grandparents have extorted sufficient rents and taxes from them.
Indeed.
Their parents and grandparents generations are indulging them at the wrong time and will exploit them at the wrong time.
The younger generation are having their current expectations raised and their future means reduced.
The younger generation will inherit more than any generation before them thanks to the assets and savings their parents and grandparents have built up
The expected age for someone born in the 1980s to lose their last parent is 64. Only in Tory HQ would that be considered young.
Don't forget they will also likely inherit something from their grandparents too in their teens, twenties or thirties
Not if their grandparents spaff it all on strippers and blow, oh and cruises
@HYUFD is single minded in protecting his inheritance but in our case we spent a lot of money on cruises and 7 round the world trips over the last 15 years with no thought to our family's hope of inheritance
Furthermore demanding one million inheritance tax free so you can buy a house in the south us the ultimate in selfish self interest
I am a conservative not a liberal and not a socialist and family is important to me. If you wish to spend all your children and grandchildrens' inheritance away that is your affair, however you live in North Wales where most young people on average incomes can afford to buy a house without assistance. That is not the case for those on average incomes in London and most of the South East and Home Counties so parents tend to be more prudent there in protecting the family savings and assets
I'm just wondering where you expect my dad to live to be able to give me my inheritance?
He would obviously be dead once you get your full inheritance
My mother in law is paying £1100 a week in her current care home. This comes off the value from her property until her assets drop to £27k (IIRC), when the LA start to foot bills. £1000 plus a week is the rule rather than the exception for care home costs.
For your plan to work your kinfolk will need to drop off the perch, compos mentis in their own home. If they fail that test when the time comes, you can whistle for your inheritance.
Apart from the 27k residual, right? That's certainly worth a lot more than a whistle.
I think HY is looking for the entire property rather than just a mortgage downpayment.
I'm not sure he's being that restrictive. That would be a large sum for anyone saving for a deposit for a house.
If not the whole house I do think he means a substantial percentage of it otherwise this is all academic. I don't think anyone is suggesting that a number of middle class families don't gift their children some money to help with the deposit and a few lucky ones will get a windfall. I certainly didn't, but my sister was gifted £15,000 from my parents to help her get on the ladder, but that isn't really what HYUFD is saying.
I don't know anyone who has inherited anything significant from a grandparent, nor anyone who has been given or inherited a substantial sum from their parents when they were still young. This only really applies to the very wealthy.
Also with DB pensions being a thing of the past people will be relying on their houses to provide an income in the future, particularly if they live a longtime and their drawdown pensions start looking a stretched. I will be as I have no other income, yet I would be considered very well off by most.
For most people the payment of the mortgage is not an issue, it's the capital needed in advance for the deposit. 30k would go a long, long way for many people. I very much doubt HYUFD is excluding these cases when he talks about inheritances.
In previous discussions he has specifically talked about 'inheriting the family home'. Something that is impossible or not wanted by most. Most have siblings to split it with and by the time they inherit anyway they have their own home. It is a view from a Victorian or prior middle class where the first son inherits the estate, 2nd goes into the military and third into the clergy. It is all cloud cuckooland nonsenses.
Watching this makes me feel pity for Greta. Who could let this happen to a little girl?
Must say, I do quite like the Australian style points based response to the "selfish, badly educated, virtue signalling little turds"
Patrick Moore @EcoSenseNow Watch as Sky News Australia rips a new one for Greta. This would never happen in Canada, USA, or Europe. Three Cheers!
Haven't followed the link as I'm immune to Blimpish clickbait. But it's interesting what hostility Greta arouses. Nearly everyone agrees she's got a point, though we can debate how far we need to go to turn the ship round before it hits the rocks. Instead of discussing that, let's have a go at a teenager...
But he wasn't having a go at a teenager, Greta.
He was having a go at teenagers, Australian teenagers.
Nick’s comment still applies.
It doesn't.
Modern western middle class teenagers have a very indulged and pampered lifestyle and most will struggle to maintain that when they have to fund it themselves.
Its not really their fault but rather that of their parents, who would be better advised saving money for their kids rather than spending so much on them.
It does - and your response is any event directed at their parents.
As far as Australia’s CO2 output is concerned, this has little or nothing to do with teenagers and their mobile phone usage - indeed there is already one state (Tasmania) with 100% renewable electricity. Being one of the world’s largest coal producers is rather more germane.
It is blimpish clickbait par excellence, and frankly embarrassing to watch.
Embarrassing because he points out some inconvenient truths ?
Without watching it again didn't he make points about aircon usage and travel by cars.
A more UK or US equivalent could also mention the amount of air travel the modern lifestyle includes.
If he feels so strongly about a consumerist lifestyle then surely he ought to be agreeing with their sentiments while fulminating about their behaviour ? No, it's just ignorant dyspepsia.
Oh I'm sure he lives it up and that his own upbringing wasn't something out of an Australian Hovis advert.
But so what - few of us fully match our deeds to our thoughts - and the fundamental point remains that the modern middle class teenager has a pampered, privileged lifestyle, A lifestyle, at least in the UK, they will struggle to maintain when they have to fund it themselves.
A lifestyle they will struggle to maintain after their rentier parents and grandparents have extorted sufficient rents and taxes from them.
Indeed.
Their parents and grandparents generations are indulging them at the wrong time and will exploit them at the wrong time.
The younger generation are having their current expectations raised and their future means reduced.
The younger generation will inherit more than any generation before them thanks to the assets and savings their parents and grandparents have built up
The expected age for someone born in the 1980s to lose their last parent is 64. Only in Tory HQ would that be considered young.
Don't forget they will also likely inherit something from their grandparents too in their teens, twenties or thirties
Not if their grandparents spaff it all on strippers and blow, oh and cruises
@HYUFD is single minded in protecting his inheritance but in our case we spent a lot of money on cruises and 7 round the world trips over the last 15 years with no thought to our family's hope of inheritance
Furthermore demanding one million inheritance tax free so you can buy a house in the south us the ultimate in selfish self interest
I am a conservative not a liberal and not a socialist and family is important to me. If you wish to spend all your children and grandchildrens' inheritance away that is your affair, however you live in North Wales where most young people on average incomes can afford to buy a house without assistance. That is not the case for those on average incomes in London and most of the South East and Home Counties so parents tend to be more prudent there in protecting the family savings and assets
I'm just wondering where you expect my dad to live to be able to give me my inheritance?
He would obviously be dead once you get your full inheritance
My mother in law is paying £1100 a week in her current care home. This comes off the value from her property until her assets drop to £27k (IIRC), when the LA start to foot bills. £1000 plus a week is the rule rather than the exception for care home costs.
For your plan to work your kinfolk will need to drop off the perch, compos mentis in their own home. If they fail that test when the time comes, you can whistle for your inheritance.
Apart from the 27k residual, right? That's certainly worth a lot more than a whistle.
I think HY is looking for the entire property rather than just a mortgage downpayment.
I'm not sure he's being that restrictive. That would be a large sum for anyone saving for a deposit for a house.
Well, are you sure? Anyway I'm off to Sytner BMW to blow that 27 grand.
Are you sure? You are the one saying he's only talking about people receiving entire properties. I think that's far too restrictive an interpretation.
I don't think he is being restrictive in either direction but I have interpreted his desire to be the saving of the entire family home for inheritance purposes, and possibly over two generations, hence his reference to grandparents.
I of course may have misinterpreted HY's vision, but I don't think I have.
Watching this makes me feel pity for Greta. Who could let this happen to a little girl?
Must say, I do quite like the Australian style points based response to the "selfish, badly educated, virtue signalling little turds"
Patrick Moore @EcoSenseNow Watch as Sky News Australia rips a new one for Greta. This would never happen in Canada, USA, or Europe. Three Cheers!
Haven't followed the link as I'm immune to Blimpish clickbait. But it's interesting what hostility Greta arouses. Nearly everyone agrees she's got a point, though we can debate how far we need to go to turn the ship round before it hits the rocks. Instead of discussing that, let's have a go at a teenager...
But he wasn't having a go at a teenager, Greta.
He was having a go at teenagers, Australian teenagers.
Nick’s comment still applies.
It doesn't.
Modern western middle class teenagers have a very indulged and pampered lifestyle and most will struggle to maintain that when they have to fund it themselves.
Its not really their fault but rather that of their parents, who would be better advised saving money for their kids rather than spending so much on them.
It does - and your response is any event directed at their parents.
As far as Australia’s CO2 output is concerned, this has little or nothing to do with teenagers and their mobile phone usage - indeed there is already one state (Tasmania) with 100% renewable electricity. Being one of the world’s largest coal producers is rather more germane.
It is blimpish clickbait par excellence, and frankly embarrassing to watch.
Embarrassing because he points out some inconvenient truths ?
Without watching it again didn't he make points about aircon usage and travel by cars.
A more UK or US equivalent could also mention the amount of air travel the modern lifestyle includes.
If he feels so strongly about a consumerist lifestyle then surely he ought to be agreeing with their sentiments while fulminating about their behaviour ? No, it's just ignorant dyspepsia.
Oh I'm sure he lives it up and that his own upbringing wasn't something out of an Australian Hovis advert.
But so what - few of us fully match our deeds to our thoughts - and the fundamental point remains that the modern middle class teenager has a pampered, privileged lifestyle, A lifestyle, at least in the UK, they will struggle to maintain when they have to fund it themselves.
A lifestyle they will struggle to maintain after their rentier parents and grandparents have extorted sufficient rents and taxes from them.
Indeed.
Their parents and grandparents generations are indulging them at the wrong time and will exploit them at the wrong time.
The younger generation are having their current expectations raised and their future means reduced.
The younger generation will inherit more than any generation before them thanks to the assets and savings their parents and grandparents have built up
The expected age for someone born in the 1980s to lose their last parent is 64. Only in Tory HQ would that be considered young.
Don't forget they will also likely inherit something from their grandparents too in their teens, twenties or thirties
Not if their grandparents spaff it all on strippers and blow, oh and cruises
@HYUFD is single minded in protecting his inheritance but in our case we spent a lot of money on cruises and 7 round the world trips over the last 15 years with no thought to our family's hope of inheritance
Furthermore demanding one million inheritance tax free so you can buy a house in the south us the ultimate in selfish self interest
I am a conservative not a liberal and not a socialist and family is important to me. If you wish to spend all your children and grandchildrens' inheritance away that is your affair, however you live in North Wales where most young people on average incomes can afford to buy a house without assistance. That is not the case for those on average incomes in London and most of the South East and Home Counties so parents tend to be more prudent there in protecting the family savings and assets
I'm just wondering where you expect my dad to live to be able to give me my inheritance?
He would obviously be dead once you get your full inheritance
My mother in law is paying £1100 a week in her current care home. This comes off the value from her property until her assets drop to £27k (IIRC), when the LA start to foot bills. £1000 plus a week is the rule rather than the exception for care home costs.
For your plan to work your kinfolk will need to drop off the perch, compos mentis in their own home. If they fail that test when the time comes, you can whistle for your inheritance.
Apart from the 27k residual, right? That's certainly worth a lot more than a whistle.
I think HY is looking for the entire property rather than just a mortgage downpayment.
I'm not sure he's being that restrictive. That would be a large sum for anyone saving for a deposit for a house.
Well, are you sure? Anyway I'm off to Sytner BMW to blow that 27 grand.
Are you sure? You are the one saying he's only talking about people receiving entire properties. I think that's far too restrictive an interpretation.
I don't think he is being restrictive in either direction but I have interpreted his desire to be the saving of the entire family home for inheritance purposes, and possibly over two generations, hence his reference to grandparents.
I of course may have misinterpreted HY's vision, but I don't think I have.
I made clear the family home should be inherited yes but also savings from parents and indeed grandparents and inheritances from the property of grandparents can be used for deposits for properties too.
Kjh as a liberal non conservative obviously disagrees
Watching this makes me feel pity for Greta. Who could let this happen to a little girl?
Must say, I do quite like the Australian style points based response to the "selfish, badly educated, virtue signalling little turds"
Patrick Moore @EcoSenseNow Watch as Sky News Australia rips a new one for Greta. This would never happen in Canada, USA, or Europe. Three Cheers!
Haven't followed the link as I'm immune to Blimpish clickbait. But it's interesting what hostility Greta arouses. Nearly everyone agrees she's got a point, though we can debate how far we need to go to turn the ship round before it hits the rocks. Instead of discussing that, let's have a go at a teenager...
But he wasn't having a go at a teenager, Greta.
He was having a go at teenagers, Australian teenagers.
Nick’s comment still applies.
It doesn't.
Modern western middle class teenagers have a very indulged and pampered lifestyle and most will struggle to maintain that when they have to fund it themselves.
Its not really their fault but rather that of their parents, who would be better advised saving money for their kids rather than spending so much on them.
It does - and your response is any event directed at their parents.
As far as Australia’s CO2 output is concerned, this has little or nothing to do with teenagers and their mobile phone usage - indeed there is already one state (Tasmania) with 100% renewable electricity. Being one of the world’s largest coal producers is rather more germane.
It is blimpish clickbait par excellence, and frankly embarrassing to watch.
Embarrassing because he points out some inconvenient truths ?
Without watching it again didn't he make points about aircon usage and travel by cars.
A more UK or US equivalent could also mention the amount of air travel the modern lifestyle includes.
If he feels so strongly about a consumerist lifestyle then surely he ought to be agreeing with their sentiments while fulminating about their behaviour ? No, it's just ignorant dyspepsia.
Oh I'm sure he lives it up and that his own upbringing wasn't something out of an Australian Hovis advert.
But so what - few of us fully match our deeds to our thoughts - and the fundamental point remains that the modern middle class teenager has a pampered, privileged lifestyle, A lifestyle, at least in the UK, they will struggle to maintain when they have to fund it themselves.
A lifestyle they will struggle to maintain after their rentier parents and grandparents have extorted sufficient rents and taxes from them.
Indeed.
Their parents and grandparents generations are indulging them at the wrong time and will exploit them at the wrong time.
The younger generation are having their current expectations raised and their future means reduced.
The younger generation will inherit more than any generation before them thanks to the assets and savings their parents and grandparents have built up
The expected age for someone born in the 1980s to lose their last parent is 64. Only in Tory HQ would that be considered young.
Don't forget they will also likely inherit something from their grandparents too in their teens, twenties or thirties
Not if their grandparents spaff it all on strippers and blow, oh and cruises
@HYUFD is single minded in protecting his inheritance but in our case we spent a lot of money on cruises and 7 round the world trips over the last 15 years with no thought to our family's hope of inheritance
Furthermore demanding one million inheritance tax free so you can buy a house in the south us the ultimate in selfish self interest
I am a conservative not a liberal and not a socialist and family is important to me. If you wish to spend all your children and grandchildrens' inheritance away that is your affair, however you live in North Wales where most young people on average incomes can afford to buy a house without assistance. That is not the case for those on average incomes in London and most of the South East and Home Counties so parents tend to be more prudent there in protecting the family savings and assets
I'm just wondering where you expect my dad to live to be able to give me my inheritance?
He would obviously be dead once you get your full inheritance
My mother in law is paying £1100 a week in her current care home. This comes off the value from her property until her assets drop to £27k (IIRC), when the LA start to foot bills. £1000 plus a week is the rule rather than the exception for care home costs.
For your plan to work your kinfolk will need to drop off the perch, compos mentis in their own home. If they fail that test when the time comes, you can whistle for your inheritance.
3/4 of the retired do not need full time residential care.
Those that do will have their specific care costs capped under the government's new plans
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For your plan to work your kinfolk will need to drop off the perch, compos mentis in their own home. If they fail that test when the time comes, you can whistle for your inheritance.
Here we go!
Despite there being reported clashes between Ms Sturgeon and Mr Johnson regarding the summit, Scotland’s First Minister will be attending COP26 in Glasgow. Mr Johnson went so far as to say that Ms Sturgeon will play a key role in the climate conference, as the leader of the Scottish government.
https://www.scotsman.com/news/environment/which-leaders-will-attend-cop26-full-list-of-country-heads-visiting-glasgow-for-climate-change-summit-3392176
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/facebook-knew-radicalized-users-rcna3581
… In summer 2019, a new Facebook user named Carol Smith signed up for the platform, describing herself as a politically conservative mother from Wilmington, North Carolina. Smith’s account indicated an interest in politics, parenting and Christianity and followed a few of her favorite brands, including Fox News and then-President Donald Trump.
Though Smith had never expressed interest in conspiracy theories, in just two days Facebook was recommending she join groups dedicated to QAnon, a sprawling and baseless conspiracy theory and movement that claimed Trump was secretly saving the world from a cabal of pedophiles and Satanists.
Smith didn’t follow the recommended QAnon groups, but whatever algorithm Facebook was using to determine how she should engage with the platform pushed ahead just the same. Within one week, Smith’s feed was full of groups and pages that had violated Facebook’s own rules, including those against hate speech and disinformation.
Smith wasn’t a real person. A researcher employed by Facebook invented the account, along with those of other fictitious “test users” in 2019 and 2020, as part of an experiment in studying the platform’s role in misinforming and polarizing users through its recommendations systems.
That researcher said Smith’s Facebook experience was “a barrage of extreme, conspiratorial, and graphic content.”
The body of research consistently found Facebook pushed some users into “rabbit holes,” increasingly narrow echo chambers where violent conspiracy theories thrived. People radicalized through these rabbit holes make up a small slice of total users, but at Facebook’s scale, that can mean millions of individuals.…
The new public health despotism
Draconian rules are suppressing our humanity
Matthew Crawford"
https://unherd.com/2021/10/the-new-covid-despotism/
I've got a small bet on England win combined with BTTS 150+
I'm OK with that if that happens.
https://twitter.com/Istanbultelaviv/status/1451913810403631106
3 down.
Our 7 round the world trips did not include a cruise ship
https://twitter.com/StephenGethins/status/1434243868086710274?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1434255567384625158|twgr^|twcon^s3_&ref_url=https://news.stv.tv/politics/no-10-trying-to-cut-sturgeon-out-of-cop26-summit-leaked-messages-say
https://news.stv.tv/politics/no-10-trying-to-cut-sturgeon-out-of-cop26-summit-leaked-messages-say?top
https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/19559884.boris-johnsons-inactions-nicola-sturgeons-cop26-role-prove-costly/
But it looks as if he did perhaps use those words .
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18217303.no-10-boris-johnson-not-call-nicola-sturgeon-bloody-wee-jimmy-krankie-woman-cop26-row/
https://www.thenational.scot/news/18215719.no-10-denies-boris-johnson-made-nicola-sturgeon-krankie-slur/
https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/18215254.glasgow-cop26-row-boris-johnson-called-nicola-sturgeon-bloody-wee-jimmy-krankie-woman/
PS. When are you going to embrace S Wales?
One trip did include a cruise from Vancouver via Japan and South Korea to China
27k isnt a lot if there are 2 children and you arent getting it til you're 50+. not sure when the new rules the NI increase is meant to pay for eventually come in.
F1: decided that while I may pay attention to third practice, or not, I want to get the pre-qualifying tosh out of the way sooner rather than later so that'll be up some time in the next hour.
Unless I get attacked by a flange of flying baboons, obviously. In which case it will be longer.
Don't think the Windies will hit 150 😂
I don't know anyone who has inherited anything significant from a grandparent, nor anyone who has been given or inherited a substantial sum from their parents when they were still young. This only really applies to the very wealthy.
Also with DB pensions being a thing of the past people will be relying on their houses to provide an income in the future, particularly if they live a longtime and their drawdown pensions start looking a stretched. I will be as I have no other income, yet I would be considered very well off by most.
We have holidayed in Pembrokeshire but Cardiff holds little attraction to us and it is easier to go to London than Cardiff
On the eighth (and not even last) delivery of the over.
42/6
https://enormo-haddock.blogspot.com/2021/10/usa-pre-qualifying-2021.html
There is a bit on the 2022 calendar and F1 fan survey at the start, though no tip.
Edit. 44/7.
For England.
Looks like a lot of empty seats. Is that because its not sold out, or is that Covid restrictions?
Hence our Vancouver to China, Southampton to Canada, New England and New York, ( our last cruise 2 years ago just pre covid) and our expedition cruise to Antarctica and South Georgia
I of course may have misinterpreted HY's vision, but I don't think I have.
Kjh as a liberal non conservative obviously disagrees
Those that do will have their specific care costs capped under the government's new plans