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Re: The long-running series is cancelled – politicalbetting.com

I can’t get excited about children’s TV
Not even The Box of Delights?
(another Christmas tradition)
A veritable classic. One of my favourites
Remember watching it aged about 5 and it was a bit scary.

I'm hoping to direct a stage adaptation soon

oxfordsimon

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Re: Keir today, gone tomorrow (well September) – politicalbetting.com

But OrangeManBad can’t even fix a reflecting pool!

Sandpit

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Re: Keir today, gone tomorrow (well September) – politicalbetting.com

Despite all the sneering, I thought Starmer's exit statement was statesmanlike and dignified, clearly putting the Labour Party before his own ego. Very different from Boris's waspish words when he left the stage.

One of his better speeches, for sure.

If he'd been able to sell that list of achievements, he might not be out!

Selebian

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Re: The long-running series is cancelled – politicalbetting.com

@jessicaelgot.bsky.social‬

High farce delivered in the way only British politics can - a Sky News helicopter tracking Burnham's train down to Euston, only to follow the wrong cab once he gets in.

Scott_xP

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Re: The long-running series is cancelled – politicalbetting.com

Andrew Neill made the point about how Bray must be breaking noise laws and there are umpteen police just standing there outside Downing Street. Another example of not being a serious country that we don't do anything about Bray.
If Bray was a pro-Brexit campaigner, would he get the same soft treatment?

Soft treatment ? See Nigel Farage.

Although the Farage example is more pernicious. Starmer gets free glasses from a Labour Peer and generates a national media scandal. Farage takes £5m from a crypto billionaire, speaks in favour of crypto and not a sausage. Two tier media.

Mexicanpete

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Re: The long-running series is cancelled – politicalbetting.com

Ok, for all those who were wondering

"...As the 1980s wore on it began to falter. It could not compete with flashier imported ideas from America that captured the imagination in a way the older, British based series could not. Attempts at attracting attention by recruiting celebrities mitigated the problem but its verbose showrunner could not prevent it collapsing in the figures..."

Dr Who: showrunner John Nathan Turner. Camp. Used stunt casting (Beryl Reid! Richard Briers!) to keep numbers up. Failed
Labour: showrunner Neil Kinnock. Verbose. Used celebrities (Tracey Ullman! Billy Bragg!) to keep numbers up. Failed

"...The 1990s saw numerous attempts to revive and invigorate the series, but an attempt under a new showrunner in the early 90s to revive the series still failed..."

Dr Who: showrunner Philip Sayer. Well regarded. Attempted American reboot. Failed
Labour: showrunner John Smith. Well regarded. Attempted a British reboot. Died prematurely

"…and a new showrunner promptly arrived. Imbued by a love for the old series but well aware of the problems that were killing it, he rewrote it from top to bottom, inventing an event making the previous lore irrelevant, reformatting it, and using new money to recast the series as flashy, audience friendly, with a smidgen of social change but not enough to scare the horses. It took off and became incredibly popular, even inspiring Americans in the late 2000s/early 2010s as the series expanded worldwide..."

Dr Who: showrunner Russell T Davies. Well regarded. Invented the Time War to eliminate old lore. Succeeded wildly. Big in America
Labour: showrunner Tony Blair. Well regarded. Invented New Labour to eliminate old lore. Succeeded wildly. Big in America

"...Then another showrunner took over, with greater emphasis on equality and female stars, and despite early optimism and enthusiasm the figures fell still further. It could no longer survive as the 2020s dawned..."

Dr Who: showrunner Chris Chibnall. Mediocre. Recast the Doctor as a woman. Invented the Timeless Child which was hated. Failed.
Labour: showrunner Jeremy Corbyn. Mediocre. Returned Labour to its old roots, far too late. Introduced antisemitism which was hated. Failed.

"...It became apparent that the showrunner simply didn’t know what he was doing, and with an approach based on meaningless tweets, generated content, and bodged resurrections of old villains, now irrelevant, just made things worse..."

Dr Who: showrunner Russell T Davies. Mediocre. Inspired hope of change, but veered from plot to plot. Tweeted a lot, pointlessly. Fired.
Labour: showrunner Keir Starmer. Mediocre. Inspired hope of change, but veered from speech to speech. Tweeted a lot, pointlessly. Fired.

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Re: The long-running series is cancelled – politicalbetting.com

I can’t get excited about children’s TV

Not even The Box of Delights?
(another Christmas tradition)

Sweeney74

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Re: The long-running series is cancelled – politicalbetting.com

I can’t get excited about children’s TV

IanB2

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Re: The long-running series is cancelled – politicalbetting.com

@Sweeney74

The public rightly say Die Hard is NOT a Christmas film

https://www.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2024/12/11/new-poll-confirms-the-infinite-wisdom-of-the-british-people/
Is "Last Christmas" a christmas movie?

The Dr Who story or the Wham track ?

Taz

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Re: The long-running series is cancelled – politicalbetting.com

The Doctor Who comparison, I just can't shake it...

Doctor - PM or LoTO you get the idea
1st (Hartnell) - Attlee
2nd (Troughton) - Wilson
3rd (Pertwee) - Heath
4th (Tom Baker) - Thatcher
5th (Davison) - Major
6th (Colin Baker) - Hague (yes, I know not PM)
7th (McCoy) - Kinnock
Wilderness Years - Labour 1992-97
8th (McGann) - John Smith
War Doctor - Blair in opposition
9th (Eccleston) - New Labour government (1997-2010)
10th (Tennant) - Cameron/Coalition
11th (Smith) - Cameron
12th (Capaldi) - May
13th (Whittaker) - Corbyn (not PM, but the timing and fandom dynamics fit frighteningly well)
14th (Tennant redux) -Starmer before election
15th (Gatwa) - Starmer government

Sweeney74

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