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edited March 2016 in General

imagepoliticalbetting.com » Blog Archive » LAB close the gap by 5 points with ComRes online to just 9% behind

An encouraging finding for Cameron and one which could be crucial that CON voters are twice as likely to say they trust the PM more than the Mayor to do what is best for Britain (54% say they trust Cameron more v 27% who trust Johnson more).

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  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,226
    First. You'd think all this Turkey friendly policy was almost designed to get a LEAVE vote....
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,226
    And second, really quite staggering that a lead of 9 is described as 'just 9%'.

    This is the post Corbo polity.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,257
    edited March 2016
    LAB close the gap by 5 points with ComRes online to just 9% behind....

    It is regression to the mean isn't it, one where Labour are still sub 30%.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,711
    "Just" 9% behind

    JUST 9%

    JUST 9%

    JUST NINE PERCENT o_O
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,257
    I see Osborne ain't too popular and people saying they feel worse off, but then when given the option to stick or twist...they clearly backing stick with the poshos.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,703
    Wasn't Miliband about 10 points (or more) ahead at this stage?

    Mr. Mortimer, nein, mein Freund. It's merely continuing the current EU approach of juvenile emotion-led policy coupled with complete incompetence.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Trump: "Hillary doesn't seem able to win, even against a Communist..."
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,854
    Imagine how well Ukip would be polling if they had a credible leader....
  • justin124justin124 Posts: 11,527
    edited March 2016
    The Comres online poll has since May 2015 been consistently the worst for Labour - and best for the Tories. It will be interesting to see what other pollsters come up with. ICM a few days back had the Tory lead at just 4%.
    I have just checked - and this is the smallest Tory lead from Comres online since the election -.11% was previously the bottom of a range of 11 -15%.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,703
    Mr. 86, they'd be into the 20s. But then, if Labour had a credible leader they'd be nudging the 40s.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,938
    Labours "just" 9% behind? Really? "Just" 9%? LOL!
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    FPT
    I see that Matt has reported me for something or other. I hope I'm not going to be banned again, and this time for nothing.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,703
    Mr. K, seems entirely legitimate to be critical and suspicious of the likes of Erdogan, and to have contempt for the EU's handling of the migrant crisis.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,938
    edited March 2016
    In March 2011 Labour generally had around between 5% and 10% leads (and I remember saying even then that Labour/Ed Miliband wasn't really doing well enough given the circumstances)

    http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/voting-intention-2

    Corbyn is doing very substantially and significantly worse than Ed Miliband.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,938
    edited March 2016
    dp

  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    tlg86 said:

    Imagine how well Ukip would be polling if they had a credible leader....

    Agree to some extent. As I wrote a day or two ago, I'm letting my UKIP membership lapse in May, not so much because of the leader but because the party is still a shambles with no professional organisation.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,577
    Disaster!
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,976
    edited March 2016
    I'm generally among the most optimistic about Labour's chances generally, I was the one predicting a Labour majority up to February 2015, and have not ruled out them doing ok under Corbyn (if the Tories implode), but I have to agree with GIN1138 and others on this one - just 9%?

    The environment does not seem good for Osborne though.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,938
    edited March 2016
    MikeK said:

    tlg86 said:

    Imagine how well Ukip would be polling if they had a credible leader....

    Agree to some extent. As I wrote a day or two ago, I'm letting my UKIP membership lapse in May, not so much because of the leader but because the party is still a shambles with no professional organisation.
    I remain convinced that Farage is a complete fake, wedded to the EU gravy train and intent on making sure we REMAIN in the EU.

    Anyway, whatever happens with the referendum, UKIP is out of business on 24th June surely?
  • ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    I bet they didn't expect that result for Boris on good for Britain v good for his career.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,976
    ThreeQuidder said:

    I bet they didn't expect that result for Boris on good for Britain v good for his career.

    I certainly didn't. I assume some people believe he thinks it is both.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,854
    Morris_Dancer said:

    Mr. 86, they'd be into the 20s. But then, if Labour had a credible leader they'd be nudging the 40s.

    I'm not so sure. I wouldn't say that Farage has covered himself in glory since the election, but the way some people talk about Ukip on here you'd think they should be back in single figures. That they're not suggests that there is a chunk of the electorate who will vote Ukip come what may.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,938
    edited March 2016
    kle4 said:

    I'm generally among the most optimistic about Labour's chances generally, I was the one predicting a Labour majority up to February 2015, and have not ruled out them doing ok under Corbyn (if the Tories implode), but I have to agree with GIN1138 and others on this one - just 9%?

    The environment does not seem good for Osborne though.

    It's the same old story. Corbyn/Labour has until early 2018 to build their greatest lead over the Tories, after which opinion will gradually move back to the government up to the election (whether the pollsters notice that swingback is another matter but given how useless opinion polls in this country generally are, they probably won't) so realistically, Corbyn/Labour has little more than two years to win the general election and they probably need to gain around 20-25% from where they are now by 2018...
  • justin124justin124 Posts: 11,527
    GIN1138 said:

    In March 2011 Labour generally had around between 5% and 10% leads (and I remember saying even then that Labour/Ed Miliband wasn't really doing well enough given the circumstances)

    http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/voting-intention-2

    Corbyn is doing very substantially and significantly worse than Ed Miliband.

    That is true. In March 2011 we were getting far more polls and the results ranged from a Labour lead of 11% to a few ties and a Tory lead of 1% from ICM
    At the same point in the 2001 Parliament - April 2002 - Labour enjoyed leads ranging from 12 to 23%.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited March 2016
    Next stop on the Trump Express: Kansas City, MO.
    More protests expected, from such as these...

    'PYO’s page shows a strong pro-Soviet, anti-police bent. In one picture posted on its page, a member of the group is seen holding an anti-cop sign that reads “Today’s Pig, Tomorrow’s Bacon.”'

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/12/kansas-city-mayor-warns-against-violence-at-trump-rally/#ixzz42ijdN2pa
  • TudorRoseTudorRose Posts: 1,683
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    I see Osborne ain't too popular and people saying they feel worse off, but then when given the option to stick or twist...they clearly backing stick with the poshos.

    No - the question is 'no better off', which is not the same as worse off. Unless, of course, you think that it is the Government's job to make you better off rather than doing it yourself!
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,938
    edited March 2016
    dp again sorry

  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,703
    Anyway, my eyes are going a bit fuzzy, so I'm off.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,998
    GIN1138 said:

    MikeK said:

    tlg86 said:

    Imagine how well Ukip would be polling if they had a credible leader....

    Agree to some extent. As I wrote a day or two ago, I'm letting my UKIP membership lapse in May, not so much because of the leader but because the party is still a shambles with no professional organisation.
    I remain convinced that Farage is a complete fake, wedded to the EU gravy train and intent on making sure we REMAIN in the EU.

    Anyway, whatever happens with the referendum, UKIP is out of business on 24th June surely?
    A loss secures UKIP's future. A win puts the party out of business.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,938
    edited March 2016
    Sean_F said:

    GIN1138 said:

    MikeK said:

    tlg86 said:

    Imagine how well Ukip would be polling if they had a credible leader....

    Agree to some extent. As I wrote a day or two ago, I'm letting my UKIP membership lapse in May, not so much because of the leader but because the party is still a shambles with no professional organisation.
    I remain convinced that Farage is a complete fake, wedded to the EU gravy train and intent on making sure we REMAIN in the EU.

    Anyway, whatever happens with the referendum, UKIP is out of business on 24th June surely?
    A loss secures UKIP's future. A win puts the party out of business.
    But after a loss we won't have another referendum for 40-50 years (if ever)?
  • mattmatt Posts: 3,789
    MikeK said:

    FPT
    I see that Matt has reported me for something or other. I hope I'm not going to be banned again, and this time for nothing.

    No I haven't. Why should I report somebody whose posting is an excellent example of the principle of res ipsa loquitor?
  • justin124justin124 Posts: 11,527
    GIN1138 said:

    Sean_F said:

    GIN1138 said:

    MikeK said:

    tlg86 said:

    Imagine how well Ukip would be polling if they had a credible leader....

    Agree to some extent. As I wrote a day or two ago, I'm letting my UKIP membership lapse in May, not so much because of the leader but because the party is still a shambles with no professional organisation.
    I remain convinced that Farage is a complete fake, wedded to the EU gravy train and intent on making sure we REMAIN in the EU.

    Anyway, whatever happens with the referendum, UKIP is out of business on 24th June surely?
    A loss secures UKIP's future. A win puts the party out of business.
    But after a loss we won't have another referendum for 40-50 years (if ever)?
    That does not follow if a few years down the line UKIP and other Eurosceptics can persuade people that they were conned by Cameron and Remain.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,307
    "Just 9%"?

    Corbyn still in the honeymoon period then....
  • FishingFishing Posts: 5,679
    edited March 2016
    Why are people still drooling over polls - and especially the Con/Lab differential - given last May?

    Or did people on here not notice that the polls weren't entirely accurate?
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    matt said:

    MikeK said:

    FPT
    I see that Matt has reported me for something or other. I hope I'm not going to be banned again, and this time for nothing.

    No I haven't. Why should I report somebody whose posting is an excellent example of the principle of res ipsa loquitor?
    One thing about PB is that I keep up with my latin.
  • William_HWilliam_H Posts: 346
    Closest they've been with ComRes Online since the election?
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,998
    GIN1138 said:

    Sean_F said:

    GIN1138 said:

    MikeK said:

    tlg86 said:

    Imagine how well Ukip would be polling if they had a credible leader....

    Agree to some extent. As I wrote a day or two ago, I'm letting my UKIP membership lapse in May, not so much because of the leader but because the party is still a shambles with no professional organisation.
    I remain convinced that Farage is a complete fake, wedded to the EU gravy train and intent on making sure we REMAIN in the EU.

    Anyway, whatever happens with the referendum, UKIP is out of business on 24th June surely?
    A loss secures UKIP's future. A win puts the party out of business.
    But after a loss we won't have another referendum for 40-50 years (if ever)?
    That depends on the margin, and crucially, on subsequent events. I'd expect the PM's deal to unravel very rapidly, in the event of a Remain vote.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    more false tweets that Trump has cancelled his rally...
  • volcanopetevolcanopete Posts: 2,078
    matt said:

    MikeK said:

    FPT
    I see that Matt has reported me for something or other. I hope I'm not going to be banned again, and this time for nothing.

    No I haven't. Why should I report somebody whose posting is an excellent example of the principle of res ipsa loquitor?
    Aquila non copit murem.
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    REUTERS ROLLING:

    TRUMP 45.4%
    Cruz 23.4%
    Rubio 12.5%
    Kasich 12.2%

    http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TR130/filters/PARTY_ID_:2/dates/20160307-20160311/type/day …
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,711
    edited March 2016
    Looking like a Cruz blowout win in Wyoming.

    Of course he's going to come unstuck in Illinois, New York, Maryland, New Jersey, Delaware, etc etc against Trump for all his strength in the midwest.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,711
    MikeK said:

    REUTERS ROLLING:

    TRUMP 45.4%
    Cruz 23.4%
    Rubio 12.5%
    Kasich 12.2%

    http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TR130/filters/PARTY_ID_:2/dates/20160307-20160311/type/day …

    Trump at just under 50% excluding Don't knows.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited March 2016
    Pulpstar said:

    Looking like a Cruz blowout win in Wyoming.

    Haven't figured out quite what they're doing in WY. Half the delegates decided tonight, half on April 16th?
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    Pulpstar said:

    Looking like a Cruz blowout win in Wyoming.

    Of course he's going to come unstuck in Illinois, New York, Maryland, New Jersey, Delaware, etc etc against Trump for all his strength in the midwest.

    Well in a Republican Caucus of less that 4000 voters I guess Cruz will try and make out it was 400K voting.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,946
    Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago
    We are asking law enforcement to check for dishonest early voting in Florida- on behalf of little Marco Rubio.
    No way to run a country!
    3,564 retweets 9,125 likes
    Reply Retweet 3.6K
    Like 9.1K
    More
    Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago
    Word is-early voting in FL is very dishonest. Little Marco, his State Chairman, & their minions are working overtime-trying to rig the vote.
  • EPGEPG Posts: 6,737
    MikeK said:

    REUTERS ROLLING:

    TRUMP 45.4%
    Cruz 23.4%
    Rubio 12.5%
    Kasich 12.2%

    http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TR130/filters/PARTY_ID_:2/dates/20160307-20160311/type/day …

    Reuters rolling, Rubio rising?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,813
    "To just 9% behind"

    JUST 9% behind?

    JUST?

    :lol::lol::lol:
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    edited March 2016
    Fishing said:

    Why are people still drooling over polls - and especially the Con/Lab differential - given last May?

    Or did people on here not notice that the polls weren't entirely accurate?

    It is possible the polls were more accurate as a guide to public opinion than to election results, due to a number of special circumstances, not least of which were the polls themselves which, by showing the parties closely matched, made it seem too risky for anti-Labour supporters of UKIP and LibDems not to vote Conservative.

    Whether it matters is a moot point.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,711
    MikeK said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Looking like a Cruz blowout win in Wyoming.

    Of course he's going to come unstuck in Illinois, New York, Maryland, New Jersey, Delaware, etc etc against Trump for all his strength in the midwest.

    Well in a Republican Caucus of less that 4000 voters I guess Cruz will try and make out it was 400K voting.
    Cruz is very good at getting his support out to the small events with tricky rules. If ever there was a Cruz state, it was Wyoming - weird how the deep south has turned out to be solidly Trump and the midwest much much better for Cruz.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,030
    bigjohnowls said:

    Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago
    We are asking law enforcement to check for dishonest early voting in Florida- on behalf of little Marco Rubio.
    No way to run a country!

    Louise Mensch is frantically tweeting support for Marco Rubio and claiming that this is evidence that Trump is scared.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,711
    williamglenn said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago
    We are asking law enforcement to check for dishonest early voting in Florida- on behalf of little Marco Rubio.
    No way to run a country!

    Louise Mensch is frantically tweeting support for Marco Rubio and claiming that this is evidence that Trump is scared.
    She is nuts, Nate Silver seems to have completely lost any sense of impartiality about Trump too.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @carlgardner: 44% want us out, 53% want their own referendum, and lots more very interesting French & EU poll findings here. https://t.co/QLYF0xXH8I
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,711
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw_Zp6JeMyzIMl9Qd01vMmk4MDg/view?pref=2&pli=1

    Here the Wyoming rules are explained, great picture on the wall.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Which one is Malc?

    https://twitter.com/agentp22/status/708710477329768448
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    RodCrosby said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Looking like a Cruz blowout win in Wyoming.

    Haven't figured out quite what they're doing in WY. Half the delegates decided tonight, half on April 16th?
    By this point I am assuming most delegate tallies are produced by quantum entanglement.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,711
    https://www.facebook.com/WYGOP/

    Sheridan County : Cruz 45 - Rubio 30. Cruz Delegate.
    Sweetwater: Cruz 45 - Rubio 28 - Trump 16. Cruz delegate
    Teton: Trump 21 Rubio 19. Trump delegate.
    Albany: Rubio 39 Cruz 37. Rubio delegate.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Pulpstar said:

    williamglenn said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago
    We are asking law enforcement to check for dishonest early voting in Florida- on behalf of little Marco Rubio.
    No way to run a country!

    Louise Mensch is frantically tweeting support for Marco Rubio and claiming that this is evidence that Trump is scared.
    She is nuts, Nate Silver seems to have completely lost any sense of impartiality about Trump too.
    http://opinion.injo.com/2016/03/254162-trump-accused-florida-gop-rigging-early-vote-rubio-party-responds/
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,711
    Kasich still on zero votes in Wyoming...
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,257
    Scott_P said:

    Which one is Malc?

    https://twitter.com/agentp22/status/708710477329768448

    Can we have a translation of what is on the t-shirt...
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    Pulpstar said:

    williamglenn said:

    bigjohnowls said:

    Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago
    We are asking law enforcement to check for dishonest early voting in Florida- on behalf of little Marco Rubio.
    No way to run a country!

    Louise Mensch is frantically tweeting support for Marco Rubio and claiming that this is evidence that Trump is scared.
    She is nuts, Nate Silver seems to have completely lost any sense of impartiality about Trump too.
    Can you really be impartial about Trump ?
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Can we have a translation of what is on the t-shirt...

    It's a really, really bad pun.

    Humza Yousaf is the bloke in the middle
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Scott_P said:

    Which one is Malc?

    https://twitter.com/agentp22/status/708710477329768448

    Can we have a translation of what is on the t-shirt...
    It translates as "turnips are us"
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @gsoh31: Method changes, but #Labour now 13.3% behind same pt under EdM in last Parl. That 6.65% swing at next GE wd = Con maj 220, Lab c125 seats.
  • MyBurningEarsMyBurningEars Posts: 3,651
    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    "To just 9% behind"

    JUST 9% behind?

    JUST?

    :lol::lol::lol:

    I wondered whether the "just" was intended as a joke.

    Sadly the "29%" was not trailed as "meritorious", "massive" or "momentous", so perhaps tongue was not in cheek.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    foxinsoxuk said:

    It translates as "turnips are us"

    You will rue the day...
  • EPGEPG Posts: 6,737
    Amusing and embarrassing for former Sen. Clinton
    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/272790-sanders-spokesperson-fires-back-at-clinton-for-healthcare

    She is not very good at this campaigning!
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Alistair said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Looking like a Cruz blowout win in Wyoming.

    Haven't figured out quite what they're doing in WY. Half the delegates decided tonight, half on April 16th?
    By this point I am assuming most delegate tallies are produced by quantum entanglement.
    WY is one of the weirder ones.

    It's like they elect delegates...to elect delegates...to elect delegates...
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,711
    RodCrosby said:

    Alistair said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Looking like a Cruz blowout win in Wyoming.

    Haven't figured out quite what they're doing in WY. Half the delegates decided tonight, half on April 16th?
    By this point I am assuming most delegate tallies are produced by quantum entanglement.
    WY is one of the weirder ones.

    It's like they elect delegates...to elect delegates...to elect delegates...
    29 delegates though !

    Massive amount for the size of the state. Not quite the same power per voter of the US Virgin Isles, or the ultimate in voter power - American Samoa mind. But not far off.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,578
    MyBurningEars said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    "To just 9% behind"

    JUST 9% behind?

    JUST?

    :lol::lol::lol:

    I wondered whether the "just" was intended as a joke.

    Sadly the "29%" was not trailed as "meritorious", "massive" or "momentous", so perhaps tongue was not in cheek.
    Yeah. Mike has a sense of humour.

    If I had written this thread it would be headlined

    'Great news for Labour and Corbyn as they reduce the Tory lead to single digits. On current trends Labour should be ahead by May'
  • stodgestodge Posts: 14,817
    Evening all :)

    After an earlier poll today got some people excited, a poll tonight to get a few more excited it would seem though most of the movement seems to be within margin of error so in truth not much to get excited about.

    If there is to be any lasting damage to the Conservatives from the EU Referendum then we will see it 12 months down the road. At the moment, their position is however very healthy and everyone else's (in truth) pretty poor.

    To matters across the sea, it is, as others say, hard to see how Trump won't get the GOP nomination. I had thought a Rubio win in FL and a Kasich win in OH might slow down the Donald but it seems not to be so what to do if you are an anti-Trump Republican ?

    IF he loses in November, yes, HRC will be President but the GOP control of the Senate and House should remain through her term which will prevent her doing too much and by 2020 Trump will be a memory and a centrist GOP candidate should have a huge chance.

    IF Trump wins, the 2018 midterms might be very unpleasant for the GOP with potentially loss of the Senate and perhaps even of the House which will slow down the Donald and leave him open to a primary challenge such as Ford faced in 1979-80 even if the Donald decides he wants a second term.

    Sometimes in politics it's about biding your time and waiting for the opportunity rather than choosing someone you dislike even though he or she wears your party rosette.

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,711
    @Stodge Backed anything for Cheltenham yet ?
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    If anyone is betting on Corbyn exit dates

    @JohnRentoul: Missed this snippet from @PCollinsTimes yesterday £ https://t.co/h9zA4TIWeb https://t.co/IVUB6iv9TY
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Pulpstar said:

    @Stodge Backed anything for Cheltenham yet ?

    Will either of you be there?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,711
    Scott_P said:

    Pulpstar said:

    @Stodge Backed anything for Cheltenham yet ?

    Will either of you be there?
    I'll be there wednesday with my parents in Best Mate. Have had £50 each way on a certain 9-2 shot in the Queen Mother...
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,257
    edited March 2016
    BBC Radio 1 invites paedophile rapper onto Annie Mac

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/bbc-radio-1-invites-paedophile-7545656

    Not only a paedo, but a truly nasty piece of work....

    He was also jailed for three years in 2011 for his part in the kidnap and torture of a disabled man in a ­ransom plot. He admitted false imprisonment and blackmail. Victim Ricky Dellaway was pistol-whipped, bundled into a car and held at a flat in Streatham, south London by a gang. They demanded £25,000 for his release but police went to the rescue.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Pulpstar said:

    I'll be there wednesday with my parents in Best Mate. Have had £50 each way on a certain 9-2 shot in the Queen Mother...

    I'll wave from the other side of the track
  • TomsToms Posts: 2,478
    edited March 2016
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    MyBurningEars said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    "To just 9% behind"

    JUST 9% behind?

    JUST?

    :lol::lol::lol:

    I wondered whether the "just" was intended as a joke.

    Sadly the "29%" was not trailed as "meritorious", "massive" or "momentous", so perhaps tongue was not in cheek.
    Yeah. Mike has a sense of humour.

    If I had written this thread it would be headlined

    'Great news for Labour and Corbyn as they reduce the Tory lead to single digits. On current trends Labour should be ahead by May'
    Or look at it this way (favourable to pollsters): Labour rounds up, and the Tories round down, to ..... 30 percent.
  • runnymederunnymede Posts: 2,536
    If the 'Cameron can't be trusted theme' gains traction, Remain are in serious trouble, especially with the poll results above showing him neck and neck with Johnson...

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12192207/john-longworth-david-cameron-sinister-downing-street-eu-referendum-brexit.html
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,578
    Toms said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    MyBurningEars said:

    Sunil_Prasannan said:

    "To just 9% behind"

    JUST 9% behind?

    JUST?

    :lol::lol::lol:

    I wondered whether the "just" was intended as a joke.

    Sadly the "29%" was not trailed as "meritorious", "massive" or "momentous", so perhaps tongue was not in cheek.
    Yeah. Mike has a sense of humour.

    If I had written this thread it would be headlined

    'Great news for Labour and Corbyn as they reduce the Tory lead to single digits. On current trends Labour should be ahead by May'
    Or look at it this way (favourable to pollsters): Labour rounds up, and the Tories round down, to ..... 30 percent.
    Prior to the general election, I tweeted a Scottish Westminster VI poll, which like the previous few polls had the SNP with a lead of around 30%. I said "SNP continue to flatline in the polls with only a 30% lead"

    The abuse I got from the Nats....
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Scott_P said:

    Which one is Malc?

    https://twitter.com/agentp22/status/708710477329768448

    Can we have a translation of what is on the t-shirt...
    'I'm with Stupid'
  • stodgestodge Posts: 14,817
    Pulpstar said:

    @Stodge Backed anything for Cheltenham yet ?

    Won't be at Cheltenham unfortunately this year but with the weather set fair it should be a fantastic four days.

    Therein lies the problem...most of the racing this winter has been on ground on the heavy side of bottomless - hoe much will Prestbury Park dry out before Tuesday ? I could easily see the ground being nearer Good by Friday and that means most of the form can be thrown out the window along with the form book.

    I've had a few squid on VANITEUX against DOUVAN on Tuesday and I know I'm probably completely Upminster - well beyond Barking - but I just think DOUVAN's jumping hasn't really
    been tested yet and as they say there are fools, damn fools and those who bet odds-on in novice chases.
  • justin124justin124 Posts: 11,527
    edited March 2016
    Scott_P said:

    @gsoh31: Method changes, but #Labour now 13.3% behind same pt under EdM in last Parl. That 6.65% swing at next GE wd = Con maj 220, Lab c125 seats.

    But doing a good deal better than the Tories were at the same stage of the 2001 Parliament when they lagged Labour by 12 to 23%. Despite that , when it came to May 2005 they lost by a mere 3%. What would be the result in 2020 if Labour enjoys an improvement of the same magnitude as the Tories between 2002 and 2005?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,578
    https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/708766726318641152
  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584

    Never seen the PM this desperate.

    https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/708766726318641152/photo/1

  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @suttonnick: Mail on Sunday front page -
    PM: 'Gove is nuts, Boris is after my job'
    #tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers #euref https://t.co/LztVxomyvq
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,578
    MarkHopkins said:


    Never seen the PM this desperate.

    https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/708766726318641152/photo/1

    The Minister in question is David Laws, a Lib Dem.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 65,937
    MarkHopkins said:


    Never seen the PM this desperate.

    https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/708766726318641152/photo/1

    What written by David Laws - some will believe anything
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,578
    The most interesting bit from the Mail on Sunday story is the Gove on the brink bit.

    A real shame such a promising Cabinet career could come to an end for breaking Privy Council rules.
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693
    Just laid Trump in Florida for ~£2k at 1.15
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Oops, looks like Scott_P is worryingly off message

    https://twitter.com/RuthDavidsonMSP/status/708745634514337792?s=09
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,854
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The most interesting bit from the Mail on Sunday story is the Gove on the brink bit.

    A real shame such a promising Cabinet career could come to an end for breaking Privy Council rules.

    That would mean the conversation did happen and those are the views of the Queen.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Alistair said:

    Oops, looks like Scott_P is worryingly off message

    Umm, no.

    Read the speech, Indyref2 is not part of the "new campaign"
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,578
    tlg86 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The most interesting bit from the Mail on Sunday story is the Gove on the brink bit.

    A real shame such a promising Cabinet career could come to an end for breaking Privy Council rules.

    That would mean the conversation did happen and those are the views of the Queen.
    Not quite, the conversation was in 2011 and about the Eurozone.

    At no point did the Queen say she was a Brexiter.

    As the other spin this week is, she favours Remain as Brexit might herald the break up of her country.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,854
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    tlg86 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The most interesting bit from the Mail on Sunday story is the Gove on the brink bit.

    A real shame such a promising Cabinet career could come to an end for breaking Privy Council rules.

    That would mean the conversation did happen and those are the views of the Queen.
    Not quite, the conversation was in 2011 and about the Eurozone.

    At no point did the Queen say she was a Brexiter.

    As the other spin this week is, she favours Remain as Brexit might herald the break up of her country.
    I'd suggest that sacking Gove would be a courageous decision.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Scott_P said:

    Alistair said:

    Oops, looks like Scott_P is worryingly off message

    Umm, no.

    Read the speech, Indyref2 is not part of the "new campaign"
    So why is Dear Lead Ruth organising a petition against a second Indy ref?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 54,813
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    tlg86 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The most interesting bit from the Mail on Sunday story is the Gove on the brink bit.

    A real shame such a promising Cabinet career could come to an end for breaking Privy Council rules.

    That would mean the conversation did happen and those are the views of the Queen.
    Not quite, the conversation was in 2011 and about the Eurozone.

    At no point did the Queen say she was a Brexiter.

    As the other spin this week is, she favours Remain as Brexit might herald the break up of her country.
    Surely Her Majesty would prefer to be Head of State of an independent UK, not just a mere province of Brussels? After all, she is "Sovereign"!
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 122,578
    tlg86 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    tlg86 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The most interesting bit from the Mail on Sunday story is the Gove on the brink bit.

    A real shame such a promising Cabinet career could come to an end for breaking Privy Council rules.

    That would mean the conversation did happen and those are the views of the Queen.
    Not quite, the conversation was in 2011 and about the Eurozone.

    At no point did the Queen say she was a Brexiter.

    As the other spin this week is, she favours Remain as Brexit might herald the break up of her country.
    I'd suggest that sacking Gove would be a courageous decision.
    He'd resign. He's a very principled man, who if the allegations are true, made a rare lapse in judgement.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited March 2016
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/708766726318641152

    David Laws is not exactly the most trustworthy source and he still manages to state the obvious.

    On other news, with the Wyoming caucus going to Cruz and the Northern Marianas going to Trump, the world keeps it's breath for the results of the D.C caucus which will go to Rubio.
    Or not.

    Goodnight.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,854
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    tlg86 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    tlg86 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The most interesting bit from the Mail on Sunday story is the Gove on the brink bit.

    A real shame such a promising Cabinet career could come to an end for breaking Privy Council rules.

    That would mean the conversation did happen and those are the views of the Queen.
    Not quite, the conversation was in 2011 and about the Eurozone.

    At no point did the Queen say she was a Brexiter.

    As the other spin this week is, she favours Remain as Brexit might herald the break up of her country.
    I'd suggest that sacking Gove would be a courageous decision.
    He'd resign. He's a very principled man, who if the allegations are true, made a rare lapse in judgement.
    So if he doesn't resign that means we can assume that he is innocent?
  • alex.alex. Posts: 4,658
    edited March 2016
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    tlg86 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    The most interesting bit from the Mail on Sunday story is the Gove on the brink bit.

    A real shame such a promising Cabinet career could come to an end for breaking Privy Council rules.

    That would mean the conversation did happen and those are the views of the Queen.
    Not quite, the conversation was in 2011 and about the Eurozone.

    At no point did the Queen say she was a Brexiter.

    As the other spin this week is, she favours Remain as Brexit might herald the break up of her country.
    Also allegedly the conversation said she is a Eurosceptic, not a Brexiter. As was pointed out Brexit wasn't remotely on the table at the time of the conversation. Though the Outers are happily pushing the line that anyone intending to vote Remain is a EUphile, the truth is that many people voting for Remain are indeed Eurosceptics who reluctantly support being in EU on the grounds that it has advantages that outweigh the negatives that they dislike about the whole thing.
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