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Her lawyer has had a lot of his mind.tlg86 said:
Sounds like she's been stitched up by her lawyer, feel very sorry for her.FrancisUrquhart said:
She has an interesting lawyer...Scott_P said:@DPJHodges: Tune in to LBC right now. Incredible live @IainDale interview with Suzanne Evans.
@iainjwatson: 1/2 LBC's Iain Dale asks Suzanne Evans if her lawyer intended to put allegations that Nigel Farage beat his wife in her court challenge0 -
One from the archives...they are all the same...Morris_Dancer said:I'd actually planned to watch Question Time tonight (well, see how it started) but there isn't one on.
Fiddlesticks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3tUqRBiMVo0 -
Mr. Urquhart, I largely agree, but was interested to see what the stances might be on Belgium (and whether shrieks of Islamophobia would arise).
Still, one will survive.0 -
Crikey
Adam Johnson was arrested last year on suspicion of possessing extreme animal porn, it has emerged
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/12202923/Adam-Johnson-to-be-sentenced-for-child-sex-offence.html0 -
Mr. Moses, to be fair, most men have had a gander.0
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I think Sanders might just be able to pull off a win in California if he keeps up the momentum.Plato_Says said:America Elects
California primary preferences:
Clinton: 48%
Sanders: 41%
Trump: 38%
Cruz: 27%
Kasich: 14%
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Yeap, not just your common or garden nonce, he appears to be into bestiality too. But the rozzers decided that wasn't serious enough to worry about.Moses_ said:Crikey
Adam Johnson was arrested last year on suspicion of possessing extreme animal porn, it has emerged
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/12202923/Adam-Johnson-to-be-sentenced-for-child-sex-offence.html0 -
It would be nice to have a proper panel of experts. Although to be honest I think we have probably heard most of the arguments now. Your Douglas Murray / Maajid Nawaz types vs the hand wringers. And ultimately nothing changes, we just go back to the rinse and repeat cycle.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Urquhart, I largely agree, but was interested to see what the stances might be on Belgium (and whether shrieks of Islamophobia would arise).
Still, one will survive.
BBC already publishing the "Not Islam / Belgium is terribly racist society" stuff.0 -
Mr Dancer, bestiality is deplorable but your apparently interest in feathered birds ....Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Moses, to be fair, most men have had a gander.
And male ones at that!!!!!0 -
Gander? MmmmmMorris_Dancer said:Mr. Moses, to be fair, most men have had a gander.
Is that where to goose someone comes from.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Goose0 -
I don't think that was a crime until fairly recently when Jack Straw was Home Secretary.Moses_ said:Crikey
Adam Johnson was arrested last year on suspicion of possessing extreme animal porn, it has emerged
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/12202923/Adam-Johnson-to-be-sentenced-for-child-sex-offence.html0 -
King Cole, I said most men. Obviously a man as pure and virtuous as myself maintains a higher standard.
Mr. Urquhart, aye, I read that article. It was not full of enlightenment.0 -
I believe some of the primary contests are open to registered Independents so that could have an impact.OllyT said:
Turnout in primaries is driven by the closeness of the race and has been a poor indicator of the GE. The party with the highest turnout at the primaries has gone on to lose 50% of the generals. High GOP turnout could be equally motivated by people trying to stop Trump. He has largely come through up to now because the anti-Trump vote has been split between Cruz, Rubio & Katich.
The election of Jeremy Corbyn has, apparently, brought many new members to the Labour Party but the concensus on here is that Labour are less electable now than when led by Ed Miliband. There is enthusiasm for Corbyn within Labour but less support outside.
Trump enthuses a significant minority but repels a goodly number too. There may well be Democrats who would support Trump - there are also likely to be Republicans who, if faced with a choice between Trump and HRC, will back Mrs Clinton.
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Why can't Trump price drop by .2 or so such that I can cash out and leave this crazy market alone.0
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Sorry Mr D, I've obviously misjudged you. However, I do have concerns about of some of your casual associates.Morris_Dancer said:King Cole, I said most men. Obviously a man as pure and virtuous as myself maintains a higher standard.
Mr. Urquhart, aye, I read that article. It was not full of enlightenment.
I also wonder if my post could be classed as homophobic! If so, and anyone has been offended, I apologise.0 -
If he plays his cards right he may even get to present the prizes at one of these prestigious events next year.FrancisUrquhart said:For those who missed it before..
Vegetarian Jeremy Corbyn attends British Kebab Awards as he calls on nation to eat salad with them
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/12203045/Vegetarian-Jeremy-Corbyn-attends-British-Kebab-Awards-as-he-calls-on-nation-to-eat-salad-with-them.html
The Daily Mash are going to be put out of business by the genuine newspapers if Corbyn becomes PM.0 -
If the Tory 'Leavers' in their manic obsessive way not only lost the referendum AND their chancellor AND their most successful leader for 25 years AND the next the general election..........
How we'd laugh!!!!!!!!0 -
Theodore Dalrymple on migrants:
http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/03/why-britain-and-europe-depends-on-migrants/0 -
National - IPSOS/Reuters
Trump 45 .. Cruz 28 .. Kasich 20
Clinton 50 .. Sanders 45
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/2016ReutersTrackingCorePolitical3.23.16.pdf0 -
Clinton must be a bit disturbed by how close Sanders is to her in a lot of these polls.JackW said:National - IPSOS/Reuters
Trump 45 .. Cruz 28 .. Kasich 20
Clinton 50 .. Sanders 45
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/2016ReutersTrackingCorePolitical3.23.16.pdf0 -
Sahil Kapur of "Bloomberg" looks at a potential path to the White House for Trump and the significant obstacles on the way :
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-03-24/donald-trump-s-tough-but-plausible-path-to-winning-the-white-house0 -
Just imagine the taunts from the terraces if he had somehow been found not guilty....Moses_ said:Crikey
Adam Johnson was arrested last year on suspicion of possessing extreme animal porn, it has emerged
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/12202923/Adam-Johnson-to-be-sentenced-for-child-sex-offence.html0 -
Not at all.AndyJS said:
Clinton must be a bit disturbed by how close Sanders is to her in a lot of these polls.JackW said:National - IPSOS/Reuters
Trump 45 .. Cruz 28 .. Kasich 20
Clinton 50 .. Sanders 45
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/2016ReutersTrackingCorePolitical3.23.16.pdf
Sanders is way adrift in delegates and whilst he'll continue to pick up states, Clinton will win many more often by large margins.
Bernie is staying in the race to keep HRC's feet to the fire and for leverage at the convention. It's also useful for Clinton to have a contest so as to sharpen her act and retain significant free media coverage.0 -
Well half the Democrat contest is over already, so Sanders would need to be leading in the national polls by some way to catch up now.AndyJS said:
Clinton must be a bit disturbed by how close Sanders is to her in a lot of these polls.JackW said:National - IPSOS/Reuters
Trump 45 .. Cruz 28 .. Kasich 20
Clinton 50 .. Sanders 45
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/2016ReutersTrackingCorePolitical3.23.16.pdf
I've posted in my profile what Sanders needs to make Superdelegates relevant.
It's difficult for him to say the least...0 -
On topic, Cameron's fall from favour is really quite startling.
At one point last year, I did consider that he might be invited back for another term by a grateful party. No chance of that happening now.0 -
Mr. Mark, and almost entirely of his own making.
Even Alexander faced mutiny (as did Caesar, for that matter. Hannibal, it should be noted, did not).0 -
Four years is a mighty long time in politics.MarqueeMark said:On topic, Cameron's fall from favour is really quite startling.
At one point last year, I did consider that he might be invited back for another term by a grateful party. No chance of that happening now.0 -
The turning point was probably when he revealed plans to scrap most Tory associations without consultation.MarqueeMark said:On topic, Cameron's fall from favour is really quite startling.
At one point last year, I did consider that he might be invited back for another term by a grateful party. No chance of that happening now.0 -
Had you told a Conservative backbench MP in September 1987 that not only would Margaret Thatcher not be Prime Minister on December 31st 1990, the MPs would have been the ones to depose her and the Berlin Wall would have come down, he'd have probably tried to have you committed.MarqueeMark said:On topic, Cameron's fall from favour is really quite startling.
At one point last year, I did consider that he might be invited back for another term by a grateful party. No chance of that happening now.
Events, dear boy, events, as yet another Conservative Prime Minister once opined.
Cameron is only in danger if and when he is deemed to be a hindrance to Conservative MPs retaining their seats and that were there another leader (Boris ?), said seats could and would be retained.
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39%?! Good grief that is incredible.NickPalmer said:
I think he's a busted flush with all communities, frankly. 44% of London voters come from ethnic minorities and 39% were born abroad. Galloway's last poll share rating was 1%.John_N said:What effect will the referendum result have on British emigration? Currently about 0.5% of the population skedaddle each year.
Who says? For many, immigration is the key issue. Leave have got Galloway to win votes from those who are pro-immigration. Contrary to what some have argued, Galloway is a big net gain for the Leave campaign, and he is respected by many of the 2.7 million Muslims in the country. He doesn't have so much respect among those who aren't Muslims, but few are going to vote Remain just because he's involved with Leave.Charles said:The infight?g and immigration heavy strategy that he [Farage] promotes is not helpful to leave.
I cannot stand this short termist pro-immigration society. What a drain we are on other nations, what a legacy we leave our own children.0 -
At the moment I can think of about 100 MPs who would be preferable.MarqueeMark said:On topic, Cameron's fall from favour is really quite startling.
At one point last year, I did consider that he might be invited back for another term by a grateful party. No chance of that happening now.
And I was an early Cameron advocate.
He has left his party behind to try and govern in the ungovernable centre.
There is no loyalty there.0 -
I'm sure Clinton remembers 08 and the mass of media exposure the extended democratic primary brought, especially with the short Republican primary.JackW said:
Not at all.AndyJS said:
Clinton must be a bit disturbed by how close Sanders is to her in a lot of these polls.JackW said:National - IPSOS/Reuters
Trump 45 .. Cruz 28 .. Kasich 20
Clinton 50 .. Sanders 45
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/2016ReutersTrackingCorePolitical3.23.16.pdf
Sanders is way adrift in delegates and whilst he'll continue to pick up states, Clinton will win many more often by large margins.
Bernie is staying in the race to keep HRC's feet to the fire and for leverage at the convention. It's also useful for Clinton to have a contest so as to sharpen her act and retain significant free media coverage.0 -
Clinton does not stand a chance when the Trump machine is turned against her.Alistair said:
I'm sure Clinton remembers 08 and the mass of media exposure the extended democratic primary brought, especially with the short Republican primary.JackW said:
Not at all.AndyJS said:
Clinton must be a bit disturbed by how close Sanders is to her in a lot of these polls.JackW said:National - IPSOS/Reuters
Trump 45 .. Cruz 28 .. Kasich 20
Clinton 50 .. Sanders 45
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/2016ReutersTrackingCorePolitical3.23.16.pdf
Sanders is way adrift in delegates and whilst he'll continue to pick up states, Clinton will win many more often by large margins.
Bernie is staying in the race to keep HRC's feet to the fire and for leverage at the convention. It's also useful for Clinton to have a contest so as to sharpen her act and retain significant free media coverage.
HCWNBPOTUS0 -
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Government policy since the eighties is to make London the centre of the world, what do you expect?Mortimer said:
39%?! Good grief that is incredible.NickPalmer said:
I think he's a busted flush with all communities, frankly. 44% of London voters come from ethnic minorities and 39% were born abroad. Galloway's last poll share rating was 1%.John_N said:What effect will the referendum result have on British emigration? Currently about 0.5% of the population skedaddle each year.
Who says? For many, immigration is the key issue. Leave have got Galloway to win votes from those who are pro-immigration. Contrary to what some have argued, Galloway is a big net gain for the Leave campaign, and he is respected by many of the 2.7 million Muslims in the country. He doesn't have so much respect among those who aren't Muslims, but few are going to vote Remain just because he's involved with Leave.Charles said:The infight?g and immigration heavy strategy that he [Farage] promotes is not helpful to leave.
I cannot stand this short termist pro-immigration society. What a drain we are on other nations, what a legacy we leave our own children.0 -
I am withholding my own judgement on Cameron's future pending his conduct during, and the outcome of, this referendum campaignMarqueeMark said:On topic, Cameron's fall from favour is really quite startling.
At one point last year, I did consider that he might be invited back for another term by a grateful party. No chance of that happening now.0 -
Reminds me of the bloke in court for having sex with a goat, the judge asked if the goat was distressed at any stage.FrancisUrquhart said:
Yeap, not just your common or garden nonce, he appears to be into bestiality too. But the rozzers decided that wasn't serious enough to worry about.Moses_ said:Crikey
Adam Johnson was arrested last year on suspicion of possessing extreme animal porn, it has emerged
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/12202923/Adam-Johnson-to-be-sentenced-for-child-sex-offence.html
"I don't know, its not easy to tell with goats".0 -
Who knows on the latter, but on the former he is in a great deal of danger then. Even if they do not represent a majority, you have significant numbers of Tories saying they think he is a liar and betrayer, and not just the usual suspects (although of course them as well). Close to evens at least think he is at least wrong on the most critical issue of the day, and apparently is a lot of members think that. That has to mean plenty will be worried about their seats under Cameron, if their local voters are inclined similarly (and it would seem the things about Cameron that would quiet the unrest, relatively good polling and so on, is diminishing or gone).stodge said:
Cameron is only in danger if and when he is deemed to be a hindrance to Conservative MPs retaining their seats and that were there another leader (Boris ?), said seats could and would be retained.MarqueeMark said:On topic, Cameron's fall from favour is really quite startling.
At one point last year, I did consider that he might be invited back for another term by a grateful party. No chance of that happening now.
It's far from certain a replacement would be better, or even certain that MPs are correct that their seats might be at risk under Cameron (or a Cameroon) if he continues to damage the party (as they see it) - but they seem determined to find out, and it does not seem they will be dissuaded. Since he is not planning to stay on anyway, how does Cameron find the will to fight them off, or marshal the support to do so?0 -
Very good of you CR, but I'm lost as to see why.Casino_Royale said:
I am withholding my own judgement on Cameron's future pending his conduct during, and the outcome of, this referendum campaignMarqueeMark said:On topic, Cameron's fall from favour is really quite startling.
At one point last year, I did consider that he might be invited back for another term by a grateful party. No chance of that happening now.
Cameron is all about the PR. When he can't even manage that, he is a busted flush.
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And that Thatcher begged Gorbachev to keep the wall standingstodge said:
Had you told a Conservative backbench MP in September 1987 that not only would Margaret Thatcher not be Prime Minister on December 31st 1990, the MPs would have been the ones to depose her and the Berlin Wall would have come down, he'd have probably tried to have you committed.MarqueeMark said:On topic, Cameron's fall from favour is really quite startling.
At one point last year, I did consider that he might be invited back for another term by a grateful party. No chance of that happening now.0 -
Spurious nonsense. Next you'll be telling me she invited Jimmy Saville and Augusto Pinochet round for tea at number 10.Alistair said:
And that Thatcher begged Gorbachev to keep the wall standingstodge said:
Had you told a Conservative backbench MP in September 1987 that not only would Margaret Thatcher not be Prime Minister on December 31st 1990, the MPs would have been the ones to depose her and the Berlin Wall would have come down, he'd have probably tried to have you committed.MarqueeMark said:On topic, Cameron's fall from favour is really quite startling.
At one point last year, I did consider that he might be invited back for another term by a grateful party. No chance of that happening now.0 -
Why would her lawyer do that though?tlg86 said:
Sounds like she's been stitched up by her lawyer, feel very sorry for her.FrancisUrquhart said:
She has an interesting lawyer...Scott_P said:@DPJHodges: Tune in to LBC right now. Incredible live @IainDale interview with Suzanne Evans.
@iainjwatson: 1/2 LBC's Iain Dale asks Suzanne Evans if her lawyer intended to put allegations that Nigel Farage beat his wife in her court challenge0 -
You think the Clinton and Democrat machine will be idle in return ....Mortimer said:
Clinton does not stand a chance when the Trump machine is turned against her.Alistair said:
I'm sure Clinton remembers 08 and the mass of media exposure the extended democratic primary brought, especially with the short Republican primary.JackW said:
Not at all.AndyJS said:
Clinton must be a bit disturbed by how close Sanders is to her in a lot of these polls.JackW said:National - IPSOS/Reuters
Trump 45 .. Cruz 28 .. Kasich 20
Clinton 50 .. Sanders 45
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/2016ReutersTrackingCorePolitical3.23.16.pdf
Sanders is way adrift in delegates and whilst he'll continue to pick up states, Clinton will win many more often by large margins.
Bernie is staying in the race to keep HRC's feet to the fire and for leverage at the convention. It's also useful for Clinton to have a contest so as to sharpen her act and retain significant free media coverage.
HCWNBPOTUS
It's a view.
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The TREND is towards LEAVE - and I suspect that many youngsters (<35) (Pro REMAIN) will be quite surprised when they are exposed to substantial negative publicity about the EU for a change.stodge said:Afternoon all
Not sure how much to read into the current polls. REMAIN has a reasonable lead with the phones, much more even online. Yet we still have three months to go which is an eternity. LEAVE has it to do but there's still time in which to do it.
The Budget and IDS resignation has undoubtedly had an effect but it will need other things to sustain that effect. Governments survive these storms by basically governing quietly - doing nothing dramatic and, as the sign at the cobblers shop says "time wounds all heels".
The reputation for governance takes a hit if gaffes and self-made crises become the norm rather than the exception. Some might then argue if the Government can't manage itself, how can it manage the country and as Major and Callaghan found out, nothing goes right and you're on the way out.
Cameron is nowhere near that yet but a sense of being out of control of events is insidious and not always obvious.
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I'm still a fan of David Cameron, even though I so annoyed with him at the moment for getting into this mess. I said a few weeks ago he needs a holiday and now he gone on one,I see SKY are doing the usual lazy media stuff. I really feel the security services should put a 'D' notice on the PM's whereabouts when he goes away. He has his family with him and it is a resort with thousands of other holidaymakers. Of course, if anything happens while he is away, all hell will break lose, the media will go into overdrive.
I suggested a few days ago, he needs a Deputy PM. I do hope this is being considered. That was an interesting comment he made that "he needs time to think." He certainly does and I hope he comes to the conclusion that he needs to refresh his team, he's getting some very bad advice IMO.0 -
Re Farage, I've spent a fair amount of time with him, he is very intelligent and always prepared to engage with people, he has dedicated 20 years to us leaving the EU so its understandable he is keen to be at the forefront of the campaign, I can't think of anybody with a better knowledge of how the EU works.
His resignation was poorly handled, a leadership contest would have been good for Ukip. I've no idea what's going on with Suzanne Evans who is a very impressive lady. Egos are everywhere in politics, Nigel is no exception.
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I don't know but it certainly seems odd behaviour for a lawyer to brief against their client.MP_SE said:
Why would her lawyer do that though?tlg86 said:
Sounds like she's been stitched up by her lawyer, feel very sorry for her.FrancisUrquhart said:
She has an interesting lawyer...Scott_P said:@DPJHodges: Tune in to LBC right now. Incredible live @IainDale interview with Suzanne Evans.
@iainjwatson: 1/2 LBC's Iain Dale asks Suzanne Evans if her lawyer intended to put allegations that Nigel Farage beat his wife in her court challenge0 -
Do you think Hillary will win North Carolina or FloridaJackW said:
You think the Clinton and Democrat machine will be idle in return ....Mortimer said:
Clinton does not stand a chance when the Trump machine is turned against her.Alistair said:
I'm sure Clinton remembers 08 and the mass of media exposure the extended democratic primary brought, especially with the short Republican primary.JackW said:
Not at all.AndyJS said:
Clinton must be a bit disturbed by how close Sanders is to her in a lot of these polls.JackW said:National - IPSOS/Reuters
Trump 45 .. Cruz 28 .. Kasich 20
Clinton 50 .. Sanders 45
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/2016ReutersTrackingCorePolitical3.23.16.pdf
Sanders is way adrift in delegates and whilst he'll continue to pick up states, Clinton will win many more often by large margins.
Bernie is staying in the race to keep HRC's feet to the fire and for leverage at the convention. It's also useful for Clinton to have a contest so as to sharpen her act and retain significant free media coverage.
HCWNBPOTUS
It's a view. ? 0 -
Both.Pulpstar said:
Do you think Hillary will win North Carolina or FloridaJackW said:
You think the Clinton and Democrat machine will be idle in return ....Mortimer said:
Clinton does not stand a chance when the Trump machine is turned against her.Alistair said:
I'm sure Clinton remembers 08 and the mass of media exposure the extended democratic primary brought, especially with the short Republican primary.JackW said:
Not at all.AndyJS said:
Clinton must be a bit disturbed by how close Sanders is to her in a lot of these polls.JackW said:National - IPSOS/Reuters
Trump 45 .. Cruz 28 .. Kasich 20
Clinton 50 .. Sanders 45
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/2016ReutersTrackingCorePolitical3.23.16.pdf
Sanders is way adrift in delegates and whilst he'll continue to pick up states, Clinton will win many more often by large margins.
Bernie is staying in the race to keep HRC's feet to the fire and for leverage at the convention. It's also useful for Clinton to have a contest so as to sharpen her act and retain significant free media coverage.
HCWNBPOTUS
It's a view. ?
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People don't mind Trump's weaknesses - in fact some of them celebrate themZJackW said:
You think the Clinton and Democrat machine will be idle in return ....Mortimer said:
Clinton does not stand a chance when the Trump machine is turned against her.Alistair said:
I'm sure Clinton remembers 08 and the mass of media exposure the extended democratic primary brought, especially with the short Republican primary.JackW said:
Not at all.AndyJS said:
Clinton must be a bit disturbed by how close Sanders is to her in a lot of these polls.JackW said:National - IPSOS/Reuters
Trump 45 .. Cruz 28 .. Kasich 20
Clinton 50 .. Sanders 45
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/2016ReutersTrackingCorePolitical3.23.16.pdf
Sanders is way adrift in delegates and whilst he'll continue to pick up states, Clinton will win many more often by large margins.
Bernie is staying in the race to keep HRC's feet to the fire and for leverage at the convention. It's also useful for Clinton to have a contest so as to sharpen her act and retain significant free media coverage.
HCWNBPOTUS
It's a view.
Hilary has no 'negative cheerleaders' that I know of.0 -
I thought Evans handled the interview with Dale very well. It sounded like she thinks that Farage surrounded himself with some idiots (malicious or otherwise).blackburn63 said:Re Farage, I've spent a fair amount of time with him, he is very intelligent and always prepared to engage with people, he has dedicated 20 years to us leaving the EU so its understandable he is keen to be at the forefront of the campaign, I can't think of anybody with a better knowledge of how the EU works.
His resignation was poorly handled, a leadership contest would have been good for Ukip. I've no idea what's going on with Suzanne Evans who is a very impressive lady. Egos are everywhere in politics, Nigel is no exception.0 -
And Trump's huge negative numbers are just a fiction of the pollster's imagination?Mortimer said:
People don't mind Trump's weaknesses - in fact some of them celebrate themZJackW said:
You think the Clinton and Democrat machine will be idle in return ....Mortimer said:
Clinton does not stand a chance when the Trump machine is turned against her.Alistair said:
I'm sure Clinton remembers 08 and the mass of media exposure the extended democratic primary brought, especially with the short Republican primary.JackW said:
Not at all.AndyJS said:
Clinton must be a bit disturbed by how close Sanders is to her in a lot of these polls.JackW said:National - IPSOS/Reuters
Trump 45 .. Cruz 28 .. Kasich 20
Clinton 50 .. Sanders 45
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/2016ReutersTrackingCorePolitical3.23.16.pdf
Sanders is way adrift in delegates and whilst he'll continue to pick up states, Clinton will win many more often by large margins.
Bernie is staying in the race to keep HRC's feet to the fire and for leverage at the convention. It's also useful for Clinton to have a contest so as to sharpen her act and retain significant free media coverage.
HCWNBPOTUS
It's a view.
Hilary has no 'negative cheerleaders' that I know of.0 -
Not sure what the Suzanne Evans bandwagon is about, to be honest.blackburn63 said:Re Farage, I've spent a fair amount of time with him, he is very intelligent and always prepared to engage with people, he has dedicated 20 years to us leaving the EU so its understandable he is keen to be at the forefront of the campaign, I can't think of anybody with a better knowledge of how the EU works.
His resignation was poorly handled, a leadership contest would have been good for Ukip. I've no idea what's going on with Suzanne Evans who is a very impressive lady. Egos are everywhere in politics, Nigel is no exception.
Diane James is far more lucid and comes across as far more cogent, IMHO.0 -
I didn't hear the interview but yes, 1 or 2 around him were dreadful. The month or so leading up to the GE was pure chaos.tlg86 said:
I thought Evans handled the interview with Dale very well. It sounded like she thinks that Farage surrounded himself with some idiots (malicious or otherwise).blackburn63 said:Re Farage, I've spent a fair amount of time with him, he is very intelligent and always prepared to engage with people, he has dedicated 20 years to us leaving the EU so its understandable he is keen to be at the forefront of the campaign, I can't think of anybody with a better knowledge of how the EU works.
His resignation was poorly handled, a leadership contest would have been good for Ukip. I've no idea what's going on with Suzanne Evans who is a very impressive lady. Egos are everywhere in politics, Nigel is no exception.0 -
People don't mind Trump's "weaknesses" so much that he has the biggest net negatives in modern POTUS history.Mortimer said:
People don't mind Trump's weaknesses - in fact some of them celebrate themZJackW said:
You think the Clinton and Democrat machine will be idle in return ....Mortimer said:
Clinton does not stand a chance when the Trump machine is turned against her.Alistair said:
I'm sure Clinton remembers 08 and the mass of media exposure the extended democratic primary brought, especially with the short Republican primary.JackW said:
Not at all.AndyJS said:
Clinton must be a bit disturbed by how close Sanders is to her in a lot of these polls.JackW said:National - IPSOS/Reuters
Trump 45 .. Cruz 28 .. Kasich 20
Clinton 50 .. Sanders 45
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/2016ReutersTrackingCorePolitical3.23.16.pdf
Sanders is way adrift in delegates and whilst he'll continue to pick up states, Clinton will win many more often by large margins.
Bernie is staying in the race to keep HRC's feet to the fire and for leverage at the convention. It's also useful for Clinton to have a contest so as to sharpen her act and retain significant free media coverage.
HCWNBPOTUS
It's a view.
Hilary has no 'negative cheerleaders' that I know of.
Perhaps you think in order to get to the White House Trump will find several million extra white working class males down the back of a sofa?0 -
I think they're both very good, Stephen Woolf is excellent too.Mortimer said:
Not sure what the Suzanne Evans bandwagon is about, to be honest.blackburn63 said:Re Farage, I've spent a fair amount of time with him, he is very intelligent and always prepared to engage with people, he has dedicated 20 years to us leaving the EU so its understandable he is keen to be at the forefront of the campaign, I can't think of anybody with a better knowledge of how the EU works.
His resignation was poorly handled, a leadership contest would have been good for Ukip. I've no idea what's going on with Suzanne Evans who is a very impressive lady. Egos are everywhere in politics, Nigel is no exception.
Diane James is far more lucid and comes across as far more cogent, IMHO.
A couple of MEPs I can think of are awful.0 -
A D notice would achieve the square root of sod all. His arrival was tweeted almost instantaneously.LadyBucket said:I'm still a fan of David Cameron, even though I so annoyed with him at the moment for getting into this mess. I said a few weeks ago he needs a holiday and now he gone on one,I see SKY are doing the usual lazy media stuff. I really feel the security services should put a 'D' notice on the PM's whereabouts when he goes away. He has his family with him and it is a resort with thousands of other holidaymakers. Of course, if anything happens while he is away, all hell will break lose, the media will go into overdrive.
I suggested a few days ago, he needs a Deputy PM. I do hope this is being considered. That was an interesting comment he made that "he needs time to think." He certainly does and I hope he comes to the conclusion that he needs to refresh his team, he's getting some very bad advice IMO.0 -
Shy Trumpers (Trumpeters?).Alistair said:
And Trump's huge negative numbers are just a fiction of the pollster's imagination?Mortimer said:
People don't mind Trump's weaknesses - in fact some of them celebrate themZJackW said:
You think the Clinton and Democrat machine will be idle in return ....Mortimer said:
Clinton does not stand a chance when the Trump machine is turned against her.Alistair said:
I'm sure Clinton remembers 08 and the mass of media exposure the extended democratic primary brought, especially with the short Republican primary.JackW said:
Not at all.AndyJS said:
Clinton must be a bit disturbed by how close Sanders is to her in a lot of these polls.JackW said:National - IPSOS/Reuters
Trump 45 .. Cruz 28 .. Kasich 20
Clinton 50 .. Sanders 45
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/2016ReutersTrackingCorePolitical3.23.16.pdf
Sanders is way adrift in delegates and whilst he'll continue to pick up states, Clinton will win many more often by large margins.
Bernie is staying in the race to keep HRC's feet to the fire and for leverage at the convention. It's also useful for Clinton to have a contest so as to sharpen her act and retain significant free media coverage.
HCWNBPOTUS
It's a view.
Hilary has no 'negative cheerleaders' that I know of.
You heard it here first.
For each liberal her offends he secures the vote of a Busher or Reganite that would never vote for Romney.
The last 4 presidentials seem to me to have been won by the most radical candidates acceptable to their parties.
Clinton is steady as she goes. Not someone to reach across boundaries.0 -
Perhaps Clinton just won't encourage people to vote for her?JackW said:
People don't mind Trump's "weaknesses" so much that he has the biggest net negatives in modern POTUS history.Mortimer said:
People don't mind Trump's weaknesses - in fact some of them celebrate themZJackW said:
You think the Clinton and Democrat machine will be idle in return ....Mortimer said:
Clinton does not stand a chance when the Trump machine is turned against her.Alistair said:
I'm sure Clinton remembers 08 and the mass of media exposure the extended democratic primary brought, especially with the short Republican primary.JackW said:
Not at all.AndyJS said:
Clinton must be a bit disturbed by how close Sanders is to her in a lot of these polls.JackW said:National - IPSOS/Reuters
Trump 45 .. Cruz 28 .. Kasich 20
Clinton 50 .. Sanders 45
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/2016ReutersTrackingCorePolitical3.23.16.pdf
Sanders is way adrift in delegates and whilst he'll continue to pick up states, Clinton will win many more often by large margins.
Bernie is staying in the race to keep HRC's feet to the fire and for leverage at the convention. It's also useful for Clinton to have a contest so as to sharpen her act and retain significant free media coverage.
HCWNBPOTUS
It's a view.
Hilary has no 'negative cheerleaders' that I know of.
Perhaps you think Trump will find several million extra white working class males down the back of a sofa to get to the White House?
How do you account for GOP primary turnout JackW? Especially given Dem primary figures are flattered by Bernians.
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What do you make Trump's chance of winning the Presidency to be?Mortimer said:
Perhaps Clinton just won't encourage people to vote for her?JackW said:
People don't mind Trump's "weaknesses" so much that he has the biggest net negatives in modern POTUS history.Mortimer said:
People don't mind Trump's weaknesses - in fact some of them celebrate themZJackW said:
You think the Clinton and Democrat machine will be idle in return ....Mortimer said:
Clinton does not stand a chance when the Trump machine is turned against her.Alistair said:
I'm sure Clinton remembers 08 and the mass of media exposure the extended democratic primary brought, especially with the short Republican primary.JackW said:
Not at all.AndyJS said:
Clinton must be a bit disturbed by how close Sanders is to her in a lot of these polls.JackW said:National - IPSOS/Reuters
Trump 45 .. Cruz 28 .. Kasich 20
Clinton 50 .. Sanders 45
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/2016ReutersTrackingCorePolitical3.23.16.pdf
Sanders is way adrift in delegates and whilst he'll continue to pick up states, Clinton will win many more often by large margins.
Bernie is staying in the race to keep HRC's feet to the fire and for leverage at the convention. It's also useful for Clinton to have a contest so as to sharpen her act and retain significant free media coverage.
HCWNBPOTUS
It's a view.
Hilary has no 'negative cheerleaders' that I know of.
Perhaps you think Trump will find several million extra white working class males down the back of a sofa to get to the White House?
How do you account for GOP primary turnout JackW? Especially given Dem primary figures are flattered by Bernians.0 -
His most challenging period in government is likely to be reconciling both party and country after a very narrow Remain win. He may face a vote, but I have my doubts any of the replacements would want to be associated with it. But he would need to respond to the vote. If he were to come out into Downing Street and say that our place in the EU is balanced on a knife edge, and this can only be seen as a vote to stand still and fight any further integration - he might get a breathing space to put his premiership back on track..Casino_Royale said:
I am withholding my own judgement on Cameron's future pending his conduct during, and the outcome of, this referendum campaignMarqueeMark said:On topic, Cameron's fall from favour is really quite startling.
At one point last year, I did consider that he might be invited back for another term by a grateful party. No chance of that happening now.
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Absolutely agree he and his family deserve a holiday. He says he wants time to think and maybe he may take the view to becmore neutral over EuropeHertsmere_Pubgoer said:
A D notice would achieve the square root of sod all. His arrival was tweeted almost instantaneously.LadyBucket said:I'm still a fan of David Cameron, even though I so annoyed with him at the moment for getting into this mess. I said a few weeks ago he needs a holiday and now he gone on one,I see SKY are doing the usual lazy media stuff. I really feel the security services should put a 'D' notice on the PM's whereabouts when he goes away. He has his family with him and it is a resort with thousands of other holidaymakers. Of course, if anything happens while he is away, all hell will break lose, the media will go into overdrive.
I suggested a few days ago, he needs a Deputy PM. I do hope this is being considered. That was an interesting comment he made that "he needs time to think." He certainly does and I hope he comes to the conclusion that he needs to refresh his team, he's getting some very bad advice IMO.0 -
If as Michael Crick suggests Ms Evans reports that Farage has beaten his wife that can surely only improve his support among UKIPersblackburn63 said:
I didn't hear the interview but yes, 1 or 2 around him were dreadful. The month or so leading up to the GE was pure chaos.tlg86 said:
I thought Evans handled the interview with Dale very well. It sounded like she thinks that Farage surrounded himself with some idiots (malicious or otherwise).blackburn63 said:Re Farage, I've spent a fair amount of time with him, he is very intelligent and always prepared to engage with people, he has dedicated 20 years to us leaving the EU so its understandable he is keen to be at the forefront of the campaign, I can't think of anybody with a better knowledge of how the EU works.
His resignation was poorly handled, a leadership contest would have been good for Ukip. I've no idea what's going on with Suzanne Evans who is a very impressive lady. Egos are everywhere in politics, Nigel is no exception.0 -
ICM EURef poll. Online
Remain 45 (+4)
Leave 43 (nc)
ICM's new #EURef poll is first to be carried entirely out after Brussels attacks
REMAIN 2% ahead after turnout weighting
Just 47% in ICM poll say they are 10/10 certain to vote suggesting a lower level than general elections
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Cameron is probably and understandably sick of the job, the scrutiny must be unbearable. He has a lovely wife and family and could make much more money far more easily. The problem lies with those who put him on a pedestal, politicians always fall off and look silly.0
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Don't get too sidetracked by primary turnouts. They're not a reliable indicator.Mortimer said:
Perhaps Clinton just won't encourage people to vote for her?JackW said:
People don't mind Trump's "weaknesses" so much that he has the biggest net negatives in modern POTUS history.Mortimer said:
People don't mind Trump's weaknesses - in fact some of them celebrate themZJackW said:
You think the Clinton and Democrat machine will be idle in return ....Mortimer said:
Clinton does not stand a chance when the Trump machine is turned against her.Alistair said:
I'm sure Clinton remembers 08 and the mass of media exposure the extended democratic primary brought, especially with the short Republican primary.JackW said:
Not at all.AndyJS said:
Clinton must be a bit disturbed by how close Sanders is to her in a lot of these polls.JackW said:National - IPSOS/Reuters
Trump 45 .. Cruz 28 .. Kasich 20
Clinton 50 .. Sanders 45
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/2016ReutersTrackingCorePolitical3.23.16.pdf
Sanders is way adrift in delegates and whilst he'll continue to pick up states, Clinton will win many more often by large margins.
Bernie is staying in the race to keep HRC's feet to the fire and for leverage at the convention. It's also useful for Clinton to have a contest so as to sharpen her act and retain significant free media coverage.
HCWNBPOTUS
It's a view.
Hilary has no 'negative cheerleaders' that I know of.
Perhaps you think Trump will find several million extra white working class males down the back of a sofa to get to the White House?
How do you account for GOP primary turnout JackW? Especially given Dem primary figures are flattered by Bernians.
Divisive figures drive turnout at general elections for both sides but there is simply a limit to Trump's appeal to the diminishing WWC demographic.0 -
The "heir to Blair" again!blackburn63 said:Cameron is probably and understandably sick of the job, the scrutiny must be unbearable. He has a lovely wife and family and could make much more money far more easily. The problem lies with those who put him on a pedestal, politicians always fall off and look silly.
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I hope you feel better for suggesting that Ukip voters condone violence against females.Roger said:
If as Michael Crick suggests Ms Evans reports that Farage has beaten his wife that can surely only improve his support among UKIPersblackburn63 said:
I didn't hear the interview but yes, 1 or 2 around him were dreadful. The month or so leading up to the GE was pure chaos.tlg86 said:
I thought Evans handled the interview with Dale very well. It sounded like she thinks that Farage surrounded himself with some idiots (malicious or otherwise).blackburn63 said:Re Farage, I've spent a fair amount of time with him, he is very intelligent and always prepared to engage with people, he has dedicated 20 years to us leaving the EU so its understandable he is keen to be at the forefront of the campaign, I can't think of anybody with a better knowledge of how the EU works.
His resignation was poorly handled, a leadership contest would have been good for Ukip. I've no idea what's going on with Suzanne Evans who is a very impressive lady. Egos are everywhere in politics, Nigel is no exception.0 -
Muted Trumpets?Mortimer said:
Shy Trumpers (Trumpeters?).Alistair said:
And Trump's huge negative numbers are just a fiction of the pollster's imagination?Mortimer said:
People don't mind Trump's weaknesses - in fact some of them celebrate themZJackW said:
You think the Clinton and Democrat machine will be idle in return ....Mortimer said:
Clinton does not stand a chance when the Trump machine is turned against her.Alistair said:
I'm sure Clinton remembers 08 and the mass of media exposure the extended democratic primary brought, especially with the short Republican primary.JackW said:
Not at all.AndyJS said:
Clinton must be a bit disturbed by how close Sanders is to her in a lot of these polls.JackW said:National - IPSOS/Reuters
Trump 45 .. Cruz 28 .. Kasich 20
Clinton 50 .. Sanders 45
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/2016ReutersTrackingCorePolitical3.23.16.pdf
Sanders is way adrift in delegates and whilst he'll continue to pick up states, Clinton will win many more often by large margins.
Bernie is staying in the race to keep HRC's feet to the fire and for leverage at the convention. It's also useful for Clinton to have a contest so as to sharpen her act and retain significant free media coverage.
HCWNBPOTUS
It's a view.
Hilary has no 'negative cheerleaders' that I know of.
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The comparisons are there for all to see, with the obvious exception of the lovely wife. Who would have believed 20 years ago how Blair would be regarded now.OldKingCole said:
The "heir to Blair" again!blackburn63 said:Cameron is probably and understandably sick of the job, the scrutiny must be unbearable. He has a lovely wife and family and could make much more money far more easily. The problem lies with those who put him on a pedestal, politicians always fall off and look silly.
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You're just running these Europe posts to distract people from George is crap.TheScreamingEagles said:ICM EURef poll. Online
Remain 45 (+4)
Leave 43 (nc)
ICM's new #EURef poll is first to be carried entirely out after Brussels attacks
REMAIN 2% ahead after turnout weighting
Just 47% in ICM poll say they are 10/10 certain to vote suggesting a lower level than general elections
Read through the threads of the last 2 weeks and you'll see nobody is interested in EUref.0 -
Cruz: "Donald Trump, you're a snivelling coward."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lSjIG_vy5M
(Apologies for the bombastic video edit. It seems to be the only version on YouTube at the moment.)0 -
my mum.blackburn63 said:
The comparisons are there for all to see, with the obvious exception of the lovely wife. Who would have believed 20 years ago how Blair would be regarded now.OldKingCole said:
The "heir to Blair" again!blackburn63 said:Cameron is probably and understandably sick of the job, the scrutiny must be unbearable. He has a lovely wife and family and could make much more money far more easily. The problem lies with those who put him on a pedestal, politicians always fall off and look silly.
she called him a scumbag headed for ruin from day one.0 -
And she was right, I was referring to Labour voters really. (Perhaps your mum is one)Alanbrooke said:
my mum.blackburn63 said:
The comparisons are there for all to see, with the obvious exception of the lovely wife. Who would have believed 20 years ago how Blair would be regarded now.OldKingCole said:
The "heir to Blair" again!blackburn63 said:Cameron is probably and understandably sick of the job, the scrutiny must be unbearable. He has a lovely wife and family and could make much more money far more easily. The problem lies with those who put him on a pedestal, politicians always fall off and look silly.
she called him a scumbag headed for ruin from day one.0 -
Yes, he does deserve a holiday.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Absolutely agree he and his family deserve a holiday. He says he wants time to think and maybe he may take the view to becmore neutral over EuropeHertsmere_Pubgoer said:
A D notice would achieve the square root of sod all. His arrival was tweeted almost instantaneously.LadyBucket said:I'm still a fan of David Cameron, even though I so annoyed with him at the moment for getting into this mess. I said a few weeks ago he needs a holiday and now he gone on one,I see SKY are doing the usual lazy media stuff. I really feel the security services should put a 'D' notice on the PM's whereabouts when he goes away. He has his family with him and it is a resort with thousands of other holidaymakers. Of course, if anything happens while he is away, all hell will break lose, the media will go into overdrive.
I suggested a few days ago, he needs a Deputy PM. I do hope this is being considered. That was an interesting comment he made that "he needs time to think." He certainly does and I hope he comes to the conclusion that he needs to refresh his team, he's getting some very bad advice IMO.
The chances of him being anything less then 100% Remain are vanishingly close to zero.
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She wasn't exactly big on Labour.blackburn63 said:
And she was right, I was referring to Labour voters really. (Perhaps your mum is one)Alanbrooke said:
my mum.blackburn63 said:
The comparisons are there for all to see, with the obvious exception of the lovely wife. Who would have believed 20 years ago how Blair would be regarded now.OldKingCole said:
The "heir to Blair" again!blackburn63 said:Cameron is probably and understandably sick of the job, the scrutiny must be unbearable. He has a lovely wife and family and could make much more money far more easily. The problem lies with those who put him on a pedestal, politicians always fall off and look silly.
she called him a scumbag headed for ruin from day one.0 -
Interestingly low turnout from a betting perspective - how does that 47% who are "10/10 certain to vote "compare with the equivalent percentage for the May 2015 GE?TheScreamingEagles said:ICM EURef poll. Online
Remain 45 (+4)
Leave 43 (nc)
ICM's new #EURef poll is first to be carried entirely out after Brussels attacks
REMAIN 2% ahead after turnout weighting
Just 47% in ICM poll say they are 10/10 certain to vote suggesting a lower level than general elections0 -
The people behind the demon eyes poster? (OK, it was only 19 years ago!)blackburn63 said:
The comparisons are there for all to see, with the obvious exception of the lovely wife. Who would have believed 20 years ago how Blair would be regarded now.OldKingCole said:
The "heir to Blair" again!blackburn63 said:Cameron is probably and understandably sick of the job, the scrutiny must be unbearable. He has a lovely wife and family and could make much more money far more easily. The problem lies with those who put him on a pedestal, politicians always fall off and look silly.
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01614/1997-demon-eyes_1614441i.jpg0 -
52-55%Wanderer said:
What do you make Trump's chance of winning the Presidency to be?Mortimer said:
Perhaps Clinton just won't encourage people to vote for her?JackW said:
People don't mind Trump's "weaknesses" so much that he has the biggest net negatives in modern POTUS history.Mortimer said:
People don't mind Trump's weaknesses - in fact some of them celebrate themZJackW said:
You think the Clinton and Democrat machine will be idle in return ....Mortimer said:
Clinton does not stand a chance when the Trump machine is turned against her.Alistair said:
I'm sure Clinton remembers 08 and the mass of media exposure the extended democratic primary brought, especially with the short Republican primary.JackW said:
Not at all.AndyJS said:
Clinton must be a bit disturbed by how close Sanders is to her in a lot of these polls.JackW said:National - IPSOS/Reuters
Trump 45 .. Cruz 28 .. Kasich 20
Clinton 50 .. Sanders 45
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/2016ReutersTrackingCorePolitical3.23.16.pdf
Sanders is way adrift in delegates and whilst he'll continue to pick up states, Clinton will win many more often by large margins.
Bernie is staying in the race to keep HRC's feet to the fire and for leverage at the convention. It's also useful for Clinton to have a contest so as to sharpen her act and retain significant free media coverage.
HCWNBPOTUS
It's a view.
Hilary has no 'negative cheerleaders' that I know of.
Perhaps you think Trump will find several million extra white working class males down the back of a sofa to get to the White House?
How do you account for GOP primary turnout JackW? Especially given Dem primary figures are flattered by Bernians.0 -
breaking: Lille railway station evacuated...0
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The Comres poll is another where the sample elected Ed Miliband as PM in 2015.
Tory numbers on Leave/Remain = 45:32 (58:42)0 -
I've written most of the George is crap threads.Alanbrooke said:
You're just running these Europe posts to distract people from George is crap.TheScreamingEagles said:ICM EURef poll. Online
Remain 45 (+4)
Leave 43 (nc)
ICM's new #EURef poll is first to be carried entirely out after Brussels attacks
REMAIN 2% ahead after turnout weighting
Just 47% in ICM poll say they are 10/10 certain to vote suggesting a lower level than general elections
Read through the threads of the last 2 weeks and you'll see nobody is interested in EUref.
I feel like Judas Iscariot, Guy Burgess and Mark Reckless all rolled into one.0 -
Cornets.MarqueeMark said:
Muted Trumpets?Mortimer said:
Shy Trumpers (Trumpeters?).Alistair said:
And Trump's huge negative numbers are just a fiction of the pollster's imagination?Mortimer said:
People don't mind Trump's weaknesses - in fact some of them celebrate themZJackW said:
You think the Clinton and Democrat machine will be idle in return ....Mortimer said:
Clinton does not stand a chance when the Trump machine is turned against her.Alistair said:
I'm sure Clinton remembers 08 and the mass of media exposure the extended democratic primary brought, especially with the short Republican primary.JackW said:
Not at all.AndyJS said:
Clinton must be a bit disturbed by how close Sanders is to her in a lot of these polls.JackW said:National - IPSOS/Reuters
Trump 45 .. Cruz 28 .. Kasich 20
Clinton 50 .. Sanders 45
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/2016ReutersTrackingCorePolitical3.23.16.pdf
Sanders is way adrift in delegates and whilst he'll continue to pick up states, Clinton will win many more often by large margins.
Bernie is staying in the race to keep HRC's feet to the fire and for leverage at the convention. It's also useful for Clinton to have a contest so as to sharpen her act and retain significant free media coverage.
HCWNBPOTUS
It's a view.
Hilary has no 'negative cheerleaders' that I know of.0 -
World cities - and there are really only three or four in the world: New York, London, Hong Kong, Singapore - all have very large proportions that are foreign. That is the nature of being a world city.Mortimer said:
39%?! Good grief that is incredible.NickPalmer said:
I think he's a busted flush with all communities, frankly. 44% of London voters come from ethnic minorities and 39% were born abroad. Galloway's last poll share rating was 1%.John_N said:What effect will the referendum result have on British emigration? Currently about 0.5% of the population skedaddle each year.
Who says? For many, immigration is the key issue. Leave have got Galloway to win votes from those who are pro-immigration. Contrary to what some have argued, Galloway is a big net gain for the Leave campaign, and he is respected by many of the 2.7 million Muslims in the country. He doesn't have so much respect among those who aren't Muslims, but few are going to vote Remain just because he's involved with Leave.Charles said:The infight?g and immigration heavy strategy that he [Farage] promotes is not helpful to leave.
I cannot stand this short termist pro-immigration society. What a drain we are on other nations, what a legacy we leave our own children.
Do we really believe that Hong Kong's success makes other countries poorer? And even if we did, surely it is better to let - as far as it is possible - individuals make their own decisions.0 -
Thanks.Mortimer said:
52-55%Wanderer said:
What do you make Trump's chance of winning the Presidency to be?Mortimer said:
Perhaps Clinton just won't encourage people to vote for her?JackW said:
People don't mind Trump's "weaknesses" so much that he has the biggest net negatives in modern POTUS history.Mortimer said:
People don't mind Trump's weaknesses - in fact some of them celebrate themZJackW said:
You think the Clinton and Democrat machine will be idle in return ....Mortimer said:
Clinton does not stand a chance when the Trump machine is turned against her.Alistair said:
I'm sure Clinton remembers 08 and the mass of media exposure the extended democratic primary brought, especially with the short Republican primary.JackW said:
Not at all.AndyJS said:
Clinton must be a bit disturbed by how close Sanders is to her in a lot of these polls.JackW said:National - IPSOS/Reuters
Trump 45 .. Cruz 28 .. Kasich 20
Clinton 50 .. Sanders 45
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/2016ReutersTrackingCorePolitical3.23.16.pdf
Sanders is way adrift in delegates and whilst he'll continue to pick up states, Clinton will win many more often by large margins.
Bernie is staying in the race to keep HRC's feet to the fire and for leverage at the convention. It's also useful for Clinton to have a contest so as to sharpen her act and retain significant free media coverage.
HCWNBPOTUS
It's a view.
Hilary has no 'negative cheerleaders' that I know of.
Perhaps you think Trump will find several million extra white working class males down the back of a sofa to get to the White House?
How do you account for GOP primary turnout JackW? Especially given Dem primary figures are flattered by Bernians.
My guesstimate is around 20%. I think he has a chance but I don't think the current Betfair odds are far off.
Would be interested to know what others think.-1 -
Extreme animal porn, as opposed to good old fashioned normal animal porn. How times change. I blame it on the internet.Moses_ said:Crikey
Adam Johnson was arrested last year on suspicion of possessing extreme animal porn, it has emerged
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/12202923/Adam-Johnson-to-be-sentenced-for-child-sex-offence.html0 -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bypLwI5AQvY
You condone a level of ignorance in your leader that most people with even a modicum of manners would find unacceptable so yes nothing his followers do surprises me.blackburn63 said:
I hope you feel better for suggesting that Ukip voters condone violence against females.Roger said:
If as Michael Crick suggests Ms Evans reports that Farage has beaten his wife that can surely only improve his support among UKIPersblackburn63 said:
I didn't hear the interview but yes, 1 or 2 around him were dreadful. The month or so leading up to the GE was pure chaos.tlg86 said:
I thought Evans handled the interview with Dale very well. It sounded like she thinks that Farage surrounded himself with some idiots (malicious or otherwise).blackburn63 said:Re Farage, I've spent a fair amount of time with him, he is very intelligent and always prepared to engage with people, he has dedicated 20 years to us leaving the EU so its understandable he is keen to be at the forefront of the campaign, I can't think of anybody with a better knowledge of how the EU works.
His resignation was poorly handled, a leadership contest would have been good for Ukip. I've no idea what's going on with Suzanne Evans who is a very impressive lady. Egos are everywhere in politics, Nigel is no exception.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bypLwI5AQvY
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This episode is not propitious for the Trump/Cruz ticket. As I understand it Mme Cruz is a key part of the operation.williamglenn said:Cruz: "Donald Trump, you're a snivelling coward."
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lSjIG_vy5M
(Apologies for the bombastic video edit. It seems to be the only version on YouTube at the moment.)0 -
I would be tempted to attend a pb get together if I thought you would be there.Roger said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bypLwI5AQvY
You condone a level of ignorance in your leader that most people people with even a modicum of manners would find unacceptable so yes nothing that ignoramus does surprises me.blackburn63 said:
I hope you feel better for suggesting that Ukip voters condone violence against females.Roger said:
If as Michael Crick suggests Ms Evans reports that Farage has beaten his wife that can surely only improve his support among UKIPersblackburn63 said:
I didn't hear the interview but yes, 1 or 2 around him were dreadful. The month or so leading up to the GE was pure chaos.tlg86 said:
I thought Evans handled the interview with Dale very well. It sounded like she thinks that Farage surrounded himself with some idiots (malicious or otherwise).blackburn63 said:Re Farage, I've spent a fair amount of time with him, he is very intelligent and always prepared to engage with people, he has dedicated 20 years to us leaving the EU so its understandable he is keen to be at the forefront of the campaign, I can't think of anybody with a better knowledge of how the EU works.
His resignation was poorly handled, a leadership contest would have been good for Ukip. I've no idea what's going on with Suzanne Evans who is a very impressive lady. Egos are everywhere in politics, Nigel is no exception.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bypLwI5AQvY0 -
First PB bromance, so sweet.blackburn63 said:
I would be tempted to attend a pb get together if I thought you would be there.Roger said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bypLwI5AQvY
You condone a level of ignorance in your leader that most people people with even a modicum of manners would find unacceptable so yes nothing that ignoramus does surprises me.blackburn63 said:
I hope you feel better for suggesting that Ukip voters condone violence against females.Roger said:
If as Michael Crick suggests Ms Evans reports that Farage has beaten his wife that can surely only improve his support among UKIPersblackburn63 said:
I didn't hear the interview but yes, 1 or 2 around him were dreadful. The month or so leading up to the GE was pure chaos.tlg86 said:
I thought Evans handled the interview with Dale very well. It sounded like she thinks that Farage surrounded himself with some idiots (malicious or otherwise).blackburn63 said:Re Farage, I've spent a fair amount of time with him, he is very intelligent and always prepared to engage with people, he has dedicated 20 years to us leaving the EU so its understandable he is keen to be at the forefront of the campaign, I can't think of anybody with a better knowledge of how the EU works.
His resignation was poorly handled, a leadership contest would have been good for Ukip. I've no idea what's going on with Suzanne Evans who is a very impressive lady. Egos are everywhere in politics, Nigel is no exception.0 -
His tweaking was spot on for the General Election. Some reputations to be upheld/ruined with POTUS/EURef this year...Roger said:
Thank goodness for Chestnut! If the polls need a little tweak he's your man!chestnut said:The Comres poll is another where the sample elected Ed Miliband as PM in 2015.
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Woah, oh oh oh oh, oh oh oh caught in a rad bromancesaddened said:
First PB bromance, so sweet.blackburn63 said:
I would be tempted to attend a pb get together if I thought you would be there.Roger said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bypLwI5AQvY
You condone a level of ignorance in your leader that most people people with even a modicum of manners would find unacceptable so yes nothing that ignoramus does surprises me.blackburn63 said:
I hope you feel better for suggesting that Ukip voters condone violence against females.Roger said:
If as Michael Crick suggests Ms Evans reports that Farage has beaten his wife that can surely only improve his support among UKIPersblackburn63 said:
I didn't hear the interview but yes, 1 or 2 around him were dreadful. The month or so leading up to the GE was pure chaos.tlg86 said:
I thought Evans handled the interview with Dale very well. It sounded like she thinks that Farage surrounded himself with some idiots (malicious or otherwise).blackburn63 said:Re Farage, I've spent a fair amount of time with him, he is very intelligent and always prepared to engage with people, he has dedicated 20 years to us leaving the EU so its understandable he is keen to be at the forefront of the campaign, I can't think of anybody with a better knowledge of how the EU works.
His resignation was poorly handled, a leadership contest would have been good for Ukip. I've no idea what's going on with Suzanne Evans who is a very impressive lady. Egos are everywhere in politics, Nigel is no exception.0 -
I guess there is an 80% chance of trump getting the nomination and a 25% chance of him winning I'd he does. So 20% seems right.Wanderer said:
Thanks.Mortimer said:
52-55%Wanderer said:
What do you make Trump's chance of winning the Presidency to be?Mortimer said:
Perhaps Clinton just won't encourage people to vote for her?JackW said:
People don't mind Trump's "weaknesses" so much that he has the biggest net negatives in modern POTUS history.Mortimer said:
People don't mind Trump's weaknesses - in fact some of them celebrate themZJackW said:
You think the Clinton and Democrat machine will be idle in return ....Mortimer said:
Clinton does not stand a chance when the Trump machine is turned against her.Alistair said:
I'm sure Clinton remembers 08 and the mass of media exposure the extended democratic primary brought, especially with the short Republican primary.JackW said:
Not at all.AndyJS said:
Clinton must be a bit disturbed by how close Sanders is to her in a lot of these polls.JackW said:National - IPSOS/Reuters
Trump 45 .. Cruz 28 .. Kasich 20
Clinton 50 .. Sanders 45
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/2016ReutersTrackingCorePolitical3.23.16.pdf
Sanders is way adrift in delegates and whilst he'll continue to pick up states, Clinton will win many more often by large margins.
Bernie is staying in the race to keep HRC's feet to the fire and for leverage at the convention. It's also useful for Clinton to have a contest so as to sharpen her act and retain significant free media coverage.
HCWNBPOTUS
It's a view.
Hilary has no 'negative cheerleaders' that I know of.
Perhaps you think Trump will find several million extra white working class males down the back of a sofa to get to the White House?
How do you account for GOP primary turnout JackW? Especially given Dem primary figures are flattered by Bernians.
My guesstimate is around 20%. I think he has a chance but I don't think the current Betfair odds are far off.
Would be interested to know what others think.
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Societies with lax immigration policies cause a brain drain for the areas that immigrants leave.rcs1000 said:
World cities - and there are really only three or four in the world: New York, London, Hong Kong, Singapore - all have very large proportions that are foreign. That is the nature of being a world city.Mortimer said:
39%?! Good grief that is incredible.NickPalmer said:
I think he's a busted flush with all communities, frankly. 44% of London voters come from ethnic minorities and 39% were born abroad. Galloway's last poll share rating was 1%.John_N said:What effect will the referendum result have on British emigration? Currently about 0.5% of the population skedaddle each year.
Who says? For many, immigration is the key issue. Leave have got Galloway to win votes from those who are pro-immigration. Contrary to what some have argued, Galloway is a big net gain for the Leave campaign, and he is respected by many of the 2.7 million Muslims in the country. He doesn't have so much respect among those who aren't Muslims, but few are going to vote Remain just because he's involved with Leave.Charles said:The infight?g and immigration heavy strategy that he [Farage] promotes is not helpful to leave.
I cannot stand this short termist pro-immigration society. What a drain we are on other nations, what a legacy we leave our own children.
Do we really believe that Hong Kong's success makes other countries poorer? And even if we did, surely it is better to let - as far as it is possible - individuals make their own decisions.
In the past people would stay and reform their own political economies.
Would that not be preferable for human development? I would happily sacrifice the 2% (or whatever) immediate growth dip it would cause.0 -
You might like me and then where would we be!blackburn63 said:
I would be tempted to attend a pb get together if I thought you would be there.Roger said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bypLwI5AQvY
You condone a level of ignorance in your leader that most people people with even a modicum of manners would find unacceptable so yes nothing that ignoramus does surprises me.blackburn63 said:
I hope you feel better for suggesting that Ukip voters condone violence against females.Roger said:
If as Michael Crick suggests Ms Evans reports that Farage has beaten his wife that can surely only improve his support among UKIPersblackburn63 said:
I didn't hear the interview but yes, 1 or 2 around him were dreadful. The month or so leading up to the GE was pure chaos.tlg86 said:
I thought Evans handled the interview with Dale very well. It sounded like she thinks that Farage surrounded himself with some idiots (malicious or otherwise).blackburn63 said:Re Farage, I've spent a fair amount of time with him, he is very intelligent and always prepared to engage with people, he has dedicated 20 years to us leaving the EU so its understandable he is keen to be at the forefront of the campaign, I can't think of anybody with a better knowledge of how the EU works.
His resignation was poorly handled, a leadership contest would have been good for Ukip. I've no idea what's going on with Suzanne Evans who is a very impressive lady. Egos are everywhere in politics, Nigel is no exception.
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Agree to both.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
Yes, he does deserve a holiday.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Absolutely agree he and his family deserve a holiday. He says he wants time to think and maybe he may take the view to becmore neutral over EuropeHertsmere_Pubgoer said:
A D notice would achieve the square root of sod all. His arrival was tweeted almost instantaneously.LadyBucket said:I'm still a fan of David Cameron, even though I so annoyed with him at the moment for getting into this mess. I said a few weeks ago he needs a holiday and now he gone on one,I see SKY are doing the usual lazy media stuff. I really feel the security services should put a 'D' notice on the PM's whereabouts when he goes away. He has his family with him and it is a resort with thousands of other holidaymakers. Of course, if anything happens while he is away, all hell will break lose, the media will go into overdrive.
I suggested a few days ago, he needs a Deputy PM. I do hope this is being considered. That was an interesting comment he made that "he needs time to think." He certainly does and I hope he comes to the conclusion that he needs to refresh his team, he's getting some very bad advice IMO.
The chances of him being anything less then 100% Remain are vanishingly close to zero.
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