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Re: Sir Keir Starmer continues to be Malleus Scotnatorum – politicalbetting.com
I realise you think so.On topic, a few thoughts of my own here:You do realise Bluesky is speedily dwindling?
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:rw4da24nmylecouj3quow7hp/post/3lqwfmalm4c2q
But I'd rather spend time in a pleasant pool than an ocean of sewage.
Re: Sir Keir Starmer continues to be Malleus Scotnatorum – politicalbetting.com
We won't need to leave (why's that always the solution?!). The Council of Europe is already making noises about reforming it. We should make a strong and principled contribution to that process.The ECHR was set up by the likes of Churchill as a check and balance to the sort of behaviour that allowed the rise of Hitler. It is quite remarkable that when we leave under Farage/ Jenrick/Badenoch/ Robinson we join a tiny band of dictators from Russia and Belarus, until the next elected right wing nutter takes control of another European state.This is the setup to a policy that lays out why we should leave the ECHR. Hopefully it gives a well reasoned and researched paper which shows how remote the Strasbourg court is now from member states and how much sovereignty all countries have handed over to this cabal of judges that are simply accountable to no one. This exercise, like the Cass study, may end up becoming one of the major flashpoints with the ECHR across all of Europe. The Netherlands, France, Italy and Germany have all begun signalling their unhappiness with the current status quo and a serious paper that outlines all of the flaws within these specific points could be a game changer, at least for how a new approach could be taken across Europe and potentially pushing the Strasbourg court down to "advisory" status in some scenarios such as deportation hearings etc...Kemi:Wishy washy. You don't need a review to decide this. If those are your tests and they are more important than everything else then just say you will leave the ECHR, as Farage has done. There is close to zero market share available that wants a wishy washy exit from the ECHR rather than a bold exit.
Don't think it will save her. But it does put clear blue water between the conservatives and the government.
Tbh, it should have been Starmer's BoE moment in the first week.
Eabhal
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Re: Elon Musk has got the hell out of DOGE and it is epic – politicalbetting.com
The Muskovites?Musk has suggested he could set up his own partyNigel seems to have done very well not to get too close to Elon Musk but not to piss him off.I think what we need is for Trump-Musk to get so acrimonious it actually turns reality inside-out so that they become friends again, and THEN they fall out again.Just heard about this and is Trump is going to pull his support for Tesla ?
It may be popcorn to some but not those of us who are very concerned about the consequences
And Reform disintegrating as well
Let's go back to the Blair and Cameron- Clegg years
I don't see Musk supporting Democratic candidates personally, but who knows?
https://www.ndtvprofit.com/world/donald-trump-elon-musk-feud-tesla-chief-floats-idea-of-new-political-party
kle4
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Re: Elon Musk has got the hell out of DOGE and it is epic – politicalbetting.com
Trump could have Musk deported. Seriously.Maybe Keir can grant him asylum. Chortle.
Re: Sir Keir Starmer continues to be Malleus Scotnatorum – politicalbetting.com
I just got a message from my doctor that I had a letter. I signed on to my NHS app hurdling various security checks to read the letter. The letter invited me to attend a meeting telling me how to access my app.
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Re: Sir Keir Starmer continues to be Malleus Scotnatorum – politicalbetting.com
Now now, don´t project your own neo-fascism onto the entire country.It won’t nudge the dial either way. But it gives Kemi a means of placating both wings of her party and also looking sensible and patrioticIt is bad. Next month Refukkers +1 or +2. Conservatives -1 or -2 yet again. And this kind of wishy washy farage lite is why.But it’s not bad as retail politics. Five point plans often sound good, which is why they are used constantly by everyoneKemi:Wishy washy. You don't need a review to decide this. If those are your tests and they are more important than everything else then just say you will leave the ECHR, as Farage has done. There is close to zero market share available that wants a wishy washy exit from the ECHR rather than a bold exit.
Don't think it will save her. But it does put clear blue water between the conservatives and the government.
She really is in a bind. The entire country wants to vote for a British Pinochet but she’s stuck in some weird rump Cameroon sect of MPs that are basically Lib Dems
1) its bollocks
2) its stupid bollocks.
3) even the Daily heil isn´t giving Farage a pass on this... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14786531/Reform-crisis-Nigel-Farage-party-infighting-Zia-Yusuf-quits.html
Cicero
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Re: Sir Keir Starmer continues to be Malleus Scotnatorum – politicalbetting.com
I'm not wildly enthusiastic about §4 either. We send load of people to prison, and basically all it teaches them, as someone more knowledgeable than me said, to be better criminals.Kemi:#2 is morally and intellectually bankrupt. The tories deserve extirpation for that alone.
Don't think it will save her. But it does put clear blue water between the conservatives and the government.
Anyway, who ran down the justice and the prison systems to breaking point, and indeed beyond, over the last few years?
Re: Sir Keir Starmer continues to be Malleus Scotnatorum – politicalbetting.com
I don't think I'd want either of them running children's social care, either.Alexander had commanded armies successfully, by the age of 22. Ismail I had conquered Iran.There's no reason they can't be councillors.The maturity of under 25s is already considered when sentencing themA progressive idea is that sentences for crimes committed by under 25s should be less, since their brains aren't fully developed. and they aren't fully responsible.I see reform thinks that a teenager is a suitable person to lead child services at Leicestershire councilWell Labour and the SNP (among others) think 16 year olds deserve the vote. It surely depends on the person. Now if you don't think any 19 year old or 22 year old should be a councillor, thats a different question, and tbh, one I think is worth asking.
And a 22 year old leads adult social care
https://new.basw.co.uk/about-social-work/psw-magazine/articles/reform-councillors-aged-19-and-22-charge-childrens-and
Did all the other councillors take 2 steps back when the positions were offered because this doesn’t make sense
I've seen that advocated by the same people pushing for a reduction in voting age.
Putting them in charge of £600m budgets is a very different matter.
Nigelb
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Re: Sir Keir Starmer continues to be Malleus Scotnatorum – politicalbetting.com
Kemi:#2 is morally and intellectually bankrupt. The tories deserve extirpation for that alone.
Don't think it will save her. But it does put clear blue water between the conservatives and the government.
Dura_Ace
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Re: Sir Keir Starmer continues to be Malleus Scotnatorum – politicalbetting.com
I hope you all read point 6 in the header.Point six ?
You have great faith in PBers' attention spans.
Nigelb
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