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  • First .....again!
  • Off Topic - sorry Mike

    Next Newcastle Manager?

    The Sunday Telegraph has a big splash claiming the job is set to go to ....... David Moyes!
    Best-priced with BWIN at 4.5 (aka 7/2)
    DYOR.
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    edited March 2016
    Delegates as they stand according to Rod's spreadsheet

    Kansas

    Cruz 24
    Trump 10
    Rubio 6

    Maine (more likely to change)

    Cruz 11
    Trump 9
    Rubio 3

    538 targets for today as a whole [4 contests]:

    Trump 69 (on 19 so far)
    Cruz 71 (on 35 so far)
    Rubio 54 (on 9 so far)

    we can see who is going to be way out....

  • rottenborough
    rottenborough Posts: 66,867

    Delegates as they stand according to Rod's spreadsheet

    Kansas

    Cruz 24
    Trump 10
    Rubio 6

    Maine (more likely to change)

    Cruz 11
    Trump 9
    Rubio 3

    538 targets for today as a whole [4 contests]:

    Trump 69 (on 19 so far)
    Cruz 71 (on 35 so far)
    Rubio 54 (on 9 so far)

    we can see who is going to be way out....

    Bleak for Rubio. In Kansas alone he needed 13, according to 5-30-8. So far zero.
  • A fortnight ago Cruz was 70/1 to be the nominee on Betfair.

    I like these kind of markets.
  • rottenborough
    rottenborough Posts: 66,867
    Rubio drifted out to 9 on BF since I last looked.
  • FrancisUrquhart
    FrancisUrquhart Posts: 85,734
    edited March 2016
    Would-be Labour mayor's top adviser is suspended after his homophobic, racist and sexist tweets are exposed

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3478501/Would-Labour-mayor-s-adviser-suspended-homophobic-racist-sexist-tweets-exposed.html

    Seems Sadiq Khan hired a lovely young chap...racist, homophobic, sexist, he has tw@ttered the lot.
  • A question for those who know about these things - would John Kasich be likely to benefit were Marco Rubio to withdraw from the GOP contest in the near future?
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    edited March 2016

    Rubio drifted out to 9 on BF since I last looked.

    In Florida, Trump's key mission will now be to ensure Cruz doesn't take it, even if that means soft-pedalling Rubio - and focussing his efforts elsewhere

  • nigel4england
    nigel4england Posts: 4,800

    Off Topic - sorry Mike

    Next Newcastle Manager?

    The Sunday Telegraph has a big splash claiming the job is set to go to ....... David Moyes!
    Best-priced with BWIN at 4.5 (aka 7/2)
    DYOR.

    Why is Pearson never mentioned, he would be my choice.
  • foxinsoxuk
    foxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    Off Topic - sorry Mike

    Next Newcastle Manager?

    The Sunday Telegraph has a big splash claiming the job is set to go to ....... David Moyes!
    Best-priced with BWIN at 4.5 (aka 7/2)
    DYOR.

    Nigel Pearson. Great in a relegation battle, and tood at promotion too. Also comes from NE (Middlesborough).
  • Pong
    Pong Posts: 4,693
    edited March 2016

    A question for those who know about these things - would John Kasich be likely to benefit were Marco Rubio to withdraw from the GOP contest in the near future?

    Yes.

    Very Yes.

    Disclaimer; I don't claim to know about these things. I'm just an ignorant punter. ;)
  • Richard_Nabavi
    Richard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    Given that Kansas is a caucus, there was always a high chance of Trump underperforming considerably.
  • Off Topic - sorry Mike

    Next Newcastle Manager?

    The Sunday Telegraph has a big splash claiming the job is set to go to ....... David Moyes!
    Best-priced with BWIN at 4.5 (aka 7/2)
    DYOR.

    Who
  • MonikerDiCanio
    MonikerDiCanio Posts: 5,792

    A question for those who know about these things - would John Kasich be likely to benefit were Marco Rubio to withdraw from the GOP contest in the near future?

    Yes. Cruz is viewed with almost as much suspicion by the Rep Establishment as Trump is.
  • EPG
    EPG Posts: 6,739
    One of the more sensational nights in political betting I can recall.
  • peter_from_putney
    peter_from_putney Posts: 6,956
    edited March 2016

    Off Topic - sorry Mike

    Next Newcastle Manager?

    The Sunday Telegraph has a big splash claiming the job is set to go to ....... David Moyes!
    Best-priced with BWIN at 4.5 (aka 7/2)
    DYOR.

    Nigel Pearson. Great in a relegation battle, and tood at promotion too. Also comes from NE (Middlesborough).
    Quite agree, but I heard about this on talkSPORT a few minutes ago, when the media guy was going very strong on it - with the Sunday Telegraph claiming it as an "exclusive", whatever that means!
    Btw BWIN have Pearson as their favourite.
  • Sunil_Prasannan
    Sunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,080
    West Ham surge :)
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    EPG said:

    One of the more sensational nights in political betting I can recall.

    Could yet be...
  • EPG said:

    One of the more sensational nights in political betting I can recall.

    The the 6th of October 2007 is another contender for that accolade.
  • foxinsoxuk
    foxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    Off Topic - sorry Mike

    Next Newcastle Manager?

    The Sunday Telegraph has a big splash claiming the job is set to go to ....... David Moyes!
    Best-priced with BWIN at 4.5 (aka 7/2)
    DYOR.

    Why is Pearson never mentioned, he would be my choice.
    I recall that he was deputy manager there some years ago, and took charge as temporary manager for two occasions. Great bloke.
  • peter_from_putney
    peter_from_putney Posts: 6,956
    edited March 2016

    Off Topic - sorry Mike

    Next Newcastle Manager?

    The Sunday Telegraph has a big splash claiming the job is set to go to ....... David Moyes!
    Best-priced with BWIN at 4.5 (aka 7/2)
    DYOR.

    Why is Pearson never mentioned, he would be my choice.
    I recall that he was deputy manager there some years ago, and took charge as temporary manager for two occasions. Great bloke.
    Yep, shame about the son! You have to wonder what might have been had he stayed at Leicester - the father that is, not the son.
  • EPG
    EPG Posts: 6,739

    EPG said:

    One of the more sensational nights in political betting I can recall.

    The the 6th of October 2007 is another contender for that accolade.
    And that is almost a decade ago.
  • foxinsoxuk
    foxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    Off Topic - sorry Mike

    Next Newcastle Manager?

    The Sunday Telegraph has a big splash claiming the job is set to go to ....... David Moyes!
    Best-priced with BWIN at 4.5 (aka 7/2)
    DYOR.

    Why is Pearson never mentioned, he would be my choice.
    I recall that he was deputy manager there some years ago, and took charge as temporary manager for two occasions. Great bloke.
    Yep, shame about the son!
    The racist orgy in Thailand was why Pearson left and Ranieri took over. It turned out to be very fortunate indeed.
  • Pong
    Pong Posts: 4,693
    Soit's looking like cruz gets Kansas and maine.

    and Kentucky looks good for him.

    3/4?
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    Rubio drops 10% in Maine
  • blackburn63
    blackburn63 Posts: 4,492

    Off Topic - sorry Mike

    Next Newcastle Manager?

    The Sunday Telegraph has a big splash claiming the job is set to go to ....... David Moyes!
    Best-priced with BWIN at 4.5 (aka 7/2)
    DYOR.

    Why is Pearson never mentioned, he would be my choice.
    I recall that he was deputy manager there some years ago, and took charge as temporary manager for two occasions. Great bloke.
    Yep, shame about the son!
    The racist orgy in Thailand was why Pearson left and Ranieri took over. It turned out to be very fortunate indeed.
    Eh?
  • EPG
    EPG Posts: 6,739
    So, upcoming for Republicans this week are Puerto Rico, presumed Rubio but surely non-Trump; Hawaii and Idaho, caucuses which don't favour Trump, more so Hawaii; Mississippi which must by now be competitively Trump v Cruz; and Michigan in which Kasich looks like he will win or come 4th or anything in between. Then DC - a few thousand rock-ribbed establishment Republicans. So, I am negative outlook on Trump sentiment through next weekend, so perhaps buy Cruz now and top up on Trump later?
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    edited March 2016
    Current delegate est. (from 538 target; they do not sum!)

    Maine

    Cruz 11 (+2)
    Trump 8 (-1)
    Kasich 4 (N/A)
    Rubio 0 (-10)

    Kansas

    Cruz 24 (+4)
    Trump 10 (-6)
    Rubio 6 (-7)
    Kasich 0 (N/A)

  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455

    Off Topic - sorry Mike

    Next Newcastle Manager?

    The Sunday Telegraph has a big splash claiming the job is set to go to ....... David Moyes!
    Best-priced with BWIN at 4.5 (aka 7/2)
    DYOR.

    Why is Pearson never mentioned, he would be my choice.
    I recall that he was deputy manager there some years ago, and took charge as temporary manager for two occasions. Great bloke.
    Yep, shame about the son!
    The racist orgy in Thailand was why Pearson left and Ranieri took over. It turned out to be very fortunate indeed.
    Eh?
    http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jun/17/leicester-sack-three-players-racist-thai-orgy
  • rottenborough
    rottenborough Posts: 66,867
    Pong said:

    Soit's looking like cruz gets Kansas and maine.

    and Kentucky looks good for him.

    3/4?

    Maine - only one precinct so far?
  • foxinsoxuk
    foxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    Off Topic - sorry Mike

    Next Newcastle Manager?

    The Sunday Telegraph has a big splash claiming the job is set to go to ....... David Moyes!
    Best-priced with BWIN at 4.5 (aka 7/2)
    DYOR.

    Why is Pearson never mentioned, he would be my choice.
    I recall that he was deputy manager there some years ago, and took charge as temporary manager for two occasions. Great bloke.
    Yep, shame about the son!
    The racist orgy in Thailand was why Pearson left and Ranieri took over. It turned out to be very fortunate indeed.
    Eh?
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/leicester-city-boss-sacked-after-6003978

    Life in Leicester is not as dull as some may imagine!
  • peter_from_putney
    peter_from_putney Posts: 6,956
    edited March 2016
    On Topic Now:

    Best bookies' odds (as opposed to Betfair) for the GOP nomination:

    Trump ....... 1.67 Ladbrokes
    Cruz .......... 6.5 Paddy Power
    Rubio ........ 8.0 Various
    Kasich ........17.0 Various
  • Pong
    Pong Posts: 4,693
    EPG said:

    So, upcoming for Republicans this week are Puerto Rico, presumed Rubio but surely non-Trump; Hawaii and Idaho, caucuses which don't favour Trump, more so Hawaii; Mississippi which must by now be competitively Trump v Cruz; and Michigan in which Kasich looks like he will win or come 4th or anything in between. Then DC - a few thousand rock-ribbed establishment Republicans. So, I am negative outlook on Trump sentiment through next weekend, so perhaps buy Cruz now and top up on Trump later?

    The narrative certainly favours cruz.
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455

    Pong said:

    Soit's looking like cruz gets Kansas and maine.

    and Kentucky looks good for him.

    3/4?

    Maine - only one precinct so far?
    see here: http://www.decisiondeskhq.com/results/2016/primary/gop/president/maine/
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    Pong said:

    EPG said:

    So, upcoming for Republicans this week are Puerto Rico, presumed Rubio but surely non-Trump; Hawaii and Idaho, caucuses which don't favour Trump, more so Hawaii; Mississippi which must by now be competitively Trump v Cruz; and Michigan in which Kasich looks like he will win or come 4th or anything in between. Then DC - a few thousand rock-ribbed establishment Republicans. So, I am negative outlook on Trump sentiment through next weekend, so perhaps buy Cruz now and top up on Trump later?

    The narrative certainly favours cruz.
    As Nate Silver said, the loser so far this contest has been "momentum" (and I don't think he meant the Corbynista variety)
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    edited March 2016
    So I'm back.

    I was right again wasn't I ?
  • blackburn63
    blackburn63 Posts: 4,492
    Having read this evening's posts 1 or 2 are upset by name calling, come on this is the internet, of course people react differently than they would in "real life", whatever that may be. It's the contempt I find uncomfortable, as a long term conservative voter I always struggled with the "right to rule" ethos.

    I've been called all sorts of names on here, meh, if in the unlikely event I attended a pb drink up I know nobody would call me those names. I'd be very happy to continue with my long standing disdain for Cameron, I knew plenty would twig in the end.
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    Speedy said:

    So I'm back.

    I was right again wasn't I ?

    You should have quoted me for odds in Maine... but Trump has closed to 9% off.
  • blackburn63
    blackburn63 Posts: 4,492

    Off Topic - sorry Mike

    Next Newcastle Manager?

    The Sunday Telegraph has a big splash claiming the job is set to go to ....... David Moyes!
    Best-priced with BWIN at 4.5 (aka 7/2)
    DYOR.

    Why is Pearson never mentioned, he would be my choice.
    I recall that he was deputy manager there some years ago, and took charge as temporary manager for two occasions. Great bloke.
    Yep, shame about the son!
    The racist orgy in Thailand was why Pearson left and Ranieri took over. It turned out to be very fortunate indeed.
    Eh?
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/leicester-city-boss-sacked-after-6003978

    Life in Leicester is not as dull as some may imagine!
    Oh right, my initial reading was that a racist orgy was fortunate. Pearson used to manage Carlisle Utd
  • Tissue_Price
    Tissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    I think Paul Ryan is the bet on today's results.
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100

    I think Paul Ryan is the bet on today's results.

    Winning party: Democrats.
  • NickPalmer
    NickPalmer Posts: 21,724
    First Kansas results show a near tie Trump-Cruz, only 1% so far though.
  • foxinsoxuk
    foxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    Having read this evening's posts 1 or 2 are upset by name calling, come on this is the internet, of course people react differently than they would in "real life", whatever that may be. It's the contempt I find uncomfortable, as a long term conservative voter I always struggled with the "right to rule" ethos.

    I've been called all sorts of names on here, meh, if in the unlikely event I attended a pb drink up I know nobody would call me those names. I'd be very happy to continue with my long standing disdain for Cameron, I knew plenty would twig in the end.

    Having been to a PB drinkies does alter things a bit. It is hard to be quite so rude to someone that you have chatted to over a pint.
  • rottenborough
    rottenborough Posts: 66,867

    Pong said:

    Soit's looking like cruz gets Kansas and maine.

    and Kentucky looks good for him.

    3/4?

    Maine - only one precinct so far?
    see here: http://www.decisiondeskhq.com/results/2016/primary/gop/president/maine/
    Thanks, but how come this website has results way ahead of Politico or NY Times?
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455

    First Kansas results show a near tie Trump-Cruz, only 1% so far though.

    Kentucky, you mean :)
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455

    Pong said:

    Soit's looking like cruz gets Kansas and maine.

    and Kentucky looks good for him.

    3/4?

    Maine - only one precinct so far?
    see here: http://www.decisiondeskhq.com/results/2016/primary/gop/president/maine/
    Thanks, but how come this website has results way ahead of Politico or NY Times?
    Not sure. Aside from caching issues, has proven accurate so far though
  • Tissue_Price
    Tissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    Speedy said:

    I think Paul Ryan is the bet on today's results.

    Winning party: Democrats.
    Well, maybe. But 200/1 is a bit sexier than 1/2.
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737

    First Kansas results show a near tie Trump-Cruz, only 1% so far though.

    Think you mean Kentucky!
  • rottenborough
    rottenborough Posts: 66,867

    First Kansas results show a near tie Trump-Cruz, only 1% so far though.

    Eh? I've got NY Times saying: 50 to 24 (Trump, Cruz).
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    Kentucky 3% in

    Trump 38.9%
    Cruz 36.3%
    Rubio 13.9%
    Kasich 9.7%

    http://edition.cnn.com/election/primaries/states/ky/
  • stjohn
    stjohn Posts: 1,910
    edited March 2016
    Well I recently backed Trump for POTUS at 4.3 - not wanting to completely miss the Trump
    bandwagon - just as the band started to leave the wagon! He is now 6.4-6.6.

    Also, a while ago I backed Cruz for the GOP nomination at 5.0 - and had pretty much written this bet off. Cruz is now into 5.6-5.7 for the nomination. So this bet is unexpectedly back in play.

    It's all swings and roundabouts. Not sure overall whether I'm better off or not. I think I would prefer to be back on the ground!

  • rottenborough
    rottenborough Posts: 66,867
    Speedy said:

    I think Paul Ryan is the bet on today's results.

    Winning party: Democrats.
    Yep, I'm sticking to Clinton from now on, but a couple of quid on Ryan and a brokered convention is not too crazy.
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    edited March 2016

    Pong said:

    Soit's looking like cruz gets Kansas and maine.

    and Kentucky looks good for him.

    3/4?

    Maine - only one precinct so far?
    see here: http://www.decisiondeskhq.com/results/2016/primary/gop/president/maine/
    Thanks, but how come this website has results way ahead of Politico or NY Times?
    They get them at the source on the count.
    They don't wait for the official ones from AP.
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    Speedy said:

    So I'm back.

    I was right again wasn't I ?

    On Kansas yes and Maine probably but not if Kentucky is anything to go by and maybe not when Louisiana gets in either
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    Current delegate est. (from 538 target; they do not sum!)

    Maine

    Cruz 11 (+2)
    Trump 8 (-1)
    Kasich 4 (N/A)
    Rubio 0 (-10)

    Kansas

    Cruz 24 (+4)
    Trump 10 (-6)
    Rubio 6 (-7)
    Kasich 0 (N/A)

    Kentucky

    Trump 17 (-4)
    Cruz 16 (-4)
    Rubio 6 (-11)
    Kasich 4 (N/A)




  • Here's The Sunday Telegraph's story about David Moyes being lined up to take over at Newcastle Utd:
    http://tinyurl.com/je5u5v5
  • rottenborough
    rottenborough Posts: 66,867
    HYUFD said:

    Kentucky 3% in

    Trump 38.9%
    Cruz 36.3%
    Rubio 13.9%
    Kasich 9.7%

    http://edition.cnn.com/election/primaries/states/ky/

    "Kentucky is unlikely to alter the delegate math much; all its delegates are awarded proportionally with just a 5 percent threshold" - 5-30-8
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813

    Speedy said:

    I think Paul Ryan is the bet on today's results.

    Winning party: Democrats.
    Yep, I'm sticking to Clinton from now on, but a couple of quid on Ryan and a brokered convention is not too crazy.
    No point getting Clinton into positive territory yet.
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100

    Speedy said:

    I think Paul Ryan is the bet on today's results.

    Winning party: Democrats.
    Yep, I'm sticking to Clinton from now on, but a couple of quid on Ryan and a brokered convention is not too crazy.
    No seriously, Winning party: Democrats.

    Look at the options:

    1. Convention fight, Winner: Democrats
    2. Trump, Winner: Democrats
    3. Cruz, Winner: Democrats

    And a landslide win for Democrats, even if they pick Ryan or person X at the convention, the Republican party looks like an unrepearable mess, it reminds me of Syria.

    Yeap that's the correct analogy:
    The GOP is like the Syrian civil war.

    I say Winner: Democrats because there is still a minor risk that Hillary doesn't make it for any reason.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813

    Speedy said:

    I think Paul Ryan is the bet on today's results.

    Winning party: Democrats.
    Well, maybe. But 200/1 is a bit sexier than 1/2.
    Why Ryan and not Romney ?

    Romney weilded the knife, so can not stand ?

    Also do you think Rubio's goose is cooked ?
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924

    HYUFD said:

    Kentucky 3% in

    Trump 38.9%
    Cruz 36.3%
    Rubio 13.9%
    Kasich 9.7%

    http://edition.cnn.com/election/primaries/states/ky/

    "Kentucky is unlikely to alter the delegate math much; all its delegates are awarded proportionally with just a 5 percent threshold" - 5-30-8
    No, but a win there and Louisiana to make it 2 states a piece tonight for Cruz and Trump would help settle any nerves at Trump Towers
  • Sunil_Prasannan
    Sunil_Prasannan Posts: 55,080
    edited March 2016
    Saw this on Facebook:

    image
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    edited March 2016
    Pulpstar said:

    Speedy said:

    I think Paul Ryan is the bet on today's results.

    Winning party: Democrats.
    Well, maybe. But 200/1 is a bit sexier than 1/2.
    Why Ryan and not Romney ?

    Romney weilded the knife, so can not stand ?

    Also do you think Rubio's goose is cooked ?
    It could be anyone in the convention, but whoever it is the only winner are the Democrats.
    That's the only sure bet.
  • stjohn
    stjohn Posts: 1,910
    edited March 2016

    Here's The Sunday Telegraph's story about David Moyes being lined up to take over at Newcastle Utd:
    http://tinyurl.com/je5u5v5

    If true and "McClaren is next manager out" then it's "hats off" for another prescient prediction at odds of 8/1 by the Sage of PB, (Peter from Putney).
  • rottenborough
    rottenborough Posts: 66,867
    Speedy said:

    Speedy said:

    I think Paul Ryan is the bet on today's results.

    Winning party: Democrats.
    Yep, I'm sticking to Clinton from now on, but a couple of quid on Ryan and a brokered convention is not too crazy.
    No seriously, Winning party: Democrats.

    Look at the options:

    1. Convention fight, Winner: Democrats
    2. Trump, Winner: Democrats
    3. Cruz, Winner: Democrats

    And a landslide win for Democrats, even if they pick Ryan or person X at the convention, the Republican party looks like an unrepearable mess, it reminds me of Syria.

    Yeap that's the correct analogy:
    The GOP is like the Syrian civil war.

    I say Winner: Democrats because there is still a minor risk that Hillary doesn't make it for any reason.
    Fair point. And in fact there is barely any difference between Demo win and Hillary win on BF.
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    Pulpstar said:

    Speedy said:

    I think Paul Ryan is the bet on today's results.

    Winning party: Democrats.
    Well, maybe. But 200/1 is a bit sexier than 1/2.
    Why Ryan and not Romney ?

    Romney weilded the knife, so can not stand ?

    Also do you think Rubio's goose is cooked ?
    Not even Florida can save Rubio now (brokered convention aside)
  • rottenborough
    rottenborough Posts: 66,867
    Pulpstar said:

    Speedy said:

    I think Paul Ryan is the bet on today's results.

    Winning party: Democrats.
    Well, maybe. But 200/1 is a bit sexier than 1/2.
    Why Ryan and not Romney ?

    Romney weilded the knife, so can not stand ?

    Also do you think Rubio's goose is cooked ?
    I had a moment earlier in the day when I though a bet on Romney was not totally mad, but he's lost twice, so maybe he is more kingmaker these days?
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    Speedy said:

    Speedy said:

    I think Paul Ryan is the bet on today's results.

    Winning party: Democrats.
    Yep, I'm sticking to Clinton from now on, but a couple of quid on Ryan and a brokered convention is not too crazy.
    No seriously, Winning party: Democrats.

    Look at the options:

    1. Convention fight, Winner: Democrats
    2. Trump, Winner: Democrats
    3. Cruz, Winner: Democrats

    And a landslide win for Democrats, even if they pick Ryan or person X at the convention, the Republican party looks like an unrepearable mess, it reminds me of Syria.

    Yeap that's the correct analogy:
    The GOP is like the Syrian civil war.

    I say Winner: Democrats because there is still a minor risk that Hillary doesn't make it for any reason.
    It may well be a Democrat but not by a landslide
  • NickPalmer
    NickPalmer Posts: 21,724

    First Kansas results show a near tie Trump-Cruz, only 1% so far though.

    Eh? I've got NY Times saying: 50 to 24 (Trump, Cruz).
    Sorry, meant Kentucky
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    edited March 2016
    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    So I'm back.

    I was right again wasn't I ?

    On Kansas yes and Maine probably but not if Kentucky is anything to go by and maybe not when Louisiana gets in either
    I will be certain who wins Kentucky when more counties come in, including Franklin.
    Though Trump has the early lead.

    I think the margin in Maine for Cruz may go down.
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455

    First Kansas results show a near tie Trump-Cruz, only 1% so far though.

    Eh? I've got NY Times saying: 50 to 24 (Trump, Cruz).
    Sorry, meant Kentucky
    Now Trump 42.5% Cruz 33.5%, but that swing was largely a single result. Could still swing to a tight race
  • MTimT
    MTimT Posts: 7,034
    Speedy said:

    Pong said:

    Soit's looking like cruz gets Kansas and maine.

    and Kentucky looks good for him.

    3/4?

    Maine - only one precinct so far?
    see here: http://www.decisiondeskhq.com/results/2016/primary/gop/president/maine/
    Thanks, but how come this website has results way ahead of Politico or NY Times?
    They get them at the source on the count.
    They don't wait for the official ones from AP.
    They are at odds with RCP's counts. Check Kansas 97% reporting - a lot of difference in the two sets of figures.
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    4% in Kentucky

    Trump 42.5%
    Cruz 33.5%
    Rubio 12.9%
    Kasich 9.6%
    http://edition.cnn.com/election/primaries/states/ky/Rep
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    edited March 2016
    We have forgotten the Democratic contests tonight.

    Sanders is going to have a good night.
    He will win Kansas, Nebraska.
    And Maine tomorrow.
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    MTimT said:

    Speedy said:

    Pong said:

    Soit's looking like cruz gets Kansas and maine.

    and Kentucky looks good for him.

    3/4?

    Maine - only one precinct so far?
    see here: http://www.decisiondeskhq.com/results/2016/primary/gop/president/maine/
    Thanks, but how come this website has results way ahead of Politico or NY Times?
    They get them at the source on the count.
    They don't wait for the official ones from AP.
    They are at odds with RCP's counts. Check Kansas 97% reporting - a lot of difference in the two sets of figures.
    If you look at the numbers DDHQ are behind.
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    Speedy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    So I'm back.

    I was right again wasn't I ?

    On Kansas yes and Maine probably but not if Kentucky is anything to go by and maybe not when Louisiana gets in either
    I will be certain who wins Kentucky when more counties come in, including Franklin.
    Though Trump has the early lead.

    I think the margin in Maine for Cruz may go down.
    Yes Trump is doing better as the later results come in
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Speedy said:

    We have forgotten the Democratic contests tonight.

    Sanders is going to have a good night.
    He will win Kansas, Nebraska.
    And Maine tomorrow.

    And get tonked in Louisiana. He'll end up further behind tonight.
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Loads of panic tonight, and plenty of betting opportunities.

    Bottom line: Cruz might have shaved the grand total of 10 delegates off of Trump's lead...
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    So I'm back.

    I was right again wasn't I ?

    On Kansas yes and Maine probably but not if Kentucky is anything to go by and maybe not when Louisiana gets in either
    I will be certain who wins Kentucky when more counties come in, including Franklin.
    Though Trump has the early lead.

    I think the margin in Maine for Cruz may go down.
    Yes Trump is doing better as the later results come in
    Not really enough, I'd say a lead of ~8%
  • Tissue_Price
    Tissue_Price Posts: 9,039

    Pulpstar said:

    Speedy said:

    I think Paul Ryan is the bet on today's results.

    Winning party: Democrats.
    Well, maybe. But 200/1 is a bit sexier than 1/2.
    Why Ryan and not Romney ?

    Romney weilded the knife, so can not stand ?

    Also do you think Rubio's goose is cooked ?
    I had a moment earlier in the day when I though a bet on Romney was not totally mad, but he's lost twice, so maybe he is more kingmaker these days?
    Romney's already lost - a fresher face would be sensible. I'd rather take Ryan at the same price.

    Rubio's goose is in a Floridian oven.
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,609
    RodCrosby said:

    Loads of panic tonight, and plenty of betting opportunities.

    Bottom line: Cruz might have shaved the grand total of 10 delegates off of Trump's lead...

    Tipping point? :p
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    MTimT said:

    Speedy said:

    Pong said:

    Soit's looking like cruz gets Kansas and maine.

    and Kentucky looks good for him.

    3/4?

    Maine - only one precinct so far?
    see here: http://www.decisiondeskhq.com/results/2016/primary/gop/president/maine/
    Thanks, but how come this website has results way ahead of Politico or NY Times?
    They get them at the source on the count.
    They don't wait for the official ones from AP.
    They are at odds with RCP's counts. Check Kansas 97% reporting - a lot of difference in the two sets of figures.
    I don't doubt that the official results are more accurate.
    Speed comes with declining accuracy.
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    RobD said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Loads of panic tonight, and plenty of betting opportunities.

    Bottom line: Cruz might have shaved the grand total of 10 delegates off of Trump's lead...

    Tipping point? :p
    Incidentally Rod your spreadsheet is allocating 24 delegates in Maine atm (or the one I'm using is, anyway)
  • Tissue_Price
    Tissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    If this resolves to Biden v Ryan the drinks are on me at the next PB meet.
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    Speedy said:

    MTimT said:

    Speedy said:

    Pong said:

    Soit's looking like cruz gets Kansas and maine.

    and Kentucky looks good for him.

    3/4?

    Maine - only one precinct so far?
    see here: http://www.decisiondeskhq.com/results/2016/primary/gop/president/maine/
    Thanks, but how come this website has results way ahead of Politico or NY Times?
    They get them at the source on the count.
    They don't wait for the official ones from AP.
    They are at odds with RCP's counts. Check Kansas 97% reporting - a lot of difference in the two sets of figures.
    I don't doubt that the official results are more accurate.
    Speed comes with declining accuracy.
    DDHQ are just behind, that's all
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    So I'm back.

    I was right again wasn't I ?

    On Kansas yes and Maine probably but not if Kentucky is anything to go by and maybe not when Louisiana gets in either
    I will be certain who wins Kentucky when more counties come in, including Franklin.
    Though Trump has the early lead.

    I think the margin in Maine for Cruz may go down.
    Yes Trump is doing better as the later results come in
    Not really enough, I'd say a lead of ~8%
    Even if he wins Kentucky and Louisiana by just 1 vote that is a huge change in the narrative from a Cruz clean sweep to a 50-50 split of the states tonight
  • RobD
    RobD Posts: 60,609
    Speedy said:


    I don't doubt that the official results are more accurate.
    Speed comes with declining accuracy.

    Clearly it doesn't apply to posters called Speedy :p
  • rottenborough
    rottenborough Posts: 66,867

    First Kansas results show a near tie Trump-Cruz, only 1% so far though.

    Eh? I've got NY Times saying: 50 to 24 (Trump, Cruz).
    Sorry, meant Kentucky
    KY picked the last three GOP nominees I think.
  • TheWhiteRabbit
    TheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    So I'm back.

    I was right again wasn't I ?

    On Kansas yes and Maine probably but not if Kentucky is anything to go by and maybe not when Louisiana gets in either
    I will be certain who wins Kentucky when more counties come in, including Franklin.
    Though Trump has the early lead.

    I think the margin in Maine for Cruz may go down.
    Yes Trump is doing better as the later results come in
    Not really enough, I'd say a lead of ~8%
    Even if he wins Kentucky and Louisiana by just 1 vote that is a huge change in the narrative from a Cruz clean sweep to a 50-50 split of the states tonight
    I agree completely. (I don't really like Trump but I despise Cruz.)
  • NickPalmer
    NickPalmer Posts: 21,724
    When are we expecting first LA results?
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813

    If this resolves to Biden v Ryan the drinks are on me at the next PB meet.

    You'd have to favour Biden I'd have thought. Seeing as the Trump voters won't come out for him, and Biden's votes will be motivated by the FBI.
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    RobD said:

    Speedy said:


    I don't doubt that the official results are more accurate.
    Speed comes with declining accuracy.

    Clearly it doesn't apply to posters called Speedy :p
    So far it does not (knock wood).
  • Speedy
    Speedy Posts: 12,100
    edited March 2016

    When are we expecting first LA results?

    They close at 1 AM, so first results probably at 1:30AM.
    I hope I haven't mixed Eastern Time with Central Time and GMT.
  • Pulpstar
    Pulpstar Posts: 79,813
    Laying into the POTUS market feels so weird.
  • RodCrosby
    RodCrosby Posts: 7,737

    RobD said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Loads of panic tonight, and plenty of betting opportunities.

    Bottom line: Cruz might have shaved the grand total of 10 delegates off of Trump's lead...

    Tipping point? :p
    Incidentally Rod your spreadsheet is allocating 24 delegates in Maine atm (or the one I'm using is, anyway)
    Rounding. I never claimed it was perfect!
  • rottenborough
    rottenborough Posts: 66,867

    Pulpstar said:

    Speedy said:

    I think Paul Ryan is the bet on today's results.

    Winning party: Democrats.
    Well, maybe. But 200/1 is a bit sexier than 1/2.
    Why Ryan and not Romney ?

    Romney weilded the knife, so can not stand ?

    Also do you think Rubio's goose is cooked ?
    I had a moment earlier in the day when I though a bet on Romney was not totally mad, but he's lost twice, so maybe he is more kingmaker these days?
    Romney's already lost - a fresher face would be sensible. I'd rather take Ryan at the same price.

    Rubio's goose is in a Floridian oven.
    Trouble is that there are 2 GOP strategies floating around. 1) All the non-trump candidates stay in and try and force a contested convention by denying Trump a majority, 2) Non-trump votes focus on one candidate, the others dropping out.

    Guess which one the remaining non-trump candidates believe in?
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924

    HYUFD said:

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    HYUFD said:

    Speedy said:

    So I'm back.

    I was right again wasn't I ?

    On Kansas yes and Maine probably but not if Kentucky is anything to go by and maybe not when Louisiana gets in either
    I will be certain who wins Kentucky when more counties come in, including Franklin.
    Though Trump has the early lead.

    I think the margin in Maine for Cruz may go down.
    Yes Trump is doing better as the later results come in
    Not really enough, I'd say a lead of ~8%
    Even if he wins Kentucky and Louisiana by just 1 vote that is a huge change in the narrative from a Cruz clean sweep to a 50-50 split of the states tonight
    I agree completely. (I don't really like Trump but I despise Cruz.)
    Indeed but at looks like those two will be the final pair standing in two weeks time, with Trump likely wrapping it up by the end of April
  • HYUFD
    HYUFD Posts: 128,924
    Pulpstar said:

    If this resolves to Biden v Ryan the drinks are on me at the next PB meet.

    You'd have to favour Biden I'd have thought. Seeing as the Trump voters won't come out for him, and Biden's votes will be motivated by the FBI.
    It will be neither, unless Clinton is found guilty of treason it will be Clinton v Trump
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