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One thing that is becoming increasingly clear in the battle for the Republican nomination is that Donald Trump will need to have enough delegates on the first round by the time he gets to the GOP convention in Cleveland in July.
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Trump sliding, Cruz and Kasich coming in on Betfair0
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Second! Like LEAVE.....0
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Cruz will win Wisconsin.
Quite why Kasich's odds are coming in is a total mystery.0 -
I hadn't realised Madison was so close to Chicago.
I'm been avoiding going there because I thought it was near Dakota or something!
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'Not doing very much' is actually not that bad a government policy.SouthamObserver said:
The SNP owns the flag and has made sure to do nothing that will alienate those who vote in elections. That's why it has said plenty about food banks and austerity, but has done nothing practical to alleviate either. As a result, it will govern for many years to come. Whether that actually leads to independence, though, is another thing entirely.scotslass said:TCPoliticalBetting
Not sure I agree that a decline in SNP/Nicola is inevitable even in the medium term.
The SNP has risen substantially in popularity since it gained office in 2007. Salmond stayed at positive popularity ratings throughout his eight years in office, almost unheard of in a democratic system. However, Sturgeon shows every sign of doing the same. The new powers will not change that dynamic since the SNP have sensibly avoided the daftness of Labour and Greens in suggesting hiking every tax rate (or the indirect tax bombshells of the Tories in £9,000 tuition fees) and instead opted for a relatively mild redistribution of income tax and Council Tax towards the lower paid.
The NATS retain a radical cutting edge on the issues of Trident, renewable power, land reform and of course independence. They are despite an incredibly hostile old fashioned press a competent Government by UK standards - compare for example their solution on saving Scottish steel to the total confusion of the Tories. On that formula barring accidents (and events dear boy events) the SNP is set for a further long run of dominance.
The question remains how long the Zoomers can put up with the gap between the 'social democratic' rhetoric and the 'evil bastard Tory' policy.......0 -
Because he looks like the only electable GOP candidate.Pulpstar said:Cruz will win Wisconsin.
Quite why Kasich's odds are coming in is a total mystery.0 -
Is this definitely a winner takes all state? I thought someone on here said last night that it wasn't as simple as that.0
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PB - good for politics and good for geography.Charles said:I hadn't realised Madison was so close to Chicago.
I'm been avoiding going there because I thought it was near Dakota or something!
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Rubio still wants to be a player - http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/rubio-makes-unprecedented-bid-keep-delegates-contested-convention-n5476460
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Isn't Wisconsin more of a Missouri/South Carolina type state with it's delegate maths (Winner takes most ?)0
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Whatever happens the GOP will lose the GE by around 10 points, whoever they nominate a significant portion of the GOP is going to break off and campaign actively against whoever the nominee is.TheScreamingEagles said:
Because he looks like the only electable GOP candidate.Pulpstar said:Cruz will win Wisconsin.
Quite why Kasich's odds are coming in is a total mystery.0 -
I wonder why Michigan does extend across there.JonathanD said:
I hadn't realised the bit of land above Wisconsin was Michigan, I though Michigan was just the peninsula.Charles said:I hadn't realised Madison was so close to Chicago.
I'm been avoiding going there because I thought it was near Dakota or something!
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As I said for weeks now the only sure bet is Winner Democrats.TheScreamingEagles said:Trump sliding, Cruz and Kasich coming in on Betfair
The odds on that are still good.0 -
Sadiq Khan's bid to be London Mayor was dealt a blow today as hard-Left activists admitted backing him to “strengthen” Jeremy Corbyn.
The Standard can reveal that leaders of the controversial Momentum group told activists to support the Labour candidate because defeat in London on May 5 would “undermine” his party’s leader. Tories seized on the revelation by taunting: “Vote Khan, Get Corbyn.”
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/revealed-hardleft-plot-to-back-sadiq-khan-in-bid-to-strengthen-corbyn-a3215066.html0 -
I confess I was involved in the Ryan rush.0
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There's still the FBI.Speedy said:
As I said for weeks now the only sure bet is Winner Democrats.TheScreamingEagles said:Trump sliding, Cruz and Kasich coming in on Betfair
The odds on that are still good.0 -
The power of the Channel 4 documentary....TheScreamingEagles said:Trump sliding, Cruz and Kasich coming in on Betfair
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It denies Trump and Cruz a few Alaska delegates.williamglenn said:Rubio still wants to be a player - http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/rubio-makes-unprecedented-bid-keep-delegates-contested-convention-n547646
And keeps him in the race.0 -
That's why I said Winner Democrats not Winner Hillary.Alistair said:
There's still the FBI.Speedy said:
As I said for weeks now the only sure bet is Winner Democrats.TheScreamingEagles said:Trump sliding, Cruz and Kasich coming in on Betfair
The odds on that are still good.0 -
The rules are discussed here:Speedy said:
It is.Pulpstar said:Isn't Wisconsin more of a Missouri/South Carolina type state with it's delegate maths (Winner takes most ?)
But if Cruz wins by a double digit margin you can expect him to take all delegates.
http://frontloading.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/2016-republican-delegate-allocation_26.html
My head hurts.0 -
I see it as more as the power of my intuition being validated on the GOP race once more.MarqueeMark said:
The power of the Channel 4 documentary....TheScreamingEagles said:Trump sliding, Cruz and Kasich coming in on Betfair
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Good afternoon, everyone.0
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Sad news. And a bit spooky, as only yesterday I was chatting with a work colleague about the two ronnies.TheScreamingEagles said:Ronnie Corbett has died.
My favourite The Two Ronnies sketch
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The most annoying thing is the way alot of people decide "Trump" and the GOP nominee are interchangeable, until it isn't. And then people are 'surprised' or whatever...0
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It's not complicated, the rules for Wisconsin are the winner of the state gets 15 delegates, the winner of each of the 8 congressional districts gets 3 delegates.rottenborough said:
The rules are discussed here:Speedy said:
It is.Pulpstar said:Isn't Wisconsin more of a Missouri/South Carolina type state with it's delegate maths (Winner takes most ?)
But if Cruz wins by a double digit margin you can expect him to take all delegates.
http://frontloading.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/2016-republican-delegate-allocation_26.html
My head hurts.0 -
It isn't as simple as that. The delegates are divided by state (winner takes all), and congressional districts (the same). Realistically, the winner will probably get 75% of the total in even a worse case scenario (the state, plus half the CDs), and more likely 85-90%. Given the 10+% lead for Cruz, it is quite possible he wins the vast majority of the CDs.tlg86 said:Is this definitely a winner takes all state? I thought someone on here said last night that it wasn't as simple as that.
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Cruz should take the state, plus five (maybe six) of the CDs. Trump will get 2 to 3 CDs, Kasich 0 to 1.Speedy said:
It's not complicated, the rules for Wisconsin are the winner of the state gets 15 delegates, the winner of each of the 8 congressional districts gets 3 delegates.rottenborough said:
The rules are discussed here:Speedy said:
It is.Pulpstar said:Isn't Wisconsin more of a Missouri/South Carolina type state with it's delegate maths (Winner takes most ?)
But if Cruz wins by a double digit margin you can expect him to take all delegates.
http://frontloading.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/2016-republican-delegate-allocation_26.html
My head hurts.
The most likely outcome, therefore, is:
Cruz 30
Trump 9
Almost equally likely is:
Cruz 33
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I said that Trump was going to have a very tough month from March 15th until N.Y on April 19th.Pulpstar said:The most annoying thing is the way alot of people decide "Trump" and the GOP nominee are interchangeable, until it isn't. And then people are 'surprised' or whatever...
If Cruz weren't a Senator from Texas, or Kasich Governor of Ohio, then Trump would have been as a sure thing as Hillary.
Given that they both tend to win and lose the same states, with the exceptions of the home states of their rivals.
It's a pity for Sanders that his home state is tiny Vermont, though that gave him a win in N.H.0 -
How come Cruz is so popular in Wisconsin? Is this a near-to-Canada thing?rcs1000 said:
Cruz should take the state, plus five (maybe six) of the CDs. Trump will get 2 to 3 CDs, Kasich 0 to 1.Speedy said:
It's not complicated, the rules for Wisconsin are the winner of the state gets 15 delegates, the winner of each of the 8 congressional districts gets 3 delegates.rottenborough said:
The rules are discussed here:Speedy said:
It is.Pulpstar said:Isn't Wisconsin more of a Missouri/South Carolina type state with it's delegate maths (Winner takes most ?)
But if Cruz wins by a double digit margin you can expect him to take all delegates.
http://frontloading.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/2016-republican-delegate-allocation_26.html
My head hurts.
The most likely outcome, therefore, is:
Cruz 30
Trump 9
Almost equally likely is:
Cruz 33
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Wisconsin is an Open primary, which in past contests has helped Trump and disadvantaged Cruz.
Whether that will be the case this time remains to be seen. Wisconsin polling is sparse but seems to show Cruz ahead:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/wi/wisconsin_republican_presidential_primary-3763.html
More generally, with his abortion comments Trump has probably tested to destruction the theory that you can shoot from the hip at random targets without any electoral downside.0 -
The establishment has chosen him as the temporary stop Trump guy there.rottenborough said:
How come Cruz is so popular in Wisconsin? Is this a near-to-Canada thing?rcs1000 said:
Cruz should take the state, plus five (maybe six) of the CDs. Trump will get 2 to 3 CDs, Kasich 0 to 1.Speedy said:
It's not complicated, the rules for Wisconsin are the winner of the state gets 15 delegates, the winner of each of the 8 congressional districts gets 3 delegates.rottenborough said:
The rules are discussed here:Speedy said:
It is.Pulpstar said:Isn't Wisconsin more of a Missouri/South Carolina type state with it's delegate maths (Winner takes most ?)
But if Cruz wins by a double digit margin you can expect him to take all delegates.
http://frontloading.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/2016-republican-delegate-allocation_26.html
My head hurts.
The most likely outcome, therefore, is:
Cruz 30
Trump 9
Almost equally likely is:
Cruz 33
Trump 6
The Milwaukee suburbs are the home of the most economic conservatives in America, they are very rich, very republican and they hate things like healthcare, pensions, schools ect.
Their poster boys include such useless and incompetent people like Paul Ryan and Scott Walker, and much earlier Joe McCarthy of McCarthyism fame.
The GOP establishment is not located just in the D.C suburbs or Salt Lake City you know, they are also in Milwaukee, Orange County and the Upper East Side.0 -
He can always turn to his local Imam for advice...TheScreamingEagles said:Sadiq Khan's bid to be London Mayor was dealt a blow today as hard-Left activists admitted backing him to “strengthen” Jeremy Corbyn.
The Standard can reveal that leaders of the controversial Momentum group told activists to support the Labour candidate because defeat in London on May 5 would “undermine” his party’s leader. Tories seized on the revelation by taunting: “Vote Khan, Get Corbyn.”
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/revealed-hardleft-plot-to-back-sadiq-khan-in-bid-to-strengthen-corbyn-a3215066.html
http://order-order.com/2016/03/31/sadiqs-personal-emails-to-extremist-imam/0 -
SkyNews were bashing Trump this morning. It's agenda is very clear and pointless to me.
It's TV clickbait and little more.MarqueeMark said:
The power of the Channel 4 documentary....TheScreamingEagles said:Trump sliding, Cruz and Kasich coming in on Betfair
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South Africa's highest court has ruled that President Jacob Zuma violated the constitution when he failed to repay some of the government money used to upgrade his private home.
An anti-corruption body, known as the public protector, ruled in 2014 that $23m (£15m) had been spent on his rural home in Nkandla in South Africa's KwaZulu-Natal province.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-35932286
You want to hear his opinion on immigrants....he makes Donald Trump sound like a limp wristed Guardianista...0 -
Yay for the OC!Speedy said:
The establishment has chosen him as the temporary stop Trump guy there.rottenborough said:
How come Cruz is so popular in Wisconsin? Is this a near-to-Canada thing?rcs1000 said:
Cruz should take the state, plus five (maybe six) of the CDs. Trump will get 2 to 3 CDs, Kasich 0 to 1.Speedy said:
It's not complicated, the rules for Wisconsin are the winner of the state gets 15 delegates, the winner of each of the 8 congressional districts gets 3 delegates.rottenborough said:
The rules are discussed here:Speedy said:
It is.Pulpstar said:Isn't Wisconsin more of a Missouri/South Carolina type state with it's delegate maths (Winner takes most ?)
But if Cruz wins by a double digit margin you can expect him to take all delegates.
http://frontloading.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/2016-republican-delegate-allocation_26.html
My head hurts.
The most likely outcome, therefore, is:
Cruz 30
Trump 9
Almost equally likely is:
Cruz 33
Trump 6
The Milwaukee suburbs are the home of the most economic conservatives in America, they are very rich, very republican and they hate things like healthcare, pensions, schools ect.
Their poster boys include such useless and incompetent people like Paul Ryan and Scott Walker, and much earlier Joe McCarthy of McCarthyism fame.
The GOP establishment is not located just in the D.C suburbs or Salt Lake City you know, they are also in Milwaukee, Orange County and the Upper East Side.0 -
Ronnie biographer said at 5'1", he was the shortest commissioned officer.rottenborough said:
Sad news. And a bit spooky, as only yesterday I was chatting with a work colleague about the two ronnies.TheScreamingEagles said:Ronnie Corbett has died.
My favourite The Two Ronnies sketch
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That CH4 documentary was utter s##t...I expected at least a good old hatchet job, and other than Matt Frei screaming racist bigot a load of times, nothing of any interest. With Trump's "colourful" history you would have thought they could fill an hour of tales of mafia running the building sector in NY, Atlantic City failures, divorces etc...MarqueeMark said:
The power of the Channel 4 documentary....TheScreamingEagles said:Trump sliding, Cruz and Kasich coming in on Betfair
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The 5ft 1 Inch Ronnie Corbett would be greatly amused at being called a giant
https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/7154972980846878770 -
LOL....at least he didn't talk about black-busters...TheScreamingEagles said:The 5ft 1 Inch Ronnie Corbett would be greatly amused at being called a giant
https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/7154972980846878770 -
He should have made those abortion comments just before Iowa, or before Super Tuesday, because those opinions are popular with religious conservatives.Richard_Nabavi said:Wisconsin is an Open primary, which in past contests has helped Trump and disadvantaged Cruz.
Whether that will be the case this time remains to be seen. Wisconsin polling is sparse but seems to show Cruz ahead:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/wi/wisconsin_republican_presidential_primary-3763.html
More generally, with his abortion comments Trump has probably tested to destruction the theory that you can shoot from the hip at random targets without any electoral downside.
But in Wisconsin and the states that follow it there are not many religious anti-abortion conservatives. It's smart politics for places like Kansas but not for places like California.
Politically the timing was the problem not the substance, especially when there are many NeverTrumps who hold views even more extreme:
https://twitter.com/Green_Footballs/status/715255477769142272
So right now you can enjoy the spectacle of anti-abortionists defending abortion just because they hate Trump.0 -
What a scandal - Labour losing a high profile election would be bad news for the Labour leader. Well I never. We could turn the clock back and have "Vote Ken, Keep Blair".TheScreamingEagles said:Sadiq Khan's bid to be London Mayor was dealt a blow today as hard-Left activists admitted backing him to “strengthen” Jeremy Corbyn.
The Standard can reveal that leaders of the controversial Momentum group told activists to support the Labour candidate because defeat in London on May 5 would “undermine” his party’s leader. Tories seized on the revelation by taunting: “Vote Khan, Get Corbyn.”
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/revealed-hardleft-plot-to-back-sadiq-khan-in-bid-to-strengthen-corbyn-a3215066.html0 -
Cameron and Osborne on the wrong side of this. But how will that play out?
"However, our next question did uncover huge differences between the two sides. We listed ten possible causes of our economic problems and asked people to say which two or three they blame most. The top three picked by the “in” voters are completely different from the three picked by “out” voters:
For “in” voters, the top three are: British banks, the Conservative-led government since 2010 and growing inequality.
For “out” voters they are: EU rules and regulations, immigrants willing to work for low wages and the last Labour government."
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/03/24/eu-referendum-provincial-england-versus-london-and/0 -
I think we could all agree with that.TheScreamingEagles said:The 5ft 1 Inch Ronnie Corbett would be greatly amused at being called a giant
https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/7154972980846878770 -
Is that not simply representative of the fact that overall In = Left, Out = Right.TCPoliticalBetting said:Cameron and Osborne on the wrong side of this. But how will that play out?
"However, our next question did uncover huge differences between the two sides. We listed ten possible causes of our economic problems and asked people to say which two or three they blame most. The top three picked by the “in” voters are completely different from the three picked by “out” voters:
For “in” voters, the top three are: British banks, the Conservative-led government since 2010 and growing inequality.
For “out” voters they are: EU rules and regulations, immigrants willing to work for low wages and the last Labour government."
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/03/24/eu-referendum-provincial-england-versus-london-and/0 -
In one of his sketches he referred to himself as "Ronnie Giant Corbett".Speedy said:
I think we could all agree with that.TheScreamingEagles said:The 5ft 1 Inch Ronnie Corbett would be greatly amused at being called a giant
https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/715497298084687877
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New poll from N.Y.
https://twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/status/715487302412165120
It's still 20 days till voting there.
Trump's odds in the betting markets will get a boost after N.Y votes, but until then it looks like it's all grim news for him.
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http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/31/paul-dacre-eu-subsidies-hypocrisy-daily-mail-euro-lies
Fun little piece...Polly going both barrels on hypocrisy, owning a 2nd home, pretending to represent a class of people you don't actually spend anytime associating with...0 -
We urgently need a weaker Pound as we reach a new all time high current account deficit:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35931968
Roll on the Brexit!0 -
And The Mail thrives, whilst The Guardian dies. Funny old world.FrancisUrquhart said:http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/31/paul-dacre-eu-subsidies-hypocrisy-daily-mail-euro-lies
Fun little piece...Polly going both barrels on hypocrisy, owning a 2nd home, pretending to represent a class of people you don't actually spend anytime associating with...0 -
The FBI has offered to unlock another iPhone for police after revealing it could access the handset used by San Bernardino killer Syed Farook.
Police in Arkansas wish to unlock an iPhone and iPod belonging to two teenagers accused of killing a couple, according to the Associated Press (AP).
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-359332390 -
And to ram the point home, that article loads with a begging letter pop-up from Guardian Towers.watford30 said:
And The Mail thrives, whilst The Guardian dies. Funny old world.FrancisUrquhart said:http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/31/paul-dacre-eu-subsidies-hypocrisy-daily-mail-euro-lies
Fun little piece...Polly going both barrels on hypocrisy, owning a 2nd home, pretending to represent a class of people you don't actually spend anytime associating with...0 -
On topic, I am finding this GOP race hard to call.
Trump is going to finish way clear of the field.
But
He is going out of his way to give every incentive to the party hierachy so if it's a contested convention, he may well lose the nomination.
But
The next-in-line is Cruz, who is almost as bad a candidate and would perhaps make a worse president (not that either is likely to get the chance)
But
Can the GOP really skip both leading candidates?
But
Cruz might have a little local difficulty
But
The mainstream media seems to be keeping schtum on it, Trump may have difficulty using it against him and Kasich seems disinclined to.
Also
Is Trump's refusal to back any other nominee is an excuse to pass over him or to give in to him
Because
He won't be able to register as a third-party candidate in a lot of states, as the deadlines for filing will have passed by late August in some, and others have rules that don't permit candidates from primaries to contest the general for any other party.
But
Might he run as a spoiler anyway, where he can?
And
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I'm not sure why Polly thinks that Dacre getting £88,000 in a year from the CAP is evidence we should vote Remain. Sounds like a good reason to Vote Leave to me ...FrancisUrquhart said:http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/31/paul-dacre-eu-subsidies-hypocrisy-daily-mail-euro-lies
Fun little piece...Polly going both barrels on hypocrisy, owning a 2nd home, pretending to represent a class of people you don't actually spend anytime associating with...0 -
Philip_Thompson said:
ITCPoliticalBetting said:Cameron and Osborne on the wrong side of this. But how will that play out?
"However, our next question did uncover huge differences between the two sides. We listed ten possible causes of our economic problems and asked people to say which two or three they blame most. The top three picked by the “in” voters are completely different from the three picked by “out” voters:
For “in” voters, the top three are: British banks, the Conservative-led government since 2010 and growing inequality.
For “out” voters they are: EU rules and regulations, immigrants willing to work for low wages and the last Labour government."
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/03/24/eu-referendum-provincial-england-versus-london-and/
Nice to see our 'Conservative' PM siding with the economic flat earthers of the left...0 -
Don't interrupt her with logical argument and reasoning....she is on a role about out of touch elites...Philip_Thompson said:
I'm not sure why Polly thinks that Dacre getting £88,000 in a year from the CAP is evidence we should vote Remain. Sounds like a good reason to Vote Leave to me ...FrancisUrquhart said:http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/31/paul-dacre-eu-subsidies-hypocrisy-daily-mail-euro-lies
Fun little piece...Polly going both barrels on hypocrisy, owning a 2nd home, pretending to represent a class of people you don't actually spend anytime associating with...0 -
Polly has a point though. I was speaking to an elderly chap after Osborne's 'Granny Tax'. Egged on by the Daily Mail, he was bewailing the 'fact' that the treacherous Tories had rendered him a pauper. He later discovered the measures in that budget had made him better off.FrancisUrquhart said:http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/31/paul-dacre-eu-subsidies-hypocrisy-daily-mail-euro-lies
Fun little piece...Polly going both barrels on hypocrisy, owning a 2nd home, pretending to represent a class of people you don't actually spend anytime associating with...0 -
Is she related to Tyson?FrancisUrquhart said:
Don't interrupt her with logical argument and reasoning....she is on a role about out of touch elites...Philip_Thompson said:
I'm not sure why Polly thinks that Dacre getting £88,000 in a year from the CAP is evidence we should vote Remain. Sounds like a good reason to Vote Leave to me ...FrancisUrquhart said:http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/31/paul-dacre-eu-subsidies-hypocrisy-daily-mail-euro-lies
Fun little piece...Polly going both barrels on hypocrisy, owning a 2nd home, pretending to represent a class of people you don't actually spend anytime associating with...0 -
Ronnie Corbett:
I was just in the local park when a young woman in her late teens / early twenties who was listening to the radio on her phone said: "Is it true Ronnie Corbett has died?"
I said I didn't know, and a few minutes later she was gently sobbing.
It seems odd that such a young woman would react so strongly to the death of an entertainer whose best years were well before she was born.
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Sanders making real progress in New York on that poll - he was miles behind before. I know that he's technically dead from the figures, but if he did win Wisconsin (likely) and then New York (conceivable?) and then California (in that scenario likely), are the super-delegates really going to stay solid?
It must be fun to be a politician in California, which always votes almost last after the winners for both parties are clear, to suddenly acquire important significance, perhaps for both parties.0 -
Yikes.Patrick said:We urgently need a weaker Pound as we reach a new all time high current account deficit:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35931968
Roll on the Brexit!
7% of GDP is a new all time record, it's on the same level the USA reached just before they crashed in 2008.
The famous large double deficits (budget deficit and current account deficit) really point to an upcoming crash if there is not a major correction in economic policy.0 -
@paulhutcheon: Wow. Scottish FOI Commissioner reveals this email was sent to all staff on March 16 https://t.co/KskSoi1ceL0
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Sanders problem is simply that there is no primary where he might expect a blow out win given the PR nature of the Democrat allocation of delegates. He's just too far behind.NickPalmer said:Sanders making real progress in New York on that poll - he was miles behind before. I know that he's technically dead from the figures, but if he did win Wisconsin (likely) and then New York (conceivable?) and then California (in that scenario likely), are the super-delegates really going to stay solid?
It must be fun to be a politician in California, which always votes almost last after the winners for both parties are clear, to suddenly acquire important significance, perhaps for both parties.
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After Tata, I wonder if Osborne has the b8lls to cut green taxes.
It would certainly be an interesting pill for the left to swallow.0 -
Don't worry, we're in safe hands with George Osborne running the show...Speedy said:
Yikes.Patrick said:We urgently need a weaker Pound as we reach a new all time high current account deficit:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35931968
Roll on the Brexit!
7% of GDP is a new all time record, it's on the same level the USA reached just before they crashed in 2008.
The famous large double deficits (budget deficit and current account deficit) really point to an upcoming crash if there is not a major correction in economic policy.0 -
People like Ronnie Corbett don't just die.
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Ronnie Corbett – quite a year, as another of my childhood greats takes his last bow. RIP.0
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The irony of Trump is that if he'd been a little more measured and less unhinged he'd actually make a very good candidate.
He touches states and parts of the Democrat electorate that other Republican establishment/tea party candidates really don't, without alienating too much of the base, and I think his business experience/"can't be bought" lines were powerful ones. His policy thoughts on things like healthcare were brave and well thought through too.
Unfortunately he truly has NO filter, and insulting everyone with no diplomacy or judgment as to when to rein it in, advocating petty violence against disrupters, as well as taking anti-immigration rhetoric to the max, may have done for him.0 -
@Speedy - you seem to have predicted 28 of the last zero total Trump meltdowns.0
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Yes , a weaker Pound does not mean the Pound in you pocket is worth less . HmmmPatrick said:We urgently need a weaker Pound as we reach a new all time high current account deficit:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35931968
Roll on the Brexit!
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I'll see your "no remaining Sanders primary blowout" claim and raise you Montana and South DakotaJackW said:
Sanders problem is simply that there is no primary where he might expect a blow out win given the PR nature of the Democrat allocation of delegates. He's just too far behind.NickPalmer said:Sanders making real progress in New York on that poll - he was miles behind before. I know that he's technically dead from the figures, but if he did win Wisconsin (likely) and then New York (conceivable?) and then California (in that scenario likely), are the super-delegates really going to stay solid?
It must be fun to be a politician in California, which always votes almost last after the winners for both parties are clear, to suddenly acquire important significance, perhaps for both parties.0 -
Mr. Patrick,Patrick said:We urgently need a weaker Pound as we reach a new all time high current account deficit:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35931968
Roll on the Brexit!
I have been hearing about the need for a weaker pound for as long as I can remember, and, overall, in my lifetime the pound has become a lot weaker as has our industrial base. The plea that a weak pound helps exporters seems reasonable and is frequently parrotted; unfortunately it seems never to work out that way.
Contrast the UK's long term performance with that of Germany. The latter, until the advent of the Euro, built one of the most successful exporting economies on the planet on the basis of an ever strengthening currency. If Germany can do it why can't we?
I suspect the answer lies in the piss poor management and short-termism of our managerial class, but I stand to be corrected.0 -
I truly detest Cruz. Unpleasant, and Xtreme.
Does anyone out there like him?
Why do people still vote for him?0 -
I think there was a poll a few weeks ago which showed that if Trump was the GOP Nominee, it boosted Democrat turnout.Casino_Royale said:The irony of Trump is that if he'd been a little more measured and less unhinged he'd actually make a very good candidate.
He touches states and parts of the Democrat electorate that other Republican establishment/tea party candidates really don't, without alienating too much of the base, and I think his business experience/"can't be bought" lines were powerful ones. His policy thoughts on things like healthcare were brave and well thought through too.
Unfortunately he truly has NO filter, and insulting everyone with no diplomacy or judgment as to when to rein it in, advocating petty violence against disrupters, as well as taking anti-immigration rhetoric to the max, may have done for him.0 -
He's not Trump?Casino_Royale said:I truly detest Cruz. Unpleasant, and Xtreme.
Does anyone out there like him?
Why do people still vote for him?0 -
Don't worry, we're in safe hands with George Osborne running the show...
Ozzy has made the easy calls and none of the hard ones. He now has no political capital left to make them - having pissed it away needlessly on pasties, nobbling the disabled, Remain, etc, etc. How are we going to wipe out these two deficits? I don't see any 'in it together' major efforts coming along. There are too many ringfenced areas, too many sacred cows. Pensioners, int'l aid, EU subs, NHS, etc - such that all the heavy lifting is pushed onto a far too narrow slice of the economy.
What will happen is that he (we) will fail and then the market will impose the necessary corrections. This is rarely good. At some point UK debt will get expensive. The Pound will collapse. Austerity will become real.0 -
Not too surprised to see Sanders closing the gap a fair way in New York.
I've been a bit confused to see people talking about the Northeast primaries as guaranteed Clinton blowouts -- it's the most left-wing part of the country, and most of the states are whiter than the national average too (though admittedly the fact most of them are closed to independents harms Sanders). Sanders will give her a good run for her money in a lot of them I think, though not enough to actually win the nomination.0 -
'At some point UK debt will get expensive. The Pound will collapse. Austerity will become real'
Care to take a guess at when that will be?0 -
If you are correct, Mr. Speedy, prepare for a crash. I think we get a recession every ten years or so, thus the next one should be due in 2017/18, and George Osborne is not going to change tack before then.Speedy said:
Yikes.Patrick said:We urgently need a weaker Pound as we reach a new all time high current account deficit:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35931968
Roll on the Brexit!
7% of GDP is a new all time record, it's on the same level the USA reached just before they crashed in 2008.
The famous large double deficits (budget deficit and current account deficit) really point to an upcoming crash if there is not a major correction in economic policy.
The one good thing about such a recession/crash is that it will finally lay bare Osborne's hopeless stewardship of the economy and his failure to "fix the roof while the sun shines" and thus finally put paid to his political ambitions.0 -
Hillary voters seem to be all absentee whereas Bernie needs big turnouts. Thankfully the Democrats seem to be doing their best to stop that for my anti-Bernie book (See Arizona)Danny565 said:Not too surprised to see Sanders closing the gap a fair way in New York.
I've been a bit confused to see people talking about the Northeast primaries as guaranteed Clinton blowouts -- it's the most left-wing part of the country, and most of the states are whiter than the national average too (though admittedly the fact most of them are closed to independents harms Sanders). Sanders will give her a good run for her money in a lot of them I think, though not enough to actually win the nomination.
I've got faith in the USA's most cynical political machine.0 -
Yup, probably too late to chance perceptions now.TheScreamingEagles said:
I think there was a poll a few weeks ago which showed that if Trump was the GOP Nominee, it boosted Democrat turnout.Casino_Royale said:The irony of Trump is that if he'd been a little more measured and less unhinged he'd actually make a very good candidate.
He touches states and parts of the Democrat electorate that other Republican establishment/tea party candidates really don't, without alienating too much of the base, and I think his business experience/"can't be bought" lines were powerful ones. His policy thoughts on things like healthcare were brave and well thought through too.
Unfortunately he truly has NO filter, and insulting everyone with no diplomacy or judgment as to when to rein it in, advocating petty violence against disrupters, as well as taking anti-immigration rhetoric to the max, may have done for him.
But still, I think he could have beaten Hillary.0 -
Debt will one day be more expensive but ...Patrick said:Don't worry, we're in safe hands with George Osborne running the show...
Ozzy has made the easy calls and none of the hard ones. He now has no political capital left to make them - having pissed it away needlessly on pasties, nobbling the disabled, Remain, etc, etc. How are we going to wipe out these two deficits? I don't see any 'in it together' major efforts coming along. There are too many ringfenced areas, too many sacred cows. Pensioners, int'l aid, EU subs, NHS, etc - such that all the heavy lifting is pushed onto a far too narrow slice of the economy.
What will happen is that he (we) will fail and then the market will impose the necessary corrections. This is rarely good. At some point UK debt will get expensive. The Pound will collapse. Austerity will become real.
The deficit is going down and trending towards a surplus.
Household debt to GDP is also going down.
The opposite was true for both of these before the last crash. We are going in the right direction at least.0 -
I'm losing track of my childhood TV & Radio favourite chums who are leaving us in 2016.0
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The one thing which hasn't gone in the right direction to prepare for the day debt becomes more expensive is house prices.Philip_Thompson said:
Debt will one day be more expensive but ...Patrick said:Don't worry, we're in safe hands with George Osborne running the show...
Ozzy has made the easy calls and none of the hard ones. He now has no political capital left to make them - having pissed it away needlessly on pasties, nobbling the disabled, Remain, etc, etc. How are we going to wipe out these two deficits? I don't see any 'in it together' major efforts coming along. There are too many ringfenced areas, too many sacred cows. Pensioners, int'l aid, EU subs, NHS, etc - such that all the heavy lifting is pushed onto a far too narrow slice of the economy.
What will happen is that he (we) will fail and then the market will impose the necessary corrections. This is rarely good. At some point UK debt will get expensive. The Pound will collapse. Austerity will become real.
The deficit is going down and trending towards a surplus.
Household debt to GDP is also going down.
The opposite was true for both of these before the last crash. We are going in the right direction at least.0 -
It is interesting...all the heat on Trump for his remarks / policies and you would think Cruz was a far more moderate candidate, when he is all guns and god based.Casino_Royale said:I truly detest Cruz. Unpleasant, and Xtreme.
Does anyone out there like him?
Why do people still vote for him?0 -
Martin Lewis gives his two pennies on the EU ref:
"Dear Martin, can you please let us know the straight facts of what'll happen if we leave the EU?"
I've been swamped with many people asking me this question. So I want to answer.... "no I can't!" And if anyone else tells you they can, they are a liar.
The EU issue isn't black or white. I find it very frustrating that most politicians who are pro-EU say all elements of the EU are good; and most politicians who are anti say all elements are bad. Neither is true, like the rest of life it's a mix.
There are no simple answers. What'll happen if we leave is uncertain. What will happen if we stay is more certain - though still not without some questions and risks.
Don't read 'uncertain' as bad. Read it simply as uncertain.
It may be that leaving makes the UK a tiger economy in control of its own destiny, and we reap the benefits; or we end up on the outskirts of everything, ignored and struggling with trade. Or more likely somewhere in between.
You have to make this decision based on your political attitude to Europe, how risk averse you are and what your gut instinct tells you.
And even after that you need to accept you may make a good decision and have a bad outcome. Or make a bad decision then have a good one.
Martin0 -
William Keegan in Observer has been banging on about current account deficit for months and months.HurstLlama said:
If you are correct, Mr. Speedy, prepare for a crash. I think we get a recession every ten years or so, thus the next one should be due in 2017/18, and George Osborne is not going to change tack before then.Speedy said:
Yikes.Patrick said:We urgently need a weaker Pound as we reach a new all time high current account deficit:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35931968
Roll on the Brexit!
7% of GDP is a new all time record, it's on the same level the USA reached just before they crashed in 2008.
The famous large double deficits (budget deficit and current account deficit) really point to an upcoming crash if there is not a major correction in economic policy.
The one good thing about such a recession/crash is that it will finally lay bare Osborne's hopeless stewardship of the economy and his failure to "fix the roof while the sun shines" and thus finally put paid to his political ambitions.0 -
Osborne's not been looking after the pennies (Billions) (Screwing up disability, delays on tax credit changes) recently, so the (pounds) trillions won't really look after themselves..HurstLlama said:
If you are correct, Mr. Speedy, prepare for a crash. I think we get a recession every ten years or so, thus the next one should be due in 2017/18, and George Osborne is not going to change tack before then.Speedy said:
Yikes.Patrick said:We urgently need a weaker Pound as we reach a new all time high current account deficit:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35931968
Roll on the Brexit!
7% of GDP is a new all time record, it's on the same level the USA reached just before they crashed in 2008.
The famous large double deficits (budget deficit and current account deficit) really point to an upcoming crash if there is not a major correction in economic policy.
The one good thing about such a recession/crash is that it will finally lay bare Osborne's hopeless stewardship of the economy and his failure to "fix the roof while the sun shines" and thus finally put paid to his political ambitions.0 -
Have the Telegraph dumped comments totally?
I can't find any today.0 -
LALALALArottenborough said:
William Keegan in Observer has been banging on about current account deficit for months and months.HurstLlama said:
If you are correct, Mr. Speedy, prepare for a crash. I think we get a recession every ten years or so, thus the next one should be due in 2017/18, and George Osborne is not going to change tack before then.Speedy said:
Yikes.Patrick said:We urgently need a weaker Pound as we reach a new all time high current account deficit:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35931968
Roll on the Brexit!
7% of GDP is a new all time record, it's on the same level the USA reached just before they crashed in 2008.
The famous large double deficits (budget deficit and current account deficit) really point to an upcoming crash if there is not a major correction in economic policy.
The one good thing about such a recession/crash is that it will finally lay bare Osborne's hopeless stewardship of the economy and his failure to "fix the roof while the sun shines" and thus finally put paid to his political ambitions.
George isn't listening
lets buy more stuff from China.0 -
Supply and demand. There's little to be done with that.williamglenn said:
The one thing which hasn't gone in the right direction to prepare for the day debt becomes more expensive is house prices.Philip_Thompson said:
Debt will one day be more expensive but ...Patrick said:Don't worry, we're in safe hands with George Osborne running the show...
Ozzy has made the easy calls and none of the hard ones. He now has no political capital left to make them - having pissed it away needlessly on pasties, nobbling the disabled, Remain, etc, etc. How are we going to wipe out these two deficits? I don't see any 'in it together' major efforts coming along. There are too many ringfenced areas, too many sacred cows. Pensioners, int'l aid, EU subs, NHS, etc - such that all the heavy lifting is pushed onto a far too narrow slice of the economy.
What will happen is that he (we) will fail and then the market will impose the necessary corrections. This is rarely good. At some point UK debt will get expensive. The Pound will collapse. Austerity will become real.
The deficit is going down and trending towards a surplus.
Household debt to GDP is also going down.
The opposite was true for both of these before the last crash. We are going in the right direction at least.
My solution is to increase supply by a liberalisation of planning laws and reduction in the greenbelt but that's a non starter politically.
Others solution is to slash immigration to reduce demand but that hasn't happened and will have knock on effects elsewhere.
Either way though it's not the macroeconomic situation which is causing house prices in isolation.0 -
4king dire numbers Mr L.HurstLlama said:
If you are correct, Mr. Speedy, prepare for a crash. I think we get a recession every ten years or so, thus the next one should be due in 2017/18, and George Osborne is not going to change tack before then.Speedy said:
Yikes.Patrick said:We urgently need a weaker Pound as we reach a new all time high current account deficit:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35931968
Roll on the Brexit!
7% of GDP is a new all time record, it's on the same level the USA reached just before they crashed in 2008.
The famous large double deficits (budget deficit and current account deficit) really point to an upcoming crash if there is not a major correction in economic policy.
The one good thing about such a recession/crash is that it will finally lay bare Osborne's hopeless stewardship of the economy and his failure to "fix the roof while the sun shines" and thus finally put paid to his political ambitions.
totally avoidable if action is taken, but then you look at how they handled the steel crisis.....0 -
You're right, for most people it doesn't.MarkSenior said:
Yes , a weaker Pound does not mean the Pound in you pocket is worth less . HmmmPatrick said:We urgently need a weaker Pound as we reach a new all time high current account deficit:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35931968
Roll on the Brexit!
For me, with US dollar liabilities and sterling income it is a little bit of a bind, but I suspect that your sympathy for people in my position may be limited0 -
House price problem = 100% due to insane political restrictions on the supply of land (aka Planning Laws). The trouble is that to resolve will require upsetting Middle England - the ones George needs to get elected party leader. Ditto pensioners, esp wealthy pensioners.0
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It's not really that. To try and follow the style of analogy, he's been dressing up in a suit in the morning, going to the pub in the evening bragging about how great a job he has, but never actually earning a living.Pulpstar said:
Osborne's not been looking after the pennies (Billions) (Screwing up disability, delays on tax credit changes) recently, so the (pounds) trillions won't really look after themselves..HurstLlama said:
If you are correct, Mr. Speedy, prepare for a crash. I think we get a recession every ten years or so, thus the next one should be due in 2017/18, and George Osborne is not going to change tack before then.Speedy said:
Yikes.Patrick said:We urgently need a weaker Pound as we reach a new all time high current account deficit:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35931968
Roll on the Brexit!
7% of GDP is a new all time record, it's on the same level the USA reached just before they crashed in 2008.
The famous large double deficits (budget deficit and current account deficit) really point to an upcoming crash if there is not a major correction in economic policy.
The one good thing about such a recession/crash is that it will finally lay bare Osborne's hopeless stewardship of the economy and his failure to "fix the roof while the sun shines" and thus finally put paid to his political ambitions.0 -
Harold Wilson woz right!Charles said:
You're right, for most people it doesn't.MarkSenior said:
Yes , a weaker Pound does not mean the Pound in you pocket is worth less . HmmmPatrick said:We urgently need a weaker Pound as we reach a new all time high current account deficit:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35931968
Roll on the Brexit!
For me, with US dollar liabilities and sterling income it is a little bit of a bind, but I suspect that your sympathy for people in my position may be limited0 -
I agree. Serial devaluation is just feeding the addiction rather than tackling the problem.HurstLlama said:
Mr. Patrick,Patrick said:We urgently need a weaker Pound as we reach a new all time high current account deficit:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35931968
Roll on the Brexit!
I have been hearing about the need for a weaker pound for as long as I can remember, and, overall, in my lifetime the pound has become a lot weaker as has our industrial base. The plea that a weak pound helps exporters seems reasonable and is frequently parrotted; unfortunately it seems never to work out that way.
Contrast the UK's long term performance with that of Germany. The latter, until the advent of the Euro, built one of the most successful exporting economies on the planet on the basis of an ever strengthening currency. If Germany can do it why can't we?
I suspect the answer lies in the piss poor management and short-termism of our managerial class, but I stand to be corrected.0