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Last night I Tweeted the above panel from new YouGov polling. It shows how the new leader is struggling to retain the backing of those who voted for the party in the general election and the gender breakdown
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Women who campaign for Britain to leave the European Union are like the Suffragettes because they are "fighting for our democratic freedom", a female Cabinet minister will say today.
Priti Patel, the employment minister, will say on Tuesday that Emmeline Pankhurst and the other Suffragettes did not fight for the right to vote to see "those decisions surrendered to the EU's undemocratic institutions and political elite".
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12186842/Women-who-campaign-for-a-Brexit-are-like-Suffragettes-Priti-Patel-says.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35749084
How dare a publicly elected REMAIN LEAVE official use his office to stop his staff speaking out on behalf of LEAVE REMAIN...?
I expect we'll never hear the end of it from the LEAVErs REMAINians
http://www.donaldjtrump.com/media/corrupt-marco-tv-spot
When you go to the comment box you are instructed to LEAVE a comment. Why not say enter a comment that will REMAIN?
This proves PB is an agent for leave.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKQWXEv7Oio
Separated by 5000 miles but not much else
Republican elite now turning to Tim Cook and Larry Page to stop Trump.
Not much evidence of Tories for Corbyn or Kippers for Corbyn either.
Hypocrisy would be is Boris forced all Remain members to not speak out for months on end, threatened their careers or denied them official documents. None of that has happened.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/mar/06/boris-johnson-scandalous-suspending-bcc-chief-eu-referendum-remarks
Could the officials then publicaly support Remain?
Not that the court politics of the Tories bother me. The sooner they break up into warring gangs the sooner the whole government collapses. It is a pity though that Corbyn couldn't organise a bunfight in a bakery and so will not take advantage. There really needs to be a summer Labour leadership contest.
I look forward to reading a thread for their case that is aspirational, not fearful.
"Johnson said: “It is absolutely scandalous that John Longworth has been forced to step aside.
“This is a man who reached the conclusion – after long reflection and a lifetime’s experience of business – that it would be better to vote Leave.
“His verdict reflects the reality – that the EU has changed out of all recognition from the Common Market that this country joined.
“He speaks for the many small- and medium-sized businesses – the lifeblood of the economy – who cannot understand why they should comply with more and more regulation, over which this country has no democratic control."
Mr Johnson was "relaxed" about members of his team campaigning on either side in a personal capacity, the spokesman added.
Considering he's supposed to be clever, he set himself a rather big trap with his earlier reported comments. Whether fair or not, this story does not look good.
As for Boris himself: it's easy to make the mistake of assuming that because someone is eloquent, or can write well, that what they say or write is worth listening to. Although I agree with him on some issues, and his writing style can be persuasive, I sometimes see a paucity of knowledge behind his words.
Is Boris just an empty shell beyond presentation?
Although I would say that, as I can neither speak eloquently or write well. I'll leave it to others to decide whether what I write is worth reading.
Cameron is allowing LEAVErs to campaign OPENLY - a privilege Boris is denying his staff.....
And speaking out in a private capacity wasn't even allowed for a year or so.
Is there any point in quoting large swathes of some obscure persons opinion on this blog? Couldn't he come on himself if he has something to say?
I find the idea that this is likely to move a measurable number of votes somewhat unlikely.
LOL
I've come to conclusion some people on here are just playing dumb is pretending this is equivalent, because I refuse to believe anyone capable of using a computer can be this stupid
Imagine the howls of outrage!
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We have a government which is suddenly perceived as split as the Labour party thanks to the EU. We have cabinet ministers being rude about each other and the PM on a daily basis in the media. We have an economy that has slowed putting immense pressure on the public spending targets which were already ambitious. And yet we see no sign of a Labour recovery. No sign at all. The risk for Labour must surely be that if the Tories can patch things up again after June (and it is a bit of an if) they will be out of sight.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35749837
Some parts seem reasonable, others less so IMO.
We still need action against the people smugglers: my suggestion is for the UN to create a special court to try the smugglers, and try to get not just the people on the ground, but the people higher up in the organisations as well.
People smuggling is an evil crime that exploits peoples' hardship.
I like the use of ambitious on the public spending targets - I presume you're not using in the politician's sense, meaning unachievable but pretending it is,
Behind the rhetoric, is there any evidence for this?
The EU is the political manifestation of Europe. There is no alternative. People might not like what the EU looks like but that is a different point. The great majority of Europe's countries are eitherin the EU or want to be. This is, across the continent, not simply a practical policy of trade but an assertion of shared values.
On democracy, certainly it could be more democratic but objectively, is it any less democratic than, say, the UK government? The EP is involved in most legislation and EU member governments form a second tier. What exactly is it that O'Neill wants?
The Remainers on here are pro freedom of movement as am I, I'm surprised they support an organisation that is so blatantly xenophobic.
The EU is the political manifestation of Europe. There is no alternative. People might not like what the EU looks like but that is a different point. The great majority of Europe's countries are eitherin the EU or want to be. This is, across the continent, not simply a practical policy of trade but an assertion of shared values.
On democracy, certainly it could be more democratic but objectively, is it any less democratic than, say, the UK government? The EP is involved in most legislation and EU member governments form a second tier. What exactly is it that O'Neill wants?
Of course there's an alternative, there is always an alternative.
Still, I approve a commentt made the other day that each day spent whining about unfairness is a day less to convince people, so maybe flagging g up the Boris contradiction is a good thing as remain are whining?
It is odd just how little is heard from Labour over the referendum. Has the Shadow Cabinet been locked in a basement?
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/12186881/Jeremy-Corbyn-faces-down-critics-as-he-demands-Labour-MPs-end-public-sniping-and-anonymous-briefings.html
Which will be nice.
If we were in that situation, we'd be pleading the international community for help as well. And we're a much richer economy.
But we need to be doing more to tackle the people and organisations behind the people smuggling. Even if they lead to significant personages in surrounding countries.
http://www.conservativehome.com/thecolumnists/2014/03/the-romans-ruled-an-age-ago-but-they-are-very-much-alive-in-modern-culture.html
I'm interested to hear what those espousing freedom of movement have to say. Very little I suspect.
Supporters had barely got over the embarrassment of Ed and then along comes Corbyn. I'm hopeful that the Libs might offer something. I heard Norman Lamb talking about cannabis this morning. I know it's trivial but from small acorns....
It means "jumped before he was pushed".
I wonder whether anyone in Parliament or the media is going start talking about toilets, as some of the feminists did when men started to discuss depression and suicide on International Men's Day.
It would be better if the LDs rise again though - good to have more viable options, and even though they pushed side the LDs for runner up in many places in the sw, I cannot see thevtories under pressure from labour here, and not sure if UKIP can manage it.
It's non-trivial for the 3-4% of the voters the Lib Dems are trying to hold on to perhaps
I will, its the resignation of no alternative that terrifies me, strengthens my belief that ever closer union is inevitable. Well it is if we vote Remain and I'm genuinely surprised why small c conservatives who favour small govt are shrugging their shoulders.
We'll have Tusk and Junker doing PMQs before long.
"It's hardly a bribe though, is it?"
No, it's the equivalent of the Krays popping round and offering "protection". If you choose not to pay, those little boats will increase in number.
To misquote, it's better to remain fairly quiet and be thought divided than to carpet-bomb the news cycle and prove it.
The deal with Turkey to help it with the refugee crisis and suppress people smuggling seems a good example of what the countries of Europe can do together. Far better to act collectively rather than unilaterally in these things. Perhaps this sort of deal should have been sorted sooner; but it is good to see it happen nontheless.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/thunderer/article4707641.ece
If any of the PB hierarchy are interested I'd be happy to write a header about this and the impact of the referendum on Ukip regardless of the outcome.